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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to the program. You are not listening to the voice of Pastor Ernie Sanders. You're listening to his highly unpaid assistant, Pastor Joe Larson. Pastor Ernie had a family emergency tonight and it is my honor and pleasure to sit in for him and be just for the one night.

And start the program. We have with us a special guest, Jim Renacey, who is running for governor of Ohio. Jim, are you there? I'm here. How are you tonight, Pastor Larson?

I'm doing well, thank you. And we have tonight on the board to keep us out of trouble, hopefully. Keep everything running smoothly, the mighty Andrew. I'll try my best, Pastor Joe. We have him there.

We need him. And, Jim, what I'm going to do is after we do the Bible study, I'm going to have you just kind of introduce yourself. I didn't have time to get that information. So when we start after Bible study, I'll just have you start with your own introduction.

But for now, I want to bring up something that's terribly important to me. As you all saw on the Internet today, they are calling for the last battle of Maripal there in Ukraine. The Ukrainian Marines got on the web and said they are totally surrounded by Russian forces. It is going to be death for some of us, captivity for the rest, and anyone whose limbs are not torn off is ordered to fight. The next Marine Brigade are running out of ammunition.

They are almost totally depleted there. And the soldiers of the unit actually have all been killed. And they said the battle tonight is being carried out by cooks and clerks, drivers and the musicians from their orchestra. They said tonight will be the last battle.

There is no ammunition. And I think what we ought to do, if you would, all just pray with me for these brave men. They have put up one of the most valiant fights that I've ever heard in the history of warfare. They are fighting to defend their country. They have tried to get all their family and the citizens out. And this may be their last night, so please just join me in prayer. Dear Heavenly Father, right now this war is a little beyond my comprehension.

I have a long history of problems between different countries. But as always, it is the average man and woman who gets the brunt of all problems in the world, the wars, the disasters. And it's usually the soldier defending his country. And as I hear the story of these brave men, Lord, I would just ask you to be with them tonight. I know there are many Christians there in Ukraine, that you would be with these men, that you would strengthen them. And Lord, if there is any way for them to be saved, if it be Thy will, that you could accomplish this. But as we watch these heroic men stand for their country, for their families, we just ask mercy, Father. And that just bless them in any way you can, Lord. I ask this in Jesus' precious, precious name. Amen. Amen. Just as Ernie and I are both veterans, and when I heard that tonight, I just had to do that. That's an incredible story of courage and bravery, and someday I think that's going to go down in the history books there. Jim, tonight we're going to, if you have your Bible with you, we're going to be in the book of Matthew, chapter 21.

We're going to do the story of Palm Sunday. Do you have your Bible with you? I didn't know if Ernie asked you to bring your Bible or not. No, they did not. I apologize. Oh, no problem. Okay, normally I have. All right, so if you have any questions along the way, jump in and ask.

Feel free. This is Jesus' triumphal entry there into Jerusalem. It's actually, Jesus is offering himself to Israel as their Messiah, as the son of David. And it begins, and when they drew nigh unto Jerusalem, that's Jesus and his apostles, and were come to Beth-edge at the Mount of Olives, then sent Jesus to disciples, saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her, loose them and bring them unto me.

And if any man say aught unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath needed them, and straightway he will send them. All this was done that might be fulfilled, which was spoken by the prophet, saying, Tell ye the daughter of Zion, Behold thy king, cometh unto thee meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the full of an ass. And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them, and brought the ass and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they sent him thereon.

I want to stop there. This is the only place in scripture, in the gospels, that mentions the she-ass and the colt. And we see this back in Zachariah, in the book of Zachariah, chapter 9, verse 9, some 400 plus years before the birth of Christ. And Zachariah says, Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion, O daughter of Jerusalem. Behold thy king cometh unto thee, he is just, and having salvation lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the full of an ass. Several hundred years, and again, when there's prophecy, prophecy fulfilled exactly how, exactly when, you know, it was given, and just for those that keep saying, Well the Bible, no, the Bible keeps proving itself over and over and over, and all these prophecies fulfilled exactly. God, when he says something, carries it through.

Now two things here. As Jesus is coming in, when a king went to war, he would ride a white horse. That's why in Revelation you see when Christ comes back, he's going to be pictured riding on a white horse, a war horse. But when a king goes to make peace, they ride on an ass, a sign of humility, coming in peace and meekness. So in this case, Jesus is coming, and he's coming riding upon this animal, this beast of burden. And this beast is carrying the Messiah, the King, the King of the Jews. Now, in a very great multitude spread their garments in the way. Others cut down branches from trees and strewn them in the way.

This is where we get Palm Sunday, because it was palm branches that they were cutting down, strewn in the way. And the multitude that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David! Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord!

Hosanna in the highest! And when he was come unto Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, Who is this? And the multitude said, This is Jesus, the prophet of Nazareth, of Galilee. Now, when they're calling out Hosanna, Hosanna actually is the Hebrew term meaning please save, or can be read as save us now. So son of David, and the Messiah was to be what? The son of David, out of the lineage of David, and would come to be what? The savior of Israel. So they're calling, they're saying to him as Christ comes, Save us now, son of David! Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord! Save us now, Hosanna.

So when you hear that word, that's what it means. Please save, or save us now. Then we have Jesus in verse 12, And Jesus went to the temple, and cast out them that sold, and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves. Now, this is the second time that Jesus has gone in and caused trouble with the moneychangers. And we'll read from the book of John chapter 2, starting in verse 13. Jesus cleanses the temple, and the Jews' Passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, and found in the temple those that sold oxen, and sheep, and doves, and the changers of money sitting. And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen, and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables, and said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence, make not my Father's house a house of merchandise. This was called righteous anger. Now, we see this picture all the time, this meek and mild Jesus. Everything's about the meek and mild Jesus, right? Well, he wasn't very meek and mild. He braided a small scourge, small cords.

In other words, he braided up a whip, and he went in and drove out. This was a large group of people, folks. This was big business. They had the doves, and the sheep, and the lambs, and oxen, and these tables were not card tables. These tables were large stone tables in the temple, carved stone tables, very heavy. They were meant to stay where they were placed by many men. And he tossed those around, threw them over, and chased them out.

You've got pictures. He must have presented quite a presence, because I figured there must have been anywhere from up to a dozen or more men at these tables, and they fled from him. And there were some temple guards that must have just backed off and said, Whoa, got out of the way. We are allowed to get angry, the Lord tells us in scripture. We are to what? Hate the things that God hates and love the things that God loves. And there are times that Jesus gives us an example here. Twice in the temple we can get angry. Now, he didn't hurt people.

He didn't put anybody in the hospital. But he sure upset the temple money system. He upset the Sadducees, the Pharisees.

He upset the whole apple cart. Righteous anger. And meek Jesus?

No, not always meek and mild. Jesus was capable of anger and showed it very clearly that day. And then in verse 13, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer, but ye have made it a den of thieves. And for that we go to the book of Isaiah in the chapter 56 of the book of Isaiah. And in verse 7, Even them will I bring to my holy mountain.

He's talking about bringing the people to him. And make them joyful in my house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar. For mine house shall be called a house of prayer for all people.

Again, here we have prophecy long before. Jesus talks about those that were coming that would love the name of the Lord. It would be his servants who would keep the Sabbath, keep his covenant.

My house is the house of prayer and the words for all people. Not just Jews, he would have said, would it be a house of prayer for what? The children of Israel. He didn't say the children of Israel.

He said my house will be a house of prayer for all people. And then we see in verse 14, And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple, and he healed them. And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple and saying Hosanna to the son of David, well they were sort of displeased.

Yes, sort of displeased. And he said unto them, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea, have ye never read? Out of the mouth of babes and suckling thou hast perfected praise.

So as we look at this, we see these wonderful things. The blind, the lame being healed. You'd think a priest would be happy to see the healing, but they weren't.

You would have thought they would have been in awe to see the son of David, the Messiah, healing the sick, the weak, but no. They were sort of displeased because they had important positions. They had wealth. They had social status.

They had nicer places than the others did. They had prestige and they did not want to lose any of those earthly things. They were not willing to rejoice at what they saw, the miracles, the blessings. So again, they were displeased and Jesus knew and heard and understood their displeasure. So we're going to go to Psalms, in Psalms chapter 8 verse 2.

Clear back. Psalm of David wrote, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the adventurer. Jesus knew, of course, being the one who gave all the Old Testament scripture, Jesus was the angel of the Lord, the angel of his presence.

Jesus was the one who was there all through the Old Testament and being the word, gave the word to the prophets. And he knew that out of the mouth of these children was their strength in their words because the enemies that thou might still the enemy. So he is telling them by reading Psalm, you know, the wording of the Psalm, that haven't you heard these children praising him and crying wonderful things? They are praising the Messiah, but they're also he's also telling them he knows they're the enemy right there. You are the enemy. It's quite clear. And he left them and went out of the city to Bethany and he lodged there.

Stay the night. This was his first day, the triumphal entry into Jerusalem, Palm Sunday with much, much going on and denouncing to the world that he was the son of David coming as the Messiah, coming riding the donkey as king of the Jews would be their future king. And this is where everything now is set for that last week of his life. The enemy knows who he is or he claims to be.

They are hateful. They have to get rid of him. And now everything is set for. Well, all holy week, and we're going to stop there for the night. You're listening to Pastor Joe Larson sitting in for Pastor Ernie Sanders, the voice of the Christian Resistance. And we are here tonight with Jim Renacey. And Jim, before the break, I'd like you to tell folks a little bit about who you are and why you are running for governor of Ohio.

Well, thank you. And Jim Renacey, I try and tell everybody the best way to answer who Jim Renacey is. He's the husband of his high school sweetheart of 39 years. He's the father of three beautiful children here in Ohio. He's also the son of a 95-year-old mother who has taught him his Catholic values.

And he's now the grandfather of a 22-month-old grandson. And that's one of the reasons why I am running for governor. We have a state that has forgotten how important life is when you hire a pro-abortion medical director. That's something that should never have been done. Life should be precious and life should be something that we cherish and should be a key to any governor.

So that's one reason. But our state has also gotten away from us as well. So as that father and as that grandfather now, I'm looking to hopefully take our state back to a place that it was 30-some years ago, which was a powerhouse state. Something that people are proud of and a place where people stayed, raised a family, started a business, all of those things. And I hope to be able to do that.

All right. What has been your career? Well, I came to Ohio 39 years ago. I started a business, a consulting business. I went from one business, I grew that from one business to 60 businesses, created over 1,500 jobs. Employed over 3,000 people. I had everything from a CPA firm to a construction company to a, well, I had a golf course, multiple nursing homes.

So it's interesting. I had multiple businesses throughout this entire state. But I've been blessed by the Lord to be successful.

And this state gave me the opportunity to live the American dream. So a businessman, an entrepreneur, that's exactly what we need. We have had, in my opinion, all these, quote, professional politicians who've never wrote out a paycheck. You have no idea about how to conduct a business, how hard it is, what it takes to be an entrepreneur to create jobs, to actually build, make things, do things. And other than sit around and give orders, an entrepreneur has to see the future, has to budget, has to have all kinds of knowledge. So I think that is, to me, one of the best qualifications. I'm a Trump man, and that was one of the things I liked.

He was a businessman, not a politician. So you just made yourself a big plus. We're just about ready to come to a break. Andrew, are we close enough? All right, let's take a break and we'll be right back, folks.

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I'll remember you I'll remember, I'll remember, in November, in November, as I step into the little booth I'll remember, in November, to vote for anyone but, anyone but you Remember me, I served my country proudly Remember me, I love the USA Remember me, or am I just some bumpkin Who you didn't think would notice The bounced checks and midnight brains Remember me, I wrote you all those letters Thinking that you cared what I thought too Even though you often just forget to remember I'll remember you I'll remember, I'll remember, in November, in November, as I step into the little booth I'll remember, in November, to vote for anyone but, anyone but you We'll remember, in November, as we step into the little booth We'll remember, in November, to vote for anyone but, anyone but you We'll remember, in November, to vote for anyone but, anyone but you Just got to the studio, a voice that most of you will know the voice the minute he says hi Randy Gay, one of Pastor Ernie's assistants, one of the people that tries to keep him out of trouble on track, a bigger job than you may think, welcome Randy Thank you very much, and I see we have a distinguished guest tonight I know I've followed his career, and I like reading about him And he's certainly somebody who definitely bears consideration when you vote Not like a lot of those other people, no I don't say other, I say those other people who are shall we say, not to be considered Welcome Jim, welcome to the show Thank you and I appreciate you having me on And I take it if you're like a lot of people you've been watching the world collapse You've been watching the crime, the attack on the children, the attack on life The corruption in government, the border problems, all this What was the turning point that hit you, instead of being a successful businessman Having time with your family and enjoying the things that you've created and built What was the turning point where you woke up and said I've got to go run for office and do something Well this great state has really been a blessing to me I came here 39 years ago, started out with just a couple hundred dollars in a bank And as I said earlier, went from one business to six businesses, created so many jobs, employed so many people But at the same time I always believe you have to give back And when you're blessed, you need to give back And I was concerned about our state, I'm concerned about the direction it's taking I was concerned about our federal government, I believe our federal government is broken I believe the only way to fix the problems we have at the federal government Is really have strong governors who believe in life but also believe in family and freedom and faith And it was one of the reasons why I decided that the best way to fix our country is really right here at our state level And if you look, we have all those problems We have illegal immigrants coming not only to the border of Mexico but finding their way to Ohio Where we are spending tremendous amounts of money in that direction But how about our homeless and our homeless veterans, we should take care of Ohioans At the same time, we're losing so much money because of mismanagement in Ohio When we have the unemployment system failing and we have the unemployment system and the Medicaid system Fraud is rough with fraud and yet we don't have business leaders who can fix that So I continue to look at some of these statistics and I'm concerned for my children and grandchildren I'm hoping that we can change this state around Today we're the seventh most left state in the country, people are leaving And what we really need to have is a state that we can be proud of It's the state that I came here 39 years ago to which was a powerhouse We're families and you could raise a family, build a business, have success and stay here and not leave So I just got to a point where I saw a governor who also decided to take our rights away from us And one of the biggest things he did, now he will say he didn't do this But when you start to put the fear in churches that we start closing churches down because of the pandemic That is one thing that should never have been touched That's sacred, it's the First Amendment, we should have had the right to continue to leave churches open We left Walmarts open and we left Targets open and we closed small businesses And we put the fear of God in many ways in people that made them fear going to church And that was really a turning point for me I'd say it was the fear of the state, I would have to argue there Fear of the state, not fear of God If they had fear of God, the real fear of God, they'd have told the government where to put it bluntly But was Trump an inspiration? Being a businessman, did you see the way Trump approached things and said Hey, we've got a problem, instead of figuring out the political ramifications Here's the problem, how do we solve the problem, how do we get results You sound like you're a results-oriented person having that many businesses Your goal is you find a need, you fulfill the need, you find a problem, you find a solution to fix the problem I take it your approach to government would be much the same? Absolutely, I am a big supporter in the policies of Trump I'm also a big supporter in the way Governor DeSantis handles Florida, it's the same way We need to have our freedoms, but at the same time, we have to prioritize We have to make sure that we're giving people their constitutional rights But it's like a business, you have to see the problems, fix the problems, prioritize the problems Too often politicians do not do that In other words, I take it you're not one of those people that want to put your little finger up in the wind See which way is the wind blowing, you know what's right and what's wrong And your job as governor is to do what is right for the people of Ohio, is that a fair statement? Absolutely, well it's to make Ohio that place, again people want to stay here, live here, raise a family and do what's right You cannot worry, if you do what's right, even though you're going to make some people mad in the end That's all that matters, if you lose an election because you've done what's right, that should be all that matters Too often these career politicians are more worried, as you said, putting their finger up in the air and hoping they can do Not what's right, but what's best for them to get re-elected And I'm at a point in my life where it's not about getting re-elected, it's about the next generation Say Jim, being an Ohioan also, and I am, I want to ask you one question What makes all of them do that?

I follow Mike DeWine from, I lived in Cincinnati at the time and watched him change And it seems like they all do that, is there one reason why pretty much all of them do that? Well I think in most cases it's because they want to be liked and they want to get re-elected I mean those are the two reasons politicians give up many times their values and principles Because they want to be liked by the majority at the same time they want to get re-elected And I see it time and time again, it's sad because that always is the key, nobody wants to lose an election But if you just do what's right, I believe you won't lose an election, but you're right, we see this too often Jim, do you think also in there with that being liked and wanting to be re-elected, I see a lot of these people They don't have a faith, a strong faith, and they succumb to the lust of power That's a good point as well There were some successful people that went into politics, but they wanted more and more power And I think that's the downfall, would you agree with that? I would, and the lust of power of course is another piece to it, but the lust of power is by getting re-elected If you run and lose, you lose that power, so the lust of power is the reason why you work to get re-elected But you're right, and too often you lose your principles and values I mean the best example, Mike DeWine appointing a pro-abortion medical director, yet claiming that he's pro-life I was just tonight at a speech where I said Mike DeWine cannot hold the mantle of pro-life anymore Because you can't hire a medical director who's pro-abortion, and then when she steps down, Amy Acton You actually appoint another pro-abortion medical director, and then he steps down a few weeks later So in the end, this is a value and principle of the Republican Party, but also of the Christian faith And I'm not sure how he can ever look back and say, I'm still pro-life It's just so, to me, so hard to hear that, because there were so many people that had high hopes for him And one question I had on the schools, I was just looking at an article that came down The Department of Education under Biden, waging war on charter schools, bringing in new regulations New proposed rules that are going to make it harder to obtain start-up grants, harder to maintain a school And then they are going to put in a bunch of little things, like there has to be surveys and things And the current school system has to be able to show that they don't have room for the students That another school is needed to take the overflow, all the students that want to have an education that can't get into school You know, when I heard that, I thought, it's kind of like saying there's a grocery store in town And another store can't come in and bring competition to another grocery store to bring down prices for the community And they're saying, no, you've got to prove that that grocery store can't handle, you know, can't sell enough groceries for the community That there must be another store, and the store that is the one existing store gets to make rules for competition Isn't that kind of what the public school, what they're doing there then by the government? Sure, it's indoctrination coming from the federal government Which is one of the reasons I said that the best way to fix our country is to have strong states who say no more One of the things I would do as governor is revamp and overhaul our entire education system We need to eliminate CRT, we need to eliminate social-emotional learning We need to eliminate this comprehensive sex education that's being pushed down from the federal government And in many ways from the DeWine administration so that these children are getting sex education in kindergarten, first, second, and third grade That's terrible, but this is what happens when you have a leader like DeWine who doesn't say no If we look at what's going on in Florida, we have a governor DeSantis who says we are not going to allow this in our school systems In Ohio, we have a governor DeWine who says nothing But it's the mandates that are being pushed down by the federal government And that's why we need leadership in our state and in our governor's position so we can stop this The other thing you touched on is I believe education should follow, the money should follow the child That's how we'll fix this Sorry No, you should That's the best thing I've heard you so far The money should follow the what?

Parents or the student? The parents and the student If the parents and student decide they're not going to go to this school, they should be able to go to any school they want And that'll bring competition and it'll stop these public schools from always saying it's our way It's a problem The money should follow the student and it should be a decision of the parent and the student So in other words, I don't think you're expecting a big vote from the teachers union in Ohio Well, I'm definitely not going to get that in the primary because most teachers are not Republicans But in the end, I do believe that I'm going to get the vote of Ohioans who believe we can have a much better state And that's going to be my goal It's not about a Republican or Democrat It's really about making our state one of the best states in the country for families, for growth, for business, for all of those things That should be the key issue You know, the other thing you were talking about with the money following the child To my knowledge and just watching it, why is it that they never send all of the money with the child? Well, part of the problem is it is about the money, so these school districts want to keep as much as they can Because they have overhead You know, in the business world, you have to be able to compete with the money you have Or that you raise or that in your cell, all those things But in school districts, they want to keep it all to themselves And one of the reasons why the student who wants to go, let's say, to a vote tech educational program And many times they say, well, there's not enough slots Well, the reason there's not enough slots is because the school district does not want to lose the dollars That have to go to the vote tech education because they have overhead to cover as well So what we really need to do is take a look at these schools One thing that's interesting, in Ohio, over the next 10 years, we'll have the least amount of 18-year-olds ever In the history of Ohio Yet we have still the same amount of school districts, the same amount of colleges, the same amount of universities But we're going to have less students to go in At some point in time, a governor is going to have to look at this and say, we need to start bringing our overhead down We don't have enough students to fill the buildings anymore And that's also going to be a big issue someday for Ohioans They're going to have to, especially those that love their university People say, well, I went to the University of Akron, I don't want Akron to disappear I went to one of the other schools, I don't want these schools to disappear, I get it But at some point in time when you don't have enough students to go into those schools You're going to have to do something about the overhead that each one of those schools produces Well, I just thought with the current rate of abortion in America I look at the reproduction rate and we're far below what it takes to maintain a population And I would imagine Ohio is like many other states, we're far below that rate And the population is getting older, we have fewer and fewer young people Now, the colleges and universities, they are trying to get more and more important students Because that's their solution to the problem But they're in Ohio, you're bringing up a real important point The population isn't reproducing, there are fewer children to be going into the school system And that's going to be a future problem for Ohio And as the people get older, they're not going to be the younger people to support an older population Well, I 100% agree, and that's one of the things business leaders and governors in every state need to be looking at It's one of the things that needs to be addressed in Ohio We need to look at these issues and take them head on today Not just worried about getting re-elected Governor DeWine, in his State of the State address, talked about seven issues All of them were more spending Because, again, he wants to be liked and he wants to be re-elected But the real truth is, we've got to start looking at ways to reduce spending in a state and prepare As our state ages, and we have less 18-year-olds and less people Actually going out and telling the people the truth, I can tell you're not a politician Because you started off with, let's just tell the truth and then we have to see what we have to work with So confronting the truth is one of the things that you're more willing to do than most of the people I've interviewed, Jim Well, it's the only way to fix things Again, you have to tell people we have a problem, but we can fix it Ohio can be one of the greatest states again in the country But we first have to address our problems before we can get back to that point Amen to that You were talking about jobs also, Jim Isn't there a section down by Medina where they have all these unfulfilled skilled jobs like welding and that sort of thing?

Or there was at one time? Well, you know what's interesting, all across the state we have that We have more job openings than we have people that fill the jobs And these are like $60,000 a year jobs that pay benefits as well, isn't that right? I mean that's pretty much the way it is Exactly, we've got enough jobs that can be filled But the problem is we have something called Medicaid expansion We have unemployment that's gone rapid and we've lost billions and billions of dollars because of mismanagement by the current governor That people don't feel the need to go to work They find other means, whether it's the unemployment system, whether it's Medicaid expansion And we have taken away the ability in some of the welfare programs as well to really need a real need to go get a job That's sad Do you have many trade schools there in Ohio? Is that something that you see a need for more trade schools?

No, we actually have enough trade schools. What we need is to make sure that our students in the high schools get the opportunity to go to the trade schools And I think what should happen in high schools is our young adults should see there's opportunities other than going to college You can go to the military or you can go to a trade school You can be a welder making $80,000, $100,000 depending on the welding techniques There are so many ways to live the American dream in this state The problem is 10 years ago, 15 years ago, the governor then, Governor Casey, decided that everybody should get a college education I think that was a mistake We only need college educations We need qualified individuals Amen, there's so many skills out there that are lacking I was reading something where they had so many of these truck drivers out there have college degrees But they like the running their own business and they're independent truckers So here they had a college degree that they found wasn't worth much and they went and started their own business And nowadays the more and more liberal these colleges and universities are, the less and less education you're getting You don't have to have $100,000 in student loan debt to go through one of those trade schools Like you said, even out here in the middle of where I live in the Ozarks, very, very rural Engineers, electricians, plumbers still make a real good living and have nice, you know, have nice homes And they're very happy with what they're doing I mean, the college education really, if all the jobs were filled for people going to college, I think there wouldn't be enough jobs anyway Well, and I think if we started in ninth or tenth grade and we showed our young adults all the opportunities and the pay scales I mean, think of the truck driver who went to college, basically wasted four years of their life Because now that college degree's not needed, they could have gone right from high school, gotten their license to drive truck And in four years, they could have made $60,000 or $70,000 a year versus paying $30,000 or $40,000 a year for a college education they didn't need Well, sometimes I call that indoctrination in most of these schools they have nowadays, it's not education, it's indoctrination And some of the young college people I've talked to, they sure didn't get much of an education At least it doesn't show in their speech, their knowledge of anything like history, math, science, constitution That's the other thing I was thinking, as governor, do you think that you would want to put back some ideas like teaching the constitution Having it taught in school, having some of the studies be about the founding fathers and the principles and ideals that were put into the constitution I think that was taken out long ago, and I'm looking for people who want to put that back and educate our children in the real important What makes America great, what is so great about our constitution, our nation, our founding, and I think that is totally, totally lacking Was that something that you would agree and think can be done from a governor's position? Well, absolutely, and it gets back to what I said earlier, we need to eliminate CRT, we need to eliminate social-emotional learning Our curriculum, we need to eliminate comprehensive sex education, we need to get back to reading, writing, arithmetic, and civics All of those things that really make you a better prepared for the future So I would be an advocate of that, and I think that's something we should be doing in our schools The other, I guess, the big thing right now is all these drugs that are coming over the border, all this fentanyl, almost daily You hear about border patrols coming up with a large stash of fentanyl, enough to wipe out a city, four states, and it just seems like a never-ending But we don't seem to be, we seem to be going after some of the lower level, we don't seem to be putting real drug dealers or traffickers in jail Keeping them in jail, making it a really, a penalty not worth the profit Well, if you think about it, the state of Ohio today is number one in corruption, it's also number one in drug overdose, addiction, and death I mean, so we, yeah, so we really do, and by the way, number three in human trafficking So Ohio has some statistics that are not good, we do not want to be in the top five in those three categories Yet in the bottom 15 in business, and tax, and all those other things So, absolutely, we have a whole other issue when it comes to Ohio, and human trafficking, and drugs, and addiction Would you repeat that, you said you were number one in what, drug use, illegal drug use? Well, we're number one in corruption, which is state corruption, but we're also number one in drug overdose, addiction, and death I mean, that is not a good statistic, and then we're number three or four in human trafficking So those three categories there do not make Ohio, and by the way, we have five of the 50 most dangerous cities in the entire country Those are some terrifying facts that I did not know, of course being from Missouri But that should really wake up, I'm hoping the listeners out there, especially all those in Ohio, are hearing what you just said about Number one in corruption, drug overdose, deaths, number three in human trafficking You have five of the 50 most dangerous cities, did you say, dangerous or deadliest? Dangerous cities, they actually, per capita homicides, five of the most dangerous per capita homicide cities Wow, I can see why as a father, a husband, a grandfather, you want to run and clean house And you sound like you have the knowledge of how to actually, with the business background, go in and actually do it Do you have enough contacts? People you know in the state, well, we've got just a few minutes here Can you stay over just a couple of minutes after the break? 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