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August 29, 2025 9:18 am

The case of Tyree Nichols and allegations of gang infiltration within the Memphis Police Department have raised questions about the department's leadership and the handling of the case. Meanwhile, the University of Memphis marching band is gearing up for the season, and Melania Trump is facing controversy over her potential inclusion on the cover of Vanity Fair magazine.

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Hope you're having a great start to the long Labor Day weekend. A lot of people out on the roads. As a matter of fact, the Memphis International Airport putting out a statement yesterday saying that upwards of nearly, nearly 50,000 people are expected to evacuate the city for the Labor Day holiday.

So if you are heading over to Memphis International, you're heading down to the Gulf of America for the weekend, well, you need to give yourself at least two hours and just be aware that the parking situation over at Memphis International is a little squirrely these days.

So you want to take extra time so you can find yourself a parking lot. But a lot going on here in the Mid South. We have high school football tonight. Our very own sports director, Parker May, is going to be along a little bit later on with a breakdown of all the big games. And of course, the Memphis Tigers kickoff the season.

There is a lot of people who are A lot of hope and a lot of promise there, and they'll be taking on UT Chattanooga down at the stadium. We always call it the Liberty Bowl. I still call it the Liberty Bowl. That all takes place tomorrow afternoon, 3:30.

So, you're going to want to get out there and support your hometown team. And we're going to have a lot of fun today on the show, but we do have a lot of serious topics to talk about as well. By the way, write down our telephone number. You will need this if you plan on calling into the show this morning. Our telephone number here in Stearns Country: 901-260-5926.

That's 901-260-5926, right here in the principal Toyota Memphis studio.

So, the big story that broke overnight and late yesterday into the evening. Involved the case of Tyree Nichols. And Tyree Nichols, now getting a, or the three of the five former police officers charged in his murder, are now getting a new federal trial.

Now, all of this is because of some comments made by U.S. District Judge Mark Norris, who had recused himself from the case back in June. And at the time, nobody knew why Judge Norris was stepping down. I have checked with some of my sources. And they tell me that Judge Norris, a good and decent man, appointed to the bench by President Trump.

He is known to be a conservative. And it turns out That a series of events happened that are raising a lot of questions and, quite frankly, a lot of eyebrows. And so the reality here is this: we know what the judge said according to the court documents. We know the reality of what happened that may have led to the comments being made. The question is: what are we going to do about this?

Because the judge's comments need to be investigated. And I think everybody's minds need to be put at ease here. But let's just jump right into this. And it all started with a request from the Daily Memphian to unseal records in the case. And when they were finally able to get the records unsealed, They learned, and the media here at Memphis learned, the real reason why Judge Norris stepped aside.

Now, we have a timeline here of what happened in the case. And here's what's causing, and I'll tell you what's causing the controversy. Judge Dorris said, not once. But at least two times, at least two times, that the Memphis Police Department is infiltrated to the top. with gang members.

Now, this comment came because one of his top clerks, one of his top law clerks, was shot In the chest. During a home invasion robbery here in Memphis, And the timing is all very suspect, which is why we need to take a look at this. Uh, so here's the deal. October 3rd, the jury convicted two of the officers of obstruction of justice and found the other guilty on all four counts related to Tyree Nichols.

Now that was October 3rd. On October 8th, The law clerk who had assisted Judge Norris during the trial was shot in the chest during an attempted murder and aggravated burglary in Memphis.

Now in May of the following year, so that was october eighth, in May the judge met with federal prosecutors and an FBI agent about the shooting, and that's when he speculated that one of the officers involved in the case, in the Tyree Nichols case, was in a gang, and the gang actually targeted his law clerk. And during that conversation, he also expressed concerns about the police department, saying it was infiltrated to the top with gang members. And then the following month, just really about, gosh, two weeks later, less than two weeks later, Judge Norris recused himself. From the case, the new judge was assigned, and now here we are. Where the former officers are going to get a brand new federal trial.

So we have a lot of questions, and I'm sure you have a lot of questions as well.

Now, I want to put some of this into context if we can, because all we have right now are the comments coming from the judge. We have no official statement coming from City Hall. The mayor has not issued a statement here. The police chief has not issued a statement. And I think it's important for us to just remind everybody that 99% of the Memphis Police Department, the rank and file, are.

Are good, decent, hardworking men and women who put on the badge, wear the uniform, and they're putting their lives on the line for all of us here in the Mid-South. They are overworked, they are underpaid, and they are underpaid, and they do not have the resources they desperately need to do their jobs. That's the reality of it. But we also know that there was such desperation to find people and we are far below our full complement of officers here in Memphis. That is no secret.

That has been openly discussed. There's there's no secret about that. and there were concerns that Chief Davis had lowered the standards. to bring in new officers.

So the question is. In the process of lowering those standards, Did we inadvertently end up hiring people with known or unknown gang affiliations?

Now, this is not Todd Stearns speculating. This is, I'm just reporting on the accusations being made. By Judge Norris here. And it seems to me, at the very least, what we need to do Is Have an investigation. There must be an investigation.

And quite frankly, it might be a good idea for the state to step in and say, all right, we're going to take a look at this. Because it is very It's very odd, and it's very coincidental, I suppose, that just. A few days after the jury convicted the The law clerk involved was shot in the chest during During this home invasion.

So it does make you wonder. What's going on here? And by the way. The broader uh another question that has yet to be addressed is The district attorney. Did Steve Mulroy's office prosecute the home invaders?

For the attempted murder?

So, we're going to be looking into all of this. Of course, all of this news coming out late yesterday evening. But again, Chief Davis had been under fire for lowering the P D standards.

So Is the judge on to something here, or is he speaking out the Wazoo? That's the question.

Now The judge, again a Trump appointee, he is a conservative and he has been on the bench for a very long time. But there had also been concerns that the feds The U.S. Attorney's Office had not done a thorough job and really did not have enough evidence. to take the case to trial.

So that's where we are right now, and um This is opening up a big can of worms. And we'll see how all this plays out. But right now, ladies and gentlemen, It is not good. It it does not look good at all. And we've got to get to the bottom of it.

And if that involves the state stepping in, And taking a long, hard look at what's going on inside the leadership, the command, the command structure of the MPD, then maybe that's what needs to be done.

So we're going to be opening up the phone lines here to hear your thoughts on this. Our telephone number is 901-260-5926. Do you believe the MPD is infiltrated by gangs? Do you believe that we should have some sort of an estate investigation and get to the bottom of all of this? 901-260-5926.

This is Stern's Country. Let's check in with Commander Chuck standing by with a look at the roads this morning. All right, you know, if that doesn't put a pep in your step, you're pushing up daisies. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Stardust Country.

I'm Todd Stardes. It is 20 minutes past the hour. It is going to be a beautiful day and a great night for football across the mid-south, for not just tonight, high school football, but college football kicking off tomorrow. And that marching band, you heard the best in the United States of America, the mighty sound of the south, our official marching band at the University of Memphis. Just a few days ago, they did a big preview of their entire halftime show.

It was remarkable. We have some more music we're going to be playing from the best marching band in America, based right here in Memphis. As a matter of Of fact, we have an alum of the marching band on staff here at the Mighty 990. Dylan Dandridge was one of the trumpet players for a number of years, a number of seasons, and it was really fun to see him up there and just really having a great time. And you got to love our marching band.

All right, our telephone number: 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. This is the Principal Toyota Memphis studio, and I have to tell you about something exciting involving Principal Toyota Memphis. Many of you know the name Todd Lochner. You hear his voice.

You see him on television. And Todd Lochner, in addition to being an incredible businessman and just such a great supporter and I would say booster of the Mid-South, he is also a great author. And Todd has a brand new book out this week. We had him on the national show yesterday. And his book is really running and gunning right now on Amazon.

The name of the book, and let me give you some background here. This is Todd is a believer in Christ. And he is an incredible businessman, and he put those two things together. To write a book about dealing with what he calls positive compartmentalization. And you're gonna wanna read this book.

It's called Porcupine in a Balloon Factory. Don Piper, who wrote the New York Times best-selling book, 90 Minutes in Heaven, wrote the foreword to this.

So, Todd knows a lot of famous people. It is a great book, incredible cover, and we're going to get him on the show next week to talk a little bit about his book and some of the lessons.

Now, you say, Todd, I'm not a business person. That's okay. It's for everybody. And you can take the concepts that Todd is talking about. For example, learning how to cultivate gratitude in all your circumstances, learning how to apply faith based wisdom to whatever you're struggling with.

Or how to transform a challenge into an opportunity for growth.

So you can take all of these principles and you can apply them to your life, your family, your career, and even your health.

So, I want you to get a copy of this. You can go to Amazon, and I will tell you, it is doing quite well. And you want to get a copy of this. Todd Lochner's brand new book, Porcupine in a Balloon Factory.

Well, also, early, early this morning, and again, going back. To the reason why people love Memphis. And in spite of all the challenges we have, I still believe that we have the greatest city in America. And that's one of the reasons I moved back home. I love living in Brooklyn, New York.

I love living in New York City. But Memphis is my home, and it's your home as well. And we are one of the most generous cities. I think we're one of the most compassionate cities. And a lot of that doesn't make the national news, and I get that.

But early this morning they had hundreds, hundreds of you. Got up early and you joined. The run for Eliza Fletcher, who was killed, kidnapped and killed. Three years ago. Hard to believe it's been that long.

The name of the race is Finish Liza's Run, and this has been going on every year since her death. And it's a way to honor Liza and to retrace the steps she took that day over near the University of Memphis and in Central Gardens. And they're saying more than 500 runners turned out this morning. That's just simply. Remarkable as we remember this precious, precious member of our community.

She was a wife and a mom. She was a school teacher. And She made a difference in this community. I know that. The incredible folks over at St.

Mary's Episcopal School. The new library is. Named in her honor? Liza's Library So anyway, our thoughts are with the Fletcher family today. And also want to say thank you to all of the runners.

Maybe you are out there. Maybe you ran the race today. We would love to hear from you this morning. 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926.

All right. I've got some audio here I want to play. This is. This is just incredible.

Now, a lot of folks may not. realize. But the Cracker Barrel uh founder or the co founder is still alive and kicking. And he is 93 years old. He sat down with a T V station in Nashville.

His name is Tommy Lowe, and he was one of the co founders of the very first Cracker Barrel in 1969. And he sat down with WTVF, that's News Channel 5 in Nashville. And here's part of that conversation. Logo rolled out the other day. Oh, that's crazy.

That's nothing it's the bland nothing. It it uh it's Beautiful. Do you think she knows the story of Cracker Barrel? I don't think so. I heard she was a Taco Bell.

But what's Taco Bell know about a cracker barrel? and counter food. And the f food is is something that to need to work on. Spending $700 million to do that is all I've been doing. That's just throwing money out the street.

Can you believe that? They spent $700 million. I thought that was a typo. They spent $700 million. And that was what they came up with.

Painting the walls white and taking the cracker and the barrel out of the cracker barrel logo.

So, anyway, man, well, first of all, This guy is clearly doing something right, 93 years old, and he is, you can tell the guy is still with it. He knows exactly what's going on. And just like everybody else, he's wondering: what does Taco Bell know about Cracker Barrel? It's actually a very great question, to be honest with you. All right, we've got a trivia question on this Labor Day weekend, a chance for you to win a signed copy of Star Spangled Blessings, the newest book coming from yours truly.

And that book is doing incredibly well. But we want to give you a personally signed copy. You've got to answer this question: What is the name of the University of Memphis Marching Band? If you know the name, give us a call, 901-260-5926. Again, the name of the University of Memphis Marching Band, give us a call at 901-260-5926.

Well, coming up after the break, we're going to be checking in with Parker May, our KWM Sports Director. He's going to give us a lowdown on what's happening, a lot of the game action tonight. Briarcrest football exclusively right here on The Mighty 990. That kicks off at 7 o'clock tonight. Walker Baudry with tonight's game call.

And we'll be checking in with Parker. Also, we're going to be talking about this crazy column written by Otis Sanford over at the Daily Memphian. Sanford is really upset that the University of Memphis has eliminated It's DEI programs. and multicultural programs. And we want to get your thoughts on Otis Sanford.

He says that this is, quite frankly, racism, and he's blaming President Trump. He says President Trump doesn't like black or brown people. I'm curious, what say you, ladies and gentlemen? Our number again, 901-260-5926 as we go to break. That's 901-260-5926.

And our trivia question this morning: Can you tell us the name of the University of Memphis marching band? If you know the answer, we're going to hook you up with a signed copy of my brand new book. It's called Strong. Star Spangled Blessings, Devotions for Patriots, written by my, co-written by my sweet friend, Michelle Cox. She is just an absolutely incredible lady and a great author.

All right, hang tight, everybody. Got to take a quick break. It is a beautiful, beautiful day here in the Mid-South. We've got national news coming up, and Jim Miller is standing by at the top of the hour with your local news. It is a nice, crisp 63 degrees right now in East Memphis.

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Stearns Country. I'm Todd Stearns. It is going to be a beautiful day and really a great Labor Day weekend here in the Mid South. Our very own Laura Huckabee is standing by in just a few moments and she'll update you on your weather forecast.

Also, Commander Chuck will be along in a few more moments with a look at your commute. It's really nice out there. Not a lot of traffic on the roads, a lot of folks heading out of town.

So be careful. The buckies are going to be overflowing if you're on I-40. And Memphis International sending out a note last night, they are expecting nearly 50,000 travelers this Labor Day weekend.

So be sure to back your patience if you head over to the airport. We're going to go right away. To the Patriot mobile newsmaker line and say hello to our good friend. He is the KWAM Sports Director, Parker May. And Parker, this is sort of like, I don't know, Christmas weekend for football fans.

It 100% is, Todd, and thank you for having me on. And it's an exciting time, week one in college football. It's something like no other, the way they do it with Labor Day and they have a Five-day week. Weekend of costume. It makes it really special.

So let's talk about some of the big games. Of course, high school football tonight, you've got Briar Crest. They're going to be playing right here on the Mighty 990. Walker Baudry with the call tonight. Yeah, Brian Chris has got a great opportunity tonight against Kirby.

I'm really looking forward to see. Kinda how they bounce back. Obviously a big win against ECS, kinda need to get some momentum and maintain a full. dominant game here against Kirby. What are let's talk about some of the the big college games.

Of course, University of Memphis taking on UTC. That ought to be a pretty a pretty easy matchup for the Tigers, but you never want to you never want to overlook a team. And that is the tough part when you feel like when an FBS team like Memphis plays an FBS team like Chattanooga is It's very easy to overlook and start looking ahead to maybe a Georgia State game on the road next week if you're a Memphis fan. but Chattamuga is a very good team. I've gotten familiar with them as they play in Sanford's Conference and the Southern Conference and They're a pretty good team.

Satanuga's projected to be in the top two of the conference this season in the SOCONSO. Memphis should be able to take care of business. definitely you're not overlooked. The Mark.

So let's talk about the Tigers. There's been a lot of attention paid to them this season. They had a great season last year. How are things looking for the Tigers and what are the expectations? Men puts another team this year they Fans should expect to contend for another conference championship.

The American Conference is a little down, although South Florida and the American looked very good last night. Yeah. A great non-conference schedule. I think Miss is a great opportunity to get some good wins on the road. as well as have a big marquee matchup September 20th.

home against Arkansas. That's the game I think all Memphis fans Shit out circle. And quite frankly, that's the game that every Memphis well, every Memphis and ought to be at every game, but we've got to pack out the stadium for that game. Yeah, that's the biggest thing, especially with the renovation going on down there at Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium. If Fans want to even have a chance.

to play in bigger conferences, bigger games like that. Those are the kind of games that have to be Sell out.

Well, it's going to be a great season for the Memphis Tigers. It's going to be a lot of fun. And folks need to get out there, see the game, support the team. And, you know, Parker, it's interesting with the new renovations well underway, and they pretty much have the new giant structure up. It's going to be a lot of fun once they get that party deck built in there.

I think it's going to be a great addition. Kind of seen more teams. Do that. Take away a few more upper deck seating and go for more. Party deck Sweet stuff.

And it makes it A great environment. And it's a great place to get donors to be there. Get a new set of fans, a new set of eyes even on Memphis football. On our Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line this morning is Parker May, talking sports here in the Mid-South and our sports update today, brought to you by Ortho One Sports Medicine, the sponsor for our updates. Again, Ortho One Sports Medicine, we love the great work they do keeping us all upright and hopefully off of crutches.

Parker, a big SEC football. I know you're a big Auburn fan. I'm a big Tennessee fan. How's the SEC looking this year?

So the SEC is as loaded as ever. synthetic. Texas and Oklahoma. There could be Six teams that I could see Winning this conference and I think that's what makes Yeah, you see those I mean just from top. the bottom.

Alabama's actually going to be good. George is gonna be good. L S U's gonna be good. Tennessee is going to be good. Texas is going to be good.

And there's a lot of teams in that next tier. that could be dangerous. I think Auburn, Florida Oklahoma are those teams. That could really make it interesting. And it's going to start tonight.

Big game tonight. The Auburn Tigers, as you just mentioned. On the road playing Baylor in what could be a very intriguing game that could have some late season implications. And will also determine whether or not you're in a good mood on Monday. Yeah, it's it's gonna be a big start to the weekend, especially with Auburn playing on Friday night.

That could be a A huge Factor. All right. Well, Parker, we're going to have to leave it there. Great intel, and it is going to be a fun night here on the Mighty 990 as well as Bright Cross Football kicks off at 7 o'clock exclusively on the Mighty 990. And, Parker, you're going to be doing sports updates throughout the season, all sponsored by our friends at Ortho One Sports Medicine.

Yeah. Yeah. looking forward to it. Big thank you to Ortho One sports. medicine and especially Dr.

DeLabach. It was been a big factor. and this really looking forward to getting things started. starting next Friday and then continuing Monday and Friday. Boards update, briefing specifically.

The football season in the mid-South. All right, Parker, we're going to leave it there. Have fun, and we will look forward to hearing from you on Monday. All right, thank you for having me on. All right, there you go, folks.

Kicking off our football coverage here on the Mighty Dine 90 high school and college football coverage brought to you exclusively by our friends at Ortho One Sports Medicine. All right, I want to go to the phone lines. We have Shirley in Memphis, wants to try her hand at trivia. Shirley, how are you doing today? I'm doing great.

How are you, Josh? Shirley, I'm doing you know, I'm doing awesome. It is a beautiful day. It's a sunny day. I don't walk outside and start sweating.

It's a it's it's one this is the best time to live in the Mid South. Definitely not like. Definitely not like. All right, Shirley, we're going to try to help you win a prize here. We need to know the name.

Of the University of Memphis Marching Band, the award-winning marching band. Can you tell us the name, Shirley? Yes, I can because I'm a crowd alumni of that band. It's the mighty sound of the south. Oh, yes, Shirley!

Yes, Shirley, congratulations.

So, hold on now.

So, you you are an alum of the band. Yes, I was there when it was uh directed by Tommy Ferguson. Is that right? Back in the 60s.

Well, I wasn't going to ask you the decade, surely. Yeah, but I'll tell you, I'm proud of it.

Well, you know, we love that band, and it's really something when you hear that fight song and the brass section, they will blow you out of the stadium with that sound. Yes, they will.

Well, Shirley, what do you remember about the marching band? Was that a great experience for you when you were in college? It was a great experience. It was like my second family. uh we're close knit Um We practiced hard together.

And played together. And in fact, I met my husband there. Is that right? That's right. And so you made beautiful music together all these years.

That's correct. That's correct. But it all started with the mighty sound of the south. The mighty sound of the south. Yeah.

What a great story. Shirley.

Well, thank you for, first of all, thank you for listening to the mighty 990. And we're just so excited that you called in today. We're going to put you on hold, and Cassie will get your information. And we're going to send you a signed copy of my newest book, Star Spangled Blessings. Oh, well, I'm looking forward to it.

I loved your One of your previous books that I have is Our Daily Biscuit.

So I'm looking forward to it.

Well, we have new recipes in this one, too, Shirley.

Okay. Those are even better. Yes. They're not certified by the Make America Healthy Again movement, but they sure are delicious. Shirley, hang tight.

We're going to get your information, folks. We've got to take a quick break and pay some bills. Also, Commander Chuck is standing by with a look at your traffic. Our telephone number, 901-260-5926. Were you a member of the mighty Sound of the South?

Do you have some great memories? Shirley met her husband in the band, 901-260-5926. This is Starnes Country. All right, a little bit of happiness. Great marching band music.

That is the Mighty Sound of the South, the official marching band of the University of Memphis. And just a few days ago, they put on a preview concert. And what a great crowd, great time, and the music off the charts. You are going to be entertained at this year's football games. And what better statement does it send to college football?

For the University of Memphis to pack out those stands.

So, the only way we can do that is if all of us get out to the games, and we certainly want to encourage you to do that tomorrow, 3:30, is kickoff the Memphis Tigers taking on the UTC mocks there.

So, with the University of Tennessee Chattanooga, by the way, there is a lot to do, many people getting out of town for the long weekend. But if you're sticking around, there's still a lot of stuff to do in the Mid-South. If you're a big theater fan, well, Theater of Memphis, which is one of the top and I believe oldest community theaters in the nation, man, do they do a great job with their shows? They are putting on a production of Something Rotten, and that airs, let's see, it goes through September 7th.

So, that's a wonderful event if you're looking for something with air conditioning. Shelby Farms, by the way, for 901 Day, sponsoring a huge health fest called Healthier 901 Fest. They're going to do all. all sorts of great things, fitness, food, music, giveaways. I I don't know what they're doing, the goat yoga.

But it's a little weird. I thought about trying to go yoga. But I don't know about that. I'm not too sure I want a critter standing on top of me. And of course, there are full festivities on Beale Street Monday for 901 Day.

So, if you want to get out there in the daylight hours, you'll be able to do that. And a lot of vendors will be out as well.

So, a lot of fun things happening in the Mid-South this weekend. All right. And by the way, if you have something that you want to promote, maybe your church, your local organization, you're doing something this weekend for Labor Day, give us a call and we'll let you share that on the air. 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926.

So, last night, On my Newsmax show. We weighed in on the controversy surrounding the First Lady, Melania Trump. The most beautiful first lady in American history, in my estimation. And Vanity Fair, you know, all the magazines, the fashion mags, they refused to put Melania Trump on the cover. And now, all you know what is breaking loose because the new editor of Vanity Fair wanted to put her on the cover.

And the woke fashionistas said, if you do that, we're walking out.

So we had a conversation about that last night on Newsmax. Let's take a listen. Joining me now is Katie Zachariah, political strategist and Amy Robbins, host of the Amy Robbins show. Katie, to you first. Your thoughts on the Vanity Fair Stanfords threatening to walk out.

Let them walk out, fire them, get rid of them. I'm so sick and tired of companies and corporations not having the courage to do what's right. What is right here? Putting Melania Trump, the first lady now second term on the cover of Vanity Fair. And if people are upset about it, too bad.

It's their problem. And she needs to be on that cover. She is without a doubt the most beautiful first lady in the history of the United States. And she has this elegance and poise. And she's really not highly political.

So Vanity Fair throwing a tantrum with some of their mid-level staff, I think it's outrageous, Todd. Yeah, Amy, I just don't get this. Why would you not want to have one of the most beautiful women in the world gracing the cover of your magazine for crying out loud?

Well, Todd, thanks for having me on today. Look, it is excluding Melania Trump from the cover of Vanity Fair is as ridiculous as excluding Rucky Balboa from a sport movie montage. It was just, it's unthinkable and it's un-American. And yet, none of us are surprised by the comments from the Vanity Fair staffers because the left is really good at doing one thing: exposing their own hypocrisy. If you remember, these are the same people who are always preaching to us about inclusivity and supporting women at all costs, unless, of course, That woman happens to be a conservative.

So I say Vanity Fair. Take advantage of capitalism. Put her on that cover that she deserves. And I bet you sell a whole lot of magazines.

Well, not only Vanity Fair, of course, Vogue magazine, both publications refusing to put Melania on the cover. And by the way, they do this a lot with the Republican first ladies, the graceful Nancy Reagan, for example.

Meanwhile, ladies, Michelle Obama, it's like, what, three times in Vogue? Jill Biden, Mrs. Dr. former first lady, Jill Biden on the cover twice. What am I missing here, Katie?

Yeah. Well, the hypocrisy of the left, as Amy spoke about, but really we get to the heart of who picks. Up vogue any longer, and I think what Melania Trump has said is: this is a little bit, she didn't say this out loud, but this is the quiet part: that this is a little bit beneath her now. Playing in the politics of a magazine, who buys magazines? I don't remember the last time I picked up a magazine and purchased it.

She deserves this, but to sit and fight about it is so beneath Melania's class and poison style. While everyone is squabbling over this, she's actually doing things like she's doing this AI challenge this week that matter and that will matter for history. I think, Todd. Amy, I got to tell you, the the Rush used to call them the feminazis. They're going to come after me here for asking this question, but I don't get it.

I'm trying to understand the beauty standard here. Michelle Obama is the standard, I guess, and not Melania Trump. Yeah, I mean, look, we all know that it's part of the less religion to hate Trump and hate anybody associated with him, including his absolutely beautiful, classy, and fashionable wife, Melania, who, like Katie said, is absolutely deserving of the cover of this magazine for the very sheer fact that she's an international supermodel. You think about the standards of the women that Vogue have. Previously put on their cover, and hands down, Melania should be on that cover.

Yeah, again, Katie, when you go back to the attacks, and of course, this is all about politics. We're all made in God's image for crying out loud. But it seems to me politics is more important here, and they think that Republican women are ugly based on their politics.

Well, it seems that the Republican women and conservative women are hot right now and have been for a long time, MAGA, the MAGA women. But what I also think here is Melania has this timeless air about her, this Jackie Kennedy, Nancy Reagan, but also as said, an international supermodel. She just really carries a poise and truly could be a beautiful inspiration to young women. Her gorgeous, classy outfits, everything so meticulously put together and well done and well appointed and also just perfect for the occasion, not so loud. Like Joe Biden's outfits were so, so loud and obnoxious.

And Melania really could inspire women and young women to dress well. And Vogue has this huge opportunity to reshape themselves in Vanity Fair as well. But they're not going to. And even if they do, I think at this point, Melania knows that her class and poise is above them. All right.

That's a chunk of the interview. And if you'd like to watch the whole thing, you can go to ToddSterns.com. But look, good for Melania Trump rising above all of this. Hey, I've got to give a shout out to the Millington Family YMCA. What a bunch of great folks over there.

Their young lifeguards being credited with saving an adult who was swimming laps, had a medical emergency and was face down in the water. The lifeguards jumped in, they performed CBR, they gave the person emergency medical care and kept the person alive until first responders arrived. And thank goodness, the swimmer doing okay, released from the hospital and recovering. And we understand the Millington Family YMCA actually honored the lifeguards with a hero awards ceremony. Good for you guys, and God bless you folks over at the Millington Family Why?

Folks, we've got to wrap it up. It has been a great day. Have a wonderful Labor Day. High school football tonight, 7 o'clock. Jim Miller coming up next with your headlines.

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