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Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome into the Winklerverse. It is the 26th of May 2026. And happy Memorial Day belated to you and yours. Um There's a guy today.
He goes, Was it happening? Did you have a good Labor Day or good Memorial Day? I always mix up the two. And I feel like he's the 90th person I've ever heard say that. Anyway.
Um I would like to start. With this tarps off situation. Where Brewers fans were. being told not to Take their shirt off at a certain section. After After The team.
Talked about it and hyped it up on Friday. I was very animated about it over the weekend. I thought I was one of the people. In the mob. Um No, I don't know.
I don't care as much as I did the other day, I guess. I got really worked up about it, but. I mean, I really cared Saturday. And Sunday. And Monday.
I don't care that much today. That's why I said thoughts from you guys or leaving me hanging here. I'm gonna leave you hanging. Hello. Yes, I don't have any thoughts on that, but it's a lot of times why if I have a good topic on like a Wednesday or a Thursday.
It's never happened once, but I'll text you guys and say. I'm really into this like now. How can we push this up? And then sometimes five days later, I still can refind it. And other times, it's like, yeah, shit, should have done it when it was.
Bubbling thought.
Well, w it's like when the Bucs started squad six. Yeah. And it was really cool. And I think like. The clippers are trying to do their wall.
Mm-hmm. There's different soccer stadiums that have supporter sections. Where you go and chant the whole time. There's one at Ford Madison when I would. Drive over to the Steve and do games.
Which was like three summers ago now, I think. Jesus. But then it just feels like It feels like if you ever go to the Bucks game and you're sick. Like you want it to happen. But then, if you go and you're sitting by them, you're like, oh shit, I'm by these guys.
Yeah. If you're across the arena, it's really fun. If you're. too close it's less fun Hop take Jakeson, OG. Squad sixer, isn't he?
Yeah, I think so. Yep. I think so. Yep. I got to do a Travel story with squad six to Indiana for a road squad six game against.
Roy Hibberts fan squad and like Two thousand. Eight?
Something like that. And then Had battling Roy Hibbert fan section versus Andrew Bogut fan section. How do you think Andrew Bogut did in that game? Six points. He was out with a migraine.
Oh, Andrew Bogut son or Roy Hibbert daughter. That sounds like an absolute nightmare of a. Mover. Ogit was out with the migraine. I think that overall, like, I have been very vocal.
About Yes. Come on. Yeah. Sorry. You don't need to finish the sentence.
I agree. About fan etiquette. And standing at games and putting shirts on and Taking shirts off and the like. And I'm trying to do a little bit of... reflection here as I am Six months non-employed.
And if I were to come make a roaring return someday at a Daily platform. What would be the things that I would take up as a cause? Not that this is Dave, but you know what I mean. Mm. If I'm doing it, I'm like, what would be the things?
And I just feel like. I feel like I need to put the fan policing behind me. Hmm. I don't feel like it's working. Yeah.
I don't feel like I'm making a difference. Um if anything, I feel like It's getting me trouble. I mean, I Try to, you know, etc. Cool. I just I think I've lost the war on this one, boys.
I uh It's look, I think you're right about things. I think Wisconsin sports crowds are reactionary. I don't think our crowds create the same home court or home field advantage as other crowds. It's also just such a losing issue for you and has been. forever.
Because Wisconsin sports fans don't want to be told this.
So I think it's noble that you feel strongly enough to push through that. to to to vote basically like as a to vote for something very unpopular I also think like it's tough. I'm sympathetic to the ushers. Like in the case of Tarpsoft, I don't know if the brewers had a policy. I don't know if they had a meeting.
I think this probably snuck up on them. And I'm sure there's liability and I'm sure the usher is like, well, we can't just. let everyone run roughshot up there. And I would imagine over the last 48 hours, they probably had a meeting about it and decided: okay, here's what we're going to do. You know what I mean?
So, I don't know. Like, ushers are like a lot of it's a fun part-time job for them, or someone makes some extra money. They love baseball, and it's just, I don't know. I think they're put in tough spots sometimes. And that one kind of came out of nowhere over the week.
I think one of the issues with the ushers, if I may. We need to put term limits on the ushers. Yeah, I think that they get in there. For a certain amount of time, and they're no longer working for the people. They no longer see themselves as one of the fans.
They see themselves as the authority. This is my section. I've been working it for years. Yeah. And then they lose sight of why they wanted to get into that role in the first place.
Similar to government. I mean, I'm just stumbling upon this, but I didn't see any parallels. When you put it like that. But I I've just had so many Negative. Experiences with ushers.
Where they've been the initiator. I'm telling you. Paul, do you buy that? The initiator part. I believe the part about him being having multiple issues with ushers.
Yeah. You do sometimes get ushers that it's happened where they're, you know, to your point, like it's my section. I'm going to run it the way I see fit. That's, I'm not saying that it's not a thing. Didn't you get like a yellow card from the Bucks years ago, or there was some story that you shared at one point?
Dreaming did. Chuck did that.
Now, that makes less sense because that's shocking. He's not the type.
Okay. Mm-hmm. He seems like someone who would shake an usher's hand and thank them for their service when he's leaving the arena. What did Chuck? What did that?
How is that possible? I don't remember, but I did was something stupid. That was like new Fiser Forum or something. I'm trying to recollect in my brain. But I don't know.
I don't know. I've never had a problem with. But I'm also the person who loves watching a loud crowd at home on TV. But it is never going to participate as an active member of one. It's just not.
the way I consume sports.
So I would probably be the one nearby. Being like, this is why I don't come to games. Like, this is why I watch. I'm a curmudgeon in that way. But yeah.
Will you pay for the suite to escape the jurisdiction of such figures? the crowd and the ushers themselves, which we've covered it. length before. I just feel like Wisconsin sports fans. And whenever even I say that, maybe I need to, maybe I just need to not finish this sentence.
I think what you need to do is you need to do this, is honestly a perfect. Chicago sports radio topic as the Milwaukee, Wisconsin radio host. Because it is clearly I shouldn't say clearly. I don't have like. 200 examples of first-hand experiences, but like it sure seems like that it is a unique Wisconsin experience.
And you are among that fan base in Wisconsin, and yet it's one of those like truth-teller things that. A rival audience would probably agree with and then really value the fact that someone's willing to say it from that market. It's different if it's like a Chicago sports guy in Chicago saying, those Milwaukee crowds are soft because then you're like, hey, You're not one of us. You can't say that. You're not one of us.
But the Wisconsin host saying it. outside of Wisconsin is Very truth-teller-y, right? Like we think very highly of ourselves. As sports fans in the state. Really?
And yet, time and time again. We do not answer the bell. I think Brewers fans least of all. I think there's certainly an arrogance with Packers fans. Yes.
And a lot of that is earned. I think Bucks fans have been priced out. Bucks fans have been priced out.
Well, I mean, like, again, like the 20. The Brandon Jennings Andrew Bogut led Bucs fan. is not the 2020 One Yana's era of 2018 to 2024. Bucks fan. Like If you were if you were paying You know, 60 bucks to sit at the top of the Bradley Center, top of the lower level of the Bradley Center.
Um Yeah, lower level. For like a big game. you know, to watch them to basically watch like the road team beat The box. Like that's I don't know that that to me is earned like Grant you said Packers fans have mostly earned it. Um Brewers fans, like you go into every season.
Wishy-washing, like, am I really gonna buy in? Like, it's a they're gonna blow on the playoffs, they're gonna face the Dodgers. And yet, like a bre I I think brewers fans have the most credibility. Because Packers fans to me it can be like You think you've earned it, and I don't know if you have. I think the best fans are usually the ones that support the thing that's.
Least likely to have like the positive outcome. You know what I mean?
Like you're rooting for the underdog, you're rooting for the thing that you love, despite. It constantly causes you. Stress. Um You know, you commit six and a half months and then you play the Dodgers and you're like, well, that was that. Um I don't know.
Because we get so hyped up for the tailgate. We're stuffing our bellies full of food and booze. By the time we get into the game, we're like... Ugh. Finally, I can sit down.
We spent all our energy in the parking lot. And then they get a subdued atmosphere. In the ball games. Also, I really need to get back to like, there should be designated sections where the old sit. That's the, isn't that just the middle one with the padded feet?
That's where they sit.
Well, they said everywhere.
Well, there is a family section, so I know it's a little bit different than what you're saying, but that still exists, right? the family section I know that's not exactly what you're referring to Um But yeah, if there was like a this is like the standing Section As opposed to having it be sprinkled sprinkled throughout. Like, yeah, I don't know.
So it's clear I have all these thoughts, and I can get you guys to disagree and agree to a certain extent, but not now, like, I can't. I don't feel like it's a winning battle to continue to do anything with these thoughts. Not on Twitter. This is, see, someone would listen to this and say, this is all very reasonable. All three people have different perspectives.
They're bringing good critiques or good, you know, this is fine. If you try to tweet this and you have to abbreviate it and you got to make it snarky because it's the internet, like that's not that's not going to work.
Well, I tweeted something today about uh the Knicks because and no one's seen this tweet, so you know. 'Cause I'm getting suppressed like everybody that bought a check mark. Um The last time the Knicks were in the finals, I kept seeing people say, Well, last time the Knicks were in the finals, we had dial-up internet. The last time the Knicks were in the finals, Gas was... We know.
The last time the Knicks were in the finals was 1999. Yeah. We talk about 1999 every fucking day of our lives. We don't need to do this with the Knicks, but just seeing it in print. I just don't think I play well on Twitter, even though I won an award.
You did win an award. I did win an award. Anyway, this doesn't need to be, you know, I have two therapists. I don't need you guys to be. three and four.
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All right. You got anything there, Paul? You guys wanna do NBA? NFL Or brewers.
Sorry. Quick pop culture. Is Star Wars was that movie fine? I loved it. Did it advance any plot?
That seems to be the nice standalone story. I don't think that's what people want though anymore. Did you see the take I saw?
Someone said the reason kids aren't getting in the Star Wars. is because It's something their dads like, just how we. Didn't understand why dads and grandpas like these fucking old ass Westerns. Oh, that's just a bad take. John Wayne's great.
But my dad liked him. Oh. That makes sense. Anyway, Paul. What were your three options?
Let's quick do the end.
Well, okay, NBA playoffs. Packers slash NFL and then Brewers.
Well, I think people tuned in for the NBA playoffs on this show. All right, let's do it. Not including this season. Over, under three and a half. On the number of times either the Oklahoma City Thunder or the San Antonio Spurs will win the West in the next five years.
The West will be won three and a half times over under by either the Thunder or the Spurs, not including this year. Of course, one of them will win it this year. The five next following seasons will be won over, under, three and a half by the Spurs or the Thunder.
So you you combine the two, it's like those two versus the field?
Okay, right, good question. Spurs, thunder versus the field, three and a half, the over-under. The answer is Over 3.5. Spurs or Thunder combining to win the West in the next five years. Or I say mm-hmm.
Uh The over is the correct answer. I say mm-hmm. What say or what she? Yeah. Wow.
Well done, Paul. Um well Luca's gotta win one here, doesn't he? Yeah. Does he know? Man, Luca's a much better idea than an actual...
Basketball thing these days. That'll catch up. We're so close on that, by the way. It might be this summer. Like James Hardin?
Yeah, someone or like Lamar, I think is a good like with Lamar, like we finally said, now wait a minute, like, but at what point, you know what I mean? Like, I think Luca and Lamar maybe is a good thing, and then suddenly, oh, wait, he's just never. gotten past this point. I mean, he was with the fi he was he was in the finals with Dallas before they Traded him for Anthony Davis. The instinct is to say under.
That's a lot. It's a lot. It shouldn't. It it it should be Under. It should be.
I just lose a season or two to injury. Yeah, I hesitate over that as well. Yes. And then someone else has to beat the thunder then. Even with a Wemby list season in the next five.
Well, I don't trust the nuggets. Mm-hmm. They're on the wrong side of it. Uh rockets aren't gonna do it. You know, if the Rockets do some like rumored Jalen Brown for Elperun Shangoon thing.
I mean, does the Jalen Brown, Kevin Durant? Aben Thompson. Fred Van Vliet, I mean, is that going to the finals over the where's Giannis going? Where's Giannis going?
Well, that's just it. I mean, like, what Giannis trade exists that flips this question from over to under? Does that team exist? If he goes to the Timberwolves in a deal that sends Gobert and Randall to a third team, and the Bucs get some picks. Does the Ant Giannis Jaden McDaniels T-Wolves Beat the Spurs or the Thunder in the next five years, once, twice.
Well, if they don't flip too. Mm-hmm. Yeah, right. Yeah. What's the timeline on that?
What have your league sources said, Barton? Wouldn would wouldn't that be during the the Seattle Vegas expansion theoretically, which probably wouldn't be for at least three years, right?
Well, then you're adding two expansion teams into the West. Until who'll get Trounced obviously in their I mean I gotta say under I can I can hear your case for over I just can't say. I just wouldn't be able to place that bet. Just make the case for, again, like. And again, I I think the smart play is under.
I just don't I have to think to myself like okay yes but I can contemplate and say I know that this team, if they make this move, or even they just get older. And they just get progress through the, you know, through the ranks. That team is going to clearly overtake one of these teams twice. If you get like, let's just say the Thunder and the Spurs. are the one in two seed next year, which probably won't happen because the regular season is just kind of whatever.
And you're a three-seed who has to first win the 3-2 matchup against San Antonio as the two. And then, after you went to battle with that, now you've got Oklahoma City as the one waiting on the other side. the attrition of that is going to destroy you. We've also crowned a lot of these kind of teams early, though. We do this a lot.
I'm comfortable because I get two powerhouse teams. Like, if it was one, if I said, like, Oklahoma City will win, like, You know, if you said two and a half, I might play two and a half easy. I think two and a half is easy.
So you think the next five years, the Thunder and Spurs. are going to two titles. NBA Finals? They need to win the West four out of five times.
So there's only one year. This is what we're saying, right? There's only one year where another team sneaks in. See, I. I want to say under because I think I'm with what Bart just said.
We do this way too often where a team wins the championship. It's like, and they're here to stay. But I I don't know that the Spurs and the Thunder will win Titles, championships. I mean, yeah, it's not even part of the part of the they're just so deep. And yeah, and injury.
Maybe the Spurs, not so much. Although, I think the Spurs supporting cast has looked really well. Um, so look, they're probably not winning a title without Wemby, but I don't know that they suck without him. If he misses time, if he misses a full year, that's different. But even if Shay goes down, like the rest of the Thunder's roster is really good, so that doesn't, you know, if he has to miss a month, that doesn't sink them.
They could win a playoff series without him. My struggle, Paul, is to just find the other team in the West that's.
Okay. burgeoning I want to find that team to make me say what I should say logically, which is under. Just Who is it and what do they have to do to get there? I mean, if the Jazz strike with the second overall pick, are the marketing Jaron Jackson. You know, De Banza.
Lead jab. That is a few years ago, you'd say, like. Lakers and Nuggets once you And then Wemby comes out from nowhere. Make these deal. I don't know.
I mean, I gotta stay under. It's just too much.
So just make a case. That's fine. Just make a case that the only case I can make is it's just too much.
Okay. It's just too high.
So like too many variables and unknowns for me to lock into that. What if here's a variable? The Thunder win again this year, and Adam Silver decides: fuck, we got to do something. I gotta, because that's what he does, right? Like, or the Thunder get a lottery pick, like, they get a really, really good pick, and Adam Silver says, No, I think Adam Silver, like, the Thunder are his crowning achievement.
So that's a good point. And I'm reaching here, but like that, I'm just trying to think of any possible variable there could be on the board. It's a team that he. Change the rules so that they did everything at the perfect time. Yeah.
Now, on a different topic, if I was doing a bardometer. I might do one Large market teams that don't feel large market. The LA Angels are on there, maybe number one. It's a great Martometer. But the Knicks are on there.
You don't think the Knicks seem something? The New York Knicks are going to be in the NBA Finals and. For the first time since 99. Yeah, I get. I just don't feel like.
Wow.
I don't know, it doesn't I don't know. They feel lunchtail, blue collar. Yeah, maybe it's that. Maybe it's a credit to them. Maybe it's that they've been bad for so long.
The James Dolan-owned Madison Square Garden home court. Celebrity row million-dollar seats for the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Small it doesn't feel as New York Knicks. It doesn't feel like New York Yankees.
No. It doesn't feel Dodgers. Do the Lakers feel large market to you? Yeah, I I mean the Jets feel like a larger team than the Knicks. What?
Now football. I mean, the Jets get the coverage. I mean, when Rogers was there, they did. But they sucked, right?
So they didn't even need to be good. They just needed to have a quarterback worth like. that people knew about. I did. But we just talked about it the other week.
The biggest Knicks thing of the last 25 years was Jeremy Lynn. No, the biggest Knicks thing of the past 27 years is currently happening, and it's Danhausen. Oh yeah, yeah. They like Danhausen was all over WWE. And then everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We got to cool it down a little bit on Danhausen. And then they have, they've limited him to two. Backstage segments the last two weeks on SmackDown. But he's on first take like every other fucking day now. It's like he's part of it.
He's part of this. Speaking of Danhausen is the guy who cursed the calves, right? Yes. Can I just say about the calves? Ah, cursed.
I've never witnessed a team. Win two seven-game series in the postseason and make a conference finals that is just less interesting. Than than this capital.
Well, they gave up that big lead in game one. Terrible. I just thank God they're out. I could not get excited and buy into a series that they were involved in. Which again is incredible because they went seven twice.
Yeah. But but and prob I mean Yeah. The talent is too great. Um for them to be as Pathetic as they were against the Knicks, and to even have gone seven in the early rounds, a lot of cases. What talent?
Really? Well, they're fine. You know what I mean?
If you, I mean, if you. NBA 2K simmed that Cavs roster against that Knicks roster. It shouldn't be a 4-0. Oh, I agree. James Harden said he thinks they're better.
They just didn't show it. They just didn't play like it. I saw that. Do you guys want? There's all these, I mean, in the past, there's plenty of Giannis trades happening.
And by the way, we talked last week about. Giannis hypothetical traits. We talked last week about where you don't want Giannis to go, but since then, you know, the Jalen Brown thing picked up steam, the Apollo Band Carol thing. We talked about the magic and how. Uh Yeah, the former Bucks GM and assistant GM run the show for The Magic.
So maybe there's a natural choice to. True, and like uh who was that that reported recently that Giannis and Kid are talking about a team up somewhere and Gary, probably. No, it was a it wasn't. It wa was it scoopy? Yanish is like a prime rib steak.
Every day you wake up, you want a prime rib steak. And you want the potatoes, and you want the sides, and you want a nice old-fashioned on the side. You eat the prime, you look forward to the prime rib steak every every weekend you get a big one on a Friday.
Some weekends you go out to dinner on Saturday, too. That's two prime rib steaks, and then you're looking forward to the next prime rib steak.
Well, then you start eating prime rib steaks on Sundays and Mondays and Tuesdays, and you have them for lunch, and all of a sudden, you're having 10 prime rib steaks a week. At some point, you lose all the flavor, and it's just not the same, and how special as it was. That's Giannis trade rumors. I can't fucking, I can't even, I can't even. You you saying the word Giannis like Makes my stomach turn over nuts.
Because you don't want to hear Giannis trade rumors, or because I've had enough. You just had enough Giannis. Bill Simmons has been doing podcasts with hypothetical Giannis trades for four goddamn years. It should, in theory, be interesting this summer to kick these around, but it's not because we've been doing them for so long. It was interesting for like two weeks, I'll say.
I'll disagree. I mean, but you guys know I really. Why am I seeing more of Giannis? In the flesh, in public. In May.
of a year we didn't make the playoffs. than the entire duration of the season. Where was he? Is he on the sideline tonight? No, where is he?
I don't know. I don't know. Where is he today? Oh, he's at the fucking zoo. Is that the zoo?
Oh, is that the fucking Tom's Drive-In? Always on some random fucking rich guy's Instagram thing I was just looking at before I got on here. I opened up Instagram, he's the first fucking thing I saw.
Now I won't get back to it, but I just like where was Mayanis when I wanted Mayanis?
Now I don't want Giannis, and now he's everywhere. All right, I will not then ask you the Cavs thing about: do you want Evan Mobley? I do not. I don't want anyone. I don't want anyone.
I think it's not Evan Mobley. I This is the real scenario that the Bucks are living in this offseason.
Son, son, it happened. They traded Giannis. Oh dad, pray tell. Did we get back Evan Mobley? Yeah.
No, son. Did we get back Paolo Banquero, Daddy? No, son. Did we at least get a Our pickback in 27 and another couple of swaps in 32, Daddy. No, my child, my sweet boy.
We did not. Who did we get? We got Fucking Yeah. Anthony Davis and Keyshawn George. Tyler Hero.
Hey, that honestly, that wizard's. scenario would be fantastic. I was excited to see the wizards be mentioned as a Bucks. Jana Souter.
Okay. You're the first person to use the words wizards and excited in the same sentence since John Wall played in the NBA. They have the first pick. They have Alex Sarr. They have good young talent.
Like, I'd be. If the wizards want to be able to do it. Yes, son. Kelly, I want an Alex Saw for Christmas. You should not downplay that, son.
He is a good young player. All right. I'm taking the over. I shouldn't, but I am. on the Spurs and the Thunder winning.
You are. Lock it in. Lock it in. Good. Good, good, good.
Hey, one team we didn't talk about. Let's not count out my Warriors. They're gonna win the West? Steve Kurzback.
Okay. Go on. Proceed. New topic, the Brewers. The Brewers?
Did we get Brandon Pajemski, daddy? The brewers Have becomes so good At winning trades. that it will impact their ability to make trades in the future. Mm-hmm. Or, in other words, you get the call from the Brewers.
It's the whole like mantra: you get the call from the Brewers and you hang up because you don't want to lose the trade. The Brewers have become that in Major League Baseball. Or I brought this up last week. Actually, a caller did. We talked about it.
Let's do it. But I also said, fear not, there's a lot of really stupid teams and cheap teams. There's a lot of stupid, dumb, cheap teams.
So the Red Sox aren't going to want to do, you know. Red Sox are probably out. But there's a lot of stupid, cheap teams in Major League Baseball to take advantage of. Yeah. Fertile ground, if you will, Paul.
So, but I still think they'll find opportunities. I don't think it's going to be a problem. Maybe one or two teams are like.
So I'll say mm-mm. Maybe one or two teams are like, nah, I mean, whatever. But everyone thinks that they're going to be the one to. You know, that's the thing. They're going to win the goal.
I know they lost that trade, but. They haven't dealt with old me yet. You know? But it could work for us. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
I think there was the one, Grant, what was the one that you said this offseason? Was the Brewers getting. I forgot I was going to start this episode as Bart Kreischer again. With the tarps off. I really save it for next week.
Keep in the back. It was the back of trade, which turned out to be like. You know. Maybe. I don't remember.
It might have always been like the Collins and Zerpo one. No, I had no problem with that. That one was fine. I guess I don't know. Look, Caleb Durbin would help this team right now.
Last year's version of Caleb Durbin would play almost every day for this team. Renifo's terrible. Paul, are you drinking two different sodas? Alternating. Coke and what was the other one?
Dew. Regular do? I went, yeah, I went without caffeine and I'm like, I've really missed you guys.
So. Why are you punishing your intestines like that? Making up for lost time. We went to the beer garden yesterday. And my wife's like, I just want a soda.
Give me a Coke. Or a Diet Coke. Honey, all they had was diapsi, so I didn't get you anything. She said good. Because it's worse than nothing.
Yeah. Your wife's a smart bet. Smart woman. Story's over. Pepsi's fucking awful.
I mean, it's just an awful product. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like rubber. And regular Mountain Dew is gross.
Whew. You've offended me greatly, sir.
Somebody, one of the soccer parents. On my birthday. Just did something really nice. Bought me a card with some lottery tickets. And then they see me drinking Mountain Dew all the time, but Mountain Dew Zero.
And they bought me a regular due. And I had to be like, it was a new pair of socks. I had to be like, oh, I love 260 empty calories. Yeah. Go ahead.
Coke Zero sucks. Die Coke is Coke Zero's gotten much too popular among people my age. All Coke Zero is the best. I was on a Coke Zero kick when I worked at WKBT. I would get a quick trip breakfast, Sammy, and a Coke Zero bottle every day.
I didn't know they made Coke Zero all the way back then. Also, bottles are terrible. A bottle of Diet Coke, which is my favorite drink, almost sucks. It doesn't fully, I'll still take it, but it almost sucks. I finished my soda before this.
I need to go get it. Is that okay? Sure.
Well, what's your next question? I'm so thirsty. That's all we had on Brewer. We can skip it if you want. Uh, we can pause there.
Yes, don't trade with the breweries. Yes, trade with the brewers. Take all their good pitchers, take all their good players. Hit him with the question, and then he can ponder it on his walk upstairs. Yeah, yeah.
This this question came on the heels of Some of the news last week with Rodgers, but the non-Packers NFL team you want to watch the most this season is the Steelers. Or mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-hmm. Oh, the non-Packers NFL team you want to watch the most, that you'll spend the most time with.
Next season is the Pittsburgh Steelers Grant Bills mm-hmm or mm-mm.
Well That's a good question. And I don't think I don't I don't think the Steelers are going to be very good. Or really, all that entertaining. I think they'll be fine, which is mostly what they were last year. Will they be conference entertaining?
Will they be like Tuesday afternoon entertaining? But that's the thing. I just remembered now that McCarthy's there. Right.
So, if it was the same team as last year, I'd say no. I wouldn't know who the other team is. I guess I could think about it. Um But I I guess just because of the McCarthy thing. Yeah.
I think it has to be. What else comes close? Rogers and McCarthy together. The fact that Rogers has Officially said juice is so good. This is, you know, he's on his John Cena retirement tour.
Aaron Rodgers is. He's announcing it ahead of time. Um maybe he has a heel turn in him. I don't know. Maybe he's already played that card for some.
But like I don't even know why like as a Packers fan You wouldn't cheer for this Steelers team. Like, unless you really don't like Rodgers, you really don't like McCarthy. It's the Rogers-McCarthy reunion in the opposite conference. Like, there's really no against the team they beat in the Super Bowl. Right.
Which I think is lost in it all, by the way. Yeah. It doesn't really come up all that much, which, by the way, should have Packers fans pissed. That's how long ago it was. You know what I mean?
Like, what if this year we were starting Ben Roethlisberger with Mike Tomlin as our head coach? Yeah. That would fucking do, that'd be terrible. It would just be it'd be strange, right? I mean, if you're being a Steelers fan.
In 2010. And being like, see those guys that just beat you 16 years from now. They'll be on your sideline. But wouldn't Rogers then be 42? Wouldn't McCarthy then be Buga?
Yeah. And that's who's going to lead your squad. And McCarthy will have a very forgettable stopover in Dallas. Aww, that's harsh. What?
I mean, yes, it is. He's not going to remember. He's going to have this Pittsburgh job for a decade. Does history remember Jason Garrett? Or Wade Phillips.
He is going to have this Pittsburgh job for a while, which is the sneaky, interesting part between him and Rogers. Like, if they get Caddy, Beforehand, Rogers was like, What are you going to do? I'm going to be here longer than you.
Now, McCarthy's like, Look, you can have your cute retirement tour, but this is the job I can have. McCarthy's doing this as a lark. Mm-hmm. He's doing this for shits. He's like.
Well, while I get my bearings straight at my new job, I might as well have my old co-worker here with me. Yep. That I can instantly turn on the second I need to. I was doing something very Bart the other day. I was going through my old high school yearbook.
Roboy. And I saw a lot of funny notes from different people in my life. And I what I noticed was There's like old girlfriends that wrote me very impassioned things. And the word love, you know, it's like, and now it's like, that like didn't even happen. Like that life didn't even happen.
It's so weird. But then there's other guys, like guy friends that I have notes from, and I haven't seen them for like.
However, many years, and then I'll take a picture and I'll just shoot him a text. I'll be like, and we're all laughing and stuff. The point is That some relationships that you have Get lost to the wind. Like it never happened. And then if you were to see these people again.
I don't even know that I would like w would I even f You go With you go a certain amount of time without seeing someone or interacting with them, and you see them again, and you talk, and you're friendly, but. You don't know this person. You d you don't you like I you can't even imagine that you ever Had any sort of relationship with them, much less a serious one. But then there's some people that you don't see for eight years. And then the minute you see them again, it's right back to how it was the minute you left.
And so with seeing McCarthy and Rogers on the sideline together again. That's how I feel. That's how I feel. Even though, you know, separately, I still liked McCarthy and I advocated for him to come back. I did.
Rogers has been grinding me for years. But seeing them together, man. Seeing them together. Yeah. The Steelers.
Just I'm gonna I'm gonna hold myself here. I won't say it. Never mind. I might root for them more than I root for the Packers. No, I hate Matt LaFleur.
I hate him. I fucking hate him. I fucking hate him. I just hate him. And I hate everyone that doesn't hate him.
I don't want the Packers to win the Super Bowl.
Okay. Why? Because I don't want to be wrong. Oh, okay.
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Somehow. got the extension that he got. was like at least now Again, there's no No level of bad season the Packers could have. With the fluorett coach, that's going to result in him not coaching. The 2027 Packers.
I really hope that's not true, but within reason, I agree. They're not going to eat four years on a contract. Is this?
Well, Bart would say, no, I was going to say, is this Title Town or not? And Bart would chime in. It was. Yeah, that's.
Okay. They're not eating four years. They're not eating three years. Again, my opinion, the Packers are too talented to go. 5 and 12 the next two years, no matter how.
Whatever their coach is, good, bad, terrible, whatever you are. They're not, they're too talented to go 5 and 12 twice. But I think that that's what would have to happen. In two consecutive years.
So, Bart, I think what you should allow yourself is this idea that, like, If there was a I don't feel the way I'm about to say it, but like, if there was an upside to blowing a 21-3 against the Bears, it's that there's a likelihood. I would have thought that that means, okay, but you get a new coach to take his version of this team, and da da da, but then you give him the extension. It's like, now you might as well just say, You know, all right, like fucking fine.
Well, Ed Policy is taking over this team. And he's coming in. And what do most new bosses do when they take over? They fire someone. Right.
They put their stamp on it. Put their stamp on it, but then like they fire other people. Sure.
I mean, we got a new boss, and he targeted Freemes from day fucking one. Oh, geez. You know? So you want to fire, you want to, Ed Policy comes in. He's got a coach who's a lame duck to be.
Yeah. Who just blew a massive loss. Who had a five-game losing streak? This is Ed Policy's chance to say. We're going to get back to being Title Town.
Clear rally of support. Everyone's with you. You can re-put a stamp on the organization. And yet he likes to acquiesced to LaFleur as if LaFleur. is running this team.
Somehow. So, yeah, I have problems with LaFleur, obviously. I I talked about it. But for Ed policy in this position. I don't know that any other person Takes over and doesn't make that change.
And if you're not making the change then. When are you making the change? I mean, some of the, so we talked about it then, too.
Some of the most I don't want to say safe. Not safe, but some of the most like traditional columnists. Who don't feel like their opinion is the story. Sure.
Right? They just want to report the facts. Mm-hmm. Even they were like.
Okay. They did. They went out on that. Yeah. They did.
Spoon said so. Yeah. So if you're not going to fly in Silverstein, yeah. If you're not firing him then, like... There's no way LaFleur is not the coach in 27, not the coach in 28, not this.
He is going to, he. I think he gets at, I mean, again, I think he's allowed like two disastrous seasons, which I don't think will happen. They're too talented to have disastrous seasons, much less two of them. I think he's he I think he has to have Two of the next three have to be just. The pits with a healthy roster for LaFleur, not to be back in 28, which is, you know, but I.
The idea, and I think the thing that some people would be listening to this who are Neutrala floor, if not prolaflor, would say, is like Ed policy wanted to allow Matlou, Florida, see this era. through. With Tucker Kraft, with Matthew Golden getting these, being the top targets for Jordan Love, that he brought in Jordan Love and took him from backup to starter and took him to be. Whatever we think he is, a top 10, top 12 QB in the NFL, top eight, maybe part.
Well, Adam Shines. LeFleur see this Through. How did we get away from that? If only Joe Lacob had let Mark Jackson see it through. You know what I mean?
Like, okay, Matt LaFleur gets to see it through for better or worse. And I'm not nearly as anti-LaFleur as you guys, but like, if Ed Policy came out and said, I wanted to give Matt LaFleur a chance to drink.
Now it's water now. Do you piss during this podcast? No, I've no. But again, I've been I've been like fasting and doing things.
So this I'm like, okay, now I'm Catching up. Why do you look sweaty? You always look sweaty. Your hair always looks sweaty. Did you just get out of the shower?
Mm-hmm. Um Where were we?
Okay, so We always know where you're going to show it. Um So I think, Grant, you immediately said the non-Packers NFL team that you want to follow, watch the most this season is the Steelers. Or you said, I think you said mm-hmm. I think, mm-hmm. But I forgot about the Dolphins.
I am also interested to see what happens there because the longer this offseason goes, I think they're going to suck shit. Oh yeah, I I I don't I don't but not in like a Get them now while you can, type of way. More in like a holy shit. Which team plays the most on Sundays? Because I want to root for a traditional Sunday 1 p.m.
team. That'll be stolen. Good. And I'm with you. Because I, you know, they are taking Sundays away from us.
But if the Dolphins are two and seven, which they will be. Are you really going to watch week 11 dolphins?
Well, maybe not, but I'll watch the Jeff Hafley press conferences. That's where he does his best fucking work.
So I will be seated Sunday nights to go back on YouTube and watch his press conferences. How many do we do we have the official? I mean, you could create it, but like, how many. Non-Sunday afternoon games that the Packers have. Seven, six?
How many non-Sunday afternoon If seven, six, you gotta go the other way. Seven, six. How many? They have to have at least six. Or seven.
Non-Sunday afternoon games, right?
Sounds right. It was a lot. It was a lot. A lot. Too many.
Too many. Um Okay, so Bart and your answer was so your answer's the Dolphins or the Steelers, one or the other? A stealer, so yeah.
Okay. And then, of course, I always am not a fan of and I don't like them, but I do enjoy watching the Cowboys. Yeah. Fair enough. My second part B to that is: you believe Aaron Rodgers when he says after this season, you really won't hear from him.
He will not have a public life. You believe that Rogers will. Play this season and go away. You believe that. As a fellow 42 year old man.
Who is trying to figure out what exactly to do next in his life. I don't think you can take anything Rogers says. At any value until it actually happens. Like I could tell you right now. Guys, I'm gonna be...
I'm going to be respectful on Twitter for the next three weeks. Yeah. So, if Roger says I'm going to disappear, okay. I believe you think you are going to disappear. Sure.
But I also think that You're still hanging on because you don't know what to do next. Sure.
And you're going to think not having to play. every single day is cool. And you'll get some stuff done around the house and clean the basement and be a great dad and coach soccer. Husband. You're going to get.
Oh, I see what you're doing. You're going to get pretty. You're going to wonder. You're going to wake up some days, and all you want to do is go right back to bed because you don't even know why you're fucking. Why are you even awake?
Hypothetically, of course. Hypothetically. It's a hypothetical game. Uh mm-hmm. I believe him in that he won't like join a network, although I'd like him to.
Like, if he, if he signed with CBS and was on their pregame show, I'd watch the shit out of that. Yeah. I think he'd be great and would add a real. Celebrity. Uh like it's a real draw.
So, I believe him that he won't do that. I kind of hope we see him like pop it up on podcasts and. Like, but maybe he'll start a business or, you know, I. I feel like we'll see him, but it's not going to be like. Oh, it's going to be worse now that he's done playing.
We're going to hear from him everywhere. No, I don't think that's going to be the case. I would like it. I mean, Rogers is. I'm trying to think of if you were to do a bardometer to go back to that.
Unlike the Eight. athletes who are the most non-scripted Like they're going to say the thing they feel regardless of the implications. They have an interesting way of delivering Thoughts and commentary. Um He's obviously on that list. Who are like the other like non-robot?
Pro athletes. Who are the other ones where it's like, you know, you're going to get interesting. Thoughtful commentary, regardless of maybe you agree with it, maybe you disagree with it, but you're like, oh, this is something I want to hear.
Well, you start naming like Draymond, but. Nobody likes him.
Well, I think Rogers, but nobody likes him. Yeah, there's a theme there. But maybe that's what I think guys that are like made in a factory like JJ Watt tweeting during the finale of The Voice. or some shit and I mean, he is the Jimmy Fallon of sports, is what he is. Oh, what an incredible analogy.
Thank you. And one I wholeheartedly endorse. Anthony Edwards is an interesting guy. You don't know what he's going to say, it's going to be something strange. Chaotic good, though, I feel like most of the time.
Like, I don't think he speaks out of. Turner out of pocket to be a dick. I think sometimes it's very honest, and for the most part, people like it. Right.
Like, even like when, what was that Adam Sandler basketball movie from a few years ago, and Anthony Edwards had a little cameo, and afterwards. A lot of the Chatter around the story part. A lot of the chatter around the movie was. Like Anthony Edwards is a star, like beyond basketball, he's just an interesting commentator of. Thoughts.
Who else is on that list, chat? Drop it below in the comments. That's right. There's gotta be, there's gotta be obvious ones we're missing. Dalton rushing, asshole.
Hate that guy. I don't know who that is. He plays through the Dodgers. Oh yeah. Doesn't even wear like seventy eight or something.
No idea. Is there anybody? I was trying to think of baseball. Who the fuck is baseball? No one talks.
Who's the like? I was like, who's the last brewer where you're like? The only personality I've seen from any baseball player, other than a brewer, this last three months is. Bryce Harper brushing his teeth by putting the toothpaste in his mouth first. Vada was kind of weird.
Well, like Niger Morgan, fantastic, right? Like. Fantastic interview, fantastic baseball personality. Brandon Phillips. Brett Phillips.
Brett Phillips. Brett Phillips. Sorry. Brett Phillips. I was combining two guys.
Not Jade Cargill's husband. That's Brandon Phillips. I was in a locker room with him once. He said, He said some shit, man. I don't even out of respect to the locker room.
I will not repeat what he said here. Wilson Contreras, he fires from the hip. Does he? I mean, look, there's a thin line between that guy's an asshole and that guy speaks his mind. Like, you know.
Well, I'm saying non-robot. I'm saying like it's just going to be authentic commentary. Like. The media relations person's not going. The media relations person needs to be nearby when this person talks.
Like, that guy, who's that guy? Um I can't really think of a lot off the top of the dome. I wasn't prepared for this. I didn't know you were going to do this. You didn't tell us, you didn't tell us we were doing this, Paul.
Sorry, Rosillos.
Sorry, guys.
Well, we can think about it over the week. I have to poop incredibly bad. I do too. That's funny. I have to go get a drink, a beverage.
I have not had a different one for a while here. Yeah, you go do that. Uh I am going to think of more, and then I'll just think of them at midnight. I'll wake up and be like, oh, I forgot to mention this guy. The J.J.
Watt Fallon comparison was really good. Really good. Please clip that and share that widely. Maybe it'll make Fallon's meme tweets segment. Is that a thing that he does?
No, the problem is Fallon would see that and be like, this Bart guy's a sweetheart. Thank you so much for comparing me to J.J. Watt. That's. The problem.
He'd have you on to do a kazoo battle. He would think that it was a compliment. For whatever. Oh, it's so great.
So great.
So great.
So great.
You're so funny. You're so funny. So, you know what's fascinating to me, just real quick, and then you guys can boop. Like, there are people who apparently. who genuinely like Like Jimmy Fallon.
No, that's not. Not tolerate, but like there must be people who Jimmy Fallon had a nice career. And I really liked them. And then he decided to be the human version of... NBC He's a brand.
Jimmy Fallon is a brand. A fucking terrible brand.
Well, he's a brand. He is. He is what people The people that are like, I don't like politics on my late night shows. They think they want Jimmy Fallon. They don't.
People there must be someone who's like I gotta see the new Fallon. They must, does it really, is this like... When he was on late night, I watched like every episode. I thought he was great. He's never been good.
That was a you problem. I saw this coming. He was good on weekend update. He was good in. The very underrated.
Fever pits. Fever pits. Yeah. Grant, have you seen these flicks? Not familiar.
Taxi, I did not see taxi. Queen Latifah, Jimmy Fallon, taxi. Was he the taxi driver? Where was she? I don't.
I've seen it a couple of times. It's been 15 years since I've seen it, but I don't remember. I'm poking out. I gotta go. Hmm.
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