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I'm Bart Winkler. Welcome into the Winklerverse. Grant Bills and Paul Emmig join us for mm-hmm mm-mm. I am having I I stopped my show abruptly the other night 'cause I am having an issue. I can't.
Good morning, everybody, was so easy to say. And so the first couple of hours now, I'll go, good evening, everybody. But once it hits midnight on the East Coast, I don't think it's morning. I come home at 1.30. In the morning, But it's still nighttime.
Mm-hmm. But then people at like 1201 Central Hey Vark, good morning. No. If you haven't gone to sleep yet, it's still the nighttime. And I strongly.
Give in to the demands of uh the East Coast. Big time. Because, like, a lot of the shows are always like, oh, game starts tonight at 8, but I always make a point to say 8 Eastern. Mm-hmm. And sometimes I'll even slip in there a five Pacific.
This is a national show. Yep. Great, great. Six Mountain, seven Central. Oh, mountains.
Mountains elite.
Okay. Central's as close to good as it can get, but Mountain is Oh my god. What's so good about Mountain? Games are over before 10.30. Football starts at 11.
Oh, yeah, that's pretty cool. College starts at 10. But I would not want. Like Pacific time, I would not want NFL to start at 10 o'clock. I'm not ready yet.
But 11's good. 11's good. I do actually think I'd love noon though. But then the night ga Sunday night would start at six twenty. Love it.
And be done by 9.30. Fantastic. Oh. In mountain, yeah, yeah, mountain, yeah. But like 1700 people live in that time zone.
Yeah, it's so small. It's so small. I think central time is the, I think we have it. We got it good. Never going to be too early.
It's never going to be too late. We're always reasonable. We are a very reasonable time zone. You're never going to have a... Uh unless they stick the bucks at like nine PM, which can occasionally happen, but That's pretty rare.
Or, like when the Bucs played at 4:30 against the Pacers, Central Time and then Pacific, you'd be like, it's 2:30. Why is there a playoff game on television? I didn't mind that, actually. More daytime sports, I think, is good. No, but there's enough people working from home.
Give us something in the middle of the day. 4:30 was fine, but if it was at 2:30, I mean, I know you have. you guys have weird schedules, but for uh Most people, 2:30, like 2:30 Pacific, would be like, I work nine to six. Don't lump me in with middle of the night boy over here. I have I have a very reasonable, yeah, I guess, normal schedule.
Yeah, that's fair.
Sorry about that, Grant. No, it's fine. It's fine.
Well, what's up with my boys? What do you got today, Paul? Oh, sh wow. There's not like some 12 minute Four play?
Okay, all right. I could give you an update. What are you glad? No, I could give you an update. Update it.
So uh I did a Facebook post about Nomo May. I saw your insight. I loved it. Which I posted, I just was posted. I was mowing my lawn and I was like, I'm gonna do a Snapchat, whatever.
I never do those. And then, like, I was getting texts from people like, that's so funny. Eat shit bees, you said, when you're getting them a blunt. That's so funny. I was like I'm just mowing the lawn.
So then I put it on My Facebook page. I didn't see this. I just put eat shit bees. No, you said you said. No mo the hashtag was fuck the bees.
I remember that. The Instagram one was fuck the bees.
Okay. The Snapchat one was eat shit bees.
Okay, I'm way too, I don't have Snapchat.
So eat shit bees is funnier. They're both funnier. Eat bees is funnier. I agree. That's why that's the one I used on Facebook.
So then I got a bunch of messages from Alan on the north side. Um remember Hann? Yeah.
So he's all pumped that I'm mowing my lawn because he's never been happier for you to say or do anything. It's like Now that's become political. Like I'm a I'm a I'm on Alan's side when I mow the lawn, I guess.
Okay. No, he wrote a he did a video. Or mess. Yeah.
I just will say this. Second mowing in no more May. Am I proud of myself? I'm freaking ecstatic. That's it.
He did a 10-second video. He commented with a video. That's elite. That's really good. Why would Alan?
Does he know you have a national perspective now? Why have these. Why have more of the twelve fifty callers of your show not found their way to the national show yet. Oh, there was a good stretch. I was getting some J-Mo in there.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Um, I think 'cause it's on so fucking late, Paul. Maybe. What time is it? 10 Eastern, 7 Pacific?
Yeah, 8 Mountain, 9 Central. Cover all four. Which would be what, uh, five Hawaiian? I don't know that one. Yeah, what time would football games start?
What time do noon games start in Hawaii? Like 9 a.m. Uh yeah, like four. What time is Alaskan? I think they're one hour ahead.
Um pus of what?
So we're recording at 2.30. It's 11.30 in Alaska right now.
Okay, so one hour So football starts at nine. Too early. And in Hawaii, it's 9:27, 9:30. Five hours.
So football starts at 7 a.m. Yeah.
No pass.
So Terry, Howie, Michael, and Jimmy are on at six. How do they do? Here's a question: how do they do it? How do they do Thanksgiving in Hawaii? You're supposed to watch the Fox NFL pregame show while family is arriving.
That's why they added a night game, solely so that Hawaii. could have a lunch feel. Yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly why. I actually like that a lot. That's a good take part.
I'm glad that I now know Al on the North Side's Facebook, because I'm gonna Do a lot of reading of that later tonight. I'm going to do a deep dive. Oh, boy. I used to work in a very woke environment. I loved for these types of things.
Or the rainbow room? Yeah, it exists. Great exchange with a Wolkster. We are all getting vaccinated. You are vaccinated, aren't you?
I'll take a rain check. Or, you know, this is a casual environment. I am casual in your polo pink shirts. This is casual. I'll do full business from now on.
Best is, are you married? Yep. We've never met your wife. Let me show you pic mic drop. Two.
These are texts going back with Alan, or what? No, is that a comment? That's one full comment from him. Responding to no one. Yeah.
He's not responding to anyone. He just. Commented. Oh, that's great. Also, there is one person that sent me a message.
That it's actually should not be no mo may But it should be it should be slow-mo summer.
Okay. Because what happens is we give these hibernation areas or whatever. for the bees in May, and then we fucking destroy it. He says, if you let your lawn grow a little bit more. There's more.
I just don't like this whole thing. I read this thing on there's this Facebook group for Shood. And one of the posts was. Saw some kids walking around, they were about thirteen. And they were going up and down the street chanting, No Mo, May, save the bees.
I thought that's some good parenting right there. Yeah.
It took everything in me not to reply first. Nerds Ha ha ha. And then second. The way I parent is Me and I drive my son around town looking for unmowed lawns, and we mow them out of the goodness of our heart. Because this Facebook group, I follow it to know what's going on in my village.
Got a new library, a head librarian. That's a big deal. That's big. But there's like Seven or eight people. Who's made it their life?
to run this Facebook group. And they're very... controlling and very much uh You know, in in they they this is it for them. And I've I've gotten a lot of Internet exchanges, and I just feel like I don't I don't think this is where I should Plant my seeds. Yeah.
Jeez. My internet trolling seeds. I just don't think I I ju I just think and it'll never happen. We don't need lawns. We don't need them.
There's so much money and water and work and equipment. And then, oh, I got to fix the lawnmower. I got to buy gas for the lawnmower. And for what? To cultivate.
The grass isn't natural. There would be much better options, long native prairie grasses and such. Yeah, you kids can't plant it. Go to the bottom. Let's go to the long prairie prairie grasses.
Mm-hmm. What? You're telling me you're the biggest. You're the lawn guy in this chat, Paul. It's you?
I mean, I value it. I mean, I think it's an important. Yeah, you got to have, you got to have, you got to have your lawn. As a fellow homeowner, I'd be with Paul here because. Tending to a lawn.
Gives you some sort of purpose, and almost, if not, What's the word I'm looking for? Like some sort of perceived control. You have some sort of perceived control over.
Something you have no control of. I always I always think of this uh old proverb. Where you always think of this old proverb.
Well, yeah, like the fact that we have decided you can own land. Is as a foreign concept to some cultures as owning sky. You can't own Sky. This is land, it belongs to the earth, and we have decided that we own it, but we do that. because we need some sort of semblance of control.
In this otherwise chaotic world. World. A man needs land. This is an old proverb. I just, I don't know why you need to mow it.
I just think it's, you need a hobby. I think. I mean, the grass should be short so your kids can play in it.
Okay, well, that's another. I'm a homeowner. I'm a parent.
Okay, these are choices. My front lawn doesn't need. To be anything. That's all for aesthetics. Yeah, front lawn's exact.
Yeah, but the backyard should be mowed. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Also, no moment, it's like If I don't Mow my little tiny piece of grass. What am I really killing? Exactly.
Like, Oh, I throw one water bottle into the ocean one time. I'm not the reason fish are going extinct. You know what I mean? If I throw one car battery in the Milwaukee River, it's fine. Yeah.
Those quarter acre plots, Sparta, they add up. That's true. That's true. All right. All right, is that satisfying enough?
Well, I was like, grand, it's a good thing we took this detour. Mm-hmm. Or, mm-mm. I think that was time warm. Yeah, no mo may play.
No more may plays. And I think for some reason, a lot of people assume. things about me and they assume that I would not only like Lay on the sword for Nomo May, but I would want it to be extended into June and July. Mm-hmm. Because I come off as someone who cares so much about Fucking bees, my least favorite animal or insect.
Terrible. No prune June. No, I no prune June. This came out of the top of my head. That's pretty good.
That is pretty good. All right. That was good. All right, good. That was a good detour.
Good detour. And by the way, your Nomo May tweet, which while you found to be nothing and not particularly. noteworthy or funny. Uh crossed over into Like something that I said to uh Mrs. Paul.
And she said, I saw that too and liked that. That was fun.
So you thought it was nothing, but I thought enough of it to say, hey, look at this. And she's like, I already saw it. Because it's so funny. It's just the Let me I listen. It just am I the only one providing anti-nomo may content?
Uh A parent. I've not seen other. Nobody. I'll be happy to thrive in that space. And also, I just don't know how many.
like normal people in the population have ever said hashtag fuck the bees. Like in like in your world, maybe that's not that particularly noteworthy, but amongst like normal society. A friend. I do too. I do too.
But it just done to you. Don't say sting me. Grow up, if that's your response. They stung a bunch of three-year-olds at my kids' party last summer that we were bees or wasps. It might have been Wasp.
Well, there you go. You want some sort of perceived control over your property? Get a can of bee spray and go take care of those things next time. Don't put that on the honeybee. Very docile creature.
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First topic for you guys. In the context of NBA superstars. Um Take that as a very important initial premise. Yannis. is a tough superstar to build around.
The trait that Giannis has among superstars is unique. Right. And so, if you were to get one of the 10 best players in the league. to build around. Yannis's skill set.
Position he plays, the his pros, his cons. Makes him one of the most, and I'll just call it it this: Giannis is a tough superstar to build around. roster construction wise. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm.
I would say mm-mm. Really? I think the Bucks have been trying to build around him. They just keep doing it with. Players that suck.
So build uh you don't need to talk about players then, but Build me the like a type of players you would Put around Giannis. And if you have exact players, great. But realistically, like. Legitimately, the guys they've been trying to only like good, like.
Okay, Giannis, he runs, run and jump man into the wall. Then what do you do? You kick it out to guys that can hit threes. Nicola Miritich should have been the perfect guy in that system. He should have been.
Sucks. Can't have Miritich and Bobby on the same team though. No. And then, like with Dame, like the pick and roll stuff and everything that you want. That will work.
Mm-hmm. That'll work. They're great compliments to each other. They I I think it was A little too much of all right, Dame's doing his stuff. They just didn't blend it enough.
And they need more reps for that, which is the only reason the regular season matters. Is reps? I think the thing that you gotta like cut through is But Yana seems to be okay with He doesn't need to be taking the last shot. Mm-hmm. He's alright with giving.
It to others. He's alright with others having success. It's just sometimes. Yeah.
Team doesn't do that, so he has to take over. Sure. Because, but, but, because a superstar is often expected to. It's part of the job description of. Top 10 player in the league, top five player in the league, in the world.
So that's, I mean, it that would make him in that sense, at the very least, a unique superstar. You must think he is hard? I definitely do. I can tell, I mean, but before I go too much, I'm curious what Grant's going to say. He didn't give me any facial expressions that would indicate one way or the other.
Giannis is a tough one. Among superstars, he's great. You'd love to have him. Duh. But among superstars, he's a tough one to build around.
Mm-hmm or I mean You need more shooting around Giannis than you might need around Other players, right? Because when Giannis is on the floor, You have one guy who's not necessarily a threat to shoot from outside.
So, once you start having a second or a third guy like that out there, that mucks things up really quickly.
So, I guess in that sense, yeah, he's. A little difficult to build around, but I don't think. Like Find me the superstar where it's like, oh, you don't need shooters around him. Like, no, you want shooters around everybody, and you want defenders around everybody.
So. Uh yeah, maybe the Maybe lack of shooting hurts. Uh, Giannis and the team a little bit more, but I don't think it's drastically much more than other superstars. I still think the players you want around Giannis are the players you'd want around just about anybody else. Maybe you need a little more shooting than you'd need around.
I don't know, Steph Curry. Or someone who's a really excellent outside shooter, but then you need good defenders around Steph.
So there's a give and a take. Like, I don't think he's more difficult than most, at least by a lot, to build around.
So here's my counter to that. And again, this is this. Should not sound like Giannis Slander. It is not Giannis Slander. But I think as you start to think of.
If you want to tinker with the roster, which I think the three of us agree by and large, you don't need to because you have not seen. This team As intended, healthy in the playoffs team.
Well, tinker. I'd tinker with it. Sure. I wouldn't do anything drastic.
So what we're going to go through in a little bit is we're going to I have three brooke lopez trade Mm-hmm. But I would just say that with With Yannis, who's of But He's a five, right? Like, of course, he can do all the positions, but. In the sense of, like, if you most fives in the league, most centers, most true centers. Don't They're not great outside shooters.
They don't give the work, and Grant, here's where we taught Bart last year. They don't provide the gravity. That you need when you have Giannis. I thought you were going to say malleability. That's also a big one, but gravity is important too.
Gravity is a good one. I just remember that moment. But there's also like.
Something to consider is Giannis might, with his skill set, be a five. But you don't want him to play the five for 82 games. Which is part of why I would say it's a tough superstar to build around. Because Brooke Lopez is a Great. Fit.
with Giannis. Like the skill set that Brooke has is a great complement for the skill set that Jonas has because you need a five Brooke. Who can stretch the floor? Right. Like in theory, it all works.
Like Miles Turner would be a great. Complement to because Brooke Lopez and Miles Turner are very similar players. I mean, Brooke can play defense, but other than that, yeah, they're similar enough. I'm saying offensively, though. The gravity of the floor, and yes, yes, in that sense, they are similar.
In fact, Miles Turner, in that sense, I might even trust him a little bit more as a consistent three-point shooter, but he's an absolute slap on defense relative to Prutt. Eight years younger, so that you know that helps too for whatever. But so as I Think about these Brook Lopez trades, and I'll tell you guys in a little bit about.
Some feedback, not so kind feedback, I got about our Chris Middleton trade scenarios from last week's discussion. Wow. That I got non-feedback. I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that the Bucs weren't eliminated yet. That probably.
Uh Oh, the conversation, especially, I'll tell you about it a little bit, was after they got eliminated. It was still like, what were you guys doing? When you're done with this question, I have a tangent for you. Yeah, first, for sure.
So. As you as you look through like okay. Giannis and Dame are coming back. we can talk about and have talked about. Chris, and you know, what do you get?
And would you do it, or should you bring it back? We can talk about Brooke, which we will. There's only certain players that you could move Chris or Brooke for, because to your points earlier, these are actually the players that should go with Aganis. Like if you just looked at Forget the names on the back of the jerseys. The skill sets of Middleton and the skill sets of Brook Lopez, that is what you would need.
With now, you might want a 10-year, a 10-year, eight-year younger version of both guys, right? Just to be a little bit more athletic and all the things that go with that. But, and it's, you know, I don't like who's the most. The NBA superstar that's the easiest to build around. Like, what would be the skill set?
Like, is it Anthony Edwards? Is it NBA superstar that's the easiest to build around? Is it like I would argue it's Jason Tatum, like a wing? I'm not saying the talent level of Jason Tatum.
So, what are you looking for? Are you looking for a guy that is pigeonholed into a couple of things, or are you looking for a guy that can play the most malleable with everybody else? Good way to squeeze that in there.
Well, I don't know. And I think that that's, I think that you'd have 30 NBA GMs who could answer that differently.
So, it's not even like there's a right and a wrong answer. Right. I mean, you would take the best player, probably, regardless. But if you could pick and choose like skill sets, if you were doing a build, a custom build a player, is Jokic that easy to build around, or did they just build around him? I think I would say Jokic is the because I.
He's going to highlight the best skill set of every player around him. Yeah.
Right. Dude, he was a civ on defense. That's a problem. There's your MVP. I don't I don't mean to derail the show at all, but like.
It's been all glazing of Jokic and the Nuggets for the last six or seven months. If they go down in four or five games, we need to have some conversations. Like we have some three or four years, this man's winning MVP.
Some backpedaling to do. That's all I'm saying. I think it's Jokic, though, because he. He's gonna take the thing that every player around him does best. And bring the best version of that out.
Like, Aaron Gordon is a cutter and a rebounder. Like, Jokic is gonna break.
So, I think. Because Jokic. uplifts everyone like that i i'd say he's the easiest to build around i think yeah Okay. Good conversation. Bart, you had a tangent.
Yeah.
little dad talk here if you can.
So Grant, this is you guys? Because I was going to say because I said something about So is there anything that your kids have said? That's wrong. in terms of grammatically But then you and your wife have Now say The my examples would be instead of no. He'll say I have none candies.
No, he'll say none. And then the big one that I catch myself saying a lot, and it's even slipped up on the radio. Is uh He doesn't say by myself, he says, by my loan. Like, I don't want to be upstairs by my loan.
So that one's a big one.
So, I don't think there is grammatically. Or are you like. Teaching them proper English at nine months. Oh, of course I was. Of course.
No, but there would be things like. A little bit of what, like when they were younger, they would call them straw babies. And so then I just adapted like I there they are now straw babies. The strawberries.
So there'll be things like less grammatical and more like, damn, that's cute. I'm going to also say beanie babies. Yeah, like a straw. Like, there's, you know, strawberry, no, straw baby. Oh, the fruit.
Okay. Okay. Sorry. Yes. Sure.
Like my kid messes up his pronouns. I mean, like, he'll say. Yeah, I know what you mean, because it happens here too. I know exactly what you mean. What is her doing?
I think that's actually really hard. I'm I'm finding that to be that that's a What is she doing? What is her doing? Yeah.
That is her cup. She has a cup. Mm-hmm. It is what is her doing? I didn't think of it previously as like Well, that's a tough thing to grasp, but as you raise young'ins, it's like, oh, I can totally see how that's confusing.
Like, there's like it's still like they're cute, but he's gonna be going to kindergarten soon, and I don't wanna, like, have him get beat up. In fall, is kindergarten for him? Oh, yeah. We're in the same they're in the same grade? Uh, yeah, because I'm at the way back end.
Oh. That was a big it's a big decision, big decision, but We're doing it.
So he's gonna be the youngest then?
So he'll graduate high school at like 17 and a half. Younger than even I just got 18 before I graduated. And that was I mean, I remember the year the year that I'm really worried about is like his 21st birthday when The whole year of college, all of his buddies are going to be going out to the bars.
So you sit back at your house, get drunk by yourself. They all come home at 2:30, and then you're like, who's Podi? Yeah.
What did you do tonight, Bart?
Well, just don't park. Is that what you did? Oh, yeah. I. I didn't do a fake ID.
I was petrified of the idea of a fake ID. I was the same. I never had a fake ID. I genuinely never went downtown lacrosse till I was 21. Yeah, I was Mortified.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The only bar I went into uh was there was a bar in Fond du Lac that Got it. As long as you look sixteen, you're in. Yeah.
They don't care. If they don't let you inside, they'll somehow get a six-pack to you and you can sit outside on the Patio. It's good business. I paid I tipped very well as a kid. I was drinking in a bar.
So Park, what's the countdown clock at? for your thirties. Um Mm two week a week and a half. Yeah.
You cherishing it? I'm already 40. You've been saying that, but yeah, you're not. But I you actually will be. I'm forty though.
Yeah.
But it will hit hard. Yeah, this is. think there'll be an emotional component to the business you're 40 years old yeah That's it. That's like yeah, it's it's it's weird. I genuinely Sorry, Grand.
For the parent corner and then the old guy corner. It is weird. No part of me thinks of myself as the age that I am. I don't feel like it's realized that nobody does. Isn't that weird though?
Like everyone, everyone that's running around being 55 and 60, like in their head. They're not. That's great, though. I mean, it's so cliche, like, age is just a number, but like, it's a mentality. Like, it just doesn't, it shouldn't matter.
I mean, there's certain things it matters for and yeah, it doesn't shouldn't, but All right, Grant, let's let you chime in on something. Bart was very pro. Like, wow, like aggressively anti-Brooke Lopez a week ago. Two weeks ago, Grant, you were. Very full of praise.
for our Disney World Center. I'm going to give you three bucks trades, Brooke Lopez trades.
Okay, this is where we're like, we're just finding out. You're just finding out. You ready? Yeah.
And these all work. These are all, these are all. Correct, like they work. The math is correct. Guys, of course, you can watch the initial reactions on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream.
Do you guys see this? Big bucks trade that. Brand's looking at the camera for the first time in eight months. Yeah.
Brooke Lopez trade. Hang on. It's kinda weird. I don't like it. Can you not?
I can't finish my talk. I don't like it. Yeah, I like Graham better where he's like Oh, I'm not even sure there's a camera here.
Okay, yeah. Bucks just traded Brooke Lopez. Oh, no, do it. Do it like we're having a conversation, and you cut us on.
So then, so then, Grant, I've specifically been looking for bees to murder. What? No. Dude. Bucks just made a huge trade.
Check this out. You ready? Okay. Brooke Lopez has been traded. Oh, thank God.
To the Orlando Magic for Wendell Carter Jr. and Cole Anthony. Um Sure. It's a good deal for the box. All right.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, Wendell Carter plays good ev once every five games. Mm-hmm. Co Anthony fits into a jersey. Sure.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm, true. I think it's a good package. I wouldn't be upset about that. I want the. Most reverent send-off to Brooke Lopez, any franchise has ever done for a player.
Like, I'm sad that he's leaving. Very sad. I love him, but I think that's a deal that makes sense, don't you? See, and that's what so one of the things I was thinking about. In Brooke Lopez trade scenarios, is you do need at the very like Wendell Carter Jr., he.
Gravity, you have to defend him from deep. He creates floor spacing, and he's one of really like only. A handful or so of true NBA centers, Brook Lopez being one of them, that kinda I think needs to be the center for a team that has Giannis. It's a very select group, I think, that works. All right, I'm for it.
I'm for it.
Okay, okay. By the way, you have one now. I mean, Wendell Carter Jr. is good. They're both obviously young.
And now you added one, you have two players who can competently play in a playoff series instead of one.
So you can. You know, sometimes you do these fantasy trades, you give up two, and then you get five, but then you have to cut three, and you're like, well, what am I? But I'm fine getting more and I'm like two for one. I'm fine with Doing that. Maybe the, maybe the, you know, you know what I'm saying.
I do know what you're saying. All right, I'll have another fake conversation with Grant. Let me start. Can I start this fake one?
Okay, because then I got one. No, no, no, no, okay, you do this one, then I'll get the last one. No, you can have this one.
Okay, so anyways, I we were walking out of downtown and I was taking a fat piss on the side of HR Block. We just left the helm. The swamp waters worked unbelievably good. And that's when the police officer came up and I saw great. Hold that thought.
The Bucks have just made a big trade. Fuck what? Who? Where why? Brooke Lopez has been traded.
Uh S I suppose. What happened with the cop? Let's get back to that. I was never, I had never had an issue with the law. That's not something that happened.
Although I did love peeing on the side of the HR block building. It was well later. We waited until we got a few blocks downtown. And there was this dumpster. But the dumpster was right by our house.
But we made it a point to pee at the dumpster.
So you had a pee dumpster? Piss dumpster. We have Yeah, we just pissed on the HR block or the postal office, depending on where. There's that nice little alcove, you know, the one I'm talking about with the brick wall. Oh yeah.
You know, you do you actually or you just yeah. Speaking of kid things though, I do now exclusively, unintentionally, call it potty. Because yeah, I have d daddy has to go potty, yep.
So and so now I don't even like I'm like oh that's I forgot people used these other terms. Yeah, Jason Lane just sending guys into a fucking buzzsaw. I am so. I'm going to turn the game away. Continue, Paul.
Sorry. This box trade. I want you guys to be ready for this. Putting aside What you might have heard on this pod five minutes ago about a different trade. That was just pretend.
This is a real one. It's a straight-up one-for-one Brooke Lopez trade. Are you ready?
Okay. Brooke Lopez to the Cleveland Cavaliers. For Jarrett Allen. This is a good trade for the Bucks. Or mm-mm.
Um Yeah. I don't like that one as much. Hmm. Because Jared Allen, you talk about fitting players, Xianis. Jared Allen can't shoot.
Yeah, see, this is, I mean, he's a better player than Brooke. At this stage, did you also make some shit trades just to see if we would? Like, is this a trade that you don't even like? Um I'm intrigued enough by it. That uh I do think I would.
I'd be well, he's also like 10 years younger. That's what I'm saying. I think at a certain point, it could be one of those. Maybe, like, by the way, like the Tracy. Was there a stretch where Jared Allen was like.
Oh shit, this guy's really. He's an all-star. Yes. Yeah.
No, but again, he does not stretch the floor.
So you are gravity-wise. You're going to struggle a little bit with Doesn't everyone else stretch the floor?
So And that's, I mean. Yeah, I like the first PN all-star. Like twenty-two. There's this constant battle. Between protecting the rim.
Stretching the floor. Protect the rim. Stretch the floor, protect the face. It's the balance you need to strike. Jared Allen also gets hurt a lot.
So, like, Brooke Lopez might be older, and we might be inclined to get younger. I get that. But Brooke Lopez hasn't, other than the one year he had a hurt back, which really didn't even end up mattering. Yeah.
Because he was available in the playoffs. Like Brooke Lopez has been nothing but available. Jared Allen's actually. Missed a good amount of time with injury, it's fluky, but. Like, you're not really fixing a huge need.
Like, the injury risks on this team are players other than Brooke Lopez. Yeah.
So we're less excited. I I like the Wendell Carter Jr. Cole Anthony one more. I do as well.
Okay, but I it wasn't like thrown out there just I almost specifically like it better because it's a two for one. But I do. I think Wendell Carter is a better fit than Alan. I do too. Not as good of a player.
They're close, but I mean, Jared Allen's a superior overall player, but. Not by so much that you don't, yeah.
Okay, I'm with you.
So. If given the choice between the two, I'd take the Wendell Carter one pretty up pretty clearly. Uh Conversation, just feel free to. Do you think when people Like if I die and go to heaven. Do you think?
God'll be upset when I'm like... Play St. Noah Lacrosse. What the fuck is this? I think so.
Yeah.
Like people ended up going to hell. I'm so sorry to interrupt. That was captivating. The Bucs have just made a major trade. No kidding.
Who? Oof.
So The draft is tonight. The NBA draft is tonight. Yeah, of course. That's why we're doing this. And they own the number 23 and number 33 are overall picks.
So. By NBA bylaw, they're going to make those picks and those guys are going to put on Bucks hats. But both guys have already been traded. Along with Brooke Lopez. Oh.
To the Clippers. For Zubatz and Terence Mann. No, God no. Um Good deal for the bucks. Mm-hmm.
Or mm-mm. I think it's fine. All of these are fine. I think the first one was best. What would you take away?
If it was just a 33, or actually, you don't even want the two players for Brooke. I initially didn't have the pics as part of it, and then I just kind of wanted to see if that did anything for you. Terrence Mann, Terrence Mann, I don't get Terrence Mann. Everyone's like, oh, Clippers got to play Terrence Mann. Got to keep Terrence Mann.
Can't trade away Terrence Mann and James Harden trade. I thought you were talking to the president of the fan club over here to see.
Well, then explain it to me because I don't get it. I've never got it. Perfect role player, Bruce Brown type of guy. Like the perfect type of just fit piece that works when you have a really good team. A la Bruce Brown with Denver.
Okay, I'll go there with you. What is Zubots providing that the Bucks have lacked? In these years, they've come up short. And I I'm less about and I mean this not as like to sell you on it, but That doesn't mean as much to me as saying, okay, so. We've never seen a playoff game with Giannis and Dame together.
Mm-hmm. Just like the Clippers can say this with like Kawhi Leonard, man. Jeez, every year. But like, we also should acknowledge as much as we. Mock Kawhi's health in the playoffs.
Giannis has not been a beacon of health these recent playoffs. These playoff years. Zubots is a very good center. But he is. He's a very good center.
Um He uh I look, if they were the same age and they had the same salary, I like the skill set of Brooke Lopez more. But Zubats is very good. Like he's a really good player. It's fine.
Sure. All right, fine. I mean, as like as like as like true traditional starting centers go, he's Good.
Now, I wouldn't trade Zubotz for Lopez straight up, but you add in Terrence Mann. Again, the two-for-one thing that Bart was intrigued by with the Orlando idea.
Okay. I like the multiple players. I I think it's got to be multiple players. Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you understand? Costa wide net. I talked about this last night. Oh, yeah, it was those three.
So now, any conversation you have, I'm not going to interject in. The Thunder still have, and this isn't even including the pick swap potential. They still have three first-round picks yet to go from the Paul George trade. Yeah.
In which they got SGA and then drafted Jalen Williams. And they're about to lose Paul George to someone. They still have three. First round picks coming out of that. It's crazy.
Who do you like? In this Kawaii PG era too? Oh, I don't know. I'd have to look. How many playoff games have Kawhi and Paul George played together?
Not many. Not many. Then again, Chris and Giannis have played like no playoff games together the last time I'm saying, like, that's why it's tough to almost. Do like the Kawhi hurt and playoffs thing because Giannis is the hurt and playoffs guy, too, right now. Bart was about to ask who's coming out of what.
I'll just jump out in front of whatever this question was and say, I don't know why people are so high on the mavs, they're fun. But I I don't know. It's everyone's assuming the Mavs are going to be in the conference finals. I don't get it. I don't know.
Now people are saying that series is over. At one zero. I mean, it's the Timberwolves. I don't care. Like they Jokic can't defend them.
It's over. Would you pick the Wolves in a series against Boston? All right, this is my I already did. I bet on them to win the title. Yeah, but you did it because it was 10 to 1.
And I also thought they were going to beat Denver, so that was the time to get the odds.
So I think we would all agree, I think. Like the goal here, Austin's. Play by Play Guy? I've heard this, yes. They are They are Oh, another night.
We win by 20. Bring on the Knicks. He's like, oh, see you later. He's like cocking off to the heat. Would you guys or the radio guys?
The radio guys. The radio guys. Would you if that was happening on the Bucks radio network, like would you want that? Like, if you're a Bucks fan, are you like, ha ha ha, like, would you resonate with it if it wasn't, you know, a rivalry? Yeah, if, if.
Is it worth the standard? Is it worth it? He hasn't won since 2008. And before that? Eighty-six?
The way that Boston, I'm telling you, the Boston Niners connection, which everyone's now making because I'm brilliant, they're the same. They have, they can't win shit, but they get treated as if they're perennial winners. Mm-hmm. But they're not. The Bucks and now the Nuggets are getting more shit.
For winning a title, but then it's like.
Well, what kind of title was that really? Simmons did that on his podcast today. Yeah.
Boston's not winning anything. The last title we had where you really thought the right team won was Kevin Durant's last one that he won in Golden State. And I'm like, up your ass with that take. That's no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We cannot play.
I'm sorry, guys get hurt, but that's you play two months of. Vigorous, intense basketball. It's the least wonderful season we have. For sure. For sure.
Who's getting out of that healthy? Yeah.
If anything, injuries are as much bad luck as they are bad planning. Sure. The Western Conference team, so I would preface by saying, I just, I do not want. Shocker. I do not want Boston to win the NBA Finals.
Bart definitely, I know that thing. I'm guessing Grant is similar. The Western Conference, so and they're in the finals. I mean, sorry, I guess I'm agreeing with the radio. Who would you root for Boston Pacers?
I was going to bring this up today. Don't make me. But then again, it's going to be Boston, New York in both hockey and basketball. You know what? The answer is I would root for Boston.
Well, no, no, it's not true. I want them out because Indiana would lose to whoever comes out in the West. Whereas I'm very, very, very worried that Boston is going to win the because last year I ended up rooting for the Heat over Boston. Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
I was thinking about this earlier today. It's like if the Pacers and the Celtics met in the conference finals. It'd be pretty funny if the Pacers won. Be hilarious if the Pacers won. They they would lose in four or five in the NBA Finals.
The pacers would. The Celtics might too. I don't think that. I wish I believed that. I don't.
So the Western Conference team who is most likely To stop the Celtics from winning the title. The team that presents the most matchup challenges, the team that we'd be most confident would beat Boston. Is the Denver Nuggets? I don't know, it might be the Thunder. No.
I wish. I'm very pro thunder. That'd be great. Grant, you said to me saying the nuggets. The nuggets, I know this is insane.
They are cooked. It's over. Sure. They have been exposed. The only media guy in media who refuses to proclaim series as over until they're over.
Is And I get why. They lost both games at home and it wasn't particularly close. And they handled it poorly. They lost with the greatest home field advantage ever, altitude. Yep.
And Rudy Gobert missed the second game. And it would be something else if after. After the game. You know, not Tatum, but Jokic and Murray sat down at the table and they did the Drew and Chris thing where they very much looked like things were going to be okay. Right, like the eye test and the vibe check, these things matter in games like this, and they were throwing temper tantrums, they were throwing things literally onto the floor, which was losing his shit.
So how did he not get suspended? I'm kind of glad. I don't think he should have. Really? You can't suspend him for that.
Hmm. Wh if Draymond did it, is he suspended? Probably. Yes. Draymond would get suspended if he got, you know I'm not saying I disagree with that.
Like, because Jamal is usually a model citizen, like, he gets a little bit of extra pass on that.
Well, Draymond is in a class of his own.
Okay. Let's Draymond get suspended for everything now.
Okay. Are you surprised he didn't get that? You did not think he would. You did not think he would. I was surprised a lot of people thought he should be.
Because I didn't see the heat pack thing. Until the next morning. Oh, okay. And people are like, Is Murray gonna be suspended? Like what the fuck are people talking about?
And then I saw the heat pack, and I thought, there's some fan throw a heat pack. And then they're like, oh, it was Murray. I'm like, So guys Whatever. What did it hit anybody? I just feel like near the ref, right?
And Draymond Green is a big part of this, so it'll be interesting once Draymond has. Moved along whenever he's done in the NBA or done as like a productive playoff player, which I guess maybe he might be in this current state of the Golden State Warriors. But it seems like for the last, let's say, 10 years. I'm surprised looking back, it seems like a lot of series were marked by some sort of possible suspension where a game is played and then we're left to debate for a day. Should they, shouldn't he, will he, won't he?
Like, I just feel like. That happens way more often than it should. And maybe it's because of Draymond. Maybe Draymond is a big part of that. But I would like to get out of that mindset of.
Like every other game. And the refing thing is the same. Like the Pacers Knicks, everything was about the refs the next day, which is dumb. It was the same as UConn and. Um, Iowa, which part you said on your show?
I thought that was a very good point. Like, I don't know. I hate falling into the same topics and the same complaints and the same thing. The day after a game, it's like, all right, pick a card. It's one of these three that we're going to do.
And I don't like that. I hate that. And the suspension thing is one of those cards. Yeah.
Agree. What is happening? That's the piss dumpster. It's 716 Vine. Wait a minute.
Yeah.
Spin me. Spin me around. Uh Right round, baby, right? I lived right here. See?
I do see. Oh, yeah. I live right there, but we always peed right here. Spin, spin, spin the other way. Oh, okay, yeah.
Oh, that's new. It's a beautiful stretch of street. Oh yeah. Yeah, Western r Western's really built up since I was there. It's beautiful.
Yeah.
You start macking on the groceries. Like, I go to the tech, you're like. Even I got standards. No. This isn't something we're going to talk about with the fellas the next day, or we're going to leave that part of the story out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
whole Western tech part of it. Mm-hmm. She she gets out the house and starts walking towards the river. You're like. Oh fuck, what have I done?
Uh All right. Anything else?
Well, we got. I'll tell you just real quick, yeah. The The Chris Random impromptu Bart looking at just awful train ideas from Middleton last week. Got some negative feedback. Uh Just about what were you what the hell was that?
Why are you so Chris had an unbelievable series and uh Didn't he prove that he's exactly what the Bucks need to be surrounded? No one's defended Chris more than me. I know, that's why it was so surprising. We were just looking at because I think Giannis is 100%. Dame is 99, 999.
I think there is a chance that they could move Chris. I do too. But or at least that's going to be something that they go in and say. All right. What are we going to do here?
Mm-hmm. And they'll get to Giannis and say no. They'll get to Dame and say no. And then they'll get to Chris and say, well, what are our options? Yeah.
I think I was looking through the options. Yeah, I'm with you. And I would absolutely, if I would be bummed if they traded Chris. I know you. From a basketball standpoint, I don't think they should trade Chris.
I think it was the value that you were. Getting in return, that was more of like the what do you how, like, how little do you think? Chris is more valuable to us than he is to anyone else. It's it's an it's an entropy idea. It's that that's that's what we're dealing with here: is every time you trade away one of these pieces, as you lose out on assets and as you have fewer draft picks, you have less money to spend, every trade chip that you have becomes more valuable.
And a lot of these transactions, you are getting back. 80, 90 cents on the dollar, which every once in a while is fine. But if you keep doing it, right, you're losing value hand over fist and you're getting farther, slowly but surely, you're getting farther away from a championship. That makes sense to me. It's getting less disorganized.
The return for these trades is getting worse and worse because you're getting 80, you know, 70 cents on the dollar.
So I should come back next week with Three Chris Middleton trade ideas to interrupt you guys in the midst of conversation.
So I don't think there's one that exists.
So let me just be clear. Bart says there's not ones that exist, Grant says I should come back with Giannis trade ideas. You know what? here's what we need to do we just need to have more we just need to have more improv bits Forget the trade ideas. Let's just have more fake conversations.
I think that's what this needs. I'll just have something prepped to interrupt with so that when the time comes, I'm going to. That's what we'll do. I want to talk more about the piss dumpster. Do you want to pass it?
Do you want a packer a Packers one or do you want to be done? We can do a Packers one. We can do a Packer one. I got five minutes. All right.
Um So let me like clear my carefully last year. We're going into the 2023 season. What were your expectations like record-wise or post-season-wise for the Packers? Let me just ask that generally first. Eight and nine.
Yep, eight, nine, nine, and eight. Yep. And if they snuck in at eight, nine, great, if they didn't, that wasn't what we expected. And of course, obviously, they far exceeded. that because i'm always running around there with you um Your Packers' expectations this year.
Like, again, if they doesn't mean they couldn't exceed it, but your expectations are. They need to make the playoffs. Anything beyond that is Cherry on top. Or that's a good representation of your middle of May expectations of the upcoming Packers season. Mm-hmm.
or that they make the playoffs. Got to make the playoff to meet my expectations. But I'm not expecting anything beyond that. It would all be a bonus after that. Or mm-mm.
Oh no. Uh mm mm, I'm right back in the Super Bowl. Wow. Super Bowl or bust. But then you're telling me that you're not going to have fun this year because you are the I will have less fun.
I'm not bummer. I'm already bummed about it. And we're going to lose to the Bears at least once. That's going to suck. But you shouldn't care about that in the same way that Bears fans shouldn't celebrate it as if it's a Super Bowl.
Well, it's not the losing to the Bears. I mean, that's one game out of 17. It's the, we got the North bullshit that you got to hear because no, no city in this country, sports-wise, is obsessed with the little brother as much as Illinois is obsessed and Chicago is obsessed with us. Could it be because? The state of Wisconsin, at least the territory, used to cover Illinois.
It used to go down all the way to the lake. Could that be it? Could it be because where's the first chance they go? Every chance they get via the Bears Still Suck, where they do vacation here? Could it be because You drive around Whitefish Bay and you see more cubs, flags, and you see.
Pegger flags. Is it cheaper to live up here than it is? There. What was a flag I saw the other day? Ah, it was really fucking weird.
It was like. To the Winkler verse? It was like the Bengals, but weirder than that. It was like. It was like Purdue or some shit.
It was something so fucking weird. I'll take a look. I was in the southwest corner of the state last weekend. You know the only flags that I saw? Norwegian flags front of every house rules.
I love it. There's a big Norway population. Oh, yeah, Wesby and all those towns down there. Oh, yeah. Really?
Everything is Skogdalen or Topkagal. Nor Skedalen. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay. Actually, that's pretty dope. It is. Great ski jump that's been decimated by climate change. Yeah.
Grant.
Okay. Your expectations for the Packers are making the playoffs. Anything beyond that is gravy, mm-hmm, or mm-mm. You're asking Grant the owner. The owner would say, mm-hmm.
The fan would say, I want a little more, but the owner. Mm-hmm. Yes. We're going to have no more January because of fucking the shit that's changing. You could have made that joke.
Your timing. You could have made that joke before I started my answer. You are a lot more disciplined on the National Perspective Show. Like, you know, you don't do these like 15 minutes later. Like, oh, by the way, I have to finish that thought.
Like, I'm just going to br. You're good at it there. Here, you're just like, fuck it. I was gonna mention it randomly. There, this is my true.
Is your true self.
So, Paul, answer me this, okay?
So, coming into last year. And I remember filling in for Bill with Ben. We did like. days on days on days of this shit where it's like. What are our expectations?
Who's under the most pressure? Like the setting of the stage for the season. Who's closest to a title? Yep. Well, we didn't do that.
That's That's different. A lot of shows probably did. I kept saying that I think they will have a very similar record as they did with the last under the last year of Rogers. I think the records will be really similar within a game or two. But it will feel a lot better, and the season will be considered a much more of a success.
Of course. Is it possible? That the Packers Might have a very similar record because of the improvements in the division this year compared to last year, maybe within a game or two. But we still walk away thinking, yeah, but we took another step. Like we're still going in the right direction.
Is that possible? Is it possible that they don't make it as far in the playoffs? Or they go the same distance. Let's say they lose in the wild card round or lose in the divisional round. Could we walk away from a season like that thinking, okay, but yes, we still took a step in the right direction?
Mm-hmm. Okay, I think so too. And certainly 70% of that would be that Jordan Love went from being a Where you're arguing in the Bardo meter that he's a top 10 quarterback, and you get some pushback that he's a top 10. And now you're like, no, no, no. He's number four or five.
Sure. You know, and if it's like, and if that's like, if that's like not a crazy thing to say, You've won the season regardless of the outcome. If that's the outcome that we have, that means that the division took a huge step. Like, we're recognizing the Lions are legit and the Bears are really good, and they lose to a team, what, the Niners again? Like, who does that mean?
Who do they have to lose to in the playoffs where we're like, I guess? You know, I guess them's the breaks this year. I don't know.
I'm not even sure it would. I mean, Dallas, San Francisco. They're not losing, they'll never lose to Dallas. It'll be three decades before they lose to Dallas again in the playoffs. This guy owns Dallas so hard.
So fucking hard. Announcer Jinx, Rika Down, Tim. Clip this. Tim could mark it and post, but. Yeah.
Did I answer your question? Yeah.
I think so. Jim will probably edit out all the nomo mace stuff that lib. Lib, yeah. Jeez. The climate the Lesby ski jump climate change thing is It's real.
No one's writing about that in the. The you know, the daily Norseman or whatever newspaper they have in West V. Yeah, they're like, Oh, God, just I guess no snow this year, eh? I've lived here my whole life. I've never heard of Westby.
Never heard of Wesby never had their cheese? Maybe. It's in Wisconsin. It's in southwest Wisconsin? Westby.
Yeah.
Oh, Westby. Westby. Like where in relation to Madison? Uh about an hour forty-five minutes west on fourteen. That's why it's called Wesby.
It's just north of Viroqua, just south of Coon Valley. Just a little east of Chaseburg. Should I be embarrassed that I don't know this? Or I should be embarrassed. I don't know.
No, you shouldn't be embarrassed, but you should recognize there's a massive hole in your heart for not having experienced western Wisconsin in the same way that Grant and I have been able to. And I even look at somebody like Grant who's experienced a lot more of the lakes and rivers and tributaries more than I have. And so I get a little jealous. I love a tributary. Do you guys see that Lake Wisconsin was getting some flowers?
Or not Lake Wisconsin. The Wisconsin River was getting some flowers on Twitter earlier today. Yes, I did. Yes. It was a sick tweet, wasn't it?
Because it starts in Wisconsin and ends in Wisconsin.
Meanwhile, the Mississippi or the Ohio or the Missouri River, they're all over the place. The Wisconsin River is exclusive to the state of Wisconsin. Mm-hmm. Paul probably doesn't give too much of a darn about that. It's not a world I understand.
It's fine.
Go mow your lawn. Whatever brings you happiness and whatever piques your interest. Go edge your sidewalk. You Bart, every time on the God, I edged my sidewalk. You say that, and it makes me.
God damn it, you gotta stop. I'm bumped. I edged it. Uh you gotta stop saying that. Why?
I edged. It's just.
Okay. It's weird, it's weird, yeah. Guy helped me. And then I was like, I was telling him I was going to edge him next. Is that you know, the Blink 182 song that came out like a year ago, edging?
Is that what edging is? Is that what they were referring to? Edging the sidewalk, probably, because they're all I figured. Yeah.
How is Death Cabin Postal Service? You want to tell your audience? Um My mood changed throughout the show. I think that music is intended to do just that. Not because of that.
Oh. I wasn't really allowing myself to be one with the music. Until I saw that the Knicks had won. Yeah.
And then went to the next one because I was like watching the fucking end of the game. At the show. Because I had to know. Death camp, I've Postal Service, I never actually thought I would see those songs performed live ever. And so that was a treat.
It was like Death Cab was opening for postal service. Did they play what's going on? She's the singer on those. Did they play the song where it's like in every movie I've seen from the 50s? No, that's not they're not they just played the album.
They played transatlanticism start to finish. I'd probably have a hard time completely surrendering to that, too. That's kind of a well, it's 20 years ago. There's a lot of like those 20-year anniversary. Yeah, and these were, I'm telling you, these were the albums.
That I like. They you know. You have your albums that you listened to in times, and those were them. Sure. And then they've taken different meanings along the way.
And I didn't do this for myself. I did this for myself 20 years ago, self. Mm-hmm. I thought it would be good for that kid. to know 20 years later.
That Your emotions were in check, and you were able to enjoy the music without listening to these songs and feeling depressed.
Okay. That's deep. On a scale of one to ten, I'm not I'm conflicted about what number I would have put on you being an emo kid. Like, I think it's both. I don't think I was an emo kid.
Yeah, but you, you, do you know, like, you want me to replay back for you, like, the last 15 seconds of words you chose to say out loud? Like that I'm experiencing emotions. Yeah, that's not a developing brain at a very tumultuous emotional. Do you understand? Like the college experience, the emotions, and you are just like, you should go to college when you're 45.
And you're in check and you can you can manage shit. And you don't have to worry about where's your next beer coming and what. Girl, when the girl's away message is going to come back from Gray, so you know she's back in her room and not with your buddy. Ha ha ha ha. That's such that that's you go to college at the wrong time, man.
I wasn't judging you. I just, I'm a little bit surprised, but I'm also totally not surprised. It's a weird combination. Yeah.
I like that Bart surrenders himself emotionally on a deeper level to some music.
Some people, it's just background noise. It's a soundtrack to get drunk with friends. It's it. No, it's. It's supposed to mean something.
And you know what, Paul? You're supposed to assign it to experiences and interactions and emotions in your life. You know, one song should be, it should be. Felt and read very differently by one person versus another. And that's not restricted to emo, you know, all the bands that sing like this.
That's not, there's emotions elsewhere in the musical spectrum. I'm sorry, no, you're not perfect. Like, I don't need to be that. What song was that? I think simple plan.
Okay, so you were doing, that's what I thought you were doing. I mean, it just sounded terrible, but yeah. Exactly. Right, you've figured it out. No, it's a good song.
It's not. Sumen la dir Trademark Nothing lasts. I had to. I put that brewer video up. I had to take some.
audio out because like Heya was playing in the background at the fucking stadium from 2005. By the way, are you really going all in on engagement? I see you posting individual clips. Brewers fan reacts to Craig Council joining the Cubs. The hell is that?
Uh on Twitter, I'm just being miley.
Okay. On YouTube, I'm trying to make And on Facebook, I am going strictly for engagement.
Okay. So you should understand that. I can understand that. Make money, money, make money, money, money. Mm-hmm.
Yep. All right. Well, this is fun. Good to see you boys. To see you guys forthcoming next week to interject into your thoughtful conversations.
I look forward to it. about going potty on dumpsters. Pets. No incorrect. Piss dumpsters.
One of my roommates just had piss jugs in his bedroom. He didn't even want to walk up the stairs to the bathroom. Just jugs under his bed. That's gross. I agree.
Great Darrell. All right, Mike. Bye. Bye. Okay.
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