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Good morning, everybody. Welcome into the Winklerverse. I'm Bart Winkler. Grant Bill's alongside. And uh and Paul Immig.
I think I am starting to unravel. Um Well, I think I've been unraveling. Mm-hmm. In more ways than one.
Okay, good one. I don't know. I got all upset. Every year we do this with the Bears Fan Fest, Packers Family Night. I saw your tweets, yes.
And then Packers fans, Packers. We shouldn't be doing that. Don't With the this family night thing. It's unique. It's special.
You know Yeah. We fill up Lambeau Field consistently every year. Other places don't. Yeah. Did we?
That wasn't me. I had my mic off. Paul, we just did a... We just did a A team crack there. Wow, nice.
I wish I would have done my audio. Is that your audio? No, that was Paul. I also did, yeah. It was timed perfectly well.
That was unbelievable. Wait, what's everybody drinking today? You got a DC? You got a regular dude? I gotta do zero.
Just a treat for those on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. That was look at our camera. I'm uncomfortable. I don't like this new Mountain Dew font. I never like the bread.
I don't like their new commercial. Excuse me. I always burp when I drink bubbles. I don't like the commercial. It runs during the MLB app when you're listening to Brew Game.
Give me a thing with lots to do. It sucks. It's not good. Give me a do. I'll find it and send it.
It's not good. Well, I'll leave the commercial discourse for others. Mm. Back to Family Night. This was a good thing, of all the things that you rant about when we begin, this is a worthwhile one.
So let's pursue this further. I like this. I just don't feel like we need to be the aggressor. Like we we have a nice thing Why are we pushing down? And I'm really.
And then 'cause then Bears fans will answer with something. you know And then we'll answer back. And I'm just. I am not, you know, I am not into. I'm just not into, I'm not into making this rivalry a 365-day a year thing.
Good take. You get Bears Week. Packers week. You get a week, you get to celebrate on Monday. Maybe one more day of gloat.
Or gets subject to the abuse on a Tuesday.
So at most 20 days. Maybe throw in a rare like trade or offseason, we won the offseason or you know, Aaron Rodgers retired or what 21 days. Out of your year. At most. You can make Packers Bears a part of your personality.
It's a good number. Any any more than that? is a problem. It's a problem.
Well, it's never going to go anywhere. It's the same thing every year. Like, oh, look at the crummy crowd at Soldier Field. And they're like, well, Lollapalooza is right down the street because it's an actual city. And then we're like, oh, would you wear your Kevlar vest when you're walking between the two?
And then it's just like, oh, God. It's the same thing every year. We get sick of this? Chicago, I love Chicago. I like going there as well.
I love being in Chicago. I tried to move to Chicago. I got a job there. Turned it down. Yeah, I I was gonna sling phones for all tell.
Oh. I don't know. Altel? I was gonna sling phones for them. I went down to Navy Pier when I was in my T V days and Did just a fly-by the there was a job fair.
Went to a job fair. At the Navy Pier? Uh Or was it at the Bean and then you went to the Navy Pier as a tourist? No, the Navy pier was that's where the job fair was. Oh, okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
And I went by myself, and then there was like a guy who I kinda knew from college. I'm like, Wanna meet for lunch? I'm in town. And he's like Sure? Yeah.
And I don't think I've talked to him since. And if you see him tomorrow, I bet you could pick it up and it would be just fine because that's how men are for the most part. I don't know about Paul. Paul, socially, I bet that you have some.
Some quirks that are maybe Off off the mainstream of the average man. But men operate that way. I haven't seen you in 10 years.
Well, I'm in town. What the fuck? Might as well. Like, sure. I want deep conversations, Grand.
I'm not into the long form. Yeah, that's right. That's why this is so good for me. I will do this for as long as you two guys want to do this. This is great.
This is just our weekly play date, let's be honest. Yeah, this is wonderful. We get to converse and Bart makes $3.42. It's really a win-win-win win. Mm-hmm.
Although YouTube struck one of my Premier League videos, unbelievable. But I took a video of the replay. Maybe that's why. Oh. Can they stop?
I mean, that, dude, what I was curious about when you shared that was like, can they stop you? From doing, oh, did we just lose Grants or did he duck away? He'll be back. Did, like, can they stop you from posting 12 seconds? Of You're you're at the stadium for the Packers game.
And you post one play. Look at this play. Yeah, I guess they can. But I think the Premier League might have more rules than even The other one.
So, the West Ham, the backstory on why I was so enamored by this goal. When I went to Chicago last week, let me just, you know. Yeah, do it. Set the scene. Uh I went to Chicago, a city I quite enjoy.
And where's that from? Marketing. I said he or Jeff Wagner. Jet Wagner. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, D I quite enjoy. And back in high school, my dad was the soccer coach at the time. And So my dad was my coach and I was the goalie. Oh, you should really have kept going, but okay. And I Wanted to, you know, there's, I've talked about this many times.
There's two goalies, I'm the coach's kid, I win. He was Very flashy. with normal saves.
So if there was just a ball coming in. He'd knock it out or he'd do something amazing. You know, he was. If there was a ball coming right here, instead of just like scooping it up, he would just. That's what he would do.
Uh the n the name for that is T V Keeper. As if like you're you're you're keeping like you're on T V. Right. And so I felt like to win over the faction of the team that did not like me, I feel like I had to outflash him. But then whatever what ended up happening was Um I would try a lot and miss.
So a ball would come right to me. Right to me, and I try to punch it over the net instead of just catching it. I mean, we lost games 1-0 because of this. 'Cause you tried to get too flashy? Yes.
Uh and so the punch save has stuck with me. Um Even at our high school prom. There was one dance that Turned into 50 people doing the punch save.
So at the soccer game, I'm with my dad. And I see a punch save in the wild for the first time ever. And it's how my team, West Ham, they won 2-1. It's how they score. And it was just like Insane.
So I put a five-second video of the replay on that because I'm not taping it live. But I put a five-second video on YouTube. And somehow the Premier League found Into the Winklerverse channel. Mm. So I did get to keep the 14 cents I made on the YouTube short.
It's big. But you're unable to view it now. Only my eyes can see it. And I would show you I can't. I don't want this $3 in nickels to go away.
Don't. Don't even, yeah, definitely not.
So that's where I am. Paul, I'll turn it over to you. I have a brewer's topic I'm super excited to talk about. Seriously. Like I first off.
How much of the national series did you guys watch? I watched a lot. I watched a lot. Every pitch. I don't do any.
All of it. Yeah. This is not even. I was planning because I want to. I really have a meaty topic I'm curious about.
Like, that did not feel like two MLB teams, right? That was Varsity and JV. Like, that was. On Believable. No, I tweeted yesterday.
It was like watching. A group of Eskimos club seals. Like, that's what, that's what came to me. That's what it was like. They just, I mean, I didn't even watch the highlights last night.
I almost always, Major League Baseball, they do a great job posting those highlight compilations with great call. They're really well done. Yes, they are. I didn't even want to. I got to pivot quick because, granted, I love how he, like, the next day with the rained out.
Speedway game or whatever. I was in on that thing. I watched all two and a half hours of Rain Delay come. And I texted you, I think. I texted so many people.
I'm like, you guys, they're just dying on the vine. The studio crew, they're just, they're just getting hung out to dry. And then I was good.
So on Saturday, Fox. They thought they were going to air this baseball game. They did, but they kept the studio crew on TV. And they just had to hang there. And I love when that happens to TV people.
Yeah, it's so bad. As a radio man, it's so bad. Like, okay, Phil, yeah, you got to Phil. Fill time. That's what you have to do now.
Fill time. And then when they try to do it on. Let's just say regional baseball networks without naming anyone. Definitely don't name any. They get like past one or two minutes of fill time and it's like We got to show a fucking Euchre documentary or some shit.
We are fucked. The CC Sabbathia thing that Visal is in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're fucked.
So I'll expound on that and just say. I think that should be a test of like getting a job doing that. If you can't fill. As you're saying, like you don't belong. Like, I know that's not what you're going to do 95% of the time, but if you can't carry a long-form discussion, again, this is why I find this so valuable.
I think it's why in general, podcasts have overtaken. It's like, Bart, as you've said, it either needs to be super long or it needs to be like seven seconds, right? But, like, anyone can do the bullshit they do at halftime of any sports game. Like, all right, we're going to kick it to you for your 20-second opinion. I'm going to kick it to you for your 20-second opinion.
All right, commercial break, back to the game. It's like that is not skillful. It was nothing. Who does that benefit? Who does that add?
I don't get it. It was funny because they kept throwing it to Ken Rosenthal, and KB would-you could hear KB, Kevin Burkhart, you'd hear him like, and let's go back down to Ken Rosenthal. And then they'd pan, and he'd have, he went into the clubhouse and pulled some guy out into the tunnel. And Ken's like, all right, and we're here with nobody wants to be doing any of this. And the best part is, like, some of the segments were incredible.
They did like eight minutes on the mental toll a rain delay takes on a player. And keep in mind, it's Jeter, A-Rod, and Ortiz. And Jeter's like, the worst part is the no, the second that you relax, you know, the manager's going to come in. We got worse. First pitch in 20 minutes.
And everyone at the table's like, oh, yeah, yeah. You guys ate fruit roll-ups and played slapdick. And like, none of what I'm hearing right now is real. Unless it's a playoff game, obviously. But it takes the worst mentally, it just takes its toll.
It's like, no, it fucking shorts. But it was, I couldn't, I couldn't look away. In theory, you have a handful of. The best, or among you know, among the group of best, of at least Bart and my lifetime. And they can't like Talk baseball reasonably.
For a few extra minutes. Like, you also have to dance around Um When you don't know when the stop is.
So do I approach and bring up a new topic? that could have real meat on the bone. Or Is the 54 mark coming up? No, because if you can stretch what you're talking about. To the top of the hour, then you have this brand new wetland.
It's sitting there. It's sitting there. It was incredible to watch. And then they go to Ken Rosenthal at the very end. They're there with the president of the grounds.
This guy's never been on TV in his goddamn life. And Ken Rosenthal's like, what's the verdict? And the guy's like, we're going to call tonight's game. It's like what the fuck is that? You know the other thing?
I'm sorry, we're way off. I'm sorry. Grant did it because of his.
So let me say, let me say this before you say what you're going to say, Bart. When I'm Like, quote unquote, hosting this with us, and I'm trying to get through topics and everything. I find the constant interruptions. kind of annoying. When I'm listening to a show with you.
That I'm not part of, I love the sidebars and the nonsense.
So I have to balance between my like, can we get back on topic approach with like this is probably going to be the best stuff.
So just chill out, Paul.
So anyway, go forth. The thing that always fascin Thanks, Paul. That's a compliment, isn't it? I think so. Better than last time.
We used to, the early Horvat days, Horvat would be rolling, and Bart would just screw this. Like, I'm just going to go. Um The the like How do I frame this? There's a whole Middle section of populations in America. How am I trying to?
Basically, what I'm trying to talk about is. How, when you live in a small market, every fucking person gets on TV somehow. Like when you live in the, like, oh, let's go to the director of festivals. That guy's not never on TV. In New York.
Right. And it's like, oh, we need somebody who's. Who's that lawyer that gave us $600 that one month that we would like to get them back on the air? Let's interview him about. you know, and the the political science professor that comes and sits in on election night.
Everybody in a small community. is a T V star. I would call up people that if they lived in a bigger market. Have no business like Never would the T V station call them. I'm just like, hey, are you on a landscaping business?
Can you talk about the drought? Sure. Yeah, okay. Absolutely. Oh, yeah, I was on TV.
It's like being on TV, it is like. Oh, I went to the dentist today. Oh, yeah, I went to the teacher today. Put it this way: the moment comes for us all at some point in your life. That's maybe the best way to think about it.
My favorite, though. is when I was um This happened a year ago. I was walking my kid home. Did I tell you guys this? I think I did.
I was talking to my kid home, and Shorewood had like some. Lead pipe. They want to take out some pipes and they're charging the people and I don't know. TMJ4 is buzzing around. And they caught me in my driveway.
The guy walked up my driveway. To interview you, I don't think I do know this story. He's like, Did you? And I had just gotten this letter that day. He goes, Did you get this letter about lead?
And I'm like. I don't know what you're talking about, sir. Yeah. So, you know, T V horror me. He's always popping up on 58 or 12.
Four comes sniffing around for Just man on the street stuff. I think that would have been funny, but also... I don't know, I didn't want to do a shot in front of my home. Yeah. Isn't really down for that.
No.
So that's all I had to say. That in in local local towns Small towns, everybody The day comes for us all, as Grant says. I was on XOW last May, and the Chiron, the graphic just said attendee. And I'm trying to find the picture, and I'll find it at some point. But the moment comes for us all.
I like that you switched Chiron to like the little thing because you realized. I don't, I mean, is Chiron, is that like a popularly accepted thing? I don't even know what that means. I've just heard Bart say it. I would say lower third.
That's what I would say. I would say CG. What is that? I don't know, it's the CG. Computer graphic?
I don't know. Oh, okay. I didn't even think of that.
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They usually. I think that was worth it, but now let's.
Now, back to the chloroform, as the aforementioned Horvat would say. I want you guys before I ask the topic to guess. where the brewers rank as a team. In a couple categories offensively, okay? I want you to first guess where you think they rank.
I'll tell you, I'll cheat and say it's the same answer. They're the same rank MLB-wise in batting average and in on-base percentage. What rank do you think that is across Major League Baseball? This year's Milwaukee Brewers offense ranks what in batting average and OBP, of which they are the same ranking in both.
Well I don't think it's first. Yeah, I'm the same way. Third. Bam I mean, they got a lot of hits. Would Paul present it this way if they were just like third or fourth?
But would he present it this way if it was just first? He would expect us to guess first. I like that. I kind of want to say 15th. All right, take out like the psychoanalyst, psychoanalysis 15th.
Yeah, I'll guess third. Second. No, why did I get second? God damn it. Why did I get queued and need to back up?
I was trying to discourage you from the psychoanalysis. Where do you think the Brewers rank in MLB and Steels? Not as hot well. Second. Like eighth, ninth, tenth.
Second is correct.
Son of a I, how then?
Well, steel percentage, they're not as high.
Okay, I've not, I did not look up steel percentage, but this is just for me. Um Where do you think the brewers rank? in home runs. Fifteenth. 22nd.
And then Like Is ISO enough of an accepted metric that we can ask about it? Don't know what it is. It's just like every time you get a hit. A single is worth one, a double is worth two, a hundred triple is worth two.
So you're isolated power, your ISO, your isolated power. I'll just tell you, they rate 20. Is that one really necessary? Like, we sacrificed batting average for that. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I get I mentioned batting average.
So By the way, the brewers are 19th in success rate. They attempt a lot, but they actually do kind of suck at stealing business.
So, let me ask you this: if you have it up. Do they lead the league in attempted steals then? They must. If they're second in steals, but 15th in average, they must try the most. See if you can find that.
Attempted steals per game. Tim, if you could please. Yeah, they're second. But they're not actually that good at it. They just do it a lot, is my point.
Which is fine. And by the way, there's even some stuff that they talked about on the broadcast during the national series where. You can do this with base running metrics and stuff, but individually, Going from first to third when most players wouldn't, right? Scoring from second. There's different ways that even this wouldn't account for.
Anyway, they're 26th in ISO, 22nd in home runs, but second on base, second in batting average, and second in steals. This is a very specific type of offense. Right, this is a very For a team that has the best record in baseball, this is interesting. Here's my question. This Brewer's offensive style?
is sustainable. For long term postseason success. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm.
So, a conversation I've been having. with a another brewer's enjoyer. A friend? Um is we are not Happy. with the lack of activity at the trade deadline.
Sure. And A three-game Good old-fashioned Chuck Freeman ass whooping. Oh, yeah. Against the Nationals doesn't Like them doing that to the nationals doesn't justify the lack of activity on Thursday. I don't understand.
I'm going to counter that point, but I don't want to get off topic, but we'll get back to that. What happens like The playoffs come down to who's going to hit the three-run home run in a key spot.
Well, I mean, I would say it historically has. Is baseball now without the shift, you know, with speed being emphasized? Historically, you're right.
Okay. Grant does a good job of maximizing his video. The grant is on. He is he is he has learned from Streaming all of his shows. He's playing for the camera now.
Well, it's got to be what's the point of putting it on video then? It added to the conversation, even though he wasn't. What's the point of putting it on video, Grant? As Bart raises his Z or Mountain Dew. Nah, that's just for the video enjoyers.
I don't, I don't, is it sustainable? I don't think so.
Okay. Mm-mm.
Okay. I think you need power.
Now I also think baseball games The way they're doing it, like... If I took over a team. My first philosophy would be. Always find a way to get the extra bag. Always, always think about it.
Yeah. It's going down on the left. Get get you know, we were out with our kids the other day playing and there was a play at third and the kid starts running to second and I was like You, that was so great. Like, I was so happy. To see that.
After this, I do have a story. From that, but I will wait. Nice. Way to go. Paul, can you set that up one more time?
The overall question? Yeah, just the question. Absolutely. Back to the Q ⁇ A. This Brewer's offensive style is sustainable.
for the postseason. Or mm-mm.
Mm-hmm. But, Paul, you're asking the wrong question. It's been sustained. We're seeing it. We've seen it sustain for three months now.
They have the highest weighted runs created, plus. Let me. Throw another stat at the mix since May 25th. It's sustainable. The question is not: is it sustainable?
The question is: will it work in a three Or a five or a seven game. I guess that's what I mean. Like, is it sustainable for postseason success? Like, okay. I mean, can you be?
A lower Third, Home Run Power Team. While being a Top two. Base stealing, batting average on base team, and win three and win short series. Typically, and I'm completely and totally stealing this from Kurt Hoag, who wrote about this, and then it was in their podcast that came out. They do the micro brew podcast every Monday.
He made the point, and I'll just steal it, that most teams that don't slug. Don't win in the postseason. Yeah. But that's mostly because those offenses typically aren't any good. This Brewers offense is good.
They're just not good at that thing.
So I think we almost have to put them in their own bucket. I don't think we can put them in the same bucket as all of these offenses come up short because those offenses didn't hit home runs. The Bruce don't hit home runs for the most part. But those offenses don't do the things every at bat is competitive. Right, very selective pitch selection.
Right? Zone control, those types of things. The Brewers are a good offense. They're a really good offense. They're just not good at the things that.
Typically, you see from teams that win in the postseason.
So I It's impossible to know, Paul. It's absolutely impossible to know.
Well, let me ask you. But I think this team has a better chance of doing it in the postseason than a typical team with these power numbers, but that's only a small part of their story.
So Let me ask you like the one through ten confidence level. that specifically Specifically, Your confidence that if this offense continues to perform exactly as it is, a bottom third. Power team. a top two overall base stealing and batting average on base team. What's your confidence level?
That In a short series, it works. Specifically, the offense, not winning, not losing, not pitching that bullpen, but just the offense. your confidence one through ten that it will work. offensively. I don't uh I I don't I don't I don't like I don't like questioning the brewers.
Well, I do. I do quite a bit. It's a losing game to question the Brewers. It really is. But right now, it's, yeah, why?
Uh yeah, I didn't like what I Yes, trade deadline. Go get somebody. I'm still going to counter that point. But They're in first place by like two and a half, two games of the whole league. Yeah.
The one year I decided to do standings with my kid, the Bruce helmet sitting on the front. Love it. All season. Like And I didn't think. You know, I overreacted to that Yankees series.
And then the first week, it's like, oh, this team's no good. And then they don't do this. I don't like it. And they don't do this. I don't like it.
That's what's so crazy about this team, they weren't any good. And there's no precedent for a team that was as bad as them in the first month to do what they are doing now.
Now, the difference is like their starting rotation is brand new. A lot of the spots in their order are break. Like, this is a different team. This is not the same team that it was in the first month. That said.
81% of the runs the Brewers gave up In the first, I don't know what it was, like six weeks of the season, were given up by pitchers not on today's roster. Piguero, Pyomps, all those guys, yeah. Kat Cortez. Like I'm so glad he's gone. I never wanted him in the first place.
That was three months ago. That a group of pitchers is giving up. four out of every five runs, pitchers who are no longer on the team. That Can't be like. I don't know.
It's wild.
So, I'm going to say this.
So, wait, so answer the confidence question: one through 10, 10 being you're extremely confident that this can work offensively in a short playoff series against great pitching. Because, Bart, as you talked about in a great interview with Scott Braun. You're going to not see national pitching. You're going to see the best of the best pitching every day in the playoffs.
So. What's your confidence that this offensive style works in a short series against Very good pitching. Should I Hashtag tack on the Scott Braun answer about the Brewers. Hashtag tack it on. It was good.
Or should I save it maybe for a pod later in the week? Hashtag, save it for a pod later in the week. Or hashtag just go listen to my show. Exactly. I mean the interview is I I do a I think maybe I don't I think you can beat a team How the Brewers are playing, you can beat a team that way.
Can you? Can you do it four times? Can you do three? I don't know. The thing is, when you say that, well, can you do it four times?
Four times is nothing. They play a hundred times. Can you do it in a three-game series as opposed to a seven? Does that make a difference?
So, now are we worried about a larger or a smaller sample? That's a great question. There has to be an analytical answer for that. There has to be. Like, does this style more?
I would guess this style more favors a short series. Excuse me. I said the wrong thing. I would guess it favors a longer series.
Well, I would think so too, 'cause the Brewers last year, I mean One Alonzo home run is really all that series came down to. It was three games. And dip shit Pion's not covering first base. I'll say six to seven. If everyone's healthy and Paul, if we're being honest, This Brewers bites at the Apple thing.
If we can go into the postseason every year feeling like a six or seven, it's going to happen at some point. Yeah. Like, I know Brewers fans don't want to hear that. I know. Because they're jaded against the last couple.
I understand, but the idea is you go into every postseason with a six or a seven. And one of these years, it's going to be your year. And I think this year applies. I think it works. I love it.
I totally agree. I'm going to go with like eight. I'm going to go with A. Where does that eventually take them? I don't know, but.
The I again, like, I really enjoy the nerd stats. I like going through all the analysis. But Draft pick? As a as a true as a baseball viewer. The The need for the home run.
being so dependent on it seems more I don't know, like statistically risky to depend upon rather than a bunch of guys who slap singles into right field or, you know, into work center. Like, I'll definitely say this. Actually, let me just ask it as a question. Aside from the Brewers' success, but just purely speaking, watching an MLB game. You would rather watch a team.
You would rather your professional baseball team that you cheer for, that you spend your weekends and your weeknights watching. You would prefer that team. To be a second in batting average, second in on-base team, who's also 22nd. in home runs, but second in steals. You would prefer that style as a viewer.
Compared to a home run hitting team with low on base, low steals, et cetera. You'd rather watch, as a viewer, a fan exclusively, no, I don't think we want to watch a bunch of guys strike out and then. few people just club home runs. That's no fun. I've said this countless times on my show this summer.
If my team is going to be imperfect, I would rather have them the the dream is you do both. Obviously. Yeah. But if my options are be overly reliant on the home run, Or be this, I take this 10 times out of 100. This is a more entertaining product.
Like, are there people that disagree with that? Like, or is this just an overwhelming like 95% are going to say they'd rather watch this? I'm sorry, Paul, to say this. People like you, yeah, there are lots of people that disagree with that. You know what I mean?
Like, I don't do it. What are you talking about? Number huggers. The analysts.
So what you're saying though, and I'm being genuine when I ask this, like the number huggers think this doesn't work?
Well, I don't know about fans, 'cause I think we just I like I wanna see good baseball, but I think intellectuals in and around the game of baseball. Don't like this.
Well, it's well, it's the three true outcomes, right? That's been the thing: strike out, home, run, walk. Everything else is a wasted time. And I would love to go into like someone who's. 20 times smarter on this topic than us, right?
But Wh has the true out has the three true outcomes thing changed? In a post Shift is banned. Pitch clock world. How much has like Maybe there's intellectual articles out there that I could find on this, but that's a curiosity that I have. I'm serious.
I know you. No, no, no. I was laughing at your choice of intellectual there. Not the point that you're making. The point that you're making is an excellent one.
Like a heavily nerded. Article that says, actually, three true outcomes was what you needed. Because think about it: like, if you hit it anywhere near the infield on the ground. With the shift, you're out. Because they knew exactly where to go.
The chances of you having your 5% hit that happened to go where you don't ever usually hit it on the ground. Right. And by the way, this actually goes to another take that Bart's been flirting with on the national show. Which is like Rob Manford's actually been Crushing it?
Well, I I've s I I think I even mentioned Grant's name the other day. If you did, I might have missed the specific call out, but I've heard you talk about it and. The more time goes by, the more it's like, oh, fuck man, Fred, he said some dumb things, like what he called the trophies. You know, he's had some moments. In hindsight, should we really give a shit about that?
No.
He also, though, he is. It's not unintentional. I mean He is going to be the very public face of a very difficult labor negotiation and he is banking Every bit of goodwill that he can until he's spreading some seeds. He's out on the lawn right now, just. Throwing handfuls of grass seed.
He's on Pardon My Take and Pat McAfee. Great visual for those. We do need to remember. But I told my friend the other night because we were watching Sunday Night Baseball and Bryce Harper was up to bat. And they were interviewing.
No, he's at first. They were interviewing him. My buddy's like, they should ask him about cussing out Rob Manfred. And I said, I'm ready to be so anti-union in 2027. I'm ready to blame any slowdown, any stoppage, any shortage, anything.
I'm blaming it on the A-hole players, and I'm gearing up for it two years in advance. Like, I'm just, that's. I said that the owners, I said that. The owners, if they really want a salary cap or floor or whatever, they should just. Take the players.
At their word, and say, We'll do it without you. Scab Any baseball player in AAA, double-A that wants to go to the bigs, scab these guys on the Savannah bananas that. Their heart's not into that. They hate that fucking clown show. Scab these guys from the independent leagues.
and make the baseball play like Don't take the New York Yankees away. Don't take the Milwaukee Brewers. We're going to give you, it's not going to be that good, and it might be a few years. Before it gets like good again, but we're doing this system. You're out.
If you want back in, doors always open. I was flirting with becoming one of those. The other day. Let me actually ask you this. This just raised a thing that I just quickly.
Which is totally. Like, not how I view the world. I'm not anti-union. Let me clarify. I'm anti-that union and them being a real bastard.
I'm anti-no base. I'm a real single little thing. Yeah, anti-no baseball. Here's something I just looked up based on what we were just talking about, because I I think this is really informative.
So, for the stage setting, Bryce Harper is in the middle of a 13-year, $330 million contract. Great job, Bryce Harper, for cussing out the yeah, for daring to bring up you're fucking you are not just fine financially, right? You have. Your great great great great great great grandkids taken care of. What do you think the median?
MLB salary is. Oh, the median's probably eight hundred thousand. What would you guess, Grant? I'm just curious what you'd guess before I say.
Well, my perspective of the world. I think 75 like There, from what I saw, more players in baseball than any other sport are making the minimum. Yeah. Grant, what's your guess? Just curious.
Median salary. I'm so wealthy, it's difficult for me to contextualize this stuff, but I'll say like $850, $900 a year. I would guess less than a million, put it that way. Yeah. So Bart, your second guess was like really close, but either way at 1.35 this year.
But that's you know Yeah. There's a lot of guys doing a lot of work there. And I wonder how much, like a lot of these in baseball, you're a player, you got no freedom for seven years. I mean, you got arbitration, you're under team control. It's damn strange.
We always love the team control. Like some of these guys. Are going to go along with this. Because they don't make enough money to speak out. Yeah.
And it's basically going to turn into It's the owners versus Scott Boris is what this is going to turn into. Yeah. But that's why it's like If you're There are a lot more players making the 800,000. Than there are the generationally wealthy Bryce Harpers. It's not even close.
Oh, yeah. It's not even close. So like Bart, to your point of like the scab thing. If the $10 million per year and more players all set out, The league is still fine. Like, hey, if you made 10 million or under, you're like, I can't miss.
This time you are assuming that players cross picket lines. Is that what you're saying? Like the poors will want to keep playing, yeah. I'm saying like Good for you, Bryce. Like you could retire today, and you are so more than fine financially.
Wasn't that in the passing story? He's like, We'll miss games. And if I was like one of his poor teammates, I'd be like, The fuck, we will. Like, you, I don't want to do that. But I would say, like, now, even in the era of social media, where anyone can put out their own notes app statement anytime they want.
What's to stop a group of $800,000 a year players who probably have a three-year MLB shelf life, and at most are going to walk away from baseball. You know. Post-tax with a $1.2 million. And then, you know, like, that's wonderful. What a great start to life.
But, like, there's a lot more of those than there are. You know, the Bryce Harpers. And so I don't know. I think that's.
Something being investigated further. All of this to say I am I would much rather watch this version of baseball, the Brewers style of baseball. This is very funny. Bringing it back around. Perfect transition from nothing into that.
But. Um Can I tell you my story now? Let me just say this. Let me just say a group of brewers. I'll wait, guys.
I'll wait. Blake Perkins, $800,000. Grant Anderson, Tobias Myers, Bryce Terang, $77,000. Koenig, $776, Ortiz, $776, Freelix, $771. These are all $771,000.
Isaac Collins 761,000, Lockridge 760,000, Siegler 760,000. I mean, The point being, like, these are all like half of the median salary of good players who play. Um But who Do they want to give up a year because fucking like Bryce Harper's $330 million contract doesn't think it's the right thing to do? I don't know. I'm not convinced that that's true.
No, you might never get it back. Look at Yelich. They had a shortened season and it took him three years to get back from it. And they played baseball that year, it was just a shortened season. And you know, go God God God forbid we disrupt the The 365-day year chemistry of these baseball athletes that are, as I don't know if you guys ever heard this, they're creatures of habit, creatures of habit.
Yeah, oh, those. Yeah. By the way, if this is where the baseball conversation Ends between the three of us right now? Like, I don't know. I think that kicked ass.
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Indeed.com slash BWN. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring, indeed, is all you need. Alright, Barr, go ahead. We were playing baseball the other day and um One thing that I have noticed is If you hang out with like A group of kids.
We're like, you know, the kids he goes to school with. Sure. What the fuck? We all know you're a parent. You can continue, but we don't think you're a prince.
Paul, you took all your AirPods and it destroyed the audio. I'm sorry, but can you hear it? Yes. Put them back in. Back in.
It wasn't in. We sound drunk. You sound drunk. Test. Bad.
Try now.
Okay. What I meant to say was I think you're fine. That was fun. What I meant to say was, um I've like accidentally injured other kids. Like I throw a cake, I throw a dodgeball and somebody falls or.
One time I punched a soccer ball. I did punch it this time. And It hit a kid in the face. But then those parents will accidentally injure your kid on the back end sometime.
So we were playing we were we were playing baseball Just like three three dads, three kids. And It was the dad's turn to bat. It was Did you hear that? Paul, you're not hearing that? What?
We We were getting an echo from you, Paul. I'm going to go. It was funny. We found a resolution. Um But there were like a million things that needed to happen for what happened happened.
My son took a rocket to the ankle. Essentially. Mm. But He There was only two of them in the field because We had made a force out and one kid's run didn't count. Mm.
So he was crying. And his day I was off with him trying to help him out. And then there's two kids here and one of the kids is throwing me balls. And he's not coming close.
So then eventually he hits me, so then I take my base. And then another dad picks up a bat And I'm looking at my kid who's like standing on first base with me. And I said, you don't have to be on first base, like cover off of first base. And he goes all the way to shortstop for some reason. And we had like 10 balls.
And they were all soft, squishy wiffle balls, but somehow there was one. like hard baseball And then that's the pitch that the kid threw. This other guy, that's the ball he hit. B lines right towards my kid's ankle. Oh, there's still like a.
It's pretty bad. Yeah. It's smart kid. He put the shift on. He knew exactly where the ball was going to go.
Yeah. There's my kid's ink. Uh. See it? Oh yeah, actually.
I mean, it's like, those are the lasers. That's the basic. Yeah. Took it right there. Granted, I'll one-up you.
Oh, yeah. COVID toe moment. You see any lesions? Remember that? You see any there are no lesions.
All right, that was my story. You got another one.
Now that your kid's doing okay, I assume he's doing okay. That's where the story ends. But it was a long cry session. Thalm to rub some dirt on it. Then I had to do maximum dadding.
At this park, we went to the park off of Lincoln. Or off a No. You sure you want to give away your park location?
Okay, frames. We went. Hampton. We went to the we went to the The swim pool across from Lincoln Park. Sure.
And He's not tall enough to ride the slides, and the lifeguards are all being very dicky about it. I hate that. Yeah. Like, I was a lifeguard. As a former lifeguard, I don't appreciate this commentary.
I was a lifeguard. I didn't want to, I talked as little as possible. These guys, every two minutes, where's the adult? Where are you? Their asses in the jackpot if there's an incident that needs a I I understand that, but I'm there with my kid.
We can go down the slide tube together. Is it a two-person slide? No.
What's the what's the bare d do you know your barefoot height of the little man these days? He's got to be 48 inches. I think he's like 48. 48? Five.
Yeah. You got to be tall. Wow. But all of his buddies were clearing. And there was one kid up there that was 47 inches.
Who the guy looked was below the yellow line, let him go in right in front of my kid.
Now he's crying double hard. Are you telling me that you're a six-year-old? kids friends are all 47, 48 inches tall, barefoot without shoes on. Is this like the first one? Then this is the tallest community I've ever heard of.
He's small. No, Grant, you may not appreciate no, I'm laughing at you saying describing a group of little children as a community. Yeah, but like that's what's funny to me. I have no clue how old Bart's kid is or how tall he's supposed to be. I have no clue.
I'm not considering Shorewood area as the community, but like that's not a normal height. For a six-year-old who's going into kindergarten. It's not. I think it is. I think my s yeah, my son's small.
No, he's not. At 45 inches, bit no. He just turned six. Let me ask my friend Chad GPT. Don't you get the little readout at the doctor's office of where he is on the average hydometer?
What is the average? Height of a six-year-old American boy. Barefoot, not shoes. Oh, you're right. Approximately 42 to 45 inches tall.
Exactly. This is fucking crazy. But he's also the youngest. He's going into kindergarten, though, right? No, he's young in first grade.
That's right. He is young for that's young first grade. That's right. Um But still, but still, you can see with those 47, 48-inch kids.
Well, yeah, they're closer to seven than they are six. But that's still do seven. I bet it's like 43 and a half to 46 to 48. For seven-year-olds? Yeah, this part is not as good as the baseball part.
Shadur Sanders. I just saw that too. Hopefully they're all nine a dynasty league together and We made a trade. A big trade. A fun trade.
Grant, how Greg, how many of the first... 26 picks in this fantasy draft. This is year five. How many of the first 26 picks in this 12 team Fantasy League, Dynasty Football League, do you think I had of the first 26 overall picks in this rookie draft? Probably all of them.
Just one under half. 12 of the first 26. Who went number one in this year's draft? For for fantasy was Genti.
Okay. All right. But for overall fantasy, it's like McCaffrey again or Bijan or j Chase.
So I don't do any redraft leagues. McCaffrey is still going that high. Why? Yeah, he's gonna be good. Can I posit a take I think I think fantasy football is I think it's on its way out.
I Maybe you guys feel differently. I I think fantasy football came to power in an era where group chat capability was limited. And you couldn't gamble on sports. And now I have group chats everywhere, and I can bet on games if I want to, and I don't want to. Let me tell you, let me tell you.
And I tried a fantasy group chat. We only use it once a year to do the draft order. Let me let me tell you I'm already talking to my friends. I don't need another platform on which to Talk with them.
So but you're you're saying that fantasy football missed its window, Grant. It had its winter. Let me tell you another thing that I think missed this window. This is an exclusive take of mine. Aliens from outer space.
I Texas group, this bar take, it's an incredible take and it's playing out before our eyes. Yeah. Can you imagine how big this would have been? Like Bart, is we're like in the grocery store aisles in the mid to late 90s with all of the You know, what what were those type of mega? I came in thinking of the word of the like the You know, the fake magazines with the pictures.
Sydney choirs, thank you. Yeah, I couldn't think of it. It was all fake. Bad boy emerges. Yeah, dude, that's so true.
Grant, you'll have to look back in the archive for some of these. I have to go. Alexis, Nexus. You guys, can you please just spend the next handful of minutes? Shams can't keep getting away with this.
He can't keep getting away with this. You need to take him to task. I'm sorry I can't be here for it, but please, someone needs to. Can we just tack on the. The piece that we did on this the last time he did it, because everything still remains true.
Yeah, what new shams. take do I have to You're still not pronouncing his name correctly, so that's like the biggest revenge that you have against him. What is it? Shoms. Shoms.
Sham's the sham. No, but really. I mean, honestly, like, fuck this guy. It's really... And again, I wanted, I was totally down for like Giannis trades.
And now, like, I told you guys a month ago. They get it. I need, like, I'm so in because I'm so pissed at this idiocy.
Okay. You're just spiting at this point.
Okay. Oh, hell, extremely spiteful. I will make one comment that you can enjoy. Quickly. Then I'm going to listen to the rest on the pod.
Okay, I will make one comment that you can. Goodbye, Paul. Unless you're Are you leaving now? Quick, 10 seconds, hit it. No, later.
Okay, later. I love it. Bye, guys. Goodbye, Paul. What the fuck was up with his audio?
I don't know what that was. That was weird. I thought he was just like, this is going well. Let me change what I'm using to listen and to talk. Yeah.
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Let me just say I'm still wondering. And I'm Sham, so it'll be a story. Because I'm Shams. And I have a hit to do. Hey, can you come on and get up?
I don't have much. I'll DeAaron Fox, but nobody cares about that. That's going to happen later today. Oh, okay. Uh Anything with Giannis?
Yeah, I can I can spitball something. It's not going to be any different than the thing I did two weeks ago. No, no, it's fine. It's fine. That's what's happening.
So I tweeted he must, someone's talking to Shams. I don't think that's the case. I um I it I understand completely that it's content. It's a good segment. I don't understand why it's needed today.
Micah Parsons has requested a trade. Terry McLaurin has requested a trade. We have preseason football going on, training camps, family night. Why was like, you know what we need? How do we shoehorn shit?
If I was Shams, I'd be like, why do you want me on today? Like, there's a figure. Like, no, why? I don't understand. I have a week off.
It's August 4th. Yeah. Was someone else busy? Or I understand that it's a programming thing. I don't understand the programming.
Decision. It's just kind of bizarre. I don't either.
Well, that's my take on that. That's about my take too, and I figured that would be both of our takes. I don't really know what Paul What a complete and total fraud. Just taking advantage of a small market and a fan base that doesn't know any better. Keep doing this.
He needs to be.
Someone needs to sna what do you want me to say, Paul? I mean, there's no accountability. I mean, what happens when Giannis comes back? Nothing's going to happen to him. Nothing's going to happen.
He's just going to be. What is good? And then in five years, Giannis is going to play two seasons. For the nets, and then Sean's gonna be like, I told you. Can't keep getting away with this.
He can't. I mean, I've explained this on my show. We do, the fact that we make all these clips blow up when they're posted probably isn't helping matters. You know what I mean? Like every time that Sean says something, all of Bucks fans pile on, makes him speak.
Or even me saying, why are you doing this? quote tweet.
Well, there it is. My quote tweet said, You'd think he'd get better at saying onto Takumpo. Because every time, Yannis onto Takumpo, like he's he needs a run-up at it for Christ's sake. Like, you talk about this every week. How are you not better at saying it?
I don't know. That's the problem with monetizing content because I've seen so many times where somebody says something that's wrong. And then they're called on and they go, oh yeah, LOL. But then they keep it up and it gets 3 million views because people are saying this is over and over and over. Like, you're not going to take that down if it's going to get engagement money.
Even if it is knowingly wrong. Who cares? Information. Wrong is not a lot rhymes with wrong. You know, I was trying to think of something clever, but It's the end of the pot.
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