Biden's Campus Conundrum

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Andrew Colvin in for the one and only Charlie Kirk, who, as he mentioned yesterday, is on his way to Seattle. He is going to speaking there tonight and predictably, all hell is breaking loose. And I wanted to get right into it because it is a breaking story. Lots of incoming on it right now. Yes, we do have President Biden speaking right now at Holocaust Memorial event. We're going to play that some of those clips later if any of it's intelligible.

I promise we will give you the update. Without further ado though, I want to bring in Jason. Jason Rantz, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Honored to have you. Jason, you are the host of the Jason Rantz Show and you also got your new book, What's Killing America?

Really important book that actually ties into everything that we're talking about today. Jason, welcome to the show. Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah.

All right. So Jason, for those in our audience who maybe aren't aware, you're based in Seattle. You're in the belly of the beast. I actually used to live in Seattle once upon a time. So I know a thing or two about the city, but frankly, it's changed a lot since I was there. University of Washington, where I went, my alma mater, has changed a lot since I was there.

Charlie's obviously speaking there today, or at least we hope. Tell us what's going on on the ground. There's an encampment at the university.

Give some of the backstory here. Get us up to speed. Yeah. So we have a new autonomous zone. It's called the Liberated Zone at the University of Washington. It's taken over the quad, taken over a pretty significant chunk of the school.

You have now a little over 150 tents that have been set up by various students, but also very clearly some outsiders who don't go to UW. And they have a set of demands, including divesting from Boeing, divesting from any company that has any connection whatsoever to Israel. And they say they're not going to leave until their demands are met. And when you walk around this autonomous zone, you should understand you don't have any free speech rights because you're not supposed to talk to any members of the media. They have media liaisons who are apparently quote-unquote trained to talk to people like us. And if they spot any quote-unquote Zionists, really what they mean is Jews, what they do is they try to block you from filming. They try to intimidate you.

They stalk and harass you. And right now they're, to your point, they're attempting to stop Charlie from being able to speak. And they do so in the most ironic of ways because they're saying that in order to protect their free speech rights on campus, they have to censor Charlie because his speech, I guess, endangers the community. They don't actually say how, but I suppose it's being exposed to viewpoints that maybe they don't like.

Yeah. And so Jason, you, I mean, that's well said, and I want to get into how idiotic that rationale is, but you know, I'm told that the Antifa up in the Northwest, I mean, it's probably in the Northwest Antifa, these groups are probably the most active of anywhere in the country, perhaps. And you have a piece here. It's, my Northwest says, Jason rants, UW Seattle activists say their first amendment rights threatened by speaker they don't like.

And of course that speaker is Charlie. So, and I'm told by the way, Jason, that Antifa hawks everything you say and do up there. I mean, you are basically somebody that they, they probably check your work every morning just to get a lay of the land, right? So, um, they're very aware that we're aware and, um, there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of things that are going on behind the scenes. There's negotiations with PD, campus PD, the administration on both sides.

We had this event, Charlie scheduled this months ago before the encampment move even started. So let me just get their rationale straight. They've illegally set up camp and they're squatting at UW right now, uh, in the middle of the quad, which people don't appreciate just how beautiful the quad is. They've literally chosen the most beautiful piece of land at the university of Washington.

It's famous cherry, cherry trees, cherry blossoms in the spring. Uh, one might say they're occupying the land. They're occupying the land.

Yes. And it's, I mean, but it is absolutely beautiful and they probably hate it, right? Because all the architecture was designed by like old white men that are dead now.

Right. Maybe some Jewish men. I'm not sure, uh, that that would really get them, but they're, they're, they're illegally occupying. They're making demands. They're creating chaos, disruption on the campus and nobody wants them there. The administration is trying to get them to leave. They won't leave. So I'm assuming they're in at least an annoyance, but they're, they're pandering to them. Is that, is that really what's happening? 100%.

I mean, let's be clear. They are allowing it from the administrative level. They are allowing the students and outside agitators setting up a camp. They knew that it was going to be set up. It only had eight tents on day one.

Then it had 10, then it had 20 and now it has over 150. So they have chosen under the feckless leadership of the president of university of Washington. Her name is Anna Marie Cauce. She has allowed them to continue with this and they're not going to get involved. According to a memo that I saw a statement in a memo, at least they're not going to get involved until there's some sort of life threatening emergency. So in other words, they're waiting for a Jew to get attacked on campus before they actually do their job. But in the past you had affirmative action bake sales put on by college Republican groups and not only did the president of the school just rail against that particular activism, she put out statements, it got media coverage, she made a big deal about it. For this she's staying quiet either because she's terrified of the small group of recalcitrant activists who are antisemitic or she agrees with them.

It doesn't really matter to me at the end of the day because the same end result is a reality, which is you are allowing this hate to fester and it's only going to get worse. They're already harassing people, they're already breaking the law even beyond the encampments and the school is saying nothing. You've even got professors who are participating in this, who are pushing these students on, egging them on, giving them material support. And I found my way onto a listserv for professors over at the university of Washington and they are just as insane as the students at this encampment. My time at UW, I know it sounds crazy now, but I felt like the professors were completely reasonable in my day. I'm sure they were there, I'm sure the radicals were all over, maybe they just hadn't emerged yet or gotten the confidence to basically be their true selves and show their true ideology.

I had a great time at UW, it's a beautiful campus, beautiful city. The whole city, the whole Northwest seems to have gotten so radicalized in the last 15 years, maybe 10 years specifically. But this is the irony of it all, is they're impressing their well upon the administration, the administration's feckless.

And you mentioned this double standard, we see it at Ole Miss, right? You've got protesters and illegal encampments down there. And guess what? It's all about the white kid that might've said something untoward, might've said something gross, right?

Okay, fine. But that's where they launched the probe. The probe is going to be launched against the frat kid who did something rude to a black lady. Same thing with ASU and Turning Point USA, the administration puts out statements over the weekend if something happens in interaction with Turning Point reporters. But meanwhile, they have protests after protests. And guess what? There's no statements, there's no rush to judgment, everybody's given the benefit of the doubt.

Same thing here. These students are occupying public property, they won't leave, and now it's the conservative kid's fault that's coming in. And the only weapon Charlie is bringing with him is a pocket constitution, literally. That's about all you could say he's bringing with him, and his words. And somehow, speech is violence. I can't get over just how insane all this is.

But Jason, again, go ahead if you want to comment. Well, I was going to say, I just love the idea of speech bringing violence to these folks while they say they're not anti-Semitic whilst calling for the end of Israel. That's not at all violence. No, that's their whole thing. Oh, it's just a slogan. Don't mind that it means that we want the Muslim people to inhabit from the river to the sea and to abolish Israel.

And frankly, we're watching Biden is speaking at a Holocaust Memorial event right now, or maybe he just wrapped, but we've seen how this issue uniquely paralyzes the left because there was the donor class and then there's the far left base that Joe Biden's trying to quell. Hey, everybody, I want to tell you about this amazing company, Legacy Box. Look, Mother's Day is fast approaching and this is an amazing gift for the entire family. You're going to love Legacy Box.

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Yeah, I mean, I'll say this. I thought at the start, Joe Biden was strong on this issue. He was clearly standing with Israel. I can disagree politically or ideologically with Joe Biden while also acknowledging that how he started his response and support for Israel was the right move. And it was the move, it would have been the move that Donald Trump would have taken if he was in this position, just as far as a rhetoric perspective.

But clearly he's looked at the polling indicating that amongst younger voters, progressive base, they're not happy with him. And so he has waffled, he has kind of turned on Israel in certain respect, going after Netanyahu the way that they are, this report claiming that they're withholding ammunition in the middle of this war while also asking for billions of dollars for Ukraine. I mean, that is not the move of someone who was a friend of Israel nor a friend of American Jews.

You know, do I give him credit for saying what he just said in that clip? I mean, I guess he's talking at a Holocaust museum, right? I'm not going to pretend that he was going to come in there guns ablaze and going after Israel. But what really matters is what he says after this, when he is talking to reporters, if he ever actually talks to them, what is his message to the people who are there, the base of the Democrat party, and frankly, the squad members within the party? What's his message to them?

Why doesn't he speak directly to them? Why doesn't he tell Cori Bush and Jamal Bowman and Pramila Jayapal that their antisemitism is not welcome within the Democrat party? I seem to recall that when you've got a Republican lawmaker who is either flirting with white supremacy kind of rhetoric, or even like retweeting something, there's an immediate call to condemn that person. And I agree, I think that we should be condemning that kind of stuff very quickly, very easily. But we don't get that same response from folks on the left, they seem to be okay with all of this.

Well, exactly. And I think that, you know, you combine that with the fact that he's easing sanctions on Iranian oil sales, and, you know, sending $9 billion to Hamas, you know, all this stuff is going to be used to fund terrorism. So you're with the one hand, you're saying my relationship with Israel and commitment to its security and the Jewish people is ironclad.

And with the other hand, you're funding the very enemies that want to annihilate Israel and the Jewish people. But this same sort of feckless back and forth is also what's enabling what's going on in Seattle right now, with Charlie and this event. I mean, these protesters really do have the power in a city like Seattle.

You know this administration, you know the city better than just about anybody else, Jason. How do you see how do you see this playing out today with Charlie? Look, I mean, unfortunately, my guess is that it's going to get very contentious. I don't know if I would see you expect any kind of violence tonight. I think that you're going to see the Antifa crowd and those who are generally within that world make a showing.

I imagine that the UW is going to be working with Seattle Police Department along with their own police department, making sure that they're well staffed so that they can get in the way and maybe serve as a disincentive. But there's certainly going to be some kind of presence from folks on the radical left. And perhaps there's going to be an even larger presence from folks on the right, either those who go to the school and are comfortable actually acknowledging that they're a conservative or people in the community showing up for support to say that, hey, we outnumber the crazies here. Even conservatives on this campus will outnumber the radical Antifa members. There are more progressives there, there's no doubt, but I think that you've got the radicals that are smaller but louder. Yeah, Jason, just to your point, we've experienced a massive outpouring of support, both from our student body and our student members as well as the community. I mean, there's a ton of people. Once you get outside the core of Seattle into those, you know, just north of town, I mean, there's a lot of military presence. There's a lot of conservatives in and around Seattle, and I have a feeling a lot of them are going to come out. Jason, I want to plug your book really quick, What's Killing America.

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Go ahead and throw up 58 really quick. So it says fascist alert. Charlie Kirk is a Zionist, white supremacist, fascist, and Christian nationalist. Just throwing out all the ists. He's been invited to speak at the University of Washington. Gather your friends to disrupt, oppose, and reject white supremacy, Zionism, and Christian nationalism.

Black bloc encouraged traveling groups. We keep us safe. Fascist alert. So, and it's got a picture of Charlie's face on it. It's very, you know, all red. It looks, it kind of looks like that extreme MAGA speech that Joe Biden gave.

Same coloring. So this is kind of what we're up against. We're going to see what happens. And really it underscores a much bigger phenomenon that's happening right now. And we played a couple of those clips from Joe Biden speaking. We played one of them.

I actually want to play another one of them. This seems to be the crux of it. All right. So yes, it's good that Joe Biden's speaking at the Holocaust Memorial and he's, he's sort of making a stand. Okay, fine. At least he's paying lip service. Let's, let's get into the crux though, of why this might be a really bad thing.

Cut 64. I understand people have strong beliefs and deep convictions about the world. In America, we respect and protect the fundamental right to free speech, to debate and to debate and disagree, to protest peacefully and make our voices heard. I understand that's America, but there is no place on any campus in America, any place in America for anti-Semitism or hate speech or threats of violence of any kind. All right.

So it gets a big standing ovation, a plow line. There's no, there's no, but listen to exactly what he just said. There's no space for hate speech on college campuses.

So we can, we can find what these protesters are doing to be reprehensible. It's awful. It's vile. It's evil. It's dumb. But that's a whole different thing than to say there's no place for hate speech on campus.

That's when I start getting suspicious. Now, first we had this anti-Semitism Awareness Act, and now you're hearing from the president, the occupant of the oval, as I prefer to call him, saying that there's no space for hate speech. Now, what is hate speech? It's actually not a thing. It's not legally a thing. The First Amendment covers all speech. And we are very clear on that on this show that we support all speech being protected by the Constitution, the First Amendment of the Constitution. So watch that space.

See what happens there. Now, we oppose anti-Semitism. It's clearly rising right now.

There's no doubt about it. But in this speech, Joe Biden is also threatening universities, telling them to crack down on anti-Semitism, or they might be violating civil rights law. That's not good. That's kind of scary. Something we talk about on the show all the time is how civil rights law is used to justify sweeping crackdowns on speech.

That's bad. Even if we oppose anti-Semitism, even if we find it gross and vile, we don't want people arrested for speaking. We want them arrested for rioting, for trespassing, for assault, for violence, for blocking speakers like Charlie Kirk from even speaking on campus.

Those are things that we should be arresting people for, not speech. But what this underscores is that Joe Biden is in a really, really bad spot. On the one hand, the donor class, most Democrat leaders in Congress, they support Israel, and they oppose anti-Semitism. But for the first time in American history, there is a real Democrat caucus and constituency that is severely anti-Israel.

Not to mention the Democrat base, the activist base that Democrats rely on for canvassing and getting out the vote, for harvesting ballots, many times illegally on the ballot, and for harvesting ballots, many times illegally, I'm sure. It's that 20-something radical is so aggressively anti-Israel that Joe Biden is caught between a rock and a hard place. He's got the establishment of his party that wants him to do one thing.

He's got the activist base that wants him to do the exact opposite. The activists are demanding divestment, sanctions, and a lot more. You heard about in Seattle that they want the university to end its ties with Boeing. Boeing is one of the anchors of that city. It's fallen on much harder times recently. But Boeing is considered part of the establishment, the military-industrial complex, and they want the university to cut ties with that.

Herein lies the dilemma. Because these activists, they're threatening to sit out the rest of 2024. And vote third party or not vote at all. And they're certainly not willing to help Joe Biden get out the vote. This is the most active, loud, engaged part of what once was the Democrat coalition. And meanwhile, you have this war in Gaza that's raging.

And it shows no signs of ending anytime soon. Just hours ago, Israel apparently began operations against Rafa. And that is the last major city in Gaza still held by Hamas in the south, the last stronghold.

Yesterday was very confusing. It appeared that they had agreed to a ceasefire, that Hamas had agreed to a ceasefire. But it was on terms that Israel had not proposed. So it was a fake ceasefire, with the apparent objective of just making Israel look like the bad guys for not accepting a peace deal, a ceasefire deal.

And for a lot of people, it will work. Those activists in Seattle right now on college campus, they certainly are going to be taking Hamas aside. See, look at Hamas offered a ceasefire deal. And Israel obviously tried to correct the record and said, we did not agree to any of these terms.

You can't just have it one way. But what's happening behind the scenes is you have Joe Biden out in front saying, ironclad commitment to the security of Israel and the Jewish people. Behind the scenes, you have the Biden administration exerting tremendous amount of force on Israel, working with Iran proxies and Hamas and the UN to push them into a ceasefire deal.

So again, on the one hand, you have one action, on the other, you have the exact opposite. And then things happened last night that are a terrifying precursor of the Joe Biden campaign. Anti-Israel activists brigaded all around New York City and disrupted the Met Gala. Go ahead and show some of that B-roll, guys.

I think it's 66. So you have the Super Bowl of Fashion, as they say. It's just a snobby elitist event held every year where everybody dresses in couture, just custom-made fashion outfits, apparently. Half the women are completely naked.

It's not something you want your kids watching. Apparently, fashion nowadays just means you don't wear clothes. But these activists tore down barricades that were blocking them from Fifth Avenue near the Met Gala. And they completely swarmed the police presence there, broke down the barricades and flew in.

So you have millionaires and billionaires having this great time in their fashion ensembles. And then outside on the streets, you have the Democrat activist base completely saying, we're not going to have this. We're not going to put up with this. And so the Biden world doesn't really know what to do. Polls show that most Americans support Israel. But ironically, it's not a dominant issue. That's immigration. That's the economy.

It's crime. The border and the economy are the most important. It's clear. Every single poll shows that. And so what the Democrats are trying to do is they're trying to appease their donor base and their establishment. But they're also trying to send mixed signals to the world so that these uncommitted voters in Michigan and these protesters that you see sort of storming the police presence in New York, have something to hang their hat on. And they don't completely abandon the Biden-Democrat coalition that got them into the White House in 2020.

But this, people, we just sit back and enjoy the snake eating itself here. Let me paint this as clearly as I can. This protest movement that they are feeding, that they are appeasing, that they are pandering to, they're refusing to shut down. This is a real potential to rip apart the Democrat hardcore base.

Put it this way. If this war in Gaza drops Joe Biden's turnout by about 1%, 1%, that could be the whole election right there. It only takes a small minority to completely fracture the Democrat coalition. The margins are that narrow. So Joe Biden is running completely scared.

And they don't know what to do. But the last thing we want him to do is to go at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and say, I'm anti-hate speech and anti-Semitism is a violation of civil rights law. That is a terrible result for the country. That is a trampling of the First Amendment.

And we are headed that way quick. The Anti-Semitism Awareness Act was awful. We covered it extensively on the show. But it had broad bipartisan support, despite the fact that so many voices on social media were fighting against it. I think Charlie had a tweet that did like 9 million impressions and another one that did about 4 million impressions. That's two tweets, 13 million impressions between two tweets.

The people are completely awake to what's going on. But Joe Biden is going to get cornered. He's going to get backed into a corner politically, and he's going to make a terrible decision for the country.

That's usually what ends up happening. But liberal Jews are abandoning the Democrat Party. And he knows this. Alan Dershowitz is one of them. He's losing credibility with the Jewish community.

I mean, the Jewish community has a tremendous amount of influence, both at funding these universities, within media. He's got to be careful. We'll see what happens in the next few days.

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Play cut 68. Jurors, Casey? Just one thing that I've been sort of noticing as this has gone on is that there have been a couple times where she seems to be cracking a joke, trying to get a reaction from the jury, and our reporters in the room have noted that the jury hasn't seemed to respond to that. No, they're taking their job seriously.

I mean, what do you make of that? Humor is risky in the courtroom, especially if you go in with lines like it looks like Stormy. If something happens spontaneously, if an easel falls over, people will laugh. They're human. But it's not going well. People will laugh. They're human. But it's never going to work if you go in there like, I'm going to amuse the jury.

I'm going to sort of say this clever thing. So the porn star, Stormy Daniels, has been brought out in front of court, not because she has any particular relevance to the case. That point has been made time and time again by legal scholars. Not that she knows anything about the dealings. I mean, because remember, this is about who paid what for whom and this kind of thing.

Stormy has no idea who arranged what. By the way, there was testimony yesterday that said that Trump did not direct how to account for the payment to Michael Cohen. So the case should be basically closed on that. But Stormy Daniels is brought out to embarrass President Trump. That's her one job. Apparently, there was references to condoms by the prosecuting attorneys, because they want this to be as salacious as possible. This is a PR campaign against President Trump. It's as simple as that. But she goes up there and she tries to crack jokes.

She's trying to be funny, and they're not having it. So imagine that a porn star just totally blowing it in court. Let's go ahead and play Cut 69. This is Mayor Eric Adams getting asked about, is Rikers Island prepared if Trump has to go to jail?

Play Cut 69. They were talking about how he might end up in jail if he continues to violate his court orders. Is Rikers prepared for that? Do you guys have those discussions yet?

And if so, what would that even look like? Our amazing commissioner, she is prepared for whatever comes on Rikers Island, and I'm pretty sure she would be prepared to manage and deal with the situation as you see what's happening with Harvey Weinstein. We have to adjust. In this business, particularly around law enforcement, we have to adjust whatever comes our way.

But we don't want to deal with a hypothetical, but they're professionals, they'll be ready. Yes, you're actually hearing a mayor of a major US city talking about the situation. Are they prepared to put a former president, a leader of the free world, in Rikers Island for violating an unconstitutional gag order? Can you step back for just one second and appreciate the moment that we are in, the absolute banana republic insanity of the moment that we are in? And also, what does Harvey Weinstein have to do with President Trump?

Did you notice that part of it? It's not only a former president, by the way, one of our producers made a keen observation in our chat. This is a leading opposition candidate for the presidency of the United States.

He's up in the polls. And New York is prepared to throw him in jail for violating an unconstitutional gag order. Meanwhile, they're traipsing around a porn star on the stand.

Like, take a second and just appreciate the timeline that we are all living through. This is absolutely insane. And yesterday, Trump, after court adjourned for the day, he went and spoke to the media really quick.

And he said, hey, guess what? The Constitution is more important than a gag order. I will gladly risk that, and I will take that sacrifice, if it's what it takes.

I have to be able to speak. Everybody can speak and lie about me and make claims about me and I can't speak. I'm going to risk violating that gag order. He's already been fined $10,000 by Judge Mershawn, a Democrat donor and activist, whose daughter makes money off of Soros and many others. And none of this even brings up the point that Stormy Daniels and Harmeet Dillon has represented Trump in this. And she says that they've won $600,000 in judgments against Stormy Daniels and she has paid none of it. And now they're traipsing around trying to get salacious sound bites out of her. This whole thing is such a circus. Total clown show in New York. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Talk to you soon.