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Bart and Andrew's Excellent Adventure, Kevin Holden live from the Stanley Cup Finals

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June 4, 2026 5:48 pm

Bart and Andrew's Excellent Adventure, Kevin Holden live from the Stanley Cup Finals

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Yeah. Evening, everybody. Welcome into the Winklerverse. I'm Bart Winkler. With us today is Andrew Wagner on a random Thursday night.

And I was going to do... This doesn't matter, but I was going to do a podcast Friday morning. And then let's text them with legs. And he said, Should we just do one now? And I said, okay.

And so here we are. On a random third. Because what else are we going to do on a Thursday night when we don't have to be up for anything in the morning?

Well, you have to get the kid to school. I gotta take the kid to school. Yeah. And then I come home.

So I take the kid to school.

Some days I make them a lunch. And then we go to school and I drop them off. And I'm feeling pretty good. I'm up. I had a coffee.

I'm feeling pretty good. I get home. It's. 820 and then I And then I'm like. And then I'm like, now what?

Yeah. Yep, absolutely. Today I took a two-hour nap. After a two-hour walk. Two hour walk, there you go, like you earned that two hour nap.

Yeah. I did, I did take a two-hour, I did take a two-hour walk today. Um I did. Big Ron says. Let's Wait, I tried to share my link.

YouTube rejected my comment. I can't share the link on YouTube? I'm trying to share the link. We want people to join us if you want to go. Big Ron says, let's fucking go.

Dustin says, What's with that hat? This is a hat. This is the old logo of the San Jose Clash MLS team. But as a lot of people think, and as you said when we first. Jumped on here, you thought this was a penis and balls.

Adel. Yeah. And because And I know we're going to argue about this later, but I'm going to say this now. Because, as you know, I'm about to become insufferable and mocking once the kickie ball tournament starts. But I have always given you credit, which pains me because.

Giving you credit sucks. You are the lone American I know that, like. Is all into soccer and watches the English League. but you actually know MLS. Like, you actually pay attention to it.

And what's the fucking thing? But. I mean, kind of. More than most. More you got you got all those people that show up to Highberry on whatever Saturday morning because they bleed for.

Livertown, or whatever. They go into the beer hall to watch, you know, Byron play. Also, it's a pet peeve. It's either Bayern Minchen or Bavarian Munich. Like, know your translations.

But you would. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Because. Hold the fuck on. Because When it comes to the Premier League.

You know my story about the Premier League, right? I went to Vegas for my bachelor party. I needed a Premier League team. And I played a I played um I'm sorry. I've said the story a hundred times, but I'll tell you.

It's new to me. It's new to me. I was in it was at the Luxor. And I was in a poker tournament. And I fucking dominated this tournament and it was a 50 people tournament.

And I got to the final four. And then there was one guy, I don't know, he's not part of the story, but then there were two people from England. One was a guy named Seamus. And then one was another lady. And when we got to the final four, the lady goes.

What do you guys think, do you want to chop the part? And I'm like, excuse me? She goes, do you want to chop the pot? Do you want to split four ways? And I at the table.

And I've never said this word on the podcast, so I'm not going to say it.

Okay. But I said At the table I said, What do you think, you fucking C? Don't forget. Yeah. And she's like.

What'd you say to me? And I'm like. I'm here to fucking win, lady. I was black. it's What does it have to do with, by the way, Byron?

Oh, I'll tell you.

Okay. Fix. But then We got her out. I got her out like immediately after that. I I played shitty cards.

Just, I'm like, I'm getting this fucking lady out. And I got her out. And I was like. Later, see. Yeah.

And these other two people are like, what the fuck? Then I got the other guy out. And then it was down to me and Seamus. And Seamus and I had a little back and forth. And then, um...

I won.

So I won the tournament. And I was like, hey, buddy. Let's go. I'll get you a shot. Great battle.

So I bought him a shot, and he's from England. I said, I need a Premier League team. Whoever you root for. I will root for unless. It's Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U or Man City.

Because I'm not I'm not gonna be I'm not going to be like you wanting a baseball team and root for the fucking Yankees or Dodgers. And he said, I root for West Ham. They're never too good, they're never too bad, they're always in the middle. I go. Wisconsin.

That's perfect.

So I root for West Ham. Uh they got relegated, but I'm a West Ham ride or die. And so that's who I like in that's who I like in the soccer show. Yeah. But For German soccer, Wags.

For German soccer, I went to Germany in high school. And we stayed in Munich. And I am a Bayern München fan, my friend, I am a Bayern-Munchen fan. I've actually got one of those scarves from 1994 when they Well, I mean, they win the th damn thing like they played Manchester United. In the Champions League when we were in Germany.

And I saw two groups of fans chanting back and forth at each other. And I thought, oh my God, could this ever happen in America? And the answer is no, because we're a week away from the World Cup and nobody knows. Uh that it's even happening. Regardless.

As Holden says, look at these two dudes. And he's getting a fucking text message. Should Holden be working right now? Yeah, aren't they playing the hurricanes? They're losing.

Yeah. Way to be professional. What do you do? Work for CBS 58?

So another thing I want to tell you is I just spent The most money that anyone's ever spent at Walgreens, which is why we need you to be a part of the donation club: $3.99 a month to donate to the pod on YouTube. I spent $205 at Walgreens. I mean, that's not hard to do. Walgreens is ridiculously expensive. Let me show you what I bought though.

I bought three of these.

Okay. These are these are World Cup tubes. And And I bought another nine bucks. These are sticker books. Oh, Jesus.

So. Every I coach soccer, and this weekend's our last game. And so I always buy the kids something. And last year I got them medals. And this year, I'm getting World Cup sticker books.

And so one of these tins. Costs fifty bucks. She answers. Yeah, so I spend Kevin Holden's here. I spent $200.

Are you at the game? Where are you? Yeah. You're at the Stanley Cup final right now. I am.

You want to see the glamorous view I'm looking at right now? Hey, Kevin. don't don't complain about this sneak in credential did you just sneak in I don't know if the hurricanes have a violating the spirit of hockey clause for their media. I've heard Wait. Yeah.

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Give me a second. I'll get you to actually something better here. Hang tight. Yeah. I was coming out of the bathroom, if I'm being honest.

What's going on, fellas? Shit or pee? We're unemployed. I made it. I made it.

You're that far deep in the annals of the hockey arena. Kevin Hull just took a shit, ladies and gentlemen. I was trying to. I was trying to, and I was unsuccessful. All right, hang on.

Here we go. Arted came to shit but only farted. That's pretty much what happened. And then I then I saw your podcast and now I feel better. There's that.

Wow.

Okay. But hang on, A lot of people don't know this. Let me just say. A lot of people do not know this. Kevin Holden.

Why is he not in Milwaukee anymore? It's not because of anything that you might suspect. He's just such a die-hard NHL fan that he needed to move to a hockey market. I was the Admirals, I like the Admirals, but I need some National Hockey League, folks.

So he moved to Raleigh, Durham. That was in the contract. It's holy look at this! Holy shit, fucking family cum. Number of live broadcast regulations.

Well done. What? People think that you sit out like that. My job is to sit right there on the ice and like, you know, talk with the players about their habits or whatever. Here is where we actually are sitting during this.

Go on the ice, like that fan last night that took a selfie with Wemby. That's amazing, right? Hang on. This is where. This is where I actually am.

Oh yeah, that's where they stick, you nerds. Hey, it's better than my view at the MLDS, let me tell you. Oh god. Yeah, your view was driving back on highway 41. Yeah.

Yep. Actually, it was up track. And yeah, we Yeah, but a lot more. It up and tell that whole story. Once the standard.

You are cutting in and out legs. Oh, all right. I think it's just shitty AirPods. What uh What's happening in the Winklerverse tonight? I was not going to do anything.

And then Wagner's like, we're both bored and losers.

So we should do a podcast. And then I said, okay. And then. Uh you jumped on.

So thanks for saving this. I I uh I'm glad to. I should probably tilt this where I'm not vertical. No, we like Icy Verts in this lane. You actually saved the pod because I was talking about soccer, and Wagner was like.

Climbing up the hone. It was a good story. I enjoyed it. Yeah. I have a serious question though, Kevin.

Yeah, so it If the Kanes win this thing. Is that the grand slam for you? Because you had the Bucks, you had the Packers, and didn't you cover the Braves win a World Series? No, my two World Series were losses. The Astros got swept by the White Sox.

And Ray's lost to the Phillies in that in that weird winter weather series where they had to postpone it. Yeah, I was 0 for 2 on the baseball realm.

So Grand Slam of covering, but not Grand Slam of titles, sadly. Yeah, close. Are you covering any World Cup action? There's like eight teams and. Carolina.

Yeah, it's it's Charlotte, unfortunately. It's it's it's like two and a half hours away. Um but when this is done I am telling you, like you, you thought the summer was slow in Milwaukee. There is jack shit here once this is done.

So I'm probably going to go down there because there just won't be anything else to do, you know? You know what I'm doing this weekend, and I already want to fucking come up with an excuse. I'm going to Banana Ball at Miller Park. Oh. I understand.

You both go, oh, I hate banana ball. I hate it. I fucking hate it. And I used to wear, because my wife and I went to Savannah, it was kind of like our fake honeymoon. Um And we went there.

I love Savannah. It was so cool. And so the Savannah bananas were like just beginning to be a thing.

So I'd wear the shirt, and then I wore the shirt all the time. And people are like, oh, you like Banana Ball? And eventually I. I like singularly drove to Goodwill for one item to give them the shirt because I was tired about talking about. Fucking uh Savannah Banana Ball.

Yeah. Well, and the whole thing that, oh, do you hate the Harlem Globetrotters? The Harlem Globetrotters don't have their own page on ESPN, get covered during Sports Center. Um and get Yeah. Not that the yard.

like trying to, you know. Dunk on popcorn boxes and stuff like that, like all the tricks the Glow Trotters do. But you got these kids shooting. They lose a lot, Wigs. Yeah, I can't.

It's dumb. Like if you enjoy it, great, but stop forcing it. Broke. I mean, it's fine. It's not baseball, right?

Like, it's not. They happen to have bats and balls, but it's not baseball. What they're doing is not. My kid already likes baseball. And I'm worried if I take him to this.

He's gonna like this better. And then they're charging for He's going to start thinking he can wear the first three buttons of his jersey unbuttoned in Little League and think it's okay, right? Speaking of Jersey. Big Ron is in Jersey. Hey Brian, how's it going, guys?

He wanted to say hi to you boys. It's an honor to be on with you guys, man. I'm the only like non-celebrity on in this quad box here. Look at this. The fuck you're not.

Seriously. You're the biggest celebrity of all of us. What's up, Ron? I'm just going to be thinking about Holton. He's at the Stanley Cup.

Go to him first. Yeah, I'm actually I got the Stanley Cup on right here, man. Yeah, it's right on the other side of that, right there. It's right on the other side of that thing.

Well, I saw you open the door, Kevin. That was awesome, man. He got a quick glimpse. Unfortunately, my Vegas Golden Knights are getting the better of your Carolina Hurricanes here. Hurricanes have basically Vegas is playing the Hurricanes defense, and the Hurricanes can't score on it.

Well, yeah, and this guy that scored like 12 goals in the entire regular season has like 12 or 13 in the playoffs, and he's got two today. They've gotten a Cinderella story. They've got to come up with more from the first line. I mean, Jarvis, Ajo, Svetchnikov, were terrific all season. They haven't done anything.

Vegas is actually getting some good goalie players.

Sorry, I I need uh I need my good luck beverage here if we're going to do this. Shipe. What the fuck is that? like a cherry colon steroids it's a very north carolina kind of thing Yeah. Do you drink regular?

Hey, hold on. Do you drink regular soda, Kevin? It's empty calories, man. You got to go diet. No, no, I only do this for the superstition of it, because...

Because we last year in the playoffs, when I started drinking it, they would score. I miss you, Kevin. I miss you, Bart. I was going to come up for your date at American Family Fields in Milan. August 6th, the tailgate, August 6th.

Yeah, let me see if I can get up there. Meets it. It's a Thursday after Wagner can be in the parking lot, but probably not in the stadium. I'm probably not even out in the parking lot. You can come in.

I'll drive you there in my trunk, buddy. Wagner, you know you have. You have all the support in the world for me, but that picture. When you were on the train back.

Okay. is iconic. I really The button. You don't remember that? You don't remember that?

This is probably one of my social media posts that didn't help my cause. Hey, I got a question for Holdy, man. What's up, Ron? What what uh what are the some of the subtle differences between North Carolina and Wisconsin? Yeah.

The cuisine is different. Yeah. How so? Is it like barbecue down there? Or what's the cuisine in North Carolina?

Yeah, it's barbecue. And you got to understand that when you decide the barbecue that you like, you are taking a stand in the race of human history, right? Uh there's a there's a thing called West Which w and then east and west barbecue sauce. Is closer to what you know, like the darker, the barbecue sausage kind of thing. The east.

Barbecue sauce is vinegar based. And if you choose the wrong one, you could get escorted out of the state. Oh yeah. They take that shit seriously, man. Yeah, it's.

It's wild. Hang on a second. I'll tell you some of the differences between New Jersey and Wisconsin. First of all, there's no fish fries out here in New Jersey, which totally sucks. There's no brandy old fashions.

They don't garnish bloody Marys. They don't serve them with chasers. They don't ask you at a bar when you order a drink if you want single or double, tall or short. I miss that.

So I can't tell you how much I miss those little things, man. Same differences. Same. Like it's it like I can get A bloody mary here, but if I were to ask for a sidecar or a chaser or something, they would look at me like I have three heads. Does not happen here.

Wonderful people, very nice people, but um. Yeah, you know. I'm used to going to the corner bar. Around from where I lived up there, and having the bar owner.

Well, into his night on the last stool. And asking me about you miss McGuire's, just say it. You miss McGuire. I miss Stanny McGuire asking me about my softball events. Danny, you know, Danny's probably there.

You could probably get Danny on this thing right now if Timmy was there. Timmy could dial a call for him. Kevin, I got to say something. I have a question for Kevin.

So, as somebody who likes to make a big deal about my sign-off. Which like torched my career, I guess. Um When TV people sign off, okay, a couple of things that TV people do that piss me off the most. One is when Though female anchors like accidentally wear the same color and they have to take a fucking picture every goddamn time. That is so fucking stupid.

The other thing. is when they sign off. It's always like, I watch this kid from Green Bay sign off for a weather, and they're always just like, The North Central Valley, Missouri community welcomed me with open arms. I will never forget the people that I've like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, you know?

That's that's all I got. Would you would you? Would you love a situation where they were literally like, I wanted to be here, but it was a terrible situation.

So, screw this, I'm gone. And they walk off the set, like the one in Alaska. Did you ever see the reporter in Alaska? There's like people that have signed off from TMJ4 in the last, let's say, two years. That the only time I've ever seen them ever is when they post their sign-off, they're never on the fucking TV, they're never on the news.

I don't know what, I don't know what newscast these people are on, but it's like, my two years here, who are you? I'm just meeting you right the fuck now. Did you see who signed off last night? Yeah. Brodsky.

What? Grotsky's last day at 58 was yesterday. Why? What? He gone.

Where's he going? Gonna be a financial planner. What? Mm. I'm going to text him right now.

Has he not told you guys this? Seriously? He sent me this whole diatribe thanking me for the last decade. I just texted him. You're out?

He's gonna kill me. He's gonna kill you?

Someone talk. What? What, Kevin? I missed you, Wagner.

Sorry. You were saying something. That's it. I haven't heard from That's shocking if we can't. I'm tweeting from You are still cutting out, Andrew.

Yeah, he's uh he is uh He's going into sanity. And there are rumors that Darius Joshua was headed east as well. But what? DJ Craziness. I'm just breaking stuff left and right here.

You're the breaking news, man, Holdie. How about them brewers, baby? Oh, I miss them. We have the package. Murph, I miss Murph so much.

Murph is awesome, man. Murph is a treasure and a treat. Just Can't oh, who is that? Look at this. It's two Wagners.

God help us all. I'm keeping this one. I'm just keeping this one up. It's the real life wags and then the Miller Park press box wags. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh I miss you guys too. Like, this, this, look, it's fun, man. I'm at the Stanley Cup final. You know, I got no complaints, but you know, I miss the hell out of you guys.

I just told Grotzky to join. I don't know if he's gonna order. Nice. In the meantime, since it won't, let me post the comment. Jacob Anderson 3903.

You need to find me on Twitter and send me a message, your contact info, because you have just. Spoken the words right out of my heart. Hot take. There is no such thing as a good fish fry or a bad fish fry. It's just a fish fry.

Finally, finally, someone speaks the truth. You people in this state are obsessed with fish fry, and every bar is like, we have the best fish fry. No, you don't. You have Todd from. whatever that generic food supplier is deep fried in dirty oil Served up with French fries.

It's fish. Wow, Wagner is not joining us. Coming in hot. Hey. Um I'm moving here.

Fuck the Rongo. Thank you, guys. I'm moving here. Oh, sorry, I thought I had a shot. I was going to try to get you guys out there, but.

The door closed on me. I told you, go on the ice.

Okay. Hey, you want here's a classic Winklerverse segment.

So what what happens now? What do you mean what happens now? What do you mean? What do you mean, Kevin? Kevin Holden.

A net. That's a net. That's a reserve net at the Stanley Cup final. We got goals, we got nets. Hey, I want to show you guys something, ready?

You ready for some prop comedy? Fuck did Wagner go? What is happening? Kevin, turn your phone around. Part of unmuted.

No. I can't hear you. Ron couldn't either. Ugh, what have I done? I suck.

All right, I gotta get back anyway. It's good to see you guys. Have all the fun. All right. Love you.

Can people hear me? Just confirm that you can hear me. I have prop comedy. I'm very excited for it. We are brought to you by Happy Place having promo code BART.

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Um excited for that. Again, you can use the promo code BART. 25% off. at happyplacehem.com. Holden said he couldn't hear, and then Ron said he couldn't hear, but you can hear.

I can hear you now. And Craig Thompson is joining us. I can hear you. Craigie! What's up, Bart?

Long time. You want to see something sick? Sure. Here is the Packers Super Bowl article. From the Lacrosse Tribune.

On January 16th, 1967. How about this? Is this sick as fuck? Where'd you find that? Like, did your dad have it?

My dad had it. Thank you for supporting print journalism. Here's the Journal Sentinel when Bart Starr led the Browns. Or led the Packers over the Browns in the NFL championship. Or just the journal rather.

They didn't merge yet. The world just How about this? What's this shit worth? Speaking of Nothing. I guess it's worth it I guess if they were I mean, it really is worth whatever.

Somebody wants to buy it for. I mean, if somebody was interested in it. It's really worth what they'd be willing to buy it for, wouldn't it? If the byline said by Andrew Wagner, I'd burn that shit so fucking fast. I mean, I guess it'd be I guess you put it up for auction, really.

Yeah, what's up, Craig? What are you doing tonight? Not much. I saw you're on live and I saw that you're having a meetup on the brewer game, but was that August 8th? I'm going to do August 6th, but it's a Thursday afternoon.

Okay. So that could be doable. Yeah, you want to come? Yeah, I might make the drive down from west central Wisconsin. If you come all that way, I'll buy your $20 outfield ticket, Craig.

All right. I might actually come because I was actually at the Monday game and I had a good time. Oh, yeah. Oh, by the way, the brewers split with the giants. If anyone's horrible today, it was horrible.

Simple. Yeah, you're going to have stinkers like that over the course of 162 years. Yeah. It's going to happen. Are we doing tarps off?

No. Hell no. Yeah. If Craig does tarps off, I will. Jesus Christ, nobody wants to see this body.

I went to a male strip joint one night and they paid the they paid me to put my clothes back on. Nice. Nice. Craig, I have a question for you, and sorry if it's too personal. No, go ahead.

I knew what it was. Like four years ago, you told me you were dying. Oh no, I still have cancer. Oh. Yeah, no, they've taken, they've removed the kidney and they removed the tumor twice from my spine.

And now it was just starting to grow.

Now one of the lymph nodes is growing.

So it just had Um Radiation for that and I think the 15th of this month I go and I get that like. I got a new body scan again to see if if that's. Stop here if it's possible. How do you feel? Do you feel fine or do you like...

I mean, I'm in a lot of pain all the time. Crazy. And the two spinal surgeries. Is left my left hand like I can't move my fingers.

So I could like move my wrists and everything, but I can't do anything with like my fingers are just dead.

So I have like this weird hand that just like does nothing for me. Craig, I'm also going to buy. I'm going to buy you a plus one as well. What a hero. I'm going to buy your ticket and a plus one.

You got to pay for the $4 gas to get down here, but I'll buy you two tickets to the Winkler vs. Tilt. I'm good. Nah, you don't even have to buy me one ticket, dude. I can get my own tickets.

No, Craig. Come on. No, when you, yeah, I guess, well, four years ago, I was back in, I was in Arizona and. I guess when, yeah, that was during football. Like, I had my kidney removed during football season, so those.

Couple of times when I called, I was like recovering from surgery. That's why I was like. In the gown and shit.

So, yeah. But I was just so excited, or I can't remember if I was just so excited or just so pissed. about that team at that point.

So Probably. Where in West Central are you? Yeah, where are you, Craig? I live in Whitehall.

Okay. Oh. So just between Eau Claire and La Crosse. Yep. Yeah, I've driven through there and spit out the window.

Yeah. Yes, you blink, you you blink, you lose it. In fact, I was down in lacrosse today. Today, what were you doing? Doctor's appointment.

At Franciscan Skemp. Gunderson Lutheran. Gunderson Lutheran art.

Now it's amplified by Gunderson. I used to live right behind Gunderson. Oh, that just sucked. 1911 Miller Street, apartment 57. That had been horrible.

Real traffic down there is just so bad. Yeah. Shoot. This PC I I'm sure it was done every day by five though. Wagner, are you looking at my old apartment?

No, I'd keep this PCA play keeps showing up on my feed and it is. God awful hilarious. He fucked up a little bit. Be fucked up again. It is it it it's it's epic and peak.

I I sent you the link. Oh, I'll check your adding. It's good. Bart, who do you have? Who's your favorite for the World Cup?

I don't know. I don't. The thing about the World Cup is, I'm very excited, but I don't know anything about it. Like, I don't know any teams. I don't know who's good.

I would probably say I did a. I did a bracket where I took Who did I take to win? I took Belgium to win. I guess that's as good as. We have it all.

It's going to be Spain or Brazil or Argentina or. Yeah. Germany. Or France. For those of you excited about the World Cup.

Uh The first two weeks are gonna be fucking terrible. Because, like, every game is going to be nine to nothing. Yeah, didn't they expand it? There's all these shitty, yeah, there's all these, like, there's all these like tiny little teams. Yeah.

Oh, Jake says you have to bring up. Christian Watson. Christian Watson's getting $27 million a year, which I understand is like the going rate, but that's a lot of fucking money for Christian Watson, dude. I think we can all admit that. How many years is that?

Yeah. But there might be outs and shit. I don't fucking know. Is there a clause that his relatives can't use Twitter anymore? You stole my Twitter joke, Weggs.

Well I honestly That I actually didn't know. That's the exact thing I tweeted. Yeah, that was the exact thing that he tweeted. And then someone's like, oh, you should fucking talk. Hey, I'm on Twitter way too fucking much, but you don't see my family coming and defending me.

Okay, you ain't seeing that. Yeah, no, it's good value for where he is, but Christian Watson, remember when Chris Middleton signed a four-year contract for $44 million? And everyone's like, what the fuck, Chris Middleton's making $10 million? I'm like, well, the salary is going up, and it's, I understand it. But Christian Watson making 27 is way more egregious than Jordan Love making 55.

You've got to put an aim play of that colour. You know, the Packers have won they traded some guys, they've got guys. It's better to have, like, all right, we have Watson, Reed, Kraft, whatever, and Golden instead of like, hey, we have nine guys that are number one receivers.

So at least they're sort of making a declaration. What are you watching, Crane? Oh, I can turn it down. Is that a Menards commercial? Yeah, it's in between.

I'm watching. As much as Stanley Cup. Natal Kapad. Yeah, I'm fucking Vegas. Fucking Vegas.

How are they so good all the time? I have no idea. Like, I just it. It hurts me because Las Vegas shouldn't have a hockey team and neither should Fucking wherever that is in North Carolina. Raleigh.

Is that where it is, Raleigh? Yeah. Yeah, they don't need a hockey team in North Carolina. And the coyotes need to be back in Phoenix. I'll die on that hill.

So, where did Hartford go? I don't, I never know the. Hartford is Carolina. Hartford moved to Carolina. And it's bullshit that Carolina wears Hartford jerseys as.

Yeah. Alternates like it's stolen valor. Brass Bonanza is an absolute banger of a song.

So, where did who are the other ones? Where did the Nordiques go? Death. Yep, they went to Colorado. And they'll wear floral back Nord East jerseys once in a while.

And didn't a team come back from the dead up in Canada that came back to life? The original Jets moved to Phoenix. The expansion Atlanta Thrashers ended up moving to Winnipeg like 10, 15 years later. That was the second expansion team that Atlanta lost, and now they're trying to put a bid together to get a third expansion team. Certainly.

This time it will work. Yeah. Because I've I've I'm sure if you really look at the city dynamics of Atlanta, they're really screaming for an NHL team. I mean, if you put it out in the burbs where the Braves put their stadium. I mean, and you're seeing a lot more teams do that.

Like the Dallas Stars just announced that they're building a new arena, but it's going to be out in Plano. Because It's more affluent suburbs, you know, more land to build and develop around. And like, Yeah, Dallas has no teams in Dallas. Yeah. And they're and yeah, well, don't know the Don't the stars in Mavericks play in downtown Dallas?

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And then they're gonna like. Try to talk themselves into why it is actually good. It's the worst fucking thing. It's so stupid. It's so fucking stupid.

You can't be the Chicago Bears. I don't care how close Indiana plays. You can't be the Chicago Bears and play in Indiana.

Well, the New York Giants and the New York Jets in New Jersey.

Somehow that's different. Yeah. I mean the property is literally it's literally on the state line. The only time it's going to matter, and I'm going to think this is hilarious, is if they do get the stadium, they build it in Hammond. And I guarantee that when they do end up getting a Super Bowl.

That They're going to say, oh, no, no. It's gonna be Northern Indiana and not Super Bowl in Chicago. And that's where the kicker's gonna come. They need to. Annex Hammond.

If they're going to play in, they need to annex Hammond and change the state line. Good luck with that. Not a single Indiana resident. Wisconsin used to have Chicago territory and the UP and a good Minnesota. We gave up the UP so Ohio could have Toledo.

What a crock of shit that was. Yeah. I've been to Toledo. It's a shithole. You you like driving through Gary?

Indiana exists just to delay. You're getting to wherever the hell it is that you're going. Like, that's it. There's no point to Indiana. I like that when you drive into Indiana, all of a sudden everyone sounds like they're from fucking Georgia.

Yeah, welcome to Indiana, guy. Would you like that the gas goes down by a buck fifty when you drive from Illinois into Indiana? Craig, that's a huge ceiling light you have there, buddy. And Craig's gone now. Oh, you just pissed off Craig.

Way to go. No, I did that trick. I didn't mean to I did like I know he's been dealing with cancer, but I thought he was going to die like four years ago. I love every time Craig pops in, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm glad to hear it.

Pick ass man, cancer fucking sucks. We were driving down to Chicago for that game 163, me and Chuck. And we had a listener hop on our Instagram, we were doing live. And then he died like a year later. That's the shittiest part about this: these people, you get to know them and then they die.

Yeah. I already have enough people dying in my real life and then I meet you guys and then you guys are you guys die. And it makes me sad because then I don't know, like when Rick and Oshkosh died. I only knew about that through some weird. Like back channel shit that I can't even say any more of.

You're in my will, so you get to. You get to host the open mic roast that will be my funeral. you get the right to flush the first scoop of my ashes down the toilet. That's what you're gonna do? Yeah.

Okay. I need to make a will. Yeah, probably a good thing.

Well, we're covering all the bases tonight. Except for the actual Bases. Oh, that's all right, Craig. We miss you, buddy. He said he had to get off.

All good. Keep it up, buddy. Keep at it. Anything else in the world of sports I want to cover? Christian Watson.

The Packers might trade for this Josh Sweat, or they might not. The Brewers split with the Giants. The NBA finals, that was interesting. That's all I could. Who are you pulling for in the finals?

My kid was on the Spurs last year in rec basketball.

So we like the Spurs. He also likes Wemby, but we also like the Knicks. Yeah, I'm going for the Knicks. I want Knicks in seven. He likes Brunson, he likes Towns.

Uh He would root for the we went through the scenarios. He would root for the Knicks if they played the Thunder. Oh, see, I was going for the thunder all the way, even though I will admit. They are just, it's, it's ugly basketball at times. Like, why would you root for the Thunder over the Knicks?

She's got a lot of friends down in Oklahoma. What about who are you rooting for in this series? I'm rooting for the Knicks in this series. Yeah, Knicks in seven. Yeah, I don't mind if the Knicks win.

It's a likable team, like normally you hate the New York teams and you hate all the attention that goes to it, and like they get found over and glazed. But like, I really like this team. Carl Anthony Towns, Jalen Brunson are two of the most likable guys. Tyler Kolick's on the squad. They play a Entertaining brand of basketball.

Like, I like it. I like them. They're fun to watch. Like, watching last night, I'm like, yeah, okay. I don't really care much for the NBA game anymore, but.

They looked good last night. I um I was thinking last night, I was like, does this feel like a finals? which it does but i think initially i thought that because I'm still like. The finals to me is still. Cavs versus Warriors.

It's like, because it was four years in a row, dude. It was four years in a fucking row of the same matchup. Remember when the Nuggets played the Heat?

Now that did not feel like a finals at all. No, it did not. It did not. People would say Buck Sons didn't feel like a finals to them. I was expecting to be more hoopla and jerk off over this one just because the Knicks are in it, but like.

The coverage has not been obnoxious. A regular season Mets or Yankees game. seems to get like more attention and and hoopla than like New York in the finals is getting. Oh, can we talk about the thing that I actually wanted to talk to you about and then we'll say goodnight? I got nothing to do and nowhere to go.

You can talk about whatever you want. Should we tell our origin story? Sure. So what do you remember about meeting me? Oh, we're talking about your origin story, not ours.

You and me. Wow.

I remember uh Hearing your show and thinking, what a jackass. I remember your takes a little bit. What? Go ahead. Remember your takes on Twitter and just shitting on you.

And then shitting on you when you came to the ballpark early on. I begrudgingly credited you because you would spout off your idiotic takes, and then, unlike anybody else at that station, you would actually show up. and make yourself seen and available. Like Accountability. If you're going to run your mouth and like shit on a guy the way he's playing or whatever, like.

Wait, we're just talking about how we met. Yeah. Oh, okay. How'd you guys meet? At the ballpark.

Porn Theater in Phoenix. Because I got there and it's very clicky in that press box. Yeah. But you know what? What was your first year?

You were the only person that like talked to me. My first year was. 15 because I was like, this renegade sucks to deal with. And then he got fired, and I'm like, oh, sweet, Craig Cunsel's the manager now. And then he's a piece of shit.

Yeah, I remember your early days. You were annoying as hell at first, but you did keep showing up, which is more than I could say for. Number one, anybody at that station. Um And like, yeah, I know they had like. They would send Slap interns there to just sit there and hold their microphones out like dorks every day.

Um, but you were the only like on-air person that was there regularly. You'd run your mouth off in the morning, but you'd be at the park that afternoon. And like a lot of times, you were there at night. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's how I met you.

And then we had our, you know. Hilarious Twitter feud for years, which people still ask me about, and I think is absolutely hilarious. One time I asked Eric Kratz about something he did in the ninth, and he's like, I got taken out in the seventh. You're thinking of Manny Piña. Yeah.

Yeah. I had that happen to me once with Luke. I went up and I don't remember who was pitching that day. I think it was Yovani. And, like, it's why no one talking to Luke.

And I went over there and he is eating his ice cream and his underpants like he did after every game. And I asked my question, he's like. You are You realize I was off today, right? It's like.

Son of a bitch. Ron, you got any behind-the-scenes questions about covering the Brewers?

Well, doesn't Aaron Kratz have a podcast? Is he a podcaster now? Yeah, he's part of that foul territory show. Yeah. Okay.

Scott Braun. Scott Braun used to be on MLB Network and then. He launched kind of his own project called Fall Territory. Um with it's him, Kratz, and I'm I think Pierzinski. Are the three main guys?

Scott Bronze is snow. Yeah. Yeah, except I talked to him last year about doing a brewers podcast, and he said, Oh, there's not much interest in the brewers. And then, oh, they come up with one, and oh, it's stupid Kirk.

So. So, who's the biggest prick in the press box, man? That's the thing. In the press box? Yeah.

In the press box in general, or just on the beat core, because there's two different answers.

Okay, well, I'll take both of them actually. In the press box, it's the brewers' media relations director, hands down. Like, easily one of the worst human beings to ever walk the planet. Like, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. The biggest prick in the media.

I don't know who it is now because the biggest prick in the media is no longer in the press box, and that would have been yours truly.

Okay. Oh, no, Tom was a piece of shit. Oh, Tom was, yeah, Tom was awful. Like, he was. There's a reason.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, he thought that it was his beat and his beat only in anybody else. If you're in his eyesight, he hates you. He launched into Kevin Holden ones at spring training for sitting in his.

His seat. The media workroom. You have no assigned seats in there. Um Like, lit up, oh no, it's Brandon Cruz. He lit up Brandon Cruz.

That's what it was. Wasn't holding. But Holden he made fun of. because you know the tv guys they don't go down there for the full six weeks And like Holden came down for the weekend. Holden's always in a good mood.

Never met at Brandon Cruz. When Holden said he was leaving, Tom made a joke about, oh, Hope you enjoyed your vacation. And it's like. Hey, that dude is leaving spring training after doing. An endless Packers season and playoff run and all the offseason shit.

Comes down, does spring training.

Now he's going to go home and. Both Wisconsin and Marquette were in the tournament. And of course, it's on 58, so they cover everything. It's like, Just had no respect for anybody else and what their jobs were, and made it. Very unpleasant.

Like that dude lit me up. Countless times in the lock in the press box in front of everyone. Did I ever tell you about when? Scott Vance, not who was, yeah, Scott Vance like, because Andy was his dad, right? Yeah.

And then who was the first baseman there? Adrian Gonzalez with the Dodgers? I think so. Did I ever tell you when he threw a paper airplane at my head? I probably ran and told you right away.

Probably. I interviewed Chase Utley. A year after the Chase Utley play? Yeah. And it had just happened.

And I was trying to ask Chase Utley, like. Whatever you think about what happened with you. It doesn't matter. When there's something that happens, people say your name. Mike.

They're like, oh, it's a Chase Utley play. And I was trying to ask him like. What's that about? What's that like? And he was fine.

Chase Hutley. I don't think wanted to talk about it. But he said yes to the interview and he was fine. And he answered the question. But then I heard Scott Van Sliko.

That was last year, bro. And then all of a sudden a fucking paper airplane whizzes by my head. It was fucking Adrian Gonzalez. Also, here's some more stories, and I've told these also. The only brewer.

That I went up to for an interview. That denied me the only one. Yeah. Was Eric Thames 0 for 2. Eric really?

Yep. Really? pleasurable interaction I ever had. was with Logan Schaefer. Because I interviewed him.

My mic wasn't on. The recorder was an on. And I said, I'm really. Really sorry. I have to do this again.

And he's like. Man, that stinks, but okay. And then Uh, well, Phillips was always great. I have a great picture with Phillips and Chase Anderson, where it looks like I'm like the funniest guy ever. And then I remember talking to Jason Rodgers.

Remember him? Yes, I do. I go, I go.

So, Rogers, they're because he's a first baseman and he's playing third. And I go So d are you getting advice from like Aramis Ramirez? And he was like, whatever. And then I turned the mic off and he basically told me like Aramis does not talk to me and won't. He won't fucking talk to me.

He won't give me any pointers. I go to him to fucking get help. He doesn't care about me. Yeah, that sounds about right. I mean, Aramaic.

Well, I've always hated Aramaic. That absolutely sounds right. You know, it's funny. I remember people were so... Pissed off.

When they traded Jason Rodgers. Like, that was when I was. Yeah. That was one of, I believe, Stern's first moves. Hey, what's your Kestan here?

What's your Kestan? My theory is that Council fucking ruined his career and life. Oh, I got it. I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with y'all at all.

Why did he hate him? I bet Hero was banging his wife, Council's wife, man. That's what it was. Keston Hero is banging Mary Council. I think so, man.

Okay. Do you remember who Jason Rogers was traded for? No. No, what team was it for? To the Pirates.

He's traded the Pirates for I have no idea. Theon Broxton. Keon, I've got a great video when I was in the locker room. Keon's dancing.

Some of my, I have behind the scenes videos on YouTube. of the brewer's locker room. And no one fucking watches them. They're fucking sweet as shit. Maybe I'll pull one up right here and we can watch it together.

I've got dumping a beer on my head in Denver. Do you know how I knew I was fucked? No one dumped a beer on my head. No one, you got you got doused in St. Louis.

No, I didn't.

Well I was as dry as fucking My I'm on safe. Not your underpants, that's for sure.

Well, not my underpants, but I shit my pants. Any other questions, Ron? Any behind the scenes questions? Yeah, who's the biggest party animal in the press box and on the beat, man? Oh, you're looking at the two of them right here.

That was awesome. I was the cruise director. In fact, Uh I'm bummed out because So I always had a little hideaway bar that I would go to because like. After you're done working for the day, the last thing you want to do is like go into a bar and sit and listen to fans talking about the game that you just spent, you know, 10 hours. covering So there was a little bar just south of the ballpark on Miller Park Way called the Ice House.

That was my like. Hideout bar. And then me, Hoag, and Stern, I brought those guys there a bunch of times, and that became like our hangout. But the damn place burned down this week.

So What? Bum forever when they're, yeah. That sucks.

Okay. Growing up in Fond du Lac, I'll tell you right now. Anytime a bar burns down. That's an insurance play. I don't.

In this case, I don't think it was. Can I show you some of this video? Sure. Again, I have nowhere to go. We can sit here till midnight for all I care.

No, I ain't doing that. All right, this is 2018. I'm in the locker room. Is this St. Louis?

This is uh yeah, they they kiss uh St. Louis. Soon I think Keon's gonna dance. Taking pictures. Yeah.

Editor, etc., etc. Here's her name Perezo Atino Mateo. Cam, you seem like you've been waiting for this moment your entire life. Oh, yeah, no doubt. I've been dreaming, been wishing, been hoping, and it's happening.

You know, you're a valuable contributor to this team, whether you're down, whether you're up, whether you're defensive, whether you're a starter. You know, you've been with this team for a few years now. To see this kind of process take shape, to be able to dance the way you're dancing. I mean, just describe to me that final out what that's like. Oh, man, it's awesome.

It's a great, it's a great, satisfying feel. It's what we work for. This is what we all want to do. I'm so fucking good. How the fuck do I not have a job?

You're asking the wrong guy. Look at me in there. I'm so fucking good. Watch this. This was my favorite moment of this whole thing.

Hold on. I gotta get to it.

So I'm walking out.

Now I'm walking out of the locker room. And Brian Anderson is. Is sitting there. Watching a different baseball game, okay?

So here's me talking to BA. Ready? Oh shit. Yeah, yeah. BAM on Facebook Live.

Hi, Facebook Live. How's everybody? World's biggest baseball fan. We're watching. The end of the pirates and the cubs.

And we're getting some clean oxygen. There's no clean oxygen in that clubhouse right now. Yeah, no. Yeah, everybody's in there celebrating. Look at them.

Always studying the game. Always. We got postseason. We got a lot bigger fish and fry. Yeah, you probably can't show that.

What a beast. That guy's a beast. Yeah, you like him? He seems like a good guy. He's a good guy.

He's a good guy. Then I went on the field. And look who I ran into. Please God, don't be me. Holdy!

What's up? Holdies about to go on TV. Oh man, look at it. We got two cameras. Pirates just tied it.

They did? Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, this is like before I wore a hat every single fucking second of my life. Yeah, I walk out of the I walk out of the locker room, PA's like, like a little kid watching TV and I start shooting him and I I think he's like, kick this off of me.

But he played, you know, he played along. Anyway, that was that. I forgot about Having to like pennant or scoreboard watch the Cubs during that run. Like Go watch my old videos. I got a lot of great shit on there, guys.

Monetize him. Monetize me, Ron. That's great that you guys get to meet with all the, you know, get all this inside access to the teams and stuff, man. All I got is Twitter stuff. Ron.

Got to. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Got to.

All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember do you guys remember when um No. The Brewers had that home run derby for their alumni last year. Yeah.

Yeah, so they They all went to Carnivore the night before and they and the own I followed the owner of Carnivore. Omar is one of the greatest people in this city by far. Yeah, I've met him a couple of times and I follow him on Twitter and he posted a picture with all the brewers drinking. And I reposted it and I said, Yeah, man, all the frewer alums are getting hammered at Carnivore. That was the.

I hate to give the Brewers credit, but that was a really good, that was a really good event. Yeah, they weren't too hungover, huh? No, no. They put on a show, the people loved it. Like.

They got great guys for it. It's a shame they couldn't find a way to like. Like I understand home run derby, all right? Like There's a lot of pitchers that could have been brought back to the Miller Park era that deserve their due too. But it was a cool event.

It was one of the few things the brewers haven't done half ass and botched. Yeah, I'm sorry that uh media relations guy or whatever was such a douche, man. Yeah, that's how it goes. That's how it goes. That's the business, man.

Those who can do. Those who can't. right and those who can't Uh play or do become PR directors. I suppose. Hey, we're brothers in PR.

That's right. I was forgetting. You got four rings. Four rings, baby. You only got one.

All right, we're going to log off, but before I do that, I'm going to do. I'm gonna do one of these 82-0 things that people are fucking loving. Yeah, I have no idea what that is.

Well, you got to pick a team.

Okay. Do you just pick your own like random players?

Well, no, I'm just like Immaculate Grid? No, Uh you pick a team, I'm gonna spin, and then you get a team in a d era. And then you have to pick a guy.

So we'll go through this together with Andrew Wagner and Big Ron in Jersey's. The main reason I'm signing off is my computer's dying.

Okay. Ready? Ready? How many have the whatever? Golden State Warriors in the 80s.

Do we take Mitch Richmond? Bernard King or World Be Free. World be free. Mitchell. We got to take world be free.

World be free. We gotta put him at shooting guard. I gotta save point guard, okay? Dallas in the eight. What the this one sucks.

I'm gonna redo it. This sucks. Down to the 80s? Trying to think. No, we're redoing it.

Yeah. This one sucks. I have zero interest in it. Clippers in the tens. We gotta go blood, right?

It's the only one that I can think of. Yeah. Center or power forwards? Power forward. He's he's undersized for center.

All right, now I got Pelicans and the zeros. Oh, geez, this sucks. I could do Chris Paul. I'll put him at point. Oh, Pacers in the eight.

Jesus Christ. Let's put Chucky Pearson at. Uh small forward. Brooklyn and Jesus, this one, Vince Carter, I guess. 90 to center.

And Sacramento in the eighties. I got to go Cliff Robinson. And my record is 61 and 21. Jesus. That was a shitty fucking lineup.

Let me try one more. You're a 60-win team with that lineup. Yeah. Yeah, but you wanna go to the bottom? Ooh, buckaroos!

I'm on the Bart Winkler podcast. Is that your wife? Oh. Bray got summoned. All right, I got to take Giannis.

I did want to, I thought you could. Do one of these Where you could pick it yourself because I wanted to- That's what I thought it was. I wanted to see what Giannis, Alex, and Thanassis on a team would do. Against uh all right, so I'm gonna take Giannis. What position do I play him at?

I get the point. I'm gonna go PF. Fuck was that? That was the damn cat. You have a cat.

I've had this damn cat for over a year. I'd take it from you, but I'm allergic. Oh, Vince Carter, we're going to go. I got Raptors in the OOs. I gotta go s uh guard or forward for Vince.

What do you think? Forward. All right, let's go. Spurs in the eighties. I got to go.

I gotta go with the Ice Man. Ooh, it's all tied up in Carolina. The real ice man, George Gervin. George Gervin.

Now I got the superstar. Did it say Oklahoma City in the 90s? That's not right. It should say Seattle. I'd love to go debtless shrimp, but I can't.

Can I move, Giannis? I can.

So I'll put I want Detliff shrimp in there. All right, and then I get Denver in the tens, and I gotta go Carmelo.

Some put I could put Giannis at point. He was a point forward. But I can't put anyone at center. Oh, yoga. There you go.

What? Jokic, Gervin, Carter Shremp, and Giannis is 63 and 19.

Okay. What the fuck? Anything else, bro, chief? Nope, that's my cat's ass. Yeah, let me see the actual butthole.

Let's show some butthole. Look at that. Look at that fucking butthole. All right. Your butthole.

I'm not sure on my butt. What do you my Ebo? I don't do that. Evo shows his butthole. She's a big fan of the uh The asshole sunning.

I got to get Ebo in the Winkler verse. Oh, absolutely. Hell yes. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll do that next week.

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