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His character is conflated with one of his employees, a driller named Jeff Hart, played in the film by James Brolin. And as you're about to hear, that's all right with business owner and Catholic deacon Greg Hall. You've all heard about it—the Chilean mine rescue. They call it. There's been books written about it.
There's a movie out about it called *The Thirty Three*, where James Brolin plays me, and it's amalgamation of myself and my driller.
Now, I will tell you if you go see the movie, he's much more cranky than I ever was. But I'm going to tell you the backstory that the books don't have, that the movies don't have. Before I start, I want just to take a second. And I want you to think about that person or persons who's most dear to you, and imagine that the phone rings, and the voice on the other end tells you that that person is gone. They don't know where they are.
They don't know if they live or died. They just know they're gone. That was a phone call that went out in August of 2010 in the little bitty mining town in Copiapó, Chile, called San Juan Mine. There had been an earthquake in the mine, and the walls had begun to shake, and the roofs had begun to collapse, and the people had ran for their life. And when the dust settled, there were thirty-three of their brothers, unaccounted for, didn't know where they were.
The phone calls went out to the families. The phone call went out to the government. The government immediately dispatched a team of commandos to go try to find the miners. One intrepid team was able to rappel down a ventilator shaft down to 400 meters before finding the path blocked.
So they knew, if the miners were alive, they were somewhere between 400 meters and 800 meters. That was the deepest shaft ever drilled.
So the government decided to take all the local drilling rigs out there and get them on site and have them start blindly punching holes, hoping to find somebody. The first problem they ran into is all the drilling rigs, and there were nine available. They only carry enough equipment to go 430 meters. That's about as deep as you go for a production hole in Chile. And so they asked what was going on, and the miners told them, "Well, there's a company called Petrolequipo in Antofagasta, Chile, that makes all our equipment, and they supply all our technical people.
Call them. That's my company that I started in 1992." So they called my manager there. I was in Cypress, Texas, at the time. I remember thinking as I heard the plans to rescue them: six months, nine months, a year, and I couldn't sleep at night. Everything I'd try to develop showed it wouldn't work.
All the computer moduling, all the mathematics, everything trying to drill a half a mile through solid granite, a two-foot hole without using liquids—it can't be done. It can't be done.
So I finally told my team, "Well, the only answer: stop doing, stop doing the calculations, and let's go." The technical drilling was even worse than I thought, but there was something else that I didn't realize: the political situation we had got into. You see, President Pinochet was a new president, and they're very powerful people in Chile.
So they quickly decided. If they could have a disaster at the mine, the pineta would fall, and they could take over.
So they visited us, and they offered me as much money as I could have, contracts, anything I wanted, if I would just leave. I was a hero. Go home, gringo. Just let them stay here, but they'll die. Why do you care?
Pineta will fall. And in thinking back of it, I'm no Jesus. But there was Satan showing all the riches of the world.
So I said no, and they said, "Well, you understand that the chances of your failure are very big, and if you fail, you may lose everything. If you kill them, which is a possibility, you may never leave Chile." One day when we were having tremendously tough times, they maneuvered a meeting with all the government where I had to accept full responsibility for the job, or we were finished. And so I did that. And when I walked out, I was very shaken, because what had I gotten myself into? I was lucky that it was time to pray the liturgy of the hours, so I took my liturgy, and I actually went out in the desert, because all it was was desert, to a junkyard.
And I would tell you that I was crying, but I can't because miners we don't we don't cry. But I was crying. But I started to read the liturgy, and I'll never forget it. The first song was Psalm 63: "O God, you are my God; for you I long, for you my soul is thirsting, like pining, like a dry, weary land without water." Man, it just hit me. I thought, you know, that same Holy Spirit's here.
He's with us. We're going to do this because, as Augustine said, right is right even when no one's doing it, and wrong is wrong even when everybody's doing it. We're going to do this.
So I went back there, and I won't tell you that everything went well. It didn't. We fought. The government was coming. The bad guys would come and entice us with different things and different threats, but we kept on going.
By the time I got out there, the drilling had started, and they had chain link fences up, and everybody's faces were pressed. All the families pressed, and they had made a camp called Camp Esperanza, Camp Hope, and they wouldn't leave.
So we started drilling. Five days passed. Eight days passed, ten days passed. Every now and then, we would hit a little cavern and we would send a camera down there, and nothing. We started to think, when do we give up?
When do we quit? But all the families were there, and they held up signs, "Please, don't leave my son down there." And it's funny because when I start talking about it, I actually go back there, and I get emotional. That's just the way it is. I'll try not to be too much, but I can remember the smells, and the people. But anyway, on day 15, we hit a cavern, and we heard tapping on the drill pipe.
All 33 people were alive. They had been rationing. If you go see the movie, it's very good showing the the valiant valor of the miners and their families. They were surviving on almost no food, starting off with a little half a cup of milk and a teaspoon of tuna, cutting it down. On day 10, they cut it in half.
By the time we found them, they had no food left, and they were drinking out of radiators of some machinery that was down there to stay alive. When we found them, so we found them. But as we kept on drilling, one day we were within 100 meters of the miners, and what happened is what all the models showed: we got stuck a final time, and we couldn't get out. Our drill rig was maxed, way over maxed, so over maxed that the drill rig manufacturer had sent their top technician to sleep on the rig with us because I had the I had everything about 200 higher than it was allowed, but. You know, we were doing what we were doing, but we were stuck, and everybody looked at me, and there was nothing that I could do.
We were finished, and when you're stuck, in that kind of drilling, every minute you're stuck, you're worse stuck. It doesn't get better, and we were finished. But I remember thinking, I don't know how it popped into my mind. The Lord works in mysterious ways, but Bartimaeus popped into my mind. Bartimaeus, you remember the blind guy?
I'm thinking, God. Why is Bartimaeus? Can you give me some some lube oil or some redid air or Bartimaeus? But then I started to think about it. You remember the story of Bartimaeus?
He was blind, and he came up and he called Jesus, and Jesus asked him a very simple question: "What do you want me to do?" Whenever I used to read that, I always thought, "What a weird question." If I was Bartimaeus, I said, "What do you think? Take me skiing." I'm blind, but I don't know what do you want me to do. But you know something? It's an important question, and we understand because Jesus had told the apostles when he washed their feet, he said, "I call you friend." And think about what friends do. They talk to each other.
They have relationships. And so Bartimaeus had told him, "I want to see," and Jesus said, "You'll see." So I said it, and I said it very clearly on that drill rig. I said, "Lord, I've done everything I could. I can do nothing else. Those are your kids down there, not just my brothers.
You need to send your angels down, and you need to dig that bed out, or we're finished. And really, they're finished. And I don't know how long I prayed. I don't know if it was twenty minutes or an hour. I have no idea.
Time went crazy." But the bit started to move, and it can't. The bit cannot move. I have given over sixty talks all over the world, and what's funny is when I talk to a secular group, they'll come back and say, "Well, you know, Deacon, you're renowned, whether I am or not. You're renowned in the world as an expert at drilling. Tell me, really, what happened?" I say, "God moved the bit.
You don't know what you're talking about." But God moved that bit, and we went down. And we reached the miners, and we left. We made it. We decided we didn't want to stay around till they came up. We didn't want glory.
We were going home. And as I was leaving, one of the head drilling engineers in South America, he came up to me. He said, "Greg, there's no way you can drill that hole. It's impossible." I said, "Raúl, you're right." He said, "God drilled that hole. God drilled that hole." And I told him, "See, pero yo tenía un asiento muy bueno," which means, "Yeah, but I had a really good seat." And a terrific job on the production, editing, and storytelling by our own Greg Hangler.
You've been listening to business owner and Catholic deacon Greg Hall and his story. And my goodness, that quote from Augustine is just so dead on. Right is right when no one is doing it. Wrong is wrong. When everybody is doing it, the story of Greg Hall.
The story of so much more. Here on our American stories, liberty has never been just a word to we Americans. It has guided every one of our endeavors for the past 250 years, and now it takes form in a new way. The 2026 semi-quintennial coin and medal program from the United States Mint. It celebrates the founding ideals that have long shaped our coinage.
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