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Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. Good afternoon, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler. Welcome into the Winkler Verse. I hope that you are doing what I was trying to do.
That's enjoy. A nice weekend, uh, busy day. Kid had some basketball. We had a soccer game, that was fun, and now. Just kind of hanging out and relaxing, watching Bills Broncos through some money on the Bills at halftime.
So, really eager that my Bills come back and get the dub here. today and then and then uh and then I s and then and then I saw the news. And we had already talked about this. Look, I figured that Matt LaFleur was going to get extended. But even if you think he's going to get extended, once you see that he did get extended, you're going to react one way or the other.
And let me get the Bart Winkler. Victim tour. Out of the way here first, because a lot of people are upset. Either with me or at me, or of me for being this hard on the floor as I've been. All season.
And you may feel differently. You may think that they should run it back. You may really, really like this guy. He may mean a lot to you. I do not like him as the Packers head coach.
I think that he can be a good head coach in other situations. I don't like him as the Packers head coach. I don't like that the Packers are continuing on. Uh with Matt LaFleur. And what I don't like the most, I guess, Because, you know, I am struggling with this one.
I am. I'm struggling with I'm struggling with What is it that we want? as Packer fans. Because I think I'm in the right. I I think I'm in the right I that's that's the way I feel.
I think I'm in the right. I think Matt LaFleur should not be rewarded for bad behavior. I think he has coached this team. To Playoff losses, heartbreaking losses. Time and time again.
That I don't think he should deserve the opportunity. to keep that going. I haven't seen the contract details yet or how long or whatever. Any of it is too much for me. Any of it is too much for me.
I didn't I don't I don't want I don't care. And I'm sure when I do see it. Like Even if I'm in my head, whatever it is, whatever it is, I'm not going to like the year number. I'm not going to like. The um I'm not gonna like the the number.
Salary-wise either. I think what's unfortunate is the timing of all this. Because he had another year left on his contract. He almost seemed to have git.
some sort of leverage in that. Because the Packers, and I know Ed Polise said it, but it doesn't matter if he said it or not. This is how teams should operate. You do not want to go into lame duck situations. If you do, you might as well just fire the guy.
You don't want to go into lame duck situations. Um Because i again, if you do Is he coaching for the team or is he coaching for himself? Got a comment from Ed here. Let's go get McDaniel as the offensive coordinator.
Okay, that would turn things around for me. That would be good. I just don't understand. What happened to the standard? That that's what I That's what I don't understand.
Alex said he saw someone call it Idletown. I saw a Bears fan call it Idletown. I had never heard of Idletown. I've heard of Entitletown. Uh, but I I've never heard of Idletown.
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Here on the uh Dan Shaney YouTube stream. As we come to you on a Saturday. I I'm watching Bills Broncos.
So inadvertently I'm doing a Bills Broncos live I just wanted to watch some football today. I just wanted to watch some football. How am I feeling, Steve? Terrible. Terrible.
And again, I'll just give you the 10,000 feet view. of where I'm at here. I don't want to sit here and do what I always do, which is Rip on fans, but I I just I feel like with this move it is signaled that that the Packers are no longer the Packers. The the Packers are the Brewers. The Packers are the Herb Cole Bucks.
The Packers are content. The Packers are not championship. worthy. They don't they don't seek titles. The Packers want to Continue this.
They are in this business. They have seen what Matt LaFleur has had to offer. For seven years. And they want to continue that. They don't want to see if somebody can come in here and do better.
What they're telling you, because if you Fire le Fleur. Dot, dot, dot, who are you gonna get? Right, you don't know, you don't know, you're taking a risk. No matter who it is.
Now you're taking a risk. They could be somebody worse. Yeah. They could be somebody better, but for some reason that doesn't matter. It's just, well, they could be somebody worse.
You're just assuming that if you fire Matt LaFleur, it's going to be somebody worse. By extending Matt LaFleur. What you are doing. Is you are saying that this was a good job. This was a job well done.
You are satisfied. With these results. You have earned. Not only the right to keep your job.
So, we're not going to fire you. You have earned the right to have it longer. And you You have earned the right to make more money.
So again The extension part of this. I think will be interesting. Um How long are they giving him? Does that mean that he could still? He's just not, he's not, he's going to be your coach for another three.
Four years. It just doesn't matter. He's not getting fired next year. He's going to. He's going to be here.
I think I'm just. You know, I'm not Who satisfied the Packers? And policy. The brass. The organization.
Maybe, maybe I just, maybe I was foolish to think. To think this. Maybe I was foolish. Good, you don't fire an excellent coach because your emotions were hurt. And we're just not going to see eye to eye on that.
I don't know why you think he's an excellent coach. I don't know why you think he's an excellent coach. He's not done anything. To show you that he's an excellent coach. He got here with Rodgers.
Rodgers had two MVP seasons. With Matt LaFleur, who was not Matt LaFleur. Matt LaFleur was not Rogers' coach. Matt LaFleur was a manager. The first few years.
Rogers. and Hackett and all these guys, they were calling the offense. Matt LaFleur was a puppet. And then He became the coach once Rogers was traded. And then now he's coaching Jordan Love.
And they've had disappointing results. They've had disappointing results in the playoffs. This year, they're getting. The cover of injuries and oh, the season ended in Denver. I mean, we were upset about some of these games before that.
The Browns game. It happened a long time before that. The Panthers game. That they should have won happened a long time. Before that.
So just because Micah Parsons got hurt in. Denver doesn't mean he should keep his job. NFL talk and a tweet. Packers led by 10 at Cleveland this year. They led by 13 at Dallas this year.
And then they led by nine at Denver. And against Chicago, they land by 10 in the first game and by 18 in the second game, and they didn't win. any of those games. And you can say, sure, injuries, Tucker Craft, Micah Parsons. It didn't happen week three, week four, and the fact that Had they won some of these earlier games, they wouldn't have had to play Chicago.
They wouldn't have had to go on the road. They wouldn't have had to be the seventh seed. They wouldn't have had to do any of that. They could have won some of these earlier games. And not had to have been the seventh seed.
And this is like. You guys are okay with that. You guys are okay with that. Those of you that are, you guys are okay with that. You're okay with.
You're okay with the seven seed. You're okay with getting in the playoffs and Rolling the dice to see what happens. You're okay with that. I don't know, man. It's Tidal Town.
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It's not even division title town. We don't even need to win those. And you're fine. Every other team's won a division since the Packers have. In their division.
It's not even division title town. It's seven seed town. And that's fine. I will not understand it. I will not understand it.
I don't understand. If you see this news, There are people If you see this news and think, okay, LaFleur got extended. That's a lower risk move than going to find someone else. I'm a risk-adverse person. I know at least we're going to make the postseason.
Whatever. But if you're somebody who sees this news and you're like, Hell yeah, we kept our guy. I don't know how he has that sway over you. I don't know how Matt LaFleur can be anybody's guy. He hasn't done anything.
He hasn't done anything. Regular season record.
Okay, hang a banner for that. Hang a banner for that. Arguing about a regular season record in the NFL is just. Doesn't make any sense. This is a playoff league.
You're going to have Sean McDermott. If the Bills don't win this game, you think he's still going to be the head coach? I don't. There there is there is pressure. On this team.
There should be. But you've taken it away. You've taken it away from them. They knew they could do this. on the weekend.
While we're distracted. Holiday weekend. They knew. They knew they could do this. If they were proud of this, they would have extended him on Monday or Tuesday or even Wednesday.
But they extend, they might as well, this news might as well be coming down at two in the fucking morning. This is what they wanted, though. They are telling, the Packers are telling you right now. That The standard is not the standard. They're telling you right now they are content.
with what they've been doing. And they are telling you right now that We believe with this roster. Matt LaFleur. Can lead us to but I don't even think they are though. I don't even think they are.
I don't think they are. I don't think the Packers are telling you we believe in Matt LaFleur. I don't think that's what this move is. They're not telling you, hey, if we're healthy with this roster, Matt LaFleur can lead you to a Super Bowl. No, what they're telling you is we are okay with what has happened for the last seven years.
We're okay with it. In fact, we like it. We want more of it. It's the bites of the apple thing. Take a bite of the apple.
Maybe one of these years we'll You know, we'll hit it. This is the rationale of a lottery player. The more lottery tickets I buy, I'm sure to win on one of them. Yeah, alright. I mean, this isn't Was the movie Jerry and Lar Marge go large?
Unless you buy fucking a billion. Tickets? Then you'll then you'll start to win. That's This is just very... It's a bummer.
That he got extended. It's a bummer. that the Packers believe that this is good enough. It's a bummer that a lot of fans believe This is good enough. It's even more of a bummer that a lot of fans are happy.
About this news, that you believe. Mat LaFleur is the guy. I'm not going to root against him, and I hope you're right. I hope you're right. I think Matt LaFleur got Rewarded for bad behavior.
And if they win a Super Bowl with them, I still feel like that's going to be true. Bobby says, What happens if it's the same shit next season? There'll be excuses. I mean, look at some of the comments right now.
Well, now Matt LaFleur needs better assistance. Hasn't he had his pick of assistance a couple of times? He's been here for seven years. You guys act like the Super Bowl was three years ago, and then McCarthy and Rogers left, and LaFleur took over with Love, and he's just like starting out. I know everybody's Brain's been scrambled here in these.
2020 is about just the the concept of time, but man. It's been a long time. Since the Packers have won a championship. They don't have a coach with the killer instinct. They've got Ben Johnson in their division now, which is, he owns you.
And now, what are you going to go? Do you go fake tough guy him the next time the Packers play the Bears? I'm very disappointed in Ed policy. For keeping these guys around.
Now, Good, I think. Does I don't think good is Okay, I'm a big goop guy 'cause of lacrosse. But I don't think Goot Has done anything to get himself fired. I certainly think if the Packers decided not to extend them, that that would make sense too. The water heater factory is standing in and saying, as your therapist, I want to ask yourself.
Is this what's best for the Packers or is this what's best for you? I don't think this is what's best for the Packers. But they do. And that's a bummer for me. Because I Look, I d I don't I don't I've been talking about the Packers a long time.
And I've heard from a lot of people that want to go seventies and eighties. Packers to me and and that's fine. I I know you lived through that. And it was a long time ago. But that again was a long time ago.
That was forty-five years ago. The Packers are not that team anymore. The Packers in my lifetime. Have been a perennial Super Bowl contender. They haven't won a lot.
They won it twice. They've had 30 plus years of Hall of Fame quarterback play. But there have been a Super Bowl contender. They've been one seeds, they've been two seeds, they've had bye weeks, they've had home games. We're not we're not even doing that anymore.
I think I look at this a lot differently if And I talked about this with love. Like, if Jordan love. Had a playoff loss in his first year, but he got to the playoffs. And then the next year, he went and beat Dallas and then lost in the next game. Then you're coming into the third year of a starter year on the up.
If Matt LaFleur takes over and he's the seventh seed for a few years. And then he's a one seed, a two seed, then it's completely different. But but Matt LaFleur's teams are doing worse.
now than they were when he started. And I think a lot of that's got to be on the coaching. And yeah, Rich Persaccio, we haven't heard his name yet. We don't know what's going on. Looks like Halfley is going to be gone.
We don't know who the. Offensive coordinator. Uh is gonna be We don't know any of that. But we know that Matt LaFleur will be back and the Packers are telling you that they're okay with it. They're okay with this product.
They're okay with this product. Dusty says, I feel like I'm in an abusive relationship with this team. It's just really disheartening. Because what I thought the Packers were are not what I thought. the Packers were.
You know how they say never meet your heroes? I'm at the Packers today. They're a team that Settles for playoff appearances. They're okay with that. This is coming off a five-game losing streak.
This is coming off a 21-3 lead that you blew. to your rival I don't even know if they understand they got the Rams tomorrow. They've been so excited about. Beating Us. They should.
Changing of the guard. And I don't think this does anything for us to get that torch back. Matt LaFleur and Ben Johnson. It's going to be six years of these guys trying to. Out short hands shake each other.
That's sweet. Yeah, I'm just really disheartened, man. I'm really disheartened. Because The Packers are not who they thought. Let me redo that.
The Packers are not Who I thought they were. And you're letting them off the hook. Goody will get an extension. Russ Ball, yeah, they're keeping this all together. They are telling you that this is good enough.
That's what they're telling you. They're not they're not It's not like I'm asking them to. It's not like Matt LaFleur got us on the doorstep of the Super Bowl for five years, and I'm like, oh, get rid of him. I'm talking about a guy who barely gets into the playoffs. And if they weren't extended and expanded, he wouldn't get in.
He won't get in. Honest question, Ben says: Did you really think they won't extend him? No. I thought all week they'd extend them. I think why I don't know.
What's the analogy? Like, oh, you think, you know, yeah, I got, I got, I got, I think I'm sick. I think I'm sick. I think I'm sick. But then you actually get the diagnosis.
You get the diagnosis, and it's um. It's there on the paper. Official? I hate to see my favorite mailman in this move or in this mood. Yeah.
Well, good thing for me. It's a holiday weekend. I get two days off. I'll be back. Carrying that bag over my shoulder on Tuesday.
Man, I don't like it. I don't like it. Everybody knows I don't like it. I'm apathetic, man. I'm apathetic about the draft.
I'm apathetic about the offseason. I'm apathetic about the regular season. I'm apathetic about everything until they're in an NFC championship game. Because we haven't been able to get there without Aaron Rodgers, and Matt LaFleur has never proven that he's the kind of guy that's going to get you back there.
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And look, a lot of other teams and a lot of other fan bases They'll tell you that. We would kill for what the Packers had. We would we would kill for that. And in the 70s and 80s, I would have killed for that too. I just want them to be good.
I just want them to be in the plays. I just want them to be mentioned on, you know, the shows. Thirty years, man. This team's won 13 championships. They've won four Super Bowls.
They're letting these teams catch up to them and pass them. And I'm not just talking about like The Patriots and the Chiefs in terms of NFL history. I'm talking about the Lions and the Vikings and the Bears. Who's winning a Super Bowl first in this division? Starting right now.
Is it the Packers? How could it be? It's just very disheartening. I'm disheartened. I'm disheartened.
I know, it's just sports. I'm disheartened though. Jesse says, We are losers. What can we do as shareholders? Can't we vote these guys out?
I want to burn this team to the ground. 4052WI says horrible show. Yeah, I agree with you. It is a horrible showing from the Packers to continue with Matt LaFleur. Go be a Bears fan.
That doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any sense. And and and this this is the kind of people That I just don't get it. What about this extension? What about this extension excites you?
What about it excites you? Yea, more of the same Yay. That first weekend in January, I get a go to a bar. With my buddies. Hope the bar is free, jello shots after touchdowns.
And then the next weekend, you know, Mike Delvo. Schedule is clear. I don't think there's anybody else out there that they see that they can get this year to replace him. Yeah, I I I don't know. I think that Matt LaFleur was not the answer.
They fire Matt LaFleur. They interview like nine guys. They end up on this guy. Nobody liked him to start. What did he do over these seven years?
To convince you? That he's the guy. What did he do over these last seven years to excite you that he should continue to be this head coach? Nothing. You like him because he looks good.
He is He is. The Softest. Most excuse me. ridden head coats. Certainly that we've ever had.
All my life I grew up. Football's tough guys. Yeah, I played soccer.
So yeah. Football Fridays? I don't have a jersey on. Everybody in the high school wear football jerseys.
Some Fridays we'd be like, all right, I'm going to wear my soccer jersey. I'll get pushed into a locker. No big deal. 'Cause football's tough. This guy knows more football and his pinky than you'll ever.
Okay, football, football's tough. I grew up, I didn't really like it, I didn't really understand it, but I accepted it. Our menliest men play football. You can't truly be an alpha unless you played high school football. Would have gone pro, but you blew up your knee.
I didn't like it. I didn't understand it, but I accepted it. And now here I am? As an adult man. Watching The guy that Outbetas me?
Be the leader of men? 21-3, you can't squash the neck of your rival. You go out there and lose? 21-3. 21-3, you gotta go in that lacquer room and be like.
We're gonna quiet these motherfuckers. God, this feels so goddamn good. God knows what happened in that locker room.
Well, geez, I don't know, guys. We got to go out there and get them. We just got to establish the run and completely change how we're. Ben, you care about losing halfly. I'm not that sure.
I'm that upset about it. No, I don't care. Half Lee, I never I never cared about Half Lee. Halfly, there were two nice games at the beginning of the year. That was all Micah.
Half-lead. We like Mike Petton for a while. We even like Dom Capers for a while. These guys come in, they throw everything at their first three games. We love them.
Then they suck. I knew when that defense was, I knew it was too good to be true. Remember that year against Seattle, first week of the season? The defense was like amazing. And then they just suck the rest of the year.
Freedom boner. When did Packer fans become okay with mediocrity? It's like we've been trained that Green Bay can do no wrong. And today otherwise makes you a bad fan. Sure.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people think of me as a bad fan. If you agree with me, you're a bad fan. The one I've been getting a lot is I'm bitching just to bitch.
I'm not bitching just to bitch. I'm laying down. Cozy upstairs. Under my nicest, warmest blanket. I get this notification, which was a text from Carlos Ortiz, who said, Yikes.
I thought he maybe saw something else. I didn't realize the extension went through just now. Checked the phone. Saw it.
Okay. Trying to watch this football game. Was just about to crack open a seltzer. A happy place, Hem Seltzer. I mean, I will write after this, but.
Just about to relax the rest of the night, low-key. A busy day, like I said. Got some stuff done around the house. Tomorrow I'll attack the day, but You know what? It's Saturday night.
I just want to relax and watch some football. I like the Niners tonight. I like the Bills to still win. Although we're down to the two-minute warning here, I might as well just. Watch this rest of this game, I guess.
I didn't want to come down here. I didn't want to. I didn't want to talk about this. And, you know, I'm glad I have a platform, and some of you have joined me to talk about it. I'm certainly not going to complain about that.
I don't really, I can't, I don't remember a word I've said in the last 28 minutes. I don't know what I've said. I have no idea. I know I don't like it, but I don't remember. Like, I'm doing this in a haze.
As soon as I go back upstairs, I'll be like, I don't know.
Well, I'll have to watch this later. I'll be like, watching, be like watching an AI version of me. I'm not going to remember doing this. I am just. I am just a apathetic as can be.
Packers too scared to find a new head coach. I guess I could throw the link out if anyone wants. I forgot even to do that. Normally, as soon as I hop in here, I throw out a link. I completely forgot to do that.
I didn't honestly, I was going to come down here and do eight minutes and then go back and watch the end of this game. And now this is the fastest half hour that I've ever lived in my life. I I don't I don't I I'm very upset. I'm upset. I'm upset.
As upset as I am, as I am, as I am. That the Packers did this. I am just as upset about how many people are okay with it. I think that's a big problem for me. I I Look, I got to attack 2026 as the year I got to work on some of these things that even I would make fun of myself if I was looking at myself from afar.
Somebody tweeted the other day, um. Boy, you always think you're right, and everybody else that doesn't agree with you is stupid. I'm like, yeah. That is how I feel. I was trying to disguise that a little more though.
I was watching uh Traders. I like the show Traders now all of a sudden. And Michael Rappaport, a lot of people know him. I've always looked at Michael Rappaport as just like him. You know, he's crazy, man.
He's always yelling and getting himself into trouble. And I was watching him. I'm like, is that how people do people think I'm Michael Rappleport? Do people see me the way that I watch him act just like crazy, yelling all the time? No filter.
Is that how people see me? Like this? I don't feel that way. But I have I have been screaming all year about Matt LaFleur. I really dialed it up after the Browns game.
I had enough then. LaFleur, I could have been happy if they got rid of him last year. I didn't like a lot of the stuff he did last year. I've been picking on his. In-between game halftime press conferences.
I haven't liked those. I don't like stuff he says. I don't like how he always. Uh blames himself. I don't like I don't like any of this touchdown Denver.
Was he Ian? Yeah. I don't like any of this. I'm watching into this game. Shit.
Denver. Hey, when do you want to let these guys know that we're going to extend them? Yeah, do it during this Denver game. The teammate. Team they lost to.
Matt LaFleur. Signing an extension. Probably a long one. Multi-year He's going to be the coach to the end of this decade.
Well, you better win a Super Bowl, man. You better win a Super Bowl. It's the only way it's the only way to shut me up. It's the only way to shut Any of us up. You gotta win a Super Bowl.
And so good for him. He's got the opportunity. to do that. He has got the opportunity. He did not earn it.
He did not earn it. But he's got the opportunity to do it. It's very disheartening. I'm very disheartened. Enjoy the rest of your football weekend.
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