What Should the Milwaukee Brewers do at the Trade Deadline?

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You need Indeed. Good morning, everybody. My name is Bart Winkler. Welcome to August, August 1st.

And this is the Bart Winkler show. I will not have on this podcast as we're recording Monday after the Brewers lose to the Nationals game one. I will not have a breakdown of the United States and their game against Portugal, the women in the World Cup. Although I have planned to watch that game. I went to bed about eight o'clock on Sunday night. Woke up around seven o'clock on Monday morning. Took a nap Monday afternoon.

Watch the bird game recording this on YouTube live. I'm going to take another nap. Wake up around kickoff. Watch the game until four a.m. Take a third nap. Take my kid to school. Get some breakfast and take another nap.

And then I should be caught up and on the same wavelength as the rest of society. I can do that. I'm on sort of a vacation. I'm still doing the podcast, but no CBS shifts until Friday. No soccer stuff until next week.

So on a little bit of a vacation so I can play around with my hours or so now I'll probably sleep through the game and not see any of it. But that's fine. The intention is there.

The intention is there. Did watch this Brewers game five to three. They lost.

Would love to get your comments on it and your thoughts. I think with the trade deadline approaching, what's interesting is and I talked about this a little bit yesterday. How many games the Brewers won at the beginning of the year? That mattered because had they come in three or four games above five hundred or a couple of games back in the NFL Central and not in this back and forth with the Reds and other Cubs, I guess if the Brewers came into this weekend against the Braves and lost every game and then lost Monday night against the Nationals, they if they were five, six, seven games worse, they could be this could have been the four games to determine, OK, maybe they're going to be sellers. But the Brewers have had a decent season. And so I think they're going to get the trade deadline that they deserve.

And like Brick always says from West Dallas, he always says, have the day you deserve. I think the Brewers are going to get the trade deadline that they that they deserve. And that is not what happened last year where they traded their closer when they were at the three games up, not what may happen in future years where they're closer to the World Series and then they can trade more prospects. But they're going to trade the kind of guys and try to acquire the kind of talent that would be worthy of a team that is eight games above five hundred. And I think you saw that with the Carlos Santana trade.

All right. They traded Carlos Santana, gave up a guy who is kind of a lottery tick. There's some talent there, but we'll see. Also, this this Mark Hannah trade. Now, I've seen some people, the pitcher we gave in return for him, I thought he was number 30 on the MLB prospect list. Apparently Baseball America had him number 12 in our system, which I don't like.

I don't know what's true. Justin Jarvis. But again, that's that's those are the kind of trades this team I think is going to make. You don't want him to trade Wiemer, Freelich, Mitchell, Chirio, you know, Miserowski. They're not trading these guys, nor is this the kind of team at the major league level that maybe deserves to trade these guys. But they are a team that has put themselves in a position where they deserve to acquire a couple bats and maybe go on a run and see what happens.

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Those are my thoughts. I always like to bounce them off Brett and Tosa. I'm glad that you're here tonight, Brett. Good to see you.

How are you? Good. It's been a long time. I'm back. Well, you're back. You tried to quit the podcast very vocally, and you're still here.

So thank you. Yeah, just couldn't do it. But what do you think about those brewers? Are you back on board? So one of the things that I realized was I've always been on board. I was feeling guilt at the beginning of the season because I wasn't as into them when I was covering them. But that's just part of it.

And I did get sucked more into the NBA playoffs. But yeah, I'm on board. I think that this is a team. What sucks about this year in terms of me and whatever narrative I like to create or whatever people think I do, this is kind of like if there was ever a bites of the Appley team, Brett, I think this is it. This is a team that, again, they're making trades they deserve. Mark Hannah is not going to change the world.

Carlos Santana is not going to change the world. But this team deserves to add a couple of pieces and see what's going to happen. They're not going to get one. So they're not going to get Peter Lonzo.

They're not going to get I changed my picture to show you a tiny for a week and a half. Those things aren't happening, but at least they're like, I think they're good. They're making the trades they deserve to make. And I think that's fine. I mean, they're, they're impactful moves.

Like, yeah, I agree with you. They're not, they're not all stars. They're not MVP candidates. But if you look at the guys, they've been trotting out there for the first three months, three, four months of the season.

I mean, Mark Kanya is quite a bit better than Jesse Winker and Tyrone Taylor and Blake Perkins and Carlos Santana's a lot better than Rowdy. So the Brewers don't need to have a top five offense in the league. I mean, they were, they were 11 games over 500 up until the last four games.

And that was with a shitty ass offense. So if they can make that offense average and have great starting pitching, I mean that, listen on paper, this team isn't a world series contender, but like you get in and you have three great pitchers and Wade Miley as your fourth. I mean, I'm not saying the Brewers are going to make a long run, but they have just as good of a chance as anyone else. Baseball's proved that that's how October works.

Well, yeah. If you're going to have a strategy, that's bites of the apple to say that again, baseball's a sport to do it in. I mean the Packers, I don't know, they bite to the ad that they, that didn't work.

They suck the box bites of the apple. They were doing eight seed forever. Finally they put a contender and they win the heat doing what they did in the NBA playoffs. It was like the only time that a team did something in the NBA that happens in baseball every year where a team uses the whole season to figure out who they are, figures it out in September, finds the best version of themselves in October and then goes from there. So yeah, I think over the weekend we learned that, all right, the Braves are superior and much better than us, but I don't know. I think, again, it's all about what does this, what does this team deserve? They deserve based on what they did in the first half, they deserve a shot to add some bats and see like they're, they're doing this with guys that had, they had no intention of doing it with Monasterio can't like he's fighting for his job and he's, he's doing well. He did all right tonight before he hit in that double play.

There was, you know, Jemi Jones and the Perkins of the world, all these guys that are trying to get something out of, this is not the most intimidating lineup they've ever had. I did see a great tweets. Oh God. And I'm going to steal it, but that's okay. I do want to give credit to it.

I do have it here. The tweet was, I'll say the tweet first and find the credit. The tweet was about the Braves a couple of years ago where the Braves a couple of years ago, this is from Johnny C, the Braves a couple of years ago traded for Jack Peterson, Jorge Soler, Duvall Rosario. And none of those guys were having like tremendous seasons.

But then when they got to Atlanta, they took off. So if anything, just get bats, get Carlos Santana, get Mark Hannah, get guys that are better than what you have. And maybe something special could happen. I've got no problem with any of this so far. I think they've done what they should be doing. Yeah. I mean, Jorge Soler and Jack Peterson have had multiple 200 average seasons in the big leagues.

Like you're right. Those guys, those guys lately, they've like Jack Peterson's put a couple of nice years together, but yeah, I mean, anyone can get hot for a month. Look at Owen Miller, look at monastery. I mean, my own Miller came back to life. Monastery is going to come back to life.

Anyone can get hot in October. That's just how it works. But I will say, and this is to your point and what you've been begging for for the last couple of years, if you are going to go bites out of the apple, missing it one year. Okay. I'm fine with that. You're not going to make the playoffs every single year for, for 10, 15 years. You can't miss it back to back years when you have Burns water from Peralta and Yelich, you can't do it.

So the pressure's on. I mean, now they're probably going to go a game and a half back. I still think this team wins the division. I know they're still the favorite, but you cannot miss the playoffs two years in a row with this pitching staff. And you've got the reds and the Cubs who are playing each other tonight.

I probably won't. The podcast will probably be over by the time that that game it won't, you know what I'm trying to say, but it's six, four right now in the fifth, I guess, I don't know. Do you root? Are we in rooting for mode?

Cubs are four games back. They were supposed to be trade like sellers. They were supposed to sell Ballinger. They were supposed to sell Stroman. And now they've acquired Candelario. So all of a sudden they're like trying to Dick around here and do something.

I don't know. Yeah, I'm, I'm cheering for the Cubs. I hate the Cubs more than anyone, but the reds just beat everyone besides the burrs.

So we need them to lose when they can here. I'll ask you this one is from Jerry. Would you give up Sal free like for a lawyer Menas? So that's who I really wanted. I really wanted Eloy.

I think I'd rather give up Weimer or, or Mitchell than Sal, but you have a lot of outfielders and I still think it's possible that Jackson Cheerios up on September 1st. I really do. That guy's the real deal. So it's a fair question. It's a fair 19, 19 years old. He's in AA.

I mean, he's dominating. I feel like he'll be in AAA in the next week or two. And as long as they, as long as he's not on the roster for 45 days, he'll still be a rookie next year and they still get an draft pick if he wins the rookie of the year. So why not bring them up for two months?

I think it's legit possibility, which would be awesome. Are you and I on a good page? What you're always talking about me and talking about the brewers.

Oh yeah, no, I am. I would have stopped with listening. If I actually didn't like you. I think the brew, like I do understand. They, I think they have a good front office. Okay. Baseball, baseball wise, they are exceptionally run. They did a tremendous job in this draft and they have for years. Like you can, you can argue about the marketing and PR and that stuff. Absolutely. But baseball wise, the front office and market and Osseo exceptionally well run.

Yeah. Here's a comparison because both are well-intended the PR and the marketing they've well in, they have good intentions. The the team itself, the front office has good intentions and they go like they, they both have a pencil follow me here and they take it to the pencil sharpener and you know how sometimes you like couldn't get the pencil sharpened right in class, or it'd be like a crooked a little bit front office.

It's the perfect shape. The marketing goes up all of a sudden, somehow their Dick got in the pencil sharpener and they're like, what the how does this work? They're stupid. So that's what I think they've made some questionable, questionable decisions.

The last ever since COVID. Yeah. Why is Willie Adonis suck? I mean, that's what I was going to say before Willie Adonis and Roddy Tellez. Those guys have, I mean, you've talked about, you brought up the monasterios Perkins and all those guys, like the pitching staff is doing its job. Collin Ray to Heron, like Willie Adonis and Roddy Tellez are the reason why we're not five games up in this division. I I've defended Willie for years. He was super clutch last year.

He he's been a great brewer the last year and a half, but I mean, he's, he's awful. He's awful right now, but they're not going like this team can make the playoffs without Willie Adonis, but this team's not making it to an NLCS without Willie Adonis and Roddy Tellez. They need those guys.

As a Bretton, tell us, do you have any more like wishlist that you want to see? I think they're, I think they're done offensively. I mean, second base and third base are also are still kind of black holes, but they've got six guys. They've got terrain, Urius Anderson, monasterio, Miller and Toro. One of those guys probably goes down to AAA and the other five guys, you just play the hot hand for two months.

I think that's fine. Monasterio deserves to play every day. He's hitting your batting average guy.

He's he's kidding close to 300. I do love batting average. It's, it still tells you something. It's still a stat. Yeah. I would say it's not the best step, but it it's useful.

It's not, it tells you something. Yeah. You got to hit the ball. Yeah.

So I think they're done offensively. I Elvis Povero kind of scares me. I've said for a month here that council's never managed a bullpen like this before. Like he usually gives guys breaks. Like you're not pitching four days and four games in five days.

Like he's really pushed people. Oh yeah. If you see Piguero, other than what happened tonight, he gave up some runs.

It's Piguero Pye Amps Williams. If he can do it. Yeah. And that he's never really, he's usually pretty careful about his bullpen usage. I think with all the close games, the offense just being garbage and you know, just tight division race and who knows what his future is.

He's kind of going forward a little bit more, but I think that might come back to bite him. I mean, that's what fans always want, right? Like that.

Forget about the usage. Just throw these guys. Well, you're kind of hitting a rough patch here. So at least one reliever, Brent Suter, maybe now that Wilson's hurt. Fans would like it. Brent Suter back. Just get Josh Hayter back.

Yeah. Josh Hayter would be the perfect setup, man. You just tee that up for me. Perfect anything and guy, you know, he's not, he's not going to give you four outs.

His arm can't do it, but perfect setup guy. I'm all in. Sail for Josh Hayter. Are you going to come to our Brewers outing? Is that, is that a Wednesday or Tuesday?

The 20. So, so this is for everybody else to this Brewers outing is happening. It won't be like, it's not going to be like, I think of bill Michael's affiliate day. I used to go to that and it was very professional and they rented out one of the things and it was like, wow, this is going to be as half-assed thrown together as these shows are, but we will be there.

I have gone so far. I actually have contacted the ticket office and we'll be following up with a call with them tomorrow. I asked about that Miller light landing and they said it's open to everybody, but it's like, we would have to get in there right away if we like really wanted it. And they can sell some bleacher seats nearby, but I think people are going to want to tailgate and like strolling in the second inning. That place isn't the Miller light landing is not going to fill up by terrace tickets and roll in in the first or second. And you'll be able to go hang out there, grab beers, watch it on a Wednesday afternoon. That that sounds like a good play.

I'm a, maybe I got to check my schedule. Tickets are going to be, cause I asked, I put a pull up on this tickets are going to be anywhere from like 15 to 20 bucks. We're not sitting in the four hundreds. We're not sitting super low. The it's, it's about, it's about the experience shirts. If I need shirts, I got to get on that right away. I'll buy a shirt. I'm in for a shirt.

I don't know if I'll make it. That's still a maybe, but the shirt was going to be like tailgate first, you know, I don't want to, I should just make shirts as I should do. Also, I was going to, I was thinking, does anybody know a flag company where I can get a giant Bart Winkler show flag?

So people know where we're tailgating. I have the pulse like that you raise up in the parking lot, but I don't, I'll take, I don't know where you make a flag. I have a big USA flag.

There you go. That I, I don't know if I can legally say what I did, uh, said your limitations. There's a restaurant in Fond du Lac that flew a USA flag and I was drunk one night and I unhooked the thing and I, and I carried the flag home, but in carrying the flag, I probably carried it. Like you have to fold it a certain way. You gotta be very specific with the flag. I, I'm sure that I illegally, I'm sure I have it illegally stored here in my basement.

Everyone's everyone's stole something when they're drunk out of the bus, traffic cones, signs that you're not the only person to do that. I'd be happy to go get the flag. If you guys want to see it, I'll probably take the flag out tonight when I'm watching the USA women's game at 2 AM, are you going live for the trade deadline tomorrow?

No, because my son will be at swimming, but I'm going to do a post game again. Okay. So trade deadline. We'll do a post game with trade deadline reaction. A lot of deals happening already though.

That's kind of weird. Yeah. Usually I don't know. I don't know that there'll be much action tomorrow, but, um, yeah, as long as the reds don't get Justin Verlander, I'll I feel good about where we're at.

You got anything else or you want to hang or leave or what? Um, no, I'm kind of, I'm kind of frustrated that we lost tonight. Can't, you can't lose when burns pitches against the last place team. So five through the final tonight, if you're hanging on the edge of your seat for what actually happened, they did lose. Uh, this was like the game the other night where it was back and forth offensively for a little bit.

And then, uh, they got, they got to Piguero there after we met at home or after we were at home or at, I thought, okay, maybe the game might be over, but the nationals found some offense. They got good. Like Joey Manassas, he was good in the world baseball classic. He's good. Lane Thomas is fine. CJ Abrams Abrams is good.

Keep it Ruiz. They're not as bad. I don't think their lineups as bad as we think, but we should be beating them with Corbin burns. Yeah, absolutely.

We can't, we can't be losing to the Toby Althysers who is covering the game tonight for his station. There you go. Where, where are you at in the council is thing. Is he, is he coming back retiring council has been a scroll since he retired Marvel reference secret invasion review first five episodes into it last episode completely ruined the whole thing and ruin years of MCU very pissed off, but then the Loki trailer dropped today and it looks fucking awesome. Very excited. Uh, I, where am I with council?

He's not coming back or he would be signed. I think so too. Yeah. Although was it you with that?

Yeah. You asked Kurt hog if, what he thought on it. And he said, he truly thinks that council doesn't know whether he's coming back. I don't know that that's the case, but well, if you've got, if you've got like, cause he, cause they want him, he's got the leverage. They're not good. They don't want to move on. It's not about money.

No, no, it's, I don't think it is either. And I don't think he's going to go like to the meds. No, I mean, he doesn't, he's a very Wisconsin guy. I'm sure when he was like crossing the plate for Arizona in the world series, he's probably like thinking about whitefish bay.

Probably missing home. Honestly, what I think will happen is he'll retire either. And then him and Arnold will be the Arnold Stern's combo. He'll go to the front office, be able to do stuff when he's sitting in Oconomowoc on the lake or Pewaukee lake, wherever he bought his new house and watching his kids play baseball. But Craig is still relatively young that I think he might just take a break. He might take a break and then guess who's our manager 10 years from now. Again, Craig council.

Yeah. But why would you take a break right now when you have the best farm system you've ever had in the history of the organization? Burns and Woodruff, every fucking day. He looks so like he's aged so much in what the eight years that he's, I mean, when he took the job, it looked like he could still play. Like he won't get a hit, but he was, he can still play.

And now he legitimately looks like an old man. Yeah, I agree. All right, bud. All right.

Well, glad to see you. I'll be live tomorrow if you are around when I react to something. If there's another game like tonight where the bullpen blows and I'm probably going to be walking around the block losing my shit, but. Well, I'll need you on here when they trade for Josh Hader. If they trade for Josh Hader, I'll come on either in a bathtub with a captain Coke or with no shirt. So I will be out.

I'll be out if that happens. Trust me. All right. Good to talk to you, bud.

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Now I'm a tub. Definitely has nothing to do with my overweight status. It's all completely random and I appreciate you being, you know, a spokesperson to the little guy out there and all those suffering from PF. Now that I got that out of the way, I just wanted to say that, uh, classic brewers, classic classic brewers playing well, get my hopes up, starting to feel a little, a little brewers, brewers fever or brewers lust, if you will, you know, in first place, they beating up on the reds and great. I mean, obviously their offense is worth, but they're playing well, they're speaking out these games and then they, you know, attack against the greens. Great, great, great team. And they just get, we just, I don't even have a real word. So yeah, that's just in classic brewers fashion, get my hopes up.

All right, maybe they got something cooking here in one piece away and then they just absolutely just decided to just get swept in loose first place after putting in all that hard work over the last month or so playing really good baseball and can't even, can't even squeeze one or two one away from a high caliber team that isn't the red. So since you're mainly a brewer show now for the next probably three weeks until football season really gets going with camp and whatnot, I figured I'd call in and give you my brewery safe. Put it on the headline, Brewers against the Braves. All right, good stuff. That is Brick in West Dallas on the Carls Place voicemail line, carlofet.com backslash Bart, check out their golf simulators and buy one, go buy one right now.

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It is happening for me. What are you doing? Hot take Jake with a background. How are we looking? What's up? Why are you getting a big guy?

Bill Michael's back there. Well, my plan was to ask you some questions here tonight and then just go ahead and check my email and play minesweeper while you answered. So I just figured it was fitting.

No, you gotta, you gotta order boots for your wife. I'm not even gonna ask. Well, what's up, man? I missed, I mean the brewer conversations over. You don't care. Well, I care a little bit because as you guys, well, some of you may know I'm back on the bandwagon. We're late into the season. They're looking decent.

You know, the record's good. So I'm back on the bandwagon. Let me get the rest of my brewers.

Can I at least get them? I want to get the rest of my Mark can of stuff out of the way that I prepared. I'm here for it, but I just, I popped in and you said it's happening and I don't know what that's referring to. It's happening.

Me losing weight. Yeah. Good shit.

I lost three problems. There we go. On the way up, baby. We're on the way down. Let's go. Mark. Hannah is 34. I'm echoing on your end. Let me just mute you for a sec.

Sure. Mark. Hannah is 34 years old in exchange for Justin Jarvis. He has a club option for 2024. What is happening is Mark Hannah is owed $3.8 million for the rest of the season, but the Mets are paying that. So just like when the Mets traded max Scherzer to the Rangers, you look at it and say, Mets owner, Steve Cohen, this is a cost cutting move. They're chopping money, but yet the Mets are still paying all these guys' salaries.

So this must be a next year thing. Cause now they get out of next year where it's either an $11.5 million player option, or they buy them out for $2 million. So these players, the baseball players haven't made because in basketball, there's like a player option.

I don't know of any contracts that have this buyout either. Mark Hannah gets $11 million or they cut them, but by cutting them, they start to give them 2 million that like baseball players haven't made in the shade that way. So the brewers could keep them next year for 11 million, or they could keep rowdy.

I don't know what he's going to be. I think everybody's down on rowdy right now, or they could finally find a guy, but the Mets are going to pay some of the salary, all of the salary for the rest of the year. I joked on Twitter, it may be a down payment for the right to interview with David Stearns. Who else could be on the market? Ken Rosenthal had a list of guys that the brewers might be interested in. Candelario from the nationals. I mentioned he's on the Cubs.

Mark Hannah, he's here. Tommy Pham, brewers probably would have traded for him with the Mets if they did that. Teasco Hernandez with the Mariners could be available. I don't think he got traded yet. Paul DeJong with the Cardinals, and maybe the Red Sox trade a couple of guys, even though they're in contention. It's just that AL East is so wild.

As far as the pitching side, again, Josh Hayter's probably the most likely name, even though I don't know if that happens or not, but we will see. So that's my update on Mark Hannah. Thank you for letting me get that out there. What's new? Well, I'm glad you brought that out because that's one of the reasons I wanted to hop on tonight.

So, you know, I've made it the assertion that I'm a bandwagon Brewers fan, and I have no shame in that. So I made the X, is that what we're calling tweets now? Xs? What do you call them? No, no.

What are they? I don't think people understand why I hate this move so much from Elon. I do hate Elon.

I do hate him. But there's no reason for this move. Typically, when people rebrand, like even when we rebranded from 1,250 to 1,057, the fan, I thought that was a mistake because we should have included, it should have been 1,057, 1,250, or included, or be 1,250, the fan. We focused too much on the wrong thing. And Elon's focusing too much on the wrong thing.

We focused too much on the wrong thing. And Elon's focusing too much on the wrong thing, which is that he's got the sexual fetish towards the letter X, and I keep not finding where the shit is on my phone. It's a big fucking letter X. I haven't updated, so it's going to stay Twitter as long as it can for me.

Yeah, I got auto updates. I'm a loser. Yeah. But I think we just call it tweets. Okay. Well, we're not calling it Xs. Like, okay, if you want to do X and you need it to be X, you do your little thing.

The problem is, I'm still using it at the same frequency. Well, sure. And it's just like you're sitting in the Miller Park press box. Like it's always Miller Park that you can call, put whatever sign you want on it.

It's Miller Park. I will say since this, you've gotten me fired up about a lot of things I want to say. Since this changed to X, I've encountered people that are just flat out, like people troll, right?

But I am encountering people that are flat out dumb. And I really am trying to not be a big Twitter like, you're unemployed, Bart. And I'll be like, oh, here's my CBS Sports radio schedule.

I can only make that joke like five times. But this one guy, I go, Jordan Love made a throw. And I go, the league is not prepared for Jordan Love to be good. Like they're not. They think Jordan Love is going to be terrible. They'll maybe think he's average. I say, wait till he beats the Bears by throwing three touchdowns in week one.

And then this one guy is all obsessed. He's like, why are you singling out the Bears? Yes, you have dominance with the Bears. Why are you singing out with the Bears? Talk about the Niners. Talk about the, I said, as my friend Grant would say, my brother in Christ, the Bears play the Packers week one.

He goes, oh, whatever. I'll believe your bullshit. Look at that. Like it just, people are dumber than ever. Anyway, what's up? You set me up perfectly.

Cause that's the two things I wanted to cover tonight. Number one, I didn't realize Brewers Twitter, like the fan base on Twitter is so insufferable. So first I see people bitching about trading for Santana and trading for this new guy. And my thought process is you gave up nothing as far as high end prospects. Maybe you could argue Jarvis, but I don't know.

I have a friend who's really into this shit. He thinks Jarvis is like a long, or a long reliever in the big leagues if he makes it. Well, people don't, people don't worry. Like people see the trade and don't worry about it. They see the trade and they don't care.

They're happy. They got Mark Hannah. And then they see where he was ranked in wherever's because again, MLB prospects had him 30 and baseball reference, I think, or baseball America had him 12 in our system. So now Brewers fans we're fine with a trade. I'm going to say we're 12 prospect. Like that's it's all, that's all arbitrary anyway.

Well, the other thing that pisses me off is like, it's always the same argument of, well, it's not significant. Go get, go get a big name. And it's like, look at the deadline guys. Who's getting moved.

Nobody is getting moved. And this is as big of a seller's market that I've ever seen now, truth be told, and this is going to sting. The Brewers should probably be sellers given how much of a seller's market this is and what the core of this team is. It's not going to happen. Well, that's the argument I had with Paul Emmick last week. Yeah.

I mean, I think the Ditlin and I it's weird that like people try to will this into existence. They'll say like, Oh, you know, if you trade burn, you'll get the same return form next year. No, no, you won't. There's a huge difference between one and a half years of control and one year control. That's two playoff runs potentially. So you know, Brewer fans are weird, man. I don't, I just don't understand. Like what more could you want from them? You got two, maybe you guys fan is short for fanatic. Yeah. That's the gloss that you put over everything, but two league average guys are far and away better than what you have in your lineup right now. So that pisses me off.

Like just enjoy the ride for once. And number two, the, the glad you brought this up with Jordan love and the Packers and the bears. And it's funny, the Justin Fields stuff is starting to really warm up on Twitter where bears fans are like green Bay scared of Justin Fields. And like, what, why would I be afraid of a scat running back?

That doesn't does nothing for me. I still think he's going to be good for the right. He's a nobody Bart. And it's so weird that nobody else can see this coming. Green Bay is making the playoffs this year. Jordan love is going to be good. And the jets are not making the playoffs.

And that is going to be a disaster by week 10. Mark my words. Do you agree with me that Aaron, right? I was on a Sirius XM today with Danny canal. Look at you name dropping by the way, quick announcer note, since we're talking ESPN, he's an ESPN guy. Them getting rid of Mark Jackson is a, is an L them getting rid of Jeff Van Gundy. Look, Jeff Van Gundy by himself, Mark Jackson by himself. I've heard Mark Jackson do games with, I think his name is Mark Davis. Awful, but Van Gundy Jackson and Breen.

That is good. You put these guys that stink together and suddenly they're good. We're going to get Doris Burke, doc rivers and Mike Breen. That's such an upgrade, but Bart though, like I disagree.

I mean, obviously it's, it's down to what your taste is. But to me, Mark Jackson is like the Chuck Friedman of NBA broadcasting. Like my friend, Chuck Freeman. Yeah. A friend of the show that ghosts the, you know, we won't get into that. We're working out an agreement. I will just spoiler alert.

Oh, well, little tease there. I like it. But no, I, I, I guess I just disagree. I don't see it with Jackson. I feel like he's a guy that does no research. It seems like he's pulling stuff out of his ass and Van Gundy. It's like, he's just trying to get on his soapbox. He's not really analyzing the game.

Usually it's usually if there's a bad call, he'll explain why that's a bad call and why the league needs to change this rule. And it's, I don't know. Yeah, but there's a trio as a trio they're good. I don't know.

To me, it's like, it's so niche. Like if you like enjoy that kind of banter when I'm watching a game, like maybe that works if it's like, you know, the Hornets and the rockets are playing and there's just nothing going on, but if it's like a good game, I want people to analyze the game. Anyway, when I was on with Danny and dusty what I was saying was that there was this massive story in the NFL this last week where Sean Payton just said things that you've never heard a coach say coming into a new organization, you never hear it. And then he apologized for it or whatever, but it was just like, you never hear this. And then suddenly this massive Sean Payton story in one interview became an Aaron Rogers story because Aaron Rogers was going to be asked about it with the Nathaniel Hackett stuff. That's fine.

And Rogers can be like, yeah, you know, that's unfortunate. I, I wouldn't want, I don't think that coaches should be doing that. Okay. That's a fine answer. Not going to grab a headline. Yeah. You know, I love Nathaniel Hackett always stick up for my guy. Nobody cares, but he goes to the extremes of keep my coach's name out of your mouth.

All right. Well, now it's an Aaron Rogers story. Are you surprised by this? No. Well, no, I just know that I'm back in the game of shitting on this guy. Well, let me ask you this. Do you think there's a soul alive that truly believes that Rogers does not want to be on hard knocks?

No. Cause he signed up for quarterback like three hours later. Well, any chance he can get to make it about him, me, me, me. And I, I read like the transcript from that quote he had in regards to paid and everything was I, I, me, me, never us. We, um, no, it's a, that's par for the course for this loser. He's a, he's a classic narcissist. He's, it's always going to be about him.

And, uh, I can't wait for him to make a fool out of himself and then it's going to be even more amplified because it's in New York. Do you, uh, are you going to the tailgate thing we're doing? Hell yeah. I got it in the calendar, baby.

All right. So I'm probably gonna just buy like $15 tickets in the bleachers. Well, I mean, I don't know if, uh, I'll be sitting in the $15 seats.

I mean, we've got to have some sort of standard here, but I'll come and say hi to you guys. Like, I mean, like I'm probably gonna take my wife, like, you know, she's got to have a certain experience and, but, uh, no, I'll hang out with you like before. Cause I'm going to, I need to, I think I need, I need to put down a deposit.

I think is what I need to do. And then I say, you are going to get like tickets. I don't know if you have to go to all that trouble, Bart.

I would just say, Hey, here's where I'm sitting. And then really the fun it's like any brewers game, Bart, it's going to be about the tailgate. That's all people really care about. Uh, Matt wants to contribute a hundred dollars to upgrade 20 people to $5 better seats. Fine. Then we'll get $20 seats. I don't care. I have a very, we're not sitting, we're not sitting lower. I, I feel like this is a bleacher type game.

This is okay. This is a bleacher. Like I don't really ever sit in the bleachers ever. No, the bleachers are cool.

You might get some TV time. Then this is a, this begets a bleachers type environment. I mean, that's cool. I got my, my go-to seats that I like to buy. I don't want to say where they are because then, uh, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of like, uh, buy your own tickets. Fuck it. I don't care. That's what I'm going to do, but I know Matt will probably not be happy with me. Not divulging where my seats are. Cause he doesn't like that kind of thing. Well, he said he'd only sit in row one in the bleachers. Fair enough, but no, I'm, uh, yeah, I got it in the calendar. Don't you think the brewers owe me a box for my years of great coverage?

I feel like for one game and who's it again? I'm gonna call his ticket guy tomorrow. I'm going to be like, listen up, bitch. I was on the goddamn field at game one 63.

I was on the goddamn field when they beat the Cardinals to clinch the playoff spot. Okay. I, I am a, I am a. Well, I'll tell you what, Bart, if you can't negotiate, I have one bro shirt that I wear four days a week. Fucking respect me.

If you can't negotiate some $6 food vouchers for all of us, then, you know, you need to reevaluate yourself as a man. Yeah. Uh, it's hot in the bleachers. I want to sit in the shaded over there. Yeah, no, I, uh, I, I definitely going to be there. I'm trying to get the wife to go and it's probably better for us to have different seats. Cause I don't know if I want to bring my wife around to a lot of you cretins.

So not you specifically, but you know, like if Tony in Texas is there, I don't know if I'm bringing the old lady around. That's Mr. Steele, your girl, which side, which side gets hot third base. Where's the sun go third base. Yeah. Yeah.

Third base side. Yeah. I don't want to sit over there. I'm I'm excited to see all you guys meet each other. That's what I'm excited. I'm excited to meet some of the whack pack here, the basement boys, like I'm excited to meet Q, you know?

Yeah. I hope Q makes it. I want Matt to be there. I told Tony, he's got to fly in.

We are the basement boys, you know, and it'll be great because sometimes it gets heated in the Winkler verse, but it's that beautiful thing of you say shit on the internet that you wouldn't say to someone's face. So everybody's going to be all hunky dory and happy and should I, should I tape a show during the tailgate or just be, I think definitely for the YouTube channel for sure. Like try to capture as much of it as you can make some video. Maybe like set up a live YouTube to watch the tailgate.

Yeah. And then do like a post game show. Cause I don't drink myself, but I know a lot of the Winkler versus probably going to partake.

That could be fun. Well, that's the problem. If we're all driving there to tailgate, I don't like that. Well, yeah.

Uber, what is a lift? You can't keep your car in the parking lot, take the shuttle. Yeah. But you know, you could just walk up into a someone else's tailgate.

That's the beauty of the brewers should have a tailgate spot. No. Or like you can leave your car overnight and they won't.

Yeah. I'm surprised. I thought by this point, in our society that there would be like DUI checkpoints outside of the stadiums. Cause you know, they would just rake it in on DUIs and stuff coming out of the games. Well, the Tavern league in Wisconsin actually runs a state.

Nobody's well aware of that, but they do. Oh yeah. I'm all in on the Tavern league and well, I'm not in on them, but I'm in on them being scummy and everything bad about Wisconsin. You can trace back to the Tavern league of Wisconsin. Oh yeah. No doubt. Every single thing you want marijuana legalized Tavern league of Wisconsin and this guy. No, we are a pro bill Michael's show these days.

That's right. Hey, do you still have those clips from that old thing that you posted? We listened to them on the NFL draft night with bill interviewing Bill's fake draft interviews.

It was amazing. Just go back to that one. I got, I got, I maybe I'll send them to me.

I got them. Maybe you can re replay those. Cause those, those are classic. I feel like that was a gem that not a lot of people were, were around for, but God, that about me someday, Jake, what's that? I said, they'll say that about me someday. Oh, I've always said that about you, Bart. All right, pal.

Yeah, I'll take off, but, uh, I do want to ask you one more quick thing. Like, uh, I saw the trailer for Loki and they always say in television and movies, when you do the time travel thing that like it's over, you've run out of ideas that, so your thoughts on that? Well, they did, they did time travel and end game and everybody loved end game.

Well, that was the end though. So, you know, no Marvel. You want to, you want me to talk about this? I do.

Yeah. I legitimately want to hear your thoughts on this Loki thing. Cause they took Marvel. Marvel's great. And end game was great.

Get back. I can't hashtag ad the, the, the best part I'm doing this whole rewatch and I'm watching the Netflix ones as well as, and the best part of them is the interconnectivity. Like, I don't know if you ever watched Daredevil or Jessica Jones or Punisher, like everybody shows up in everybody else's shows, even the peripheral characters. That's all we want. We want a shared universe, but we don't know. We watch, we watch She-Hulk where it's like, everyone's fun. There's new Asgardians running around. And then the next one is like, society is broken.

There's bombs everywhere. We're coming after all the scrolls to kill them. And then we watch one thing. It's like what is, what, what is connect yourselves? The connection that we loved in the MCU is getting weak. I just, I remember watching like, I think two or three episodes of Loki with my wife and I'm like, no, I don't know. I, I, they, they took what I thought one of the most interesting characters in the MCU and they made him boring.

Like, I don't know. I wasn't digging it. Well, you sir can fuck off. All right, buddy. I'll let you go. Deuces. We'll talk soon.

MC let's go through some comments on YouTube. MC brewers are going to miss the playoffs just like last year division lead at the deadline and falter. That's a little negative. Cubs and Cardinals, no Cubs and reds still in action. Tim Shea's reds, Tim, those reds. They're making some waves again.

They're making some heat. Jason on Twitter says typical Brewers team offense can't score in the bullpen is now tired and overworked and losing to a double a Nats team. Sorry, Toby, but not sorry. Toby says this Nats team is a lot scrappier than you're giving them credit for the Brewers have to find a way to win this series too. Don't be, don't be, don't be messing on my guy, Toby. He then says the Brewers, is this true or Owen seven against the nationals A's and Rockies this year with a negative 16 run differential. Yikes.

The rest of the tweets, it looks like I read and Ken also says Loki two looks awesome as fuck. Yes, I agree. I have another voicemail here on the Carl's place voicemail line. This one is from everyone's favorite. A quickie from John it's Aaron Rogers related.

Good morning, John and Franklin with a brief continuation of my call from last week. All right. You got me fired up.

All right. Well, you partially got me fired up finding out that Rogers took a pay cut. Really, really just about puts me over the edge. You know, I hate, I hate being like the haters sports fan, hater, not hater.

I know it's where my best takes come from the vitriol, the hatred, like the bikes, but this, this is over the top. This guy's trying to walk into a phone booth and put a cape on this guy shit all over the Green Bay Packer fans. Okay. You're crapped all over us. All we did was root for you and your failures in the playoffs. That's all we did.

Aaron. So now you come over here and put your flipping tape on and act like the best guy on earth. We know who you are. And I was wondering if a part of me would root for you. I can't wait to watch this flipping jet things just collapse. We'll see how that goes here. We're going to see how that goes. Watch. That's what's happening, man. Aaron's trying to show the Packers he's better off without him, but what he's doing is direct indirectly telling the Packer fans he's better off without him.

And so that's why we're going to be all I'll be pissed. All of this can be watched on the Dan Cheney YouTube stream. Thanks to Dan. Again, for that, you can watch my video interview with Wes Hodkowitz at packers.com.

I hope you check that out. Wes gave a great kind of behind the scenes of what it's like to work for the Packers, have my interview with Kurt Hogue on there, maybe cram that one in before the deadline because he thought that like light things would happen. And so far that's kind of where we're at. And my conversation with grant bills about where up north begins in Wisconsin, that one got some play on a Reddit. Some Reddit found it, and then they had a nice debate.

Very few people then watch the video to give me likes, but it spurred something on a Reddit thread someone sent to me. We're going to be live again on Tuesday night. So I wanted to be live for the trade deadline. I will be watching my kid learn how to swim after Brewers Nationals game two, which probably makes more sense. We'll then talk about the trade deadline and the Brewers Nationals game.

It doesn't sound like Mark Hanna is going to be with the club on Tuesday at last check, which if you trade for it, guys, get your ass here, man. Kevin Mensch got on the first plane and Brewers biggest failure of the... Hey, I got something totally unrelated real quick. Totally unrelated. Somehow I was thinking about that.

This is like the first thought on my mind this morning. What are the five... This is totally unrelated. What are the five biggest Miami Dolphins moments in my lifetime? What are the five biggest Dolphins moments in my lifetime?

Being featured in a Hootie and the Blowfish song. Winning the Super Bowl in Ace Ventura. When the Patriots lost and then go undefeated. They're not Dolphins moments. Marino fake clock touchdown and the Wildcat game against the Patriots. Those are the biggest...

This is what I say. I don't know why. Many... You could argue the top three Dolphins moments of my lifetime. The year I was born, Marino went to the Super Bowl and lost. So maybe that one slips in because 85 Super Bowl would have been 86. So yeah, give him the Super Bowl. Our Ace Ventura, Hootie and the Blowfish and the Patriots not going 19-0.

Leon let Thanksgiving botch. Yeah, yeah. The top five, that's a fun bar conversation.

Also a fun bar conversation is something that I mentioned on Friday night on Zach Elb's show. Do you guys think aliens miss their window? I think aliens... There was some guy in Congress last week saying, we have bodies. We're all like, yeah, okay.

You see the Andre Hopkins sign with the Titans? Nobody gave a shit. Certainly after the pandemic, no one cares about anything.

The age of social media, I don't know. I think that the last real time for aliens to strike was maybe the 80s. Because once you get in the 90s, I don't know, they're X-Files and it's all this, I don't know. War of the Worlds would have been the peak. People were listening to the radio thinking that it was an invasion happening.

It was just some guy reading a story. But aliens could come to the earth now and it'd be like, oh, cool. Here's another group to discriminate against wildly. They'd be like, no, we're trying to conquer your human race. We're already killing each other.

It's fine. We got no hope for humanity. Just fucking take whatever you want and leave. But not our guns. All right. That's a good ending point. Live tomorrow, Tuesday night after Bruce Nationals and the trade deadline.

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