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Last night, what a fun evening it was! Of course, watching the midterm elections. As expected, there was a bit of a blue wave, and maybe even more than expected. As even some of the ones where Republicans held strong, they held strong by pretty thin margins. Let's talk about it.
How do you feel this morning? One eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. When you woke up, did you feel like okay? We're going to move on. We're going to keep going.
We got two years ahead of us with President Trump. Then we got to recalibrate. I just want to get your general thoughts and feelings. Of course, as we look ahead to. What the GOP may offer, and of course, what it's going to look like over the next couple years, as there's already sort of the threats at hand.
Of course, now we've lived in a world where the pendulum always seems to swing, so it's easy to forget that just a few years ago we were probably talking about the same thing. Remember, we had a Democrat President just a couple years ago, and here we are now with the House and Senate under the control of Democrats, upcoming in January, and we have President Trump still in office. But again, how you feeling? Are you you tuning in to your news? Are you watching?
Are you starting to tune out today? Of course, it's all in God's hands. All a big plan. We all know that. But of course, it's okay to be feel a little defeated probably this morning.
But we're going to move on, and we have to stand strong, and we're going to continue fighting the good fight, even on a more localized level, as we have seen, just a few states that really kept their strong red presence. And again, by much thinner margins than even expected, including here in Tennessee and in states like Florida, which which still. And then, of course, you had states flip. Big one, obviously, is Texas. We're going to get into it.
Jordan's in studio. Will's in studio. I know Will, you you were texting me a lot last night. You were not thrilled. You were freaking out a little bit.
It's okay. I understand. Everyone should. I understand the feeling. Here's what we end up with after last night.
And one, I think, because there was a sense yesterday that it could have been closer to what happened in 2018, the first midterm election from President Trump, where the Democrats made gains, but it wasn't the blue wave, blue tsunami, and a lot of that had to do with the polling. Then you started seeing these wild polls at the end, and thinking, "Oh, this is what." Typically happens in this era where they undersample Republicans. Unfortunately, the polls were pretty accurate last night, even with all the shenanigans we saw with the fake polls. It was a very big night for Democrats. We're going to get into that as well, but also.
We're going to talk about where their head is after a big victory. Not let's unite the country. Let's get things done. Let's get those gas prices down that we ran on. No, we have the who is the ranking member, which means the highest ranking member of the minority party today, but will be the chairman of the House Oversight Committee.
Putting this out on X last night as they took control and the night was going that way. He said just two words: "Lawyer up." So the Democrats aren't looking to necessarily even. Put together a campaign to try to work with the President who can veto their bills. They're looking at revenge and retribution.
So, what do you think about that? Is is this a good place that America's in when we have a midterm and it doesn't moderate a party or it doesn't moderate an administration? Instead, it just is a back and forth of retribution. We also have responses from JD Vance and President Trump. President Trump said, "Hey, I wasn't on the ballot, so he can't blame me." I mean, again, that's a Sort of a rough quote, but that's essentially what he said.
JD Vance actually put out a very long plan of the four points, the major four points he he thinks one of the pollsters that he's one of his close friends that he trusts said is the reason why there was such a blue wave, and I think we need to start looking at them closely and what it could mean for twenty twenty eight. Again, now that we're just two years away from a new presidency, and clearly, Vice President Vance is eyeing that seat. And what a future presidency could look like for him, if these are the things he believes we need to change. These top four. Let's go over them when we get back.
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Phone lines are open for you. Let's keep talking. One eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. I just want to start with. A post from JD Vance.
It's a very extensive post. We're not going to go through all of it, but he does lay out what he believes. One of the pollsters, he said, "It's one of the smartest people I know in politics." Told me yesterday that we'd lose by 13 points. I felt negative going to Tuesday, but even I was shocked by this. He saw a lot of Trump 2024 voters who are angry and planning to vote for Democrats, and he asked them why they abandon us.
He even says later on, "Our voters showed up; they just voted Democrat." And here's the four reasons. And maybe you agree, maybe you disagree. Let me know in the comments. How you feel about this? Number one, in the war, of course, referring us to the war in Iran.
Number two, focus on the cost of living and inflation. I think everyone's felt that. Everyone feels that pain and has had to deal with it. Put America first. Starts.
Yeah, but I understand where he's saying. And then the fourth one, of course, is going to be the one that's going to be the most controversial. As of yesterday, maybe not as much from this this administration. Change our relationship to Israel, and I assume he's with Israel in that sense. To Israel, but I know what he means.
Changing our relationship in terms of the way we fund, the way we support. Kind of, I guess they'll say we blindly support. Really playing off of this, showing where his campaign is probably going to really start to focus in on. And I think one other thing that we need to look at in this what is three page post when when printed out from the vice President, he also says this directly. These are his words.
Now, the reason we lost is the war. The President himself said so last night.
Now, what's also interesting is that you're getting, seeing some pushback. You see, Mark Teeson, longtime Republican strategist, believe he was a speechwriter for the Bush administration, but he says this. He goes. Trump did not say the reason we lost the war. He said Iran was a piece of it.
He also said I did the right thing and I would have done it again. And then Mark Teeson goes on to say, "If you disagree with him, say so. Agree or disagree, that's at least honest." So what you see in this long messaging from the vice President is really, I think, his messaging in a play for twenty twenty eight. Yeah, and I think, listen, I think that if you look at the first three. The President, you know.
And I'd say, and the vice President, and the administration, they they talked about ending the war a lot.
So, and the war didn't really end.
So a lot of false. There's always listen. It's kind of like the mission accomplished thing. It always kind of backfires on you to say we've ended major conflict when you've still got massive amount of troops there and you're still carrying out you know military attacks. People are still in harm's way.
So as long as there's American troops being fired upon, it's. I don't think you could say a war. Yeah, the war's ended yet. You could say maybe major conflict, but even that confuses people. I think in this list, the whole idea was putting America first.
That always should be number one. And then you say focus on the cost of living and inflation. That was not all the war, which is in essence number one. That was not all the war. Yeah, right.
At the end of the day, you're talking about the same thing for all of those except for the war in Israel, which you're also kind of talking about the same thing. You're really talking about two points. Yeah, it's two points: is tariffs, war in Israel. Yeah, war in Israel. I think tariffs, because of the way it affects the markets, gas price, things like that.
Real ways that affects your everyday life. Most presidencies and elections. Yes, you obviously will have long term pains, but the the daily pain. The interesting thing to me about all this is that with the Democrat victories coming out and saying, you know, law, you're up, and get ready for, or just subpoenas. That is not why they got voted in.
People didn't vote Democrat last night for lawfare or retribution. They voted Democrats last night because they said, "Okay, these guys didn't get it done. Are you going to focus on my cost of living and bring inflation down? Are Are you going to get my interest rates down? Are Are you going to make the world a safer place?
Not. Are you going to make Americans more divisive? Because none of that handles." Any of the things that even JD Vance is talking about. Often the pendulum swinging, saying, "Look, we're rolling a dice to go." Well, I don't like what they're doing. Maybe they could do better.
Well, and I think we had a very different Donald Trump in this term, absolutely. In that, to that degree as well, Jordan. You know, the for the the naysayers, the doom and gloom. Yes, last night, as far as the electoral map was a very bad night for Republicans for conservatives because of the the Senate map actually favored Republicans this time. To keep a a better balance of the situation, so in twenty twenty eight, the Democrats are in a better position to either expand, which is right now they're looking at fifty five or fifty six, depending on how Mississippi goes, which is never even really talked about as a Senate race, but it's the the Democrats ahead with all the votes counted by a couple hundred votes, very close House race here that never made it on.
I mean anyone's marker that is. Too close to call, or I think when when you basically done. I mean, the local media called it for it for the Tennessee was supposed to go all red last night for federal, and it ended up not after registering. Yeah, not in Memphis, but outside Nashville. Yeah, Murfreesboro, which is its own island, I have to say, unto itself.
This is what I'm talking about, though. As well, none of those were on on the radar. None. If they are going to say we are doing lawfare, we are not trying to find a way to bring. Prices down and work for the affordability of the American people, which is what, according to the polls, that is what people were concerned about, and that's what they campaigned on.
If they don't do anything for that, I think it is in 2028 wide open on the congressional side because one, it's a Presidential year. There's going to be a lot more voices and a lot more voters that there could be a really a reshuffling of the map as we know it, depending on how things play. Out over the next two years for them. I agree. You know, it's interesting for ACLJ action.
You know, we targeted a lot of like what we do.
So with issue advocacy for people that we would work closely with, and and and for those, I think that for people that we with for issue advocacy that we targeted, I think we are about eight of ten.
So we had a pretty good record last night, actually. Kurt Alme in Montana, who is a former U.S. attorney, he won big there. We've got a great new attorney general coming in Oklahoma, John. Eccles, who has been like the ACLJ's attorney when we need him in Oklahoma, and so he'll be the attorney general there.
That'll be great for us as well. We've got Bill Haggerty, obviously in Tennessee. Marsha Blackburn, first female governor in Tennessee's history. These are all you know positives that you can look at. You can still get a lot done in Washington, and I think it's going to be a rebuilding.
You're going to see a lot. You're going to learn about a lot of new Republicans because and not. I don't think that's necessarily bad. I think that some of these Republicans who have been a one-term senator or coming in for their first term, maybe they're going to be in the minority, so they're going to have to fight back a lot. But you know, Fox News is going to have less people to call upon for the Republican position, and because of that, they're going to get more ID.
They are different personalities. I mean, the first Trump, they are not just holdovers from MAGA one. Yeah, and and so so I do think you'll see a The fight between the Republican Party will be this: Israel. Yeah, let's just be bottom line. And we talked about that yesterday.
It's not going to be good economics versus bad economics. We all pretty much agree on that. On the right, it's. Israel and Israel is not about economics, really. It's when you look at it, it's a drop in the it's a drop in the bucket.
Yeah, when you look at it from a bigger picture, you have a similar thought process coming into this new wave of Democrats, popular, young, controversial, very similar to the Freedom Caucus people that came in a few years ago. In that sense, where they came to shake things up, and you saw somewhat the good and the bad that came from all of that. I don't look at this as any dissimilar to that, where you have Controversial young figures. What I did see last night is I could not tell you, and maybe this is just me. And this was no disrespect, meaning to any of the conservative candidates that ran and lost.
Ran and lost. I knew the names of Al Sayed. I knew the names of James Talarico. I mean, sure, I knew their opponents by proxy, and some of them because they were long-term political figures. I didn't know a lot of exciting conservative candidates that were running.
I actually don't know if I can name you one. Byron Donald may be the only one that I knew the name of going into this that was going to be a new face for a governorship or something like that.
So we need a new group of of fresh people, some fresh blood out there that is going to not just come in to shake stuff up. I've kind of had enough of that. Let's actually get some legitimate candidates who are also young, well spoken, engaging, and can be the counterpart to a Mom Dami, a counterpart to, and I'll say it, because that is where the politics of right now is going. And if you have a whole new group of young voters coming in. In two years, you are gonna have a whole new group.
Who you are gonna be appealing to? We got to make sure we're not only appealing to the old guard, which is seemingly what Republicans ran on. Once again, they kind of did it even with the Darlene Graham situation, right? Where, as much as I understood, they were in a a horrible position because you had such a popular senator and Lindsey Graham, and then having to. In the moment, make some sort of radical shift.
I don't blame them for doing that. I honestly don't even know if I would have advised them to do otherwise. Right, but you do look at the long term impact of that.
Well, and I think to that point, we can talk about it in the next segment, and we'll take some callers as well. But when you think about recently in in the Senate for the the Republicans, and now it's been a while, but we had that wave of people, Tom Cotton, Ben Sasse, who unfortunately is not not in the Senate anymore, and has his health struggles. But then you had, you know, Josh Hawley. You have James Langford. You have those that are Marco Rubio.
That was that younger group that was exciting and was a fresh face for the Republicans. And then when you go across the map, either they're in no longer in politics or they're in the administration. And when you look at the people that were running, it is what the vast majority of the American people say: is we want younger people running, and that is not with the GOP had on the ballot last night. Yeah, I mean, look, if we were just going to look at talking points and not take out all their politics, I think most of you would probably have said, "If I'm just voting on just looks and personality," it's pretty clear who you would have voted for in a lot of these places. Let's work on that.
Let's do better. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow in just a moment. Welcome back to Sekulow. We have no lines open right now. We're jammed right now.
We're going to actually take some of these calls. I think it's important to hear from you from around the country. We got people calling in from some controversial states right now: Minnesota, South Carolina, Pennsylvania, Texas, and in Utah. I don't know what happened in Utah. I have to look up see what happened in Utah.
But another places let's let's go in the order they came in right now because I think it's important. Let's go to Ronald, South Carolina. Ronald, watching on Rumble, go ahead. Yes. Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, I was pretty much upset as to how the final outcome was going on the election. But one thing is, I believe that the Lord had just kind of comforted me and let me know this one thing: that I am in one of the few nations in the world, very few nations in the world, that actually has free elections that we can participate in. We're not. Forced to vote for this one, or forced to do this, or to even take our lives in our hands if we attempted to vote. But I think that's one of the greatest things right there.
So, just the act of democracy and participating in it just gives us opportunities. To do what needs to be done and getting the right people in the government to do the right thing. You got a wake up call, Ronald. It happens, and look again, the pendulum is shifted and swayed, swung. You know, pretty much in every one of these times in our lives.
How many times has happened?
Now, this seems stronger than ever. Yeah. In terms of the change, but it's not dissimilar. The map just looks a little rougher. Bit more.
It's more of a wave. It's more of a tsunami than a wave. It's because. Georgia, South Carolina. What we saw was people who were dissatisfied, maybe with the Senate candidate in Texas, also voted against the governor who was popular, who was popular, and was not having issues like like the Senate candidate.
So we saw, interestingly enough, maybe for the first time in red states, where people could kind of say, I don't really like this one, but I am Republican. But for the other guys, I like them. They just kind of said, you know what, no. I mean, and so if it was statewide races, they just said, "You know what? We're going to put in new people." Yeah, voted down the.
Down the ballot party line, right? Even if it wasn't their party, I think to Ronald's point, yes.
So you're changing your state leadership and your federal representation by one in the U.S. Senate. I think we should also be thankful that we are the constitutional republic we are, with the separation of powers that we are, and that this wasn't a parliamentary race because that is what you do see in places like England and and even Israel, where they have a parliamentary system, and you had if they. House of Commons, which is kind of similar to our House of Representatives, if you had a wave like this, leader be done, then your executive leader, your the equivalent of the President, but because it's under the legislature, would be changed. There's no check on that power.
Then of the the way that the wave election goes, it then immediately all the power goes to that party. There's still checks and balances here. There's still the veto power of the President.
So you. Can have a referendum on an administration without completely changing it, and that is always just a vote of no confidence that then gets you kicked out. And that's what our founders set up. That cannot be discounted. This is a beautiful thing that we have: this constitutional republic that isn't the parliamentary system.
That is what some people want to go to. Actually, a lot of these candidates that won last night would prefer to go to that. Why?
Well, because then the leader would be in charge. That—that's what they want. But I still think to to the caller's point, we should be thankful for our system that there are still checks and balances, even when it's a it's a rough night if if you're a conservative because 250 seats in the house and and 55 or six that are going to be in the Senate. That's that's nothing is getting done for two years. Yeah, let's take a call.
Let's go, Dan in Minnesota. Of course, Minnesota is a big one. Let's go to him. Go ahead. You're on the air.
Well, thank you for taking my call, guys. You know, as an American truck driver, I'm pretty sad that Minnesota wants to stay Democrat, and now are we going to get justice? You know, for all the crimes that's gone on with all the Democrats coming in. I just started my business, and now I'm wondering, am I going to be able to survive because of what's taken on? I'm just disgusted because we got a data center being forced down our throat up in home, and the laws not being followed, and now I'm left as like, okay, Lord, I'm comforted like the other caller, but it's like I don't know what to do anymore because it's it's just disgusting.
It's interesting you brought up data centers. Data centers cross party aisles. It's like whoever was the candidate that brought the data center into the area got the blame.
So if you had a Democrat bringing in, or you had a Democrat mayor, they got blamed. And if you had a Republican support it, they also got blamed.
So it wasn't a partisan issue. Remember, Marsha Blackburn here quickly was like.
Well, we said we need to we need to relocate it.
Well, and honestly, if you were to look at something that hurt Governor Abbott in Texas the most is that he originally was very pro data center and then quickly saw that that was not the temperature of people in Texas. Yeah, really, of anybody, and reversed. And so, while he was a very popular governor, one thing people did point to was the fact that he he he was on the wrong side of where his People were at the beginning, and they lost some confidence in him when he quickly changed. I think the data center thing is such a boogeyman. I mean, I just think that if you are really looking at what's been happening in the world the last few decades, whoever ran the anti whoever came up with that that did a great job.
Which is the environmental world. It's it's. I mean, there's sure there's some legitimacy to it, but not in the way they're writing. I think we should address though what the caller Dan was talking about from Minnesota. One yes is talking about the fraud.
The the situation is going there. One that. The Department of Justice is still led by the Trump administration and can still continue to look into those situations and and discover fraud and prosecute fraud. That's a that's still a good thing that can continue and that's something that the American people have wanted.
Now, as far as like Congress doing much about it, no, I doubt they're going to look into that anymore. But I also think he said, you know, where can I find hope? One, one organizations like the ACLU. No, we have to fight harder. We have to work harder.
We don't go away when. There are losses politically. Our cause remains, but also I think the American people need to hold these people that were just elected, that were telling everyone they're running on affordability. They were telling everyone they were running on gas prices. If they just go with their with their radical agenda and do nothing, and either lawfare and radical agenda and do nothing that they ran on, then hold them accountable.
If you do impeachments and lawfare for your next two years. Until these members of the House are up for re-election again, you're not spending a lot of time on affordability, bringing prices down, and inflation. And that's because if you do impeachments, it shuts down any work going on in the House. While that's going on, the trial's going on, and it shuts down anything in the Senate when you actually have the hearing going on. And so, again, the the It cuts out a lot of time.
So Democrats who are going to try to who ran on we're going to bring your prices down, if they go right into lawfare, are not giving themselves a lot of time to even have chances to put forward policies. And here's the second part, which they may know, their policies probably aren't going to get through those two years because there's a President who can veto them. And they don't. Even though they got fairly close, they do not have a filibuster-proof majority. Yeah, let's.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow, and now your host Logan Sekulow. Phone lines are currently jammed because a lot of you want to talk about what happened last night and what it means for the future of our country. And I understand, of course. Like I said, God's in control.
We know that. But we will continue fighting these fights, and sometimes those fights are going to get on a more localized level, because when you have such a switch in leadership and in states that maybe are unexpected like Texas, we know there will be fights that will come up that even a large percentage of the locals are not going to be thrilled with. The ACLU team will jump into action. Of course, we have that with our new campaign, Stand Strong. It's a Stand Strong challenge.
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I want to jump in and take a call right off the bat here because we got a lot of people who feel pretty rough about this, and hopefully, and understandably, yeah. Let's not pretend, but let's go to Julie in Texas. Julie, go ahead. Oh man, y'all! I know that God is sovereign.
I know that He's big, and I know that He has a plan. But I am devastated for, for to be honest, because I have 32 grandkids, and only a few of them are not homeschooled. But y'all, we don't need a man like Talarico fighting against our rights as parents. This is wrong and clearly not the will of God. But He allowed it, and I believe it's because our nation has got to repent.
Yeah. Julie, I appreciate your call and and your comments. Look, you have the homeschool situation. I think those are the kind of things. I was talking to our team this morning and and last night.
I said, look, this is why some of the new ACLJ issues are going to have to be much more localized because you have now those kind of issues that are going to start coming back in a much stronger way. Those are the maybe not necessarily unintended consequences, but the consequences of who you've now put in office. Yes, no, these are the consequences if you put it off. These are people who will again they believe government. Schools are the best.
Private schools—they try to even push private schools out of the way and not make sure private schools don't get same benefits. Certainly not religious schools. Yeah, right. Exactly. That's that's really what I'm talking about.
And then homeschoolers—they they want to go after that now. Tal Rico is going to be doing it from the Senate.
So remember, that's going to be more about your new governor. Who? How much do you really even know about?
Well, and I think to that point, Jordan as well. What have we already been fighting in Texas? In Katy, Texas, a teacher that was said you can't be seen praying. Anywhere a student could see you—that's that's a case, an ongoing case. It's at the appeals level right now that the ACLU is fighting for.
So when we say stand strong, what does it mean? It means that we have to go to these places and ensure when when local officials or governors feel like they can start getting away with things, why? Because they have the cover of a blue wave, a blue tsunami. They think they have a mandate to completely eviscerate the rights of Americans. Because it doesn't fall in line with their ideology, that's what we're going to see in places like Texas.
And how do we know we're going to see it in places like Texas, Julie? Because it's already happening in Texas when it wasn't. Tallerico and the new governor there when it was Governor Abbott. It was municipalities that did this. It was local school districts.
So we don't go away because the fights don't go away either. They get harder. They get more aggressive. They feel like they can get away with more. And that's why we have to continue to fight back, and we will, and we will fight for these rights and stand strong with our Constitution, because we know we're on the right side of it.
But yeah, it's going to get tougher, but that's why we're here. Yeah, that's right. Look, we're going to continue to take calls, and phone lines are filled right now. We actually just opened up one because we just had had that caller at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. But look, this is why the ACLU campaigns will change.
Why we will have some updates before the end of the year. Because we knew that something like this could happen, I wanted our team to stay a bit mobile, and that's why federal fights too. Yeah, I mean when they say lawfare and lawyer up, we got a lot of lawyers too. Yeah, that's a lot. But we'll be back in just a minute, ears.
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We are joined now by Mark Kelly, who is our Director of Government Affairs in Washington D.C. Jordan, he's going to break some of this down. I think he's going to be the one that tells us everything's okay, right? Right? It's all on him, Mark.
Everything is fine in Washington, right? I mean, not just give it to people straight. I mean, they're looking at numbers. It's almost like overwhelming the amount of numbers. And overwhelming the amount of states that weren't even we weren't even talking about that that have got races that are have not yet been called or called were called going Democrat.
There were even in Tennessee a district that was not getting any attention whatsoever that that is appears to be going Democrat. And it looks like there'll probably be a recount there. It's so tight, but we will see. But I mean, Mark, we're seeing that across the country. Yeah, that's a fair assessment.
We have—I don't think anyone in Washington believes that the Democrats will get close to 260 seats in the House of Representatives. They won all of the contested. We don't know Alaska yet. Mississippi is within about 50 votes, I think, in the Senate. At one point last night, every single member of the North Carolina Republican House delegation was losing, and it looks like three or four of the incumbents there are going to lose.
So, it was a it was a pretty bad night for Republicans. And the mood this morning, as you're starting to hear from people as they've woken up, and and for some of us, we were up to the wee hours of the morning. It is not it's not a happy one if you're a Republican in Washington. No, of course not. And you know, talk to us about like those North Carolina races, these races like in Mississippi.
First in Mississippi, I mean. I didn't have people coming to me. I didn't. I was getting lots of text messages. I wasn't getting any text messages about hey, we need help out in Tennessee, in Mississippi.
I didn't get any text messages about the district in Tennessee, and I, you know, didn't hear a lot. I knew about a couple races in North Carolina that were going to be tighter, but I didn't think that we were going to to to suffer such heavy house losses.
So though at what point they were all behind what. You think the makeup of the house ends up there in North Carolina? Because I know I that was that last thing I heard from you. I was like, "Oh my god, did we lose every house seat in North Carolina?" For a while, it looked like that might happen. The chairman of the NRC, C.
Richard Hudson, is from North Carolina. He lost his race. Tim Moore lost his race. Brad Not lost his race. Addison McDowell lost his race.
Virginia Fox is down by about a hundred votes, and they believe there are about a thousand or more provisional ballots from students in that district, which does not bode well for her. Greg Murphy is only up by two hundred and fifty votes. It was just. The Alabama governor's race wasn't called till one o'clock in the morning, and you know you wouldn't have thought Tommy Tuberville would be still up at one o'clock in the morning waiting for his results. No, I thought those were those kind of results you imagine were going to come in the moment the polls closed.
And same thing for even Tennessee. I mean, Marsha Blackburn wins, and you know her margin. Grows and and I think it you know it didn't seem it wasn't as tight as when they finally called it, but I didn't think it was going to be you know ten o'clock at night ten thirty at night on Central Time when she was taking the stage. Right, and you've got the Scott DeJarlais race that you referenced earlier. You know that does not look good for him.
Brian Stille, who's the chairman of the House Administration Committee in Wisconsin, lost. I don't think anybody knew his race was in trouble. Mike Carey in the suburbs of Columbus lost pretty decisively last night. I don't think anybody knew he was in trouble. And and you could just go race by race throughout the country, Colorado.
Almost looked like a total wipeout for Republicans. I think only one is currently ahead there. Yeah, so I mean that that was the interesting thing, Mark. It was, and maybe it got to a point. It does.
I mean, there's waves, there are tsunamis, and when the tsunami comes, you you can't, you almost have to just say these are the ones we're going to try and save. You know, these are the ones we think we even have a shot at saving. And even in those races, the numbers were pretty big, and they affected down ballot races or other statewide races, like in Texas. Yeah, I mean, I worked for a gentleman in the house when I was there named Michael Cloud. His district in Texas typically is a ten to fifteen point Republican race.
I don't know if they've called it yet this morning. He's he's going to win that race. He's up by about seven or eight thousand votes, so he's ultimately going to win that race. There are just you could go state by state and find examples of members either that didn't know they had a race and lost, or didn't know they had a race and almost lost. Yeah, and.
Do you think that was just general misunderstanding of of the electorate, of how angry the electric was, electorate was, and how maybe the MAGA movement moved people out of just saying, you know, I'm gonna if I vote Republican, I vote Republican straight down, even when I'm not happy with everything they're all doing, and it kind of moved a whole new group of people say, you know what, I'll give them a try, but if I'm gonna continue to be a voter. I am going to give these others a try too. If if the if the other side can't perform what they say they're going to do, I mean, that's really all I can figure out is that they didn't get done what they told people they would get done, which is a better economy in two years. Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. And you saw some ticket splitting.
South Carolina, the Republican governor won by about five or seven points, and the Republican Senate candidate, Darlene Graham, lost by five points.
So there was some ticket splitting, but there was an enormous amount of enthusiasm on the Democrat side, and I think some of the Trump coalition just stayed home. I mean, without kind of overcomplicating it. Yeah. I think that's to some degree some of the you know the post mortem that will be happening over the days and weeks and months ahead of of who stayed home who who did vote and decided you know this was a time that we're gonna we're gonna show our disfavor with with the way things have gone. But I think as always, you also look at the winners here, the those that are the the new wave of Democrats.
One, you if you look even back at like the. 2010 election, which was the famous shellacking that that as President Obama called it, when the Tea Party movement really took hold and kind of went into office there. One, you have a lot of turnover in the House after those first two years. You have the the people that accidentally became members of Congress because they were caught up in the flow of the wave. I think what we're already seeing is that it doesn't appear that the the leadership of the Democrat Party.
Truly understand what happened and why last night, yet either you're already seeing the the posts that you know lawyer up, get ready for subpoenas from leadership, and you're also seeing people like Rokana that's like DEI is back, we're completely reversing everything. I think the loss messaging here on both sides is that one, I think it was about the economy. It genuinely was. It wasn't necessarily a foreign policy midterm. Which is never really the case.
It is people here at home that wanted to see something different, and they voted that way. That's. I think you're you're pretty close to hitting the nail right on the head. The Democrats with this overwhelming majority are going to have a lot of their members that want to spend their time investigating. They're going to want to go to woke 2.0 as their policy agenda, and that is missing the mark on where the electorate is.
And I think the electorate just proved we can give you 40 seats and we can take 40 seats away from you in two years.
So. They're going to have to wrestle with their majority and what they're going to do with it, and they're also, you know, they're going to pick up six or seven hundred state legislative seats.
So it's going to spread across the country in the state capitals as well. And they're going to probably find out pretty quickly in 2028 if they don't follow through on what they promised the American people, or what at least the American people thought they were voting for. That they're going to be right back in a minority pretty soon. You know what is interesting there too, Mark, and I kind of want you finish off with this one, is that you talk we talked Logan about the local battles. I mean that's what Mark is talking about right there.
Is that while it may be more difficult for some Democrats, while at least for a couple of years because President Trump has the veto power, there is the filibuster in place as of now. But when the states start changing, and they've got different rules and different ways of putting things through, and things get tough, you get a new President in two years. Yeah, you never know where things could absolutely head. And when our ACLJ team, like I said, we start needing to look back at, I mean, we're already doing so many of those things locally for the state AGs. I mean, that's why we're doing that.
Yeah, absolutely. But Mark, it's just another part of the ongoing kind of the evolution we always have to do when there is some sort of seismic shift. Yeah, and you know we've already talked about what we're going to do to monitor what the states are doing. You know, our work doesn't just stop at protecting your constitutional rights in Washington. We're very much concerned about what might be on these agendas.
The Democrats have a overwhelming majority of governorships. They just flipped several states into trifectas where they now control the House, Senate, and the governorship.
So we are going to have to monitor that very closely because. They can move quickly in state legislatures. It's not like Congress, where it seems like it takes forever to pass a bill. And they can they can go after your rights pretty quickly.
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Some good, some bad, some ugly. It's gonna be all right. Get some energy going. Yeah, we're gonna kick it off in the state of Utah. Let's go to James, but I'll hold for about 30 minutes.
James, go ahead. Hey, how you doing, sir?
Well, I see like how the economy is and stuff like that. I just pray that. We'll have our jobs as truck drivers. Pray that that God. I know God is for us, and this was going to happen.
This is what Scripture is fulfilling. All we can do is just hang. If we can just hang on a little longer and just. Keep God's word and what and what He promised us, no matter what's going on in the world. That's all.
That's all I want to say. You can't give up over like elections. You know they do have consequences, but you know what? America can turn on a dime as it did here. We elected Donald Trump after a very disputable election, twenty twenty, and he came back.
Yeah, I mean after Barack Obama. I mean that's the thing. It went from Barack Obama to Donald Trump. Back with the Republican House and a Republican Senate for two years. I mean, so okay, and then now we.
We've got this big change that's happened. We're we're really having to relook at the map completely, especially in the south, the east, and and the Midwest.
Okay, but then we could have in two years we could be looking at that again.
Now some of these races are going to have longer impacts. Senate races at six. Gubernatorial is four.
So, but the House is two.
So they they like have to start campaigning again in about six months.
Well, and especially because a lot of these races were close, and there's going to be a Presidential candidate on the top of those ballots. Two quick things for James here: one, the truck drivers, yes, if they are truly going to help the economy and try to get the gas prices down, that's the party that wants to get rid of fossil fuels. That they should prove it to the Elon Musk who's got electric driving trucks because, but that would hurt the Start driving.
So it is a give or take. Let's keep going. Let's go to Anthony, who is calling in Pennsylvania on line three. Anthony, go ahead. Yeah, I'm kind of stressed and depressed, so need some positive outlook for going forward.
I knew we'd lose the house, couldn't believe we lost the Senate. I'm worried about what the radical leftists are going to do. I volunteer with my local Republican committee. You know, getting signs out and doing other things. I've I've met some of these cat ladies, these old women.
They they they'll say, "I don't talk to MAGA." Well, how can you have a debate with anybody that won't talk to you? And the the hate. If you go to Senator Fetterman's, um, you know, Facebook or X account, just look at the hateful posts on there. I mean, what is wrong with people? Yeah, I mean, Anthony, look, I think we have to be completely aware that.
It's been a divisive time for both sides here, long period of time. Because usually a President, you know, it's it's four years or eight years, but this was twelve years of MAGA war. Yeah, I mean, yeah, twelve years. Because President Trump is speaking as we speak right now. He's on on stage speaking.
You get. President Trump always gets more access and more speeches than anyone ever. You think about the Biden administration. I didn't care for it. You know, you also didn't hear from the President every day of your life.
You know, and at our detriment, by the way, he speaks more than anyone.
So it's always happening. There is always a new clip, and it might not work. Yeah. In this day and time, where everybody can see that, yeah, exactly. And you're not just getting the 10 people that that 10 million people might have it on right then in the whole country.
It will replay for everyone whatever you said. All of your little crazy little clips will live on forever, whether it's just in text or whether, of course, you see it in context, which sometimes not too much better. That's gonna be a lot of within. We even talked about within the administration that will be interesting. Oh, this gonna be a big interesting couple.
We did a little bit with the J.D. Vance talk in the beginning. Is a whole nother show. Yeah. All right, Brandy in Minnesota here on the air.
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I'm calling from the fraud capital, Minnesota. First thing I want to say to all my believers out there is don't forget God says, "Do not fear, fear not." 365 times in the Bible, one for every single day, and He reminded me of that last night when the results came in. I have a question for you guys. Minnesota, our our terrible governor, Walz, had passed the vouching system, so that when you go to the polls.
You could bring up to eight people with you, and you could simply vouch that they live in that district, and therefore they can vote. And that's what we actually saw the last few days in Minnesota, Roseville. There's actually photos of Samoans from the Samoan community bringing multiple people and just simply vouching, and they're basically canceling out. You know, my single vote. And if you look at Minnesota, I'd say nine tenths of the state voted red, but because Minneapolis is so concentrated and concentrated with.
Over a hundred thousand Somalians, Randy. I'm only cutting you off here so we can get to a few other calls. And I just want to remind people it's not what people want to hear about today. It's kind of why we moved on from it. But our work for protecting the vote that wasn't just because of the midterm.
That's because that is the practice of of a large part of the attorneys here at the ACLJ.
So I mean, just yesterday we completed sending out twenty different letters to different twenty different localities, trying to investigate some.
Some irregularities that we are concerned about with their voter rolls.
So know that, yes, while that may be a concern of yours, our attorneys will look into that as well. But that doesn't go away just because people stop voting. We still fight for that. Yeah, and you fight for it because we've got another election and another election and another election. And what I always, and I think for those of you who are calling, especially those who've been through elections before, because I've noticed the callers today; these are callers who have been through it before.
Is there's always another election coming up?
So you're talking to your kids, you're talking to young people, and maybe they're maybe they kind of shared your political views, and they're upset too. Just remind them that there's always another election coming up, and another generation coming up, and things change quickly in the United States of America. Yeah, absolutely. I want to take at least one more call, Harmon in Florida. I think it'll be a great place to wrap up.
Don may not be able to get to you today, but we'll try. Harmon, go ahead. Yes, you know. Thank you guys for taking my call. You know, my basic concern is, you know, I've been a Republican voter for more than forty forty years as a black man, and I'm not ashamed of of that fact.
I got a lot of friends of mine that don't even speak to us because of the fact that we are Republicans and a vote Republican. I think the thing is that we have to be careful that we don't fall out. You know, stop speaking to each other. You know, stop treating each other as as human beings. Because of the way this election is gone, we still got to know that God is in control.
That God will make the difference. And if we want God to make the difference in our life, we got to be as the city is going to heal and not bow down and start doing the things that they've been doing, calling each other names and and stopping even communicating with each other. I mean, I appreciate you calling. I couldn't agree more. I think this is something that we have lost significantly over the last decade, and I don't know what the path is back, but it certainly is not going to be taking each other to court.
Yeah, so we'll we'll keep going as much as we can. And look, Don, I appreciate you calling. You know what, Don? You got like twenty seconds. Go ahead.
Let's go, Don, Illinois. He's going to hold for a while. Don, go ahead. Yeah, things to pick the call. Lessons to learn.
That's I think that's the biggest thing. Everybody should learn a lesson here. You have to have a cause to get people to vote. Yep. And what happens is I think a lot of people messed up in.
Everybody, you know, they won't come out if they don't have a cause. And we, I think they should have went more for seniors. They lost the Hispanic vote. They disenfranchised kind of in the way the black vote. And what happens is also Trump, Trump should have learned humility.
Yeah, Don, I appreciate you calling. Literally, I'm like cutting off. I think we can talk about this. Could be talking about for days too. Is the messaging that a lot of this was state messaging?
So depending on where you lived, you've got different messaging.
Some of the Candidates got it.
Some of the candidates you could see clearly did not messaging and strength of candidate. Yeah, you know, did you have anyone who was really moving the needle for you? And that is going to be something. Hoping that well, because it was a red state that was just going to fly by.
Sorry, that was Texas. Yes, Texas. And look, Tennessee was on the line for some of those too, and Alabama, way close, Mississippi.
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