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We say hello. And as I mentioned, 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Hope over the next three hours we can help you. Forget whatever's going on that causes you stress or whatever's going on maybe in the real world and be here with us in this world. Opening up week number two of the NFL season tonight with a biggie on prime video.
Al Michaels was in studio to start our first full week here on Disney Plus and the ESPN app and ESPN Radio on Monday. He's calling tonight's game on Prime Video, and it's Commanders and Packers. We'll be breaking that down later on. And we've got three guests joining us. Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk is first up.
There's lots, as you know, happening in our NFL world in advance of week two. He'll join us in the middle of hour number two. Our friend from ESPN, she was sitting with me on that Sports Center set when I made my return 22 years apart. Mina Kimes will be joining us in hour number two and then hour three. Kyle McLachlan, one of my favorites.
I might go down to Twin Peaks Wormhole with him. Why not? I might have him hold a rich Eisen show mug and say that's a damn fine cup of coffee, which would be a dream come true for. That high schooler that was watching Twin Peaks in Staten Island with my friends. And of course, we'll be.
We'll be talking with him about his new show, FX's The Lowdown, which premieres Tuesday, September 23rd. And then that's on FX, and then it re-airs on Hulu, which I think you can package together with the Rich Isaac Show in some way, shape, or form in this newfangled streaming world. Good to see you over there, Christopher. How are you, Chris? Good to be seeing you.
What's up, man? I'm doing well. Mike Deltufos tapping out today. Jay Felly's here. I come off late, but you see those Raiders?
Oh, God, you are late. Congratulations on your range. I want to play this. 17-0, man. That's our new drop.
You got another new drop that we have here? I do. Maca.
Okay, next. We get to see him tonight. I do. Anytime we talk about the new Green Bay Packer, we've got a new drop. Maca.
There you go, very good. Yeah. Hello, TJ Jefferson. Good to see you. Is the candle not lit?
Yeah, I think the wick is dead in this candle, so it's time for a new one. I gotta say, Dantavian Wicks is John Wicks? John Wick, yeah, yeah. With Greece and Greece back? Is that your man?
My man. Candle. He's gone tonight.
Okay. We start today's show on April 29th, 2021. Why are we doing that, Rich? It's a rhetorical question. I'll ask you to answer.
I'll give you the answer. I'll be quiet. Thank you. April 29th, 2021, I was sitting on an NFL network draft set in Cleveland, Ohio for the first in-person draft in two years. We all remember what happened in 2020.
And um Sitting on that Cleveland set and a few hours before the draft, Um the big question was What are the 49ers doing trading up for that third overall draft choice? when we all know it was going to be Trevor Lawrence first. going to the Jaguars and Zach Wilson second to the Jets. What do they trade up? All the way to 3-4.
few days before. And then Oh, poor pay. Uh word came at uh Aaron Rogers Wanted out of Green Bay. Remember that one? Because the year before, in that COVID draft, Aaron's sitting home, apparently, two fingers into a stiff drink and uh.
Found out Jordan Love was being acquired. The draft rights. Moving up, the Packers did to go get him. Apparently wasn't terribly pleased about that.
Now he wanted out. And word was he was trying to force his way out to go to San Francisco Forty Niners. Why not? Yeah. Alright, that's the team of his youth.
Growing up in Chico, California. Chico. I was It's entirely possible. Aaron Rodgers was a young man sitting there in Chico, California, watching me do my sports on KRCR television in Reading, California in 1994 to 96, before ESPN hired me for a 1.0.
Now I'm in the 2.0 runway. Anyway, that was all going on. And, you know, Rogers with Kyle Shanahan, like, that's the good stuff. Rogers, as we all know, It's an MVP of the NFL. He stayed.
In Green Bay anyway, nothing happened with the 49ers. And Rogers And he went on to win another MVP award later on that year. Coming up with a Four-touchdown game late in the season against the Bears that served to be his last such game until this past Sunday. Why am I starting with all this? Because.
Everybody also thought. The Niners had traded up. In that draft. To take Matt Jones. Mac Tan.
Remember that? That was a big thing. Big, big. When they traded up. When they traded up initially, the first thought was it was for Mac.
Jones, the kid out of Alabama. Had a huge year in that bow. And this is the type of guy that Shanahan wants. Like, you know, we all know Shanahan and everybody in his system covets Kirk Cousins. Like Daniel Jeremiah, my buddy from NFL Network, always says: if you are in that Shanahan system, McVay system.
You must pay fealty to Kirk Cousins. Because Shanahan had Kirk. In DC And the word was that Shanahans weren't terribly into RG3. That was a thumb on the scale by Dan Snyder. And they drafted Kirk Cousins later on in that draft.
And Mac Jones was going to be Kirk Cousins 2.0, and they went with Trey Lance. Yada yada yada. Trey Lance goes there. Mac Jones goes to New England. He comes out of the draft green room like Vince McMahon.
Remember that? Mac Jones is walking like Vince McMahon. He goes to New England. Trey Lance hardly plays a lick in San Francisco. Mac Jones has an incredible rookie season to the point where he's grittying in the Pro Bowl.
And then The roof case in for him there in New England. And Trey Lance. Gets a starting shot. But he gets hurt. Then Jimmy Garoppolo's there, and Jimmy Garoppolo gets hurt, and all of a sudden, the last pick of the draft and Brock Purdy gets his shot.
And he makes the most of it. And purdy Eventually takes the team. to the Super Bowl and he does very well in that Super Bowl. And this past offseason, he gets Piz Aid. And his backup.
Turns out to be Mac Jones. winds up on the Niners anyway. And it's a smart move by him to join the Niners, right? If you're going to be a backup, you want to be a backup there. Look at Sam Darnold.
Who had a nice run there and everybody thinks In the NFL, if you're going to be a backup, go to the San Francisco 49ers. Quarterback room. You're going to learn. You're going to be coached up. You're going to have us.
Skill set. that you can now take portably anywhere else. Sam Darnold, the perfect example. Let's go there. Let's get a little bit of time in the Shanahan system.
We'll go to Kevin O'Connell. We'll win 14 games. Then we'll go to Seattle and get paid there. Brock Purdy in his first game is a Pizade quarterback. goes to Seattle.
and does the purdy thing, which is win in Seattle. 4-0. Mal Vair, six and one in his career against the Seattle Seahawks. And who knew when Purdy's running for his life with 90 ticks left in the game, and he finds. Jake Tongas in the end zone.
The guy backing up George Kittle. Who knew? He was battling a shoulder and a toe injury at the same time because. Come on. All of a sudden, he's showing up on the injury report, and then all the information men and women in the NFL this week are like, hey.
This is serious. He might not play this Sunday. And then all of a sudden, today, Comes out the news. It's two to five weeks. And look who's now in the spotlight.
In the starters role, in the purdy role. from a couple years ago. For the San Francisco 49ers, 1-0, it is Mac Jones time. Who? Mac Jones time, sir.
My tens. John Lynch today on CNBR locally in the San Francisco area. Giving us the latest. You know, what I can confirm is I talked to obviously our trainer. our doctor, um doctor Anderson, who's the You know, the preeminent foot and ankle specialist in our in the NFL.
And Um you know, what what we're dealing with is like kind of a week-to-week thing. That's our information. Brock's doing well coming back from it, and we'll just treat it as such. He's doing a nice job, doing everything he can to get back out there as soon as possible. And so That's where we're at.
Two to five weeks is what everybody in the NFL media world is saying. My buddy Rapsheet reporting that one today. NFL Network. Did I do this? Is this my fault for finally coming around and pledging my support and saying how great the Niners and Brock Purdy were going to be this season?
Well, because guess what? If there's any team where you can't say, this thing's over, it's toast. It's this team, and it's the guy he's replacing is a perfect example of it. A guy who started a ton of games in college. and goes to the system.
And starts balling out and is now paid. 50 and change a year. Because of how well he's performing here. And if Kyle Shannon is a quarterback whisperer before Kevin O'Connell ever was. Time to do it again.
So you can't sit here and go, oh, that's the end of that. When Trey Lance was starting, everyone's just like.
Okay, we'll see what the kid's got. Then he goes and says, Well, that's the end of that. Here comes Jimmy Garoppolo. They basically told him, hand in your playbook. He said goodbye after losing the NFC championship game.
And they took his playbook away. He was 19th string going in the summer. And then they decided at the end of the summer, you know what? We need you because we can't just go with this purdy kid if we have, if we go down to that. And then they went down to that and the kid bawled out.
and he became Brock freaking Purdy.
So, what are we going to sit here and say this is over now? Absolutely not. But Mac Jones can't play football? like he did back in his first year. He was offensive rookie of the year, runner-up.
And as we know, he made the Pro Bowl. He was on the top 100 list. Josh McDaniels was his offensive coordinator. The next year, the Raiders hire him away. And suddenly It's Patricia, it's the law firm of Belichick, Patricia, and Judge that's in his ear.
Yeah. And that didn't work out. And it went south. And then he had the unfortunate circumstance of Yours truly, and Kurt Warner calling one of his international games You got to have your head in a swivel when we do that. Ask Robert Sala.
Ask Daniel Jones. Ask Mac Jones. Anyone named Jones, starting a quarterback over there in Germany, and we're calling your game. Uh have your head in a swivel. Mac Jones threw those awful interceptions in Frankfurt, and see you later.
Belichick was done with him and he with Belichick. And now he's in this spot where everybody thinks you're in the perfect spot. Because it's Kyle Shannon and there is A roadmap. To look at and show how it works. And the 49ers are in New Orleans.
It's Matt Jones v. Spencer Rattler. If there's any winnable game. It should be that one. Should be.
Notice I said should. You're home for Arizona, home for Jacksonville, and then you're at the Rams. If it's two weeks, then on a Thursday. I mean, I don't know. Then you're at Tampa.
So if it's five weeks, those are your five weeks. What if Mac Jones goes 4 and 1, then what? Then it's Brock Purdy's job to finish the season with a nice spore and one stretch for the DNA because that's what backup quarterbacks are supposed to do. You're supposed to go in. You're supposed to win the games that you're supposed to win, and you're not supposed to lose.
Don't do anything stupid and hand it back to the guy that you paid $50 plus million dollars to. Ask Cooper Rush. Ask Cooper Rush. Yes, but Dak Prescott. But here's the thing: Cooper Rush wasn't the guy that the Cowboys maybe wanted in the draft, but the front office pushed the button the other way.
Right, but Dak Prescott's the guy that was making all those millions, just like Brock Purdy. Yeah, but Brock Pur Brock Purdy wasn't the guy. You know, he was in the seventh round. They di they wanted. Kyle Shannon wanted Mac Jones.
So if Mac Jones he finally gets, and if Mac Jones is lighting it up and running the system the way that he knew he could four years ago, Then what? Then you tell Mac Jones, great job. That's what we have you here for. I don't know about that. And on local radio in San Francisco.
Understood, but I think the conversation in San Francisco and Santa Clara is like: this is why we got you. We believed in you back then. We believe in you now. We need you for two to five weeks.
Well, our big toe comes back from a big toe injury. The big toe on a guy that's never played a full season. I'm hear I hear you. That's why you have Mac Jones. That's why you have a backup quarterback.
You have a backup quarterback that can win you games in a two to five week stretch to keep things afloat for the guy you're paying 50 some odd million to and the whole locker room and the whole front office clearly believes in. This time Is the business we've chosen. That's it. I think that's the business we've chosen. There's going to be big problems if Mac Jones goes four and one.
Okay. Listen, listen to Hyman Roth. And listen to Rich Isaac. What do we have in common? I think you know.
You're both in your 50s?
Well, I'm just going to take a nap. And when I wake up, if the money's there, I understand. We have a deal. How old was Hyman Roth and Confident? I mean, he always lies about his age, he's always honest about his age.
I can't make enough Godfather 2 references. I don't care how old that movie is. It's a freaking classic. I'm just saying it kind of contradicts what we were saying. Which is what?
Well, yesterday, like I said yesterday, when I brought up a person's name, and you're like, that was 17 years ago. Nobody was. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, talk about that. You're talking about contradiction. This guy was like, Purdy's not this, Purdy's not that, Purdy's not this, Purdy's not that.
Then on Overreaction Monday, and the Rich Eisen show for the last. Two months, you've been high on the Niners. Don't sleep on him. Purdy goes out and does what he did without half of his unit. I have Penny and half my fantasy.
And he's Rack Kittle in the other and trying to bench him for Mac Jones. We're not trying to bench him. I'm telling you what the conversation is going to be when Mac Jones has 300 yards and four touchdowns in New Orleans and then goes and beats the Bucs and the Rams and the Cardinals. If the Niners. have a four-in-one situation.
With Mac Jones going. They're going to be in first place with Mac Jones, and then you're just going to bench him. And yes, you will. Yes, you will. Except that was the guy that the coach wanted the whole time.
Oh, I got it. And then the coach went ahead and said, let's take a flyer on this kid last pick in the draft and look at him now. And he's also paid like this. That was that part. 100%.
A great, by the way, you're not paying him to sit him. A champagne problem. The Niners would sign for right now. Yeah, there's a guy getting paid. In Atlanta, who's just sitting there?
The original. The original. Yeah, there's always, you know. It's just money. It's just money.
Do you care about money? They're winning more. They might do that. The Cowboys might. If somebody, I don't even know.
Who's the third stringer there? Who's the true Brock Purdy in this situation?
Well, that's. By the way, Javier Ruff was 67.
Well, I mean, some guy named Curtis Rourke. Oh, by the way, that's our friend from Canada, the smiley guy. Yeah, the AI guy. His headshot looked like an AI quarterback. I completely like that.
It does. His headshot still smiley. The only guy who plays in Canada will play quarterback. And it would be great in the Shanahan system. You tell that to AI, and it comes up with the photograph.
He's got AI Sam Howell vibes with this headshot. By the way, I don't know if we're scrambling for that photograph deep. We had that like two years ago. It's buried. It's gone.
Just pull up any AI picture. It won't suffice. Dude, you're out of your mind. Listen, let's just play a game. Let's see what Mac Jones does in Arizona before we start flash forwarding.
He looked decently at the end of last season with Jacksonville. Yeah. Okay. You got Brian Thomas into the top 10 in fantasy weeks this year.
So here we go. Let's see what the Niners do. It's Mac Jones time, and that's what you have Shanahan there for, and that's what you have Mac Jones there for. Let's go. And if there's any team you can't look at and say, oh my God, this season's over because they're going to the backup.
But wildly, of all the teams that are forced due to injury to start a backup quarterback for the first time. If you had to choose an AFC team, it would be the Jets. You had to choose an NFC team, it would be the 49ers because it seems to happen to them quite frequently. And it always seems to work out, doesn't it? We'll see this time around.
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Good to see you. Rich, I'm doing great. Good to see you. How are you today? We are great.
I mean, week two, lots to talk about right here. What's at the top of your list? What's at the top of your list? Mental news stack, Mike Florian.
Well, I was listening before I came on. How could you forget? That Ricardo Montobon was also Khan. No, he's Khan, too. The Wrath of Khan.
Yeah, spitting his last break. He was on the Herschel Walker push-up program to get the. Remember, he had the pecs. And really, he did like 500 push-ups a day to get those pecs for that movie. You think so?
I thought they strapped it onto him. You don't think that? No, it looks like it. I remember. I remember reading in the newspaper back in those days, kids, there were newspapers that Riccardo Montalban, as he was doing press for Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan, he did a whole lot of push-ups.
Although, maybe. Maybe he really didn't. He was just claiming to, and they did they did some sort of you know contraption sort of a Performance. If there's one thing I know, Ricardo Maltebon never needed a performance enhancer. He just woke up that way, no matter what his end.
Let's just, I guess, let's just jump into the week two. As I mentioned, what is at the top of your mind here going into week two? What are you. Focused in on right here.
Well, obviously, we got a Super Bowl rematch right out of the gates, and the Chiefs. Didn't look like themselves on Friday night in Brazil against the Chargers. They come home with the Eagles, who didn't have it as easily as we thought they would with the Cowboys, but they didn't have Jalen Carter. I suspect Jalen Carter is going to be ready to go. Even though it was his own damn fault that he was ejected from the game before there was even a snap, this whole non-suspension suspension allows him to play for free on Sunday.
And I suspect that he will be ready to go. A.J. Brown, who had one target, one catch for eight yards with fewer than two minutes to play on Thursday night, he'll be ready to go. And look at what the Eagles did. the Chiefs back in the Super Bowl.
I Think that's going to be very hard to duplicate. But the Eagles Are clearly one of the best teams in the NFL, and this is just a tough draw for the Chiefs for their home opener.
Well, how about this? I'll offer a little bit of pushback: that the team that didn't look like what they looked like last year. In week one, if you're looking at Chiefs and Eagles, I'll go with the Eagles, didn't look like it. Because but they won. because of what happened right before the game with Jalen Carter.
And it was a little bit more difficult than we thought. Then the Chiefs did look like last year, except they lost. Right. Like they they they were struggling. to get the ball down the field, take the top of the defense off, and part of that was.
you know, because they lost Xavier Worthy three snaps into the game, maybe. And the idea is that they do want to go deep. They do have a fast. Wide receiver room. One of them's just suspended.
The other one is who knows with Xavier Worthy's. status is going to be long term here. You know. Is it possible that the Chiefs are eyeing a reunion with Tyreek Hill? Mike Florio, do you believe?
I have been saying, Rich, for several weeks now that I think Tyree Kill could be this year's Devontae Adams, where when it became obvious last year it wasn't in the cards for the Raiders, next thing you know, he goes to the Jets for the Aaron Rodgers reunion. The Raiders weren't going to keep him for twenty twenty five. Let's get value for him. And they got a third round pick. I don't think Tyreek Hill will be a dolphin next year based on his contract and just the overall situation.
So why not trade him if things continue to go off the rails? And based on week one, It's clearly off the rails for the Miami Dolphins.
Now, I was told in the aftermath of that week one debacle That both the Steelers and the Chiefs are eyeing Tyreek Hill, and the Steelers would be crazy. To imagine. With Tyree Kill and DK Metcalf, with Aaron Rodgers, throwing them passes. But it got complicated on Monday because TMZ reported on the existence of court filings in Tyree Kill's pending divorce case, in which his estranged wife accuses him of eight incidents of domestic violence, including at least one while she was pregnant, and the league has launched a personal conduct policy investigation. I think that any team that would be interested in trading for Tyreek Hill wants to be sure they're not trading for a guy who's going to be suspended before the end of the season.
So that is a massive complication that wasn't there when the chatter began of maybe the Chiefs or the Steelers trying to get Tyree Kill if this Dolphins' week one trend continues.
So, what. What are you hearing out of South Florida? right now, Mike, if anything, based on that 33 to 8 beat down, That left Mike McDaniel looking for any asked about a silver lining, said, Well, the silver lining is that we were embarrassed. that that should maybe shake a cobweb or two around here. Yeah, and then it can't get worse.
Well, it can get worse. Joe Philbin was fired by the Dolphins four weeks into the twenty fifteen season with a record of one and three.
So it can get worse. If the losses continue, I suspect that Stephen Ross, the owner of the team, will consider making some sort of an in-season change. And I love Mike McDaniel. He's got such a refreshing and different way, the authenticity, but boy. His Demeanor and his words, they they just They just land differently when the team isn't good.
And The very chill Mannerism. And just that way of speaking. It doesn't mesh with a guy whose team was just Obliterated on Sunday by the Colts.
So Something's off there, and a lot of the problems that usually manifest themselves for the Dolphins later in the year when they have to play outdoors in the cold. Those popped up week one. Week one, they'd been undefeated under Mike McDaniel, and they didn't just lose. They were embarrassed. How quickly can they turn it around against a team from New England?
That the Dolphins have beaten seven of eight times at home, and the Dolphins are eight and two against the Patriots this decade. This is one that the doctor ordered for the Dolphins, and if they can't win this one, It's going to be a long season. For the team, and it could be a short season for the head coach. Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk right here on the Rich Eisen Show. You can check out.
All of Mike's stuff online, and of course, on Peacock and NBC Sunday Night Football, right here on the Rich Eisen Show. What did you make of the Lions week one? Because week one, and certainly in. In many parts in our media, is about salting away. um a salting a narrative or somehow wiping it away.
And with Ben Johnson coming in and what they looked like. on Sunday in Green Bay, the narrative got a little bit more salted. that the coordinator change is going to cost the lions a step or two based on The last years of ascension were What do you think? Mike. One of your new colleagues, Kevin Clark, was with me today on PFT Live, and we were talking about the Lions.
And it occurred to me during the conversation that the Lions are learning what it's like. To be a good team. And there are growing pains that go with being a good team. They lost eight assistant coaches following the departure of Ben Johnson to be the head coach of the Bears and Aaron Glenn to be the head coach of the Jets. They took multiple guys with them.
They have to work this through. And to go from 15-2 in the regular season last year to 0-2 since then, if we add the playoff outcome, to the week one loss. 18-2-0-2. Those fans, I think, are going to be antsy when Ben Johnson brings the Bears into town. And last year, Without Ben Johnson as the Bears' head coach, They On Thanksgiving Day, the Bears were in position to steal that game, but for.
Poor Clock management. That got the head coach Matt Eberfloos fired the next day, the Bears could have won that game. And now Ben Johnson is with the Bears. And I would just be very uneasy about everything if I was a Lions fan because the bar is high now, and it has never been high for the Lions. It's high now, and they're 0-1, and they're facing 0-2 if Ben Johnson comes in there and finish the job that.
Maddie Reflus almost finished last year. Mike Florio here on the Rich Eisen Show. The Bills and the Ravens, that was amazing. Were you transiting back? Or, where were you?
You were sitting there. Walk me through Sunday night for you on NBC. Here's what happens: unbelievable. We watch the first half in the viewing room, and then right after halftime, we tape an FNIA podcast while we have one eye on the screen. And then.
It's go change, get to the car, watching the game on Peacock on the phone the whole time, get back to the hotel.
So I was back at the hotel when all hell broke loose. I just couldn't I couldn't believe it. And the Ravens have They have an institutional, I think, stubbornness to recognize when their formula isn't working. And they think they're going to make it to the finish line as all the pieces are flying off of the car. They think they're going to get there before the other car in the race that they've lapped.
Finds a way to catch them because they don't make. Any adjustments. They just think that what they've been doing is going to continue to work. And you could feel the momentum. It was palpable.
You didn't have to be in the stadium, just watching it on TV. Everything swung toward the Bills. Why would you give the ball back to Josh Allen? There was that key fourth and three.
Now, Lamar Jackson has since said he had cramps. After the game, John Harbaugh said most teams would punt in that situation where it's four and three and a first down ends the game. Most teams don't have Lamar Jackson.
So, I just think that the Ravens need to be ready. To slip into a different mindset when that lead they systematically built throughout a game begins to crumble on them because they weren't able to hold on long enough to get the victory. And that's the kind of thing that can propel the Bills into becoming the team that we've been waiting for them to be under Josh Allen. Mike Florio here on the Rich Eisen Show. We've already been preparing for a new starting quarterback due to injury with the 49ers with Mac Jones, and we're keeping an eye on where the first sit-down due to lack of production might be on the quarterback front.
Would you say big game for Russell Wilson in Dallas, or there's really no itching to get Jackson Dart in there, regardless of the record? Readsome East Rutherford. Big blue tea leaves for me if you don't mind.
Well, I think, Bridge, that if the Giants believed that Jackson Dart would be able to perform at a sufficient level, given the blocking that's available to him, I think he'd already be out there. The mere fact that they. were reportedly Preparing a package of plays for Jackson Dart week one against the Commanders. I mean, this isn't the Cordell Stewart/slash offense, right? If you've got a package of plays for the guy who is your starting quarterback in waiting, why are you not starting him?
And I think they're waiting for the right time to make this move. I think it's inevitable that they make the move. I just think maybe they need a little more evidence that Russell Wilson isn't going to be the guy that they need him to be. And then they flip to Jackson Dart when they think he's ready. And it's going to be when they think he's ready to go out there and play.
Remember, when Eli Manning was a rookie, they were 5-4 with Kurt Warner. And they benched Warner because that's when they thought Eli Manning was ready. And some thought they should just ride that out. They have a winning record with Kurt Warner, let Eli Manning sit until next year.
So whenever they think Dart is ready to go out there and function, given the pieces around him, that's when he's going to go. And I think it could be as soon as week three, Sunday night football, Chiefs at Giants on. NBC and Peacock. I mean, and then if it's not that, you're hard-pressed to. to look at their schedule and see something, if you will.
soft enough other than the fact that there's one at New Orleans. After home dates against the two teams that played in Brazil, and the Giants, based on their performance in week one, don't appear to be. equipped to maybe come up with a win in those games offensively. Right after New Orleans' short week against the world champs, before you visit Denver. Ask Cam Ward how that was.
At Philadelphia, home for San Francisco, at Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit. Oh my goodness. I mean, it's. It's hard to see that spot where you're like, okay, it's probably best to put the rookie in now, maybe week five. If not, I know.
Week three might be a little bit more interesting if it is a Jackson Dart. first career start uh for you and the crew on NBC, but I don't know, I don't see it. Where's the sword? I think week five is the one to watch because they could be 0-4 going into that game. And by then, there's enough evidence.
There'll be enough of an outcry from the fans. We've got to do something. Here comes a winnable game. Let's see what we can do. And then after that short week, you've got a little more time to get ready for the game at Denver.
It really would be something if, for the second straight year, Russell Wilson is on a team. That's going to play Denver and In Denver, and Russell Wilson doesn't get to play in that game. Last year, he had the hamstring injury. It was early for the Steelers at Denver. This year, he could get the hook before it's time to go play the Broncos in Denver.
But Yeah, they have a tough schedule this year. And I know every NFL team has an NFL schedule, but it just seems like everything is stacked against the Giants. There aren't a lot of winnable games. There's still a work in progress. And I just think the sooner they get to Jackson Dart, the sooner he gets the reps, the sooner the game starts to slow down for him, the better equipped he'll be next year.
Assuming that the power structure is still in place and there isn't a new coach that wants someone other than Jackson Dart, that's one of the ways dysfunction manifests itself with a football team. If you fire the coach in the GM after this season, the new guys inherit a guy they may not have drafted. I hope the Giants give this some time so we can see what Jackson Dart's ceiling is with the guys who brought him in. Mike Florio, before I let you go, sir, your book, Big Shield, available now for only 99 cents in e-book form. $14.99 for the print edition.
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Okay, very good. It took me. Like a month to get these. Like Bezos, what's going on, man? Like, why does it take so long to print up the books?
Maybe it's because, maybe it's because a lot of people are buying it. I'll tell myself that. And anyone else will listen. It is actually doing surprisingly well, despite the fact that I wrote it.
So, yes, Big Shield, available on Amazon, 99 cent e-book or $14.99 for this beauty right here. Look at that. Isn't that beautiful? Look at that cover. Forget the content.
Buy it for the cover. Beautiful. I love it. Maybe you sent it up with Gail King for a second. Maybe you lost him up there.
I don't know. She was thrilled about that, too. Oh, my God. That was so good. I think my crack staff is bored because look what they've apparently made.
There's the Wrath of Khan. Oh, my gosh. I don't know what's up. I don't know why I'm in the middle right there, but that's all frightened. Is that an AI generation?
Is that AI? I don't know. It certainly isn't real eye, that's for sure. But you can't have, if you're con, you can't cover up the pecs. I don't know.
Hey, listen. You gotta show it. This is apparently like a real photograph of whatever was going on back in the 80s. But the big reveal of the PECs was coming. He was getting ready to push them aside gently.
That's right. Throw the arms open and show the world. The product of the Herschel Walker push-ups and sit-ups during TV commercials routine.
Something you read in your local newspaper there in West Virginia, I'm sure. Thank you. 1985. Mike Florio, thanks for the time, brother. We'll chat again soon.
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Okay. Steelers go and get Tyreek Hill. You know, they feel like this is the time for Rodgers. Put him in the basket.
Sorry, when you looked up what I was talking to Brockman during the interview, that's what you were saying. Rodgers throws for four touchdowns, and you think, again, if the run game's not. uh going to be the focal point. Then get Rogers Tyreek Hill. And if they think how Kevin Austin, right, don't forget Roman Wilson, Team 140.
Well, I hadn't got there, but I was kidding. No, no, I guess that's it. It's just like. Russ is here. Let's put the eggs in the basket.
And it's an interesting analogy that He's like, this year's Devontae Adams. Which is done with one team. And now he comes and becomes the guy for Rogers. Except, I guess does that make DK Metcalf the Garrett Wilson of this scenario? I guess so.
And the one thing that's not going to happen is they're not going to fire their coach in the middle of all this and replace the offensive coordinator. Please believe it. Because that's what happened with the Jets last year, in case you forgot. All right, 844-204-Rich is the number to dial your phone calls when we come back right here. Mike meeting Kim's an hour number two here on the program.
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What's up, David? Hey, Rich, how you doing? I'm doing fine. Good to be on the show. Have you have you?
You're going to love me, man. I agree with you 1000% on the Brock Purdy Mac Jones. dilemma here. Yeah. They signed Mac Jones to do exactly to come in when Brock Furdy gets hurt.
Inevitably, they probably. saw this coming in the future.
So he's going to come in. He's going to win them the games. I'm going to start Ricky Pearsall in fantasy. He's going to Hit all the ogres on his props.
Okay. And he's going to come in and then. Raven Brock pretty gets out, gets a nice pat on the back, and gets to you know, ride the pine until Purdy gets hurt in the playoffs. Wow. What a call, David.
You're making lots of calls right here, including one for this program. Listen, that's the idea. I don't think they saw this. You just got to plan in advance. And And if Mac Jones is becoming available and you liked him in the draft and you think he can.
Do this exact job. That's why you have him. And I think he will be, I think he's going to be just fine. Actually. You know, and they have a last place schedule.
Yeah, they have a last play schedule, and there are some winnable games. on their schedule over the next, you know, um Few weeks. I mean, you got a starting quarterback as your backup. I mean, they couldn't have have finessed any harder with side and back Jones.
Okay. Thanks for the call. Wait, so I just have a question for tonight's game, not gambling advice. How do we feel about the over-under on the On the game tonight.
So this is not gambling. But you're asking me about who's going over or under.
Okay, just I appreciate the heads up. Chris, you want to take this one? Chris, what is the number? I don't know these numbers.
So here's the deal. I'm an NFL employee. I become unfrozen caveman host when it comes to this sort of stuff. Thursdays are tough. They're usually slow out of the gates.
However, this does have the second highest total of the week, 48.5.
So Vegas expecting seven touchdowns possibly in this game. You know, if you want to tease that down a little bit, maybe go, you know, if you want to take Washington up to up to nine, seven. And get the, you know, over 40. You know, I think that's not a bad situation. I'm not really sure.
So, go on higher register. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, being a higher register. Uh-oh. Don't say that. It just all depends.
In all honesty, it really all depends on how MACA does tonight. Thanks, David. Appreciate it. Say hi to the Seinfelds near Boca there. I like shootout tonight, don't you?
Dude, what do I know? What do you shoot out? What do you know? You don't know anything. I don't know anything.
I have no idea. You can sit here and say there's going to be a lot of touchdowns scored tonight. That's a shootout. I don't know. The commanders' defense held Rust down.
You know, Jordan Love better than Russ? Sure. Or will they hold a bunch of people down? You know, did the Lions miss all their coordinators? And as Florio just said, eight assistants on the sideline, and thus the Packers just took care of business against a team ready to be rolled?
Sure. Is the defense top five in the league? Maybe. Will we find out tonight? Jaden Daniels, you know the last.
Um Jaden Daniels is the last cowboy sack for MACA. Oh yeah. He's used to taking care of business, the commanders. I'm going to drive that new drop into the ground. Is that a yes on a shootout tonight?
Does this serve as our preview of of the of the game of the game tonight? No, we need to. We'll talk about it later. I mean, this over under stuff, get out of here. Are you starting any of your fantasy players tonight?
And hope soon. Mike Daniels and Chira McTerry McLaurin need to connect from my poker league. You're expecting a shootout. You're starting all your Packers. You're starting all your Commanders.
This is a full-go game. Do I start Matthew Golden tonight? Over Tyrone Tracy? Against the Cowboys?
Well, they can't stop the rotten.
Well, they can stop the rocket.
Well, they can, they can, yeah.
Well, that's because they got rid of what's his name? What's his name? MACA. That's right. Can't you?
Use the new caliendo dropping up. Settle down just a little bit. Yeah, I guess I should. My bad. Can I make a suggestion?
It's Jerry Jones, right? Feels like a golden game tonight. A golden game tonight. I hope not because I just dropped him. Oh, dude.
He dropped Matthew Golden after one week? It wasn't anything personal. It was the fact. Talk about an overreaction. Here's the reason.
Here's the reason. Hollywood Brown is still on my waiver wire, and I had to make a decision. Number one receiver right now against. Why is it one against the other? That's like Jared Jones saying we got to stop the run, so I got to trade MACA.
Yeah. Because it's points, Rich. Who else could you have dropped? I could have dropped Puka, I guess, or I could have dropped other receivers. Come on, you have other running backs you could drop or other players?
I could drop Jameer Gibbs. No, I think this guy. Did you win last week at least? R.J. Harvey, I guess.
No, don't want to do it. I'm telling you, Nick Chubb, Tony Pollard, all starters. Nick Chubb, you could have dropped. He's an RB1. I'm not going to drop him for a receiver with a bat or the button.
I'll get going back, though. Don't worry about that. That's a. A week two game, a lot of people aren't going to talk about it because it's one of the two Monday night games and we're so far away from it right now. But Tampa and Houston, brother.
Monster a great matchup. Yeah. And if Tampa takes care of business, Houston could start 0-2. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
With Jacksonville potentially being 2-0. Man, oh man, oh man. Taking another visit Cincinnati. uh this week Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show Podcast. You can watch and listen to The Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app.
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