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The following listen on-demand podcasts matched your search results for: loneliness

In Touch

Charles Stanley

April 15, 2024

Courage in the Lonely Hour

Gain knowledge on how to overcome periods of loneliness [... more]

Hope for the Caregiver

Peter Rosenberger

March 15, 2024

Caregivers Often Decide For The Whole Unit Not Just One Person

As caregivers we often must make decisions that benefit the whole unit - not Just one person We get into the trap as caregivers where we're thinking of someone almost to the exclusion of everyone else I understand why - because that person has extreme needs But as a caregiver YOU are meeting many of those extreme needs What happens if you don't consider the person meeting the extreme needs You must think of the whole unit SHOW TRANSCRIPT May Contain Typos If you feel that you are operating out of guilt or fear or any of those things what [... more]

A New Beginning

Greg Laurie

March 13, 2024

Follow Me | Sharing the Gospel with Others

We all begin following the Lord at different times and from different backgrounds But we're all united in finding forgiveness for our sins and sharing a calling to bring otherr into a saving relationship with God Today on A NEW BEGINNING Pastor Greg Laurie helps us look at the way Jesus bid His disciples to come follow me We'll examine that calling what it costs and what it offers and we'll consider the blessing of being used by God to accomplish His Kingdom business Listen on harvest org --- Learn more and subscribe to Harvest updates at harvest org A [... more]

Truth for Life

Alistair Begg

January 16, 2024

All the Lonely People

At some point most of us experience loneliness whether short-lived or chronic So how should the church respond to the cries of the lonely Listen to Truth For Life as Alistair Begg examines Jesus' response to a blind hopeless beggar named Bartimaeus ----------------------------------------- Click here and look for FROM THE SERMON to stream or read the full message This program is part of the series 'Dangers Toils and Snares' Learn more about our current resource request your copy with a donation of any amount Helpful Resources - Learn about God's salvation plan - Read our most recent articles - Subscribe [... more]

Living on the Edge

Chip Ingram

January 04, 2024

Balancing Life's Demands - How To Keep First Things First, Part 2

Setting priorities putting first things first is important The question is how do you keep those priorities in place Chip explores the essential elements that must be in place in order for you to be able to keep your priorities in line over the long haul [... more]

Running to Win

Erwin Lutzer

January 03, 2024

The Gift Of Belonging (Part 1) – 1 of 2

Loneliness is a terrible companion We all want to belong in fact we were created by God to belong In this message Pastor Lutzer considers three figures of speech Paul uses to show the unity of God's people This is good news for a world that is divided in so many ways This month's special offer is available for a donation of any amount Get yours at rtwoffer com or call us at - - - [... more]

Hope for the Caregiver

Peter Rosenberger

December 29, 2023

Waffles and Well-Being

Waffles and Well-Being From extended hospital stays surrounded by faceless people in masks to longer nights where loneliness and fear serve as companions caregivers remain prone to feeling adrift and disconnected Longing for recognizable landmarks that signal safe harbor caregivers face the challenge of re-anchoring themselves often in a storm But it doesn't have to be complicated During my wife's surgeries in Denver I stepped into a Waffle House near the hospital I love Waffle House I grew up going to Waffle House but we now live in Montana and there's no Waffle House in the whole state In Denver [... more]

Summit Life

J.D. Greear

December 21, 2023

The Seeker’s Chapter

Have you ever wondered about the meaning behind some of your favorite Christmas songs Well Pastor J D takes us behind the scenes of the holiday favorite Hark the Herald Angels Sing You'll never hear it the same way again It's part of our series called Carols [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

December 18, 2023

How to Overcome Loneliness: Brant Hansen

How can we overcome loneliness Brant Hansen shares practical ways to finding peace in Jesus in this disconnnected world Tune in to learn how to stand firm and the importance of community and meaning Show Notes and Resources Connect with Brant Hansen and catch more of their thoughts at branthansen com Find him on social media on Insta Twitter Facebook and YouTube And grab Brant Hansen's book Blessed Are the Misfits Great News for Believers Who Are Introverts Spiritual Strugglers Or Just Feel Like They're Missing Something Double your impact by Dec Give families the gift of togetherness donate and [... more]

Our Daily Bread Ministries

Various Hosts

December 16, 2023

Christmas Dilemma

David and Angie had felt called to move overseas and the fruitful ministry that followed seemed to confirm it But there was one downside to their move David rsquo s elderly parents would now spend Christmases alone David and Angie tried to mitigate his parents rsquo Christmas Day loneliness by posting gifts early and calling on Christmas morning But what his parents really wanted was them With David rsquo s income only permitting an occasional trip home what else could they do David needed wisdom Proverbs is a crash course in wisdom-seeking showing us how to receive it by taking [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

November 08, 2023

4 Strategies for Authentic Manhood: Jeff Kemp

Former NFL Seahawks quarterback Jeff Kemp offers four solid strategies toward a powerful humble and fearless biblical manhood that goes the distance Build a brotherhood and grab a copy of Jeff Kemp's Level Five Friendship Playbook MenHuddle com And listen in on Jeff's Podcast Every Man Ministries And grab his book Receive The Way of Jesus for Men or receive it free with your donation Tune into more episodes by Jeff Kemp on FamilyLife Today Check out all of JP's podcasts on the FamilyLife Podcast Network Find resources from this podcast at shop familylife com See resources from our past [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

October 26, 2023

How to Be Single and Content: Sherri Lynn

Sherri Lynn cohost of the Brant Hansen show believes marriage isn't the only solution to loneliness She gets real about the road to happy singleness and offers wise ways to be single and content Show Notes and Resources Connect with Sherri Lynn on her podcast Brant and Sherri Oddcast Check out this article Sherri wrote on The Foundations We Build Our Lives on With Sherri Lynn Check out more of Sherri's podcast on the FamilyLife Podcast Network Find resources from this podcast at shop familylife com See resources from our past podcasts Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's [... more]

Growing in Grace

Doug Agnew

October 16, 2023

Walk Sacrificially in Love

Join us as we worship our Triune God- For more information about Grace Church please visit www graceharrisburg org [... more]

What's Right What's Left

Pastor Ernie Sanders

September 17, 2023

FRI HR 2 091523

See omnystudio com listener for privacy information [... more]

So What?

Lon Solomon

September 01, 2023

The Power of Gratitude - Life of Christ Part 57

Support the show [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

August 31, 2023

Made for Friendship: Drew Hunter

Isn't friendship kind of optional Author Drew Hunter proposes a solution to the nationwide epidemic of loneliness He digs into the scriptural plea for authentic friendship and how exactly to make friendships you can't live without Show Notes and Resources Connect with Drew Hunter and read his article Tips on being a good friend and listen to the steps on cultivating true friendship And grab his book Made for Friendship in our shop Intrigued by today's episode Think deeper about friendship in these episodes with Kelly Needham Find resources from this podcast at shop familylife com See resources from our [... more]

Our Daily Bread Ministries

Various Hosts

August 13, 2023

Lonely, but Not Forgotten

When you listen to their stories it becomes clear that perhaps the most difficult part of being a prisoner is isolation and loneliness In fact research reveals that in the state of Florida regardless of the length of their incarceration most prisoners receive only two visits from friends or loved ones during their time behind bars Loneliness is a constant reality It rsquo s a pain I imagine Joseph felt as he sat in prison unjustly accused of a crime There had been a glimmer of hope God helped Joseph correctly interpret a dream from a fellow inmate who happened [... more]

Moody Church Hour

Pastor Phillip Miller

August 13, 2023

Death To Self-Reliance

Sometimes circumstances overwhelm us forcing us to turn to God for a way out Jonah was certainly overwhelmed in the belly of the great fish In this message Pastor Lutzer shows us what God was doing in Jonah by listening to his prayer of desperation Are we desperate for God now or will we wait for God to make us desperate This month's special offer is available for a donation of any amount Get yours at moodyoffer com or call us at - - - [... more]

Baptist Bible Hour

Lasserre Bradley, Jr.

July 23, 2023

Hope for the Lonely - Part 1 of 1

He will regard the prayer of the destitute and not despise their prayer Psalm [... more]

Moody Church Hour

Pastor Phillip Miller

July 09, 2023

God’s Glory In Our Suffering

No one is exempt from suffering We tend to think our suffering is because of Satan but suffering can also be from the hand of God In this message from John Pastor Lutzer introduces us to the man born blind While we may never know why we've had to suffer we can live in such a way that our suffering brings glory to God This month's special offer is available for a donation of any amount Get yours at moodyoffer com or call us at - - - [... more]

Our Daily Bread Ministries

Various Hosts

June 27, 2023

When You’re Lonely

At p m Hui-Liang was in his kitchen eating rice and leftover fish balls The Chua family in the apartment next door was having dinner too and their laughter and conversation cut through the silence of Hui-Liang rsquo s unit where he rsquo d lived alone since his wife died He rsquo d learned to live with loneliness over the years its stabbing pain had become a dull ache But tonight the sight of the one bowl and pair of chopsticks on his table pierced him deeply Before he went to bed that night Hui-Liang read Psalm his favorite psalm [... more]

Insight for Living

Chuck Swindoll

June 01, 2023

Hope Beyond Division: Reasons for Pulling Together, Part 2

Hope Again When Life Hurts and Dreams Fade [... more]

Our Daily Bread Ministries

Various Hosts

April 28, 2023

Always Trustworthy

I rsquo m a worrier Early mornings are the worst because I rsquo m alone with my thoughts So I taped this quote from Hudson Taylor on my bathroom mirror where I can see it when I rsquo m feeling vulnerable ldquo There is a living God He has spoken in the Bible He means what He says and will do all He has promised rdquo Taylor rsquo s words came from years of walking with God and remind us of who He is and all He can do through our times of illness poverty loneliness and grief He didn [... more]

Our Daily Bread Ministries

Various Hosts

April 18, 2023

Rent-a-Friend?

For many around the world life is getting lonelier The number of Americans who have no friends has quadrupled since Certain European countries have up to percent of their population feeling lonely while in Japan some elderly folks have resorted to crime so they can have the companionship of inmates in jail Entrepreneurs have come up with a ldquo solution rdquo to this loneliness epidemic mdash rent-a-friend Hired by the hour these people will meet you in a caf eacute to talk or accompany you to a party One such ldquo friend rdquo was asked who her clientele was ldquo [... more]

Building Relationships

Dr. Gary Chapman

April 01, 2023

Finding Hope in a Dark Place | Clarence Shuler and Dr. Monique Gadsen

If you rsquo re in a dark place in your life don rsquo t miss this Building Relationships with Dr Gary Chapman Dr Clarence Shuler had an amazing job opportunity fall through at the last minute That event sent him spiraling into depression and anxiety Dr Monique Gadson reached out to help Hear the hope in their journey together on Building Relationships with Dr Gary Chapman Featured Resource Finding Hope in a Dark PlaceSee omnystudio com listener for privacy information [... more]

Dana Loesch Show

Dana Loesch

March 14, 2023

Absurd Truth: Retired Then Unretired

More retirees are coming out of retirement Meanwhile Silicon Valley Bank had put out an advertisement out praising Black and Latinx leaders Please visit our great sponsors Black Rifle Coffeehttps blackriflecoffee com danaUse code DANA at checkout for off Fast Growing Trees https fastgrowingtrees com danaVisit fastgrowingtrees com dana today to save off your entire order Good Ranchershttps goodranchers com marchIt's March Meatness Sign up with your bracket and if yours is best you win free meat for a year Use code Dana to save an additional Hartford Gold CALL - - or text DANA to Call right now and [... more]

Summit Life

J.D. Greear

March 10, 2023

Why Singleness Matters, Part 2

Pastor J D wants to help believers know when it's the right time to be married because God created you for relationship but also that the ultimate place you find companionship is in the church [... more]

Moody Church Hour

Pastor Phillip Miller

February 19, 2023

Let God Redeem Your Story Part 2

In families that are destructive or abusive loneliness abounds Throughout Scripture we see families scandalized by abuse and its dysfunction In this message we detect characteristics of dysfunction within King David's family For those weighed down by patterns of sin Christ can make the soul whole This month's special offer is available for a donation of any amount Get yours at moodyoffer com or call us at - - - [... more]

Living on the Edge

Chip Ingram

January 17, 2023

Spiritual Simplicity - What the World Needs Now is Love, Sweet Love, Part 1

Are you tired of trying to find love Or maybe just trying to keep love alive in a relationship Could it be that you are missing a key ingredient in your life Chip simplifies the secret to finding keeping and giving away love like never before [... more]

Truth for Life

Alistair Begg

December 29, 2022

New Every Morning (Part 1 of 2)

Christians aren't spared from failure or suffering So what can we do when circumstances are bleak How did God's people find hope when they were exiled to Babylon Hear an encouraging word for discouraged people on Truth For Life with Alistair Begg Listen [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

December 15, 2022

Six Conversations in an Isolated World: Heather Holleman

Isolated Wishing for connections that matter Author Heather Holleman proposes six conversations to combat loneliness and plunge relationships deeper Show Notes and Resources Find resources from this podcast at shop familylife com Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app Help others find FamilyLife Leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify Check out all the FamilyLife podcasts on the FamilyLife Podcast Network [... more]

Alex McFarland Show

Alex McFarland

December 14, 2022

The Alex McFarland Show-35-Hope and Joy

The excitement of Christmas is resting heavy upon the world For some Christmas is a time full of hope and joy For others it's a reminder of loss and loneliness On today's episode of the Alex McFarland Show Alex shares six biblical reasons why Christmas is a time to be joyful regardless of circumstances Whether you're gleeful and expectant during this time but especially if you're struggling to simply endure the holidays this message will uplift your spirit and recenter your focus on what truly matters Alex McFarlandAsk Alex OnlineThe Assault on AmericaThe Toughest Questions Your Kids Will Ask about [... more]

In Touch

Charles Stanley

November 07, 2022

Encountering Jesus on the Jericho Road

When you encounter Jesus personally your life is changed as radically as those of the blind man and the rich man in these stories [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

October 27, 2022

John Foubert: How to Protect Kids from Porn

Is porn really that bad Dr John Foubert digs into just how destructive it can be and how to protect your kids practically from real amp present danger Show Notes and Resources Create a memorable relationship-building weekend with your teen using Passport Resources Gain victory over porn amp create your Covenant Eyes profile now Passport Mission Get access to our family kits Passport to Purity amp Passport to Identity Find resources from this podcast at shop familylife com Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app Help others find FamilyLife Leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify Check [... more]

Focus on the Family

Jim Daly

October 25, 2022

Being the Man Your Family Needs (Part 1 of 2)

Brant Hansen makes brilliant observations about what women need men to be - and six key decisions men can make to set themselves apart Alluding to the creation story Brant encourages men to be Keepers of the Garden secure confident protectors chasing after Christ Part of Receive the book The Men We Need and the audio download of the broadcast Being the Man Your Family Needs for your donation of any amount Plus receive member-exclusive benefits when you make a recurring gift today Your monthly support helps families thrive https donate focusonthefamily com don-daily-broadcast-product- - - refcd Get more episode [... more]

Family Policy Matters

NC Family Policy

October 21, 2022

Correcting the Friendship Crisis

This week on Family Policy Matters host Traci DeVette Griggs welcomes Dr Christopher Kaczor to discuss the importance of meaningful relationships in our lives during what he terms a friendship recession [... more]

In Touch

Charles Stanley

October 18, 2022

Building Wise Friendships - Part 2

Choose your friends wisely and be careful in how you develop your friendships [... more]

Hope for the Caregiver

Peter Rosenberger

October 15, 2022

The Heart of The Caregiver

Mary Tutterow joined me today in a long-form interview exclusively for the podcast Bringing more than years of experience in caring for her daughter who suffers from an extreme seizure disorder Mary offers hardwon insights into the deep and often troubled hearts of family caregivers https theheartofthecaregiver com about [... more]

Focus on the Family

Jim Daly

September 28, 2022

Helping Your Daughter Navigate Friendships

Describing some of the challenges young girls face Dannah Gresh exposes the lies girls are being told about their friendships themselves and God She shares how parents can help their daughters combat these lies with the truth and discusses the importance of falling in love with God as their true source of fulfillment Receive the Lies Girls Believe Bundle and the audio download of the broadcast Helping Your Daughter Navigate Friendships for your donation of any amount Plus receive member-exclusive benefits when you make a recurring gift today Your monthly support helps families thrive https donate focusonthefamily com don-daily-broadcast-product- - [... more]

A New Beginning

Greg Laurie

September 28, 2022

Dealing With Depression | Turn to Christ

It may come as a surprise to some it may be welcome confirmation for others but believers can get depressed Yes there are numerous Scriptures about joy and contentment but we're humans living in mortal bodies in challenging times Today on A NEW BEGINNING Pastor Greg Laurie focuses on a depressing time in the life of the great prophet Elijah and highlights a number of practical principles to help us in our times of challenge You might want to take some notes Listen on harvest org --- Learn more and subscribe to Harvest updates at harvest org A New Beginning [... more]

Words of Life

Salvation Army

September 25, 2022

Women of Hope: Jessy Fagerstrom

In this episode we hear from Jessy Fagerstrom She shares her story of battling depression anxiety and suicidal ideation Like Beth she talks about how she found hope in the word and continues to look for those flecks of gold in everyday life To learn more about the show and find other shows produced by The Salvation Army visit https salvationarmysoundcast org If you are struggling with depression and need to speak with someone immediately call Or to learn more visit https lifeline org [... more]

A New Beginning

Greg Laurie

September 18, 2022

You’ve Got a Friend | Sunday Message

When it comes to our relationships we should each ask Am I doing this right And we should turn to God for the answer Kicking off a relevant series on relationships Pastor Greg Laurie explores what the Bible says about godly friendships Notes In a culture that is redefining everything we need to go to God's original plan A friendship is made up of two people committing themselves to one another Jesus said Love your neighbor as yourself We need Godly friendships You become like the people you spend the most time with Show me your friends and I will [... more]

Living on the Edge

Chip Ingram

September 15, 2022

One at a Time - Intersections, Part 1

How different would our world look if every follower of Jesus loved people like He did And what does that look like on a day-to-day basis In this program guest teacher Kyle Idleman considers those questions as he continues his series One at a Time Don't miss the practical ways we can be more intentional about loving others and it's a lot simpler than you might think [... more]

Focus on the Family

Jim Daly

September 15, 2022

How to Help a Friend Who is Thinking About Suicide

According to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC data suicide is the second leading cause of death among people ages - And even though suicide is pervasive the stigma around depression causes many to suffer silently Tune in to learn key warning signs and find out how you can offer hope to loved ones battling despair Receive the book So Much to Live for and the audio download of the broadcast How to Help a Friend Who is Thinking About Suicide for your donation of any amount https donate focusonthefamily com don-daily-broadcast-product- - - refcd Get more episode resources [... more]

Encouraging Word

Don Wilton

September 15, 2022

Falling Back on Your Faith R1702

[... more]

Living on the Edge

Chip Ingram

September 14, 2022

One at a Time - Proximity Principle, Part 2

It's estimated that nearly four billion people over half the world's population uses social media regularly And yet experts tell us the world's number one social disease is loneliness In this program guest teacher Kyle Idleman reveals God's 'antidote' for this societal problem and how you and I can be a part of His solution [... more]

Living on the Edge

Chip Ingram

September 13, 2022

One at a Time - Proximity Principle, Part 1

Have you lost hope I mean as you see the unrest corruption and evil happening all around us have you thought 'What's the point in talking about Jesus ' In this program guest teacher Kyle Idleman continues his series One at a Time with an encouraging message Don't miss how we can cling on to the hope we have in Jesus and the simple ways we can pass it on to a discouraged world [... more]

Encouraging Word

Don Wilton

September 11, 2022

Falling Back on Your Faith R1702

[... more]

Connect with Skip Heitzig

Skip Heitzig

September 04, 2022

God’s Valentine - Part A

Today we take a look at the Bible's most famous verse and probe its depth while preparing to take the Lord's Supper together Though most everyone knows this verse John is much more than just a slogan it is a summary statement of God's love through Jesus Christ This single verse of scripture gives us the salient truths of God's plan of salvation in abridged form Let's consider God's great plan for us as we unpack it phrase by phrase [... more]

Wisdom for the Heart

Dr. Stephen Davey

August 26, 2022

Witnessing Without Words, Part 2

Society is loud today From social media platforms to review sites strong opinions are rampant Out-yell and out-argue everyone else that's society's mantra But God's ideal still resonates above the crowd [... more]

Wisdom for the Heart

Dr. Stephen Davey

August 25, 2022

Witnessing Without Words, Part 1

Hope for the Caregiver

Peter Rosenberger

August 20, 2022

The Loss of Independence, Isolation, and The Loss of Identity

Every caregiver - and I do mean EVERY caregiver will struggle with what I call the I's We lose our independence we become isolated and we lose our identity During my ten years on the air I've discussed these things often - and felt a refresher for myself was in order I go into further detail in my book Hope for the Caregiver www hopeforthecaregiver com books Please share this episode with as many as possible all too many caregivers struggle in isolation and this episode will help them learn how to push back against that isolation as well as [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

August 12, 2022

Sho and Patreece Baraka: Raising Kids on the Autism Spectrum

Parenting their sons' autism Sho Baraka and his wife Patreece felt blindsided including a loss of dreams amp sense of failure On FamilyLife Today Dave and Ann Wilson talk with the Barakas about how God met them in their shame Show Notes and Resources Learn more about a Weekend To Remember Marriage is a lifelong adventure of growing together through every age and stage of life Resource Sale Resources on FamilyLife Today Checkout this week's donation offer Find resources from this podcast at shop familylife com Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app Help others find FamilyLife Leave [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

August 11, 2022

Sho and Patreece Baraka: Raising Kids on the Autism Spectrum

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

August 10, 2022

Jennie Allen: Doing Life Together

Having little kids can mean a season of profound loneliness for young moms Author Jennie Allen explores how to find community by doing life together Show Notes and Resources Learn more about a Weekend To Remember Marriage is a lifelong adventure of growing together through every age and stage of life Find information about the IF Conference here Checkout this week's donation offer Resource Sale Resources on FamilyLife Today Find resources from this podcast at shop familylife com Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app Help others find FamilyLife Leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify Check [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

August 09, 2022

Jennie Allen: Doing Life Together

Connect with Skip Heitzig

Skip Heitzig

August 07, 2022

Nick at Nite! - Part A

The meeting of Jesus and Nicodemus at night is one of the most famous and compelling stories in Scripture This man's inner curiosity and spiritual thirst drove him to want to know more What he heard puzzled and astonished him but he heard from Jesus' own lips the only way to be saved Jesus' words here divide all of humanity into two groups those who are born again and those who are not [... more]

Family Life Today

Dave & Ann Wilson, Bob Lepine

July 24, 2022

Don Everts: Why Community is Important

Author Don Everts knows what it's like to feel disconnected in your own neighborhood But he also knows why community is critically important h gt Show Notes and Resources Everybody Always Check out Bob Goff's book Everybody Always Check out this week's donation offer Find resources from this podcast at shop familylife com Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app Help others find FamilyLife Leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify Check out all the FamilyLife podcasts on the FamilyLife Podcast Network [... more]

Summit Life

J.D. Greear

July 06, 2022

King, Champion, Brother, and Priest, Part 2

What fears control you Is it fear of missing out Or fear of pain loneliness or rejection J D Greear describes how you can be freed from all of that [... more]

The Masculine Journey

Sam Main

June 23, 2022

The Joy Ride #101

Welcome fellow Joy Riders to the Masculine Journey Joyride Podcast On this podcast you will hear funny stories exchanges and thought provoking moments that will amuse you make you smile and draw you closer to Jesus Christ in your journey of life This week Masculine Journey discusses neglect Marginalization and the orphan spirit The clip is about Danny talking about going through some rough patches and the impact God has had on his life The clip takes an interesting and unexpected turn in the end [... more]