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Chris Vanninin: Texas Is In That Top 5 Group of National Championship Contenders

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The Rich Eisen Show discusses the latest in NFL and college football, including Monday Night Football, quarterback performances, and the Heisman Trophy race, with a focus on the NFC North division and the Green Bay Packers.

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Oh yeah. Power number two on this October 14th, 2024 on this Monday, a football Monday. We got a lot to get into as we get into tonight. Monday night football, the Robert Sala-less Jets take on the Buffalo Bills. Everybody's team of September. Every year. It's the September MVP and best team in the NFL in September. Once we get to October, what happens to the Buffalo Bills? We'll get into a lot of that.

Your phone calls though, 844-204-RICH, 844-204-RICH. If you saw something that I missed, that we missed this weekend when it comes to college football, NFL, even baseball. I mean, I had my eyes peeled on baseball for a second. And then all of a sudden you look up, it's like eight, nothing, nine, nothing. You're like, okay, I'm done with baseball for the night.

And the ALCS, I'm sorry, the NLCS and the ALCS starts today. So a lot to get into with that. Let's go to the phone lines because I want to get Rich in. Not Rich Eisen, but our buddy Rich. Rich, you're on the Rich Eisen show. Kirk Morrison here filling in for Rich. Rich in Maryland. What you got, Rich? Hey guys, how's it going?

What's up brother? Well, as a Washington commanders fan, I am very encouraged by what I saw when they played Baltimore. I mean, they went toe to toe with the best the NFL has to offer. And I am now even more sold on Jayden Daniel because he took a lot of hits in the chops and just kept swinging and he delivered some throws that just took your breath away.

So defensively, they got to get things cleaned up, but I think if they can do that, I think there'll be a force. You know what, I agree with you, Rich in Maryland. I'm not concerned with Jayden Daniels at all. The dude is, he's balling. He's playing some really good football. And I don't think we're not giving enough credit to his offensive coordinator. There are some guys in the National Football League that may struggle as head coaches. It is an art to be a motivator of a group of men. It is an art. It's not easy. A lot of people think just because a guy can call plays, he can also be a head coach.

It's a little bit different when you got to stand in front of 53 men. But their offensive coordinator, Cliff Kingsbury, the dude can call some plays now. He can call some play. He's dialing it up for the young quarterback and watching that chemistry has been outstanding so far. We got Chris? Not yet.

Okay. Yeah, we get Chris in a minute. Chris Vanini will be joining us, senior writer for the athletic. Because I'm watching Jayden, and that's an unreal record, I believe. Is it 22-1? 23-1 Lamar Jackson versus NFC teams. In his NFL career, NFL career, Lamar Jackson has only lost one game, 20.

NFC team? 22-3. 22-3? Wait, he's 22-3? Really?

I don't know. It's a crazy stat that I saw. I'm always looking at it, but I will pause it there for a minute as Chris Vanini, the senior writer for college football for the athletic is joining us. And Chris, man, what a weekend of college football.

Saturday, we got it. We saw a little bit of everything. I'll start with the biggest game I think of them all, Oregon versus Ohio State. What did this game prove or did it prove anything to college football that these are still, regardless, two of the best teams in all of the country? Yeah, I think it showed they're two of the best. I think it showed Oregon can compete at that top level, something we weren't sure about, something they haven't done yet under Dan Lanning. They've lost a lot of those big games close.

They finally got one of those. And if you're Ohio State, I think there's a little bit of concern. I think a lot of people thought this was the most talented team in the country coming into the season and cornerbacks were not great. They got beat deep.

The defensive line didn't get a sack. I think this is still a very good Ohio State team, but in terms of national championship favorite, I think they're maybe not at that level. They're in this group with a few other teams. I mean, with the $20 million roster in Ohio State, it's still a team that we're considering. So you still say that they're a college football playoff contender, but are they national championship contenders?

What do they need to work on in the next weeks, with the weeks ahead? Yeah, well, they got Penn State coming up in a couple of weeks. That's going to be a gigantic, probably top five matchup between those teams. And I think if you're Ohio State, you got to be better on the defensive line. Again, Ryan Day is 0-3 against Michigan.

He's 0-2 against Oregon. And the defensive line has only gotten one sack in those games. And that defensive line is full of guys who turned down the NFL, who got a lot of NIL money to stay and come back. You have to be able to pressure the quarterback much better than that. That's what your defense is really based around. And like, I thought Will Howard played fine, played pretty well.

Obviously the slide at the end is not what you want, but that was kind of a weird play. And if they don't call that offensive pass interference on Jeremiah Smith, Ohio State maybe kicks a field goal and wins that game. And the conversation is a bit different, but those margins are the difference between winning and losing when you're in these top five matchups. And Ryan Day is now 2-6 against top five teams. You know, one of the other big games on Saturday, Chris, was obviously the Red River Showdown, Texas and Oklahoma. And there was, you kind of got a sense that is it still the same like luster of it now, not big 12 teams anymore, two SEC teams, but yet you clearly watched that football game and it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Texas and Oklahoma. There was a wide gap between these two teams.

We saw it on Saturday. We know where Texas is. I thought it was like Oklahoma didn't look like an SEC football team where Texas still looks like the best team in the country. Yeah, I think Texas is still in that group. It took a little bit for Quinn Ewers coming back from the injury to get things going. He threw an interception on his first pass.

He missed a couple of those earlier, but he settled in as it went on. And I think Texas is in that top four, top five group of national championship contenders. They've got a big one with Georgia coming to town this week for Oklahoma. They've been decimated by injuries. Their top five receivers are out. The offensive line has been banged up and has been missing some things, but still you gotta be better than this in year three, under Brent Venables, you had Jackson Arnold, you're hyped up former five-star quarterback. He was supposed to be the guy who carries you into the future. He gets benched in the fourth game of the season.

We haven't seen him since. And so the offense is just a mess. The defense is much better.

Brent Venables has fixed that side of the ball like he was supposed to. They are recruiting pretty well, but offensively, they just have not had any answers. They have not had any depth and this you're right. This, this does not look like an SEC team on offense, or at least what we thought from Oklahoma coming in. This is a team that never has a losing season. This is a team that's always winning 10 games a year. And now you're looking for the second time in three years.

They're probably not going to hit that mark. Senior writer, college football for the athletic Chris Vidini, joining the Rich Eisen show, Kirk Morrison here filling in for Rich. Look, I've been excited all season long because now we're getting to this slate of conference games, Chris, where I only thought I would see these in January, right? And I'm talking about last week, Penn State coming to Los Angeles to take on the USC Trojans. You just mentioned it. This will be a Sugar Bowl matchup, Texas and Georgia. And yet I get to see this in the middle of October. Let's start there with this matchup.

How huge is this game? Is this an elimination game for Georgia? Who's already lost one game on the season to Alabama. They lose two conference games. They're going to be looking at an at large bid, but I can't believe that this could be an early elimination game for Georgia where yet Texas is still showing people that this is the game for them to show everybody. They truly are the number one team in the country.

Yeah. I mean, the SEC really is kind of beating itself up right now. There's only one undefeated team. It's Texas. And so if you're any of these other teams, you start racking up those losses. If you get to nine and three, you're going to be on that bubble.

You may not be in. We saw it with Ole Miss. They lose to Kentucky in a surprising upset. Then suddenly you lose to LSU and you've got two losses and you have, I think, Georgia still on the schedule.

And suddenly your season has dramatically changed what you thought it could be. Georgia lose to Alabama. They've got Texas. Now they've got some other tough games as well. And those losses can rack up. And it's not just whether you're in the playoff or not as well. If you need to get to the SEC championship game to play for the buy you want, or you want to host a first round game. If you don't get a buy versus playing on the road, it was going to be very different scenarios for seeding. And I think with the playoff, a lot of us are thinking, well, they're probably going to make it in any way.

So it doesn't really matter. No, because you get those losses racking up. You may not be in, you may be on that bubble. And if you do get in, you may be going on the road to play a Penn state or somebody like that.

And your path gets a lot more difficult. So the SEC has a lot of games in the second half of the season that are going to be elimination games. And if Georgia gets a second loss here, suddenly, yeah, they will be on that bubble of, I don't know if this team's going to make it by the end of the season. You mentioned Penn state has USC covered tight end Tyler Warren yet. Are you, are you, are you sure you're aware of this?

Please let me know. 17 catches tying the FBS record catches by tight end in a single game. He was unbelievable.

James Franklin has been really high on this guy for a long time and you can see why. And not only that, he completed a pass for nine yards. He also snapped the ball one time. This guy can do everything. And that was an unbelievable performance.

And he brought them back and helped them come back to win that game out there in LA. Chris, we're in a world of NIL. We're in a world of the transfer portal. We're in a world of guys moving, coaches moving. And yet here we are on Monday, October 14th, an army and Navy are ranked.

Tell me what world are we in now, Chris? What kind of world are we in in college football where army and Navy are ranked football teams? This isn't the ordinary army Navy anymore. Well, then they've been dominant. I mean, Navy beat Memphis, Navy beat Memphis, who was a favorite to win the American and maybe reached the playoff and army has not trailed all season.

And so they have been really dominating who they play. Now the schedules haven't been the toughest army hasn't played a team with more than two wins and Navy's played one team, but that was a five and one Memphis team that they beat. And so you've got some games coming up in the second half of the season. Notre Dame has to play both of these teams.

And that could be a bit of a challenge. Army's got to play North Texas still Navy's got to play to lane. So there are some big games in the American athletic conference coming down. And by the way, that army Navy game is after the conference championship.

It's after the playoff field is decided. So there's a chance we could get an army Navy conference championship game. The winner may make the playoff and then they have to play the next week.

Anyway, for a game that's basically just about bragging rights and the commander in chief's trophy. And then one of those teams will then have the playoff game. So it really is kind of a wild scenario.

I don't know if anybody expected, especially the first year of the 12 team playoff. But yeah, army Navy, the troops both ranked for the first time since 1960. See, I love chaos, Chris. That's the chaos that I love that we could possibly have a game where the army Navy game is just a game. And yet both teams have a chance to really shake up the college football play office.

That's what I love about this sport, man. Senior writer, college football for the athletic Chris Fadini joined the rich eyes and show. I was talking a little bit of USC because they had a great week one win and all of a sudden they've lost. Now they're at three and three, and we're not talking about the team that they lost to. Cause if, remember the world was caving in after week one, remember Brian Kelly and LSU, what is going on?

I need to coach better. We got to be better kind of called out as players. And yet they won the last four games in a row. They look like a much better football team. And now they could be that team that is now creeping its way back into the conversation of a possible conference championship game, not necessarily in that large bit, but trying to still have a chance to win the SCC.

Yeah. They they've been kind of gritting these games out. They had to come back to beat South Carolina.

They come back to beat Ole miss. They didn't lead in that game until the final play of the game. That's they had to make that comeback and almost couldn't put the game away when it had the chance. The defense is getting better. That was the weakness of this team for the last couple of years. It's why Jayden Daniels could win a Heisman trophy and the team couldn't make the playoff. Even though this defense lost Harold Perkins, the star pass rusher at linebacker, it's still getting better.

And that's a good sign. And Garrett Nussmeier, the quarterback didn't have a great game against Ole miss, but he just kept sticking in it and made enough plays at the end to win the game. And yeah, that was maybe almost a playoff eliminator game between LSU and Ole miss last year. And LSU still got a pretty tough schedule to go. They've got Alabama still to play, but you win those games, you keep advancing every week. You're going to be in that playoff picture at the end of the end of the year or the SCC picture. Cause again, everybody's dropping some unexpected games.

And so LSU, you know, we kind of, they lose that first game against USC. We kind of put them on the back burner for awhile and suddenly they're back here as a top 10 team and a team you have to think about again. You know, one of the things you mentioned on some of these SCC teams beating each other up, I think the big 10 will start to play itself out a little bit more. I've been hanging out in the big 12 over the last couple of weeks, watching how that conference is just wide open. Avery Johnson had a big game for Kansas state last week. We're watching what's going on at BYU.

They're an outstanding team. I say all this to bring up what I'm seeing from Ashton Gente. I'm not no newcomer to him. He's been doing it since his freshman year there at Boise state, but because of these teams are beating each other up throughout the power four conferences and watching him consistently week in and week out, put up the numbers. I feel like he is the favorite for the Heisman and with the injury to Travis Hunter, we don't know how long he's going to be out for Colorado.

I really feel like Ashton Gente over the next couple of weeks can kind of distance himself in that Heisman trophy talk as these other teams continue to beat each other up in the power four conferences. Yeah, I believe he still is the favorite in Vegas right now to win that Heisman trophy and his numbers are unbelievable. He's on pace to break Barry Sanders single season rushing record, potentially by the conference championship game. If he plays in a playoff, it could be even more. He's averaging 9.9 yards per carry halfway through the season. He's up to 1248 yards through six games, but that's not actually six games. He has sat out the second half of two games. So he's really rushed for more than 1200 yards in five games.

It's unbelievable. The big runs he's making, the tackles he's breaking. You have a lot of teams that are loading the box because they know he's the guy you got to stop. And when he breaks the tackle of that safety, there's nobody back there. He's got 70 yards to go.

This has been an unbelievable season. He's going to get 2000 yards pretty quickly here soon, something that I think he had made a bet where he'd cut off his hair. If he didn't get to 2000 yards or something like that, that's that. I don't think that unless he gets hurt, I don't think that's going to be an issue.

And if he continues at this pace and the fact that nobody else from the top teams has really stood out, he's in a good position to get to that Heisman trophy ceremony. Oh, I love it. I love it.

That's the storyline I'm going to keep watching as college football continues to get to November, where the separation really starts to begin. Chris, man, always appreciate the time. I love following you on Twitter, formerly X, whatever, or X, formerly Twitter, whatever it may be. But I follow you every single week, man. Appreciate everything that you do. And we'll catch up with you soon.

Okay. Thanks for having me. That's Chris Fanini. He's a senior writer for college football for The Athletic.

Man, he's a great source of information and news because there's so much to get caught up on each week. There's injuries of just looking at Graham Mertz, who's the quarterback at Florida. He's now out for the year because of DJ Lagway, who's a young, young, true freshman. Benjamin Morrison, yes, great last name, the outstanding defensive player for Notre Dame.

He's out now for the season. So a lot of things that can shake up the college football world as this season is one that we've never seen before. And I've been excited to get to it. So I had to get a segment of college football, but it's still about this NFL. It's really about this NFL, especially tonight. Monday night football already has the storylines in place. Robert Salas, New York Jets.

I like saying that. And then also the Buffalo Bills. Like, who are they? Are they the team that we expected them to be?

Or are they looking, you know, what was funny though? Remember last week, how I like last week, it was all about where does Devante Adams go? Right? Think about like, what's the theme of the week? And this week Devante Adams is now relaxed.

He's cool now. Well, we're going to figure out how to work it out. Cause I always felt that there is no team that really wants to pay that price for the rest of the season for a wide receiver, knowing that you can get a Mari Cooper for a lot more, less, a lot more affordable than what Devante Adams bring. But this is a week to week league. And a week to week league is how you feel. One week will be much different the way you feel. You feel next week.

And I feel like tonight, Monday night football, is it a must win for the Jets? Cause I looked at the stat only one team in the Superbowl era, one team in a Superbowl era has made the playoffs after changing their head coach in the middle of the season. And that was 2021. That was Rich Passaccio and the Raiders. And that was the only reason because Gruden resigned. It wasn't because he was fired.

He had to resign because of the emails and things like that. So you're almost saying the Jets by the numbers tell me that they're not going to make the playoffs. So that also bodes bad for Mike McCarthy. If Jerry Jones decides to make a move at the head coaching spot, almost solidifies that. Yeah.

Or validates that they may not make the playoffs to Cowboys. Sorry to bring it back to you, TJ. Yeah. All right. I don't want to bring it up.

What can I say? All good. Okay. That's a bottom line.

It's just great. Look, admission is the first step. You know what I mean? Well, when have I not admitted that though? Yeah, but you never said we stink. Well, I've used different words.

You know, vocabulary is extensive, but it comes back to the same place. This takes a nice chunk out of the pie. But every year something happens. And again, we're still in the early parts of the NFL season, right? We're only, what is it now? Six weeks in. Six weeks in. Today's the last game of week six. Before the season, we said, I don't know how this division is going to be.

I don't know. There was so much kind of unknown. You've got a rookie quarterback. You've got a quarterback on its fourth team, right? You got a quarterback that was one of the richest quarterbacks in terms of contract for a short period of time, but he's replacing a legend in his now his second year as the starting quarterback.

It's just, we just didn't know. And then you got a quarterback, I feel like doesn't get enough credit, but yet we look now and hello, NFC North. Welcome to the party again. The black and blue division, baby. Who's the best team in the NFC North. Now, how am I going off the record? I'm talking about right now.

Who passes the eye test? Let's talk NFC North, the best division in football coming up next year on the Rich Eisner Show. Kirk Morrison filling in for Rich. For business owners like you, the American express business platinum card works just as hard as you do to help you pursue your passions with its world-class business and travel benefits. You can get more for your business wherever it takes you. The Amex business platinum card offers a flexible spending limit that adapts with your business, enabling you to flex and adapt as your business evolves. And you'll earn five times membership rewards points on flights and prepaid hotels booked on amextravel.com so that going that extra mile for your business is even more rewarding. See how the Amex business platinum card gives business owners like you the tools and rewards to do more of what you love. Not all purchases will be approved. Terms apply.

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You were 29 when this first started now you're in your mid-40s getting all rocked up like you did yeah in this do we do we need to test you Matt did you take no no I should have that might have made it easier there's not in my experience there's not you know if you're not going to take anything which I'm not the um there's no it's the same workout that it was when I was 29 it's just you know it's just a very strict diet two a days in the gym and it's you know there's no it's just all work like there's no right there's no there's no shortcut and then just so you just cut out what sugars meat by the end it's like fascinated by the end it's just protein and vegetables and no carbs at all and just you know two workouts a day and I mean it was it was a lot of work for how many weeks months did you have to do that well I was in shape I got in shape for the Martian and then and then for this uh movie I did in China and then and then about 10 weeks out I kind of ramped up even more and so it was um to try to get under you know down below eight then like seven percent body fat it was more about body fat than like weight so when you were done shooting what was the first meal that you had when you're done shooting oh man I mean you know for me it's Italian food by you know pasta and you know bread pasta red wine chicken parm yeah oh my god yeah are you kidding me yeah that's the thing that that's what kills me my kids love to eat that like sometimes when we order out we'll get this you know this chicken palm this oh yeah parm and this pink pasta that they like and they're just like you know plating it for them it's just like you know I start shaking I'm just wondering if the Boston you just came out I just I think I just started I didn't say chicken palm I didn't say I said chicken but I but I it was a it was I forgot the R it wasn't that hey I'm the I'm the same way you know and when I go back to the old school days I love chicken palm welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show Radio Network I'm sitting at the Rich Eisen show desk furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry Grainger has the right product for you so call clickgrainger.com or just stop by 844-204-rich 844-204-rich is the phone number I started by saying that before the season you never know which is going to be the best division in football for me I would have told you it was going to be the team or the division in the north and it would have been the AFC north and I felt like I would have been correct with Baltimore with Pittsburgh Cleveland obviously Cincinnati but six weeks in it is the actual opposite division of the north the NFC north that has been one in which every team right now currently has a winning record they've got one undefeated team but they've also got the team that are playing the best football because of the quarterbacks and I got to thinking a little bit if you had to rank these quarterbacks in that division how do you rank these quarterbacks are we putting Jordan Love at the top or has Jared Goff's resume show that he's taken a team to a Super Bowl has started a Super Bowl should he be at the top but you got the young emerging Caleb Williams we saw on Sunday Rich Eisen had so many superlatives he and Kurt Warner going off about Caleb oh what a throw from Caleb I mean that's just what it is Caleb Williams right now and then Sam Darnold are we still thinking about Sam Darnold of the New York Jets are we thinking of Sam Darnold who's actually a brand new quarterback that has good coaching for the first time in a very long time well last year he was the backup in San Fran but that was Brock Purdy's show under Kevin O'Connell the Minnesota Vikings are undefeated right now 5-0 so how do I rank these teams who is the best team in the division after a great win yesterday the Detroit Lions looked like they could be there but then I looked at the Green Bay Packers and after missing some time early after week one Jordan Love seems to be back to what we envisioned he would be and he would be and why he got the big contract watching him throw the ball yesterday in the rain he showed why he is yeah look man Arizona is a tough team they they're not I know their record may not be what people think it is but I don't view them as the same old Arizona Cardinals they're a good team especially defensively with Buddha Baker and those guys been able to do Mack Wilson at the line back and spot all of that but Jordan Love was carving him up and to see Romeo Dobbs who was suspended last the previous week yep they found a way to get him the ball and he was a factor Christian Watson there was something that told me to start Christian Watson in the all gas no breaks fantasy football started him yesterday I did start him yes wow look at you it was well everybody else was on uh okay yeah out of necessity I had to start Christian Watson and the only reason why it was because yeah don't admit yeah don't know I do admit because I think about it I have a big giant zero or not a zero but an O next to Devante Adams name by the way so like I can't start Devante Adams I want to start Devante Adams but that will give me zero points so Christian Watson hey here you are but I just love the division because I don't know who's the best team I don't know who's gonna win but I'll tell you this this is going to come down to the wire all the way down I think you said it TJ who would have thought that a Vikings Lions game in the early part of the season would be sort of a potential game of the year with two teams fighting for the spot to be who's going to be the talk it's funny that at four and two you're still two games behind or is it a game and a half behind because obviously Minnesota hasn't played six games yet but you're a game and a half almost two games behind you could be three games behind if you don't win against the Minnesota Vikings it's funny how this is playing out if you had to rank them though Brockman right now oh man that's so hard who is the top quarterback in the NFC North for me I'll tell you I'm going with Jared Goff and then after that I honestly believe it is Jordan Love now three and four toss-up toss-up for me and I'm not going with the recency bias I'm not going with the recency bias of Caleb Williams number one overall pick already jumping over Sam Darnold he looks great Sam Darnold is a former number three overall pick yep and he's starting to play like that because he's in the right place in Carolina let's be real he was not that he was seeing ghosts in the new in within his New York Jets uniform last year he had the red shirt with the 49ers and now he's finally playing so he's been in a transfer portal three different times and he finally found the right program with the Minnesota Vikings I've got him at three and I think Caleb Williams is still at four I still need to see more I'm not I can't forget what it looked like for Caleb Williams the first two or three games of the season now the last two weeks has started to look a little more like the quarterback we expected to see coming out of USC and I think when you start to see Caleb Williams his demeanor that's the guys are buying in I think you can see a different Caleb Williams and you can hear a different Caleb Williams here he is after the win on Sunday yeah I think I think throughout this whole process of these you know past couple games we've had I think I've been seeing it well and that starts you know throughout the whole week watching film getting there in practice talking to the coaches players and things like that so I think seeing it well I think the comfort level of just you know like I've like I've talked about before getting back to playing football and you know where where I need to be eyes need to be if I need a hold of safety if I you know need to just hang on a route so just getting back getting back comfortable of just having that feel for the game obviously you study you watch and do all these other things but you know once once the ball snap you gotta you gotta have that that post snap read and know what you have to do and be confident about it so I think that's what I can contribute it to. And he spread the football around and I'm starting to see a much better quarterback shout out to Rich Eisen for one of the better lines of the game there is no I in commit but there is an M and an E by the way so there is a me not an I but a me for Cole commit who had a five catches 70 yards one of the great lines of the game from Rich. Oh Kirk you're talking about quarterbacks in the north okay I'm gonna look at metrics right because we're living an analytic world don't go and I don't want to analyze things. Are you going the the PFF grade? No no I'm not I'm just I had a coach by the way I had a college coach tell me so he doesn't care about the PF Chang grade that's what he calls it PF Chang I don't care about your PF Chang grade but we'll get passer rating right no one knows what the formula is but passer rating is okay Jared Goff is the best passer rating quarterback in the north Sam Darnold right behind him followed by Love and Caleb is fourth right what about yards per game think about yards per game well Jordan Love has the most yards per game of any quarterback in the north second overall in the league Goff then Sam Darnold then Caleb Williams right and what if I go what about completion percentage that's a really good measurement of how good a quarterback is well Jared Goff is is first at 71 percent and then you know then you go down and it's oh Sam Darnold's way down so it's I'm just looking at things but then you eye test that also matters Sam Darnold's hit a lot of big plays that's their offense that's kind of their offense throw it deep maybe hit some of these guys hit Jordan Addison hit Justin Jefferson obviously Hawk is coming back soon for the Vikings I think I'm with you I think it's Jared Goff right now yeah I think he's probably the best quarterback he's probably playing the best Jordan Love is coming on but Sam Darnold obviously has been so consistent throughout the first five weeks I think I'm going to give a little bit of slight edge to Sam Darnold I'm going to have him second and I'm going to have Love I'm going to have Love third and I'm going to have Caleb fourth Caleb has only done it really the last couple of weeks right okay need to see it more need to see more consistency I want to see better play calling I want Shane Waldron to up his game too a lot of complaints from Bears fans about Shane Waldron Jackson Smith the jigba had the line of the year when he was asked about him because obviously he came from Seattle he stopped the interview and went are we live that told me a lot that I needed to know also but like I test it's early can Caleb get out of the basement yes I think so will Sam Darnold kind of regress to the mean a little bit yes I think so I also think the Packers can go to Packers can go to the Super Bowl so I think Jordan Love is going to climb up there golf can he keep it going look they put all their games in domes practically right I when the weather gets a little tougher I like what I saw to Jordan Love a little bit better what I'm trying to say is you can't really go wrong with any four of these guys they're all playing really high level football right now and I think that's really cool and it's really fun yeah I agree I love that I love what you said there because they're all playing really good football and as the season goes along we'll see these head-to-head matchups and how much it will be on the quarterback how much will it be on the coach I still feel like with Shane Waldron you've got to be conservative in your play calls because you don't want to give the full playbook to your rookie right away also DeAndre Swift has been really awesome the last couple of weeks great got off to such a slow start TJ we were wondering wow is this the biggest bust of the free agent market in the last season because remember he was the first running back to sign correct with Chicago now we're starting to see it a lot more involved in the past game he's running the rock better and that's why the Bears are foreign too I don't think people realize how good of a player Keenan Allen is like Keenan Allen has now made I think Kayla Williams whole like when he was injured in the first part of the season Keenan Allen is always open always he's always open like that dude doesn't get enough credit for his releases at the line of scrimmage his separation that he gets at the line of scrimmage incredible route runner and then he got two touchdowns look DJ Moore is going to be your big play guy Rome Modunze young player still emerging he's still got an outstanding tight end and Cole Comette we just talked about but the uptick in the offense since Keenan Allen has come back from the hamstring injury it's there's a reason why Caleb Williams is playing better there's a reason why their offense is playing better because if you know you've got a guy on third and six third and seven you got a guy who knows how to go get it like some teams don't have that like I cover the Rams right for their radio network they don't have Puka Nakua they don't have Cooper Cup when it's third and seven you've got to have a guy that you can go to it we were talking about the Ravens the Ravens have Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry all right when you think about the Cowboys you think CeeDee Lamb Dak Prescott you still have a gotta have it God some teams don't have that gotta have it God I know where Jared Goff is going on third and six you better find Amin Ross St. Brown yep yeah but now it could be Jamo it could you know it could be Jamara out the back field that's why these lines are so dangerous right right it could be that it's not just Sun God anymore that's that's what makes I think Green Bay a little dangerous too because you don't know who's gonna because you don't know who hit the ball I watched they came here in Los Angeles to play against the Rams and watching it up close and personal and you're like who's gonna get the ball Dobbs wasn't even available and yet here goes Romeo Dobbs making plays here comes Christian Watson now who's now available right me Jaden Reed is like one of the best receivers in the league that we don't even talk about enough dude just catches a couple touchdowns a week like up Jaden Reed has another touchdown Jaden Tucker Kraft has touched like these dudes like Tabian Wicks has three touchdowns this year I mean like I said you don't know you don't know which one of these cats you gotta you gotta try to shut down and Josh Jacobs too we got a running back by the way Green Bay man I know I just love the way this division is playing out I really do and we're going to continue to watch and see I did have a question for you guys before we get into a break because Monday Night Football is coming up and we'll talk to Brian Costello at the top of the hour the New York Jets beat Ryder for the New York Post about tonight's Monday Night Football game Jets bills no Robert Solano Jeff Olbrich takes over as the head coach because I watched Sunday Night Football last night and I'm not going to just jump on the Giants as I did in the beginning of the season like the first couple weeks Giants looked awful there's some things that they're working out offensively no Malik neighbors does hurt them and you saw it last night because that was their gotta have it guy and when they needed a gotta have it moment last night on those critical fourth downs that they couldn't convert that's where that's where neighbors is like even when I'm covered I'm open they needed that you saw it glaring last night but if I told you that at the end of week six the conclusion of week six week six the Jets and the Giants both teams in New York will be sitting at two and four would you have believed me would you have believed me that the Giants maybe because we felt like they're a team that you know could be on that but the New York Jets could be sitting at two and four and you would say also even say which team is better moving forward which team can you still see getting better I feel like could the Giants still can find ways to get better the Jets I see a lot of bickering a lot of things going on in house guys Nathaniel Hackett gets demoted Todd Dunne I mean there's a lot that can come out of tonight to where both teams could be sitting at two and four the New York teams I want to discuss that coming up next rich eyes in here filling me kirk borson here filling in for rich eyes on the rich eyes of the show this season get premium tech that inspires joy from dell technologies bring projects to life with 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position kevin stefanski's had some little update on that as well so a lot more to get to and at the end monday night football i said it and i'll narrow it down to this because i want to get to a quarterback who's also a number one overall pick of a couple seasons ago who's playing up and down but the team isn't playing well get to that in just a second but just quickly jets or giants jets play tonight they could be two and four or they could be three and three after tonight who has the better record at the end of the year jets or giants hey you know what for you guys that have to ponder it this long it's like it's a real question it's a hard difficult question because you're saying wow like the jets because look if you don't win tonight without robert salah as your head coach everything is all pointing towards okay we've we've fixed it we've got a new mind a new attitude we got a new culture new identity we've got a new play caller and if it don't work out tonight i can easily see the jets going on an even longer skid and aaron rogers having to go through all i don't think he envisioned this remember he was like oh i got a couple seasons left in me i feel great you lose on monday night football there will be some memes available tonight for both teams because we're because we're going to have aaron rogers they're going to have a steel camera on him the entire game we know watching his every movement because this is a huge game for him remember this is the opener last year he only lasted a handful of plays i'm just looking at the jet schedule right they they still have the bills two more times included tonight they still have the dolphins two more times uh that's after december so i gotta i assumed two was going to be back um at pittsburgh next week home for houston uh they still have to play uh seattle and the rams those are tough games yeah i don't know how many more wins are there uh outside of these division games i assume they beat the patriots i assume they win at least one if not two of those dolphins games patriots may get one on them maybe they beat jacksonville if things are going super south like they are now for jacksonville indy is kind of a toss-up is joe flaco still playing in a month like i have no idea uh it's not it doesn't look good uh i i don't know what to expect out of them tonight right i assume we see a lot of breeze hall tonight because he hasn't done much to start the year for some braylon allen give me some braylon alan just run the football at least try to run the football where they have 20 straight pass plays or something the other day it's not that i don't know man i i'm gonna say giants just also because i'm a hater what you got tj i think basically for me it's gonna come down to the fact that i believe even now the jets have the better quarterback out of the two of them so um and i think they overall have the better receiving court which means i think they have the better offense so but they was just trying to trade for davante adams last week right i mean that's fine that was just rumored or people people are putting davante there that's fine but you still got garrett wilson you still got alan lazar correct playing well so i'm gonna have to say who do i think is going to finish with the better record i gotta lean on that quarterback and say i feel like the jets will probably finish with the better record i to me i feel like daniel jones is playing for his nfl career whereas aaron rogers as the season goes along how much is he into it uh they've got to be in contention probably playing for his legacy too like you know obviously winning another super bowl might be out of you know out of the range of something that may be attainable but you know so if the jets don't finish over 500 where what is his where does his legacy go from here i mean because the legacy has already been made in green bay but it's like these later years right i don't i don't want to compare it to jordan with the wizards you know what i'm saying but like when you've had a bulk of your career one spot in one super bowl i mean you won a super bowl multiple nvps all of that and it's like i want to see what it looks like somewhere else because to me the poster boy for this one for me is tom brady tom brady went from what he did in new england went to tampa and regardless of him just winning one super bowl they still went to the playoffs every year right you know what i mean they still went out and took care of business to where if the jets don't make the playoffs that's two years with aaron rogers as the quarterback and i know he wasn't there for the first one he's on that roster yeah true so the rest of his career is going to be like it's just going to be the green bay years because the new york jets years have presented us with what nothing like nothing all it has been is storylines there has been nothing about aaron rogers jets tenure right now that gets you excited about what he's brought to the franchise tonight will you consider this whole jets experiment a complete failure i will wait to the end of the season to do that i don't want to put it there tonight because you're starting to think about it but you think it's in my head now yeah it's definitely i'm thinking about it i'm thinking about man this is this is bad this is bad early on you're like okay there's a possibility that aaron rogers can bring this franchise back because everybody was talking playoffs and playoffs and the expectations put on this team this team just need to get over 500 you know what i mean like just get over 500 for me so i'm not calling it a must win but man they lose tonight two and four and you already know the statistics people will come out oh the team starting the nfl two and four how did this many made the playoffs there's only seven spots only seven spots seven spots more important for the jets though than the bills to win the night more important for the jets i think so um the buffalo bills i feel like they'll figure it out it won't be as you know i them just taking over the afc it's still kansas city's thing man kansas city is still the chiefs are still the chiefs i don't care what you talk about so you take away one spot so basically you're playing for six spots left yeah really i'm not even that because the other division winner so that's true this you know what i mean they're really only playing for four spots right now three are already taken away so either you're playing for your division or you're getting a wildcard that's it because the other spots is already taken out so we get into more of that i didn't get into it yet but i want to get into it in the next hour some things have to happen does duck peterson make it back to america as the head coach of the jacksonville jackwires that's what they have not if that drink may shows up in london if you lose to drake me oh baby drake de rocke mayo that's gonna be a big concern for me because everyone's always talking about looking for a spark looking for something and i never i hate wishing it will on coaches like i don't do that but he was like oh you should fire up how well is the team playing is it all on the team is it all on the player like what's going on but man i tell you when you go over to london and you playing a game and if it don't go right with the owner there all the you've been there for two weeks so you know shot con got his homies with him they hanging out and this is the product that you got yeah somebody has to walk the plank they're bad will doug peterson survive london we'll know in the coming weeks more rich isin show coming up as we uh get to the uh part of the season where it's like buy or sell right because i'm looking at trevor etn tomball i wake up like it's trevor etn on the trade block like whoa what happened i mean i know travis has been like i don't think of his brother but dude what is going on there yeah i'm thinking of his brother over at georgia i think about them trevor etn outstanding running back and running back by the way but travis etn um vibes are bad jacksonville man vibes are real bad when your best player also messes up there's a jacksonville jaguars upcoming schedule back he had 10 catches yesterday but gabe davis finally got on the board green bay philly minnesota detroit they got the where is a win there where's a win ah you would expect them to beat new england you know but it didn't happen london well pretty good yesterday and all you're saying is that look we just got to find a win it doesn't care how ugly it is i don't want people saying oh he barely beat this team in the nfl is did you win or not yep that's how i always said did you win or did you not nobody cares if you blew a team out like it was a great win for detroit yesterday it was just a win now next week if they play against the vikings and they win by one is that not a good win no it's just a win that's all that matters by five and a half over new england should they 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