Let's bring in Chris LaCivita. Chris, thanks so much for joining us. Brian, hey, how are you? Thanks for having me. Man, since I saw you so much at the RNC, which by all accounts was unbelievably successful, great to meet you in person, but everything changed within 48 hours. Was it, how unexpected was it for you guys at the time in which it happened?
Well, again, thanks for having me and a big fan and appreciate that, you know, being given the opportunity to talk to you again, your listeners today. But yeah, I mean, the RNC convention was, by all accounts, just a great showcase of the differences and what Donald Trump is bringing to the table, what he's going to do for America as it relates to what had happened or transpired in the last 48 hours after you and I first met. You know, it's quite remarkable. It's not without precedent, at least as it relates to Democrats.
It was not unexpected. The campaign actually, back in May, we started a gaming out scenarios in which, you know, how would a Biden, how could Biden be deposed? You know, literally, you know, through through the DNC's archaic sense of rules and what they do, you know, with their convention votes. So we actually had been been preparing that for for quite some time. I mean, obviously, for in the earlier stages, not so much like it's going to happen, but just to prepare, you know, campaigns, you worry about everything and you plan for everything.
And so we really went through a planning process and then it was just a matter of wait and see and let's see what what, you know, strategy that they that they implement. And then, of course, it took on a whole new meaning after Donald Trump just eviscerated Joe Biden at the debate. And, you know, there was some talk going in that, oh, this was all a setup.
And, you know, a lot of that is not without consideration. But, you know, the fact is, you know, Joe Biden basically demonstrated to America that he was unfit and incapable. And of course, Donald Trump made every point he needed to make and just totally destroyed them. And they replaced them, deposed them basically because they knew he couldn't win. So I know that as a Marine to your training, not only working in politics, but in the military, you got to always plan for the worst or different case scenario. Right. So there's another school of thought that is by taking that debate early, it exposed Joe Biden to the point where they could still replace him, where if you did the debate when traditionally in August or September, it would have been impossible to replace him. Do you regret taking the debate?
No, not at all. I mean, look, we we we worry about what we can control. The campaign is always focused on what it can control.
And, you know, some of that you just you don't control. You know, we can focus on the kind of campaign that we put together, the kind of messaging and the TV commercials and all those kinds of things that, you know, the amount of money we raise. You know, we followed President Trump's lead. President Trump made it clear very early on that he wanted to engage in a vigorous debate with them. And clearly their their belief going into the debate was that he could do it. He being, you know, Joe Biden and, you know, but you should also know that from a historical standpoint in 2014.
And I think it's important for your listeners to know this. But when I said that this is not without precedent in 2014, in the state of Kansas, there was a Senate race and it was Pat Roberts and the Democrats had nominated had nominated someone. And a guy got into the race who was an independent.
His name was Greg Orman. And Greg was, you know, he had a lot of money and the Democrats decided that they stood better chance of defeating the incumbent Republican Pat Roberts than they with an independence than to what they did with who they nominated. You know, a Democrat who received over 100000 votes in the state of Kansas in the primaries. And so they want they sued to take their own guy off the ballot. In Kansas and the Democrat leaning state Supreme Court agreed with them and they literally disenfranchised over 100000 votes statewide. And then they put this guy, Greg Orman, on and at the beginning it was a close race.
And then Pat Roberts came back and ended up winning by over 11 points. So my point is the Democrats routinely do this. This is their war on democracy, the way they actually if they don't like their duly nominated person, they could give a damn about the grassroots and who they vote for. The party bosses are the ones who dictate who's going to be on the ballot. And that's what they've done with Kamala Harris since she got in this time.
They opposed the sitting president, Brian. Right. And then with Tony Fabrizio, your pollster and your friend came out for Donald Trump. He said, listen, they're in a sugar high right now and no doubt the polls are going to tighten and she might even surpass Donald Trump leading up and maybe pass the convention. Are you prepared for that?
Do you agree with that? Well, I mean, look, Tony is a brilliant pollster, has been. I've known him.
He's a good friend of mine. He's obviously done work for the president from the beginning, going back even pre 2016. But I certainly 110 percent agree with the fact that there will be a slight bump for Kamala Harris. You're going to see it.
I mean, look, anybody would do better compared to a corpse. I mean, you know, but, you know, but we're already starting to see that sugar high starting to dissipate. And look, like I said to you earlier, we worry about what we can control. Right. And we are we are a professional team of people who know what we're doing, very focused.
So we're not worried about, you know, whatever comes our way. Very interesting. So I want you to hear what the vice president said yesterday, kind of challenging you guys. Let's listen. I'll tell you, I'm ready to debate Donald Trump. I have agreed to the previously agreed upon September 10th debate. He agreed to that previously. Now it appears he's backpedaling. But I'm ready.
And I think the voters deserve to see the split screen that exists in this race on a debate stage. And so I'm ready. Let's go. So are you guys ready?
Do you want to keep that date? Well, first, first and foremost, you know, I think Kamala Harris will regret using the words Americans deserve a split screen because we're going to give them a split screen. We're going to give them a split screen between what a defunded police country looks like and a country that supports and funds police departments, a country with runaway inflation versus no inflation.
I mean, so split screen all day long. You know, the debate that she's talking about. Was a debate that she agreed to that actually was agreed to by President Joe Biden with I believe it was ABC. And they don't have a nominee yet.
They don't. They don't have a nominee yet. There's still an open window for someone to challenge her. She doesn't even have a VP.
So once that gets settled, you know, then we'll take it from there. But right now, I mean, look, she doesn't set the tone. The vice president does not set the tone. Her campaign does not set the agenda. We're setting the agenda and we're implementing it. And, you know, that's that's why the way we see it from this point on. So I understand that the president's come out on true social, I think, and said, I don't think we're doing an ABC debate.
Why don't we have a Fox debate? Where do you stand on that, Chris? Well, I think that's the reason that the president's coming out. And I think that's the reason that he's going to come out.
And I think that's the reason that he's going to come out. How are you guys on that? We're 100 percent. I mean, but but again, when we get a nominee, when we get a nominee and they have a vice president, then we move on. So you're not ruling out that date. You're not ruling out that date. No, no, no, no.
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Consent not required to purchase, message and data rates may apply. So a couple of things. First off, Michael Steele used to run the RNC, now on MSNBC, said this. I don't see a world in which Donald Trump mans up and debates Kamala Harris. The felon is not going to debate the prosecutor. That's just not going to happen.
When the question comes around about his 34 felony convictions, what do you think she's going to do? I mean, really? You want to walk into that buzzsaw in the conversation? So you can throw the border all day long, but you'll miss me on everything else. Your thoughts? You know, I generally don't give blowhards like Michael Steele the time of day. He's a joker. He's a grifter on MSNBC. So I let it be.
It's not worth my effort. But one thing, Chris, I know what you're saying, but I will say the nominee, the presumptive nominee did say the same thing. That this guy's a felon and this is what I do.
And this is how that's what I do as a prosecutor. And I think the attempt is to get under Donald Trump's skin. I asked him that yesterday on Fox and Friends.
But what do you think, Chris? Like, what do you advise the former president? It's pretty clear. I mean, you want to talk about her campaign, her record as a prosecutor? Sure.
We could do that all day long. Like, you know, all the times that she refused to prosecute some major criminals in San Francisco. I mean, look, if you want to see how successful she is as a prosecutor, yes, most definitely look at her record.
So, I mean, that's a that's a debate that's easy to have. I mean, she's been coddling criminals since she took the oath of office. So, you know, nothing new there. But going at the president in those New York cases, those convictions, which I know you're petitioning. And now with this immunity out there, you're trying to get them to revisit it with Juan Merson. We'll see what happens.
You've had a series of victories on that when she comes out and says convicted felon. How does the president respond to that effectively? Well, you know, the president will respond to the president. But this much I know is that it does nothing but demonstrate to the rest of America that, yes, in fact, the Harris Justice Department is full, full war behind this effort to weaponize the judicial system against Donald Trump to prevent his election. Let's not forget there was an effort nationally to keep him off the ballot in key battleground states that failed when it went to the Supreme Court.
You've got this boxes case, which has just been thrown out. And, you know, what was amazing to me was the day after Joe Biden announced that he wasn't running. You know, the federal government just, oh, we just found all these new records as it relates to, you know, Joe Biden's box case. President Trump won his box case legitimately by getting it thrown out of court.
Joe Biden won his because he was deemed mentally incompetent. Right. We'll let the record speak for itself. But they're walking right into it. They want to fight over that.
Sure. So a couple of things happened with J.D. Vance gave a great speech, in my view, at the RNC.
That's very comfortable. Sat down with Jesse, I thought was very strong. They're starting to go through some of his interviews, one of which with Tucker Carlson. And he talked about Democrats being run by childish, childless cat ladies.
They don't have a strong stake in America's future because they don't have kids. I might have paraphrased and missed a few words, but that's roughly what has been driving CNN and MSNBC for the last 24 hours. What's your response to that? Well, I mean, look, there's there's there are a million and one different interpretations.
The fact of the matter is it's been blatantly taken out of context. As a matter of fact, there was a discussion today where the follow up there, the Democrat follow up attack is that is that J.D. Vance believes that only people with children should get certain tax breaks. Well, that's called the child care tax credit. So now we have the now we have the Democrat Party and the Kamala Harris campaign on record as opposing something that's been law for years, which is the child care tax credit. So, I mean, look, we expect this kind of thing. You know, they drag out the, you know, they're there has been actresses of Jennifer Aniston to come out and make these attacks. Look, we just we just sit down. We're about fighting for the for the working women of the United States, the forgotten people of the middle class. J.D.
Vance is the perfect representation of that. They know it. It scares the hell out of them.
And they're just you know, they're going to peddle in fiction and we're just going to have to deal with it as we go forward. But I mean, as a campaign, you're not against childless women. No, that's absurd. It's absolutely absurd. Right. Are you concerned that J.D.
did so many interviews, especially leading up to winning a hard fought tenant race, that there may be other things in there? Have you guys looked at all this? We're very comfortable. J.D.
was the best pick. The president loves them. We love him. He's a great part of this team. We're going to continue fighting alongside of them to make America great again. And again, he is a very important part of this campaign. He is, you know, a central part and we're thrilled to have him.
We're talking to Chris LaCivita. He is co-running the campaign management with Donald Trump. Lastly, people, you know, people writing up what is the campaign strategy? You know that Kamala Harris didn't get the nomination because many people thought she was too left wing. She was for decriminalizing border crossings. She wanted to ban fracking. She wanted to ban offshore drilling. She wanted to defund the police. She wanted to defund ICE. All those things were not resonating with the American public. But then she became vice president. Do you run against the one from 2020 or do you run against the three and a half years as vice president with Joe Biden? Well, it's a smorgasbord of liberal ideas that that Kamala Harris has embraced and made part of her central identity since she first took the oath of office, decided to serve as a, quote unquote, prosecutor who spent more time letting people out than than in. So, you know, it's really obviously we don't tip our hand, Brian, too much on the strategy standpoint. But when you have someone who wants to limit consumption of red meat, who lied about the border, who is primarily responsible for the the human dilemma that is the border, the illegal crossings.
When you have someone who has advocated and secured people's relief from prison, who then went out to kill somebody else. I mean, there's so much to work off, but it's a culmination. And we had a great first interview. Hopefully it's just one of many. Thanks so much for the time. We'll see you next time.
