The Bucks season is over

Good evening, everybody. Welcome into the Winklerverse. This will serve as our Thursday show for. March 4th, as we come live to you on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. Have you guys called Dan Shaney yet?

Can we call Dan Shaney? And get on that insurance plan, San Shaney. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um Bucks lost.

So that is the story and that is the headline. Actually, the headline. The headline, I'm being, I wouldn't say I'm being a troll. But I am trying it's a little SRO, little search. Or SEO search engine optimization here.

Um I uh What you see in Doc Rivers is what I see in Matt LaFleur.

So you see a guy who is never going to get anything figured out, and they're never going to win with him. That is what I see in Matt LaFleur. And I'm done saying his name now, but that is what I also see in Doc Rivers. That's what everyone sees. In Dock Rivers.

I got hyped up for this game. I got hyped for this game. And maybe um Maybe one of you got hyped up with me. But this is a game that they're four games back. To this very team, the Atlanta Hawks, 131, 113, the final.

The um, oh, by the way, the Panthers lost the Milwaukee Panthers season. is over. Disappointing season for them as well. And uh the Badgers beat Maryland. But Isaac Gard hit a deep three, and that was a poignant moment with his dad.

And it gave me, it hit me right in the feels. It's giving cats in the cradle. Why do we talk the way we do? Why can't we why why does why does language need to evolve? Why can't we just Why can't we just It's giving.

The Bucks lost because of the dark rivers of it all. Come on. Hey, shout out to Matt Winkler versus so underrated. Let's blow this thing up. Different graphics on the Dan Shaney YouTube.

I don't know why. I don't know how. I I'm so stupid. Jake says dumbest season ever. Jason says they were quick to fire butt and griff.

How does Doc still have a job?

Well, Laurie Nicoll wrote that column today in the Journal Sentinel and kind of echoed. What I've been talking about is She said, don't ask why he hasn't been fired. Ask why he's still here. And I compared him to a contestant on the show Traders. Where You gotta figure out, like, why am I still in this game?

You get murdered anonymously. But people keep you around. It's a great reality show gambit where you want to keep bigger threats around. to keep the smoke off of you. You also want to.

Keep people that you find Good companions, and that will have your back, good allies. Uh for you. And so that's why you keep them around. With the sentiment that Laurie's giving, it's. Why is he still here?

And it's got to be an ownership thing. And Jerry, I know that I know that. Haslam. Is not uh The governor, but you understand he's got a say in what is happening. Like he might not be the one that actually files the paperwork with the NBA.

But he is a big time investor into this team. His his opinions will get heard. His opinions Uh we'll have I say.

So I got hyped for this game. I talked to Justin Garcia. And I posted that and I said it's very time sensitive. Because I wanted it to be a lead up. I hope you got hyped for it.

If you didn't, it's still not that time-sensitive. We talk about tanking, I still want to see the team try to win. I would like to. This isn't like the NFL where Lovey Smith is trying to get a team. One last win that doesn't matter, or the New York Giants.

Always play well in December after they're already eliminated from the postseason, and then it screws them out of a better draft pick. We need good. Here's another one. Good vibes. We need good vibes.

Going into the offseason. We need good vibes going into a possible extension. We need good vibes. Going into next season. I was watching some of the ESPN coverage and then I switched over.

Uh to whatever we're calling Our local Channel. Later and some of the ESPN stuff. They were they had talked to Giannis earlier in the day, and he said, Look, the Warriors had that year. There's teams that have, they've made the playoffs nine straight seasons. They've made the playoffs nine straight seasons.

And so this is a little uncommon now for us. I know with Bucks fans, like We just, I mean, we got to be lucky we got one, man. We, I mean, this is just, this is just, we've been cursed. And if that was the bargain, like, I would have signed up for it. And I think a lot of you had.

But I think what is the I was gonna say what is the botherment? What is bothersome About this is how it's happening. Look, if Giannis is hurt and the team's just not good enough. What what can you do? What can you do?

There was a lineup. That The internet was Beside itself. Jericho Sims, Bobby Portis. Pete Nance, Kyle Kuzma and Cam Thomas. was a lineup.

Together. On the court at the same time. For six plus minutes. It did not fare well. That line have got ridiculed by many.

Doc didn't see it. Doc went right back to it. In the second half, I'm telling you guys, I got so hyped for this game. I got so hyped for this game. This was the most I have watched a game.

Without a second screen. In years.

So yeah, I watch a lot of these games. But you know, you're on your phone a little bit, or I'm on my computer doing work while I have the game on. Um I'm just checking here to see that somehow I landed out of the money in DraftKings. I didn't play Ryan Rollins. I think he doesn't shoot as much with Giannis on the court, but he had a bunch of assists.

God, I got to get off there. I have. Basically, I've Jesus. I see being unemployed or whatever. Um, I did factor winning on DraftKings to be a part of the equation.

You can't do that. And also, I thought I'd win at Pato, and I didn't, and you can't do that either.

So, we may be taking a gambling sabbatical. Man. Ma'am. I'll get the link up in just a second. What other thoughts do I have to make sure are said?

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Promo code is BART. 25% off each and every order at happyplacehemp.com. I would have had. I didn't have one yet. I'm going to have a gummy before bed.

I would have had a seltzer, but I was already falling asleep at like eight thirty.

Now I was hyped for the game. But I was high. I was I was I was struggling to stay up. Like, I was hyped for the situation. But struggling to stay up.

And then the first half. They were playing well. And Giannis looked refresh. You know, it looked like we could really do something. I was already thinking of the things that I would say.

They entered the first quarter up 13. Hawks had a big second quarter and then the Bucks scored like two points. In the first half of the third quarter, and they were never going to come back. From that, Hawks might be a team. That Could be interesting.

Hawks might be a team that could be interesting. They've got a lot of guys that they traded for, like CJ McCollum. Kaminga, who didn't play tonight. But just their roster is full of guys that Are getting second chances here and you know, can maybe play together the Corey Kisperts of the world. Gabe Vincent.

Didn't play much, I don't think. I don't know what they're going to do, but there's going to be worse teams. There's going to be worse teams that have been in the play-in. situation than the uh atlanta hawks And again, the book is not over on the Milwaukee Bucks, but my friends. I mean, it is.

So they're 26 and 35. They're 26 and 35. They're five games back of both the Hornets and the Hawks. Last week we got a little excited. Since then, the Bucs have lost four in a row.

Well, the Hawks have won five in a row. And the Hornets have won six in a row.

So we have created and they have taken advantage of that gap. Every team that's not in the playoff, by the way, or the play-in. is on a losing streak. Bucs on a four game, Bulls on one. Wizards six, Nets nine, Pacers six, even in the West.

Grizzlies, Pelicans, Kings, all two-game streaks. Mav's a four-game losing streak in the jazz. A seven-game losing streak. That's another reason why I'm not into the tanking. is because Okay.

These other teams are going to out tank us. And it's pretty much um Impossible. Yeah, this was the night. This was the night. That's why I got hyped for it.

This was the night. I am going to. Follow these games, I suppose. Um Yeah.

So they got they got Utah this weekend.

Okay, they got a couple of days off. Let's take a couple of days off. They got Utah this weekend. They got Utah this weekend on Saturday. Then they got Orlando.

On Sunday night. Am I doing anything Sunday night? I could pop out of Sunday night. This is the Thursday pod. I d don't think I'm going to have a Friday one because we've been doing so much bucks.

Ah. Fuck, maybe. God, I don't know. All right, Q is uh joining the proceedings. What's up?

Along with uh banana. Banana. What's up? Wait, Bart, did you just say today Thursday pot? Today's Wednesday, dude.

I know, but this is acting as the Thursday.

Okay, okay, okay. I get you now. I get you. And he's getting ready because most people. That are going to listen to this.

It's Thursday. Only sick fucks like you guys. And everybody else in the comments, can I just give some comments, shout-outs first? Sure. Let's shout out everyone who's here.

Shout it out, Jake. I shouted out, Matt. I shout out Jason. Jake says, Dr. Cavorkian.

Richard says, turn out the lights. Party is over. Uh A L O L says let ham cook. There was a point I saw Giannis talking it up with him. I thought, Hmm.

Matt Batt did not like Kuzma laughing and joking around at the end of the game. Oh, Freeze done an hour on that tomorrow. Bucky says we are terrible. Yeah. Mark's on my pod with Justin.

Jake, Ben, is this what we want with the Packers? Oof. I'll look at this. Ben, that's, I mean, that's going right into DraftKings tomorrow. And then when I win that, I'll put it back into the Winklerverse.

Nice. Shells, here lies the Milwaukee Bucks. Hold on. Jake says, I don't know a single person that regrets quitting drinking. And Q says, I regret quitting drinking.

When I did you remember that year when I quit? You regret that? I regret it. My, I started drinking again, life completely turned around.

So I'm not joking, and I haven't been drinking tonight, but I also said, Jake. I really appreciate your sobriety. But it's a bad look trying to push it on everybody else. Just enjoy your life, man. Stop judging us.

I don't think he was. I think he was. I don't think he was. I think he was. I mean, I've heard his little.

Up on the stumps pitch for a few years now. And whenever he does it, I think it's like 10% trying to help people because of Jake. Is that part of it? No, I'm saying when Jake does that, it's 10% to help people and 90% looking down on us through his nose.

So, Jake, congratulations on your sobriety. I'm so glad it's working out for you. If I know one thing about banana. It's that when he quits drinking, it will be because of time of death. Brian says college basketball is so much better.

I think Michigan can run this team. Off the floor, Iron Man Clan TV. I feel the same way about LaFleur Doc and Luke Fickle, yet they all have jobs. Kevin says it's over. Matt says, in the Stenny's bus, morale is not good.

Yeah. Now we need to see her face. User Z V6 GP1ZI3S says me. Is that a bot? I don't know what the fuck that is.

That's like a 90s bot. Yeah. It's bad. And Ben joins the proceedings. Hey, Ben, guys.

Hey, Ben the entry fee, Ben. Oh yeah. You're welcome. Can I quick explain what I meant by the Packers? Yeah.

We talk about selling house, you're going all in to win that chip. But then, this is the result. This is what we've lived with.

So, do you want the Packers' mediocrity? Yes. No, I want the championship. 100%. Just stop.

Bart and I both won a championship. Just stop. So, this is okay that we're okay with it. This is absolutely okay. All right.

All right. I'm okay with it. I think it's the best night of my life. outside of the birth of my child, Was when we won this championship. And I was alive for both Packers' championships.

This just seemed like it would never happen. The only thing that could ever eclipse this championship in 2021 would be the Brewers ever winning one. Like, that is literally the only sports moment that could ever eclipse it. And they can't take that away. And I'm so grateful they tried to do it again with Dame.

And I'm so grateful they did whatever Kakamimi plan gave us another shot this year. Like, I don't care. We've got Giannis.

Well, we've got Giannis. Keep going all in. And on the dock point, this roster is garbage. It's complete trash. Like, The fact that anyone thinks it could be Doc's fault is like fine, but like, it like it's just a bad team, and it doesn't matter who's coaching it.

Like, maybe it'd be a five-game difference. But I don't care. Like, I just don't think. Gets you to a crappy playing season. That's why I pause for a second there, Hugh.

I agree in that sense, but that said. Doc has now had close to two and a half years of putrid mediocrity. He would be a perfect herbic. If there was such a thing. In the sense of Herb Cole ever hired a championship-winning coach, not a single here.

Doc River. And I don't think Herb Cole paid like. A cent over the average. for a coach ever. You're missing the point, Q.

If Doc Rivers would have had multiple championships given his rosters in Boston, so would Matt Flores every stop along the way? There is no way in heck that he's anywhere near. That's good of a coach. If you look at his winning rep his win-loss record, he is basically. Did he choke the Donald Sterling year?

Did you watch that documentary? Hold on. We're not nickpicking every Doc Rivers year. I mean, he weird people. I talked one second.

Oops. The first question Ben asked. Are you saying that this is okay because we had a title that we just have to deal with this? Is that what you're asking? I think so.

I I mean, if we want another one or Karma, this is what we get. Like, we can't expect to have titles every year. No.

So we gotta we gotta deal with this. Right. And so overall, big picture. I think I agree with that. I think, yeah.

Yeah, I'm okay with the 21 title, and knowing that. I just talked to a counselor about it, that I would, yeah, I want titles. I want titles. You remember? See, we think about.

We think about it in the moment. You know what I've been doing lately? Yeah, I've been doing. Reflecting. Just like what?

Reflecting. Well, when I like. When I do the most mundane shit in the world. When I do the most mundane shit in the world, I think to myself. Hold on.

What the fuck is this? Do we want to listen to Doc? Here. Oh my gosh. Hey, Tim.

The team hasn't really responded to this. Is this allowed? Is this allowed in most games? Yeah. That's kind of what I got Doc Rivers for you.

Well, that's what everybody is. When did you become a best guy? Oh wait. Art loots. Tonight, huge vest, guys.

Don't let anybody steer you out of that, Timmy. Vests are the best. Call me after your job. I've caught you, and I'm done. Take it by the doc.

They kept playing.

Well, that's weird, Tim. I also have Doc Rivers right here.

So My point on Doc is like, he, I'm not saying he's a good coach, I'm just saying, like. There's like way too much blame that's placed on him for this, like, just not good team. Absolutely. Two things can be true. Doc can suck and horse can be uh on the uh way of He's just making bad move after bad move holistically.

Two things can be true here. I think Course is trying to save a rocky marriage by any means possible. I want to get to Ben's question quick. And I want to get to Ben's question quick. Yeah, let's get to Ben's question.

Sorry, Benathan. One thing that I'm trying to do a better job of. Oh, shout out, Brother BKL Sporter Entertainment Show. Happy World Baseball Classic Day. I turned it on for a little bit.

What happened? Australia's playing. Taiwan, right now, except we're not allowed to call it Taiwan, I guess. It's Chinese. Taipei?

Yeah. What's that about? I don't know. All right. That's not.

Well, maybe it is. I don't know. I don't know where the show's going to be. Can I give you a little more on the question, though? Yes, please.

Yeah. Maybe, okay, so we know the answer to the initial question. But moving forward, when is it acceptable to have expectations again?

Well, I think we can have expectations. I do. I think we can have expectations. I think we can also be Well, we can be bummed. We can be grateful.

Okay, so the thing before Tim showed us his vest. Was I think to myself in the most mundane moments lately, like.

So Is this a moment you're going to ever remember in your life? like what right now like right now i'm just out for a walk are you gonna remember this Are you gonna remember folding this laundry? Are you gonna remember being on this walker? Is it all gonna blend together? And the memories, you know, they all merge into one, and you choose and keep what you can.

And when you're on your deathbed, when you're on your deathbed. I'm not going to be thinking about this night. I mean, when you think about it, we're all just stardust after all. Right. I'm going to be thinking about the championship win.

And I'm going to do Ronnie shirtless. My time as the Bucs fan was worth it. For that moment and what that did, so I also don't think though. That we can I We talk about the Packers and we talk about the Brewers and we talk about the Bucks. And I know I made the.

Doc and LaFleur comparison, but I don't think that these teams sometimes we look at them as equals, but they're not. They're in different landscapes, they're in different leagues, they're different sports, and they're also, they have different capabilities. of what they can do and they have different histories and they have different futures.

So yes, Ben, if you want to ex Bound on that. I have a comment on that.

Well, let's have Ben talk first. We're all over each other's dicks. Come on. Come on. I asked Ben.

Ben asked a question. I just have a response. I need Ben to reframe his question as per his wishes.

Okay. The initial question was. If this is what we want. with the packers then we have to be okay with Yeah. what's happening now.

Or that's that was what we came to agreement on. And and connecting those two dots. There's a better chance. Today. That the Micah Parsons trade.

was a complete failure even though it was the right decision to make Well, yeah, based on the Dame situation, I would agree. And it's because the same thing could happen. It's a hell of a lot closer to Damien Lillard. than it is to trading for for Drew Holiday. The Parsons trade already exceeded the Dame trade and lapped it like seven times.

But Dame did not win us a championship. The trade for Drew Holiday did. But the dame trade was for a piece that never fit in from day one. You're talking someone who played me ball. I mean, Bart, you saw someone.

I would 100% do the Micah Parsons trade every single day. It's what I've been begging the Packers to do my entire life. And I would say that the Damian Lillard trade was the same thing. I would do it again in a heartbeat. The Damian Lilletrade was amazing.

I wanted that. For years. Like as a Bucs fan, there was not a single player I wanted more to go and be good with Giannis, and it didn't. work and I am Whose fault is that? I think it's Janice's fault.

The dame trade? No, that it didn't work. I think it was actually uh Like the divorce. Yeah, I think it might have been life. Like, honestly.

I feel bad for the guy. I can't imagine. Like, yeah. Has anyone else here been through divorce? Me.

It fucking sucks. Today was my one-year divorce anniversary, guys. Congratulations. Yes. It fucking sucks.

It rocks your entire existence. The biggest mistake, the miscalculation of that trade was that it was in the midst of his divorce. I think the miscalculation also cue was the fact that Giannis and Dane were both extremely high-usage players. If you look at their remake, this never happens. Yes, we made Barty blush.

I barely even talked tonight. I don't know what you guys are fucking even discussing. But yeah, they're both high-usage players to the point where how are they going to be able to coexist to this in this offense? And the reality is that. Dame gave a little.

Giannis really didn't give much if you look at their usage percentages together. Mm. Yeah. But The point is that you're taking the ball away from other players who can actually do things. And one of the reasons why the Bucs were so successful for all those years, all the way until Bud got fired, was because it was Giannis and a bunch of people that they could figure out.

Basically, spread the ball around and Going off of that. When you have the ball basically going into two black holes offensively, it's. Not ideal. It's no one's show anymore. It's no one's show.

Jake says Bart has given up on this episode like the Bucks have on the season. No, no, no. Yes. The episode, we're a little. You guys are just all talking at the same fucking time.

Yeah. And by you guys, I mean Q.

Okay. I haven't talked for the last three minutes. All right, I got to say something about Doc. Mm-hmm.

Okay. I gotta say somewhat dark. You guys R. Oh, let me give a shout out to Don. Sitting in my car listening to Bart Winkler show on my radio again via Bluetooth, but who gives a fuck?

It's a good time. of the national show. Thank you, Don. Appreciate you. Robert wants to hear more about Taiwan.

Okay. I might I'm gonna I I hold on. I am gonna I'm working on a Sports and Politics episode. I am. I have not fallen into that one, Bart.

You're gonna get like triple canceled?

Well, no, 'cause I I I like I don't understand how we're hosting a fucking World Cup. Oh. And this Brady Flake football game got moved. And the F1's like... We can't try to put sports into an area of the world.

And then start bombing the shit out of it. And not have sports and politics intersect. It's a good take. It's true. Who's your guest going to be?

My guess is going to be. Political Bart. My poly sci minor.

Okay. Why not just bring Afternoon Band? And let him go. I could do it. Yeah, the Wicket would be a good guess for that.

All right. Doc Rivers. Or big Ron. I want to hear big Ron on this shit. I think he worked on Wall Street.

He did. Doc Rivers, here's my take on Doc Rivers. Yeah. The championship he won with the Celtics. should be eradicated from his record.

He is terrified. Terrible. But no, can you elaborate why? Because he is not a good coach. But, like, Mike McCarthy, like, would we eradicate his then?

Like, how many, where do you stop with eradicating one? But here's the difference, Q, and I think, Bart, this is where you're going. You had four Hall of Famers on that team. On a five person on the court at the same time thing, if you will. And you only got one championship and you basically got trounced the next year and then trounce the next year and then trounce the next year.

The reality is, yeah, the NBA playoffs is tough. You can get upset. You can get upset on that. But the reality is. Yes, thank you.

Drop away. The reality is that it can't be mad. Did they not beat Kobe, though? They beat Kobe in the finals and they beat LeBron on the way to the leadership. I'm out.

Are you gonna? What are you doing? You're defending Doc? I I think Doc Rivers is 10 times better the coach than Matt LaFlore is. And I think that is not the idea.

All of the anger that we have placed on Doc Rivers should be 100% aimed. At LaFleur. My kid, Stuffed Animal, is a better coach than Matt LaFleur. Pungy. Look at, listen, listen to me.

Yeah. Yeah. When I title this. Episode: What you see in Doc Rivers is what I see in Matt LaFleur. Same.

I don't like either of them as coaches. Yeah. Yeah. For you to say. What did you say?

Doc is 10 times the coach as Matt LaFleur. Yes, because he actually has one championship. I hate Matt LaFleur. Like, I just don't not like him. I hate Matt LaFleur.

Same. Matt LaFleur is 150 times the coach that Doc Rivers is. Nope. Doc Rivers is not trying. Doc Rivers, maybe worse, is trying.

Doc Rivers is experimenting with lineups during a game that they have to win. And the tanking, the tanking, no, this was a must-win. The tanking is gone. We can't. I just laid it out.

Everyone below us is losing and losing harder and faster and stronger. It doesn't matter. They needed to win this game. They couldn't win this game. They had a lead.

They blew it based on the lineups he was putting out there. The team is lifeless. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. They don't know how to play together. And then Doc, like I was, I turned on Lisa and who's with her, Wes right now, Matthews, and then Cam Thomas.

It's still on the floor when Giannis is out there, which hadn't happened because Doc either plays the starters or the bench. Starters or the bench. This isn't hockey shifts. You don't have to do line shifts.

So they're basically saying, ooh, we're very excited to see Cam and Giannis maybe do some pick and rolls. And then he does one with Rollins, and they're like, okay, one's coming up with Cam. Two, two, timeout. He's off the court. What the fuck?

What though, if you're going to experiment, experiment with those two, don't put Pete Nance, Jericho Sims, Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis on the floor at the same fucking time. Doc Rivers Doc Rivers once said, which I like that he said it, he said, Everybody's giving me shit for losing these game sevens. At least I'm getting the game sevens. This motherfucker is five-game back of a play-in spot. He is Doc fucking Rivers.

And this is like, if this is what he's doing, he's got a star player. And I know he was out for some time. But if this is, I don't understand, I don't understand how the same guy.

Okay. That had won a title 18 years ago. Is this guy? It's not, it's got to be. He, unless this is like some Jim Carrey mask fucking Paris shit.

Because this is not fucking Doc Rivers, man. This is not the Doc Rivers I thought. We were getting, and does he have? Here's the other thing. Is this the same fucking Dr.

Irvin's I thought I was getting, Barty?

Well, here's the other thing. Ben Banana Q Does Doc Rivers have no fucking shame? Yeah. Does he have no fucking pride? But here's this shit that losing this way.

And the way it just rolls off his fucking back. He doesn't give a shit. The big is talking about looking forward to the season being over so he can have vacation with the money that we're paying him for some fucking reason. I respect the passion. I respect the take.

All I'm saying is the league is talking about punishing tankers this season. It's like rampant more than ever. We couldn't even tank if we wanted to. I'm just gonna mess it up. Maybe they're all in cahoots.

Just hear me out. I'm just thinking outside the box. Maybe they're thinking of new ways to tank without getting caught. Because they don't want to be punished like Utah or whoever else. Docs could be hired to other teams to help them tank the little tanky.

Like, I appreciate all the bucks, Chad. This is great stuff. Um, Moondog, who's been on my ass about LaFleur. Yeah. Says he agrees with me.

About the back? Hell is frozen over. Man of the people wants you guys to raise your hand when you want to speak. A finger, he said. Pull your finger?

I want that sock monkey to come back. That was hilarious. I was dying. He's not too worried about. Let's not be shit.

The real problem tonight was no KPJ. That's from Bucky Boyd. He has been the glue this year. That is a good take. I would agree.

KPJ is, I don't know about 18 points, but it would have been more of a game.

Well, it's points and assists. Can I'm gonna here's the here's something here's a new here's something I'm gonna do. Uh I'm gonna look at this box score. And I'm going to give some comments on some guys, okay?

Okay. Uh Yannis. Yana Sedeta Cumpo. Yaniser de Cumpo is playing hard. But You can like it's Friday at 4.30 for this motherfucking guy.

Every day. You could say it's five, it's five. What was his plus minus tonight? Minus 24. And what were the other starters?

Anyone mouse lower than him? The only one worse was Jeng, who was minus 25.

So that's he knocked down a couple threes back to back. He made some shots, he had some turnovers. I like him. I don't know if he's a starter. But I'm gonna this would be my final take of the night.

I blame Giannis for this failed season more than I blame Doc Rivers. Explain. Hold on. Don is enjoying this. He wants to know who you guys are.

It's just Q, Ben, and Banana. Uh, Don, you have you have so this is the Winkler verse. This is the Winkler verse. Basically, I throw a link out, and people come on the show. People from Wisconsin come and talk to them.

Waldy, not guaranteed drinking and eating and. Talking over each other, and sometimes people try to push their sobriety takes on us, but we fight back. MJH says Q tonight is 0 for 10 from the floor. 98% usage rate.

Okay, let me finish on some guys. Oh my God. Yeah. No one caught what I said, right? Yes, I caught what you said.

All right, let me finish talking about some guys. There we go. Miles Turner is terrible. He's not good. It is sad to see.

A. J. Green is terrible. Not a starter. I don't think he's I don't even I don't think he's good.

Um Ryan Rollins I can. He had a lot of assists tonight. He had 12 assists, and that's good. He had 13 points. It does feel like He's somebody who if we're gonna keep him around He needs to have more confidence playing with Giannis because I don't think he knows what to do.

I think it's one thing for him and KPJ to figure out, like, Okay, who's doing what here? But then they've kind of figured that out. But then Giannis, you know. And if he wants to play with these ball dominant or doesn't want to play with these ball-dominant point guards. Like Rollins is a point guard.

So they're going to have to figure that out. Portis. Portis is the Pfizer Forum could get nuked, and Bobby Portis would still walk out of there. Yeah. He's not going anywhere.

Hey. Nuke jokes, not too timely right now, but it was. Nuke jokes have never been more timely.

Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to be on a YouTube video talking about that. Timely.

Um Kyle Kuzma. I think that 22 minutes off the bench is a nice effective role for Kyle Kuzma. I'd say that one was minus and what was Kuz's? Yeah. Rollins was minus 22.

He started. Remember starters in Bench barely played together. Pete Nance, Jericho Sims, Cam Thomas. I want to see the rating scores for that sh terrible lineup. Wasn't Kooz like seven of eight?

I thought he had a decent night. Yeah, Kooz had a good night. And he brought energy. Yeah. Um, some guy named Jock looked like a seven-foot Bart Winkler was hitting threes on the Bucks tonight.

Sad.

Okay, so So receding hairline? Does Jock have a receding hairline?

Okay. Jock Landale? Oh, here's a good picture. Oh, no. I would love to actually look like Jock Landale.

I can't get a real big picture. I'm doing this on the fly. If you were seven feet, would you still be... In radio? Look at 'em.

He's like a more handsome me. Can you zoom in? Yeah. See Can I have a main? If I was seven feet, would I still be in radio?

Yeah, if you were a seven footer. The Trevor guy's seven feet. On the fan in the morning. Oh, yeah. What about Butchy?

But well, Butch played. You know, Butch played in the All-American game with LeBron James? That's nuts. I did not know that. Yeah, he was in the same game as LeBron.

Were they on the same team? Ah, I don't remember. I'd have to look. But yeah, Butcher's in that game.

Okay. Which played Appleton West? My buddy John shut him down one night. It was awesome. Here's another, I got another analogy for you.

Dock Rivers and Lebrun James are on the same arc. Where, like, they just both stayed around way too long. Yeah. Except LeBron was actually really, really, really one of the greatest of all times during his prime, whereas Doc Rivers as a coach was not. I gotta show you this.

I mean, they both have a bunch of championships with a bunch of other all-stars. I gotta show you this fucking roster.

Okay. I think I show you this roster.

So, Brian Butch scored six points in that McDonald's All-American game. Here's the roster.

So LeBron's team. We're going back to 2003. Yep. Chris Paul and LeBron were on the same team. Charlie Villanueva.

Mm. Yep. Travis Outlaw did not attend. Brandon Bass. Charlie V.

Yes. Future bug.

Okay. And then they played against Butch's team, which had Shannon Brown, Aaron Brooks, Chris Humphreys. Was Shannon Brown Illinois? Mm-hmm.

Yeah, Perk didn't attend. No, he's missing. Perked in at 10, but he was on the team. How about that? That well, it seems wi-so LeBron's team won, clearly.

Yeah. 122 to 107, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Hmm.

Okay, now no one has anything to say. We have plenty to see boards. Yeah. I was told not to talk. You were many times by me harshly.

Ben, did we ever get back to you explaining your question? No, I'm trying to come up with an analogy of. of Michael Jordan. To LeBron James to Doc Rivers like Everybody wanted LeBron to be like Jordan, but never quite made it. I don't know.

I don't think he's a Jordan. And it's like Doc is so bad, and everybody thinks he's good. But he's just not. Jake sure does have a lot of criticism on the ones he doesn't join. I want to hop on then.

Why don't you come tell us about your sobriety? That's what we all want to hear about. No, we're going to we don't care about that. Let's talk about Jake's takes. No, no, no.

Um Yeah.

Yeah, we're going to go to bed soon. Anything else? Again, I'm sad about Milwaukee. The Panthers got their ass kicked like fucking hard. Are we cheering for Gottley now?

Got leab? Yes. I'm not. I rude against him last night, but don't tell him. I'm cheering for him because why the heck not at this point?

Chaos. I thought you switched to being a fan of his because he swore. and got passionate. No, I um I have a respect for him. But I'm not rooting for him.

Okay. But I have a respect for him. I think he's going to get a better job next year. Yeah. Well, he's a name.

He's a well-known name. You think he bolts Green Bay? That's my prediction. Cool. He feels like he's gonna be an SEC coach in no time.

Yeah. You think the Bruce Pearl model? Yep. Horizon to SEC. He's got to win some stuff.

He's on their track.

Okay. Yeah, I gotta get happening. Yeah, I don't think they're going to get out of that bracket, but I'm on the fence. I was going to let you decide if I cheer for a GB or not, but. Bart, you're telling me I shouldn't.

I have never had any connection to Green Bay. I did. I did have a I was in a soccer camp there in fourth grade. And I like in love with this girl that. Look like ice box from little giants.

Number her. Yeah. So I crushed on her, but Hi, I'm Mark Murphy. Mark Murphy's working at GB. Good root for him.

Yeah, he's like the president or some fucking. I saw him on a billboard actually, Bart, with the I Am a Phoenix. Ooh. Who was that on mm-hmm that said he was the glue? Murphy, probably Grant.

Mm-hmm.

I thought that was the take of the show.

Sorry. But yeah. I did not predict that. I've had enough for the night. Me and Buddy here, we're going to bed.

Good night. This is terrible. What the fuck was that thing? I don't want to know. Yeah.

I don't know. It's probably about time. Thanks, Bart. This is fun. I'm never going to listen to this one, but I thoroughly enjoyed being here.

Hold on. Matt, are you? Matt, do you want to come on? Let's get them in here. Give me a thumbs up.

Are you good, Matt? Matt, you want to come on? I was watching the drink you were making. Yeah, that's a good one. What do you got there?

Cap and diet. Wow, that's the way to go. You were at the game, I take it. Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah.

Handshake to all other 175 people there. Yeah, pretty much. There was nobody there. Until 8:30 on a Wednesday, that'll do it. They all left quickly.

How is the atmosphere? Yeah. Well, it started off all right, but then we suck and everybody left. God. What were your thoughts on the game?

Oh, I still don't understand why Ajay's getting so much playing time. I went when they played Boston. And he played more minutes than Bobby, more minutes than everybody. I think going in the fourth quarter. He had He was leading the team in minutes.

And they had zero points. I don't know. So, what was the point of Kuzma being benched the other night? Not because of the bad pass. Why did he choose to play the other night?

Uh they said he was hurt, I think. Yeah. I think. Against Boston he played, but he didn't do anything until like the third quarter and they were just leaving him wide open. I have a hypothetical for you guys.

Let's say Doc Rivers. Is shopping at the pick and save on Lion Avenue or whatever street that is, or the metro market, whatever, by points east, where nobody goes anymore. And he's in the grocery aisle and he's got the cart and he sees Like Kyle Kuzma at the end of the aisle. You know, sometimes you run to people from high school at the grocery store. Do you think he like bolts and like pretends to not see him and goes the other way?

I do. No, Doc will talk it up probably. Yeah, Doc will talk up anyone. But I don't think that man has bought his own groceries in a long, long time. But I like this.

I like the question. Oh, you think he instacarts it now? Yeah, he's got people for that. He kept Storm in the court like he cared. He does not care.

There'd be a bad call and he'd be out there. But He's awful. He needs to get away from it. It is weird. He is coaching.

Like he wants to be fired because he's terrible. But he is also like Okay. Acting as if he's like, see, I really want this job. See, I'm like mad. See, I'm like, really.

Okay. I'm doubling down. I think it's all quiet tanks. I think it's all orchestrated. I think Giannis is in on it.

We fired a coach that was what 30 and 17 or 30 and 19 for him. And we're going to end up in the lottery and get like the top four picks. 31 and 13. There's something like that. 31.

Okay. I didn't know that number. Yeah. It was I think it was 31 and 13. And I remember I.

I actually wanted him gone. I was like, how are we not winning? And I was actually happy that we got Doc, and I am completely wrong after that. Was Dame on the team when Adrian Griffin got fired? Mm-hmm.

Uh Yeah, that was his first year. Because we fired Bud in trading for him. They hired Griff and then they traded for Dame in September. And then they brought, well, if you knew you were going to get Dame. Would you have fired Bud?

Like, would you? Oh, you're right. Yep. Would you have done that? And then they hired Stots to be the dame whisperer and then It didn't work.

MDK says, Doc definitely eats at the Bucks facility every day, every meal. Motherfucking fridge unplugged and back. That's the take of the day. Yeah. Yeah.

Just checking out. Uh That's pretty good. All right, guys. Have a good night. See ya.

Yeah, I should get to bed too. See ya. Giannis Take care, Bart. Thanks. See you, buddy.

May it Got my drink of choice. A little jealous there. Are we going to get another Bart pod this week? I probably. I don't know what I'm doing.

I need to go to bed right now. Um Fucking tired. Being a stay at home dad's kicking my ass. It's hard. I don't know what the fuck I did all day.

I have nothing to show for it. Yeah, I do. I have two pods today. I got some fun time with you. I got.

Six guys talking over each other. That's good stuff. Talked a little uh Yeah. Talk a little WBC. Is that game over yet?

That game old world baseball classic. USA plays on Friday against Brazil. And then Sunday, Saturday. Against um Great Britain? I like it.

I like it. I like the WBC. I'm going to get up at 4 o'clock tomorrow and watch Japan, I think. That's what I'm going to do. All right.

Bucks are terrible. Season's over. That's, I mean, that's what happened here tonight. Season's dog shit. Team is dog shit.

Coach is dog shit. The problem is that there is a good version of this team. This roster, there's a better version of this team with this roster that we'll never see. And you gotta blame Doc Rivers for that, and we do. And we do.

Thank you, everybody. New pods coming soon. In the meantime. Uh check out the the ones we've been doing. The wicked one was fun.

Who else I talked to lately? Frames. All right. We'll talk soon. Thank you, as always, for stopping into the Winklerverse.