Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. Yeah. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at Carn.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Hey everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live on a nice Wednesday here. Today's date is April 22nd, 2026. If you want to give me a call, as usual, easy, just uh Val 877-207-2007.

You can also email me at info at carm.org. Info at CARM.org. From the subject line, radio comment. Radio question. And yesterday I started to work on the first newsletter.

of the year. Um So since my you know my wife passed uh A lot of what she does fell on me. And uh And and plus some other people were doing things and they're not doing stuff.

So uh just more and more my plate. And one of the reasons we've not gotten the newsletter out is because well, I just Just been inundated, buried. But I'm trying to work on it and get it sent out.

So we lost in the conversion, let's just say. Yeah, let's just say this. Yeah, technical stuff, we had a conversion. From one platform to another, and we lost thousands of email addresses, thousands.

So, if you want to get the newsletter from Karn, which is not a big deal, it's just, you know. Just stuff. Then just go to the Carm homepage and where is it on the Carm homepage?

Now that I gotta think about that, I think it's um Yeah, that's right. The newsletter's at the top, the link for the newsletter. And you can go there and you can put your stuff in. Not a big deal, it's easy to do. And that's it.

I think that's about it.

So I'm working on more video stuff and uh Oh, I got so much stuff going, and well, we got a lot to talk about. Let's go to Buskman from Ohio. Busman, welcome. You're on the air, brother. Hey, it's good to talk to you two days in a row, Matt.

This is awesome. I don't need to take the whole hour of you, but thank you so much for all that information on Mormon tabernacles. Of the building structures and everything that goes on in them. I got a different question for you, Matt. I don't know about you, sir.

But April fifteenth just passed by. And should Americans fund the with their tax money, the especially Christians that I mean, we have to separate ourselves from American, regular, you know, non-believing folks, and we, the people who follow Christ. Should we pay our taxes when we know that our money is funding Horrific ventures, business, and even murder, Matt. I would love your take on that, sir. Wow.

We are obligated first in Romans 13 to submit to the government, pay our taxes, and things like that, so we should do that. And when they don't do those things that are ungodly, which is increasing, then we pray in the process of support. And if we can find ways to resist. Lawfully, prayerfully, those ungodly things that they do, then we move that way. But uh the biblical foundation is That we are to support the government.

Now, let's say that the government officially. hypothetically. Uh let's say the government said that uh all Christian churches must approve of homosexuality. Let's just say that's that absurdity occurs, which may not be that absurd. But at that point, then we have to rise up and resist.

and uh because we're to obey God rather than man. And We find ways to make it difficult and things like that. There are ways to do it legally. You can put extensions on taxes. You can do all kinds of things.

There's things you can do. And uh It's a tough call, but the government, our government, has been getting worse and worse, morally speaking. And so how far where do we draw the line? It's a tough one. I don't have a great answer for you.

There you go, Matt. Where do we draw the line? Because. I've been searching the scriptures. I'm kind of active, especially in my local politics here in Ohio, especially in the local.

I like to focus on low because it just seems like everybody's state and higher are just. They say one thing, Matt, and then they don't deliver. You know, when once they've gotten the office that we voted, and they told us, Hey, vote for me, and I'll get this done for you, Bustman. Oh yeah, this is a Democrat. Yeah, the Democrats are the liars, absolutely.

Yeah. We know that. I would love to bring you, but in the eyes of God, I helped one particular guy. who was a Republican, and he did not deliver. Um and it was it was heartbreaking.

Um and it's like, well, who do I trust now, man?

So On, I was reading in the scriptures where Jesus went out and Went fishing and pulled a coin out. Could you talk about that? I mean, what was What did Jesus mean when he pulled the fish out of the water Pulled the coin out and then gave it to the disciples to go give to Caesar. Can you explain that? Yeah, you're supposed to pay your taxes.

Write that out. Pay your taxes. By going fishing, he says, Didn't he say to give unto God what was God's? And give unto Caesar what was Caesar's. Could you elaborate on what Jesus meant by the two differences, the one going to Caesar and the one going to God?

Yeah, you yeah. Two realities we live in: the spiritual and the physical. The spiritual things were to give to God. And the physical things were to give to Caesar, to government. And Jesus was just Uh Telling a slight miracle, got a drachma, two drachmas on the awaz out of the fish, and they paid the taxes.

So that's what we're to do. Or to pay taxes.

Okay. No, it's not by going fishing. That was just absurd, man. I mean, part of that is a joke, but especially when I saw what gets funded here in Ohio. I mean, I don't know if you know, brother, but Ohio passed that horrible Ohio Constitution amendment to kill babies.

And that was, I want to say, two years ago here in the heartland of America, the great state of Ohio. And the other one was issued to That made uh toxic drugs to be legalized called uh marijuana that had been enhanced with Um uh that makes the THD I think that's what it's called, THC, sorry. very powerful and almost deadly. And I fought against both of those men. I can tell you some suspicions how that thing got passed, but I don't have the proof.

Well, that's okay. Let's focus back on. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, look look.

Society has a momentum, and picture a hill with a boulder rolling down a hill. The longer the hill, the longer the time, the more the momentum, and the harder it is to change the momentum. Likewise our society is moving downhill, the momentum is increasing. We Christians need to be praying and ask God to raise up people and to. provide means by which we can slow that momentum down, even change it.

But Christians aren't doing their jobs. They're not underneath praying for the government. They're not pastors and teachers or just teaching comfort service too frequently. And not the warrior aspect that we're to do. You know, the gates of hell will not prevail against the church, the gates don't do anything, they just sit there.

And we're supposed to go attack gates. But too many Christians are taught, you know, pre-trib rapture stuff. Don't worry, we'll get out of it. And Jesus is the blonde-haired, blue-eyed service. My goodness, the pre-tribulation doctrine has been horrible to the movement of, like you said, warriors of Christ.

Sorry to cut you off there, man. Yeah, I had to agree. Yeah, and so this causes problems theologically and practically. And we need to change that attitude. We need to be out there and be warriors for the Lord Jesus Christ.

That's what we need to do. And the ch the churches need to change. The pastors need to change. And they need to start preaching sermons that will encourage activity, not passivity.

Okay? Amen. Could you put flush on that idea, Matt? How does the one listening to Matt Slick Live right now? Um, um, flesh that out.

What can they actually do, sir?

Well, the first thing you do is you start praying because everybody has a different context, different location, different time, different set of gifts.

So, what you do is you start asking God, How can you be used to change things? And let's just say, hypothetically, you're going to a church and your pastor is teaching Mamby-Pamby stuff. You know, you're great, you're wonderful, God loves everybody. Let's go get some coffee. Uh, you know, ask the pastor, can you start preaching about our responsibility as Christians in the world?

And that's one thing to do. You can ask God to tell you what are the Christian responsibilities for us in the world. What are we supposed to do?

So what are Christians supposed to do? in the world. And this is a question that we need We need to ask ourselves, we need to ask a pastor, we need to ask people, we need to discover that, and then we need to become active.

So, uh, you know, it We can do that, and people need to. We're supposed to proclaim the gospel. We're supposed to be salt and light in our Christian salvation. When was the last time, Matt, you got witnessed to by a Christian just walking in Walmart there in Idaho? When was the last time someone approached you and said, Hey, do you know Jesus Christ?

Never. But, you know, that's okay. You know, I wear t-shirts that, you know, like Christos in Greek. I have letelistae. I have various things I'd like to wear.

And I'm usually the one starting conversations because I can recognize the LDS attire and haircut style and everything. I say, hey, and I've done it before talking to people in a group and talking. I say, you guys, Mormons? And they go, yeah, how'd you know? It's just my eyes are trained for cult stuff.

And witnessed. That's so true. But look. People are called to different tasks and different responsibilities and different levels of life. Everybody's not called to be on the radio, and everybody's not called to go out and witness door-to-door.

We ask God what we can do individually, what He can do with us. And we give what we are to Him. And then we go in the direction that God wants us to go in that.

Now the Christians are supposed to glorify God, be salt and light, and we're supposed to suffer faithfully. And we've got to remember, we're living as aliens in a strange world. We are not of this world. We are of the heavenly kingdom. And this mindset needs to be more proper and and regularly taught.

We don't live in this world for comfort. We live in this world to change it to glorify God. And too many Christians are Getty Mamby Pamby crap.

So, you know, look, there's a particular church locally here, and I just got to say this because I'm not going to say which one it was, but I went to it a while back, and the place was packed. and I don't know how many services they had, but it was packed. And I thought this the uh the service was exactly what you want if you want the Christian to be ineffective. And the sermon, I couldn't even tell when the guy opened the Bible and started reading the text. And I'm sitting there going, when's he going to start preaching?

And after 10 minutes, oh, he is preaching. Oh. And I remember looking at the crowd saying, Man, they're getting ripped off. Wow. And so I never forgot that image where I was sitting, what was going on, everything.

And as I walked out, no one talked to me. No one said hello. Wait, I think, if I remember correctly, I think one person on the way out said hi to me. In fact, I was at a church Recently. Where Basically, no one says high.

And just stand in one place. And I wanted, I was talking to somebody, and it was a man who I watched walk out the door. He stood by himself. And I'm watching him and others, but I didn't want to break away and be rude from the people I was talking to with. And then go say hi to him, even though I did, just the second time I've been there in that church this year.

Just checking it out. And I saw this guy just stand there, and nobody said anything to him. For a full minute, he just walks out the door. Wow. Well Because we we that'll make someone want to join the team, won't it?

Oh, yeah. And so the thing is that stuff like that is due to people as Christians being self-centered, not other-centered. If I was a pastor of a church again, which I'd like to be, if everybody could do all the work, I just did the preaching and teaching, that'd be fine. But I would be telling people from the pulpit. Look, we're here not for comfort.

We're here to change the world and to glorify the Lord Jesus. Talk to people, say hi to people. We're going to take classes on how to witness, how to do this, what the theology is, what you know what you're teaching. I'd be doing that, but I permanently believe few people would ever attend. Hey, hold on, buddy, we're gonna break.

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All right, let's get both. I'm working on articles even on the break. Buskman, you still there? I am still here. Matt, thanks for having me back, sir.

Okay. Yeah, so uh Yeah, boom boom. I've said this before on the radio. Um I believe the Christians church overall is failing to do its job. Uh because the Chris the because unfortunately I agree.

Because in America, we see the rise of paganism, the rise of ungodliness, the rise of all kinds of. And one of the things I've noticed. Is this subtle, but I've noticed it more and more and more.

Something as simple as using the Lord's name in vain. I see it more and more prevalent all over the place in videos, in shows, in movies, in series. It's creeping in. Constant misuse and the vain proclamation of God's name without a care. And this is, to me, it's emblematic of what is going wrong with this country.

And symptomatic, I should say. And if we Christians don't step up and start praying and ask to be used of God and sent out into the world, then this country around us is going to collapse. And if it collapses, then Christians will start turning their eyes upward and saying, What should I do now? And that's what's going to happen. That's what I believe.

That's a mic-drop statement, Matt Swift. That is a mic-drop statement.

So let me ask you, brother, why born American Christians do what you said? Why won't they stand up here in 2020? Because the pastors aren't doing their job. It's half.

Okay. Look, it's simple as this. It's simple as this. The pastors are called to equip. Let me read this.

Okay, what's the pastor's job to do? They're supposed to be able to teach and refute error. But this is what it says in Ephesians 4. 11, he gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers.

Now in Greek, it says he gave some as the apostles, some as the prophets, some as the evangelists, and some as the pastors and teachers. And so the implication of the definite article covering both pastors and teachers is the implication seems to be that they're one office. The pastor is by definition a teacher.

Now, I've gone to many churches over the years and I pay attention to what's being said until I get so bored with the sermon I start learning something. I go to my phone and I start going into Greek, I start learning stuff, whatever. Come board.

Okay, that that's me. But the purpose of the pastor teachers is for the equipping of the saints and the work of service to the building of the body of Christ. For the equipping of the saints for the work of service.

Well, what is the work of service? We serve God, we serve our fellow man. We're to love God and love our man, love our neighbor. And so this is not being taught. From what I see in pulpits.

Not that every sermon has to be the same message. It needs to be overall that the pastors are equipping the Christians for the work of ministry. You know, when I go to churches, I never hear any equipping sermons. I never hear anything that really does. That's tragic to me.

I've sensed the same thing here in Ohio, Matt. Yeah, it's bad. And, you know, when I talk like this, I want to be a pastor again. I want, because, in fact, I've been praying that God would open the door for me to be able to preach. Because I love to preach and I love being up there in that pulpit looking at the congregation of God and equipping them and trying to inculcate truth into their hearts and minds by the power of the Word of God.

This is something I want to do, but I don't have a pulpit, I'm not a pastor. I know my pulpit is a radio and it's internet and things like that. And a lot of people are being affected, I've been told, and that's good, you know, for the glory of God. But the pastor, you affect me, brother. And the pastors across the United States sort of changed their attitude.

And what does the Lord Jesus want me to do with the congregation? How does he want me to teach?

Now, some pastors will say, Matt, you know what you're talking about. Yes, I do know what I'm talking about. Because I've seen the fact that most Christians don't know their faith. In fact, when I went to big oh, I could tell you the stuff. I went to Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa, which is where Chuck Smith was preaching at the time.

And that's where I would go to church. And I was in Irvine, California, which was only just, you know, four miles or so from that campus. And I had a A project I needed to do in college and a thesis in my social science degree. And my thesis I tested, turned out to be a wrong thesis. It was completely wrong.

But I got an A in the class because that's what you do. You learn, hey, I'm wrong because of this. That's okay. The process is what they want to grade. But nevertheless, an incidental thing I learned when I asked that church, Big Calvary, we call it, I asked if I could give them a doctrinal survey as a test of my theory and stuff like that.

Long story short, 80% of them were functioning Roman Catholics in the doctrine of salvation. 80%. That's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah, I told the Bible study leader, he was shocked.

He was shocked, but He said, Oh my goodness, we've got to fix this. I said, you know. And I have seen sermon after sermon after sermon after sermon after sermon where moralism is preached. Be good because being good is good. That's not how we are to preach.

When I get up to the pulpit, I preach. Goodness, with Christianity, with carrying crosses like Jesus said in Luke. Yeah. Go ahead, sir, sir. Yes, we're supposed to do that.

And when I get up and I preach, I encourage people to study the Word, and I connect doctrinal things from the scriptures to other doctrinal things so they can start seeing a cognitive map and then say, This is all because of the cross of Jesus Christ. This is why we're to do what we do because of what Jesus did, not because, quote unquote, it's the right thing to do. That's the I get a lot to say about this. Response, Matt, was what? I'm sorry?

What was their response when you delivered that very hard piece of information? I'm not sure I understand the question. When I delivered it to who, what, when, what? Yes, when you delivered it. Oh, maybe it was my mistake, Matt.

I thought you were still in discussion with some of these church leaders. Oh, no. Oh, no. No, I have no pull. No, I have no poll whatsoever with any church leaders.

I'm just a whining, complaining guy named Slick on a radio. No one listens to me. Oh, well. And they, you know, why would they listen to me? Yeah, but I hope that following will get grow you know will grow in number and As a person out here in Ohio listening to you on the radio, Matt, I just want to say to all my fellow brothers and sisters who are really enjoying what Matt does on the radio for us.

You come on, by the way, sir, from 6 to 7 my time. And please support the Matt Slick program or support your radio station that carries Matt because where else do I hear real teaching like this than From this source.

So, you know, I'd rather, to be honest with you, to get you back to my original question to you, brother, I'd rather send you the money that I send to the governor.

Well, you know, people have told me that before, and what I always say is your obligation is legally first, within reason. I mean, if they're asking you to do ungodly things, very ungodly things, you've got to resist. But basically, you are to. I say to people, you first pay your taxes, you do your stuff, your tithes then go to your church. And then, if you have anything left over, then if you want to support us, then support us.

That's what I tell people. I think that's a a nice protocol, but I would lovingly disagree, brother, because when Ohio put that ballot to allow the allowance of killing unborn children, I thought, well, well, Ryan Musk, who who gets Where does my my Ohio tax money go? That will say, yes, kill the baby, kill the unborn before he or she even gets a chance to. Worship God or not, and I'm sorry, man. I have to lovingly push back, and if I can.

What about Acts 5, 29? And I know that this isn't the same context when Peter's. We've got a break. Hold on, buddy. I'll get back to you after the break, okay?

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Right, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Buskman really quickly. Bottom of the hour, still there, buddy. I am, and I'll only take a few more minutes. Just comment on Acts 5:29, Matt, where.

Peter said we don't obey God. We obey, or we don't obey. I'm sorry. reverse that we don't obey man, we're going to obey God. Right, and this is the problem of implementing this.

Now, in the context, what they're talking about there is it's Um you know, not they were telling them not to preach and teach.

So If if the government said we're not allowed to preach and teach, we have to disobey the government. If the government says we have to support homosexuality in our churches and our homes, we have to disobey. We have to disobey. We're obligated to disobey. Ohio meant to support the death of babies.

I'm sorry, which is worth homosexuality. But in Ohio, and I think in other states, they're telling us to support. the death of of unborn children. Yeah, I understand. We are.

This is why we have to. We need somebody. God needs to raise up somebody who has great wisdom on how to apply all these things. That's not me. He needs to raise up.

He needs. It'd be great if God were to raise up people who are quite gifted and anointed in this area to be able to give answers, answers that I can't even begin to approach. But I do know this, that we're called as ministers of the gospel to equip the body of Christ for the work of ministry.

Now, what is that work?

Well, we can get into it, and I'll probably write something on that as well, and add it to my over a thousand list long of questions to do. I know you're a busy man. Yeah, yeah, I'm exhausted too. But um I haven't had a vacation. I was just talking to uh Laura worked in the on at uh works with us.

I can't even tell you the last time. I can't even tell you that last year I took a vacation. I'm not even sure what year. If yeah. Eve, I I can't even tell you.

If it was this decade or last decade, dear brother, especially with you losing your other bride, your helpmate, you need a Sabbath, brother. Everybody write into Matt, say, hey, Matt, take a Sabbath. Yeah, I take Sundays off, but yeah. Anyway, so there you go, and it's a serious problem in the Christian church. There's going to be an apostasy of the Christian church, and the pastors and the teachers are the ones who are going to be held responsible for this.

They're to teach the truth. Unfortunately, we have the rise of Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Islam. We have the rise of Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, false religions. And the truth of the gospel is being buried under heresies, false prophets, false scriptures, false doctrines, etc. And the Christians have the truth.

And what do the Christians do? Go into church and they sit on their hands, get feel-good sermons, hammock theology, mamby-pamby stuff, and that's just not how it's supposed to be. That's why I firmly believe if I was given a church, someone said, Matt, take over this church and preach what you want to preach, I'd say, okay, the church will be empty in six months. Because they're not going to want to hear. That's what I don't.

I believe that. Yeah, I believe it. Going to your church, ma'am, because I know you'd be equipping me and teaching me straight from the Bible and not from some. Internet source that you download your sermons from for $150 a month or whatever, including the slides and the music for your worship team.

So um I would go to your church meeting. Yeah, be along commute. Oh, well, there you go, buddy. Oh, I moved to Idaho. That is quite a drive.

But you would be worth it. I mean, the people in Rwanda crawl to their tent of meeting under the the fire of of extremist Islamic killers and they still go to church. Praise be to God, just to look at the little bit of scriptures that they have in their hands, and it's actual Bible.

So, I don't know, man. Maybe I'd get on a plane every other Sunday to come see you because I know that the. airfare would get a little taxing on me. But but thank you so much, Matt. I don't want to take the show.

You are awesome, and I'd just love to pick your brain. And thank you for all the scholarly work you do for in Carm, Carm.org. I've known you, I think I told you. I've loved you ever since the late nineties, early two thousands when I myself was a youth minister. And I wanted to make sure that I got the kids good, solid biblical teaching and use one of my resources, sir.

Well good. Praise God. Praise God, praise God. All right. Thanks, man.

I appreciate your time, brother. All right, man. God bless.

Alright, now let's turn to Cody from Texas. Cody, welcome. You're on the air. Hey Matt, I kind of posted my questions in chat to try to give you a heads up.

So, one of my questions is. When Paul gives a list in 1 Corinthians about who will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, right? He lists all sorts of things, uh, homosexuals, and then he says the effeminate. Mm-hmm. Can you define what that means?

And what was the intended at the time? 619. Good question. Oh, it's first for the sixth night. Uh six nine.

Oh that I was losing it. Um Okay, so the effeminate is uh And it means effeminate. I'm looking at a good question. I haven't been asked that before, so let me go. It's Malak Malakas.

Soft to the touch, spoken of clothing made of soft materials for texture. Figuratively, it means effeminate or a person who allows himself to be. Uh I gotta be careful how I say the next words. Uh There might be children around, in a not wholesome, in a perverse way of allowing his flesh to be used. And so uh That is uh It's it's a perversion of the male becoming effeminate, wearing women's clothing, behaving in a feminine sense, and things like this, and the things that go along with it.

Okay. So I've heard that before. Does that include uh a male not doing his biblical roles of Or developing yourself as a protector and provider? No, it's not that. It's uh Uh It's not.

It's related to arsenicoitas, which is the word for homosexual, but that arsenicuitas means a man better.

So it's dealing with the uh the uh the sexual uh area in categories. And the perverse is a very interesting. Yeah, they would kinda seem redundant though if he uh you know, immediately listed homosexual after that. Yeah, it's not redundant, but I hear what you're saying. It's similar.

So he's grouping concepts and ideas together. Uh Let's write this down in 1 Corinthians.

Well, men rejecting their natural roles as men? But uh y yeah, we could broadly say that. Uh But men are generally protectors, providers. And we're to generally work towards that. It doesn't mean that if a man's not providing and protecting, he's not a good man.

Everybody has their circumstances. You have people who are not healthy and financially destitute because of things beyond their control. And we get this. But. We are to be men who Oh.

We stand tall. We stand against the onslaughts of evil that come on. We know our place in our gender roles, and we stand. Strong in them as we follow the example that Christ Himself has laid before us. We're not to be feminine, men are not to be feminine.

They are to be strong, but they're not to be abusive. They're not to be feminine. We are not guys aren't supposed to get in touch with their feminine self. That's a lot of crap. Uh It's we we just that's not it.

We are supposed to be strong as men. But yet also servants and also loving and patient and kind as much as we can. But we fail fail because we fail in our strengths as well as our weaknesses, and a lot of times what we do is we just don't do things properly. And just as women don't do things properly all the time either. But anyway, so the effeminate thing here has to deal with the issue of Not being masculine and leaning towards the effeminate side of things, behaving that way.

It doesn't imply necessarily homosexuality, but it can certainly be connected to it. And stuff. I'll just leave it there because, you know, too many children might be listening. Sure, of course. Yeah, of course.

And because when you started describing, that's what I was trying to. figure things out because whenever you started describing You started kind of Leaning towards the things that I was talking about, and like, but I was wondering. Like uh because nobody like the church is afraid to d to find those things now. Oh, I wouldn't be. Oh, man.

Do you know? I know you. I was up in a pulpit, man. I tell people stuff. This is what the Bible says.

You know, I tell them. I do it, you know, lovingly and patiently, but when it's time to to speak of. I said this is what the Bible says. I've even said to people in p sermons back in Southern California. I've actually said, look, I'm going to teach you something, et cetera, et cetera.

Gone through the taught the Word of God. And I said, now, just as a follow-up on the sermon before I close from prayer, I'd say, if any of you didn't like what I said and didn't approve of what was said according to the Scriptures, come up to me afterwards and I'll tell you which verses you can go to to mark them out of your Bible so they don't bother you anymore. I've said that before. Yeah. So I'm I'm gonna push you now.

I'm gonna put you on the spot.

So what would you say the Bible says collectively are feminine traits that men should not emulate. That one I'm going to Going to balk on because I would. Need to justify my answer out of scripture, and I don't have those in my top of my head, except to generically say the woman's to be a helpmate, the man is to be the provider-protector. Generically, but that's a good question, though. All right, buddy?

Yeah, it's becoming a hot issue right now. But I get another one.

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Oh Robbie, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Cody from Texas. You still there? Yeah, man.

Okay. So the whole question was whenever Yeah, I kind of posted it in the Rumble chat. But to kinda give you a heads up, so if you need to look something up, but uh the uh So everybody get on Rumble, by the way. It's a great group there. Um Anyways, my question was: whenever Jesus says, if you look at a woman with lust, you commit adultery in your heart.

Right. I was debating with a guy the other night on TikTok. He was talking about divorce. And we kind of uh deviated like, you know, biblical divorce, how that looks, whatever. And then we kind of deviated off and he was talking about like clearly there's a difference between fornication and adultery.

I my position was that adultery was having relations with someone who is not your spouse I know the common definition is someone who is married. Adultery just engaging. Right. Engaging with. Yeah, okay.

So why is that included in the Penateuch, like in the Ten Commandments in regards to like everybody always goes to that for any kind of sexual immorality. I don't understand the question. Why isn't fornication included in the Ten Commandments? No, well, yeah, I mean, obviously, like, that that's a thing I've heard a lot of people refer back to.

Well, um, so my question is, okay, so my question is. Uh why is why is Fornication, not. Why is it d do people preach that it it is included like all sexual ma morality is Is lumped into the do not commit adultery command in the Ten Commandments. Ten Commandments is not supposed to be an exhaustive list of every moral, everything with every subcategory in there. It's giving a generic thing, don't commit adultery.

It's talking about the sexual purity within marriage, not to violate that. Fornication, of course, has ultimately included that because it's dealing with the sexual nature, and it's only supposed to be in marriage.

So that's just a general Ten Commandments things. That's all it is.

Okay. Yeah, see, that's where he was kind of disagreeing because he was like, no, it's just that. And I'm like, it's just what?

Well, I understand it's a different thing. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Is he saying it's just adultery he's talking about? No, I mean, he wasn't arguing for fornication. He was just saying that that's not included in, like, that is not an.

While you just said it's not an exhaustive list. Correct. Of all the subcategories under adultery and the Ten Commandments. Yeah, and everybody always says that's all-inclusive of sexual immorality in general. It's yeah, you're right.

He's right. It's not specifically mentioned there. But the Ten Commandments deals with sexual purity. But we have De Deuteronomy 22, etc., we have warnings against fornication.

So. Anyway, okay. All right. There's that, too.

So I guess, and I had another question about that specific verse, too, in regards to adultery of the heart. Wh when is it when does it become sin?

So, when it says when you ask when does it become sin, it becomes a very difficult question to answer. When does each individual's thought life become sinful? I can't tell you. But I can tell you that you're supposed to be pure in your heart heart and your mind. And that you're not supposed to be thinking things that, if they were actualized, would be sinful.

And that's the general rule. If you're thinking something that, of course, is not good in real life. then what you're thinking is evil and and needs to be stopped.

Okay. Yeah, so I mean So you're basically saying that It becomes simple when you start thinking about that person, being intimate with that person. Yeah, as soon as you've done that, that is evil. You need to stop. But but being physically attracted to them is not.

No, no, being you know like if you Like, if you s like, you know, I've seen pretty women, my wife was pretty, and I see pretty women.

Okay, they're pretty, that's nice.

So, what? That's as far as it goes. Just like she would see a handsome guy, and okay, yeah, so just notice that someone has that quality in the feature, that's as far as it goes. And that's okay. Yeah, and all I'm wanting to know is what the definition, the biblical definition of lust would be in that text.

It's when you're starting to desire and act upon that desire in your own heart and mind. All right. And attraction is not evil.

So if what you do with it Okay. All right. Perfect. Thank you, sir.

Alright, buddy, God bless. What are you doing?

Okay. Let's get to Oscar from New York. Oscar, welcome. You're on the air. Yes, but I think it's a very good idea.

I love it.

Okay. What are the signs of a false profit? Oh, a false prophet would be anybody who says they're a prophet after John the Baptist because for one thing, Jesus said that there was no prophet after John in Luke 16. 16, 16. Yeah, the law and the prophets were until John, John the Baptist.

There are no more prophets. That'd be one quick criteria. Another one is they make false prophecies, like Joseph Smith did. Mormons is a false prophet. The Jehovah's Witness Organization claimed to be the prophet of God.

They made false prophets, made false prophecies, also a false prophet. Another characteristic of a false prophet would be teaching a false God, teaching a false gospel.

So, Mormonism teaches that God is an exalted man from another world. You know, it's false. Jehovah's Witnesses deny the Trinity. That's a false God.

So, their prophethood is invalidated by that.

So, there's many signs like that that would designate. or demonstrate the signs of a false prophet. Oh, okay, thank you.

So, in a sense, we really don't have profits today. In the sense of the biblical definition of what a prophet is in the Old Testament sense, there aren't any more.

Now, when if I go to the verse. to explore a little bit more. Luke 16, 16. The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached.

Now, the law and the prophets was a division of the Old Testament. The law of the first five books, and the prophets were the rest of the books. It was just a division. The Old Testament was proclaimed until John.

So inside the Old Testament was the issue of Profits who spoke directly from God and would write Scripture. That was until the person of Christ because they're subservient to the person of Christ. And so There aren't any more of those prophets. We have New Testament prophets in 1 Corinthians 14 in the sense that, as a charismatic gift, they might speak something that was, and there's different definitions of this and interpretations, but one is a prophetic nature, as in predicting a future event. The other one is proclamation of the truth of God's Word.

So, this is the issue.

So, there's no more prophets, okay? And I always use Joseph Smith as a good example of this because he claimed to be a prophet of God and that God appeared in God the Father. And so, a false prophet will also contradict Scripture.

So, for example, Joseph Smith said he saw God the Father, and 1 Timothy 6:16 says, The Father dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. You can't.

So He's a false prophet. He contradicts scripture. It's it.

So there's lots of characteristics that define what a false prophet would be, and that'd be one of them.

Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay.

Bye-bye. Sure. No problem. All right, now let's get to Bob from California. Bob, welcome.

You're on the air. Hi, Matt. How are you? Oh Overworked, tired, whiny. A little whiny today, I think.

Other than that, I'm okay. Yeah, we're gonna be able to do that. Questions to do with the 144,000 Jews in the book of Revelation. Do you think that they are literal one hundred and forty four thousand Jews or are they symbolic of About you and Jenki. What do you think?

My opinion is: since it says they're for the 12 tribes, That there's 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes, they have the father's name written on their hearts, etc.

So, therefore, I lean towards the view that they are ethnic Israel, ethnic Jews.

Now, that doesn't mean that my view's correct. There are different views. Uh one is that uh it's a symbolic uh A symbolic reference to the number of the elect, the ones chosen by God. And that's a legitimate view as well.

So Okay, you know.

Now, the reason I ask because when you read the passage, it says that when John speaks of the 144,000, He doesn't see them. He says rather he says that he beheld and law a great multitude.

So the great multitude he sees, but he doesn't see the 144,000.

Okay. So um just wonder what your view is on that.

Well, he saw a multitude. If the multitude is comprised of the 144,000, then he would have seen the 144,000.

Okay. He says he saw four angels, four corners, holding back the four winds.

So this is symbolic, obviously. He saw another angel descending from the rising of the sun. Don't harm the sea. I heard a number of those who were sealed, 144,000 sealed for every tribe. And of the sons of Israel.

So this is, even though I'm all millennial, a lot of the all-millennialists will hold to the view that it's symbolic of the elect, which is fine. I don't lean that way because it says of Israel. And specifically it has tribes of Israel.

So I believe there are literally 12,000 from the tribes, partly because God says in Romans 11, 25, 26, he says God's not done with Israel yet.

Okay. Okay, all righty. Yeah. That's a mouthful. Oh, yeah, yeah, there's a lot there.

Yep.

Okay. Okay, well thanks a lot, Matt. Appreciate it.

Okay, you too. God bless.

All right. You too. Bye-bye. All right, okay, we've got about three minutes left in the show. Oh man.

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