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On the seventh day of August, right? 2025. And uh tonight. We have a very, very capable young fellow on the board, our producer, Style. Hey, Pastor Aria.
And live in the studio here. She means no harm. She's the studio marm. Matto Lisa. Good evening, everyone.
There you go, right live in here, McCain. And uh also Wait. have none other than my old Patriot, my old co-host, my fellow pastor for many, many years. Pastor Richard Lewis. Welcome, everyone.
Glad to be here.
Alrighty, so we got a lot to get to tonight. Uh, we don't know. We may have uh Peter Glidden joining us, but uh He's been AWOL. Huh.
So we'll find out. Usually he's he's here by now and uh We'll see what happens. He might have got his. you know, last week Uh And the first w was a Uh The first was Friday, and he must have he may have thought that the first was Thursday. He might have been prepared last week.
That's happened in the past. Anyhow. Uh, usually we get a Just before the program, just minutes before He signs in, but uh Who knows? He may be with us tonight yet. Anyhow.
Do you think we can make us who without without Peter? We can. He's always a great asset, but uh we can certainly make it without him if he doesn't show.
So we can do it. I know we can. Yes, we can. Anyhow, so uh well I wanted to remind the folks too that Wendy Wilson is still having her sell speaking of uh you know, medicines She's got the very best natural, all natural medicine. out there.
I know I've been using her for years and years, and she's having a sale twenty percent off of orders of eighty dollars or more. or twenty five percent off uh all refills and that goes on to August ninth.
Okay, that's a good deal.
Okay. That's a good deal. It does. And so that's only two days. That's right.
So tomorrow she they gotta get after it tomorrow, huh?
Alright, the title of the message was Cities. Habitats Of sin and sinners. Ah yet there's one city, one city without sin. And that's where we're at tonight. Uh so Did I get a A a clue for you to choose?
Yeah, we have uh we have Peter with us. Pardon? We have Peter Glinton with us. Oh, we do? Oh, he's made it.
Okay. Oh, you're there. Yes, I was kidnapped by Democrats, but I fought my way out, and here I am.
Well, we knew something it had to be something very important.
Okay. You made it through. All right, you made it just in time because The title of the message was um City's habitat. by sinners and uh sin and Yet there's just one city, and we went through the whole scripture. We started with the oldest city.
Uh on earth. Peter, do you know what the oldest city on Earth is? Um I do not.
Okay. It's called Enoch. It was called Enoch Cain. named it after his son Enoch. And um So we went from that c from that city, we went to uh the Tower of Babel, the city of of Babylon, and That was an interesting thing because if you look up some of your your liberal liberal theologians out there.
Say that virtually Nimrod was a a fictional character. Yeah. I I found that well, not only that, but what other what other book do you think? in Scripture that they said was a fictional character. Daniel!
They thought Daniel was. Yeah, yeah. They thought Daniel was. And Daniel was mentioned in how many books in the Bible?
Okay. Oh yeah. But anyhow, So tonight we're going to start in Revelation twenty one. And let's take a verse at a time. Go ahead, Richard.
Read the very first verse. And I saw a new heaven. and a new earth. For the first heaven and the first earth were passed away, and the first And there was no more sea. What does the very first two uh chapters in the Bible and Genesis describe.
The creation of the earth. The first heaven and the first earth. Yeah. Sure.
So now the last two chapters in the Bible, the book of Revelation, describes. The new talk about the new heaven and the new earth. What passed away? There was something here when Peter talks about it over uh that The earth was purged. And when it was purged it was purged remember.
Uh the elements have were melted. The el elements the the the earth was purged clean over. And Here It was and everything was dissolved with fervent heat. But it was purged. From Sin Uh it was purged from Um Decay Uh everything that's w was unclean.
the earth was purged of. And then he goes ahead and uh well what about uh What about No ocean. There be no oceans. What do you what do you do? Yeah, that says no more seas.
Uh you know our earth is covered by, what, seventy one percent water? Yeah. Actually it's two thirds, two thirds of water, yeah. Yeah, so uh No more seas. It's hard to believe, but this is what God is telling us: the new heaven and the new earth is going to be like.
Well, remember the first heaven and the first earth, there was a lot of water in the atmosphere. Yes.
Okay, above the earth, okay, out there. Uh but and and so the new heaven and ear earth will have that, but There's gonna be a river that runs a river of life, a pure water of life, out from underneath the throne. Yes.
In the New Jerusalem. That's living water. Living water. Amen. And that living water is going to water the entire earth.
Yeah. And uh this is gonna be an amazing thing, right?
Now a fact Did you know that there's actually More Water Underground than on the surface of the earth. Did you know that? No. I did know that, yeah. You did?
Okay, good, Peter. I was probably the one that told you. Yeah, I actually a lot of people don't know that.
Okay, so remember. During the flood, what happened? Yeah, it it came up from the earth, the the uh was broken up and the uh the water come up and also down in rain. Yeah, so yeah.
So Go ahead and read verse two. And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, Coming down from God. Out of heaven. Prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Okay, so John does something here. That he hasn't done this is the twenty first chapter. And for the very first time He identifies himself. He calls himself by name. He says who he is.
Before he just said I, but he's now he says I, John. Yeah. Did didn't did he identify himself in chapter one? No, he was talking about uh No, I don't think he did. Turn to chapter one and say, I'm pretty sure I don't remember.
I know he was saying how he was Uh it was on the I believe the first day of the week, the Lord's day. And Yes, John one, it says the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass, and he sent his and signified it by his angel unto his servant John. Yeah, well, you see. And then he's not identifying himself there. He just said his servant John.
Yeah. Well, in nine it says I, John. who also am your brother and companion in tribulation. This is one nine.
Okay. So, yeah, he he identifies him uh yeah, I thought he had in yeah in the first chapter, but uh now most of the rest of it it you're right. It's it just goes on and uh he just Yeah, because I didn't remember him any time and and I always thought that was interesting. And so Here now he goes and he s he talks about uh He identifies the holy city Uh t he reminds him of a bride. Yes.
Why would why would that happen? Why would the holy city remind him of a bride? It'd be the purity. of a bride Okay, so w when we look at the city, the city's gonna be the walls will be white. Everything is white when a bride wears what kind of a dress?
White dress. A white dress. They're adorned in white. And that's the symbol of what? Purity, right?
And Then he goes on to say. You want me to read three? Yeah, read verse three. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying: Behold, the tabernacle of God. is with men.
And he will do and they shall be his people, and God himself. shall be with them. And be their God.
Okay, so. If we take a look at Zechariah in chapter 13, verse 9, he talks about. Um He's talking now to the nation of Israel over there, and he says these very same words.
Okay. But he's saying, and you shall be my. He's dealing, speaking directly to the nation of Israel.
Now, Now who is he speaking to here? All the saved. All the saved people, yeah. Yeah. And that's important that's an important point to make uh there.
It's not just Israel, it's not or just not Jews or just one race or nation, but we're all one nation as Christians now. In Christ, we're all the one, right? Yes.
There's no Jew or Gentile, no male or female. Right. Right. Unknown.
So Yeah. No, pretty or ugly, right? I guess that's good for us, huh? Yeah. And and God shall wipe away all the tears.
From their eyes. and there shall be no more. Death. Neither sorrow neither crying Neither Shall there be any more pain? For the former things are passed away.
what else is there's not going to be? He said We won't have memory. Of a lot of the of all the things, those those bad memories would be taken away from us. That would be wonderful, wouldn't it? Yeah.
Praise God. And all the uh The regrets and all of those kind of things in our lives. Or taken away. Also no sin. And so here - and he says.
Now the new Jerusalem Uh Jesus had said Yeah, we we're speaking at that point to the apostles, but He was saying that I in my father's house are many mansions, and if I go to prepare a place for you I will return unto you Uh now so here all of this time He's been preparing that place because he's about to return for No. When we take a look at the dimensions of this and and he and he gives us the dimensions of the city. Uh It's about Now there's there's two Um Shapes. Or structures that the height, the width, and the depth are the same. That's a cube or a pyramid.
Right. No. A lot of people think that So that it might be in in the form of a pyramid. I don't know. But I do know this.
That if it was say in the shape of a cube. It would be fifteen hundred miles. And high, fifteen hundred miles wide and fifteen hundred miles deep. Yes.
Now just imagine this. If you put Every floor. in that New Jerusalem at one mile high. You would have many, many, many, many times The land mass of the earth today, the total land mass of the earth, okay?
So think about that. How big of a matching could he build us? Because you wonder. Oh, how can we all have a mansion?
Well, Um I guess he can do it, can't he? He certainly can. And it says it's a new earth.
So It they Earth does not have to be the same size as the the earth now then. It's a new heaven or new earth. Yeah, I'll don't forget now. Two thirds of the earth. Today is covered with water.
That won't be the case.
So you're going to have. Uh you're going to have a lot less people. I we did. I mentioned in the message here A while back, and I can't remember. If uh how many people have lived and died from J from Adam.
And it was somethin' like a hundred and something billion. From animals that have lived and died, okay. But Uh Even With all of these.
Now we know that saved people, those that are saved, but Jesus said. Many are called, but few are chosen. Many will come, but few will enter, okay?
So even even that, let's just say a few. Um It would be a just a small They use Israel, one-third of Israel is used, and God is immutable, He does things. Let's just say one third. That would still be. Uh oh, many bi billions of people on this earth.
Over the years. Yeah, all the people that h have been saved throughout those centuries. Uh there would be you know, and then again our form in heaven. Are we we have new bodies? But you know, are we going to be the same size or Whatever.
You know, you don't really know. I don't think there's any where it says we'll be known by the way we're known known as we were known. But that that could be anything, you know.
Well, we'll. will look the same. It's like if you take Say an old rusty car, and you fix it up, you give it a new paint job. Same car, but it looks a lot different, right? Yeah, yeah.
And you and I could use a new paint job, couldn't we? We could use a need some body work too. The two parts replaced. Remember when all the parts worked all the time? Yeah.
I remember. That's what Peter's here for, to keep those parts working, right? Yeah, sometimes it's not a good idea. Yeah, sometimes my uh automatic windows don't go down.
So yeah. Oh dear. And so he we go we pick it up Verse 5 of you. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. That's what we're talking about.
And he said unto me, Write. for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am the Alpha and the Mega, the beginning and the end. and I will give unto him that is a thirst of the fountain of water of life freely He that overcometh shall inherit all things.
Now who is it that's going to overcome it? Because we already know who Who is going to overcome it, right? Everyone that's saved is already overcomed. And so he that overcometh shall Inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But here we go.
You Democrats, listen up. but the fearful and unbelieving. and the abominable and murderers and whoremongers and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars. Shall have their part. and the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.
Which is The second death. Born twice, die once, born once, die twice, huh? Mm-hmm. You hear that, Democrats? That's your party platform right there.
You just read their party platform. Yes.
Yes.
That's it. We're going to stop there and play. We're going to play a couple of quick little clips here. Before we get into Peter tonight, so go ahead and take it away. Then you absolutely should believe in the deep state now.
This was a political hit job worth about $32 million from the top down in the White House all the way down using agencies like the CIA, the FBI, and the DOJ to kneecap Donald Trump before an election. And maybe he didn't manipulate votes.
However, the way that the mainstream media covered it as fact, and the way that they blew President Trump up over this and smeared him, etc. That's on their hands. And I hope that the DOJ will have real, bona fide criminal referrals, indictments, and that people go to jail for this kind of conspiracy. It's illegal, it's criminal. And thank God that Donald Trump had the courage and he had the strength of millions of Americans also across the country to support him as he fought back against all of the lies, against all of the hoaxes, and against the deep state who was trying to take him out.
That woman that's running for governor, uh o uh oh, what's her name? Nancy Mace. Nancy Mace, that's right. She's been running for governor. And, uh, she hit the nail in the head, didn't she?
Amount of the money. Absolutely. We have another very quick uh Clip for toast from Tulsi Gabbard. Go ahead and Bring on Tulsi. I do, Sean, and I'm referring all of these documents that we have found and uncovered, referring them to the Department of Justice for further investigation.
Accountability and action, not just investigation, but action. Accountability has to take place. The American people's ability to have faith and trust in the integrity of our democratic republic is literally what's at stake and therefore the future of our ability to exist as the country that we know it. This accountability is critical to make sure that this never happens again. Exposing the truth and naming those who are responsible should drive that accountability that has to take place.
I just want to mention quickly, Sean, you mentioned the Steele dossier. That plays a critical role in these documents that we released specifically because James Clapper, James Comey, John Brennan, they all knew that the Steele dossier was discredited at this point. It's not something any intelligence professional looked to as something that could be referenced or should be referenced in any intelligence assessment whatsoever. I know that there were. Professionals who were told include the steel dossier in this January Obama-directed manufactured piece of intelligence, and they protested to people like John Brennan and James Clapper.
They were shocked that it would even be considered. The steel dossier was used in this manufactured assessment that President Obama directed be created, along with many other pieces of intelligence that the intelligence community itself, for months leading up to the election, said this is not credible and should not be used.
Well, you know, for this is absolutely amazing because it's actually happening. I have right here on the House Oversight subpoenas listen to this. Votion. You know, it's it's gonna happen. It's really gonna happen.
We're going to see some justice. I hope so. But Hillary Clinton is Bill Clinton, James Comey, Merrick Garland. Bill Barr And uh others so They're all going to be Subpoena, brought in Um And they're gonna be deposed now. Here In a steady escalation, the GOP.
That investigation into the government corruption and abuse of power oversight House Chairman James Colmer announced on Monday that the committee has issued subpoenas to a who's who of political elites and Deep State operatives listen to this. The sweeping list includes Bill President Bill Clinton, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, FBI Directors James Comey, Robert Mueller. And multiple Form uh former Attorney General. See a lot of the stuff like sessions You know, uh well, I knew Bar, but I didn't know why Sessions was out.
Well, it looks if we find out now. Sessions, who we thought was was one of the white hats was a a big part of the deep state. And so Here, listen to this. The House Oversight Committee is compelling the following individuals to appear for the depositions. A through issues subpoenas.
Hillary Clinton on october ninth. Hillary Clinton. I wonder why he's so far off. Bill Clinton on October 15th. Uh Merrick Garland on october second.
FBI Director James Comey, October 7th. Former U.S. Attorney General William Barr, he's another one. That was working with a deep state. Yes, he was.
And. And he's on August eighteenth. There's probably going to be a lot of flights to Argentina between now and August. Yeah. You know what?
Oh, really? Yeah, he's pulled their passports.
Well, you know, I hope that something happens because the cat's out of the bag now. And if there isn't justice, Unindicted. then I it doesn't bode well for our trust in the new Trump government.
So it's wonderful that these things have happened so far, and they better be followed up on, or there's going to be a lot of unrest in this country. Absolutely. Let me give you the rest of this list very quickly. August twenty sixth, uh general. Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez.
Uh and then uh Jeff Sessions. Um Uh the august twenty eighth, September second, Robert Mueller. That's not going to go far because they've got him. I got an article here. It says Robert Mueller eighty has been living in a memory care facility for the past few years.
We we noticed that he was losing it there when he was uh prosecuting President Trump. We noticed that he had a couple Times where he was confused. Yeah. Well, for the last two years, it says he's been in the memory care unit. Attorney General Loretta Lynch and also.
Eric Holder. Boy, that is a good one there already. Boy, that's a good one there. Yep. And with that, we'll add to that list.
Dr. Peter Glidden. Here's the question for you, Peter, because Richard and I have been trying to figure it out. It seems like All of these women That Trump is important is like the two that we just mentioned, Tulsi Gilbert. Uh Gilbert.
Gilbert, uh you know, the Pambondi uh Ah, the lady that's his spokesman, press spokesman. All of these women seem to be, I mean, just Gorgeous women.
Now, are they gorgeous because they are gorgeous? Are they gorgeous because at our age, at Richard and I? All the women look gorgeous to us. What is it? They're gorgeous because they're gorgeous.
All right, good. That makes me feel better, Richard, right?
Well, you know, uh w the we kind of say that in tongue in cheek, but you know, a person is wholesome and trying to do what's right and uh is uh uh Always looks more attractive than some of these haters and ugly people that just spew the stuff out of their mouths. You mean like the women that go out and In the woods and screaming trees. Yeah, and you know, some of these uh Democrat uh ladies or women, let's not uh be too polite to them, but some of these uh Democrat women They're not really Ugly in the sense, but they make themselves ugly by that hate coming out of them. Are you talking about the view? No, I don't see any wanna talk about those people.
Well, you you know, there's something that you need to be aware of right now because You know, we knew that when they were cussing they were and we wondered what in the world if they lost their minds Why are they dropping the F-bomb? Why are they taking God's name in vain? What's this? They're throwing these tantrums and screaming and yelling. And then they finally said, We're doing that because we want you to know how angry we are that we're angry right now.
Let me uh Let me ask you, Peter, Uh, d does that really mean a whole lot to you that they're angry? No, it doesn't mean a whole lot to me that they're angry. It doesn't mean anything. It's just nonsense, for goodness sakes. It's just noise.
Maybe maybe it bothers style. Style does, uh What does that mean to you? I can't hear it where I'm at. Doesn't doesn't do a thing for me. Yeah, I couldn't care less if somebody's angry.
That's their problem.
Well, then now now we got another situation though, because in this one's could be This could be serious because now What they're doing to to show us and to To r really impress us, they're they're taking ball bats and they're beating watermelons. They're they're taking watermelons and as they Bait this watermelon with a ball bat, okay? They call it it's got a name. They name it. Like they they're one of them's President Trump and I'm sure Maybe maybe they've named a number of watermelons after me.
I don't know. But but I don't know. That doesn't really Yeah. It doesn't really s it doesn't really affect me. I don't I'm not gonna lose any sleep over that, thinking, what if I really was a watermelon, right?
I I'd worry if I was a watermelon, but I don't think we have to worry. I remember when I was a kid I watched one of the Little Rascals episodes and the ones ke kept saying, I wish Stymie was a watermelon, I wish Stymie was a watermelon That that had an impression on me But uh yeah, this is a These day these are things. what what we should worry I mean, these these people Don't know what a woman is. Uh And Apparently, they were not sure about watermelons because they were calling them by names. It reminds me of a few years ago people were buying LeBron jerseys when he left just to burn them.
You still bought the jersey. You're missing the point. As long as you buy the watermelon, I could care less what you do with it.
Well, excuse me, while we're on the subject, this uh Democrat Jasmine Crockett, she's the boss from Hamilton who who screams at her staffers and lays around her apartment all day. And she's known for her foul mouth and being rude to her staffers.
So what's new? Yeah, that's true. We're gonna get uh we're gonna throw it over to Peter. And Peter, what's happening in your world?
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They're held. because for over one hundred years now, we've had a one trick pony in this country. Um allopathic MD directed medicine, which is really great. for trauma care and surgery when it's necessary, military field medicine. That's the wheelhouse of MD directed allopathic medicine.
But for most of the conditions that most people go to the doctor for, most of the time, It's a methodology that does not even attempt to cure the situation.
So, the arthritis is never cured, it's managed. The depression is never cured, it's managed, the heartburn is never cured, it's managed. For goodness sakes. This is why the leading cause of bankruptcy in the United States is medical bills.
Well, why is that? Because what's the most expensive type of medicine? It's the one that doesn't cure anything, the one that just kicks the can down the road.
So post COVID People are starting to wake up. En masse. as to the shortcomings of the conventional medical method. And they're looking for alternatives. And my colleagues and I have 'em.
You know, we practice science-based, clinically verified. licensed and regulated medicine, which attempts to cure the condition. And that's always a better strategy to attempt to cure the problem rather than just manage the problem, right, with drugs and surgery. Yeah, but there's not as m there's no money in the cure. I mean, there's money, but The money's where it comes to Managing it, you just keep.
Pain and pain and pain and pain, don't you? John D. Rockefeller, who was one of the people responsible for the medical monopoly in the early nineteen hundreds, He was quoted as saying a patient cured is a customer lost.
So you're absolutely positively right. There's a gigantic money model built into the whole thing. And Bobby Kennedy's Trying to clean up the corruption inside of conventional medicine. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that. Unless you're God.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And we have had a medical monopoly in this country for over one hundred years. And because of the monopoly, there's all kinds of corruption. really, really bad. I mean, we spend four times as much for medicines as other people in other countries.
We spend four times as much on our medical care, and we're last in outcomes. of all other nations combined and This is a problem, and the reason that it happens is because of the medical monopoly.
So Ironically, But there are alternatives. to all of this nonsense. And they're they have been developed and delivered by licensed physicians. Took me eight years of medical school, right, to become a naturopathic doctor. And I have thirty-six years of clinical experience.
My colleagues and I don't know everything. But we know a lot. and the information that we know, you should have been taught in high school.
So that's why I get up in the morning is to Help people. to get on the other side of health, get on the better side of health, right? There are things that everybody can do right now. From the comfort of their own home. in order to optimize their body's built in God given ability to fix itself.
And this is the most important distinction. Between the nature pathic medical model and the MD allopathic medical model. The MD pharmaceutical medical model is atheistic. It does not believe in God. It does not it believes that consciousness itself is a function of biochemistry.
And that when you die, it's lights out game over. There's no such thing as the indwelling spirit. There's no such thing as God. There's no such thing as life after death. All of these things are fictitious.
And this is absolutely wrong. And this is another reason that the allopathic therapeutics fail as much as they do to provoke a cure. Because the medical doctors bless their hearts. have thrown the baby out with the bathwater in their understanding, their misunderstanding. of the nature of the human body.
Uh, you're familiar with Doctor Peter McCullough? I am. And have you have you seen the commercials he's been running on television? I have. What do you think of those?
Well, I think what McCullough's doing is good. But it's lipstick on a pig. Because all that McCullough is going to do if he's successful is the same thing that Bobby Kennedy is going to do if he's successful. It's going to clean up the corruption inside of conventional medicine. It's going to give more people more access to a system of medicine that doesn't know how the human body works.
and that does not even attempt to cure the condition. We need to keep all these things in perspective. You don't think that that's going to help with the. Um to promote naturopathic. I mean, because what uh what I've seen him promoting i is is the naturopathic herbal type of uh Uh Cures, okay?
I I know that they have the kids who's got the pandemic kids and so on and so forth. Yeah, but see, but what McCullough brings to the table is what a lot of medical doctors bring to the table who get frustrated with their medicine. Because it doesn't take much To be frustrated with pharmaceutical medicine. I mean, nothing is ever cured. The bacterial infections every once in a while are cured.
But the antibiotic therapies are starting to fail And so it's relatively easy for somebody practicing conventional medicine to become frustrated with their medicine. And so what do they do? They look for other things to do.
Now what McCullough should have done has gone to naturopathic medical school. And relearned everything that he's learned because it is a different philosophical approach, right? You cannot be a Republican and a Democrat at the same time. You can't be. You can't be an allopathic doctor and an atriopathic doctor at the same time.
You can't be. There's no such thing as integrative medicine. There's nothing to integrate.
So, what McCullough is doing and what a lot of medical doctors do who are frustrated with conventional medicine. is instead of abandoning their license and going to a different medical school, learning a different way of doing things, They substitute herbs for drugs. They substitute vitamins for drugs, and they use the herbs, and they use the vitamins. In the same way that they use the drug in an attempt to orchestrate a hostile takeover. of the metabolism of the body rather than working with the body's built in God given ability to fix itself.
It's a completely different philosophical orientation. You can't do both. Uh of a a colonel who's a a doctor working for the VA and he was telling people you you really need to take I would take natural herbs. And that's what he was doing instead of yeah, so it's interesting. There is a bit of a change here that's coming.
But, you know, we wouldn't If chiropractor, and I think a good chiropractor is worth their weight in gold, quite frankly. Chiropractic medicine has been extremely effective. It's an extremely effective therapeutic. But if chiropractors started practicing open heart surgery, you would look askance at that because they don't have any clinical training in that. But when medical doctors start using herbs, everybody accepts it as part of the deal even though they have no training in it.
So my position is that, well, it's good that people are starting to talk about things other than pharmaceuticals. That's a wonderful thing. But what really needs to happen pastor is we need medical freedom. We need medical freedom. And this is what um Uh um Um In the days of the Constitution, two hundred years ago, there was a doctor, I'll think of his name in a minute.
He was one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence of Benjamin Rush, He said two hundred years ago, Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution. The time will come when medicine will organize itself into a dictatorship. Restricting the art of healing to one class of people and denying equal privileges to others. All such laws are un-American and despotic. And he's absolutely correct, and that's absolutely what has happened here.
We need medical freedom. We need naturopathic doctors to be licensed in all fifty states. Insurance needs to cover it in all fifty states. Hospitals need to accept patients from naturopathic doctors, and universities need to be encouraged. to do research on naturopathic therapeutics and homeopathic therapeutics and botanical medicine therapeutics and Ayurvedic therapeutics and acupuncture.
Everybody needs a seat at the table. We're light years away from that. Um Chiropractors, they could not, you know, the insurance, health insurance would not cover chiropractors.
Now it does. Yeah, that's right. And my profession right now is is only licensed and regulated in 24 states. And if I were to practice naturopathic medicine, in Tennessee. It's a felony.
I'd be thrown in jail.
Well, let me ask you this. Uh in the in the twenty four states that you you you're in, Uh, are there any of these companies, the insurance healthcare companies, that would insure you guys? Yes, but it's a sticky situation. The answer is about half of them do. But They only cover conventional medical therapeutic.
Yeah. They don't cover naturopathic therapeutics because it's all based on prevailing standards of care.
So if you go outside of the standard of care, you're not going to be compensated.
So even though insurance will cover an office visit, Um partially It won't cover the therapeutics that we recommend, even though they will cover the pharmaceuticals. if the naturopathic doctor wants to prescribe a pharmaceutical and in 24 of 24 states we can do that. then insurance will pay for that. But if we prescribe an herb or a vitamin or something else, insurance will not pay for that. and we're handcuffed as far as What we are able to do diagnostically, we're handcuffed is what we are able to do therapeutically.
So it's not really an even Playing field, even in the states where we are licensed and where we do have insurance coverage. it's it's kind of an unfair deal, right? It's it's you know, it's like when After the Civil War, when blacks were allowed freedom, they didn't have the right to vote, right?
So it's. It's not an equal playing field. We're far from it. We're further along than we were when I became a doctor 36 years ago. Certainly, we are.
But there's a long, long way to go, and Bobby Kennedy needs to be legislating for medical freedom. That is the end sword that will cut through all of this nonsense and give people a fighting chance, as far as I'm concerned.
Well, we need to start a lobbying group. We need to. Uh You know Go after that, like we've done with all the other things, to introduce some pro-life, some. legislation that would do that, that would give you guys a equal footing.
Well, it's a good idea. It takes a lot of money and a lot of organizational skills. And this is one of the problems with my profession, is that there are less than four hundred of us now who have a clue. about what to do clinically and therapeutically with people. And we're all busy.
trying to make a living. Right, and trying to pay the bills and trying to keep the lights on and trying to improve our clinical skills. And it's not easy. Especially because, you know, insurance doesn't pay for a lot of what we do and.
So most of what we have to do is a cash practice. And I I've been doing this for thirty six years, and I'm only It's only been in the last five. That I've actually been able to make a profit every year. Imagine that. You're 31 years.
Working in the red, not because I was bad at what I did, but just because of the whole insurance thing.
So Things are changing and there is positive momentum. And I'm encouraged by that. And you know, I am a bit of a glass half full kind of a person. or glass half empty kind of a person. We really need medical freedom.
But I gotta tell you this. I've been doing radio for 51 years and I'm still not making a profit. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm with you 100%. I know what it feels like. And for some reason, And I don't know what this is, Pastor.
I've thought about this for forever. But it seems like in the culture that we live in. The good guys, the white hats, the people that are telling the truth, the people that are actually trying to help. you know, suffering humanity. We're all on the You know, the crap end of the stick.
We're all at the bottom of the totem pole across the board, across all disciplines. I wonder why that is many times. Could be that the the good Lord knows that uh if we were to get rich uh we might not be able to handle it. We'd You know, he says that uh you know, it's it's easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven. And so maybe he's doing us a favor.
Well, he's certainly keeping us poor. Yeah, for some reason. Yeah, he should. Yeah, so one of the things that I've I've kind of done in the last little while, like the last two or three years. Is I've Given my anxiety over the future.
Um up. You know, I've given it up to God. And it's basically I f I feel like um God knows what's best for me. Um I don't. I'm just going to move ahead every day doing what I can And give it to God and see where I'm directed because one of my favorite sayings is.
Well, how do you make God laugh? Tell them your future plans. Tell them their plans. That's right.
Yeah. I uh I I can't imagine. God's gotta have a sense of humor too. I mean you know, with with his watching Democrats out there You know, I would imagine he's shaking his head.
Well, there are a couple of places in Scripture where it says the heavens roared with the laughter of God, right? Yes, it does. And one of them, Psalm 2, where. where they said that, uh, you know, they're going to They're gonna go after God, okay? And they're gonna break their bands as go after his people and his son.
Uh that that Got his attention, didn't it? Yeah, the scriptures tell, yeah, God, it says God sang, but it also says he left. Yeah, so yes.
Well, you know, Nimrod wanted to climb up on top of his tower and shoot an an arrow he could. I'll bet he'd miss. I don't think he'd hit the the target, but uh Anyhow. You know what we gotta do? We gotta uh w we got people calling in already.
Um so And you ready to take some calls? Yes, I am. And here's what I want to tell the listening audience, and I appreciate the time and the respect and the platform. And all of the questions that everybody is going to ask tonight have already been answered A hundred times over, and the answers are available on my website. And that's why I get up in the morning.
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Well, you know, there are people, Peter, that uh out there that that aren't on the internet well, especially older folks my age that are not on the internet. There's some of 'em. Um that really uh their eyesight is not that good, even if they Could go up on the internet and I hear from these people, they call and they ask for your phone number all the time. And uh so Yeah, that's another way to do it. You can always call my office.
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I like the ring of that, don't you? Yeah, yeah, I yeah. Yeah, I really do. I mean, I've been I've been preaching against big pharma for for years for R Richard, what has it been fif well, fifty years we We were on top of this. You know, when when that when they When our Congress got bought off, and they got paid off by big pharma.
to give big pharma a pass so they wouldn't have to be responsible for the people that they kill. Right. You know, we went to major war on the internet with that with Congress. We returned phone calls and it was uh You know, it was a a major battle back then, but The vast majority of the people that should have been involved, you know, well, it didn't affect them. It didn't affect them purposely.
They should have got they should have got involved, but they didn't. Yeah, let's give them the number to call in to ask Peter any questions.
Okay, it's 888688. six seven seven nine six seven three Eight eight eight six seven seven nine six seven three And of course, the first caller would be none other than Cliff from New York. Hi, yes, I have two questions. But before I just a couple of things I want to reference. Uh the redacted news population.
podcast about a half hour in. on tonight's episode is discussing Messenger RNA. Um There's a brock. That seems like it's new cold. Follow the Science by Cheryl Atkinson.
And uh I'm surprised that sh you know. I think the FBI went after her, but she's really exposing a lot on big pharma And uh the chemical con companies, but one tidbit is she had an interview with a miss angel who had been the uh first woman editor of the New England uh General of Medicine. And basically, supposedly the gold standard, and she's telling her how corrupted it is, and it was almost a lost cause, basically. Uh and how how some uh independent journalists put in a study saying everybody sh a chocolate diet how Cliff, we're gonna go up to a break.
Okay. So we'll let you hang on. Just stay there and we'll pick you up on the other side of the break.
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