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Coming up. Emmy nominated actor Carolina Weedra. And now, it's Rich Eisen. All right, everybody. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air.
First two hours, if you missed it, there's our podcast version. There's our Disney Plus page. It was a great conversation with Ian Rappaport telling us why the Vikings made their move with Kyler Murray, when the Falcons and the Browns might make their moves at quarterback. We talked about is he back yet? Aaron Donald is still not back yet.
And then, an hour or two, we spoke with Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas about everything going on with the Bills. Um, he said Bijan has got the best shot to win MVP as a running back like he did back in the day. Like I said, those are the ways for you to check on this show if you missed it. Fans of Pluribus, stay right where you are. The Emma-nominated actor who plays Zosha is in our green room.
Just had a very nice chat with Carolina Wiedrup. We're going to have a fun chat with her. More of your phone calls, 844-204-Rich. Number to dial. The phone lines are completely lit.
We'll get. To you on all of that front. George McCasky, the The uh owner of the Chicago Bears. Came out. and said Don't know where we're going to wind up with a new stadium.
Could be Hammond, Indiana. Could be Arlington Heights, Illinois. A lot of people think it's going to wind up being Indiana. The only thing he would allow. Is that wherever the Bears wind up?
They will not be called the Indiana Bears. Oh, thank goodness. They will be called the Chicago Bears. Can you imagine? And I understand, you know, hey, how could they be called the Chicago Bears if they're playing in Hammond, Indiana?
That's a good question. The New York Jets and Giants play in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
Now, I know that's much closer to the city of New York as the crow flies between even the most southern part of the city limits of Chicago and Hammond, Indiana. Yeah, I mean, it's right there. But it's still, the Jets and the Giants play in a different state. Right.
Okay. The 49ers play in a different state, it feels like.
So far, if you try to get it down to Santa Clara from the southernmost part of the city limits of San Francisco, California. But they're closer to San Jose. Yeah. You fly in a like it's easier to fly to San Jose. 1,000%.
If you go to a San Francisco 49ers game, flying in a San Jose is much better geographically safe than flying in an SFO. Do you know the way? I do actually know the way to San Jose. You way it. Couldn't say that back in the season.
Yeah. So Listen, uh I would love for the Bears to stay in the state of Illinois, with all due respect to our friends in Indiana.
Okay? I mean,. It would make complete sense. Certainly, since the Bears bought the set at Arlington Heights and raised a horse racetrack to the ground. Right.
They bought it three years ago. What are they going to do? Go to Hammond, Indiana, build pickleball courts? That's the way it's true. You know, maybe they will.
I don't know.
So In the meantime, Ben Johnson made an interesting headline saying he wants to set the record for all. Highest scoring offense in a season. Great feature in the athletic right now about Ben Johnson, where he made that quote. Yeah. I love it.
And people are taking offense. He knows exactly what the 13 Broncos scored, how many exact number points per game. And he wants to. What did he say? I want blowouts and shutouts.
Shut out. Yeah, man. I mean. That's a team.
So now all the other teams are like, it's great. He is Apologetically placing a target Right there on his back. And that of his team.
Well you call these guys red Red asses? Red asses. Oh, yeah. Boy, he takes it to a new level. Oh yeah.
Yeah, I mean whether it's Playing for the Green Bay Packers or covering the team and forgetting to put your phone on, do not disturb on his podium right in front of his microphone, whatever it is. He's got a certain way of doing things, and he does not care what you think about the way he does things. And the Chicago Bears have got Caleb Williams. He said Luther Burden, who's got some Amon Ross St. Brownish traits.
Yep. Luther Beast. Threw that out there about his guy. Beast, beast, okay? You want shutouts?
I did see Dennis. Speaking of the man who's in charge of those shutouts, I did see Dennis Allen in. In Canton there, as you know, obviously for Drew Brees. Um Yeah, man. Oh yeah.
So He's putting it out there. For the Chicago Bears. Who won their division last year and damn near made the NFC Championship games? And nobody expected them to do that. Certainly, since they lost their opener against the Minnesota Vikings in division on a Monday night.
Damn near pitching a shutout only to have J.J. McCarthy torch them in the fourth quarter. And then go to Detroit where he left. And had that team Drop a 50 burger on them, and they're 0-2. And suddenly You're thinking, oh gosh.
Oh my. Oh my. Right.
Oh my. Yeah, that's what you think. Yeah. And then good, better, best. Never let it rest.
That's it. I love it. Put a target on there. Those Indiana Bears. Oh, those Chicago Bears.
My bad. No Bears. Oh, baby. I just heard Adam scream from the back. They open at Carolina.
Interesting week one game that I think will be under the radar for a lot of people. I thought they should have been in Seattle, man. End of story. That game's not until the first week of November. They put them on a Monday night.
Vikings at Bears, Eagles at Bears. That's a Monday nighter. You know, the Eagles want a piece of Chicago. They would love to take this whole thing about shutouts and blowouts and 37 points a game and just say, okay. We're going to do to you what you did to us the day after Thanksgiving, which was punk us in front of our home crowd.
You got punked. There's that game at Green Bay. Everybody in Wisconsin has got that thing circled. Come up the toll road and have. Mm-hmm.
Matt LaFleur gave you the swim move after the uh After the game. There's that game against New England on a Thursday night to kick off week seven. The game against Seattle as well, Tampa. Oh, baby. I'm excited for the Chicago Bears season for you fans, but it won't be called the Indiana Bears no matter what.
So Hmm. By the way, George McCasky. Great job umpiring for the Savannah bananas. Did you see that one? Did you see that?
No. Yeah, when they were in Wrigley. Oh, really? Yeah, man. That's cool.
He umpired. Good job. He's got a great sense of humor. I know Bears fans were upset about the team moving in, yet I don't kind of want to hear that. Yeah.
But Bears win total 9.5. I'll take the over on that. Oh yeah. I'm with you. Shout outs.
Blow out. Blow out. Shout out some blowouts. Let's go. Um I've got a four downs.
Okay. On the Pittsburgh Steelers. Hey. All right, hit it. Hit it.
Four downs with Rich. Here we go. Why did he suffer? All righty, everybody. My four downs on the Pittsburgh Steelers, everybody.
One and done against the Texans last year. And then big time changes, and that is the first down. What in the world do the post-Tomlin Steelers look like? 19 years. I sound like the old lady at the end of.
In Titanic. It's been 84 years. What do you look like? And everything else is based off of that. There's been one way of doing things, and the Steelers fans are like, I will, many of them are like, why you keep capering for this guy, Rich?
Want him out. Let him go do the media, which he now is on the NBC. Um what do they look like? because it's pretty amazing. Mike McCarthy.
Former toll taker, right? Guy who would sweep up floors, what, you know, mop up floors in a family establishment, right? Western PA there in Pittsburgh. How about this, man? He gets to say, I've coached the Packers, Cowboys, and Steelers.
That's pretty good. It's kind of amazing. It is kind of amazing. I know. And he's back together with Aaron Rodgers.
It's, dude. Can you make it up? I'm going to win the Super Bowl for the Green Bay Packers with Aaron Rodgers and prevent the Steelers from winning another one with Mike Tomlin. And then one day, I'm going to be the one to take over for Tomlin after having coached the Cowboys And then the guy who's going to be the quarterback is going to be Aaron Rodgers, who decides that I don't want to retire. I'll play one more year.
Because it's Mike McCarthy in part. And I have stuff I want to write. But and and I understand it's just like wait a minute Following up Tamun, without another 30-something coordinator that's never done it before somewhere else. Exactly. And just follow it up with: Noel was that guy, Cower was that guy, Tom and was that guy.
And we're not going to find who that guy is. I thought, like, Jesse Minner, for instance, right? Like, coordinator, who's never defensive coordinator, who's never done it. Head coach somewhere before, but is ready to just be there for another 20-year run. But we were Marcus Freeman.
Right, with another, right? That's what you thought. But the bottom line is: if you're gonna follow up Tomlin after 19 years. Do you want to have somebody who's never done it before, or somebody who's just like, I know the way you've done it here for 19 years, but I know how to do my way? And I'm going to bring that way here.
So, the whole idea of a culture change, you kind of take that off the table. It's like, how are you going to establish yourself?
Well, McCarthy's going to be like... What are you talking about? I know here's my system. Here's the way I run things. I've proven it for two other Blue Blood franchises.
Although one I won a title for and the other one is still waiting on an NFC championship game appearance. Still, after 30 years.
Sorry, I got to keep bringing that up. It was unnecessary, though. What's it going to look like?
So that brings up second down. Can the Steelers' offense be explosive? Can they be explosive? That's the question. Because it seems like.
How many times, unless Rogers throws one of his zingers to somebody who's wide-ass open, or a couple of times, didn't he find Fryermuth a bunch of times to gash defenses? It's not like he didn't do it last year or couldn't do it last year. I don't think the offense last year wasn't explosive because Rodgers' arm can't deliver the football. It just, they didn't have the explosive players, and the one guy that you could have called explosive on their team last year. Right.
Because we didn't see it enough from DK Metcalf. Was Uh was Kenneth Gainwell, and he's gone.
So, what are we going to do here? You've brought in Pittman from Indianapolis. It's time for my guy, Roman Wilson, who was J.J. McCarthy's number one target in the national championship team at Michigan. It's time for him to spark.
You know, you got Jeremy Bernard in the draft. You missed on Makai Lemon because the Eagles sniped him before you could go. If you remember that, they were on the phone welcoming him to the Steelers. Wait a minute, why are the Eagles calling me? Right?
They got an offensive lineman for Rodgers in this offense instead, but can they be explosive? That's a. I don't know.
Yeah, note on that, Rich. 11% explosive play rate on dropback passes, 26 in the NFL. Third down, how fast can the defense return to steel curtain form? How fast can we get that? Patrick Graham's the DC now.
Okay. McCarthy brought him in after a four-year run with the Raids. The Raids. They um they add Jamel Dean to the back end. He had a super year for Tampa.
Jaquan Brisker is a safety that they added. Sebastian Joseph Day as well on the defensive line. You know? Could the draft have helped? Don't know.
Don't know. They still have. TJ Right. Cameron Hayward's back for year 93. He is.
And he's as dominant as ever. Yep. And the rest of the defense you could say is a little bit longer in the tooth. I don't know.
I mean. Charlie Porter Jr. But they have some players, man, who can go hunt. Hunt if they are healthy. That's the third down.
Fourth down. Is a simple question, and it's no offense. He would even say that he probably hears it and pisses him off or whatever, but how much does Aaron Rodgers have left in the tank? Three instances in NFL history of a quarterback at age 43 or older attempting at least 100 passes with a passer rating over 70. You want to guess where those three instances are?
Paul Tom Brady. That's correct. Uh last year. Um He became just the fifth quarterback at age 42 or beyond to attempt at least 100 passes and post a pass rating above 76 and a half.
So he he took care of business there. Um And again, you know. He clearly isn't running like the old Rodgers, let's be honest. I mean, he will be 42, right? Arm strength, though.
That ball just flies out of his. Hall of Fame arm. It just does. And if Pittman and DK Metcalf can get some help. from a run game that really was not very I mean Gainwell did much of his His damage through the air.
Yeah. Right.
Jalen Warren would gash every now and then. The kid from Iowa, their running back, their rookie running back, they need something from him this year.
So And then let's see what they can do in the playoffs if they make it. Which they have a roster to do, let's be honest. It's not like this roster is completely empty. And that's my four downs on the Pittsburgh Steelers. I give you the floor if I've missed anything.
On this front, yeah, I think you hit it with the explosive plays that you know, they just don't scare you offensively. And that's kinda where they're at right now. They need something from Michael Pittman. That was a huge addition. But do you know who puts up points?
Mike McCarthy's offense puts up the least. Yeah, but there's CD-WAM's not out there. You know, DK Metcalf. DK Metcalf isn't in their office. Is no slouch on that?
I don't know, man. Kittman was a great ad. I thought that was a real smart play. It feels like DK's best days are behind him. Why would you say that?
I don't know, my eyes work. Come on. Come on, fifty nine catches, eight hundred and fifty yards, six tuddies last year. I like the running backs. I like Warren.
I like Rico. Hit him with the Rico Dowell. Forgot. Dowdle being added. Yeah.
Dowdles added. I missed. For a guy you gave all that money to. You need more than 59 catches. Who DK you're talking about?
Yeah. Oh, I hear you. I hear you. And again, it's not 'cause Rogers couldn't deliver it to him. I just don't think there is.
I mean, he had that one game in Europe where he's he. He grabbed he won he took one of the house and I'm like that's the DK That was explosive. Um Look, he's only 28, DK Metcalf, and. I know. It's not like it's over.
It's not like it ain't. 200-yard games last year. I know. I had him in fantasy. 844-204 Rich is the number to dial.
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And that's why you're Emmy nominated. Our radio audience has returned Carolina Wiedra of Pluribus, which you can catch right now on Apple T V, the first season, just absolutely remarkable. It's already been renewed for season two, probably was the minute Vince Gilligan said, I'll do it. And I'd love to get into that part of it.
So because again, for those who may not know, there's coming from outer space. a virus essentially that gets loose on planet Earth That affects almost everyone on Earth, except for Ray Sehorn's character and a handful of others. And it becomes like a hive mentality where you lose your Individuality. Individuality. Yep.
And it creates this question of like, would you, would you? like to be happy all the time, but you would lose your individuality if you do that. Yeah. And how was it explained to you, though, when you first received a script to play your character in Plurivus?
Well, when I uh auditioned for it, I didn't know anything about the world that he created. I just had a description of Zosha kind of I didn't understand who Zosha really is. When I auditioned for it, I just had she's pleasant, she's likable. That was my first audition. And then when I tested for it, I read the first two scripts.
And so I got more of the world that he created. And then I would have to ask him so many questions. I was like, wait a second.
Okay, let's let l break it down to me w how you envision these people to be, how they move about the world. And We talked about the there's the side of there's one side of them that they are very pleasant, happy, content. They don't have the full spectrum of emotions as a regular person. They are fully fledged human beings, but they don't operate With, you know, with being able to be angry, or they don't experience grief in their body, they have the memories of that, but they don't. They don't have it in their body.
They're just Happy and they can perform anything and everything at the highest level of humanity. Anybody that's been affected by this virus.
So it was. I mean, the idea is so big, and you know, when I first read it, I was completely overwhelmed and excited and just Yeah, it's it's just so big, the idea of like one person being everything. Kind of like Chad GPT. Kind of like, you know, it's a bit of a, it's, you know what I mean? I think he's, but Vince was here when Pluribus came out.
And has he ad I don't think he he it Intended it to be an AI criticism. But everyone kind of feels that it is.
Well, what's incredible is he had this idea ten years prior to where AI was was there, but it wasn't in the conversation yet. Right, sure. In the mainstream conversation to where it is today.
So It's just incredible. What I find incredible is that Vince Gilligan is tapping into something so, so other otherworldly. Do you know what I mean? That he had this idea and so relevant today. Yeah.
With everything that's happening, right?
Well, the way that he does it too, I mean, the first episode of Pluribus just, it had me at hello. First of all, I'm just such a fan of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul that I'm in on whatever he wants me to be in on. Oh, my God. Trust me. I was the same way.
And so when, and by the way, to be able to act in it has got to be remarkable. And we'll get to that in a second. But I just loved how, you know, when the virus takes over and Ray Seahorn's character realizes that something. awful is happening and she doesn't figure it out. That the collective, I would say the high.
Yeah, for sure, it's the collective. Because they kick away. There's a phone number at the bottom of the screen. Like she turns on her television set and they're basically talking to her. Like the Secretary of Agriculture of the United States is talking to her through the and if I'm not mistaken, the phone number actually, if you called it, really exists.
Yep, yeah, yeah. Which is so cool.
So you could, you would get a recording and then you could actually interact with it, which is a great me out, right?
So it gets me in, but then it's a slow burn that I don't. quite understand what your character You know, your character first. Is introduced is what you're naked flying a plane or something like that, or did I get that? I'm no, I'm not, I'm wearing a ji-hob.
Okay, and then, yeah, and then I'm flying the airplane, uh, the C-130, which I actually got to taxi for real. For real, for real, yes, like for real. I got to taxi the C-130 at the Albuquerque airport, which is. I mean, it's so insane if you really think about it. I'm still pinching myself with all the things I got to do and.
Originally, I wasn't gonna do it because the pilots felt for safety reasons they were like, But listen, like she's not a pilot. That's it. We're not sure we can do it. And then after the we spend the day talking and discussing how the plane operates, and they saw how serious I am and how You know, I'm taking this role very seriously, and I was very curious, and they felt safe enough where they allowed me to do it. And again, that indicates for those, again, But Again, the fact that You are connected to every other being on planet Earth who has been affected by this, which is every being on planet Earth with the exception of a handful.
There's a pilot. in the hive who can download you with the information on how to be right, the best pilots to d download you on how to fly one of those. Absolutely.
Well, every individual every every and not but every person individually can perform open heart surgery as the greatest surgeon in the world. I everything I would perform would be at the highest level of humanity. What an idea. It's it's wild. And so y you know, when I was I in episode nine, I am on the helicopter, so I would get lessons of how the helicopter works.
And Um and she's the greatest pilot as a helicopter pilot, she's the greatest, you know, airplane pilot, whatever it is, she's the greatest at.
So, whatever I do anything, I have to do it. That also lives in my muscle memory. The croquet game, when we play the croquette game, you know, I'm the greatest player.
So, you know, it's it's just so it's just so fascinating and so wild, but I have to rehearse for every single thing.
So, it lived in my body, so it looked like I've done it millions of times.
So, is there anything that you've been asked to do that you're actually really great at? Taxing the C-130. Never knew you had it in you, huh? No idea. Wow, until you try it.
I guess all of us, that's inspirational to all of us here. You never know you'll be able to taxi a C-130 until you actually ask to do it by Vincent. It's an incredible plane, by the way. It's such a beautiful machinery. I was quite blown away by it.
And again, it's just, it's like breaking bad in the fact that. What would you do if you were put in Walter White's position, right? What would you do if you- Are you asking me that? No, I guess I'm asking the collective.
So, anyway, in a way, I'm asking you that.
So when you're sitting like, would I do what Walter White's doing? Would I not do what Walter White's doing? And in this case, with, you know. Ray Sehorn's character, what would you do if you're essentially one of the last people on earth with your own ability to think and feel? And everybody else around you is not.
Would you just say, you know what, I'm just going to go with the flow? And be like one of them. Oh, would I be Diabate? Would I be Mr. Diabate who did that?
Who's just like, I'll take advantage of this world and have beautiful models around me and enjoy myself. And just tell me. I wouldn't do it. I'll be Carol, I think. Or there's Minusas, right?
Who's like, let's nuke him, let's destroy him, let's murder them all. And she's like, you know, Carol's like, wait a second, there's another way. There's a more gentler way. And I think, I mean, yeah, I'll be Carol. Her wife dies.
She's grieving. I would probably take a few Xanax, probably drink a little bit, calm down, and then try to save the world. Right.
And then would you? And she's the only one, by the way, because everyone is kind of okay with what's going on. She seems to be the only one. She seems to be the only one. For humanity and self-preservation, self-thought.
Like, what would you do if you were in that position, which is just a fascinating question that Pluribus puts in front of people? And so I'm wondering: has Vince told you where this is going? I wish I could tell you I do know. I have no idea. I'm dying to find out.
Really? Yeah. But I love that because even in the first season, I didn't know where it was going. Right.
I would get the scripts as they would come out and I would discover the series as with every script that came out, which was really fun to go on that ride not knowing.
So you do, like. You broke for s finished. S shooting season one. You haven't gotten a s a a single syllable for season two yet? No.
Wow. I just know he's very excited about it. I cannot wait to read it and see. Yeah, I have to do it. When are we getting to this part?
What have we got? Is this is am I asking fight club type things you're not allowed to say? Is that what you're doing? We're gonna start soon. We're gonna start soon.
I know that much. I don't know if I can read you all the dates, but it's hotel space in Albuquerque. There you go. It's soon enough. I cannot wait.
I'm really excited. And, you know, the cast, we love each other so much. I'm just, I just, I can't wait to be back together. It's such a blessing when you go to work with people that you love and admire. There's nothing better.
You got a favorite scene from season one? that you're proud of. In particular, you know, I really love episode eight. I love the scenes in episode eight because at the Which is what? Episode A?
Which is which is episode? It's where you see the there's an evolution that happens between Carol and Zosha. There's a shift to their relationship. Because prior to that, there's a dance that Zosha does with Carol all the time, not to go too far. And, you know, she's making sure that Carol feels safe.
And everything I do is to for Carol feels seen and for her to come join us. And then in. Episode 7, when she goes through the loneliness, she calls for me. I know that we're allowed to go further into the relationship, and then there's a transition of how we behave and how we are, and then we get intimate, and the mango scene, and all that happens in episode 8, which I really enjoyed. We had so much fun shooting that for many different reasons.
Part of me wants Carol to be happy. watching this, okay? But also part of me want knows that if You bring her over, humanity's over. And well, there's still 12 left. 11 left.
I hear you, but she seems to be the only one that's actually fighting for what's the right part about. living life, you know? But let me ask you this though. Yes, it's true. But if you think about what the others have to offer, and what was great, we had these arguments on set all the time.
Yes, is all that to bring back the humanity, but what the others have to offer, is it really that bad? It's pretty incredible. They care about the planet. There's no prejudice, there's no racism, there's no war. you know, they they don't kill anything.
It's quite peaceful, right? I guess I'm going to put it in sports terms. Like Chris over there loves Boston sports. Yeah. I love New York sports.
Yeah. TJ in behind you, behind your right shoulder. Likes 15 different teams. You know what I mean? We, we, we, I like what I like.
We make fun of him all the time for that. Um, but you know, and Mike loves, he used to, he used to love the Yankees only, and then he gave them up for the Dodgers, which, you know, wow, that must have been a lot of fun. See, by the way, even if she gets it, right? I don't know much about sports, but I know that's a major shift. He's from Poland, he knows you're wrong, okay.
So, but you see what I'm saying? Like, but that lends to. a lot of great conversation for three hours every day, I'd like to think. Sure. And so, but what would it be if we're all like, oh, yeah, we love the 49ers.
Oh, yeah, we just love and peace all the time where there's no debate and like you know, or one of them feels hurt. And a billion people around the planet suddenly get depressed. You know what I mean? Like that. That's not and that's the argument, right?
So that's the conversation we would have. Like, yes, and the individuality gives you that, that you can have you can be surprised, like you never you would have never been surprised again. And being an individual, get to g be surprised and experienced and have these debates. Yes. It but is that worth giving up for the goodness that the others have to offer.
Obviously to you you would say yes. Right.
Right.
You know, and obviously I wouldn't have to. And there's some people that would say no with everything that's happening in the world, like, no, I would love the world to be the others. But they they wouldn't know what it would be like for two seconds to give up their individuality. That's no you know what I mean like because uh for for For a utopia. Like obviously we we we What would be the price?
What's the cost? The cost of there would be no war and people would live in peace and harmony and unconditional love for one another. Mm. I don't want to love everyone. See, again, you should have a lot of people.
What did you say you would love? I don't want to love everyone. Well, there you have it. There you have it.
So, you would be probably Carol fighting for the world. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's as close to the Carol character as anybody that's sitting here in this set right now. But it's fascinating.
But that's what I'm grateful for our show is that. It starts these conversations and people can have these conversations. You know, people can have these debates and I had people text me and say that they're having pleuris dinners to talk about it. Plurbis dinners. Yeah, pleuris dinners to ta to to talk about what it brought up for them and and what they thought about it and and dissect it and and just have these debates about What pleuribus means to them.
Well, but if they really want to take it the next level, then they all have to eat the same thing, right? They all have to drink the same thing.
Well their well let's tell what their diet is very specific which I'm not sure alert we need to really get into what what they're eating their diet is very particular it's very I should say so I should say so with fava beans and an iced Chianti see I didn't know until we this like I didn't know about the diet until we got to that episode and I remember when Vince revealed it to us we went oh oh he is the sweetest guy he is with the darkest side I love it he uh yeah honestly he's so it had to be this screw it I'll say it he had to be the sweetest Delivery of cannibalism of all time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, you know, I mean, yeah. He's the nicest guy in Hollywood.
Yeah, I so agree with you. He's such a wonderful human being and his sense of humor and it's so unexpected if you would meet him and be like, whoa, I can't believe that. Is there, but it's so beautiful and perfect. Yeah, he's created Walter White. Yes.
He's created all of these characters. Yes. You know? I'm so curious, like, how, like, where's this going?
Well, I did tell him if I was part of the hive mind, I would love to be in his brain. I would love to live in his brain. What do you say to that? He said, no, you wouldn't want that. Obviously.
See? Individuality. He's more Carol than Zosha. And he says that. I think he says that he's more.
There's a bit of Carol. I love it. And yeah.
Well, congratulations. There's a bit of him in Carol. I'd love for you to tell a story how you got the. The audition, if you don't mind. Oh, God, yeah, absolutely.
So. You know, it was during the pandemic, which was the lockdown happened in March, and in July, my husband and I we decided that it's time to make some children.
Okay. And I, um, I got pregnant and m I told my team, which was very important for me to be a stay at home mom for the first two years of my kids' life because you know, my parents used to travel all the time and so During that time, as I when I after I gave birth, my manager and my agent decided to part ways. which was really terrifying and I was already forty and And that was really painful. And then I, because that happened, I was like, I'm going to have a second child. I was very blessed to have my son right away, both of them.
And then when, you know, I've been working since I'm 16 years old.
So taking a break from me was also very hard because I've always been a either was modeling and then acting. And And then, when my second son was a year and a half, I was really craving to. I was like, okay, I think I'm starting to get ready to get back to work. I didn't know how and I was really terrified. I was forty one at the time and then out of nowhere, I got an email from our commercial agent or agency that I was not working with, but I still happened to be on their roster.
And this lady emailed me and she said, Hey, there's a request for a tape. for an audition. What would you like me to do with it? And I looked at it, and all I saw said Anna, and the description of the character. And I emailed her back and I said, Do you mind finding out what this is for?
Because you never know what it could be. And so she came back and she said, It's Vince Gilligan for Apple TV, and I just went, Are you kidding me? What is the what? And just to put it out there, it was my dream to work with Vince Gilligan, right? Since Breaking Bad, of course.
And I used to be with ICM, and he was with ICM. And I used to ask my team, please, I'll be a chair, I'll be background, whatever it is. I just would love to meet this man and be in his universe. And so that never happened until this audition. And so I put myself on tape and And then I got two days later, they emailed me back saying they want to see more material.
And it was Christmas time. And so I happened to email because Sharon Biali and Sherry Thomas and Russell Scott, who are the casting directors, I've auditioned for them many times years prior.
So I asked for their email and I decided that I'm going to talk to them personally and take it from there. They said to me that after Christmas they're going to decide if we're going to test or not, the next steps. But the interesting bid that I find during that time, like before I got that email Russell Scott told me that they had over 5,000 submissions for this role worldwide, and they couldn't find Zosha. And they went through their digital database. They couldn't find her.
And They have this cabinet in their office with handwritten notes of every actor they've ever seen from like years prior, and they had to go through that. And they started going through it and they saw a photo they saw my photo and their handwritten notes on me and Russell said, Whatever happened to her? And that's how I got the audition. That's how they searched me out, which is. You know, which I just I was still pinching myself.
I can't believe how I that I got this opportunity, that I got this role, and to be here. At being Emmy-nominated actress, I just get emotional. It's truly unbelievable. You know, taking. Making that choice to become a mom.
Having that experience, and then now this, I just feel incredibly, incredibly lucky. Wow. And to work with, I mean, to work with Vince, to work with Ray, who are the one, like, they're the most. Incredible human beings and incredibly talented. It's such a gift, as you know.
You've interviewed all of them.
So it's like they're magnificent. They are. They are. And you are too. Thank you.
Congratulations on this. And just like Pluribus, your story is like the world is so big, but it's also so small. What a beautiful way to put it. Yeah. Thanks for coming on here.
Congrats on everything going on. Let's stay in touch. Certainly, whenever this season two comes out, I mean, we don't want to talk anymore about it.
Soon enough, you guys, it will come out. It's going to be very exciting. Carolina Weedre, right here on The Rich Isen Show. Check out Pluribus right now on Apple TV. And of course.
We're rooting for you for the yummies. Thank you. Back on the show at Suze coming up next for Women's Sports Now. Thank you. The Rich Heisen Show, the podcast.
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How are you, Susie? Nice. Hey. Hey, thank you for that round of applause. That was only me, Susie.
No, I was clapped. Thanks, Mikey. I told him about what we did yesterday with Irv on his pod. That was so fun. It was so great.
We had the best time. Nice. What a great setup. And also over there? Yeah, the white.
But TJ, ask the question you were asking before. About invitations to our wedding. Oh, yeah. So we know that you famously invited Irv to the wedding. You asked Kobe, you almost had Kobe to come.
What are the notable names were almost at your wedding? Maybe they couldn't make it or that's like the worst name drop, right? Almost at the wedding. I mean, Kobe.
Well, I mean, this is how we started. Again, I wasn't there when you ran into Irv. I was there when we ran into Kobe together on Central Park South. Sweet. And he thought about it for me.
I literally thought, first of all, I'm like, wow, Suze is really, you know, inviting him. And then he paused for a second at the point where, is this going to happen? Did you think about moving the wedding back just to cost me? Just to make sure. No, anything you need.
No. Later, we're good. I know. I know. I think he really would have if he could have.
I mean, he literally was in leaf contour. I agree. But is there any? I'm curious. Was there anybody else?
I never asked you that. Shaq? You know, I asked him. You know, in retrospect, that was a big mistake. Not asking him?
Yeah, that was a big because he loves you. Phil, Pete? Did you ask him? No, Phil. No, no, no.
Did you ever give him a book? Yeah. You gave him a book, right? You know my full story with. You remember that?
I think I told you this. It's probably not the nicest story in the world, but he used to, he used to love to. How much time do we have? He used to look at the clock. He used to always.
famously give his players books. We all know that he would the um The Confederate in the Attic was a famous book that he gave to Jerry West, and he would really measure you out. And I remember being at A Lakers practice. He was a little standoff as to a lot of the women covering.
Okay. And as you know, in Los Angeles some of you know, we had all different shapes and sizes. Weren't allowed under the triangle. And yeah.
And I was sitting there reading an Eckhart Tolle book, and I am not a self-help book person. I think I read five pages. I was like, No, no, no, I I get how this ends. And so Phil stops and he says What are you reading? And he'd been a little dismissive.
of me when I started. And I sh showed him the book. He goes, Oh, Eckertole, what do you think? I said, I think it's garbage and I think I already know how this ends. And he looks at me and he said, Where'd you go to school like that?
You know, the raised eyebrow, the soul patch. And I said, Columbia, where did you go? Yeah. After knowing that He didn't go to Columbia. And after that.
Phil loved not only talents, but he loved people who were curious and wanted to learn, and he liked smart people. And I really think that. Look, I was coming up in a different time where, you know, obviously the standards were different for women and people judged and prejudged a lot. But he really liked the fact. Then he was curious, what did you study?
I said, okay, you know, I had a double major in history and art history. And he was like, what? You're covering the Lakers? You're covering the Lakers. But yeah, that's my Phil book story.
And so he started asking me, What are you reading? And so we would kind of every so often. And he wasn't invited to the wedding. You didn't get either. You didn't get the invite.
No. But Dan Patrick did. And we're going to his daughter's wedding. Saturday's getting married.
So I'm going to take over the bar. Yeah, see how that feels because that's what he did at ours. Yeah. And I'm her borrowed for her wedding. Yes.
Old, new borrowed love. Yeah, we're excited. Women's Sports Now, 6 Eastern. We're back to wrap it on Disney Plus, where you can catch this show, too. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show Podcast.
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