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June 28, 2024 5:55 pm

The importance of recognizing and addressing cognitive impairment in individuals, particularly in positions of power, and the role of enabling behavior in exacerbating the issue. A caregiver's perspective on the need for responsible decision-making and the consequences of ignoring the problem.

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Glad to be here. I'm guest hosting today, this lovely Friday afternoon, and we're going to talk a lot about last night of what happened at the debate, but from a much different perspective. I host a radio program every week for family caregivers. I've been a caregiver now for four decades, and I have some thoughts on what I observed at the debate last night from a caregiver standpoint.

And the world I live in, we have certain things that we see that maybe others don't, and we know about them. So we're going to talk about that today. If you want to weigh in on that, then you can call 866-348-7884.

866-34-TRUTH. And we'd love to have that conversation. At some point during today's program, I may step over to the caregiver keyboard. If you've got something you want to hear, I'll be glad to try to play it for you. I usually stay with the hymns, because that's where most people live and know songs like this. But if you've got something you want to hear, I'll be glad to.

And we'll talk about that too, because I'm on a mission to help reintroduce hymns to folks, to let them know how to anchor their faith, particularly during unsettling times. And wouldn't you agree at this point that we're rather unsettled as a nation? I think when we watched what we saw last night, and I don't know how many of you all watched it, but it's pretty unsettling to see the President of the United States in that manner. And you kind of have to wonder, what do our allies and our adversaries think about that?

And what have we come to in this country? So if that's something that's on your mind, it's truth 866-348-7884. And just a little bit of background on me on why I'm going to talk about this and what I do. For almost 40 years, for four decades now, I've been a caregiver for my wife, still am. 86 surgeries, both her legs amputated, treatment by more than 100 doctors in 13 hospitals. I stopped counting after 100 doctors. The medical bills have exceeded well over 15.

It's just hard to count at this point, 15 million. And I've been doing this since Reagan was President. And I've learned a lot about life, love, faith, suffering challenges, impairments, all kinds of things. And some years ago, I launched a whole focus on the family caregiver, on those who put themselves between a chronically impaired loved one and even worse disaster. And that's what I do.

And some of you may have heard my program on this network and certainly on the Truth Network podcast. And I've been doing this for a long time, written several books on it. My newest book is called A Minute for Caregivers, when every day feels like Monday. And these are just one minute chapters that I write for the family caregiver. Now, a family caregiver is, when I started doing this, people thought, well, you're just about nursing homes.

No, I'm not. My wife's never been in a nursing home. And we've been doing this since we were in our 20s. There are families out there with special needs children, Down syndrome, autism, spina bifida, all kinds of things, cerebral palsy. There's all kinds of things out there that don't necessarily take somebody to a nursing home.

Then you've got mental illness. And certainly we have an aging population. Our bodies are living longer than our brains are. And you have that going on with the baby boomer population and all that kind of stuff as we're getting older.

And then you have a category that nobody's ever really considered until I started doing this, at least not nationally. And that's with those who are impaired with alcohol or drugs. And if you have a loved one who is chronically impaired with an addiction, you are a caregiver. You may not think of yourself as such, but you are because it's a chronic illness. It's a chronic impairment. And even if they're walking in recovery, which is great, it's a constant fight to stay in recovery. Any addict will tell you that.

There's a great thing I just saw recently on Russ Taft, and he is very candid about his journey with addiction. The gospel singer Russ Taft, my wife, she and Russ did a great duo. And you can hear it if you want to go to our website and see some of our music and so forth. Gracie is an amazing singer, and that's PeterRosenberger.com. But Russ and Gracie did a fabulous duet. And he and Tori are just wonderful people.

I've had them on my program. And he's very candid about it. And I'd like for you to take a look at this. You can go out and see his stuff. There's a documentary on it called I Still Believe.

And I would really appreciate going out. And I know Russ and Tori would, because these are things that we need to talk about as believers. And if we don't talk about it, who's going to?

Who's going to offer the hope of the gospel into this? And before I get into the whole thing with the debate, and we'll carry this over the course of this program, I want to introduce you to a concept that I want you to think about as you think about the debate from last night with Joe Biden and Donald Trump. And there's this thing called what I call the fog of caregivers. Fear, obligation, and guilt. The fog of caregivers. And every caregiver will get into this fog where we become so disoriented. We don't really know how to function.

And we can get very hurt. Now, what do you do in a fog? I know all of you have driven and you've been in a fog situation.

What's the first thing you do? Well, you slow down. Now, do you turn on your high beams or you turn on your low beams? Well, you turn on your low beams.

Why is that? Because if you turn on your high beams, it's going to glare back at you. So when you're driving in a fog, if you're trying to see too far ahead, it's just going to glare back at you. You have to just deal with the light in front of you. And what does scripture say about that? Thy word is a lamp unto my feet.

Not a searchlight, a lamp. Sometimes we just see the next step, but you have to go slow. And when you are taking care of somebody with any type of chronic impairment, you've got to slow down. That fear, that obligation, that fear will say, what are we going to do about this? How are we going to do this?

What's going to happen here? That obligation is going to say, I have to, I'm supposed to, I need to, I should have, all that kind of stuff where I'm obligated to do it. And then that guilt is going to hit you with all kinds of things such as, I feel guilty because I can stand up and they can't, or I want to watch a television show uninterrupted for 30 minutes, that kind of thing. And we feel guilty. We're driven by that.

The fog of caregivers. We're going to talk about this more when we come back. This is Peter Rosenberg and this is Truth Talk Live.

We'll be right back. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberg, guest hosting today, Truth Talk Live 866-348-7884.

If you want to be on the program, 866-34-TRUTH, 866-34-TRUTH. Now let me ask you a question. How many of you, just raise your hands, how many of you all think that Joe Biden demonstrated cognitive impairment last night? Just, just a show of hands. Now, if you think this, then why was he up there?

And it seems like the Democrat party and everybody else is looking at this in just a panic and they're trying to spin it and he was out doing a rally today and he had a teleprompter and somebody wrote a speech for him and so forth and so on. I get it. Damage is done.

Now the whole world has seen this. Now I'm not coming at this from a political standpoint. I'm coming at this from a caregiver standpoint because how many of you all have seen somebody in your life who has demonstrated cognitive decline, who doesn't need to be driving and you're worried about them in the car.

You're worried about them when it comes to their checkbook. The awesome power that we have invested in one man in the presidency resides in that man last night. Now, why is he up there and who is responsible for this? And as a caregiver, I can tell you that my concern and my pointed comments are not necessarily for Joe Biden, but for all the people around him who have enabled this. And I talked about it in the last block, the fog of caregivers, the fog of caregivers, fear, obligation, and guilt. And this is what gets us disoriented.

If we try to race through the fog of caregivers, if we don't slow down, if we don't really back it off, we're going to get just as hurt as if we were driving in a fog and running to a tree or running off of a cliff. And this is where we are as a country right now. We've seen this from day one. That's why he ran from the basement in 2020. They didn't want to put him out there.

They knew he couldn't do it. And this is not new, but it's amplified now to almost deafening levels. And here we are. Now, who's responsible for this? Is Joe Biden responsible?

Well, maybe, but there are lots of people around, but there's one person in particular who has access to him that nobody else does. And that's his wife, an educated woman. Why is she being this way?

Why is she allowing this to happen? I saw her leading him off the stage. Let's say somebody grabbed that on their phone and, and I saw her leading him off and she's looking and says, you did good. You'd answered, you answered every question. That is the most powerful office really in the world. And that's, that's the response.

You answered every question. What responsibility does she have in this? Now, let me give you a little bit of history here. She's not the first first lady to enable a spouse with something going on. And in fact, we can go back to Edith Wilson. Woodrow Wilson had a stroke and Edith Wilson was basically de facto president, uh, for a very long time. And a lot of people didn't know it. We didn't have the kind of media, of course, that nowadays media, I don't know that you feel this way or not, but our media today has been out there touting that he's just sharp and behind closed doors, you know, he's turning cartwheels and doing trigonometry and everything else. And, and now we see that they've been lying and staffers in the white house and Democrat party and, and the media and all that. They've all been just basically gaslighting the American people and the world. We've all seen it now. It's there. We can't, we can't unsee this.

This is not some kind of a fake shot that they try to promulgate. So what's going on? And again, you, you put politics into this all you want, but I'm talking about this from a caregiver standpoint.

This is what happens to families when they allow someone to continue past their prime, past their abilities. And there you go back to Edith Wilson and she did this. Here's what she said. This is a quote from the, she wrote in her memoirs, Edith Wilson Woodrow Wilson's wife. So began my stewardship. I studied every paper sent from the different secretaries or senators and try to digest and present in tabloid form. The things that despite my vigilance had to go to the president.

I myself never made a single decision regarding the disposition of public affairs. The only decision that was mine was that what was important and what was not. And the very important decision of when to present matters to my husband. Well, that sounds like she is saying something very noble, but do you realize what she's saying? She's saying I decided on what went to the president, not her husband, her, not what went to her husband, but to the president. The president of the United States was having everything filtered through his wife who was not appointed and she was not elected. And she made that decision. Nobody voted for her. And so she's thinking in herself, in her mind, she's doing something right. She's writing this in her memoirs.

Oh, look at what I did. But she disregarded the fact that the American people elected Woodrow Wilson, not Edith Wilson. Now again, there's plenty of first ladies who have enabled spouses, whether it's through cognitive impairment or behavior impairment, and you could do your own search on that.

But it's not limited to the White House. Some years ago, Strom Thurmond, I'm from South Carolina originally, Strom Thurmond was at a reception and somebody looked over and he was over there. He had buffalo wings that he was stuffing into his coat pocket and the sauce was just dripping out of his coat pocket. And aides quickly rushed over there to get him and usher him away. He was at the time in his mid 90s and he was the president and pro temp of the United States Senate and fourth in line to the presidency. And he was being enabled in this.

And then you got, do you remember this in 2010, Hank Johnson, he became a punchline. He's a congressman from Georgia who I believe is still sitting in Congress and he was worried about the overpopulation of the island of Guam that it was going to tip over and capsize. And later on, they tried to dismiss it. He was just joking. I've looked at the tape. He was asking a sincere question.

He thought the island was going to tip over. And you could just go through representative and elected officials over time. There's so many of them and they get enabled in there. Take it out of the political, put it in entertainment. Look at Elvis. Colonel Tom Parker was pushing him out on stage. He needed to be in the hospital.

And yet the show had to go on. And I've been able to talk with others who did it the right way. I've had Glenn Campbell's wife on my show and Kim and wonderful, wonderful lady. They lived, when we lived in Nashville, they just lived down the road from us a little bit. But Glenn, when he had Alzheimer's, he went out on tour, told everybody he had Alzheimer's and then they did a documentary.

So it's worth seeing if you get a chance to. It's called I'll Be Me. And the audience knew he had Alzheimer's. The band knew he had Alzheimer's.

Glenn knew he had Alzheimer's. And yet they still did it as a farewell tour to say goodbye and I'm dealing with this and I want to bring awareness to this. And it was an amazing tribute to a family that this is how we're going to deal with this.

So there are people that do it right and there are people that don't. And we're going to talk about that some more when we come back. 866-34-TRUTH. This is Peter Rosenberger.

We'll be right back. Truth Talk Live! You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Going back to Truth Talk Live!

This is Peter Rosenberger filling in today. 866-34-TRUTH. If you want to be a part of the program 866-34-TRUTH. We're going to try to get to our calls here in just a moment but I want to finish touching on this thing because I'm setting the table of why I'm talking about this. And I'm bringing a family caregiver's point of view.

Somebody who deals in this world. Because if you have somebody who exhibits these kinds of behaviors, you start asking questions. If those questions become part of the normal conversation, is Dad okay? Is Mom okay? Is he okay? Those questions are legitimized in the caregiving world.

Okay? They are because the family is asking. And people are asking. People are starting to say something. And if you keep dismissing it off, then what's happening is you've gone from caregiving to enabling. And that is a very dangerous trap.

A lot of caregivers find themselves in this place. Have we gotten there now as a country? Do we have a sycophantic media and the Democrat party and at the top of the spear, the first lady, enabling behavior that is not okay? Wouldn't be the first time in this country. May not be the last time. But as I mentioned earlier, you had a situation with Glen Campbell where he knew what was going on. His family knew what was going on. And everybody talked about it. And he wanted to go out to the fans and say, I want to bring awareness of this. I want to say goodbye.

I want to say thank you. But this is what's happened to me. Bruce Willis's family did the same thing. They pulled him off the movie set. Billy Graham stepped away from the pulpit. I mean, he had one last sermon, but he was very open about what was going on with him, with Parkinson's and everything else. My father stepped away from the pulpit.

He has Parkinson's and he stepped away from public ministry in that regards because of the challenges that Parkinson's were giving him and still are. And so there are people that do this and they handle it well, but every family is going to deal with this at some point. If you live long enough, you're going to need a caregiver.

If you love somebody, you're going to be one. So movie stars, presidents to evangelists, everybody's going to deal with this of having to take the keys away. They're going to have to worry about access to cooking devices and bathtubs.

Mobile phones will be confiscated, all those kinds of things. And what we saw last night was a man who was not able to function in a normal fashion, in the hardest job in the world. And we're not the only ones that watched that by the way. I mean, that did get a lot of people as viewers. Do you think that they watched this in China? Do you think they watched it in North Korea? Do you think Putin had his people watch or Putin was watching it himself? What do you think?

Well, of course they were. So what's going on here? And just as there are a lot of ways to have impairments, there are a lot of ways to be enablers. And you'll see people saying things like in the caregiving world, oh, he's just tired. Well, that's just the way he is. She's got a lot on her or he's in a lot of pain or she's just eccentric or he's always been that way.

Those are things that people use to kind of cover up. Last night we had a new one. Did you hear it? Oh, he's got a cold. Well, I get colds. You get colds. I do radio with colds and I'll come on and say, hey, I got a cold, you know, and I'll sound, my voice will sound foggy and everything else and I'll sniffle a little bit. I'll try not to do that into the microphone, but you know, I got a cold and I got a cold as listeners and we all know we let each other in on it. Yeah, I got a cold. That's why I sound this way.

Sorry. You know, those phrases that we justify this kind of stuff. This is the human condition. There ain't no deception like self-deception. We are prone to deceive others and ourselves without objective and established safeguards. The addiction to power and fame and money is going to blind any of us. We're all susceptible to this, even propping up someone beyond their capabilities. And that's what we saw. What do we do about it?

How do you do this? Millions of people are vulnerable due to his obvious impairment last night. You see that.

Everybody sees it. Millions of people stand in the way. I mean, if you got somebody who is, if you have somebody who is driving and they're impaired, whoever's in their path is vulnerable. And if you can't get them to pull over the car, they're going the wrong way down the interstate, you have to make a decision at the point, are you going to step out of the car and tuck and roll?

Or are you just going to careen right into a ditch or an oncoming semi or something on your own? Are we there yet as a country? You tell me, because what we saw last night is alarming. It's not just alarming to those who don't particularly support Joe Biden. It's alarming to people who did. If you watch CNN and MSNBC and all these others who are really in the tank for the Democrat party, if you watch that afterwards, they were in full blown panic mode. The pressure on Jill Biden is going to intensify.

I watched it on social media. I could just see it just going. It's going to intensify because she knows. The wife knows.

Okay. The husband, the spouse, the children know when somebody is impaired. They know. Now the question is, what is she going to do about it? And I saw that video of her helping her husband off the stage. Let's go to his head and say, yeah, you answered every question.

That is not something you say to the leader of the free world. After a debate, you fist pound, you say, you knocked out of the park, honey, whatever. But you know, I, my wife has come off the stage. My wife lives with severe disabilities. Both legs are gone.

80 something surgeries. She's had a tough go, but she comes off the stage after seeing it. I have never in my entire life with her said, yeah, Hey, you're saying every song. If she, if she blew a chart, I'll say, Hey, you blew a chart, you know, kind of thing. And she certainly said it to me, you know, what, where were you drop that?

You know, that's the normal kind of thing after this, but you don't say, yeah, you answered every question. And as she's helping him off those stage off those steps. And I'm thinking how much longer until she steps up and helps him off the world stage. Because this is the place we're in right now. Protection of an impaired loved one and everyone that's in their path is the number one task of being a caregiver. That's the, that's not the number one motivator. That's just the number one task. You have got to protect them and people around them if necessary. Caregiving is heartbreaking.

Those of you who are doing it right now, you know that it can be very heartbreaking, but when you're an enabler, it makes it even more painful. And that's what I wanted to introduce into the conversation today. I want to go to Vin and Charlotte and he wants to chime in on this. Vin, how are you feeling? Yes, sir. Hi, Peter. How are you today?

Yes. Can you hear me? Hi, Peter. I can, I can hear you fine. How are you feeling? I always ask everybody who calls me, how are you feeling? I'm fine. I'm fine. And I hope you are too. Oh, I'm just precious. Tell me why you want to chime in on this. Okay.

I'm not going to hold you too long. Last night I watched the highlights of the debate with Biden and Trump. I saw what Nightline put on the air. I missed the actual debate because I was at work, but to make a long story short, I did see Biden's response and Trump's response on some of the questions. And I was pretty shocked at what I saw as far as how Biden responded and very concerned about his health. At one point I thought, I'm like, my God, I hope he doesn't fall over.

And, and you know what? I mean, I I, I felt that there was something mentally wrong with him. I know they said that he had a cold, but I also know that it was 99 degrees just this Wednesday here in Charlotte. I know it was high in DC as well.

And I didn't see any cold symptoms like coughing, sneezing or sore throat. He basically, he basically could not answer the questions correctly. Oh, let me ask you, let me ask you a question. What kind of work do you do?

Okay. I, I do work in IT and I also work at, I work at a store as well. So you work with the public?

Oh yeah. All the time. Now, have you ever, have you ever had to go to work when you've had a cold? Yes, I have, but it wasn't like a, a strong cold, maybe a minor, like a sore throat or something like that. But you still had to go to work.

Yeah, I was able to go to work. Yeah. You, did you have all these brain freezes while you were doing your cold? No, no, that's, that's what I'm saying. This, go ahead, go ahead. We, we know, we know what's going on. We've known this for several years. Oh yeah.

But, but now we all see it. But again, I ask who's really, who's in the driver's seat with this? I mean, if the person who's impaired is not willing to, to make, most people don't want to give up their car keys willingly until they have an accident.

True. What kind of accident is the President of the United States going to make? That's a good question and here, and here's my thoughts on that.

As I told one of my coworkers last night, when they vote, they better take a good look at the running mate because that might be who takes in charge. Make a long story short, Biden, if there's a mental issue that could take his life or at least make him not fit to even do anything anymore, it could happen at any moment. I mean, this guy could go to sleep tomorrow and not wake up the next day. We don't know. I mean, he could indeed.

They have. Listen, we're up against a hard break, Vin, and I want you to know, I appreciate you chiming in because it gave us an opportunity to get in the show. Hey, you go to work with a cold. That's not the point. The point is, is this appropriate? And we're going to talk some more of that when we come back. This is Peter Rosaburger. Thanks, Vin, for the call. Truth Talk Live.

We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosaburger in for Robby and Stu and the usual suspects and glad to have you with us. 866-34-TRUTH. If you want to be a part of the program, 866-34-TRUTH. That's 3-4-8-7-8-8-4. And I want to just finish up.

We'll go back to the phones here in just a moment. Vin made a great point in the last block where he said, you know, he had to go to work with a cold. Everybody knows, I got a cold today. We've all done that. And so if the man had a cold, he could have come out last night and said, hey, I got a cold.

My voice sounds raspy. That's called self-awareness. That's called people not trying to gaslight and say, no, no, there's nothing wrong with me. But you know what?

There is something wrong. Now the question is, what are we going to do about it? And who, who, who is the person that we need to look at as a country? And I've said, I've maintained this from day one, that it was Dr. Biden, Dr. Jill Biden.

And she is the one that is closest. And sometimes you need to just pull aside and say, it's time to go home. It's time to quit.

And you can take the politics out of this. This has nothing to do with this, has something to do with being a caregiver, a responsible caregiver. And what I'm asking you to look at is some of you are going to be, are facing this right now in your family. And virtually every one of us will face this, where it's time to look at somebody we love and say, it's time to turn over the keys.

It's time to do this. I'm sorry. I hate it for you, but you're doing the responsible thing.

You're putting other people's safety ahead of your ahead of your own desires. And this is what is required for us as caregivers to have those kinds of conversation. My father doesn't drive.

My mother doesn't drive. It's okay. They're okay.

I know they miss it and I know they'd like it, but they don't. And we've all been there. And right now, Gracie's not driving, but that has nothing to do with it because I have hand controls for her, but it's just, right now, it's just a little easier if I do everything. And she's cool.

She's cool. But when, when the time's right and she's ready, it's all, it's all good. But we had the conversation and the fact that the country is now having to have this conversation should have never happened. The only reason we're having it like this is because finally the whole curtain's been pulled back and the world now sees what people have been hiding and enabling and gaslighting.

And this is a very dangerous place. And if we don't speak with clarity to this issue, what are the consequences? If we don't speak with great clarity and authority, what are the consequences? Now, none of us have the ability to go up to the White House, knock on the door and say, Hey, y'all, you know, cut it out. But we do have the ability to vote. And we do have the ability to tell other people and introduce this conversation. Everybody's talking about politics right now. And I get that. But to my knowledge, I'm the only one coming at this from a caregiver standpoint. And so now I'm bringing you into that conversation.

I'm giving you vocabulary of these are better questions to ask. If people are not comfortable with politics, everybody gets all mad. You know, I get all that. But my question is, how did we get here? Who's responsible? And how do we transition out of this? What's the next action step?

And what's the lesson learned? And I will look no further than the first lady who knows this man and clearly is, you know, I mean, the Babylon Bee's got a thing right now that he comes off the stage and that's a good boy gives her husband a treat. That's a good boy. That's a good boy.

That's the Babylon Bee right now doing this. It's there. It's out there now. It's out there now.

We can't undo this. So anyway, that's my two cents worth. And if you want to see more about what I do and hear more about the fog of caregivers and understand what I bring to the table here, you can go out to my website. It's PeterRosenberger.com. That's Rosenberger. That's Irish. No, it's not Irish. R-O-S-E-N-B-E-R-G-E-R. PeterRosenberger.com.

You see the books and so forth. All right. Let's go to Jane real quick in Toledo. Jane, good afternoon.

Welcome to the program. How are you feeling? Jane, you with me? Well, Jane, give you one more second here, then we'll go to Charles here.

All right. Let's go. Let's move on from Jane. We lost Jane somewhere.

Charles in Dayton, Ohio. Charles, good afternoon. How are you feeling?

Okay. A little bit stressed. I've been a caregiver for my wife. Basically before COVID, she had a reaction to flu shot about a year or two before COVID. And she's been staying inside except for when she's had to go to the doctor or the emergency room, something like that. And last June, she had COPD coming on for a while. She's a smoker. She went to pulmonologist last June and he detected what he thought was a nodule and she went to Indianapolis and they said she had first stage cancer nodule. And she's had five radiation treatments in between there now. And she's been back to the radiologist oncologist.

All right. Charles, I don't want to cut you off, but we're going to run out of time here. What's the immediate issue you're struggling with? The immediate thing is that after all these years and all this stress and everything, she's gotten here recently in the last week or so. She has gotten real mad at our daughters for trivial things. She doesn't want to see them, doesn't want to talk to them. She talked about she doesn't know if she wants to be around me or not. She wants to be somewhere else. She doesn't want to be around me or not.

She wants to be somewhere by herself. She's even said some things about harming herself. Have you talked about this with her doctor? Not with any of them. She has very little to do with her doctor. She's got a primary.

She's seen one time the pulmonologist a couple times and the radiologist and oncologist a couple times. All right. Well, listen, let me give you a quick thing because I don't want to run out of time and cut this off. Here's the deal. This is not a situation that gets better on its own. But this is also not a situation you may be able to change. But there are medical professionals who can deal with this. And if you think that she is a harm to herself, then you have the responsibilities.

Like I said throughout this program, that's the caregiver's task is to protect that impaired loved one and everyone in their path. And so you have that responsibility to make the call to her doctor and say, look, this is what she is saying. And if she doesn't like you, if she gets mad at you and she gets all those kinds of things, that's fine.

She can get happy in the same shoes she got mad in. But your responsibility is to protect her. And if she's looking at harming herself, then what is your responsibility? You got to raise your hand and say something and you got to call somebody and you got to call.

You start with her primary care doctor's office and say, look, I need to have a conversation here. I'm a little bit overwhelmed. I don't know what to do.

And they can point you to places that resources they may want to see or they may, they may have, you may have to look, there may be a situation where law enforcement gets involved. I don't know. Cause I don't know all your circumstances, but I know this.

It will not get better. If you don't say something, if you just let it just kind of keep going now, you were, I think it would be, are your daughters older? They're they're adults now. Yeah.

They're there and they're 40, 50. Then it would be good, good conversation to have with your daughters, pull them aside and say, Hey, look, this is what's going on. Um, and it's been recommended to me that I call, you know, mom's doctor and have this conversation. And then you could do this, have a group conference. You could have a group conversation about this. Her behavior is obviously being noticed by others, but if she's at that point where she's making threats to harm herself, this is not going to resolve itself on its own. So it's time for you to raise your hand and say something. And if you want to bring your daughters involved, get your pastor involved, whatever, but don't just sit there and just blow it off and say, well, she just, this is her being hurt. Then, then you've stepped into the enabling thing.

And then somebody is going to get hurt. Yeah. You track it with me. Okay. Yeah. All right. You got your marching orders. First, first call is call your doctors.

Maybe then call your pastor and then get on the horn very quickly with, with her doctor. This thing. Don't, don't, don't wait.

Don't wait on it. Okay. Okay. I appreciate the culture.

I really do. All right, Jane, I think is back in Toledo, Ohio. Uh, Jane, good afternoon.

How are you feeling? We've got, we've got just, just two minutes. So, yeah.

Um, but the curtain is being pulled back on Biden. That's a good thing because, you know, before a problem should be addressed, it has to be identified. And so prayers for him, he needs the Lord. I'm calling, um, just to encourage any caregivers as yourself.

Um, and if I have a disability, I don't have support and I know, you know, different people in nursing homes that it's a very difficult time. So you are much, much, and I know it's a sacrifice and you may have to sacrifice even more, but it's immeasurable. Um, what you do when you reach out and do that, because a lot of people fall through the stress. And, um, so I just want to express that to you and anybody else and encourage anybody else to, you know, step up and, you know, breathe out of it as well. That means a lot, Jane. It really does. And I thank you so much for the call.

I really do appreciate that. You know, Jesus said very clearly that we're going to stand before him and he's going to say, sick, naked, thirsty, hungry, prison stranger. And he's, he's pretty serious about it. Sick, naked, hungry, thirsty, prison, stranger. When did we see you like this, Lord? What as much as you do to the least of these, you do unto me.

He's pretty serious about it. And, uh, and so I think that, uh, Jane's words were very timely and, um, there are people out there that, that need to hear the great gospel in the midst of their suffering. And if we don't walk in it boldly and confidently, confidently, we don't have to go brashly, just confident, knowing that we could speak with clarity into people's heartache. We can speak with clarity into people's heartache and this political issue, all the unsettledness that's going on. We can do these things because of the power that we have as children of God who has given it.

He resides in us and we can do this, but it starts with us raising our hands and say, Lord, send me. Okay. This is Peter Rosenberger, Peter rosenberger.com. I hope you go out and take a look at the site, Peter rosenberger.com. Thanks so much for giving me an hour today here on truth talk live. We'll see you next time. Another program powered by the truth network.

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