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This is Lee Habib, and this is Our American Stories, the show where America is the star. and the American people coming to you from the city where the West begins. Fort Worth, Texas. Tom Stonewall Jackson is a legendary Confederate general Whose story has been narrowly reduced to fault finding and his Civil War experience. What we are about to do is take a holistic look.
At the man-dubbed Stonewall, with the help of an array of Jackson experts. Let's take a listen. The father and Tom's older sister died when he was two. He still had siblings and his mother left penalties was cared for by the community. She soon married again.
The second husband brought children to their wedding, but not a lot of assets. And so at the age of seven Tom Jackson underwent the trauma of being given away. His mother simply couldn't care for him and his sister and he was given to an uncle. to live. And he never forgot the sight.
And the uh The pain. of being taken from his mother's arms, being put on a horse. riding away, looking back. and she's standing in the road with her arms extended wailing. And it was a vision he never forgot.
and it would affect him the rest of his life. One of the legacies of Stonewall Jackson is the legacy of a good man. arising in terrible times. and demonstrating by character and courage. the ability of write.
to prevail in the midst of many wrongs. For me, that's the great story of Stonewall. He was a man whose goodness caused him to rise. Mrs. Jackson and her new husband in the family had moved to the southern end of what is now West Virginia.
and they were a little community called Anstead. And there she died of tuberculosis, we think about six or eight months after she gave him away. Stonewall Jackson was brought to his mother's bedside. one of the things she made him promise as she near death was that he would take part in Christian faith. and join a church.
He goes to live with an uncle whom So many previous biographers have said was wise and sagacious and calling. I didn't find that at all with Cummings Jackson. I found him gruff. unfeeling, uncalling, irreligious. Greedy.
I don't think he gave Tom Jackson love. Jackson later thought he did, but Jackson didn't know what love was. Jackson spent his youth in in solitude and loneliness. He put his hand to the plow, literally, for his uncle, with lots of physical labor and many hours spent at hard work. I think that's.
where his contemplative nature probably came from. as well as Maybe his reflections on the losses that he had suffered. Jackson was exposed to the Faith of the family slaves. His uncle was. one of the largest slave owners in Lewis County, West Virginia.
So he was exposed to their faith and their prayer life. He also had slaves that would tend to them as young children. I'm sure, as all children do, they become very close to the people that spend the most time with them. He was a quiet young man. He did like to play.
His playmates. liked to put him in charge of things and when he was at the head. His team was usually victorious. Jackson's boyhood took a distinct turn when he befriended Joe Lightburn. who years later would become a distinguished general in the Union Army.
More than anyone else, Joe Lightburn influenced Tom Jackson to accept the gospel. They were kindred spirits. teenage boys together. out here in the frontier living together. It was a wonderful friendship for Jackson because it was the Lightman family who introduced Jackson to the Bible.
He'd never seen the Bible, he wouldn't see it. Jackson's meal.
So the Lightmans introduced him to the Bible. He attended Baptist church services with them. And his first love of religion, I think, came from them, and along with his friend Joe Rankman. The Lightburns had books and that was wonderful and Tom loved books. And so he would go to their home.
And actually, Mr. Lightburn spent a lot of time with Tom and with his own son Joe with the books. They love the revolutionary war soldier, the swamp fox. And they read all about him, and I can just imagine they're out there playing Revolutionary War soldiers as boys would do. And he kind of found a spiritual.
Soul. and Joe Lightburn. And they stayed that way right up until the end. Lightburn challenged Jackson to Christian excellence in many areas of life. He once told Jackson that slaves ought to be taught to read so that they could read the Bible.
He knew that West Point offered him the one opportunity to improve himself. If he failed that He was condemned to go back to Jackson's Mill. He spent all of his time studying, unlike some of his comrades there who spent their time in levity and and partying. He was very, very adamant about finishing something. You never hear of him, you never see him.
because the poor kid was studying around the clock. He permanently damaged his eyes. He wore spectacles in private thereafter. But he did nothing for four years but tried to graduate. And then that famous class of 46, which gave 21 generals to the armies.
Of 59 cadets in that class, he stood 17th. And they said had he been on one more year, he would have graduated number one in his class. And it was determination. To me, that is the one word. that characterizes this man from beginning to end, determination.
And you've been listening to an assortment of Stonewall Jackson experts. Telling the story of the young. Tom Stonewall Jackson and the influences that made him who he was. And my goodness, that that memory of that separation from his mother, The searing nature of that, the long-lasting nature of that, but also the profound upside. It introduced him to people he would unlikely not have met and influenced his faith journey.
His Christian walk. And his seriousness as a young man. knowing in the end that hard work Determination could get him to West Point. and that West Point could change the arc of his life. When we come back.
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So how did ashes come together, Diplo?
Well, uh I kind of briefly met Bailey I think at Morgan's show, one of them. And I think He's just the guy in Nashville. He's cool as hell, and I had a new kind of sound I wanted to do. I think he's the one guy that could carry it. I came to his house, I had a show.
I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus, and we had like three hours. play the record for him. kinda like got a scratch and then he handled it on his own on the road.
Yeah. It was really cool. He literally just like randomly showed up to my house and I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay.
And then.
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of legendary Confederate General Tom Stonewall Jackson. Let's pick up where we last left off. The Mexican War came. And it came right at the end of his senior year, and he knew that he would be in it. He was assigned to the artillery, which he expected and desired.
and was sent to Mexico. It just so happened. The commanding officer of his artillery battalion was a devoted and mature Christian, Captain Taylor, later Major, later colonel. They became good friends and On top of that, his commanding officer challenged him to define his faith. to learn the scriptures.
to have an active Christian testimony. It's Taylor who reintroduces him to the Bible. It's Taylor who at Fort Hamilton and elsewhere where Jackson was stationed. introduced him to the various religious denominations. Kayla was uh Had deep spiritual feelings, and he imparted them to a Hungary Jackson.
The Mexican experience is important for two reasons. For one, Jackson found that he liked the military. He liked the structured regimen of army life. He liked the stepping stone processes and whatnot. And then he suddenly discovered.
I believe he was in battle. He was brave to a fault. He was fearless. He was a hero in one of the battles, one of the last battles of the war. Stood in the middle of the road being shelled by the Mexicans.
His men were falling all around him. The cannon shot went between his legs. And he continued manning the gun until help arrived. He was He was utterly fearless. You know, he was brevetted three times for gallantry in the field.
There were a few others who got three puvets, none got more.
So Jackson comes out of that war one of the true heroes. He goes to Mexico one year as a pivet second lieutenant. He comes home a bivet major.
So Jackson found his niche with the military in the Mexican War. And he discovered Perhaps to his surprise, he was quite good at it. He is in a way mesmerized by the Roman Catholic Church that he sees in Mexico. And he embarks on a mission to discover the The tenets of the Roman Catholic Church. He converses with the bishop in Mexico City and other Catholic priests.
The devotion of the people is what had caught his attention. In the end he rejected The Roman Catholic Church is not conforming to the scriptures as he understood it. He looked at things from every possible angle to find the solution and to know everything about it. After the Mexican War, he was stationed at Fort Hamilton and while there, She made a public profession and was baptized. After leaving Fort Hamilton, he took with him a firm Christian faith.
Returning from the Mexican War with many honors and promotions, Jackson applied to teach at Virginia Military Institute. He became a professor of mathematics at the Distinguished Military Academy. and now named Lexington as his home. Once he settles in Lexington, then he begins a quest, if you will, a crusade, an offensive. for culture.
to butter himself. He began keeping a book of maxims when he got to Lexington. He had absolutely no social graces. And he had to figure out how he would behave in public. He certainly learned nothing at Jackson's Mill about society and politeness.
He settled in and Became the professor at VMI, became an elder at the Presbyterian Church, served on the board of a bank, was involved in some other business enterprises with other locals. In late summer 1851, a new Jackson begins to emerge. Plan or positive. He probably was the worst teacher in the history of Virginia Military Institute. He memorized his lectures the day before because of bad eyesight.
and then in the morning he would spew off this uh recorded spiel, so to speak. If a good had a question, About a point, all Johnson could do is pull back the tape and spew off the same thing word for word again. And what people forget. is that these negative remarks were made the first two or three years he was at the Institute. Starting about 1854, etc., Now these cadets began to realize, well, He's kooky.
But there's something substantive in this man. And one of these cadets wrote in his class notebook toward the end of a terribly dull course under Major Jackson. The cadet wrote, I can't stand the way this man teaches. But if I ever have to go to war I want to go with him. because it's something substantive in the nature.
and this cadet went to war with him and died for him at Kernstown in March 1862. Stonewall Jackson's greatest aspiration in life was to have a family. like what he did not have as a child. Jackson, the family became far more important to him than it would to a normal person. And this was especially true with children.
When Jackson got around little children, he couldn't stay away from them. and he just had to love them. His his love of children was really and literally overwhelming. They tell the story in Winchester. of him riding in from a military action.
outside Winchester. He had on his uniform coat, it was dusty and whatnot. And seconds later, he's on his hands and knees playing horsey with the children.
So here comes this great warrior at one moment. And seconds later. He's down on the floor playing with children. This is Star Wars Jackson. While in Lexington, He Found in Mary the Love of his life, Eleanor Junkin, who was the daughter of the president of Washington College.
He wrote that he he didn't think he could be possibly happier in his life. than being married to to Eleanor. At last he's able to Began to create this thing that he had sought: this intimacy, the bond of family. He was a very devoted husband. You know, it's hard sometimes to picture the fearless Confederate warrior as a family man, but.
loved his wife dearly. yet she died in childbirth, and the baby died as well. And he had to bury his uh his beloved wife. It was overwhelming. Here is a man who has fallen in love for the first time in his life.
And he marries this girl and 14 months later she's dead. And the son she was bearing died with her.
So Jackson lost his wife, he lost his son, he lost his family, all in one tremendous blow. And the night after the funeral, no one could find him in Lexington. He just disappeared. and some one thought of going out to the cemetery, and it's pouring rain, and Jackson's lying atop his wife's grave, clawing it to earth, trying to bring her back. Uh I'm of the opinion that he would have died from that.
if he had not acquired that overwhelming faith that is his driving force as an adult. Yeah. He's eventually. came to the conclusion that God had a reason. for taking Ellie and his son.
And He must continue his life and let God's will be done. After the death of Eleanor and his son, Jackson took an unexpected journey. boarding a ship bound for Europe. He went to Europe not only to see the sites and learn history, he went to Europe to reorient himself. Catch his breath, more or less, and to come back and.
and fire again It was upon his return from Europe That he contacted an old friend and said, Hello, hope you remember me. This led to an acquaintance in a very quick proposal. Her name was Marianna Morrison. They had met years earlier when he was actually engaged to Eleanor Junkin. And you've been listening to the story of Tom Stonewall Jackson.
And what a story you're hearing and a full and complete picture. of this remarkable man who simply caught on the wrong side of history the epic battle we now know. is the Civil War. Right after graduating from West Point, he's off to the Mexican War, where he's going to learn firsthand. about battle.
And he had this commanding officer, commanding officer Taylor. Who helped Jackson forge a deeper faith? But it was there that Jackson discovered he liked the structure of the military and that he had an aptitude. for battle. He was brave to a fault, we heard, fearless in battle.
And he comes out of the war a true hero. and a major. Mesmerized by the Roman Catholic Church while in Mexico, he dabbles. And When he comes out of the war, he has no social graces. What to do next?
He lands at VMI, where he's a professor and not a terribly good one. As one student said of Jackson, I can't stand the way this man teaches. But if I ever go to war... I want to go to war with him. And of course, the importance of family for Jackson.
He married, And his wife was pregnant when she died. He lost a family all over again. When we come back, more of this remarkable story, the story of General Stonewall Jackson. Here. on our American story.
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bone Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio Music Festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. Check this out.
So how did ashes come together, Diplo?
Well, uh I kind of briefly met Bailey I think a Morgan's show, one of them. And I think He's just the guy in Nashville. He's cool as hell, and I had a new kind of sound I wanted to do, and I think he's the one guy that could carry it. I came to his house, I had a show. I pulled up real quick.
He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus, and we had like three hours. played the record for him, we kinda like got a scratch and then he handled it on his own on the road. Yeah. It was really cool.
He literally just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay. And then.
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Bonaventure's water delivery program by going to stbonaventuremission.org. And we continue with our American stories and the story of Tom Stonewall Jackson. Let's pick up where we last left off. From reading between the lines, Anna fell in love with Major Jackson when she first met him. She described, as a young girl, I think, would in her early 20s what he looked like when she first saw him.
And she said he was 5'11 and 3 quarters. I mean, even then, she had described exactly how tall he was, and that he had dark brown hair, and he had his hair cut short. She thought that a beard would look much better on him. And of course, eventually she talked him into growing that beard. She said that when he laughed, though, or when he would smile, his whole face would light up.
And he had his papa's blue gray eyes, and she said that he was really quite wonderful. His passion was always for family. He was so loyal. to his family. And the love affair with his wife is one of the most beautiful stories in all of American history.
He used to play practical jokes on her all the time. He used to hide behind doors, and he'd jump out and pick her up, turn her round, give her a kiss. That's not exactly what we think about the strong general called Stonewall. The greatest joy of his life, the thing he wanted more than anything else. Was to be married and to establish a Christian home and to raise children.
As the nation simmered with an impending collision of ideals, Jackson chose a course that transcended predictable stereotypes. And established a Sunday school class for both slaves and free blacks.
so resolved was his conviction to educate and evangelize those with lesser opportunities. The Sunday school class just became an overwhelming crusade for him. Because he believed fundamentally that every human being was a child of God. and had an equal right to seeks. It's salvation.
and he was contributing his part. Toward the black race. taught his students to read. Because he believed that every Christian had to be able to read the Bible for themselves. And so he.
at least on this one occasion in his life, ignored The law It met in violation of Virginia statute. which forbade blacks gathering in public to speak, And Jackson said they weren't doing that, they were gathering there to worship God. Jackson felt that there is Man's law and God's law, and when he perceives that there is a disconnect between the two, then It's his duty to follow God's law. And that is what we see him doing in his involvement with the Sunday School class. No one ever challenged him legally on the subject.
There were some rumbles of discontent, of course. But he conducted that Sunday school class all the way up to war. and at one point it was up to about 105. And he read them scriptures from the Bible, explained them as best he could. they would have fires.
They would always sing Amazing Grace. I don't know why, nor did Jackson. He loved Amazing Grace, but he was totally tone deaf where music was concerned. stays interested even when he's called away from VMI. And Lexington during the Civil War continues to be interested and supports through his.
Tithing the efforts of the Sunday school. Would send $5 and say, put this toward the class.
So they were even on his mind when he was on active campaign.
Solomon's people for whom he was responsible. Stonewall was A southern gentleman who was the champion of enslaved men and women. A man who was feared on the battlefield, but who was the gentle proclaimer of good news. For me, the great appeal of Thomas Stonewall Jackson. is simply that You can't pin this guy down.
He is such a surprise. what people easily misunderstand. Is that when the war comes, Jackson's not fighting to preserve slavery. The first time that the people of Virginia voted, they said no. They were not going to secede from the Union.
And Jackson was a Union man. He was a pro-Union man. But When Abraham Lincoln called for 75,000 volunteers. to invade the South, and he demanded Virginia to supply There contingent to that army of invasion. Then the General Assembly of Virginia.
And Virginia seceded big time. But he was fighting for his home. land his home state of Virginia. Virginia had been invaded. Men have gone to war for ages in this country for identically the same reason, defend our homes, defend our way of life.
His name was uh You know. Thomas Jonathan Jackson. Tom And in the very first great battle of the war, Battle First Manassas. Jackson's Brigade was Brought from the valley, join the Army of Johnston. in Beauregard.
and brought into the field at the Battle of Manassas, kind of late in the battle. We've been Swirling for a number of hours on that hot July day, 1861. And Jackson's men came up, Worry. set up behind the line. at the Henry House Hill.
Jackson was told to hold that line. And so, as the battle flowed back and forth, and as the Confederate lines broke and reformed and broke again. Finally, it it seemed like the Union assault was going to succeed. and break apart the the Confederate. line and as the South Carolina regiment of Bernard B.
was falling back. B allegedly said Well halt men. formed behind the Virginians, there stands Jackson like a stone wall. Enough people heard it that Jackson took on that sobriquet of Stonewall. In some ways, it's a metaphor.
of his life. And it was character. In almost every letter Jackson wrote to Dr. White during the war, he inquired about Sunday crew class. And indeed, Lexington stood back breathless, waiting to hear.
Bung Jackson after the Battle of Manassas. the word seeped into the valley that Beauregard hadn't won the battle, Johnson hadn't won the battle, General Jackson won that battle, so Lexington was very anxious. To hear from Jackson and a lot of our lives. for Dr. White.
And everybody in town gathers around. Doctor White opens the letter and Jackson says something. Owing to uh some affairs yesterday, I was not able to To send you what I wanted to do, but enclosed is my donation for the Colored Sunday School.
Well, the busy ordeal Jackson had had had been the bottle of Manassas and. He makes no mention of it. He simply sends Dr. White a contribution toward the Sunday school.
So the enemy's action was totally unpredictable. Uh he he w he was all he was Predictable for doing the unpredictable. You never knew where it was. Jackson's two great secrets were secrecy and speed. in marching and in fighting.
And he just popped up out of nowhere, and the Shenandoah Valley campaign demonstrates that. the legacy of his his valley campaign. Is still studied in military schools in different parts of the world. By the end of the Valley Campaign, the men in the ranks adored Jackson. And you've been listening to the story of General Tom Stonewall Jackson.
You even learned how he got the nickname, how he earned the nickname, I might add. and we learn so much more about the complexity of this man. and what he was willing to do and how he was willing to view. Slaves Not fully free. Right?
But fully human. Why else break Virginia's statutes and law? to teach black slaves and free blacks. how to read, and to read so they could read the Bible. This was, of course, a violation of the Virginia law, as I said earlier, but Jackson saw it as his obligation as a Christian.
Just as Martin Luther King had written in letters from a Birmingham jail, that when God's law was in contradiction to man's, It was God's law that had to prevail. And of course, in the end, what we learned, this man was born to fight. and born to lead. And in the end what we learn is that Jackson was fighting for his home state. when Lincoln issued the proclamation for the invasion of the South.
His home Virginia, his home state. He had to take a stand and side with his home. When we come back, More of this remarkable story, this nuanced story, capturing the full complexity of this human being. The story of Tom Stonewall Jackson continues. Here.
on Our American Stories. Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bone Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio Music Festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. Check this out.
So how did ashes come together, Diplo?
Well, uh I kind of briefly met Bailey, I think, at Morgan's show, one of them, and I think He's just the guy in Nashville. He's cool as hell, and I had a new kind of sound I wanted to do. I think he's the one guy that could carry it. I came to his house, I had a show. I pulled up real quick.
He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus, and we had like three hours. played the record for him, we kinda like got a scratch and then he handled it on his own on the road. Yeah. It was really cool.
He literally just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay. And then.
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of this remarkable man and this great general. Let's pick up where we last left off. Jim Lewis was Jackson's body servant, slave.
Now the records of course are sketchy on Lewis. But it appears that Lewis was owned by a fellow church member. And Jackson leased him. during the war for his cooking abilities and he was a great cook. And he was very loyal to Jackson.
They had a great relationship. They trusted each other. Jackson one time got in an argument with with Lewis about which horse he was going to ride in battle. And Jackson wanted a particular Horse and Lewis said no. Words were exchanged, and eventually Jackson.
Agreed. to Lewis's uh recommendation. Which is really You know, that's unusual because Jackson took counsel of few people. He never let anybody bother Tom when he was praying. He made everyone quiet around the camp.
There was an incident one time when Jackson was praying in his tent. and the rest of the camp, they were taking their tents down, getting ready to move. And there was a lot of chatter going on, and Lewis steps up and he holds his hand up and You know, tells everyone to be quiet. The general's praying. Jackson always kept his battle plans close to his chest.
wouldn't share that with even his very closest officers. But Jim Lewis knew something was about when Jackson got up early in the morning to pray. It's often said that In the north, mothers would put Misbehaving children to bed and say, if you're not careful, Stonewall Jackson's coming to get you. And that would do it. He was a mystery.
frightening unknown to the northern armies. throughout his brief but spectacular career. His name became a byword in the North and in the South. It also stayed the hand of the Union invasion of Virginia. Uh to some extent because They had to worry about Jackson in the valley.
three armies was not enough. to subdue him. On May 2nd, Jackson had led his most famous flank attack. The flank attack drove the Union Army back three miles. It bent its lines into almost a U shape.
And then that night Jackson did a couple of things that were major mistakes. we can say in retrospect he should have known better. To find out where the Union lines were, he himself went out there. An army commander doesn't do that. You send scouts.
He was hit three times. One of the balls shattered his left shoulder to such an extent that. I think amputation would be in order today because the bones were just reduced to splinters. The amputation took place. early on the morning of the third.
During the nights that Jackson was suffering with the fever and the chills and all the pain from the wounding. His only child that was to be born and survive was born during the war itself. and he did get to hold her in his arms before he died, but just barely. And that was It was a grief to him. to see that he would He would not see her grow up.
At his deathbed, he had resigned his life to God and to eternal salvation and saw it as God's will, but he did. have that regret. On Sunday, May 10th, 1863, Surgeon Maguire. Yeah, inform Mrs. Jackson that He would not make it through the day.
So that that's kind of strange to be able To tell when the time of death is coming. Indeed, you could almost predict the hour, but you couldn't do anything. for the the illness itself. You know, I think it's a very good thing. On the afternoon of May 10th, Jackson went home.
It was devastating. His was probably the greatest personal loss. The South suffered in the Civil War. The whole nation mourned because Jackson was so revered by then, he was a member of everybody's family. And they took his body to the state capitol in Richmond.
He lay in state. And it was springtime. an estimated 25,000 people. came to tell him goodbye. And in those days, death was callous.
You did not get emotional at death because that's to let death conquer you. But the dead man here was Stonewall Jackson. And people just could not conceal their grief. and thousands of him passing his casket in the motunda, the State Capitol. instinctively it lays queen flowers.
at the base of the coffin. Union General Joseph Lightburn, Jackson's boyhood friend, learned of his passing while leading Lightburn's northern troops in the Battle of Vicksburg. He wept. Because he remembered all their childhood days together and you never can replace a memory like that. The grief that infected the men who had served under him was deep and widespread.
and there were those who despaired for the Confederacy. because God had taken Jackson from them. In the years following his death, Jackson's influence continued to grow. Yes, he was regarded as a military hero, But another of his most significant contributions was that the slaves and free blacks who attended Jackson Sunday School class went on to form four churches. three of which are still in existence to day.
To The Legacy of Jackson is a stained glass window in rural North Virginia commissioned by a descendant of slaves who came to faith in Jackson's Sunday school class. The stained glass reads in memory of Stonewall Jackson. Let us cross the river. and rest in the shade of the trees. The slaves That had been a part of Jackson Sunday School class in Lexington would become the freedmen of the African-American community in the post-war Lexington and Valley of Virginia.
And they still revered him. Those that were from Lexington, the blacks and the slaves, former slaves, even free blacks, still revered him. Tom Jonathan Jackson appeals to us yet today for several fundamental reasons. As Americans, we like to root for the underdog, and Jackson provides us with a great. Almost Horatio Alger underdog in his early years in the western part of Virginia, his struggling to improve himself through his years at West Point, and his constant insistence on the betterment, being the best person he could possibly be in his private and family life.
Thomas Jackson was one of the few military geniuses. And coupled with that was an abiding faith that by our day's standards is enviable. How would Jackson wish to be remembered by us today? Perhaps most succinctly as a Christian soldier, Who did his duty? What we see in Stonewall Jackson is really a complete man.
A man who understood the value of home, who understood the value of courage. of sacrifice, And uh and what it took To rise from very ordinary, oftentimes deprived circumstances. to make a difference in the world. He was one of those unique men. who understood his calling And never felt that his calling was in any way limited by his experiences.
One of the things that makes a fairy tale so appealing. is Irony and Paradox The the fact that A a very ordinary person does extraordinary things. And the fact that somebody who has A very unlikely background is suddenly able to rise to the occasion and then do very Surprising things. That to me is the appeal of Thomas Star World Jackson. His convictions were like a stone wall.
his beliefs, his convictions, his There's a tension in devotion to duty. And so he earned it on the battlefield, and it went with him throughout his life, and we're talking about it today. He's Stonewall Jackson. And a terrific job by the production, editing, and storytelling by our own Greg Hengler. And we'd like to thank the contributing experts to this story: George Grant, William Potter.
James Robertson, Richard Williams, Dean Hardman. Gene Carter, Francis Lightburn Cressman, Susan Church, Gary Smith, And Colonel Keith Gibson, and a special thanks to Vision Video for giving us special access to the interviews in their documentary, Still Standing. The Stonewall Jackson Story. And my goodness, what we learn here is what the name Stonewall Jackson even meant to Northerners and Southerners. He was an unknown and a fearful unknown to many in the North.
and an unknown and a fearful unknown to those in the south too, a warrior. A military genius. But it was those relationships with the slaves what's so special. And I have a deep connection to Virginia. I went to law school at the University of Virginia, and we took many a road trip.
Product of the North, I grew up in New Jersey. I really came to understood Southerners too. and the Southern stories, particularly a Southern hero story like this. and those slaves that he taught the Bible to would found for churches. and in this one church in Roanoke on stained glass.
is this inscription to the man. In memory of Stonewall Jackson, Quote, let us cross the river. and rest in the shade of the trees. The story of Tom Stonewall Jackson. Here.
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He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus, and we had like three hours. It was really cool. He literally just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing?
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