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It is March 21st. It is Saturday morning. It is 9 o'clock. And I am live on YouTube on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. Thanks to Dan, I'm faring okay in his bracket.
I have Purdue in that one. I did a bracket where I'm... In his, I'm doing one where I'm taking all like contrarian and like big ten. picks. My main winner is Houston.
My kids is Duke. My kids is Duke, and he's really into the bracket. And I was really excited to fill one out with him. And then he almost lost his national champion. On the first day, like before two o'clock, which would have been devastating.
So I was all in for Duke. I was all in. Because the last thing you want to do, the last thing you want to do. when you're trying to get your kid into this bracket is have His number one team, the team that he took to win, a number one seed, mind you, lose right away. Sienna meeting Duke, I think, would have been hilarious for everybody involved.
I liked it. I saw Zabe talk about it. I like Zabe's analogy. Like, it would have been great, but it would have been too great. We don't deserve it actually.
It would have been too good. And I didn't want it anyway because I need my, you know, he's engaged and we're watching the tournament and he's throwing out the bracket and his little handwriting, and it's great. And I didn't want that at the end, so I rooted for Duke. I rooted for Duke. Otherwise, he was going to throw away his bracket.
My bracket's busted. You know, people do that on day one. It sucks.
Well, my kid would have done it, it would have sucked. It would have sucked. Jake says Saturday morning Winkler versus hot damn. Mike Murphy with a good morning, sir. I just, there's, there's a bunch of stuff that is happening that I wanted to talk about.
Haven't been able to do on Thursday and Friday with the tournament, with you know, a lot of daddy duty. With the kid being off from school for some reason during the tournament, which has been great because we've been watching it, but I've also been having to play kickball and basketball and wrestle, and I'm getting beat up and I'm very tired. But that's fine. It's good. It's rewarding.
It is the greatest reward that you will ever get. But there's been a lot happening that I wanted to discuss. This is a good time to do it.
So let's knock it out. We'll get into the Badgers again in a second. I want to talk about the Bucs. I want to talk about the box. We've been talking about the Bucs.
We've been talking about Giannis. We've been talking about the team. We've been talking about Doc Rivers. I think something that needs to get more attention is the ownership structure. Lori Nicoll wrote a great article about where the hell is John Horst.
We need to write more articles. Where is John Horst? And I don't think a lot I the the The amount of bucks coverage that I'm seeing. And I think the amount of Bucks coverage. You know how when I talk about the Packers, I'm basically shitting on Packer fans that think Matt LaFleur is good.
I'm not doing that. With the blocks. Because whatever I'm going to criticize or accuse Bucks fans of here. I'm a part of. I think collectively we are focused on Giannis.
As we should be. We are focused on. Miles Turner, that's not working as we should be. Is KPJ and Ryan Rollins really a backcourt that we can sustain? We're talking about as we should be.
Doc Rivers is terrible. We're talking about that as we should be. We're talking about all the right things. We're talking about all the right things with the Bucs. Because there's a lot to talk about with the Bucs.
But we're not talking enough. About Some other stuff. Like, where is John Horst? And not to say that nobody's ever brought it up, but I think. Where we should be focused is not.
Doc, or it's not the on-court stuff, or it's not the Ghana stuff. I don't think we collectively. Have done Enough of a appropriate job Asking about the ownership. Ask it. We have Jimmy Haslam.
As an owner in this state. I think sometimes.
Some of us Like We'll make fun of the Browns. for having Jimmy Haslam. And everything he's done terrible there. They just. Have this proposal that they want to be able to trade picks five years in advance.
Instead of the three that it is currently. Maybe to help them get out of the Deshaun Watson situation, they're proposing new rules. We make fun of the Browns for Jimmy Haslam and never really connect that he is here. Jimmy Haslam is here. Jimmy Haslam.
Is an owner of the Milwaukee Bucks. He has a considerable stake. In the franchise.
Now, he's not the governor. Right now.
So he's not the one that is. designed by the NBA to Be the one to stamp all the final decisions, but to think he doesn't have an influence. Hey, Carlos, I'm getting my Bucks and Badgers shit out of the way.
so that we can just break down the bracket on Monday. We could just we could just break it down and you don't have to deal with any of this bullshit that I bring to you. Because we're we are at a national show on Mondays. Right now, I'm doing the local. Thing.
But I'm talking about the Bucks. I'm talking about Jimmy Haslam. I'm talking about how we're not talking enough. About Jimmy Haslam. Shout out to Mike.
Quesnell. What's up, Mike? Yeah. So I'm talking about the Bucks. We don't talk enough about Jimmy Haslam.
Now, Ramona Shelburne. has come out with an article. About the Bucks, and it is entitled Why a Giannis Trade Might Be Even More Complicated This Summer. And it appears that she has done the work. What's up to Ryan Dooley?
What's up to Ethan Hooker? It appears that she has done the work, okay? as comments are coming in on YouTube. My issue with Shams and a lot of the ESPN. People is that they don't do the work.
Shams, Was getting blasted for essentially just stealing other people's work covering the WNBA CBA deal. Where he's like, oh, breaking news and he's reading names wrong and he's getting a bunch of facts wrong. Not like I know them any better, but neither does he. You had people like sitting outside these offices trying to figure out what's going on with the WNBA labor situation, and Shams are just like, oh, I'll report it. This is unacceptable.
This is we shouldn't allow this. I really think that we, as sports media consumers, need to more strongly push back on the insiders that aren't inside anything. Insiders are great. Insiders. Give us inside information.
Let us know rumors that are happening. Let us know that trades might be happening. Do you remember? Does anybody, is anybody old enough to remember when pro football talks started? That was just Mike Florio on a website in the early 2000s, putting out rumors all the time.
And that was great because we didn't have anybody else like that. And then insiders came along.
Now, what do insiders do but just regurgitate what agents say? The insider culture, they're not working. This is Schefter and Rapaport, and some guys work harder than others. And I shouldn't, you know, pass in how do we lump all these guys together? But the insider role right now seems to be: hey, I got something from an agent.
I'm going to tell you now. That's my job. That's not what we allowed you into our lives for. You're into our lives to tell us things. Before they happen, when they're going to happen, not just to be the conduit from the agent.
Otherwise, Drew Rosenhaus should just get on and tweet. I mean, that's all these guys have been right now. And I think that we need to do a better job of pushing back as a collective sports society. Hello to Joey. And we'll continue to work on being the.
the advocate for that. I don't think it's a thing that a lot of people care about as much as me. But you know. I've got time.
So, regarding Ramona Shelburne and what she said about Giannis, she has talked to these owners. She has quotes from these owners.
Okay, they did a 90-minute interview. with Wes Edams and Jimmy Haslam.
So, Jimmy Haslam came here because he bought the Mark Lazarie shares. Apparently, Mark Lazarie and Wes Edens don't talk. They were both at Giannis' wedding and seem to have avoided each other. That's thrilling. Eden said, Giannis is going into the last year of his contract.
So, one of two things will happen: either he will be extended or he'll be traded. The likelihood you'll just let him play out the last year. We can't afford that. It's not consistent with what's good for the organization. That's not a Giannis issue.
That's any player that's in there last year.
So that, that. That Thought is how Matt LaFleur Was extended because the Packers were faced with a choice. They weren't going to let it lame duck situation. Are we extending LaFleur or are we firing him? They didn't have enough compelling evidence to fire him.
So the only other choice. Was to extend them. It's not one I agree with. Everyone's well aware of that, but that was their choice. But that's What has happened.
Okay, that's what has happened. Is I'm distracted by the comments that I'm I can't share, but. I could, but I'm not going to. But I was talking about the situation.
So I was talking about LaFleur. It's Saturday morning, it's different. It's not going to happen.
So they extended LaFleur. The Bucks are taking a similar approach. We're not just going to let Giannis be. A free agent. Yeah.
We're going to do something about it. We're either going to trade him. Or we're going to have them sign the extension.
So I saw, you know, you can look at that and say, Bucks give Giannis ultimatum. It's not exactly what they did, but also, if you want to frame it that way, I guess it is kind of what they did. But it's not like an ultimatum that's shocking. This is, yeah, this is the customary thing. You have a guy going into his last year, you're either going to extend him.
or you are going to uh trade him. The source that Ramona Shelburne queets. Weeves. Quote tweets or quotes. This has nothing to do with Giannis and whether he asked out.
Tim, lots of editing today. It's about who's making the decision on whether to trade Giannis. I don't think anyone knows that. I deal with them all the time. It depends on the day.
That's somebody talking about how the Bucks work. They're not even close to making a decision. Like that. And I think that that is. What is the issue here?
Who is in control? of the Milwaukee Bucks. Wes Edens has the governorship right now.
So is it him? But Jimmy Haslam bought in, and he didn't just buy in to just sit there. The same way that Rogers bought into whatever share he has of the Bucs, or Giannis bought into whatever share he has of the Brewers, or Kelsey, or these freak gummies. Which are they are they just gummies or are they like Hemp gummies. I don't think they're hemp gummies.
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Peter Fagan's on the way out. They got Josh Glessing in there, who has some local ties. But this is a Haslam pick. Apparently.
Some of the Eden's and Lazari fallout is because of the Justin Horse decision. Remember, we thought we were getting Zanik. Who eventually went to the jazz at the time? That was a long time ago now. Horse has been here.
For a long time. One other executive said, We mostly deal with horse, but our impression was that Jimmy was really the one that would. decide this. I don't know. Anything more than this article?
I don't think that a lot of other people know anything more. Then this article But I do know that The perception is Jimmy Haslam's in control of the Milwaukee Bucks. Wes Edens is there. John Horst is the owner. But it feels like Jimmy Haslam is in control of the Milwaukee Bucks.
What am I basing that on? I'm basing that on the fact that Doc Rivers is the coach here. I mean, if you're connecting the dots. And the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Jimmy Haslam seems to be a guy to me that goes and gets a big name.
A big name. A big name. is what he wants. Deshaun Watson was a big name. Yeah, he had the massage parlor stuff, and he was going to be suspended.
It was a big name we can get here, and he was really good with the Texans. There was a while Deshaun Watson was the second best quarterback in the league. At least a stretch. He was good. And in the past.
You would have traded what the Browns traded, maybe still not, but. You wouldn't have scoffed at it the way you do when you guarantee this guy's contract. And that's another thing: guaranteeing this guy's contract fully? What the hell? What the hell?
But that's what he did. And so, Doc Rivers is available, and Jimmy Haslam's got this Adrian Griffin, and he's here, whatever, I'm gonna hire Doc. Hire Doc, he's a name, I feel cool. We made fun of. Uh Atanasio, Paul, for this.
When they got Andrew McCutcheon. Yeah, we don't have money to spend, but it's Andrew McCutcheon. We made fun of Mark for that. And we should, because sometimes these owners, and you can't totally blame them.
Sometimes it looks like they get into a position where it's not about owning the team. It's about, look, I'm an owner of a pro team. I'm fond of Doc Rivers. He's going to be my coach. I'm fond of Andrew McCutcheon.
He's going to be. My center fielder. They're only human. They're involved in sports. They're infatuated with these guys.
They think it's cool. They get to be Michael Rubin of Fanatics and buy their friends to all come to this white party. Which I don't know why we're in an era Where the thing I hate the most about the white party that Fanatics does, Michael Rubin, is one, he's clearly. Not cool. But everybody's pretending he is because he's the one throwing this party.
And second, I would like us to be in an era where rich people stop flaunting how rich they are. If you're going to have this party where you all dress up in white and, you know, extravagant hors d'oeuvres and, you know, sexy ladies and, you know, hunk men. I don't want to see pictures. Do that with your cabal and don't show us. Don't show us.
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Soft and strong and simple. All right, we got someone jumping on here. It's the Bitter Bartender. Good morning, Bart. Where are you?
I am cleaning one of my accounts, the lovely Village Green in downtown Middleton. Hey, hey.
Well, thanks for jumping on today. What's up? It's just, it's delightful to take part in your stuff. This all ties together for me, you know.
So Did that kid lose the Senate election? Is that how Jimmy Haslam got in? Like, that was the punishment that other billionaires said. Wisconsin won't play with us, so we're gonna stick you with Jimmy Haslam. That's a good theory.
I do certainly think that the Alex Lazarie failed Senate run. Had something to I mean It did seem like, because you know, these two guys come in and they're like, why'd they pick us in Milwaukee? And then you're like, oh, okay, so they they're like we can get my kid a senator. Yeah. That's I mean, that's what it seemed like.
Now, he hasn't done anything really. I haven't seen him since. I don't know where the hell he went if he's going to go on another unsuspecting town. But yeah, one, if you, yeah, I mean, again, simplest answer: he lost, they're out. I like your theory where they're like, oh, they're not going to like my kid.
Their little billionaire's cabal is just like, oh, let's fuck him over with Haslam. It's a nice theory, I don't hate it. I never assume the best about these people at all. That's not how they operate. I don't know.
And I'll take it. I went to an expensive high school because my dad was real and a great, super expensive grade school. And Some of those really wealthy kids are okay, but a lot of them are seriously messed up and. untrustworthy and Uh I'm sorry, I will never assume the best about people like that. It's just, I can't do it.
I will say from what I've seen. Uh it does seem like a lot of times The the kids that go to these kind of schools don't ever run into situations that Other normal Can we say normal kids do? Like they don't, they don't, they're not ever like bullied. They're not because they, you know, they buy their way out of it or whatever. Yeah, no, I wouldn't say that at all.
Like, all the all the really horrible stuff, it'll, it'll happen to them as well, but there's usually not consequences, right?
So, like, I had the son of a stockbroker steal my mini bike. Bam. You know, stuff like that, it's just ridiculous. And then the lies they go to, you know, and then they're offended when, like, you mentioned calling the police because, well, their boy wouldn't do it.
Well, when push comes to shove, they wrote a big check to cover stuff.
So, um, you know, I had a football coach who yelled at me for not shaving, uh, running the clock down. And then the referee comes and yells at me. And says, you are to run that clock when I tell you. And I said, is that not what I've done? He goes, well, I heard him.
And I said, nobody gives a damn what he says. I mean I always assume those private schools are cheating at athletics because I've seen how these guys operate. Yeah. Never assume the best. Yeah, and again, a billion.
Is a thousand million.
So I just like to reiterate that because it's a lot more money. Than we think. All right.
So. You're you hate the rich, eat the rich. That's good. I, you know, uh, good podcast to do that on. It's uh yeah, you are my people, Bart.
Some of the people you hang out with are a little uh, there won't. I won't slander anyone on here, but uh. I I had I had run-ins with your friend's boss. I will put it that way. In fact, I don't think I'm allowed to talk on his show anymore.
And that was over this was over the FISERV forum. You know, we all got rolled over. We gave billionaires half a billion dollars to redevelop a thing and make them even more money. It's utterly ridiculous. And uh Someone who I uh who I referred to at our to our local station is being a bloated bag of bile Uh He uh he took issue with with my poking holes in the the argument that we should we should give these billionaires a little playground down in Milwaukee.
It was terrible. Yeah, I mean The area's great and it's better for the city. But And they made a bunch of money at no risk. Yeah. And they run it and they get to do everything.
And what do we see for half a billion dollars?
Well, now we see Jimmy Haslam running the bucks into the ground. We're still at the point. We are still at the point. Where the title Because they won, we got to remember that. And I'm big on titles, and then there might be some pain after the title.
We're still at the point where it's still been worth it. But prolonged Jimmy Haslam exposure. Dilutes our good feelings, and it just makes that title seem further and further. Away. We should.
We're so, we're so, we feel cursed in the state, and I'll get into the Badgers later as another part of it. But even when we win a title, like, what does it cost us? It cost you. It costs you. You have Jimmy Haslam now.
Like, why do we can't just win and move on and maybe win again, like some of these other teams? We got to be you won.
Okay, good. Here's Jimmy Haslam. What the fuck? Yeah, he's the herpes of professional sports. We're never going to be able to get rid of him.
You can only treat 'em, but you can't get rid of them.
So you clean bars in the morning? That sucks. Uh, well, I so I I clean a lot of stuff overnight, which is why I was such a big fan of your show, to have someone, uh, you know, intelligent and funny to kind of keep me awake.
So, yeah, I clean every Everything from engineering firms and legal foundations to a couple taverns that I like, got to keep them, keep them on the up and clean. uh yeah it's you want to clean this basement You bet. I'll come figure it out for you. Actually, I'm, dude, you wouldn't even believe it. I've been over a year and a half ago, I hit a.
I hit a cow in the dark with my carpet cleaning truck.
So, I've been like running a cleaning company with an SUV for like a year and a half. And it It's just, it's the most Wisconsin thing ever.
Well, maybe I'll come work for you. When I was a summer custodian one year, And of all the different things we did. I just really got into carpet cleaning. I really, I really enjoyed. I just really enjoyed the whole thing.
I don't know what it is, and I just really enjoyed doing that. You're probably demented, I hate to tell you, but you can still live a fun life.
Well, you get to see the progress of what you've done. Yes, yeah. You see all kinds of stuff. I mean, I was an apartment resident manager in my young 20s when I found my first deceased tenant. And then after that, then when I went heavy into the carpet and disaster clean, I became that guy.
Ah, yep, yep, yep.
So they you have the keys are they you just kind of pop into the cooler a little bit when you're done? You well, you never know. If the State Patrol's walking, uh, of course not. But uh, you know, there's quality control issues are very important uh in the hospitality industry.
So you you gotta make sure you wouldn't serve anything to a guest that you wouldn't consume yourself. Right. Yeah. That's very good. That's a very good way to put it.
I'm going to say bye, but anything else? I'm glad you jumped on. I appreciate the offer too. And really, you're one of my favorite people that I have yet to meet yet. And Uh one of these days we'll we'll suit that out and uh We'll fix you up real nice.
All right.
I look forward to it. Take care, sir. Thanks for popping on. You bet. The bitter bartender.
New into the Winkler verse. Come one, come all. Everyone is welcome here. My old fourth grade teacher. Says hi via uh Nick Bertram.
So shout out to uh To freeze. Fries there. I love that. All right.
So, yeah, I mean, a lot of good points. from our new friend Bitter Bartender. Great to have him on. Great to have him. At work, see Saturday morning.
You know, some of you lazy out of bed. No, no, no. We get up and we cook. We get up and we grind. Here on this.
on this Saturday.
So good, good. And anybody with gainful employment? Who am I to Who am I to say? Who am I to judge? All right, so the bucks are fucked.
I think we established that. And that's something that I want to talk maybe more with Paul and Grant this week on is. Yeah, you get a title. And then afterwards, like, what is the cost? With the Packers.
I don't know. We have all these shitty losses. Yeah, that sucks. You only get one title out of Rogers and Favre. That sucks.
I guess that's kind of like it. The Brewers, I mean, they never even they need they, you know. We'll never get one, but wouldn't you sit like wouldn't you sacrifice? I think a lot of people right now. If you knew the Brewers could get you a World Series, you would sign up for them being shitty the rest of your life.
You don't care. You just want to see one. World Series. I'm kind of like that with the Packers. I want to see another title very badly.
But I don't think people are willing to punt the rest of their life because the Packers are a franchise that has been consistent. And should be winning more Super Bowls. The Brewers are a team that we feel like may never win one. The Bucs were certainly that team, at least in our lifetime. I know they picked out the one in the 70s.
Um Which we don't count. We don't, I don't know, because Kareem left. Because it was so long ago. I don't know. So the Bucks are absolutely fucked.
Can't be a live stream without Hot Take Jake. Get you on for a couple minutes at the gym, it looks like. Yeah, I gotta I gotta Get my Bluetooth headphones connected. This this is not working.
Sound good to me. That's a wrap on Hot Take Jake. You good? Figure your shit out. Fuck.
Jake, I'll give you 30. Seconds, I'm putting you down and then. Yeah, what's the Winkler verse without without random? Fucking failures. Ethan's gonna try.
Ethan. How are we doing? Ethan's in. Jake, I'll get you in too. Yeah.
How's it going, guys? Good. Ethan, welcome. I like this Saturday. We're getting some new faces on this Saturday.
Long time listener, though. Oh, yeah. Long time, first time listening. Ethan, what's up, buddy? Oh, nothing much.
I'm joining you guys from far southwestern Wisconsin.
So, like, near. Uh Cuba City platform. Give me the town, the exact town. Schulzburg.
Okay.
I don't know. Nobody does. Used to be in Milwaukee and obviously listened to you for years.
So I'm just here to. Just here to listen and provide some interesting information that I might have.
Well, what would that be, Ethan? Um well I mean I want to talk about the badges Uh Chris McIntosh's trash. And I wanted to see what you had to say about that. Yeah, before we do that, Jake, you got anything on the bucks? Uh I do.
I just think there's much, much too much being made about this article. Uh I read some of the finer points. And Mm-hmm.
Okay, so Giannis will be extended or traded. Is that not? like common sense. Like you're not gonna let him do one more year and then just let him leave as a free agent. I don't understand the controversy behind that.
Um But yeah, like uh Jimmy Haslam is now one of the owners. He won't be forever. He's going to eventually sell his shares. I don't know. These guys, they buy these.
I mean, it's investments for them. It's just like Lazarus. He bought it, he flipped it.
So Jimmy Haslam will eventually flip his shares. Wes Edens will flip his shares. It's a place like, or you know, a team like the Bucks, with Herb Cole being gone. I think for Herb, this was a hobby for him. He loved basketball.
He wanted to keep the team here. Uh, unless you have a guy that randomly, you know, a a billionaire from Milwaukee that's a hardcore Bucks fan or a Mark Cuban type that just, hey, I have so much money to blow, like, I don't care, this is just fun for me. That's what Milwaukee Bucks are going to be is at least for as long as they're in Milwaukee, 'cause I don't think anything lasts forever, um, with the situation that we're in. I think the big thing for me about the article is just another it's it's finally some more noise and attention that Jimmy Haslam is the owner of the Milwaukee Bucks, something that I think a lot of us just Don't retain that information in our head, or don't, or we know it, but we're not like, we don't. We should be outraged.
This guy stops. I think but for people that actually follow the team. They've known Jimmy Haslam sucks. Like, it's a reality that we're just dealing with.
So, maybe from the national standpoint, of like more people are being made aware of it. But I think for the people that are saying that. The way that Brewers fans treat Mark is the way that Bucks fans should be treating Jimmy. Oh, 100%. And I'm glad you brought that up because It kind of ties into the Badgers this week too, because hashtag FireGuard is gaining more traction again.
And it's very similar to me the way Badgers fans are, I think college basketball fans are. Like They don't like the NCAA tournament, but they've tricked themselves into thinking they do because it's exciting, it's fun, like you see these upsets, and then it happens to your team, and then all of a sudden, it's like there were like, there were like no upsets except for one. There was one main upset, and it was sure, sure. I just, you know, that's the nature of. College basketball.
You do an entire season and then you can get cold shooting one game. You can have some little unathletic white dude that's going to be working at Northwestern Mutual on commission in a few months that gets hot and all of a sudden, boom, season over. Like, you don't like that Greg Gard didn't get it done. You don't like that you got eliminated after one shitty game.
So I feel like it kind of ties into baseball fans and the brewers. Like, you don't hate Mark Atanasio. Mark Atanasio is an unbelievable owner, one of the best in sports. You don't like that Major League Baseball is set up to be slanted against you to where you can't get the big one. And that's not Mark Atanasio's fault.
He's done everything he can within reason to get it done. And I'm sorry, like you either don't watch the sport or stop pitching. That's my thought. Great thoughts. I'm going to get on to the Badgers.
You got anything on that? No, no, no. That was my Badgers' point: the tournament sucks, and people are just starting to realize it. Love you guys. We're well aware you think the tournament sucks.
I like that take of yours. I mean, you're very consistent with it, and I appreciate it.
Okay.
All right, Jake. See you, buddy. All right, I think he put down his phone. I don't know. I mean, I don't disagree.
You know, I don't think I've been doing brackets for 20 years. I haven't had a good time doing any bracket in my entire life. I mean, that says more about me than anything else. But I mean, it's a depressing experience. I didn't even take that many upsets, but I took more than fucking one.
Right. I think I took chalk on pretty much everything. But so I'm actually okay. But I'm still not enjoying it. And of course, yeah, the Badgers are out.
So that sucks. I don't know. Let's get back to your Chris McIntosh slander. He's a joke. Like he's done nothing right.
The NIL is eating him up. Like it's just, it's an absolute joke. And obviously, he's responsible for a certain football coach hire.
So that's always going to piss me off. Mm-hmm. I can't think of anything good he's done. I mean, even the volleyball teams suck under him. That's just my opinion though.
What do I know?
So what do you think they think they should do something with guard? Honestly, no, I don't. I think he's, I mean. He's he's consistently An average coach. I mean, sure, let's get rid of them and see what we can get.
Why can't they win in the tournament? No idea. Honestly, I think it's a system thing. And I don't think he knows. Like, he looked distraught.
He looked like. Yeah. So I've been thinking a lot about this because. It's a regular season success. They get into the playoffs, they lose in a game, it's a one and done.
Again, with LeFleur. I'm all over him for that. But with guard. I'm not. College basketball, I think.
Is it because he's not handsome? Yeah, I might be. I think I'm more forgiving. to the playoff structure of college basketball. Because Dude, 40 minutes is not a lot of time.
In that atmosphere, it is just not. You have these games where they like take eight minutes to figure out. Yeah. And then they play for a little bit, and then they have a long halftime, and then they come back, and it's like you go on one run. You win a college basketball game.
Right. And if you're not, you know, you know, a top one, two, or three seed, you're playing against a team that really. Is probably just as good as you, you know, if not better. And then those top one, two, or three seeds are playing teams that have nothing to lose and are pretty much just out there just for shits and giggles, pardon my French. I mean, yeah, there's excitement when there's an upset, but in terms of the process, I don't enjoy it anymore.
I did what I was like, like, when I was in middle school and high school and stuff, and I was. You know In the like the MBA and then watching the prospects in college, but now. Again, I don't want to get on like a soapbox about the NIL, but I just feel like that's just kind of creeped into college basketball, too, and it's just kind of a joke.
Well, I thought I I hoped I think with NIL it would mean I think what I hope with NIL for college basketball, it it would mean that Some of these teams are able to keep Upperclassmen, juniors, and even seniors. And for the smaller schools, that was going to be the way. Like, we can keep these guys, we can keep them, we can keep them here. But What's happened is that's not happening, and then they're all just bolting. You have one good year at a mid-major, you go to a bigger school, and then you're out.
So, the upsets were why we love this first weekend. NIL might be taking that away from us. Right. Agreed. And then the bracket in the tournament's not going to be As good.
Anything else on the Badgers? No, sir. Just I hope they fire Chris McIntosh here. Otherwise, it's going to be a shit show for the next four years. I'm glad you popped on and don't be a stranger.
Is Saturday morning the best time for you? Yes, sir. Great. Good day. Two more Saturday mornings then.
Sounds like a plan. Take care, Bart. Appreciate you, Ethan. Ethan. Look at that, we got the bitter bartender.
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That's what we need more of. Good. I'm glad to see that article. The Giannis stuff regarding the article. Mm-hmm.
You got to make a decision. Big boy. I think I've said this about Giannis. I think he wants to do both. I think he wants to live a life where he knows what it's like to stay in one city forever.
I also think he wants to explore. That's great. I want to do that too. I've long said that I would love to know what my life would be like if I grew up in a small town in Texas of 500 people, married the girl next door and played high school football. I want to live different lives.
I want to live a life where I grew up in Australia. What's that like? I want to live a life where I grow up. In the debt of Siberia. I want to live a life where I grow up.
on the East Coast and go to Syracuse so that I can have a long radio career because if you don't go there, eventually they'll find a way to bury you. But you only get one life and you only get one chance.
So you got to find what you're doing and stick with it. And if you want to make a change, then be brave enough and strong enough to make that change. Giannis, I feel like, is a little conflicted in that regard. I just we just want a decision. At this point, and maybe, you know what?
Maybe he's done this on purpose. Maybe he's done this on purpose, where maybe he's done it, where I'm going to make it so much that. People just want me to make a decision, and they're tired of me talking about that when I do leave, it'll cushion the blow. And Bucks fans will actually be relieved. But I don't think that's what's going on.
I don't think. I don't think. If you want to talk about Giannis and what's he doing and what's his long-term strategy. I hate to say it. I don't think he has a long-term strategy.
I don't think Giannis thinks ahead. His agents might, the team might. I don't think Giannis does. I think Giannis. Didn't expect to sign a contract here three times.
But when it came to be pushed comes the shove, he did it. I don't think he thinks more than two hours in advance. You know, when you ask somebody, what do you want to do in five years? Hell, I don't even know what I want for dinner. I think Giannis means like that.
That's Giannis. At least that's how I'm reading the situation. It just seems like he is what's in front of me. I'll tackle that. Oh, there's a Calci advertisement.
Okay.
Does it make me look bad, especially since I've been saying things that are gonna affect the odds that people are gonna make? And it looks like there might be some insider activity going on here. Yeah, it does. But I don't think there is because I don't think he thinks that far in advance. I don't think, Giannis, this is not a criticism.
I'm not shaming him. But this is the way that I view him. I don't think he makes decisions more than three hours in advance. That that's not what it seems like.
So I read that article. I know they're going to have an ultimatum. There's nothing new about that. They have to extend and portray him. It's a different thing to actually see it in print.
I'd like to watch this 90-minute interview of Eden's and Haslam sitting together with Ramona Shelburne, if that's what happened, because I want to see those two interact. There's just so much involved with covering the Bucks and talking about the Bucks and enjoying the Bucks and being a fan of the Bucks. That the ownership structure and how things, we're not privy to a lot of that stuff, but that's some of the most important stuff about this team.
So any spotlight that we can put on Jimmy Haslam. And the Doc Rivers decision, that's his. There's no way it's not. There's no way it's not. Doc Rivers was available.
They went for Adrian Griffin. Pleading with Doc Rivers to come out of whatever pseudo-retirement he was in and then giving him the longest leash of all time. That wasn't kind of happening. That stuff wasn't happening here. We were firing coaches.
We had expectations. Jimmy has him. It's a pretty long leash. And if Doc Rivers is the coach again, game one of the 26-27 season. That's unacceptable.
But we're not on the streets saying it's unacceptable because I think we know that they're just going to do it because of how fucking stupid the situation is with Haslam.
So that's why I'm glad there was a spotlight there. Badgers. I know it was another heartbreaking loss in Wisconsin history. But you got to admit, aren't you getting numb to it a little bit? Aren't you getting them to it?
The Packers had to be up 21-3 against their rival. Who use that as an opportunity to think that they passed the torch for me to feel pain? If they lost 21-3 to any other fucking team. And Pride has been another day. The Bears made us bleed a little bit because it's the Bears.
This Badger lost a high point, even though they're a college that's like. Actually, they teach life skills. They teach you how to like conduct business at a steak restaurant. I might look more about this college, maybe send my kid there. I don't know what colleges are going to look like in 12 years.
High point might be the way. This might be the start of their Gonzaga run. Remember the first year, Gonzaga won as like a nine seed, and we're like, what? And now they're consistently a one, two, three, four, five. I don't know.
So, Badgers. Yeah, that sucked. They should be playing today. I wish it hurt more. I wish it hurt more.
I wish it hurt more. It doesn't. 'Cause this is the kind of shit that happens around here.
So I wish it hurt more. And Brewer start next week. We'll talk plenty of brewers next week, but had a lot to talk about. Wanted to get on and get one here on a Saturday morning. Also, I wanted to play around with the Saturday morning.
We saw some new faces on a Saturday morning. And I kind of like the Saturday morning.
Now I do have soccer coming up, where Saturday morning is going to be with that. But this was fun, and maybe we'll do it again. But either way, I appreciate all of you, whether I saw your face just now or not, whether you were live or listening later or not. Every single click into what is happening into the Winklerverse keeps the Winklerverse going. And I appreciate all of you.
You know that. You know that. And you feel it's genuine, right? Because it really is. I mean, I almost.
Cried thinking about Cleaning carpets, how Much that meant to me to talk cleaning carpets. I can't lose this.
So, thank you. And we'll talk again. With Carlos coming up. Tim, can you jump on, Tim? Do you want to jump on?
Tim? Hold on, if Tim's awake, we gotta get Tim. You awake, Tim? We got to talk Badgers with Tim if you're awake. I just see Tim on the on the YouTube chat.
Saturdays, what is this? It hurt me, Bart. The Badgers loss. hurt me. This is a guy who takes a vacation every year to the Big Ten tournament.
to watch the Badgers. And the Badgers beat Illinois. I just text you. The Badgers beat Illinois. And you're feeling good.
Then they lose to Michigan. And then you can kind of be like.
Well, we get a day off and we took a team and we're looking good. Yeah, none of that mattered because you lost a fucking high point. High point. High point. They're going to get boat raced by Arkansas.
Today. That's who I should take in my survivor. Right now, I'm leaning on Illinois. But in the survivor pools, you're also supposed to take like a higher seed because then your seed score stacks up. But I don't want to keep taking higher seeds because then they fucking lose and then you're out.
So I'm trying the other way. We'll wrap things up with Tim Shea. Saturday morning. Come on.
Well, I wanted to do one. Thursday I wasn't gonna do one. I couldn't and I want to do one Friday And then Friday was one of those days that Things just kept popping up. Mm-hmm. And I couldn't get some basement time.
Got a little basement. You got to get it where you can get it. I guess so. Yeah. So how do you feel, bud?
I'm hurt. You don't follow this team, you know? This Badger team. Not like you, not anywhere close to you. I don't think you follow it like me.
So. No. I think this is the worst one out of the last, what, five years or whatever. The one in Burt is bad because you've been through it. The one in Milwaukee.
Yeah, it's just because you know you. You put the time and commitment into going to all these games. And I went to a few this year, and then I blew the budget at the Big Ten tournament.
So Yeah, it sucks. It sucks because I thought they were going to get out of the first weekend this year. I really did. And then you text me right after the game. Great season.
Or something like that. I text you. I'm like, screw you, kick me while I'm down. I text you. What did you say?
You said something. And I was like. I yelled out loud after I got yours because I got like three consecutive texts. Oh, I said, What a team! Yeah, and I was at the bar and I just yelled, Fuck you!
Well, don't you feel good, Tim, that? You're known as a badger guy that when something horrific happens to them, your friend texts you. That's an achievement. Sure, sure. Yep.
For you.
So, yes, but this one out of the last five, maybe the one at Iowa State or the one against Iowa State because that was pretty much in your own backyard. But What do you do? You just go on to the next thing, which is opening day. Are you going? I'm going.
You be at Kelly's? Yeah. Are you going to come up? I don't know what I'm going to do. I thought about going and walking around the parking lot in the morning.
If you do that, you got to wear a suit, you know, just for old time's sakes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to the game. Why don't you?
You should have Chuck go early too, and you two walk around in the parking lot together for a little bit. I'll text him. I I that would be entertaining, I think. That's a good idea. But I think he liked it.
I wonder if he gets in there because all the guys talk pregame. Yeah. Mark Tellox. He doesn't care. You know, the last episode there.
As long as he gets his lunch and soup, he's fine. I was there last opening day, and I like. I like Hacked my way into a credential. Yeah. Which they weren't thrilled about.
So I did not go into the Pat Murphy interview. Because I knew he would Be like, what's everybody's name? He'd pick you out of the crowd. And I was trying to hide.
Son, what's your name? Bart Winkler, I have a podcast. I'm on a well, I'm on a national show, but I I I use my old login with 1250, and then like the brewers got mad about it and confused. And now they want me to send all my applications to New York, which is more tedious for fucking everybody involved when I could just fucking do it, but. Uh Yeah.
The brewers For those that don't know The Brewers. have a tendency to If something takes one step, They try to make it take. Three or four steps. That's how I that's that in what I have come across. We could do it this way, but how could we do it harder and less effective?
Brewers. Front office. I'm talking about the front office. Hey, I used to be part of that. Watch it.
Well, I know, I know. Still a super fan.
So, do you is your excitement for the tournament? I still have, oh fuck, West Ham tomorrow. I got a lot to watch. I hope they lose tomorrow. Ah, fuck you.
They're going to get out of revenue. Do you care about the tournament? Who'd you take? Yeah, I do. I do.
I was planning, still planning on actually going to the final four.
So. I know. I like college basketball. You know that. You don't.
We know that. I didn't go to the final four. I've gone to a few final fours, so. Uh I might go, might meet Kevin Holden there. I guess if it's in Indy.
Yeah, they're here.
So next year it's in Detroit. This year. Um In Indianapolis, so Why not, right? They're fun, it's a lot of fun. I would have gone and got credentialed if I had a means to do that.
You need a little help?
So that's my. You still haven't, did you go through this? Only you. Only, uh only I will know. Unless you see my credential.
If you credentialed yourself through my show, I need to know that. I did not. All right.
You got your radio buddies? But maybe. Timmy. Anything else? I'm going to go eat breakfast.
What's for breakfast? Cereal or or actual breakfast?
Well, you know what I like for lunch? Hot pockets? Yes. Oh, so you're having a hot pocket. Yeah, breakfast hot pocket.
It's got egg and cheese.
Okay.
Mm-hmm. I don't eat breakfast. My breakfast is three black coffees and two mountain news. The low fat hot pocket, right? Of course, the green kind.
They don't make those anymore. You know that. Oh, yeah, that's right. The problem with that is the lean pockets had better flavors. And then when they took those away, you're only running with like ham and cheese, pepperoni pizza.
They're only running with like two or three hot pockets now. It fucking sucks. I was in Hale's Corners yesterday, brought back some memories. Yeah, doing what? I'm just doing some errands.
went past. Went past Grange Avenue. Yeah. Didn't go down the road.
Okay.
All right.
Well, hey, good to see you. What are you doing this weekend? Uh, just gonna watch basketball. I'm going to Pado today. Gonna watch basketball today, tomorrow.
Go back to work next week, opening day. Hopefully see you next week, Thursday. T B D. All right.
Good to see you now. It's always a pleasure. It's always a pleasure. Hey, Brewer's exhibition games Monday and Tuesday. I'm going Tuesday.
Are you? Four cheap seats, good seats. Take my kid after school. Yeah. Four o'clock start, so.
Yeah, take him right after school.
Well have fun. I wish more games were at four. That's a good time for a game. Yeah, I like how every game's not at 6:40 at night. Yeah, but the traffic now, the brewers are like, hey, here's how to get here.
And it's like, don't come.
Okay.
I had a harder time finding a vagina the first time I had sex. Jesus. All right.
Yep. Love ya. Mm-hmm. Go brewers. Thank you everybody for stopping into the Winklerverse.
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