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Off the Cuff Friday with Carton & Kilmeade: LeBron’s Anthem Golf, Should the NFL Play in Paris, and Flag Football Frenzy

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October 23, 2026 5:00 pm

Off the Cuff Friday with Carton & Kilmeade: LeBron’s Anthem Golf, Should the NFL Play in Paris, and Flag Football Frenzy

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October 23, 2026 5:00 pm

Craig rolls into the studio with flexible hours and zero filter for his Friday appearance on The Brian Kilmeade Show! First, Craig demands to know when we’re finally going to have an honest, real conversation about the NY Giants and their blueprint for JJ McCarthy. Then, he dives straight into the hot stove rumor mill—is Cam Skattebo really heading to Buffalo? Plus, LeBron James gets caught practicing his golf swing and foul shot during the national anthem, but don't worry: Craig has a bulletproof solution for NBA patriotism. Things take an unexpected turn when Craig breaks into a live Amy Winehouse rendition that completely sinks the energy of the studio, but he recovers in time to break down why a small-market World Series is actually phenomenal for baseball (and what it says about the big spenders watching from home). Finally, the guys debate whether the NFL belongs in Paris, France this weekend, how many years away we are from a full-blown NFL European Division, and why the explosive growth of flag football is the best thing happening in sports. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So rule the group chat and download Apple Sports for free on the App Store, or find it on your new iPhone. Hey there, it's your buddy Craig Carton. Earlier today, like I do every Friday, I sat down with Brian Kilmeade, Fox News Radio. We talked about LeBron James, the national anthem in sports, flag football, and whether or not the NFL should be playing this weekend in Paris, France. It was a phenomenal show.

I was brilliant; that I carried the day, and you get to hear it on the Brian Kilmeade Show on Fox News Radio. Welcome back, everyone. Brian Kilmeade is back with you, and so it's a Friday. Craig Carton's going to be here. This is a big mystery to me.

I normally Craig comes in early and then does his show, but today I saw him at. He's on my the rundown 11:35, and I'm thinking to myself, "Have you you quit the show? Are you what's going on?" No, you're. That's what you guys ask for. Oh, yes.

Is this the normal slot? No, I normally do it at 9:34. I think. Oh, so you have this type of flexibility? Anything for you, really?

That's right. You tell me what time you want me. I'm available for you.

Well, yes. Don't believe that, but I'm going to accept it. I'm a little naive. Yes.

So, and I know you're upset that I was right last week. About the Saints beating your Giants, and your Giants gonna get blown out on Sunday against the Texans, and then we can start having a real conversation about your football team.

Okay, I don't want to. I know we're national, but I just gotta focus on the fourth quarter. Yes, I'm saying to myself, "What's going on? Right? I mean, how is this happening?

Because I'm listening to the game because I couldn't see the game, and I said they're up." They're up seven nothing. Where were they up ten? Giants were ten zero. Then they were down thirty four ten. It's going to be twenty four nothing.

Yeah, it's going to be twenty four nothing. Oops, and then. Make a Jameson makes a couple of interceptions, just absolutely killer. And they want to win for the running game. Yeah, well, fell off the punt return fumbles where everything just turned, and then you couldn't run the ball, and he's throwing picks, and you lost.

Thinking in the fourth quarter, they pull in JJ McCarthy. Yeah, he's only been with the team three weeks, right?

So when you watched him, they going through like layers of the defense to complete these passes, and you watching him run like that, are you thinking? This is going to be the number one story—the comeback.

Well, I knew knowing that neighbors was open to tie the game. Right? Yeah. No, I think you have to remember that the Saints were playing their backup defensive players in a pre-prevent defense. But you'll see the real JJ McCarthy this weekend.

You do. And I know you don't want to just talk Giants. Say, but if this is an unwinnable game for you guys, but here's the good news: whatever happens on Sunday, you're going to wake up Monday morning. I assume you're up about two or three o'clock in the morning, and your Giants are going to be in first place again.

So that's a good thing.

Well, so let's enjoy that while you can.

Well, put it this way: I don't know what the Texans did last week, but everyone who saw that game said their defense looked unbelievable. Their defense is starting to get better because on paper they should be the best defense in the AFC. They've not played like it. All right, so. A lot of people think you hold JJ McCarthy out, give him we did two more weeks because the bye week is coming up, right?

Yeah, and then you put him in again. That's what I would have done. I would have Jameis play because I think it's an unwinnable game. And then you have the bye week, and then you have the Eagles after the bye week, and they're all messed up with Jalen Hurts not playing and a bunch of other guys. And I thought that would have been a better, softer landing spot for JJ McCarthy.

But here we are. Yeah, here we are.

So Harbaugh, Najee Harris goes in and says, "Listen, I want more carries." He goes, "You're cut." Exactly right.

So did you see the stories that Scadaboo's on on up for betrayed to Buffalo? There's a lot of silly rumors out there right now. Do you think it's true? I don't think it's true, but I would say this: we have to remember that John Harbaugh didn't draft Cam Scadaboo, right? And if there is an available running back, like we take like Jonathan Taylor on the Colts, they're not going anywhere.

Saquon Barkley from the Eagles, guys like that, maybe there is an opportunity to get the Giants to acquire a better back. You get Saquon back? Yeah, I mean it's not going to happen. By the way, would you trade for Brees Hall, the Jets? You might a lot of money, yeah, but he's better than what you got.

Like you guys have a chance. You don't love Scadaboo because I don't love Scadaboo. No, of course you do. Of course you do. Because you know there's still a man in the back of your head, like angry, ah, make contact.

Ah, he's like a throwback football player, but just care. I love people that care. Yeah, but he's like Amy Winehouse, you know. It's gonna be a flash in the pan. Like he's not gonna be here two years.

What happened to that? She had like she died. Yeah, she overdosed. Oh, yeah, not funny.

So no one. I'm not saying he's gonna overdose, but he ain't gonna be around much longer. Right. I I did not know. I forgot how that ended.

So I tried to. She had the Wall of Sound, didn't she? Ah, is that the name of an album? No, I don't know. What am I thinking of?

Did she do something? She did. They want to make me go to rehab, but I said no, no, no. Right. She should have gone.

She was the one in rehab. Yeah. Same story.

So wasted talent. You know. Yeah. It was kind of bringing the show down a little.

Sorry. Right. So let's talk about the anthem.

So you sent it to it. I did, and it's a huge story. It's getting bigger and bigger. Yeah. So what is what is going on?

So so here, LeBron James is playing the national anthem at Madison Square Garden. Yeah, Tuesday night, and he decided to practice his golf swing and jump shot. Yeah. So he's standing there, and rather than just stand there for two minutes, right? He's out there doing air golf.

An area of free throw shooting, which is I think even more disrespectful than the gals of the WNBA, you know, running off the court, which is obviously disrespectful. And I've come up with a solution, which I know you're going to love.

Okay. And the solution to this problem is if you can't pay respect to the flag and all the soldiers that have dedicated their lives and sometimes given their lives to our way of life. Then you cannot wear the flag on your chest in international competition.

So if you want to run off the court, have at it. Run off the court, be disrespectful. But when the Olympics come around next time, or the World Cup comes around next time, whatever the international event is, you are not allowed to put the red, white, and blue on your chest. Very simple. And represent this country.

I like I like that idea a lot. Simple. In case you haven't seen it, because you guys don't watch the WNBA either, do I? Although I'm pro women's sports, absolutely more more opportunities for everybody. They run.

They don't just get off the court and can kind of walk off and go. You know, let me just get into the background. Right. Remember they used to kneel and you just don't be a big deal. Who's kneeling?

You know, you'll try to find it. They run. They're like, we don't want to be anywhere near it. It's the finals. I'm breaking the rules.

I don't care. I want people to talk about it. And they're doing it. It's performative. They want you to see them running off the court.

They could stay in the locker room if they wanted to and come out after the anthem. I would still have a problem with that. But they're making a spectacle of. Oh no! Here comes the anthem.

We better get out of Dodge. And they're getting the attention I suppose they want. But that look, like you said, I've I've done Sports Talk Radio for thirty-five years. I've never taken a call or started a show talking about women's basketball, and I never will.

So, do you remember the '96 team with Rebecca Lobo, Carol Walters, Jen Rosati? No, that's the first time I noticed women's basketball because, and UConn. Was selling the place out. They were like almost a bigger story, and they are a huge story, especially with their coach and everything. Yeah.

So I see that, you know, and and you see the rivalries happen. You see the passion. I just it just stops for me. As much as you maybe remember when college football they say in the fifties and sixties was bigger. You know, forties, fifties, sixes was bigger than the pros.

Yeah, that's what reminds me of. Yeah, college is a bigger deal. Yeah, college is a bigger deal, and I'm with you. Like, women should have the ability to play sports. Sports are important, and there's wonderful athletes that get to play sports.

I've never had an interest in it at a professional level. I think we all kind of rally around the Olympics and international events like that. But here, you have a league that's been subsidized by the NBA since its existence has never made a profit. And now along comes Caitlin Clark, and suddenly people have an interest in the league because she changed the dynamic in this country for women's basketball, and they're doing everything in their power to drive us away from watching what they do. Right?

It's crazy. You know, you know, Ennis Canter. You had he was thirty-two years old. They just said, "We don't want to deal with you. You're out," and he knew it.

Because he was making a big big deal about the kneeling and taking on LeBron, no one just drafted him, so he doesn't seem bitter. But he probably lost four years making twelve million. He had an eleven-year career. He made a lot of money. You know, he's also been politically active.

I know there's like a hit on his a price in his head in Turkey. Yeah, yeah. Because he spoke out about the Turkish government.

So he's a he's a politically active guy. But everything's performative now. But that's what I worry about. That Sophie Cunningham, as a worker, like coming off the bench player, makes this stand. Do you think they're gonna cut her?

No, because she's popular. And look, this is the back, the ass backwards league. Yes, and let's be honest, Sophie Cunningham's popular because she's beautiful. If Sophie Cunningham had a hairy mole on her face and weighed 210 pounds, nobody would care what she has to say. But she's a model, supermodel, and she's got a cool personality and doesn't take crap from anybody.

And oh, by the way, she's a supermodel and take and going about for Caitlyn. That was yeah. We don't listen to ugly people, right?

Well, I think we do. We do. Yeah, and I think you're calling me shallow some way. We're all shallow, really. Yeah, even Pete and Eric.

Pete's the worst. He's the worst.

So I want you to hear LeBron because it's been so long, people forgot. LeBron James was asked about the president ripping her, ripping him for doing the golf swing. Cut sixty-one. Again, that Trump tried to take shots at you at the speech tonight while you were playing, as well as yeah, yeah, it must be slow news day at the office, you know, slow news day in the office.

So I guess he didn't apologize.

So LeBron was screaming at a at a Garden fan who came in soft. Yeah. By the way, he did apologize. He just didn't use the words "the president's right." Because last night the Sixers had their home opener against the Cleveland Cavs, and when they played the anthem, he stood there. That's his way of apologizing.

Yeah, he's like, I'll change. And maybe he did it for the home crowd, and maybe that's his deal. I guess we have to wait for future Sixers games. This is an easy one for me. If you want to wear red, white, and blue on your chest in the Olympics.

Then it's not too much for me to ask for you to respect the flag at home. All right.

So, Craig Cardin, quick question. Yes, sir. Why don't people love LeBron James? Because he's insufferable narcissist. And if you if you're the greatest of all time, you don't have to tell anybody.

Michael Jordan never told anybody I'm the greatest of all time. He let his game speak for himself. LeBron has never done that. LeBron's a flopper. He's a crybaby.

He's a guy that has only won championships when he built super teams because he couldn't win on his own, and he—that's what he's after. He and he's—you know—to me, a part of that his generation where that's what it's all about. World Series on Fox. Yes, and two two fantastic teams. Small markets.

Yeah, one is the second lowest payroll, and the other is the nineteenth lowest payroll. Yeah. So, what does that say? Mets are number one. It's been the Dodgers two, and the Yankees three.

Yeah. So, what does it tell you?

Well, it tells me that people should take a clue from Tampa and Milwaukee how to build good baseball teams. And the fact that you can build a potential championship team for a third of the money some of the quote-unquote major markets are spending, to me, is not about money. It's about having good talent evaluators, having good farm systems, and having competent people making competent decisions.

Now, there's a conspiracy out there that with a looming lockout after this World Series on Fox, as you correctly mentioned. That this is going to further embolden the players' side to vote against the cap. That here we just proved to you that caps are relevant. The two teams in the World Series have hundred million dollar payrolls, give or take, and the three hundred fifty million dollar payrolls weren't even in the postseason. But there's going to be some level of a work stoppage in baseball starting December first.

So I think we should enjoy this World Series. Because I'm not quite sure when baseball is coming back after it. It's so interesting because they can't afford to miss anything. They are dying, and in terms of the country, just every year, just a little bit less. People care a little bit less about baseball.

I'm not sure if I subscribe to that. Because you're in the middle of Mets Yankees.

Well, in New York, it's different for sure. Yeah. No, I'm not in Cincinnati. Do people care about the Reds anymore? Maybe, maybe they don't naturally.

Maybe, but like, do the Reds care about the tech? Probably not. Yeah. You're probably right about that. Probably not.

So here's something you can relate to. Yeah. Freddie Peralta, who was useless with the Mets. Yeah, he was. He wins the MVP in the ALCS, cut fifty-seven.

If I would have told you in July, Would be ALCS MVP with the Rays. What would you say? That you are crazy. This is crazy, and I'm very happy to be here, to be part of this this great group and this this great organization. God is the only one that brought me here, and this is not only mine.

We all earned this. This is for the boys. Great. What did he do different?

Well, what he did different was he had better coaching. Apparently, the day he got to Tampa, and I don't know the name of the pitching coach, but they told the story during the ALDS this year in Tampa, swept the Yankees. That, like, within five minutes, they recognized some mechanical thing in his pitching. They changed it the day he got there, or I guess after his first start, which he got blown up in, and after that change, he became you know the great pitcher the Mets thought they had.

So again, you could spend all the money in the world. Do you have the right people in the organization to coach, to teach, and to bring players along? And Tampa clearly does. Should the NFL be playing this weekend in Paris? Craig will answer that when we come back.

Tease, yes. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kilmeade Show. Craig Cardin, our guest, his Outkick show is about to start. Craig, you want to promote your show?

Yeah, so Outkick it'll come out in a few hours. Dee Marie Smith, the longtime former head of the NFL Players Association, so we're talking about should the NFL be in powers this weekend? Talking about the Jalen Hurt situation with the blood clot and a little anthem stuff as well. And he's a really, really bright guy that I like a lot. I respect a lot, so hopefully you guys will check that out.

Saint Steelers in Paris—should they be playing? Yeah, I don't think so. You know, they've canceled every fan event in in and around Paris this week because part of the NFL going to European countries is a celebration of American football. There's events and appearances.

Now, the stadium they're going to play the game in Sunday morning here, Eastern Time in America. Is a train ride from Paris. It's not in downtown Paris. It's in a neighborhood. I'm told about 15 minute train ride from Paris.

So I'm not sure if these riots and nonsense in Paris is now going out there. But if you're a rioter and you have some agenda you want the world to know about, and you hate America, and you hate America, and you've got the NFL, nothing bigger than that in this country. In your country, don't you think that mob? Is going to say, "Oh, I've got a good idea. Let's leave the Eiffel Tower alone.

Let's go get a name and a platform by connecting ourselves to the NFL." The NFL. This is the hubris, Brian, of the NFL. If you're canceling fan events, why are you playing a football game there? Where you want fans to come, right?

So you just don't want them playing outside. Because fan events are just like a bunch of interactive things, fan fest. And look, I know the players are safe. The NFL has you know special ops guys, you know former you guys, you know seals and whatnot that'll protect them. I'm not worried about the player safety.

But the NFL is about the fans, isn't it? I thought so. You know, the UK is going to have these same rights. We keep going back and forth there because the Jaguars have their stadium rebuilt, so they're playing there a bunch of times.

So I'm just wondering. I know they export the game; they make a ton of money.

So what happens is, in their wake, people buy the jerseys. Then they begin to pay attention. becomes more of a global audience. It's worked. It's worked for the NBA.

And by the way, there's going to be a European division in our lifetime, especially as we change the rules of, you know, supersonic travel. There will be a European division, and that's why we play games in Paris and in Brazil and in Germany and in Tottenham and in London. Because the ultimate goal of the owners is more teams paying exorbitant fees to join the league, more money in their pockets. But this one have an American and European champion, and they're playing the double Super Bowl, double secret Super Bowl. Exactly.

Well, the thing is, it's kind of working because they already have. Flag football in the if you told me flag football was ever going to be in the Olympics, I'd say you'd get no way. But it is. Yes, it is. And the flag football team that represents the USA now played an NFL team and beat them.

Yeah, because it's really it's a different game. It's very narrow feel. It's narrow, and obviously you're not tackling. Right. So, and I'm actually excited about it.

Right, flag football is the fastest growing sport in America.

Now, for women, it is so huge. Yes, my both my daughters are so upset. They just missed it by a year. Flag for high school for high school. Yeah, they would all played, and now of course scholarships and it's genius for the football teams because what is a common thing?

Women can watch baseball; they can pick it up. You can watch soccer. Obviously, you could pick it up, but they look at football. Go, what the hell is going on? When's this game over?

But you play it. The minute you play it, you understand. Get it. Yeah, I think flag football is great, and yes, females in high school, it's awesome. Awesome, and I'm glad they're doing it.

And let let the girls play; it's great. Do you think, as a guy, you would like to play with the girls in school? Yes, you would have been on the girls' team. Look, that my favorite female sport of all time. And don't send letters, please.

It's just the fact. Was the lingerie football league? It was awesome. Did you report on it? Yes.

Oh, look at Candy at quarterback. Yeah, she also danced for me on Saturday night. But it was awesome. But Look, I have a daughter. I'm a girl dad.

My daughter played soccer, and she would have played flag football if they offered.

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