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Who would have thought? That a team not going to the postseason. Again. Who would have thought a team with a history of bad quarterbacks would be uh gathering so much attention?
Well, it's because it's uh Shadora Sanders. Obviously, I'm talking about by the Cleveland Browns. Shadro Sanders gets his first career start yesterday and presses enough that we will see him again next week in their next game against the San Francisco Forty Niners. What does this mean for the team moving forward? What does this mean for Shador, Kevin Stefansky, Berry?
And then lost in a lot of this is the fact that Miles Garrett is just destroying. Every quarterback who is in front of him. Joining us right now to talk about the Browns is Scott Petrick, who covers all things Browns for Brownzone.com. Scott, thank you for the time. Sure thing, how are you doing?
I'm very well. When you take a look at Shador Sanders, what are the largest differences in the game that we saw last week versus yesterday? Yeah.
Well, obviously he had the week of practice with the first team that helped him. And I think it showed up on the ability to make some plays down the field. He tried that against the Ravens and didn't have a ton of success. but he had a huge play to Isaiah Bond yesterday to set up a touchdown. And then I thought a big area was against the pressure in the blitz He did not fade backward, which was a problem at Colorado and in the preseason and even against the Ravens.
He mostly hung in the pocket or escaped sideways. made the big throw to bond on one of those plays. I only took one sack and I thought that was important. He threw the one interception, but overall he was efficient. protected the ball and didn't have negative place.
When you think about what he did yesterday and Kevin Stafanski's decision to start him next week against the 49ers, do you think he's going to get this chance the rest of the season given what the record looks like?
Okay. Yeah.
I I would say probably. But I wouldn't go I wouldn't say it definitively. You know, they drafted Dylan Gabriel ahead of Shadur Sanders, I think without the concussion. Gabriel would still be in the starting lineup.
Now, I thought they would go to Sanders at some point. But I don't think it was happening before that Raiders game unless Gabriel had the concussion.
So I think we have to wait. I think they want to see Forre Sanders for sure. I don't think they would mind seeing more of Gabriel.
So I think it depends really on how well. Sanders plays. over, you know, I don't know if it's just based on next week, you know, will they make the decision every week? It's kind of a tough way to live. But I I wouldn't guarantee that he gets the final whatever six starts.
Scott Petrak is here with us from BrownZone.com. When you think about Kevin Stefansky and his own job security, knowing that he's balancing two rookie QBs, how is his future with the Browns tied into either one of these quarterbacks, if at all? Yeah, it's interesting. Because I think he's got a better chance to do it. If he emerges over the last seven games of the season and looks like he might be the guy, then I think that.
It's definitely helpful for Stefansky because he would have been part of the development of Sanders and it would look like, hey, maybe the Browns have the quarterback. I think what's more tangible is whoever's playing quarterback, wins matter for this, for Kevin Sfansky, and I think for Andrew Berry, too. the general manager because they're coming off three and fourteen. And as much as ownership wants to keep stability and wants to keep these two guys. there has to be a bottom line of wins.
And I don't know what that number is, But I don't think three's enough. I don't think going three and fourteen back to back seasons is gonna keep you know is enough for them to keep their jobs. Therefore, Whoever's playing quarterback needs to win. I don't know, two or three more maybe over the final six games.
So I think that is where Stefanski's future is really tight.
Well, we know that the Browns, and they hit the fast-forward button, they got two first-round picks: the one they got from the Jacksonville Jaguars for Travis Hunter. Do you think that if things don't look good between Dylan and then also Chadour over these next several games, do you think that they would strike with another quarterback, or would that be too much too soon? No, I would expect them to do that.
Now, I don't know who's coming out. in the draft and who's going to be ranked where or projected where. But Taking a guy in the third in the fifth round certainly does not prohibit a team from taking a guy in the top ten the next year. And when Andrew Berry made the trade at number two with the Jaguars, the pats on Travis Hunter. It was expressly in mind the possibility of taking a quarterback.
in twenty twenty six, having the draft capital to move around if their pick wasn't high enough. One thing that we know that they also need help with isn't necessarily the quarterback, but also. Who's on the receiving end of those passes? Jerry Judy having a downseason after a bounce back from last year. We see his quarterback situation.
And then Isaiah Bond is certainly still kind of getting his feet wet. In the NFL. What are some other areas of need specifically on the offense when it comes down to the Browns? Yeah, I mean you hit it with receiver and then Maybe equally as important is the offensive line. All five guys that are starting right now are not under contract for next year.
So there's going to be turnover. How much remains to be I think Jack Conklin either leaves in free agency or retires. I think Joel Battonio retires. they could bring back a Wyatt Teller, Reichard or Ethan Posick at Center, but they're going to need Oh they're probably gonna need a left tackle. They might need a right tackle depending on Dewan Jones Wants to be the guy, but he's finished his first three years on IR.
So I think they're going to need two tackles. You know, the defense is pretty stocked. You know, we see that from what it did yesterday and what it's done all year.
So. I think they're going to spend a lot of their draft capital on receivers and offensive linemen.
Well, Scott, you talk about the defense, man. You cover the Browns. You see everything that Miles Garrett is doing. He's going to break the sack record. What is he going to do next week?
Yeah.
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season in 2023 But right now, he's playing better than he ever has. He hasn't turned thirty yet. You know, just the tear he's on is really hard to comprehend. He's got 13 sacks in the last four games. you know, five, four, three and one, you know, not in that order, but It's just crazy.
And teams devote so much attention to stopping it. You know, it's double teams, it's triple teams. They slide, they chip, all of it. They roll away from him, the quarterbacks, and he still chases guys down. For Saks, and then Kevin Stefanski will not let us overlook this because he says that now it's kind of gotten routine every time we ask about miles.
is he says he's playing phenomenal against the run.
So it's not like he's just. showing up on third down or in past situations. He's got a ton of tackles for loss. chases down running backs when they run away from him, sets the edge when they run at him. Um you know, he Mark Andrews a couple of weeks ago in Baltimore before they played said that he might be the best athlete in the history of the NFL to play defense.
And I don't know if I can argue with that. Wow.
Well, you look at what he's doing. Just a few months ago, who knows, he's just looking for some money. He said he wanted out. We don't hear anything about that now, do we, huh, Scott?
Well, I'll tell you what, it's interesting. Right before the deadline, There were fans around here, and I think members of the media too, that felt like. It should trade miles because it's a it looks like a rebuild. And Could they get two or three first-round draft picks?
So that conversation has not died out. But he hasn't said anything about it. And it's really a complicated situation. For his whole career, he was Happy to be here. And wanted to be here and talked non-stop about trying to bring this city a championship.
He saw what You know, LeBron and the Cavs did. He knows how the city would go nuts and That was his motivation. And then I think he just got so frustrated when they went to the playoffs in 2023 and then fell flat last year. And he was just so discouraged, and he didn't see a light at the end of the tunnel, especially at the quarterback position. And I think the frustration and some bad advice led to his public Trade request and then he realized he wasn't going to go anywhere.
And I don't think it was that hard for him to come to Grips with staying. Obviously, the huge contract he got, huge extension made it easier. But I think in his heart of hearts, He always wanted to be here. The problem was could they win here? And obviously they have not solved it this year.
But I I think you can look at it and go, okay, you know, this defense is championship quality. If they get a quarterback, if you get a couple of pieces on offense, All of a sudden, it's not that far away. And I do look at New England, right? They got their quarterback. And all of a sudden, you know, they they might be the best team in the ASC.
Oh, yeah.
Well, look, he got a lot of money.
Now he just has to see if the quarterback is going to work out. And speaking of someone on that defense with him, Scott, what's the development of Mason Graham look like? Yeah.
Yeah, I just actually posted a story in my notebook and he was the lead. You know, he's been good all year, you know, kind of up and down. You see flashes and then maybe disappears for a game. And it's tough with the interior lineman. I thought he played his best game yesterday against the Raiders.
He didn't have a sack, but he might have he maybe should have had a half of one because he was in the pile on one of the ten that the Browns had. He's in the backfield all day. He ran over lineman. lit up Ashton Genti late. And I think it shows the edge that he plays with.
He's a guy that doesn't look like he's got a whole lot of edge to him, quiet. But he showed it yesterday at five tackles, four solos, one for loss. He batted a pass at the line of scrimmage. I think that was his best game. And I talked to Malik Hollins about it today, and he thinks it's just.
the natural progression for Graham So I don't know if you can say, man, he's lived up to the number five pick to this point. But I'm sure the Browns have no concerns about taking him there. Looking good so far.
Well, Scott, we've been having a lot of chat about the active players. Certainly started the conversation with Trador Sanders playing QB now. But a legendary QB, Bernie Colesaw, what's the latest on him after that liver transplant? He's okay, he's good. Yeah, he he left the hospital today, a week after Getting a liver transplant.
He walked out of the hospital. He said it was a miracle or miraculous. Um, and he turned 62 tomorrow, so Thanksgiving week. The Browns won, he's turning 62. Here's all smiles.
I was texting with them over the weekend. Just a remarkable story. I remember running into them at a training camp and he was hoping for the transplant med. And then obviously, that weight gets tougher, his condition deteriorated, and then he was able to get it last Monday. I know everybody around here, these parts, is thrilled because I'm not sure there's another athlete in the last 50 years that's more beloved than Bernie.
Hey, listen, I guess for a week, we got Browns fans who can be happy with everything that's taking place. What's the final question for you, Scott? What's the overall sentiment surrounding just the game and what we saw from Shador? People are feeling optimistic, huh? I would say yes.
Should overall, yes. And I was getting texts from guys that I haven't gotten texts from all year and said that's the best game they've seen in a long time. The defense is that dominant. Sugar, he's a polarizing figure. There's so many people that like him, but he also has his.
critics and people that he rubs the wrong way.
So, you know, I think there's a segment of the population out there that goes, man, he was 11 for 20. One of the swing passes went for 66 yards. It's not like he had a great game. And that's true. But he did show improvement like we talked about earlier.
He got a win. The Browns had one on the road, and 13 they lost 13 straight on the road.
So I do think the overall sense is optimism.
Now the question is: can Shudder build on that? and maybe turn out to be the guy because that would save a whole lot of you know, headaches in the draft if you're not looking for a quarterback. Absolutely. We know the Browns, their next game is going to be against the 49ers, and the 49ers are just a minute's away from kickoff with the Carolina Panthers. Scott, we appreciate the time.
Tell everybody where they could follow you and all your work covering the Browns. Yeah, you can read everything at brownszone.com. Just follow me on X at Scott Petrick. Hey Scott, we appreciate you. Have a great holiday week, okay?
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