Spring into deals for seasonal savings. Shop select One Pine Annuals for just $1. Plus, get a free additional Cobalt 40V 2A battery when you buy a Select Cobalt 40V Trimmer and Blower Combo Kit. Our best lineup is here at Lowe's. Lows, we help you save.
Validate 5-6. Annuals offer excludes Alaska and Hawaii. Visit your nearby Lowe's on East 17th Avenue in Hutchinson. The following program is sponsored by What's Right, What's Left Ministries and is responsible for its content. Portions of the following program may be pre-recorded.
I am Pastor Ernie Sanders, the voice of the Christian Resistance. Stay tuned. My radio broadcast, What's Right, What's Left is coming up right now. Coming to you live from Independence, Ohio. Changed our life for the better in many different ways.
Heard around the world every Monday through Friday. Castor Sanders is always years ahead of the rest of the media, telling you exactly what they're covering up. This is What's Right, What's Left. I tune in every chance I get to hear exactly what's going on with the voice of the Christian resistance. Unabashedly cutting through the rhetoric by exposing the hard topics facing our society and world.
A lot of the other news medias don't pick up the news items like he does. And bringing to light the enemies of freedom who are out to steal your rights, your children, and enslaving you. You really get the truth out. I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you.
This is What's Right, What's Left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left the Voice. of the Christian resistance. On this twenty seventh day of April. twenty twenty six.
And uh to night Well, is is he here yet? Hello? Who's that? Joe, Pastor Joe.
Okay, there you go. I didn't hear you. Are you there, Joe? I sure am ready to go to work. All right, there you go.
Pastor Joe Larson, a Missouri Parson, and tonight. Once again he has won the right. to he beat out the competition to produce this program. And ask Josh Blunt. Hey, Josh.
Hey, how's it going?
Okay, we'll find out in a minute, I guess. All righty. I was waiting for you to intro, Pastor Joe. Oh, okay. Let's uh Let's get started tonight.
We got a lot to talk about tonight, a whole lot, and so. W the title of the message was I will never, never leave thee. I will never, never leave thee. And we're going to start tonight in Hebrews chapter 13. Verses five and six.
You ready to go, Joe?
Alright. Sir N. Hebrews 13. And we start with verse five. Let your conversation Be without I was missing.
and be content with such things as ye have, For he hath said, I will never leave thee nor forsake thee.
So that we may Oh, stop go ahead and stop there? No, no, no, go, I'm sorry, go ahead. Read the next verse. boldly say, The Lord is my helper. And I will not fear what man shall do unto me.
All right, very good. Let your conversation that word conversation, you know, i in the English is translated into English. uh different meanings of the Hebrew and the Greek and Here, you know, and this is is the same word means manner of life. Let your manner of life. be without covetousness.
Not talking when we use the word conversation it's you know, we'll be having that, you know, Uh A back and forth. Dialogue back and forth, but here it it refers to having a manner of life. In other places, actually. talks about your your residence, where you live. And here Well, isn't that also your world view?
Your manner of life really is controlled and guided by your worldview. You and I have a Christian conservative constitutional worldview. And those three words in our worldview should tell somebody almost everything about us that's i important. Absolutely. But here the author and I believe the author of the book Hebrews was Paul.
I b I believe that Pauline's signature is all over this book. Um but here uh for a lot of reasons, but When he says, I will never leave thee nor forsake thee. He's actually quoting Deuteronomy 31 verse 6, but With one difference, there he says, I will never, never leave thee. and so he uses it twice there, but It's an interesting thing because There's only See, Joe, you and I cannot We can But we can never guarantee it. The only one that can guarantee that Was the Lord Himself.
Remember Peter? said I would I would uh die, I would defend, I would never, ever Ah, deny you I would never deny you, right? Do you think he meant it when he said it? I think he at the time believed it. And so, but we really don't.
I mean, we may have the best meetings. For example, the Uh, you know, you You could tell your You know, you can tell your wife I'll be home in thirty minutes and then What happens? You run off the road, you get stuck? Uh and Two hours later, you're still there. You're not home, right?
You're meant to be home data. And, you know, you had might be times where Uh You know, something very serious. It might be a very serious situation where. You you've you've gone for help. and you may have your comrades back there waiting on you to return uh something comes up and you can't take it and so The only one that can absolutely positively say this Uh and without Without doubt.
Without um Can fulfill that as the Lord Himself. He's the only one that's. That's totally wi with unlimited power, huh? Amen to that. But there's also another point there.
Peter also hadn't had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit yet. And he was pretty much on his own and all of a sudden when uh Uh you know, faced with the possibility that he would be put to death too. He didn't have anything to give him the courage he needed. Uh that Courage later comes in scripture. When he stands up and confesses Christ, and knowing that this time he may be put to death.
He does it boldly. to the uh Sanhedrin. And it's interesting because You are a different, a new creature, a new creation when you're filled with the Holy Spirit. you have you can't be perfect, but you do have more power, more strength, more courage. when you have the Holy Spirit.
Well, that brings you to the next verse.
so that we may boldly say, The Lord is our helper, and I will not fear. What man shall do unto me? Can man do anything unto us that the Lord cannot undo? No, well, man could put us to death, but. Christ can resurrection, well, he will be taken to heaven.
and uh at some point resurrected uh spiritually and physically at the time of the rapture.
So Anything man can do can be undone, yes.
Okay. I want to take you because the theme of this uh this message here. I want to take you over Uh Second. to uh first john chapter two First John chapter two And just and read just one verse. And and during go ahead, verse nineteen.
They went out from us. but they were not of us For if they had been of us They would no doubt. have continued with us But they went out. that they might be made manifest that they were not all. of us.
As I go through this this week, this Bible study, I'm going to show you several applications of that in Scripture here. And so Uh but first I'm going to do some some commentary. And Uh it it had to do with Uh recently, just this, you know, past week, A number of people have come and reminded me of some things that happened in our church. about three or four years ago. And here Uh one of the the church members came to me one day and asked if he could have a private meeting.
Yeah, the said he had something very important uh he'd like to discuss and I said sure thing, I do you know, that's what I do. I'm there often. uh you know, listening to it's part of Today, being a pastor, you know, you're a pastor, you're a counselor, you know. You you marry people, you bury people, You baptize people. Uh but a big, big, big part of being a pastor is You know, listening to people's problems and trying to take them to where the actual answers lie, and the answer actually lies right there in the Word of God.
I mean it kinda works this way. Um Man has a lot of problems and very few answers, and God has. All the answers and no problems. And so that's why we cut we try to take them to the Word of God. uh which covers just about every part of life, okay?
And so but anyhow in that meeting This man was telling me how he had How Um My blessed he had been being uh in the church for the last A few years how much he'd learned in our church and and From that time This guy was always more than helpful. He was more than a s had it's uh what appeared to be more than a servant's attitude. But there was always just something that wasn't quite right, okay? Do you know how sometimes You feel somebody seems to be trying too hard to please you about some things. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah. Uh like too hard to gain gain your trust. I There was something that I was And something in that background that Not quite right. Yeah. But anyhow He told me, he said, but I've learned a lot.
You've been a a great mentor here and you know helped me. But I feel that the Lord is telling me it's time for me to move on again. And, you know, before he'd come to us, he'd been to several other churches. And uh He says so. I just want to tell you that It's nothing personal that I I have to leave, but And I said, Well, you know, make sure, first of all, that you're hearing from the Lord, that the Lord's talking to you.
You come to the conclusion for a fact, then, You got to obey God. I mean, that's the one thing that demands from Genesis to Revelation uh is obedience. And I said if that's if you absolutely can s you know, feel that way Then you have to do the what God tells you. But Here What had happened is Right around the same time he came, a number of other people showed up, several other new people. I would say a half a dozen.
Uh new people showed up right about the same time. And They were there. During that time. And then When he left He took a number of these people with him. They left with him.
And then I I started getting phone calls, um From different church members uh in the church. Uh This individual and others had called and asked them to if they would come with them and leave they wanted to go to a new church that had started. Uh Uh one another Church that was similar to ours, okay, in in beliefs and everything. Uh but it was new and uh They were actually calling around and trying to get people to leave our church. Why do you think That would be People would do such a thing like that.
What do you think, Joe? I mean obviously Uh the devil if i you know, if you're If you're in compliance with the devil, if you're one of those churches that just, you know. Are neo-evangelical don't really do anything, don't do anything to step on the devil's foot. You know, you concentrate on taking cruises or. building projects and I mean, you don't go out and you don't Uh really Become a doer of the word.
In our church Joe. You know, in the area we've let up Over the years we've saved been part of saving over 24,000 babies. from abortion. We We led the area i in Ohio for years going all the way back to the very start. Um if the pro-life We were the one For a while, the only strictly pro-life radio program on the air.
Now we got others, but back in those days, we were it. But our our church was the church, uh especially in the Cleveland area, that was on the streets weekly saving babies. I mean, we had We were the doers of the word. A lot of those men who and women That were with us in the beginning, going back to the 70s, have gone home to be with the Lord. Many of them have gone home to be with the Lord.
But we stood, and Joe Uh w we were the only ones, our church, that stood up. when you had corrupt judicial, corrupt judges that were crooked, We knew head. Um pol corrupt police that were on the take were taking bribes We exposed them. We never uh we never backed it down. I I went into their courtrooms when they were when they were mistreating our people.
unjustly. We stood up to him. Do you know why we stood up to him? Because we believed God's Word, really believed the Word of God. And we did stand up to him.
You know, it costs us, you know, uh But we but we did the right thing, and I can honestly say, Joe, and you know you've been with us for a long time. In all of these years, and fifty years, We've never compromised. Not one time did we we never stood down, we've never backed down. we stood boldly The Bible teaches from Genesis to Revelation, from Genesis to Revelation. that resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
And we did that. stood our ground, We didn't back down.
Okay. But anyhow And then and other ways too. That was the only way that the enemy was attacking us. Lord knows how he attacked us on the radio over the years. Uh I mean I mean things that actually went into the realm of supernatural things that have happened to us.
over the years and uh And so why should Did that happen?
Well, it must be because we were stepping on the devil's toes, huh?
Okay. And The uh the doers of the word stepping on toes, kicking him in the shin and uh just the fact that being outspoken. Um This ministry, you and I both uh when we're working when we work together No matter what, we've called out cultural Marxism, Fabian Socialism. all of the different world view evils and what's wrong with them and uh what's behind it. And it's always put the truth We've always put the truth first.
That solution because God, you know, God cannot lie, and we look at His book. Yeah, a lot. What's the most prevalent thing in the world? Lies. The enemy always, always deals in lies.
And so uh We've tried our very best to always present the truth uh even on something that's not covered in scripture We found it in and just researching, looking at what the enemy does versus what they send. and pointed out those lies.
So that's what we're supposed to do, right?
Well, that's what we did and if you remember when We did that when when Rick Warren came out. And with a purpose-driven life, I mean, this was just unbelievable. People were falling for that. We were the first people out there. Uh to come and expose that.
And boy, I had all kinds of people pet you know, 'cause this was a popular movement. And boy, people. It was fair. Yeah. There were because people were going to these Bible studies, and oh, you don't need to bring your Bible.
We're going to, you know, work out a Rick Warren's. And it was like. That's the first time I think I heard about it.
Somebody invited my wife to go into a study. Oh, there's something new out there, and oh, you don't need to bring your Bible. And it was like, Harriet goes, What? Joel. They want me to go somewhere and said, Don't bring your Bible.
And I said, I don't know anything about it, but don't go. If they tell you they're going to use anything other than your King James Bible, stay home. And shortly after that, then We started looking at what was going on. He had a business model, a plan. Uh nothing about him was real.
It was all fake, phony, and uh Really antichrist.
Well, he was, and if you remember Um there was one other fellow that was w with that was s staunch with us, that stood with us. In fact, actually, He was probably Uh ladiness. And that was Noah Hutchins. Noah remembers. He helped teach us himself.
He helped teach us more than we knew. Yeah, I remember. When that happened He had called me and he said, What do you know about this about Rick Warren? I said, What I know is I don't like it and he said, Yeah.
Well, he said, Do you know They're doing that in in my own church They're trying to take his own church that he was attending, okay? And uh what happened what they would do is they would Rick Ward would call pastors Uh invite him down to a a big luxurious weekend. with all the trimmings and put em up and everything. And then they would tell them, Don't tell your congregations where you're going. And then when he was there, one of the things he would tell him that In order to, and this is when the big movement in body count theology came in.
Where you wanted to get as many people. It was all about how many people you could get in the door and how many money much money in the plate. And so He was telling em telling these pastors In order to grow the church, you've got to have change. And change can can hurt, sometimes can be pain, and Uh he was telling him to What they had to do is they had to get rid of the founders of the church, the people that started the church, the elders in there. And And and what and the way you did that was you had to Go back, get the get your the little people, your inner circle, whoever you could trust.
have a church meeting. Um And then vote those out, you know, make it According to George Take get yourself a lawyer and then vote those other people out of the church, and he And they were doing that. They did that to some churches in our area. And so Then he said, and you've got to first of all get rid of the hymnals. Get rid of those hemlocks.
You gotta get rid of all of that. Use his book. You don't need the Bible. You've got his book, the Purpose-Driven Church Book. Um It's like the Book of Mormon.
You don't need the Bible, you got the Book of Mormon. Yeah, well then But listen, what what amazed me was how many pastors were falling for this, Joe. And one day I attended a pastor's meeting, and there were a number of pastors, and these guys were friends of mine. I looked. and they had his purpose driven books there.
I said, W have you guys lost your mind? I mean, have you read this thing? You know, and Of course, the one question that came up right away If God's not in it, why is it prospering? And my answer to them was, you know, well, Uh if God's not in it, why is Hugh Hefner prospering in Playboy, right? And uh of course they they didn't have an answer for that.
But then, shortly after more and more stuff started coming up 'cause I was I took his book. And Noah, we took it from everyone. We went through his book live on the air. We showed people. These are not, you know, at first, when I read the book the first time, I said, Here's an error, here's an error.
Because a couple came to me. And They came in and they were arguing. And I said, What's going on? And they said, Pastor, we want you to help us here settle this. Because now that you know, the the the strange thing usually is The enemy attacks the women in area discernment.
But in this case it was just the opposite because the the couple came in He was he was all for this, and she said, Pastor, I can't lay my I figure, but there's something about this book, it just all feels wrong. It's just and uh and would you please take a look? The very first thing they asked you to do, Joe, is uh swear an oath, go into us uh and swear an oath with with uh find a stranger. Find a stranger and swear an oath between you, that stranger, and Rick Warren.
So that's the first thing he he asked you to do.
Well, what's the Bible tell you about swearing an oath? He tells you in Matthew five and also in the first John, That to swear you don't swear an oath, okay? Let your yay be yea and your nay be nay. Period.
Well, you know, he when he came out, you gotta remember, he called this it was gonna be a church movement. like uh well he called it a new reformation It's going to be one of the greatest paradigm shifts in church government type of thing. And uh Good. The interesting thing was that I reached over in my library the dark the dark side of the purpose-driven church by oh Noah Hutchings. And I remember you and I doing this.
There were five The basic fundamental to the Christian faith, and I remember you and I did this on the radio. And He object you know, he objected. The first was the inherency and full authority of the Bible. He didn't go along with that. the virgin birth and full beauty of Jesus Christ.
He denied death. the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. Christ atoning vicarious deaths for the sins of the world. Nope. And the literal second coming of Jesus Christ.
So if you deny the five basic fundamentals of the Christian faith, You're not Christian. Period.
End of story, right? Right. You deny those, you cannot be a Christian.
Now, remember. We did a uh Oh, what's his name? Um Barna, George Barna, had a survey. He had. talk to thousands of pastors.
And he found out that it was like forty eight or forty nine percent of these thousands of pastors he interviewed didn't believe Two or more of the basic of these five basic fundamentals of the Christian Church. Which tells me that that means that about 49% of the people that call themselves pastors. claim to be the head of a church are not even Christian. 'Cause if you don't believe two or more of those five basic tenets, Just like uh Rick Warren, you're not even Christian. I'm sorry, it was kind of an easy for me, it was an easy answer.
Having it just in those pastors, what do you mean, Rick Warren? If if they had any I was new. I was newer than a lot of these pastors, but I mean, that was the basic.
Well, yeah, everything. You deny that, you deny the whole thing. Hold tight, we'll be back right after this. Um Read his words. Words heed his signs You see, these are the times.
Earthquakes, famines, and pestilence are all on the rise. The love of man. Is waxy cold. Just like the way that he foretold. With all these things now happening before our eyes.
Can't you feel? The kingdom coming. Can't you sense? The new Day dawning, rising like the morning sun, with healing in his wings. Rid up your minds to be believing, prepare your hearts to be receiving the soon to be returning, Lord of Lords and King of kings when he comes in the clouds.
Each and every knee shall bow, every ear shall hear him, every eye shall see. His trump will sound. Is fire a wooflock? As lightning shines from east to the east. West, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
Can't you feel? The kingdom coming, can't you sense a new day dawning? Rising like the morning. And with healing in his way. Get up your mind.
To be believing, prepare your hearts to be receiving the soon-to-be returning Lord of Lords and King of kings, our Savior. pure and deliver and redeem The Messiah. Jesus Christ, El Shaddai, Yahshua, Hallelujah. Can't you feel the king? I'm coming.
Can't you sense a new Day dawning, rising like the morning sun with Healing in his wings. Grid up your minds to be believing. Prepare your hearts to be receiving. The soon-to-be returning Lord of Lords and King of kings and Lord of lords and king of kings and lord of lords and king of kings. Kings and Lord of Lords, there's only one king of kings and one lord of lords, folks.
Absolutely, and then I I see here that they had on the news that Uh the Pope the head of the Catholic Church should Um a woman now who's the head of the Church of England uh they got a new woman as the head. Do you know what these people don't know? The people don't know that The Church, Joe, only has one head. The the the church only has one head. And that's the Lord Jesus Christ, okay.
Amen, yeah. But uh Well, they'll find that out some day. Already Well, when he built the church, look at scripture. Did he build a hierarchy? No.
There was no hierarchy there. Didn't happen. Church government, very simple, huh? Still And God's immutable. He hasn't changed, has He?
This is what we're what we try to change. We try to tell people we stay to the Word of God. It hasn't changed. What we teach and what we preach. At the unregistered Baptists is right from the the very same thing.
That Peter, Paul, and the early apostles, we We haven't changed anything. We use the very same And and um I'm already getting phone calls or not phone calls, text messages from folks. telling me that they're they're Trying to um Take us down to some stations already. Every time that you know, so that means we're stepping on the devil's toes. And uh we do that a lot on the radio, I guess, nowadays, especially when the gospel It's it's always When you're bringing what we're bringing tonight, um This kind of message that usually Hits em the hardest, but anyhow.
Well, let's let's start with the basic thing. What is a church, folks? The church, the Bible describes it perfectly. Jesus called us living stones, lively stones, right? That means the living stone.
We are the living stones that are built upon the cornerstone So we build a living church with out of the lively stones and living stones, we build a living church. And we worship a living risen Lord That is the definition of a church. That's what it is. It's not all these denominations, congregations. It's what Jesus Christ laid out.
set up for an example to follow in his word. Christ is the head. There's a shepherd, an under-shepherd that follows Christ. And he has his flock, and there's no other church government. It's not there.
There's Some a board of elders or something in the church to help the pastor, but there is no governmental system. in God's church. Never has been since day one. And And he's not likely to change his mind any time soon, in my opinion. Right.
You have Uh denominations are not biblical at all, okay? And some people will say, well, then wait a minute. Why aren't you a Baptist?
Well, first of all, Baptist is an actual true Baptist. Is not a denomination, it's a doctrine. Baptism, you find that in Hebrews chapter five and six, okay. In fact, Joe, I think. The very first church Uh The very first pastor of the very first church, Was John the Baptist?
John the Baptist had a and they followers, they were his congregation. And in those days Uh they would always uh they didn't know anything about the church they would refer to uh the p you know, they they would call them after the name of their pastors, okay. and they referred to s some of the church leaders, they referred to as Baptist the Baptist or Uh Those of that way, in fact, uh Uh but but that's where The actual true Baptist, only I would say less than 10%. Of those today that have Baptist in their name or actually Baptister. They're really Protestant.
They're really not Baptist at all. Right, exactly.
Well, like you said, Hebrews uh chapter six. The first uh verse. Fundamentally. The principles of the doctrine of Christ let us go on unto perfection. Not laying again, the foundation of repentance from the dead works.
and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands and of the resurrection of the dead and of eternal judgment. And this will we do if God permit. Yep, there you go. It's not complicated. That's a Baptist, right?
Following the traditions laid out by John. And promoted by Jesus Christ himself. Who said he had to go to John to be baptized, didn't he? Remember? He set the example, even he went and was baptized to show us.
That was the outward and visible sign of our inward and spiritual grace of the grace of being born again, made new inside new spiritual birth. And that's what a Baptist is. Absolutely. And here again Uh we hold truth to that's what I preached on last week. Holding to the tradition of the apostles, holding to the traditions, and that's what we're doing.
You know, w when we worship today our sacrifices today, are of praise, worship, uh of ties and of service and Here, you know, he said scriptures that our bodies are living sacrifices, so. how we choose to live each and every day. If we are working for the Lord, doing good, things that bless him, that are praising him Uh we're doing that. just in the way we live and handle each and every day, whether we're mowing a lawn whether we're helping a neighbor whatever we do, if we're doing it for the Lord, Uh it's going to be a blessing. Amen.
Do it unto the Lord. And so uh all righty, well, I've got to make some Um I got it. I got to make a couple quick announcements out there. One I wanted to s just say very quickly. Um, you know, every now and then There will be a a business or or An association is something that gives exceptional service that goes above and beyond.
And here, you know, I gotta tell you, there's been there's been s some strange things happening. uh lately and um I get up this morning And my wife says Uh here She said if you tasted the water, it's it's it's salty, it's very salty. and I had just made a big pot of coffee, you know. uh with that water and it was terrible. And Then Uh I got in uh I got into the shower.
Yeah. And all of a sudden All this black stuff comes out of my shower head. I mean It's it's it's like Like little bitty beads like little bitty black beads, like little black miniature black balls. Come out of the shower head. And so I you know, I I ran it and it it it it got clear and I uh Got it got got halfway clean.
But anyhow, I went and I called Bob, a friend of mine. And uh He uh he has a plowing business. He's a plower. Uh it's called Papa Dock Plumbing. And I called him and I told him what happened.
Now a lot of times it It takes you a while to get a plumber, if you need a plumber. Let's going without water. Go you know, going without water and with you know, we're lately with all the things we've had happen to us here recently too.
So But anyhow, I want to say this He was over there within a couple hours. He was over at the house. Came in. It got the got the problems all taken care of, okay. And uh I mean You know, I mean, and he was a busy man.
He's a very busy man. but he made sure we had water in the house. And so I just wanted to give uh him a A heads up, folks, and out here in in Jauca County, out here where I livin' in the area. Uh and that's Papa Papa Dock Plumbing, Papa Doc Plumbing Service. And I just want to tell you that uh his His phone number is four four zero.
two eight five zero nine zero four. Again, out there in northeast Ohio, papa dock plumbing. Exceptional service, exceptional service. and that number again is four four zero two eight five zero nine zero four And uh I felt felt right by doing that. What do you think?
Okay. We have a We got a number of things we want to uh cover things that are happening here. Oh. Did you see where The DOJ now wants to add the firing squad back as a method for federal executions. The Department of Justice announced Friday its moving to strengthen the federal death penalty, including by bringing back firing squads The D O J in a press release said it is readopting the lethal injection that it is re readop readopting The lethal injection protocol used during the first Trump administration, expanding the protocol to include additional manners of.
execution such as a firing squad, and streamlining internal uh processes to expedite death penalty cases. The department added that these changes are Critical deterring to deterring the most uh barbaric crimes, delivering justice for victims, and providing Long Okay. The poor administration failed. The prior administration failed. in its duty to protect the American people by refusing to Pursue and carry out the ultimate punishment of the against his most dangerous criminals.
including terrorists, child molesters, cop killers. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said in a statement on Friday.
Okay, so what do you think about that, Joe? I had a little break in our connection. You kind of lost me. You're talking about the Uh Alan Cole. No, I was talking about here The uh The Justice Department Is now going to the DOJ Department of Justice is going to be uh bringing back the firing squad.
Yeah I am sorry, there was a break there where all of a sudden I just there was nothing, I couldn't hear anything. Um yeah, I think that's an awfully good idea because it's a Visual. People are visual. They uh Well, if you look at the way they get caught up on YouTube and the different things that happen, the shorts and things like that. Quick messages.
for some reason, it leaves a very lasting imprint And I think it makes it very real to people, and I'm all for it. God says there are consequences if you know if you take a life, your life will be forfeited by you know, if you shed blood by your blood, we you know you Okay. get it quite right, but uh By your blood, you know, we'll be fit. Yeah. That what you're talking about is the statute of the death penalty given in the note by the And here that was verses five through seven in Genesis nine, but I've got very remember that.
Okay, I've got very mixed emotions. Let me tell you why. I'm all one hundred and ten per cent. A behind What God's Word, the Bible, has given us Uh For the death penalty, that statutes. But that statute is given to us in divine human government.
Which is real government genuine. Our government is not. It's a perverted version. Remember. The reason that that statute was given was Because In the five points of divine and human government.
the third point, which was the most important point, Joe, The entire purpose, the entire purpose of of human government was to preserve the image of God, that being men, And for those that destroyed the image of God transgress his dominion. they would have to forfeit their life.
Now And Here The way that that was to be Carried out was to use God's laws, God's statutes, God's covenants, God's promises. etcetera. You strictly by by what God has given us And here, you know, In fact, if you read 119th Psalm, that that tells you very clearly. My problem is this, Joe. You know, it was was a For 50 years, we're still in the death row ministry.
I don't go there, but for 45 years. I I visited on a regular basis Death Row. We minister to many, many of Death Row inmates. And in that time, in our judicial system, I was was c it might be they say, well, it's the best in the world, it's not perfect. Oh, it's but it but it can be very corrupt.
very corrupt. And well, it's gotten worse over the years when we were young. Yeah, but I saw and we intervened and seven different men we got off of death row, It was obvious, very, very obvious in their cases that they were not guilty, that they couldn't be guilty, okay? The last one I was involved with was was a man that had no motive, There was no physical evidence that put this man at the scene of the crime, he had no motive for being at the scene of the crime. No evidence, no eye witnesses, okay?
And Here Uh The Ohio Supreme Court said, Well, There was there was no physical evidence uh to Now that this is after he'd spent four years on death row, okay. Uh so they they took him off of death row. says that because there was no physical evidence that he w that he was there, that committed a crime, But he still left him in prison.
Okay, they just moved him off of death row and put him in population. We don't have a really s good judicial system in this state, no. Uh then I've seen several other guys. Uh one of them Who we worked with Mike. We had him on a radio program several times.
Same thing. No. The evidence all came out that he never committed a crime. Uh Uh and we I mean, I've I've known several.
Well, that were off. Joe's another one that we you know, we got off of death row. There was no evidence, no What happens today is Uh You know what? Guilt or innocence really doesn't mean that much. In our judicial system, It doesn't.
It's whoever p puts on the first case the the best case Whoever's got The biggest motive to keep somebody in prison, and if that means even on a death row. And that's the way it is, Darren. The most money to the best attorneys. You're right, you've got a point. Yeah, the scripture does allow for it, but you're right, that's only if it's a just system and We really, I have to admit, you're absolutely right.
We don't have a just system.
So, what do you do? You want to punish the guilty, but you don't want to condemn the innocent.
So it's kind of a.
Well, that call catch 22, isn't it? Yeah, well, we'll look at it this way. The very same system there that he's talking about legalizes killing babies. They kill the Hundreds of millions of babies killed Destroyed image so that they're doing right.
So that very same system is guilty of killing. human beings and that's why it's illegitimate The very same system says, Well, you can kill an innocent baby. If you buy a license, I'll I'll from the State to do that. And then they turn around. And they want to judge and and execute other people for doing exactly what they're doing.
So there you go. That's why. That's why when it comes to th this particular thing, Uh, I've really got mixed emotions on that because Um Yeah here. Yeah, I mean, it's really well, not on the death penal. If we if we had uh an actual clean, decent in other words, where you could get honest, God-fearing prosecutors.
Where if they actually And uh Went by Romans 13. What Romans 13 actually teaches using God's laws and statutes and ordinances in that I would be all for it, but they don't. They don't. They use man's and it it's unjust. Right, they're not looking for justice, they're looking for a conviction rate.
Absolutely. We've seen it too many times. It's not a search for the truth anymore.
Somewhere long ago before you and I got here, I think that was given up, right? Yep, absolutely. All right, uh you heard about what's happen what happened out there in Virginia. Uh where they I want to redistrict. Jerry Amanda.
And uh That woman, Virginia Attorney General Uh j well. General J. Jones. He's the one, remember, Attorney General wanted to kill. His competition, the guy that was running against him and his family?
And he still got elected. And instead of being put in jail or charged. I thought you make a threat like that. I thought there had to be consequences. When I was raised.
if you made a threat like against somebody like that, they would come and talk to you and you could be in all kinds of trouble.
Nowadays, they threaten Trump Oh, that one guy was they need to shed blood in the streets and we need to, you know, go to war in the streets and run red with blood and Nobody blinks tonight. Nobody says anything, does anything. I'm kind of baffled, Pastor.
Well Hakeem Jeffries just recently just came out and said after Dropping the F bomb. He drops the F bomb and he says he declares war on all Republicans. He says he's calling for maximum warfare. Uh to divide our country maximum warfare. The whole point is to divide America and to destroy America.
And when he was called out of it, I remember he was telling people, I don't give a that word beaver, you know. I stand by it, he said, you know, so I mean. He's doubling down uh when they try and tell him, What did you say? and he's just doubling down, going for it. Yep.
Alrighty. I didn't catch that, Josh. What'd you say?
Okay, very good. Yeah, let me know. Uh yeah, I know that it's amazing.
Well, anyhow Here, let me read you this article for Judy Attorney General J. Jones soon. Is going to have to appear in court to defend the state's radical redistricting scheme. Pushed by Governor Abigail Spanberger. Look, But, Joe, do you know how you can see things and you can feel things in your spirit?
I. I've seen this before. It's you know, they say, Trust your gut is an old But when I when I get around people that are Satanists, that are actual Pra Satanists or Those that are involved in witchcraft in that I you know, it I get that that hair rising up on my arm has happened before. It's It's real. It's very real.
I can I can tell And when I first saw this Spamberg woman, uh, you know, she c she tried to be very look so nice and and I knew right there. I looked and I could just feel it, and you you could feel it. That woman was a witch. And Anyhow, uh Abigail Spernberger. Democrat who wanted forty nine percent of the state's population.
The Republicans to have only nine percent of the state's congressional. Representation. And so we'll have to pick this up. We're coming up to a break. And When we come back on the other side, we're gonna I I saw something I didn't ever think I would see.
It was uh CBS CBS news uh commentator actually doing a right thing and when she called out Eric Holder, and used his own words against them. We're going to take a listen to that. That's amazing. I didn't think I don't Why if you stay light the light of our land, let's come again.
