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June 16, 2021 3:00 am

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June 16, 2021 3:00 am

From our broadcast on June 12, 2021.  Can we as caregivers cultivate gratitude in our lives regardless of our loved one condition(s)? 

“Gratitude is not only greatest of virtues, but the parent of all the others.” – Marcus Tullius Cicero

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And this is caregiver. This Roseburg this is the nation's number is a family caregiver or the 65 million Americans right now taking care of the vulnerable of what somebody with a chronic impairment somebody who's dealing with Alzheimer's or some student with autism. Doesn't matter whatever their situation is there's always a caregiver. How are you feeling how are you doing what's going on with the 888-589-8840 888-589-8840 if you want to be a part of the show whatever's on your heart to share.

We do have a topic that we introduce every week and we talk about, usually with the song that that connects to that topic but I I will always want to stop in case you do something that is just you don't if it's off, it's never off-topic. If you're a caregiver. Whatever's going on with you. That's what we want to talk about as it relates to the caregiving world with those of us who are doing this time in my 35th year as a caregiver through a the medical nightmare still going on still doing it. I am right here in the trenches with it, but these are things that I've learned over a lifetime and I want to offer a life led to fellow caregivers. You don't have to go through some of the quagmires that I did and this is how we strengthen one another. This is how we build each other up, get stronger. We pulled together we learn from each other. We can we do a deleted caregiver support group out here where we live and in the Rockies out in Montana. The little church were a service music minister and out of the Valley and we sit around the table and we just over a cup of coffee, throw out ideas and strengthen one another.

We we don't have this crazy agenda. Were we got just make sure we plow through something whatever's in our hearts whatever's on your mind. I speak fluent caregiver and we want to extend that to you all here. This is the place where you can come and speak in your language as a caregiver and be hurt in your language as a caregiver.

And that's the whole purpose of the show as we do this to strengthen one another pull each other to Christ. I will step over to the caregiver keyboard caregiver keyboard for those you knew the show their people always join the show each week. I like to go to keyboard and just play a song that is going to connect to the topic that I want to discuss today and hopefully if nothing else you can remember the tune and will go through your mind throughout the day and help anchor you as you face whatever you can. We face today and we still course start the show early the morning. A lot of caregivers are up, but their love ones are not necessarily. Excuse me. That's not covert that's hayfever. I was out mowing yesterday so don't don't be alarmed and opened a mask of your radio. I go to Everett caregiver keyboard years or so for that.

If you know the song feel free to call in 888-589-8840_for the course. This is almost too easy. It's almost too easy.

But that's okay because it's great so I that is our caregiver song of the day and it's going to play into what we are going to talk about today. Now I want to go to. Also, will you be description will tell the slings and together again. If you have something that is a bit off this topic that's okay will will talk about to the best of our abilities here.

Psalm 127, 132. Do you know the Scripture, at least the first half of one.

If you know the back half of Psalm 127 want to double read in the new American standard version 1st. Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it unless the Lord guards the city, the watchman keeps awake in vain. Okay you free without now look at verse two is vain for you to rise up early to retire late to eat the bread of painful labors, for he gives to his beloved, even in his sleep review conducted those two thoughts together. But let's go back up and look at listen to it in the message. Sometimes I go and read the mess out. I read in several different translations to make sure I'm really grasping the nuances of this if God doesn't build the house, the builders only build shacks if God doesn't guard the city the night watchman might as well nap is useless to rise up early to rise early and go to bed late and work your fingers to the bone.

Don't you know he enjoys giving rest of those he loves.

Right what is that have to do with being a caregiver to think about what we do every day. My question is to you.

Are you building this. Are you working yourself as good as the Scripture says, work your worried fingers to the bone.

Unless God is doing this, the builders only build shacks unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build. If God doesn't guard the city. The night watchman might as well nap more is American center said unless the Lord guards the city, the watchman keep keep some of the watchman keeps awake in vain is vain for you to rise up early to retire late to eat the bread of painful labors, for he gives to his beloved, even in sleep.

It is useless to rise early, go to bed late and work your worried fingers to the bone.

Don't you know he and Joyce giving rest of those he loves that heavenly view all the work in your worried fingers to the bone. How many of you will are pushing yourself to enhance human levels. To do this.

That's what we want to discuss today on how to push back against that you may think it's one thing will be to stop worrying. We just kinda get our heads on straight and stop worrying and whatever know it's it's a little bit more involved absolute more intentional that and I want to spend some time on that today because I get that I've done that I've I would yield push myself to later the night, get up early in the morning when even before coming on the show today come to a laundry at home because of the I get the feeling is a caregiver laundries is still probably one of the most time-consuming things that we do, but it but it is useless to do that. Scripture says and work your worried fingers to the bone to take a moment and look down at your worried fingers okay do they look worried your hands look worried. It's useless to do this, don't you know he enjoys giving rest of those he loves, and that's the message that this going to permeate throughout this show today and really do all of her shows because unless the Lord is doing this in building this in your life in my life. All this work that were doing is very all of this is for not. That's it. It's it's useless for the night watchman, he must just take a nap. So what we do about this. How do we counteract that feeling that that pushes us how do we speak to ourselves in the middle the night we were having a late night conversation with the ceiling fan was that look 888-589-8840 888-589-8840 if you know the song you will weigh in on this topic, dispute arose murder. This is hope for the caregiver will be right. This Peter Rosenberg and my 3 1/2 decades as a caregiver. I've spent my share of nights in the hospital sleeping and waiting room some foldout cot shares. Even the floor sometimes on sofas and a few times in the doghouse. But let's still talk about that as caregivers we have to sleep it uncomfortable places but we don't have to be miserable. We use pillows for my

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It's counterintuitive for us to lean on these principles of Scripture when were in the throes of caregiver thinking ahead is the joy of the Lord, give me strength to do what I'm doing.

How does that work and that's what the show is all about is is digging deeper than that.

So that we, too, as caregivers can plug into that great strength that that unfathomable unquenchable inexhaustible love of God that allows us to do what we do.

If God doesn't build the house, the builder only builds shacks.

Psalm 127 uses artless go to phone lines and see who knows the song and who is and who is engaged with this song I just played the course it was. It was embarrassingly easy, so I know you to get this out but I Jeff in Memphis hello. Sorry about that a little connection. From there Jeff go hit just wanted tell you how much I appreciate your program and your love for the Lord.

And why not, God has blessed me with a wonderful wife to and I know the name of that song I what is the name of this song it give thanks give what you thankful for today. Jeff I am so thankful for the sovereignty of God over creation, providence and salvation. Well, that's a great great thing to be thankful for and I'm glad you glad you knew that song and and I appreciate very much your listening and the encouragement you give to me as I continue doing this show.

I love that song and knows been a favorite to millions upon millions of millions of people but it's one that that is particularly meaningful to me and give thanks with a grateful heart, so that thank you for that. Jeff, thank you very much for getting that to Margie in Texas. Margie good morning, how are you feeling I got my mom I got my Dragon log.

I thought her hardest letter family doctor had taken gate.

I'm not a doctor.

I have stated a Holiday Inn Express, but I'm not a doctor many times in the hospital with grace you have been called Dr. Rosenberg and Attila mama cranial proctologist but don't don't don't repeat until that the nurse one time and in she said you Dr. Lessig cranial proctologist and she just looked at me kind of funny. And then she started riding on her notepad. The house like I just let it slide it gear so you know, I'd I good girl.

I just do the best I can with what I got. Margie appreciate you call it what you grateful for today your own mom take a creaking from the heart out of character and provide now, but the good Lord knows where she's going to say her name is Mary hundred and seven character you before yes ma'am hundred and seven that's quite astonishing you look at what's happening in her life since since she was alive on this earth back in 1914 I know who was present by the Garfield was Pres. who was president elected no doubt hard to try to God help you better find your way down the way I know how to find Hartley's gate never had a wolf until hundred 77-year-old woman tears into you want to tell me God bless you because I know there be other college commenting and make my case it can right now, but the Lord fight in my car you get A black nights are. Thank you I will and you do as well and thank you so much for lists of the show and for: give thanks that is our song today and you know and now I am strong forcing him because of this second part of that course would we repeat most of the repeat that, but a long time ago that don't say this to anybody.

Okay yelp keep this just here in the family just real quiet life, but Milo Lefevre reported that any added a couple versus a bit. A couple of lines to that and it I think you got it little bit of trouble. Don't say this don't repeat this at all okay. Just just keep this to access and out because the writer of the song that may be just an urban legend, but he put it, and this is a I am home. Let the bounce see I am because of the love that with the six say I'm whole with the bouncy I am free and I loved it because that is how we as caregivers push back on all these things, you know it is hard to be miserable when you're being great to know that.

Try it sometime.

Try to be miserable and then start being intensely grateful and see what happens to unless the Lord builds the house, the builders only builds shacks. If God is a guard the city the night watch of Muslim that uses to rise early, go to bed late and work your worried fingers to the bone.

Don't you know he enjoys giving rest of those he loves them as a caregiver.

Have you ever had trouble going to sleep. Have you ever stayed up late as I said early segment and just had a conversation with the ceiling fan when your mind just will not shut off. How would you like a sure fired, tested, proven 100% way to push back against that and be able to go to sleep. I do like it with guitar, but that the next segment but if that's all. If you know that some and I think most of you do what you call in and tell me why that's important to you. 888-589-8848 885-8984 me and tell me what that means to you. Why is it important to you.

What is it mean to you and how does it help you as a caregiver because I think this is where our battle is for caregivers. It's not in all the crazy things we have to do and we do, but it's learning to retrain her heart to stay in a place of gratitude to stay in a place of of giving thanks even in the midst of these things, especially the midst of these things that we can give thanks for it. Is there something you grateful for and I have learned that in our life. You know, even in countless hospital stays and countless rooms in the hospital would songs like this would permeate through that through the pain through the anguish of the fear and all those kinds of things now that the weak say I am strong, but the poor say I am rich.

Why where we say this because of what he's done.

If we can retrain our eyes to see the bigger picture. If we can retrain our eyes to see beyond this, and to anchor ourselves and something far more substantive then the immediate heartache that were dealing with. It settles our souls and gives us the wherewithal to go to the next step or even totally down and rest. The unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build what does it mean to assist caregivers when unless he is doing this through us. We labor in vain to do it unless the Lord guards the city, the watchmen keeps awake and vague. Buzz will take a nap as enemies going to come out.

It is vain to rise up early. It's useless to rise up early and was reading back and forth from these different versions and translations. It's useless to rise up early go to bed late and work your worried fingers to the bone. It's useless to do it, I think, but he was a caregiver. How many times are you working yourself to the bone and it's useless to do it unless God is doing it in you and is doing this through you. You're fighting a battle you cannot win, you must will be making sand castles on the beach. It's going to overtake his or something more going on in this song says that there is an now let the weak say I am strong, but the poor say I am rich, and now that the sick say I am whole.

And now, but the bound say I am free. This is how we strengthen ourselves and take on the next challenge that wakes us which were sophisticated, but it's retraining. I'm was falsely do not be conformed transformed by the renewing of your mind. This is how we do edit start sometimes with a very simple song. The song is meaningful to you to everyone. 888-589-8840 a caregiver you're on a hold of Peter Rosenberger 888-589-8840 888-589-8840 you will be a part of the short talk about Psalm 127, 132 God doesn't build a house.

The builder only builds shack if God is a Garden City.

The night watchman minus will take a nap. It's useless to rise early, go to bed late at work. Your worried fingers to the bone.

Don't you know he how he enjoys giving rest of those he loves.

Do you need rest. I did a firm is missing Rabbi and he was on the show we did whole thing on grieving that a lot of people just really responded to you hope you heard it here on this this show and were going to do another talk on this on Sabbath rest on what that looks like from eight from a Jewish mindset.

What is what is that look like that because this is a uniquely Jewish thing that God did Sabbath keep the Sabbath holy. What is that mean what is a Sabbath rest mean but is caregivers do we rest. We understand the concept of rest. I know I struggle with this, but of God doesn't do this were all the work they were doing and we sometimes push ourselves and without even taking a rest without doing anything and we spent sleepless nights fretting and worry over things that are pointless were not to be able to change it unless God is involved with this. This is what the text says and I gave you teaser the last section there that if what would we be with what's a good way to fight back against the insomnia in the middle of the night and I gave this tip to Fred about who wakes up every night in pain and middle the night and this and spends a lot of time in prayer. This exit try this when you do this as well to see if edge and she just thought it was a marvelous idea and so she's will dress out of a follow back and see how she did, but a friend of mine told me about this and it's a great technique. He said start with the alphabet and go through the alphabet. Every letter that alphabet and give thanks to something that starts with that for something to start about letter so you know you you you start with a goblet to see and so I can get a little gnarly with QX and Z, but there's a there are scriptures that can apply to that you can do some if you get to senior stuck and you don't have anything. The starts of the sea to be grateful for and go to Zephaniah 317 and which says the Lord thy God in the midst of these mighty my mom course to be a lot and in and is one of the things it anchors us but try it sometime and see it and if you get all the way through, and you're still awake. Guess what Qubec do it again do to get into you drift off and limiting something there, something about drifting off to sleep.

Being grateful that will change your life and this cost no money.

You don't have to go anywhere you wanted to go see anybody do is there's there's no nothing involved other than you just laying there and being grateful and you can you be amazed all the things that you can find in your life to be grateful. You know, it's hard to be miserable when you grateful and I'm not discounting the pain that you're in and the sorrow that you carry. We carry it to we get it. Grace and I both get it. We understand that's why love it when she sings the song and and she sings it so beautifully give thanks with a grateful heart, give thanks to the holy one given Jesus Christ his son and now let the week say I am strong but it's hard for the week to start say the strong until they learn to give thanks and see what God is doing to help transcend these things knowing that this broken world we live in is being redeemed even as we speak and we may not see all the things in this lifetime that we want to see this means that happy doesn't mean it's not going to happen and so we in the meantime, give thanks to Patricia in Jacksonville about try that only with the alphabet gratitude alphabet Patricia in Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Patricia good morning, how are you feeling great. That wonderful and spoken one other time related married to an invariant man of God, and we had forced on and then we got only daughter that she was below 100 cephalic and Lenten expected to live dated held her up to the Lord said father thank you for giving her daughter. We understand you're taking her back everything. If you would have us raise certain your honor and glory you think it and so he did, and I'm happy to report that Kayla is 41 years old so I will LOL yeah what else get it. It we had actually picked it out for number four son that Lenny popped out to be a boy at .Mac now I'm just going door that went away to them anyway. You happen to know when you get thank was first recorded that I do not know well in my mind I'm trying to remember when it came out, and let my circumstances were that Taylor was born in 1980, and I suspect that Solomon did come out a few years later when I was still very burdened with her care and she was just that touch and go thing that first so I don't know seven or eight years of her life. We never knew when she would have a massive seizure and go to the Lord so they can time for me and I dated would always say to me daddy let's just get, thank we have a daughter we have a daughter, and we have four wonderful none and later at some point I think it might been like on her own significant birth today what what they were all significant but okay. I can remember being in that in their congregation and we were first introduced to that song and it just became nothing found when I would get down and discourage trying to manage the four boys and and having to care for Became. You should see everything you will play leasing use when you speak from your heart.

I really do remember ending man the time that Pleasant Ridge is on and I remember it yet weeping, weeping, hard and that that became my way out that that are having, cannot I'm not in there I can't do that.

I have a hell of a lot head that came today. The lake actually from 1 to 4 and that allowed me to get out of the house and not being in Aaron and then pick up my boys at school or preschool or whatever and that would just turn her head which was a large weight like a gallon of milk and turn and she didn't get a shot well because the medical where it was shot can't possibly going to be blind you will be. They told us she wouldn't even be able to set the bottle that all of that pretty strong that she learn to entertainers. Now that he was nine months old. She was always on her back on an air ring that she would throw her body yeah and grab that soft sculpture mobile and get Ariel and you know me and she was animated. The last thing in and of course my other concerns were what is this, due to the boy had been encouraged that you know not to bring her home when she was first born. Don't take her home near here. Other children will suffer. Your marriage will follow up our son will go off the deep and get involved in all kinds of horrible things you can't possibly family. This must not be using very there that believe God. I believe this was this was 40 years ago. Yeah, you know this looked to be reminded to you when people tell you to follow the signs.

We have a culture right now. The things they know what they're doing. Medically speaking, but unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain to build and you guys followed your heart Scripture sustaining you along the way and 40 years later. What a testimony. What a story and Patricia, thank you for sharing this with us your somebody's been in the trenches for a very long time and you done it and thank you very much for this.

Give thanks with a grateful heart, grateful for you this morning speed. Roseburg will you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident, leading to 80 surgeries in both legs and became it. I questioned why God allowed something so brittle to happen to me but over time, my questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing with help more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis.

We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of this is to point others to Christ. The source of my help and strength, please visit standing with to learn more and participate in lifting others that standing I'm Gracie. I am staining with help. This 80 589-8840 888-5888 40 and let's go to Cheryl in Ohio. Cheryl good morning, how are you feeling well. I'm just precious.

Do you have a radio on Cheryl was here little bit of echo there. It's a little bit better but I still here to tell me what you got going on. It's okay EEGs what I believe had PTSD correct has how how was he doing now are you doing this for the mother told me there's nothing that I scream can't help but feel better not miss a really good forest, but it does it does taste pretty good. I've got a significant buzz on this foldable trumpet. John holds if I come back to you here and see if we clear the lot. Is that okay though there goes no it's still there.

I'm not sure what's going on with that, but there's a significant buzz you know what you done your part just just grateful that the stuff got there to you and you keep taking care of your grandchildren instead in the gap for your son and I know that this is hard.

That's it you. Here's this young man who signed up, put on the uniform and a lot of the things that these young men and women come home with our lifetime. Issues of devastation and we we are all well served to remember that families have to often step of the gap for these young men and women who put on the uniform just like they stood in the gap for us and thank you for that Cheryl and thank you for for his life and for these grandchildren that you're caring for as your son struggles with with the journey that he does and I do appreciate very much you you shared that with this and you want take some time off today.

Just been a stressful week. If you need an ice cream cone. You need an ice cream cone.

Okay it's it it's all good. Shirley in Mississippi. Shirley good morning, how are you feeling right now. I am very thankful for my pastor who is also my week. We have a prayer thing together. But this man, and I'm not gonna give his name because he probably wouldn't want me to take care of as well as hospice, Carson. He took care of his wife who had cancer first seven man do so much for one woman and my whole life and and she came. And we're so grateful for that. And so that's what I'm not like that sound map numb nuts because I'm old, I'm 85 years old so any style you ever put on well and that's okay because those those souls that have submitted a few years out of the ones that stick with this earthly backs. But anyway thank you and good luck with thank you very much. Thank you very much you it's always a treat to hear your voice and thank you so much for that. I do love that song as well and and we have you know we have such a treasure trove in music. We have to pull on and that's why do this and I know that that you're getting up early in the morning of Saturday mornings and playing the keyboard for you guys may not be what what a lot of people do for radio, but this is what I do for myself. This is what I do for my fellow caregivers as a way of just calling us down and settling our hearts though so that we can face the day.

Unite in a healthier matter. You don't help the caregivers make better caregivers if were not healthy that everything were doing is is for not just stressing ourselves at this.

What the Scripture says if God doesn't build a house builder build checks though they labor in vain. It is vain for you to rise up early. It says that to retire late into eat the bread of painful labors. Okay, it's pain to do all this. If you're just pushing yourself and pushing yourself and pushing yourself it's vain for you to do this. This is what the text says you supposed to rise early, go to bed late. Work your worried fingers to the bone.

Don't you know he enjoys giving rest of those he loves to finish the Scripture with me come unto me all you are weary and and I will give you okay I know that a lot of you are mouthing this work. Sometimes you can even say the worst because the tears fill your estimate I get that I understand but still the text says come unto me all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest and rest is different than sleep okay we can visually get to sleep. We will fall over sleep, rest is different. Rest is that confidence that this is not all up to you rest is that confidence of knowing that he who began a good work in you is faithful to complete.

And guess what he who began a good work in your loved one is faithful to complete that you can trust your love one with them.

You will be a good steward.

You will do the best that you can as this, but you rest in the knowledge that no that is what they had to color color in the beginning was grateful for the sovereignty of God. A lot of people get little nervous about the sovereignty of God, and they want to pick apart or dissected or get into free choice at this at whatever free will and okay put all that aside, if you want to understand the sovereignty of God is much as we can since he remains a pastor friend of mine gave me this great great sets if he is Lord at all that he is Lord of all and that's that's all I can process sometimes about the sovereignty of God. He's Lord of all. If he's Lord at all. He's Lord of all. Even your love. This is wonderful woman called a minute ago from Jacksonville Beach over a daughter with hydrous cephalic issues and and seizure issues and everything else in the in the medical community renters to go home and we just leave the charter don't take this Jehovah to ruin your life well guess what did, nor did it ruin the life of her family. It was challenging still is there heart aches that we endure and carry, but ruling our lives. Well, that takes off a lot of faith to believe that something temporary can ruin your eternal life, and that's what I did this all this morning.

Give thanks with a grateful heart because of what he's done for us now.

Let the weak say I am strong now, let the poor say I'm rich now. Let the six.

They have a whole now let the bouncy I'm free. This is what we do as believers to anchor ourselves in something eternal as we struggle with the temporary and the temporary may last a lifetime certainly has for that caller and it certainly has for Gracie and me 38 years angry. She's been hurt, but she still sings the song why because there's a greater truth that anchors us. If God doesn't build the house, the builders only build checks if God doesn't guard the city.

The nightwatchman might as well take a nap.

It's useless to rise early and go to bed late and work your worried fingers to the bone. Don't you know how he enjoys giving rest of those he loves the Lord thy God in the midst of the is my right there in the midst of those late nights where you are struggling and a lot of hot tears and feeling your eyes, don't you know how he enjoys giving rest of those he loves. It takes a leap of faith to trust God is giving you rest in this, even though you are so discouraged. This is why do the show speaking to myself here and I spent a lot of nights just in turmoil modern-day state because nobody was way that I can understand that I'm determined that I'm going to do that now for you information that is helpful to give you that conviction that we can live a calm, healthy heresy for joyful rest life even while serving as a character. How do I know this is a 30 year but hopefully hope More information download a free podcast be a part of what were doing.

See you next week.

This is John Butler and I produce hope for the caregiver with Peter Rosenberger. Some of you know the remarkable story of Peter's wife Gracie and recently Peter talk to Gracie about all the wonderful things that have emerged from her difficult journey. Take a listen Gracie. When you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach.

Did you ever think that inmates would help you do that, not in a million years. When you go to the facility run by core civic and you see the faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you have helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and arms everything when you see all this. What do you make me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is to be locked someplace where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out course, being in the hospital so much and so long and so that these men are so glad that they get to be doing as as one man said something good family with my hands. Did you know before you became an amputee that parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled now had no idea and I thought a peg leg. I thought of wooden legs.

I never thought of titanium and carbon lags and flex the sea legs and all that.

I never thought about that as you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people. Now walk there, providing the means for the supplies to get over there. What is it do to you.

Just on the heart level. I wish I could explain to the world. What I see in here and I wish that I could be able to go and say the this guy right here Denise go to Africa with that. I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me have to leave. I don't want to leave them. II feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like that we have a common bond that would've never expected that only God could put together. Now that you've had experience with it what you think of the faith-based programs. The core civic offers.

I think they're just absolutely awesome and I think every prison out there should have faith-based programs like this because the return rate of the men that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know about this one are.

It is just an amazingly low rate compared to those who don't happen and I think that says so much that has anything to do with me just has something to do with God using somebody broken to help other broken people.

If people want to donate or use prosthetic limbs, whether from a loved one who passed away or you know somebody well-groomed you donated some of your own for the did how to how they do that please go to standing with staining with Thanks Grace

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