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July 31, 2020 6:04 pm

Hope for the Caregiver

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger

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July 31, 2020 6:04 pm

American Family Radio general manager, Jim Stanley, guest hosted the show while Peter was out on some unexpected caregiving duties.  This episode features wonderful calls ...and some of them heartbreaking, To each of them, Jim brought a powerful message of hope and God's faithfulness to the audience in this moving episode. 

Hope for the Caregiver is the nation's largest broadcast for family caregivers. Airing on nearly 200 stations each week, this is our episode from  July 25. 

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Christmas gift why not the one she can even have a couple of chicken maybe it's not the perfect gift for your family, but it gives the perfect gift for poor family ninja chicken can break the cycle of poverty for poor family yes chicken chickens and provide nourishment for family and they can sell those exit the market for income when you donate a chicken or any other gospel for Asia. 1% of what you give goes to the field and get the ball went gospel fundraiser to support family. Jesus family this Christmas, give them six explanation see chickens and camping with us if you will be part of the show, 589-8040 888-5888 40 right that was your driving 885 888 40.

This is the show for you as a caregiver for those who are knowingly and willingly and voluntarily putting themselves between the vulnerable of what it even worse disaster maybe also your job as a caregiver is over your loved ones passed away you're still dealing with the aftermath. This is the show for you were glad that you will 888-5888 40. I am Peter Rosenberg.

I'll be out for this six segment and the show for a little bit, and I've asked Jim Staley who is the general manager American radio to step in and help cover for me because I got some unexpected caregiving responsibilities, and I'm sure that you will understand that. So turn it over to Jim and thank you all for being a part of. Thank you for trusting us with your heartache you painting your challenges.

Let's kick around some ideas together and let's see if we can't help each other navigate to a place of safety while good morning everyone. It's my privilege to sit in for Peter this morning and we kind of did bait and switch.

There'll be about be completely transparent and honest with you I asked Peter to give me a voiceover for coming into the show this morning because I didn't want you to think the substitute teacher was here and it would be okay to skip class because this is the class that you want to be sure and attend each week because it's a class hopefully of hope of a little restoration of a little rest and so this morning you know Peter starches program off each week with us with a short devotional and after I finished the devotional this morning we will be going to the phones at 888 589-8840 8885898840 and will get to that to those phone calls in just a moment. If you want to go ahead and get lined up. In fact, it's better to call in early and get on little earlier than it is to trying call in later in run the risk of not getting on and we missed a few phone calls last week. I apologize for that but I think we we did well with the ones we had. So this morning I'm looking in second Chronicles in chapter 22nd Chronicles chapter 20 and I'm going to start off at first 10 and now see what the armies of aim on Moab, and Mount Sierra doing he would not let our ancestors invade those nations when Israel left ear Egypt so they went around them and did not destroy them now see how they reward us for they have come to throw us out of your land which you gave us as an inheritance out, O our God, won't you stop them we are powerless against this mighty army that is about to attack us. We do not know what to do, but we are looking to you for help. Pardon me for help. As all the men of Judah stood before the Lord with their little ones, their wives, their children, the spirit of the Lord came upon one of the men standing there. His name was Jay his cell son of Zechariah, son of Anaya, son of JL son of man tie a Levite who was a descendent of Asaph.

He said listen, all you people here, here you go. Are you listening your people of Judah and Jerusalem because you are if you are a born again Christian. If you know Christ as your Savior, your among these people. So he says listen all you people of Judah and Jerusalem listen King Jehoshaphat even addressing the king of the country did you get that listen all you people of Judah and Jerusalem listen King Jehoshaphat. This is what the Lord says do not be afraid. Don't be discouraged by this mighty army for the battle is not yours but God's tomorrow March out against them. You will find them coming up through the assent of disease at the end of the valley that opens into the wilderness. General.

But you will not even need to fight. Take your positions then stand still and watch what the Lord watched the Lord's victory.

He is with you, O people of Judah and Jerusalem, do not be afraid or discouraged go out against them tomorrow for the Lord is with you.

Let me ask you something. What are your enemies today. One of the enemies that you're fighting against. What are those things that you're struggling against it may be an overabundance of bills. The hospital will work with you.

It's to their benefit to work with you. The doctors will work with you. What if it's a utility bill, the power company will work with you sometimes. If not, there are community resources that you can go and help find some relief maybe it's unemployment.

Maybe you been the bread renter because the the loved one in your home.

Your being the breadwinner and the caregiver be there show up every day. Work hard and remember you're doing your work, as unto the Lord, not your employer did you catch that you do your work, as unto the Lord and not your employer because the Lord your God is with you when you think about these things. Pardon me when you think about these things and you're surrounded on all fronts. Friends don't give up. Don't be discouraged by this mighty army.

Don't be discouraged by all the chaos that's going on in the United States today. Don't be discouraged. But by the size of your bank account. Don't be discouraged by that the different things. By the way, my friend Stuart Stuart Epperson Junior was on just before this program and last hour and he was talking about the widow's mite and how the Lord took those two mites that she had. That would've been enough for her to have food for the day and shield those up to the Lord and the Lord said that he had not seen you know that her gift was better than the largest money lenders gift if you will. Doesn't mean one's negated. It simply means it was the attitude of heart with which it was given but even there Jewish law said if you can afford to give your offering because you need it for food for your house, keep it for food for your house. I'm not saying don't tithe I'm not saying don't pay your bills. I'm not saying don't do any of those things. But I'm saying try to find the resources in your community.

Try the United Way try the Salvation Army try the Baptist Association, try the Methodist Association. There are ministries out there that want to help you because they're in this battle with you, maybe even your church that you attend.

They have a food pantry that might help. Maybe they have a fun there that will help you know with the bills that they can so utilizes resources. Don't let your army a pride stand in your way from what you're going to do to try and help yourself and help your family and protect the one that you that you're the caregiver to so regardless of these armies that's it that's around you and I want you to know the enemy can make them look staggering. He'll tell you. You'll never get all this paid off. You will never get to do this you will never do that. We know the God beyond the not avarice into the everlasting life. We know the God who was from the beginning and is to come. We know him and he's the one that's telling you through his prophet here in the in the 20th chapter of second Chronicles. Listen all you people of Judah and Jerusalem listen King Jehoshaphat listen Nancy Pelosi listen Pres. Trump listen VP. Hence, this is what the Lord says do not be afraid. Don't be discouraged by this mighty battle is not yours but God, I'm Jim Stanley and for Peter Rosenberger. This is how the caregiver were getting into your phone calls next AAA 589-8840 AAA 589-8840 as hope for the caregiver continues here on American family radio have you ever struggled to trust God when things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs. They became. I questioned why God allowed something so brutal to happen to me. But over time the questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing without more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis. We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in a Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of this is to point others to Christ. The source of my help and strength, please visit standing to learn more and participate in lifting others that standing I'm Gracie and I am standing with help battleground battle belongs to the Lord and there's a new name written down in glory, you know there's coming a day when the Lord returns to get to come for us and will have a transformed body to be brand-new, will have a brand-new name, the Lord promises us that so our new name is written down in glory for believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. And that's what I would encourage you with today is that while we talked about their and second Chronicles that the battle is not yours that it belongs to the Lord.

The battle is not ours that belongs to the Lord is to continue to encourage you along that very thing.

AAA 85898840. This is a live program this morning and will be taking your phone calls as soon as you begin to basically call in working to get them little earlier than normal this morning and so I go ahead and and like the phones up and will begin to get your questions in and do the best that we can to help find some answers.

I won't make anything up if I don't know I simply tell you I don't know AAA 589840. You know I was.

Pardon me, I was looking in the news and I know that's a bad place to look now days but one of the things that's coming out in the next couple of years. Is there going to do something to help deaf people be able to call in easier for emergencies or you note to be able to call in easier for TTY calls in and things like that and so they're going basically like you have 911 while now they're going to have another three digit number that's going to help with that, but it's probably about two years out and I you know I question things all the time so my question was why that was headline news from the FCC, even though it's going to be two years down the road. While I think the reason for that is, they wanted to show that they were listening to the needs that had been presented to them and that they were willing to try and help so when we ask you here at AFR to contact your senators and your legislatures. Your local senators.

Your local legislatures when we ask you to visit AFA and see the voters guide. There's reasons for that.

We want you to make the most informed decision that you can AFR will never tell you who to vote for.

We want we want. We will tell you the policies.

We will tell you some of the things that they have stood for in the past some of the things I may stand for in the future especially when it comes to cultural things, especially when it comes to life and I'm talking about life being protected literally from the womb to the tune and I and I say it like that not to be clich is not to be flippant, but because were moving quickly towards assisted suicide in our country is beginning to become more accepted your eyes I saw something the other day that said Satan is not even hiding anymore and people still can't seem and that's the truth.

If you'd like to participate in the show this morning. You can by simply calling AAA 85898840 I do ask that you you come in as a caregiver.

A recent caregiver I you know, because that's who we want to minister to.

That's it. We want to talk to about the different things I'd also invite you to visit standing that standing and while you're there, you can take and see some of the resources that Peter has available for you know Peter Rosenberger. He is our host each week on this program and this these past two weeks today today and last week he's allowed me to sit in form and it's been my pleasure to do so and so we are a participatory show the program. I without your participation. You just hear me ramble or you hear Peter continue to talk and both he and I would tell you that's not what we want to do.

We want to talk with you. We want to minister to you.

We want to pray for you. We want to do the different things that we can to help you as a caregiver in the situation that you're in. Peter and I were talking and I was telling him that I had been a caregiver. Even in my teenage years, but I didn't know it because we didn't call it that. Back then we called it then which mom said do and so we had some mentally challenged young men who lived in our home with us and also then even in my art later teens I was a partial caregiver to my mom and stepdad is neither of them drove and so I took them different places and again. Back then we didn't have the term caregiver.

We didn't know I get again we didn't necessarily realize or recognize that what that was.

And that's the reason Peter talks about this show being so unique because this is a show that reaches out to those who are taking care of other people, by the way, moms or caregivers dads can be caregivers because they are either caring for the younger children are there caring for their elderly parents. And you know one day we may need caregiving eyes in so we want to be faithful to do what we can.

I saw funny the other day.

It was a short video and it had a grandmother in the wheelchair in the rear end of a pickup truck and they had the wheelchair strapped down but they were going down the road and the grandmother was in the back and her hair was blowing in the wind. I do not recommend that as a form of transportation. But I sent that to my mother-in-law and I told her we would never make her ride like that in the truck that we might think about it, but we hope we wouldn't do that. And so you know we were all caregivers to a certain extent. Some are just more full-time than others and my mother-in-law was caregiver to my father-in-law along with me and my wife for many years.

My wife and mother-in-law, much more so because I would be at work during the day and generally would come and help in the afternoons and sometimes on the weekends and then before that you know about helped with my mom a little. My wife help more there and ultimately we had to make the choice to put her in an assisted living facility and the reason we did that is because she had progressed to the point that we could no longer for her safety take care of her because she was trying get out of bed and we were going to tire to the bed. She would try and do these different things and and you know she was to the point that she needed 24 hour continuous care so we chose to put her in that home you may be able to continue to care for your parents. Even after that and if you can. God bless you. You know if you're able to do that, then that's fantastic for those that can't. I would encourage you to to really check out the assisted living care facility before you trust them with your mom or with your dad AAA eight 589-8840 AAA 589-8840 is the number to call this morning standing standing while you're there, you'll learn about Gracie's ministry a prostatic's and have their working to help those and even that were some of their help comes from is conical. They work with the prison there in Tennessee that helps refurbish some of these a couple of books that Peter has available to you once called seven caregiver landmines and I would strongly recommend that book as well as his original hope for the caregiver which is weird.

This program gets its name from AAA 589840. Also while you're there, you can check out Gracie's project of standing with and that's where she has done some some songs and music and will have a part of those for you here in just a bit as we returned from a break, but let's go to the phone lines now. This morning, and we are going to talk to Martha, calling from Tennessee Martha good morning, how are you feeling back there tomorrow night. Good. Now you said more rest last night.

So part of your caregiving takes you into the overnight hours as well.

Well at contacting Karen on reason for countering discounted gang yes-men are more for our wedding anniversary and I were kind and after we are handed to a party where we could seek out around family khaki Kader over southbound that we could hear a Kader, which very grateful that hear my prayer request this historically had no AC power with target now my patient. Not one resident, Megan learn flight training outside and cursing. My comments are in cardiac morning and tell me that had a staff member hardcoded and I had to cancel the firestorm can help me for a person that's coming out are actually being in person again another night. Hard to say the only one he struggling and I think I think because stratified monomeric you know because I'm what I just turned 70 and now you know how my ego out and congratulate and it's like we are with you isolated from and I don't know crank that I don't take that you are misplacing for that forthright programmer and I won't forget her, her gait, I will never forget and uncle and I share it with everybody and has caregiving ran right will be starting at the end of the current and outdated and people are standing what we've been through we didn't need to go straight back and ran and fairly command climate that I would appreciate prayers as I tell you what is seen as we come back from break.

Can you hold on just a minute.

Okay, I get to put you back on hold, therefore, for moment as we get a break and come back and on the other side of the brain like a long time to not go to the doctor's office not hope for the caregiver on AFR. Continue straight ahead, I'm Peter Rosenberger and this is your caregiver minute as caregivers we are weary, fearful, wounded souls, trying to stay between vulnerable Loveland and even harsher circumstances, but the grim things we face can cause our hearts to daily break and we cry out for relief and to feel better. During our journey as a caregiver can be many times where we will feel better someone we love suffers and were often powerless to do anything about it. You never go to feel better about that, but that's not the goal.

The goal becomes to be better as we journey through this often long valley of the shadow of death, and to be healthier on every level, physically, emotionally, financially, spiritually, we can be healthy while caring for someone who isn't even if we feel heartbroken over what we must do is caregivers were not always going to feel better, but we can be better and let's do this together. This is been your caregiver minute with Peter Rosenberger brought to you by standing with.

There's more information that standing and today and again.

It's my privilege to be here now that song is from Gracie Rosenberger and it's called balm in Gilead. If you cannot preach like Peter if you cannot pray, like Paul, you can tell the love of Jesus and say he died for all, there is a balm in Gilead to make the wounded hole. There is a balm in Gilead to heal the sin sick soul. And yes there are a lot of physical illnesses that we struggle with here on a daily basis. There are a lot of sometimes even mental fatigue that can lead to mental illness.

There is anxiety that can lead to mental illness and so these things are there, but friends never forget, as I said earlier the battles, not ours belongs to the Lord. AAA 589-8840 AAA eight 589-8840 right now were talking to Martha from Tennessee and Ms. Debbie will be with you in just a couple minutes but Martha what I was saying just before the break is that even here in Tupelo. If a loved one was taken to the emergency room in an ambulance, a loved one was not allowed to go in the hospital with them. There were no elective surgeries and what salute what's one person's classification of of elective may be someone else's classification of needed, but it was it was taken out of the individuals hands and this was being decided by state health departments and and even national health departments, and so I understand where you where you're coming from there and I do want you to know that we here at AFR we know we understand when people walking through coveted, we understand. When loved ones and and fellow staff members are involved and we had been blessed for many many months and just a couple weeks ago we had our first employee for staff member who tested positive for covert and so you know we went through the the sanitizing and had everybody else kind of watching to make sure that that they weren't getting sick or having symptoms to and so Miss Martha I told you, and any note to it, to a degree, you're right.

I think because we forget about the healthcare workers even in the nursing homes and a lot of times we think well the patients are being cared for. But we forget even there about the ones who were giving them care and we forget about the nurses and doctors who are at the hospitals treating our loved ones. We fruit we talk about first responders and folks they are tremendously important.

I am 100% back to blue that there may be some bad apples there. Let's get some of them out but you've got 98% of the apples are good so don't throw away the harvest because of a few bad ones. Let's get rid of the bad ones. And we also want to you to be in prayer for our redline if you will.

And that's the fired apartments in the ambulance and paramedics and things so there's a whole host of our country that their job is to take care of us. We think of of our men and women who serve in the Armed Forces. They go beyond the borders to help protect what we believe here in America.

So yes, ma'am, you're absolutely right.

There's a whole host of people that we need to pray for, but this morning what your husband's name what to this morning. Let's pray for Gary for his personal carry our Gary Malik are why I was well yes ma'am I will tell and you said that house that okay let's put pray for Jerry, his home and then also the care workers as a whole is as a whole. Father God this morning. We thank you for the reminder from your Scripture that even this battle is not ours but it belongs to you and father for those who are receiving care in the personal care homes from those who are in the recovery centers to those who are in the hospitals without loved ones there to support them and father even to those that are there with a loved one to support them. We ask that you administer to the men and women.

The massive amount of went men and women who are helping to care for them.

Lord, for the loved one. Of those that they can't get to them. They may not be able to physically touch them or hug them and they themselves sometimes need those hugs, father remind them that you're there and we can cry, Abba, father, Lord. It's not easy. Nothing's clich.

Nothing's flippant Lord. It's not easy but that's why you remind us that you're with us. That's why you remind us to take your yoke upon you, take our your yoke upon us, Lord, I get it right. The key father this morning that we might welcome the being co-yoked with Jesus, who himself stands at the right hand of the father making intercession for us today.

And Lord were so glad that you promised that whosoever will may come were so glad that you promised that you sent your son for all and that simply what it means is not ambiguous. It simply means all so the father this morning minister by your spirit renew those this morning by your spirit who are discouraged and who are hurting and yes Lord for those that are dealing with the set of side effects of the coronavirus of Kevin 19 father for those that are dealing with pneumonia and influenza, and a host of other things father for those that are dealing with AIDS this morning, father. Regardless of the illness we know that you are our balm in Gilead so minister today. We ask in Jesus name, amen. Miss Martha thank you for sharing this morning I sure appreciate it. Got bless you, all right bye-bye go talk to Debbie, calling from Ohio. Now Debbie good morning welcome to hope for caregiver good morning, how are you I am good but the question is how are you feeling warm wow I have to questions if you don't mind. Okay okay so I my primary caregiver for my two accounts sounds with developmental disabilities. They reside with me. I'm a single parent and also I tried to assist one of my siblings and caring for our elderly mom so my two questions are.

I guess I'm not sure where my priority where the Lord would prefer me to focus most of my attention is in caring for my two sons or in caring for my mom might hold on you. Hold on, Debbie. Next, let's talk about that when first okay and let's go back to my original question.

How are you doing because it sounds like you're struggling.

Yes, I feel conflicted I sometimes vacillate between you know my standards are you now in their late 20s. My mom is in her late 80s focus more on how how I can help out with mom and I vacillate back to you know Mike, I felt like my sons by my primary right and or ministry 50888 will let me.

Let me share something with you that I've heard Peter say before and I think this answer may surprise you. The person you need to take care of most is you, because if you don't take care of you.

You're not going to be any good to your boys are to your mom that you said your your jobs kind of shouldering this responsibilities with a sibling for your mom. So maybe see, instead of it is it's only one sibling, or do you have a couple of others. Wow, I find that brings two of them live out of state. One of them got what he can buy Colleen to check on my mom several times throughout the week just to get her that emotional support and the other sibling usually asked if there is a monetary need to do whatever for my mom, you know she is first And that way and then the four of us who are here in town we we do try to collaborate, but more often than not it's one oppressor to have no more than the other two Evas wells and far be it for me to to tell you how to work within your family because you know them much better than I ever will. But do they have caregiving needs at home that they are also having to to help with because you're telling me that you're a single mom and I get that means you have to carry the responsibility for those two souls in your home by yourself and then you're still trying to go in and in caring for your mom is great. You know the Scripture tells us to honor our father and mother because that's that is the first commandment with the promise of long life you know and so as we honor them. Caregiving is part of that. But if you have a couple of other siblings. Maybe instead of doing half or third maybe they can help you come down to the fourth of the caregiving needs there and I'm not saying abandon your mom that is not what I'm saying at all. I'm but I'm saying that remind them that you have things going on at home that you have to take care of two and and just you said you guys are all you know the child collaborate about your mom. Remind them about the needs of your house and maybe see if they would come and give you a break one night, you know, maybe they could come in and sit one night and if they could do that. I know that that would that would probably help you as well so what's your next question in and if you can tell me before the break. I'll try and answer right after okay here might bring about whether to seek time outgroup calm or fight with me I will tell you what Debbie hang on and will come back and talk about that just a little after okay this is something the caregiver on American family radio Jim Staley and for the great Peter Rosenberger will be back right after this they dispute Rosenberger dear help somebody walk for the first time I've had that privilege many times through our organization. Standing with when my wife Gracie gave up both of her legs follow this horrible Rick that she had as a teenager and she try to save them for years and if it just wouldn't work out.

And finally she relinquished up and thought wow this is that I'm now heavy legs anymore. What can God do with that and then she had this vision for use in prosthetic limbs as a means of sharing the gospel to put legs on her fellow amputees and that's what we been doing now since 2005 was standing with who we work in the West African country of Ghana and you can be a part of that through supplies through supporting team members through supporting the work that we're doing over there. You could designate a limb. There's all kinds of ways that you can be a part of giving the gift that keeps on walking and standing what you take a moment ago understanding and see how you can give they go walking and leaping and praising God. You could be a part of, welcome back to hope for the caregiver here on American family radio Jim Balian for Peter Rosenberger.

I invite you to visit Danny with standing with and you can find some excellent resources there that Peter and Gracie have available and I think I mentioned last week, but Peter is quite the pianist and so if you enjoy instrumental music.

If you enjoy piano music. I do not encourage you to listen to that as well. We were on where on the phone now with Debbie from Ohio and just a quick recap Debbie as a single mom who is caring for two sons, and then also splitting her time to help care for her mom and so right now were talking. She just posed the question about group home situation for her sons, Debbie.

Tell me a little a little more about what you mean about that. So my my long-term goal is to do as much as possible. Prepare my signs for life after I am no longer here. Their dad is still alive and we are actually both co-guardians for our son know ideally if I passed away.

Our sons would go to live with their dad died. If for whatever reason he's unable to unwilling to, or perhaps maybe he predeceases me. My goal would be to have my signs familiar enough with living and in all living in a group facility, a group home for you now to receive care because they are unable to live independently of course.

And so I hate iDisk.

I struggle with you now. Should I be exploring those options now and and or just just cannot wait and see that they have they have a brother who prior to getting married last year had said you know yeah mom and dad if anything ever happened to the both of you Aaron and Matt can come live live with me, but now that he's married. He's been married since last September. I haven't had that conversation with him just to recap and say hey now to both you and your life is that something that you guys would be willing to do and it and I guess I don't even want to put my son and his wife and that situation in that setting me coming that is that's admirable. However, don't rob the sun of the book, brother of a blessing. Okay, now here here's what I would recommend.

I would recommend having the tough talk with your other son and his wife, because they're also going to look at that may be a family of their own and that's going to play into care.

You know being extended caregivers to the two brothers. Don't be a hero. Don't try so all of this by yourself.

That's a great Southern colloquialism there don't toted on your own high archiving for the year and therefore you so when you when you do that what happens is you wind up exhausting yourself so don't be a hero be a mom who loves her sons and who loves her mom but also takes time for herself.

So if if exploring the group home is an option, and it's financially feasible for you, I would at least go and have that visit, I would at least go in and maybe even have someone from staff.

They are come and talk to the three of you together so that all three of you will have in our four of you would have been put to that you know and look at it that way again. Pick the facility very carefully because you don't want to feel guilty. And don't let Satan make you feel guilty that you're abandoning those boys because that's not what you're looking to do what you're looking to do is to make sure that they have long long-term caregiving on the other side. Does that make sense at all lately. Yes, you're right. I felt guilty yeah that's a hard place to be because you when you're with your mom, you feel guilty for not being with you boys and we do with boys you feel guilty for not being with your mom, you got a in at some point. Don't forget you gotta save some time for Debbie to so have those conversations call us back and let us know how it's going. Would you do that for me Sarah here while I Debbie got bless you.

Thank you. Yes ma'am. Thank you.

S this is hope for the caregiver on American family radio. Jim Stanley in for Peter Rosenberger this morning and never get to talk to Elaine from Oklahoma Lane welcome to explore part of me not exploring the word, but to hope for the caregiver here and exploring the word I would say and I want you here for school graduate and I worked in a number of job but I took careful. My mother died of Medicare in 1992. My father had congestive heart failure card issuing in 2008 was simply because every pantry separated and they all basically thought different things should be done and we could get online with something but when it came to finding there were five because I would here take care of him that I was going to get caring get what they needed and Jan were there there there was money there but I say a good support system.

I had an incredible church and what if for some reason I complained I could get to the server, sometimes not.

They would be only eight I and I had talked with my dad to we were able to get in her time with my mom but with my dad. I had had for so I had a couple day a couple hours a day and I need to go upstairs with the paper when I get running around for groceries or whenever, but the biggest thing is lay just before me. Hopefully she'd have the social worker family that he can work with boy my heart goes out to her like my children were teenagers at the time. Then they understood what was going on, but it was still, I was torn because I was still working three days a week. Besides no but a good support system that is one of the biggest thing simply to be able to try to be on board is much as possible. Just when I said were there so challenge but I don't regret any of that. You know, like you said were sent onto your father and your level on your school going back. I better look at the fact that she ended up going to bring a Bible college so that I have a lot of that is what you can do a good support and the word I write with the word amen thank you Elaine. We sure appreciate that and never get to talk to Susan calling from Oklahoma this morning. Susan good morning and welcome to hope for the caregiver. How are you feeling fine. I'm not caregiver to her anymore and I bring it back in caregiver, and yes ma'am you are welcome to. Well I think I my father when I cared for him quite years ago and I held the caregiver because I remember when my father really I think probably remember that I could command the particular doctors. The doctor, I don't think I don't think I picked him out that in our family get together and pick out a doctor. I don't think my choice anyway that Dr. Kohn well you know my dad with everything on it and trying doctor decided to get on the cognitive on and very drain out to get him a cognitive why would you give somebody on a melodic question like that not feeling well and try to think like that, and on my hair, careful of Dr. Mike at and that on something I think it is called Eric that I think that was called back on never and on.

He did get off that people can get some medicine and even on many things in the world that can affect affect your thinking and I didn't do well on cognitive and common over my objection and outline back. Not forever. Now I will say this. If you are working with the doctor make sure it's a doctor you trust, make sure that it's one and I say this to any caregiver. Make sure that the medicine that the doctors prescribing. Have them explain clearly why they're wanting to prescribe that medicine but but ultimately you said in again. Susan, this is nowise penalizing you please hear my heart here.

Ultimately it's the caregiver. If the persons living at home and you're taking care of them at home, then you're the one that actually puts the medicine in the cup and if it's a medicine you don't agree with, then don't use it you don't have to but if it's what the doctors recommending make sure you're not just being be careful with yourself sometimes to I guess this is what I'm eating there because certainly we go to the doctors because we trust them to help with what's best for us.

But sometimes the different medicines can give off side effects and then you wind up on medicines for the side effects to be real careful with that. Pray with your doctor can and make sure you make the best choice you can live. Jim Stanley that's been my privilege to host hope for the caregiver again this week. Peter should be back next week. Have a great weekend.

Stay tuned to AFR. Hey this is John Butler, producer hope the caregiver and I have learned something that probably all know that Gracie, his wife lost her legs many many years ago and started a prosthetic limb outreach ministry called standing with her, and recently they ended up with a rather unique and unexpected partner, Peter had a conversation with Gracie and take a listen Gracie. When you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach. Did you ever think that inmates would help you do that, not in a million years.

When you go to the facility run by core civic over in Nashville and you see the faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you have helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and orange everything when you see all this. What do you make me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is to be locked someplace where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out course, being in the hospital so much and so long and so that these men are so glad that they get to be doing as as one man said something good family with my hands. Did you know before you became an amputee that parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled. Now I had no idea and I thought of Peg leg. I thought of wooden legs. I never thought of titanium and carbon legs and flex the sea legs and all that. I never thought about that as you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people they'll walk there, providing the means for the supplies to get over there. What is it do to you.

Just on the heart level.

I wish I could explain to the world.

What I see in here and I wish that I could be able to go and say the this guy right here Denise go to Africa with us. I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me have to leave. I don't want to leave them.

II feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like we have a common bond that would've never expected that only God could put together. Now that you've had experience with it what you think of the faith-based programs. The core civic offers. I think they're just absolutely awesome and I think every prison out there should have faith-based programs like this because the return rate of the men that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know about this one are.

It is just an amazingly low rate compared to those who don't happen and I think that that says so much that has anything to do with me just has something to do with God using somebody broken to help other broken people.

If people want to donate or use prosthetic limbs, whether from a love one who passed away or you know somebody well groomed.

You've donated some of your own for the did have it out of the do that please go to standing with staining excretion

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