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Head coaches are being fired. I don't want to say it's a dumpster fire in college football, but there's some fun matchups, some fun games going on, a lot of interesting stuff to talk about. And we do it with Bill Bender, who has covered college football for a long time for the sporting news. Bill Andy Gresh here on the Infinity Sports Network. Good evening.
Thanks for the time. How are you? Hey, what's up, Andy? Thanks for having me on, man. Yeah, Bill.
Who the hell is going to be the Penn State and the LSU coach? You can't be the same guy, and it feels like they're pulling from the same pool.
So what what what's going to give here as you see it, Bill? What, Ling Kiff and Kent coach both places? Yeah, Elaine Kiffin Junior. Yeah. It's interesting because I think Signeti was their the the home run And he's with Indiana.
If Matt Rule stays at Nebraska, it's going to get a little interesting there. And then. You know, uh L S U I I don't know. I I think It's early. The governor might be involved with a board of directors.
Who knows where that goes, right? Bill, in all seriousness, okay, you've been covering college football for a long time. Have you ever Heard. a verbal pantsing of an athletic director From the governor of the state. I mean, that is, that's about as bad as it gets, isn't it?
I mean, I live in a state where former Ohio State coaches was the lieutenant governor. You know, but uh And that's not even close.
So what we're dealing with here. You know, I I know how serious Football is it LSU? I think Brian Kelly was a very successful coach. And I was talking to Jacob Hester about this, the old LSU fullback today. He he he brought up a good point.
Like they're It matters. Only when it's not going well, right? Like Their baseball coach isn't from We think ever. Whitney Sabin and Les Miles weren't from Louisiana. You just need to have a coach.
that that works hard, makes LSU football everything. And, you know, family and football. That's what that job's all about. You know what, Bill? But can they do that while I mean, look, if it's not a big name and you pick the right coach and ultimately the guy goes and wins, then everything works itself out.
But does there have to be a level of splash and flash with this hire for LSU? Can they be confident to look at, say, you know, a Silverfield from Memphis and say, let's bring that guy in? They haven't hired a coach Power 4 since Curly Howman. There we go.
So, I, you know what I mean? I think they're taking a home run swing, and uh, the governor isn't hiring Ryan Silverfield as much as I like Ryan Silverfield, you know what I mean? Like, They're going to take a big swing here. I don't know if that means. you know power four to power four, but I was bringing up that point today, like One of my editors, Rob Cassidy, he does a really nice job for us boarding.
He's brought this up in our meeting today. How many? Power for The power four moves. Work. Not that.
Brian Kelly didn't work. Lincoln Riley, we could Judgment there. He hasn't had as much success at USC as he did at Oklahoma, Willie Taggart. I mean, I could go on and on. The one that sticks out that I I fired back was uh Brom's done a nice job, but that's Purdue to Louisville.
That's not Purdue to. That was you. Yeah, that is an interesting thought. Is there any chance that because Mike Elko has jersey ties that Penn State makes a run with the Texas AM headman? It probably should.
He's an excellent coach. There's one that also worked out, Duke the Texas AM. He's been. Fantastic at both places. And he's got a no-nonsense way about him, but You know, what that what's the value judgment then?
You leave Penn State where they just Hired a guy. that won nearly seventy percent of his games? Or do you stay at Texas A and M where You're not only number three in the country. They're really good. You know, when are we gonna get when do we get to say that Texas A ⁇ M's really good?
what what else do they need to do? Do they need to beat Texas like they did LSU. I mean they won at Notre Dame.
So Uh that's a really good Team a really good school, really good program. And I think it would be hard. to uh pull Mike Elko out of there. Is it kind of fait de compli that the Vanderbilt coach will leave for? A job that doesn't care as much about academics.
He's an outstanding coach. But You know. Whether it's Clark Lee or Kenny Dillingham or Jeff Brom. I mean, one of the beauties of college football is these guys care about their alma mater. And they coach at their alma mater and they love coaching there.
I do think Clark Lee. Genuinely loves Vanderbilt. Why would he leave? Other than money. Right.
Right? Other than money, because Vanderbilt, he loves it. He's built them into one of the best stories of the year. Yep. Kurt Signetti is going to stay at Indiana.
Why would Clark Lee Not state of Vanderbilt. By the way, if they beat Texas. It really I think they're in. You know? I think if they go 10 and 2 with a win against Texas, they're going to be in the playoffs.
And that would be I mean, for Vanderbilt to think that they can get into the playoff is just amazing. Yeah, Bill, I made a joke earlier today that we're living in a college football world where Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt and Indiana Are all candidates to go to the national playoff, and all three of them may end up there? How about that Georgia Tech situation? Does somebody look at the job that Does somebody look at the job that's been done there and said, hey, I can live with that guy as my head coach? He's really good.
Frank Key is so good. And again, alma mater. Uh Has made Haynes King into a star. They win close games. They win with a gritty formula that plays off well.
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So I I do think that is a team that I mean, I'd love to have him as my head coach. I think he loves his players. I love him as a media guy because. You know, coaches, uh make their way through interviews and give you coach speak. It listens to questions.
He calls you out when you ask a dumb question. He is very attentive. And uh he takes his job very seriously. I think he's awesome. I think he's uh Elko and him are Right at the top.
Of Coach of the Year candidates this year. You know what's interesting, Bill? We've talked about all these guys who have jobs who might try to get Lord to go to other ones. If all these cats end up staying, I really wonder where LSU and Penn State turn to be able to fill this job with people who are experienced and have cache. Like you said, it's been forever since LSU has hired a coach outside of the Power Four or the Power Five.
But is there a chance that, you know, a lot like Indiana, that Texas AM and Olemas and Vanderbilt and these schools, you know, like Memphis, I know they're not going to match, but, you know, the Power Four schools say, hey, we got a good thing going here. Let's give these guys contract extensions. Or do you think that Bill, the lure of going somewhere else or, you know, the lure of Penn State, let's say, ends up just drawing somebody out of their current job? Um That's a great question. Because everybody building me has enough money.
Like, everybody now has enough money to make their coach whole if they really want to. And I mean, of all places, Indiana was the one that cut it off at the pass. I wonder if these other schools start thinking the same thing. And then if you're LSU and you're Penn State, you better have Plan D. That's the point, and that's why I paused.
Because let's say Penn State doesn't hire the right guy, the risk factor into Following into an eight and four, seven and five type programs there. It really is if you hire the wrong guy. LSU. Same deal because you're in the SC. I think you're gonna, some of these programs are gonna have to be willing to deal with.
A nine and three season, and an eight and four season where you miss, but if you make I think the standard of success in college football now Especially at really any program in the SEC or the Big Ten, we could make that argument is You get in the playoff. Forget about going 10 and 2 or 11 and 1. You know what I mean? Get in the cloud. That's school number one.
Then you squeeze through and win a national championship. I'm admittedly. I live in Columbus, Ohio, or or south of it.
So I live in a place where they're they're one of the few places in this country that I believe can wake up and say we should win every game. There aren't too many in college football anymore. No, that's a good point. That's a really good point. Uh Bill, I can't believe we've gone this long talking coaching.
And I haven't asked you about James Franklin. What's your gut feel as to what happens with that guy? He'll end up somewhere. And he'll do well wherever he lands. I mean, 70% of his games.
built power power four somewhere or like A high end job in the mountain west like UNLV when Dan Mullen gets out of there. Why wouldn't Virginia Tech hire him? Might be a great fit. Why wouldn't Hire him.
Well, I don't think they will. But you know, why wouldn't any ACC school hire him if that opens up? I think he'd crush it at Virginia Tech. I think If the Belichick thing comes to an end in North Carolina, that would be my first call. I think you crush it at a place like North Carolina.
Um Tho those are kind of the places I would look at with James Franklin that I think he would do extremely well. Does Brian Kelly get yet another big head coaching job? Uh maybe. Uh I I think Hell he's 64.
So if you retired, I wouldn't be like. Oh, I can't believe he retired. You know what I mean? He just got a.
however many million dollar buyout. Um Actually, for me. The one guy that If all those options you were talking about with Penn State, if they fell through, that's the call I would make. I mean because We can make fun of Brian Kelly for all the accent stuff all we want. He wins football games and he did win at Punn State and they're built to win right now.
Why not make that kind of move? Are there any other power fours that you think are going to come open? I know there's a lot of smoke around Luke Fickle at Wisconsin. Do you think there are more heads yet to still roll? Maybe.
I mean, there'll be a couple more. And there could be a chain reaction depending on who these schools hire. If we have power forward to power for moves, Um you know, let's say Matt Rule goes Unsafe. Nebraska's open. Let's say then Matt Campbell goes to Nebraska.
You know what I mean? This will happen. I look at Auburn and I'm wondering.
Okay, how much longer does Hugh Freeze have? And they're losing a lot of close games, so I give them a little bit of leeway. You got to win in the SEC at some point. I actually think Wisconsin and Florida State, we won't see any decisions made. until the end of the year.
And in fairness to Wisconsin, When we all looked at the schedule in August, every one of us said, Man, I don't know if I see it win in October.
So Why are we overreacting? I think we're overreacting because they can't score. That is very fair. And in the modern day of college football, that is bad stuff. Bill Bender of the Sporting News talking a lot about, I mean, we didn't even get into the games.
I just had fun talking about the coaching carousel because there's only going to be more people riding on it and more teams looking for coaches here. Bill, thanks a bunch. Enjoy the weekend. Great chat. Thank you.
Hey, anytime. And we'll get to the games next time. I appreciate it. Yeah, there you go. I'm Dr.
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