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So, what's more controversial than a big debate on the doctrine of election? How about the elections that are coming to the United States this week? The midterms are here. Dr. Sam Horn, it's another Motivation Monday, and we're motivating people to think biblically.
About voting to lay the foundation work, and this is a hot potato.
Some churches are too political.
Some churches are apolitical.
Some churches don't even touch it with a ten foot pole. And then some churches simply say, "Hey, we should protect the unborn," and they're called political for defending marriage, protecting the unborn, and speaking out. Against fiscal immorality, wow, Doctor Sam Horn, you jumped into a hornet's nest, brother. Good to hear you today, man. Yeah, well, I'm glad to be here, Stu, and I'm thankful to live in a country where, in the providence of God, we we have certain freedoms that many of our brothers and sisters around the world don't.
And yesterday, I stood and. In the pulpit of Palmetto Baptist Church, where I serve as a lead pastor, and was able to preach the word of God freely, and and pray freely, and lead a congregation and worship freely, and I'm grateful for those freedoms, and I pray that we we can enjoy those freedoms in the in the providence of God for many years to come. Yeah, so we we live in this this republic. We live in this republic that has democracy abounding, and yet we have forces afoot that want to take those freedoms away. That don't want you to freely preach from the pulpit.
That do not want prayer or Bible reading in the schools and such. And so, your vote. Will have an impact on what happens to the freedoms of our country, a country founded not on Sharia law. No, America wasn't founded on the principles of Hinduism or the caste system. That if you're born, you're born instantly cursed.
Anyone can climb the ladder in America. It's a free country. In fact, folks come here from all over the world. To do that, people are not climbing on tattered rafts trying to escape to Cuba. Doctor Horn, your members aren't trying to get to Cuba, are they?
To escape and and have a new lot on life. I don't see them running to the Middle East in mass migrations. They're all coming here. The problem is, is what happens when the political groundswell of communism and Islam. Becomes more and more popular.
In fact, there are candidates, Doctor Horn, running openly Muslim, and we have nothing against Muslims running for Congress. But when they want to put that worldview in, it goes directly against the freedom. No Muslim run country has the freedoms we have in America, Doctor Horn.
So, how do you communicate this? These principles, these axioms of Of biblical stewardship with voting to your congregation, and what do you say to our listeners out there about the importance of their vote? And if you think we're too over the top, or if you think Christians should kind of back away and stay out of the process, I'd love to hear from you. Eight six six three four truth, eight six six three four eight seven eight eight four. I guess a question could be: Does a Christian have any excuse not to vote?
And then, secondly, is a Christian responsible to vote biblically? Is it not like the stewardship of our money? We don't just throw the Lord's money away. We don't just give to evil entities. We don't invest money with with funds or brokers that are going to put that money to evil use, to sinful use.
We want to have. Wisdom and how we use God's money. We do some investigation, some exploring. Shouldn't believers also hold the same values on the stewardship of a vote?
So those are among the panoply of topics we will talk about. I want to hear from some folks out there. What's your mood as you look at voting, and how how how does your Christian worldview impact your vote? Eight six six three four truth, eight six six three four eight seven eight eight four. Doctor Sam Horn.
Pastor, author, leader, man of God, a talk show host in his own right for many years. What what do you say, sir, about how our Christian faith is it is it something that we kind of set aside when we go into the voting booth, or does it have everything to do with how we vote?
Well, I think actually, Stu, I think we got to start a little earlier than that because I think what what the New Testament is set out to do is to help us realize as believers that we are citizens of two kingdoms, and we have responsibilities and obligations and privileges in both of those kingdoms. And obviously, the one that matters the most is the kingdom of God. And we are certainly citizens of that kingdom as we repented of our sins and put our faith and trust in the finished work of Christ alone, and and we we came into the family of God, but we also came into the kingdom of God, and so we have obligations to that kingdom. We have to submit to the king. We we have to speak for the king and about the king.
We have to represent him accurately and attractively, and and we've got to be bold in in articulating his concerns and and what matters to him more than what matters to us. And so, I think that's where we got to start. We are citizens of a great kingdom. We are subjects of a great king. We are the sons and daughters of a great God, and so that's where we.
Start and then, in the providence of God, all over the world, those sons and daughters have been placed wisely and sovereignly by God in the different nations of the world. And wherever they are, they are citizens of that nation, and they have obligations to that nation. They have responsibilities to that nation, and they have opportunities. In that nation.
So, whether you happen to live in the United States of America, or or you live in Great Britain, or you live in Canada, or you live in Russia, or China, or India. You are there by the provident hand of God as a citizen of heaven, but also as a citizen of that country. And for example, you come to to First Peter, and Peter says, "Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor." Now he's talking there about Rome, right? We don't have emperors in our day, in our country. Supreme, or to governors, as sent by him to punish those who do evil and praise those who do good.
For this is the will of God that by doing good, you should put silent put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. And so, I think as we navigate something like the election, we're going to come at it as first of all a citizen of the kingdom of heaven. Who has also, in the providence of God, been given the opportunity to be a citizen of the United States of America, with a duly constituted governance. And a government that is elected by the people and for the people, and so that's a great privilege that we have. It's also a responsibility that we have, and so I would come at the whole idea of voting and the election, and this is the stewardship that God, in the providence of His wise will for you, has given you because you happen to have been born as a citizen of.
This country, you wouldn't have this privilege in China, you wouldn't have this privilege in India, you wouldn't have this privilege in certain other countries. But you, in the providence of God, have been born in a country where He has given you by His grace. Certain opportunities and certain privileges, and we ought to take those with a thankful heart, and we ought to steward them well. And so that's where I would begin. Interesting, you know, Doctor Horne, just kind of to piggyback into elucidate that one of the tragedies of this is I heard a pundit say last week that ninety percent of Muslims vote in America.
But over forty percent of Christians don't vote, so it's interesting that there t here is a there is an inconsistency with our faith and our practice. And so, maybe I want to throw out some hot potatoes at you, Doctor Warren. You can tackle them quick. You can drill down on them if you want. Among the reasons that some Christians may not vote is, first of all.
My vote may not count. Second of all, well, Donald Trump's a mean guy, and whoever he candidate he associates with, I don't want anything to do with him because he doesn't have good character.
So therefore, I'm not going to vote. Another one is going to be well. The polls don't look good. It doesn't matter anyway because it looks like my side's going to lose.
So I'm going to stay out the vote. Doctor Horn, will you tackle these when we come back? We got to take a quick break. Yes, absolutely. Hang on, Truth Talk Live is coming up more after this.
So, a few things on the table today with this big midterm election coming up. As a believer, the question we are trying to address first is: Should you vote? And I think there is a clear case from Scripture. Doctor Horn just established it that absolutely, it's a privilege, it's a stewardship, and a right that. Other countries would love to have that privilege, and believers in this country have a have an opportunity to influence things.
A stewardship is to like who is the next president, who's the next senator, and then the second question is how do you vote? Because Dr. Horne, some of these ads can be sure convincing. You know, a nice grandfather looking guy in North Carolina is saying, "Hey, I'm going to make I'm going to get rid of these corrupt people." And all this, well, he's been the guy causing the corruption. He's been the guy who vetoed all these pro-life laws.
He's the guy that that that is vetoing bills that will keep boys out of girls' sports, and yet he's he's running openly. Like he's conservative, and yet we know exactly what he's believed, what his record says, and what he's going to do.
So I think another thing I'll throw in there. I just threw a whole, just a whole host of questions at Doctor Horn, who's a pastor who's navigating this with everyone, as to why Christians may sit out the vote when they see a guy like that. They're like, well, I, you know, I'm, well, he seems like such a nice guy.
Well, maybe he's going to lower gas gas prices. Candidates who are who who lean socialist aren't going to lower Any prices, they're gonna they're gonna tax the gas company. Who's gonna have to charge more for gas? I mean, we got to use our brain, Doctor Horn.
So how do you handle that? Then what about people say, well, anyone associated with Trump, I can't. I got to stay away from them because that guy's so mean and vulgar, and I could never vote for a guy like him. What do you say? I mean, to people that that come up with these reasons that may not seem to be biblical, and of course, character matters.
But all these. All these candidates are flawed, Doctor Horne, aren't they? Yeah, absolutely. And so I just come to a place to, and I would encourage all of us to come back to first principles. Right?
I mean, because you can get really caught up in rhetoric. You can get really caught up in in a particular issue of the day that matters to you. You can get caught up in all kinds of things, and you really, in in an election like this, you've got to come back to foundational principles. And one of those principles is you have to you have to live according to your conscience. The scripture is clear that we don't get to just run over our conscience.
And so sometimes you'll you'll run into a good brother or good sister who loves the Lord, and and their life demonstrates that they are they are living godly lives. They are are striving to obey the the word of God in their lives, and they have reached a position on an election or on voting or on a candidate based on their conscience. And at some point, you have to respect their conscience. A believer cannot run over his conscience for expediency's sake. I would never counsel that in any other scenario as a pastor, and I certainly would not counsel that in the case of an election.
So they have to live according to their count to their conscience. Number one. Number two, they have to use their vote righteously. In other words, they they need to to the best of their ability if they vote and they they believe they should and that's part of their stewardship to the Lord. They need to use their vote to advance the kingdom of God and its values more than gas prices.
They need to think about what is my vote going to do to help preserve the things that matter to God, or to help retard the things that offend God in this country. How do I use my vote strategically? To advance the kingdom of God, to reflect the values of that kingdom, and to stand in the way and oppose the things that offend God, it's way more than gas prices. It's way more than who's got a better economic plan, and that's typically how many many people argue.
Well, I don't want this person in because if this person goes in, it's going to impact my wallet in this way. And and we're no better than the pagans when we we operate that way, right? We have the same concerns about gas. We have we're paying the same price for groceries in the grocery store. But but we serve a kingdom that is far greater.
And God said, if we pursue that kingdom and its righteousness, all the things that pagan people spend their life concerned about and running around, He would add to us. And so we've got to live according to our conscience, and then we've got to use our vote wisely and strategically for righteousness' sake. We've got to speak to the things that matter to God. We've got to use our vote as much as possible to advance those causes, and we've got to use our vote to slow down the things that offend God as much as possible. And so, I think those are really important.
And number three, you you have to you have to be informed as a voter. You you can't just go off a political ad. You can't go off a buddy who says, "Hey, I'm gonna call you up and you need to go the poll right now. You need to vote for X." So you really have to give an answer to the Lord for your vote. And so, to the best of your ability, you need to get informed about the people you're voting for.
Who are those people? What do they really stand for? What is their historical record? Are they are they who you may disagree with them on on X, Y, and Z, but are they people who do what they say? What is their historical record, and and so there there is work that goes in to to being a an informed voter.
And thank the Lord, in our country we have voter guides in certain states. We have opportunities to inform ourselves. But if we're going to take the election seriously, it can't just be we jump in our car at ten till five, run to the voting poll, and decide I don't know who to vote for. I'm just I'm just going to throw my vote in there. There's a better way, and I'm suggesting, as Christians, I'm not speaking as a pastor.
I'm speaking as a Christian. As Christians living in a country where we've been given this privilege and people have paid for this privilege with their lives. We ought not to take it lightly. Yeah, and a great example, and a great example, like in North Carolina. I thought this guy Roy Cooper, super nice guy, looks like a granddad, but then you go look at his record as governor.
He every time a bill came up to protect the unborn, even even in the latest stage of pregnancy, when the baby's practically born, he vetoed that bill. He did everything he could to fight for more abortion. He did everything he could to allow boys and girls locker rooms, boys and girls sports, as governor. And yet he's running, saying I'm going to make things cost less, and this and that. In so let let me let me may it not be a misunderstood.
You elect a guy like that, he's going to fight for abortion, he's going to fight for transgender rights, and which are by the way, you know all that stuff with him. That's what you're getting. And yet, so don't fall for the optics, friends. You got to look. It's you know it's it's it's deeper than that.
Jamal is a quick caller from North Carolina. Jamal, real quick. We only have a couple minutes left in this segment. Jump in here, sir. All right, I think I'm taking my call, and thank you for this topic, Stu and Doctor Horn.
I've heard of people say that regarding the Democratic Socialist of America, that they don't really see them as a threat. They're not going to bring here what we see overseas. Your stance, and also Sharia law. Your response. What would your response be to somebody like that?
Well, I think you know my response. I mean, the the the agenda. There's no way in in the world on this earth that a socialist and an Islamic or a Mohammedan would ever agree on anything. But they they have one common enemy: the freedom-loving capitalist and the Christian who allows for freedom. But they are anti.
They're anti-homosexual rights. But again, they'll say things friendly of that side in order to get elected. Doctor Horn, I think we talked about last time. I mean, there is just it's all flowery language, but that that's what's coming. You know, and that that is another impact your vote can have, right, Doctor Horn?
Real quick, because we're out of time. That's why I said a minute ago. First of all, you got to vote according to your conscience. Secondly, you got to use your vote to advance the things that matter to God. And you've got to use your vote to to retard to slow down the things that offend God.
Yeah, and and thirdly, you've got to be wise. You've got to be informed.
So inform yourself about socialism. Find out where it's working around the world. Find out who people are and what their lives are like when they actually live under that economic. Yeah, look how it's helped Romania and Albania and Russia and the oppression in Cuba—horrible. Yeah, and part of being wise is not being stupid.
Yeah, right. I mean, it's actually stupid to think that if it hasn't worked in any other country in the world, somehow magically it's going to work. It ain't gonna lower prices. They're gonna stick it to you. Don't fall for that, Doctor Horn.
You're a blessing. Thanks for coming on, sir. Just a brief time, but very important. Biblical view of of how Christians should vote. Thank you, sir.
