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Good morning, everybody. It is the end of the week. It's a good Friday. Happy good morning, everybody, Friday. I might do the same Brett Good joke I do every Friday, on Good Friday.
Uh maybe I won't. It's Friday, April 7th. I will be on rider than you if you're catching this before 9 a.m. Central.
So if you want to join that and uh Really, get a full dose of BART. I mean, we got the podcast here. We got two hours on CBS Sports Radio. We'll be back on CBS Sports Radio next Friday. for another writer than you.
So it's always good to be back on the old airwaves. At 1250. A.m. even though like Nobody's there. anymore.
Okay, we're gonna get right into it. Paul Emmig and Grant Bills join me. We're talking brewers, talk some bucks. It's pretty packard light. I think it's completely packer-free.
And then some WrestleMania stuff to wrap up because Grant. had watched. WrestleMania for about the first time ever. Grant, of course, does his show, The Whisko Sports Show, and then Paul and Mick are goodest of buddies.
So we'll introduce them, reintroduce them in a moment. After that, I got some voicemails to go through.
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Okay, uh as far as the masters. I have a weird thing with the Masters. I don't like their history of like. Racism and sexism. Uh But also, I I don't there's part of it that I'll never go there.
I'll never be at Augusta. I just know that. On what on what plan in what situation do I wind up at Augusta? Watching these guys golf at Augusta is like watching people walk on the moon. Allegedly.
Come on.
So it's it's weird to me One of the things I really love is when I go to another sporting event, if you go to a stadium that's not. In Wisconsin, and then you see it on TV, you're like. It just, it's, it's, I like that. It's better almost. I don't know.
Augustus, like, I probably won't go to any of these golf events ever. Any of these courses, but Augusta, it's like. I just know I'll never be there.
So I feel like such a peon when I watch Augusta. I feel like I feel like I'm seeing something I shouldn't. I'm getting led into this world that's otherwise a secret. And maybe that's the charm of it. But a little too haughty-totty for me.
That being said, it's beautiful. I love the tournament. I love the course. And I love the azaleas. And I love gym dance.
And I love Trevor Immelman. And I love Scott Van Belt. I love Happy Place Hemp. I want to give a shout out.
Somebody ordered some gummies from Hawaii. Who's the person in Hawaii listening? I know Kavika is out in Hawaii. Are you are you ordering gummies? If you're the one that ordered gummies in Hawaii, let me know.
That's that's cool. The gummies will get to you eventually. They're very quick with their turnaround. It's like as soon as you put that order in. I've seen the boxes.
As soon as you put the order in. Stamp it out. They don't charge you for the shipping.
So that's good. They make all their products right at their location. They're in Muskego, and then they get him out to you discreetly in a nice little white box most of the time. Not so that people are going to be like, oh, he takes gummies, but they're going to be like, Oh. That guy just got gummies.
If you were driving along, Just like I was at the opening day parking lot and I saw a bottle of fireball that I did not steal. If your neighbors are walking by and they see, Says happy place hemp on the box. They might take that.
So the screen packaging comes in handy. Gummies, the CBD, the CBN, those help me sleep. The THC, those help me. Um That's what I do now. Get a nice THC, maybe the Delta 8s.
and just sit back and watch Jessica Jones. HappyPlaceHemp.com. Promo code is Bart. 25% off every single order. Promo code Bart.
Jessica Jones, by the way. Very sexually graphic. I'm watching every Marvel show, including the Netflix and all the movies, and I've never seen the Netflix ones. The Defender series. She's like, her and Luke Cage are going at it like every other scene.
It's like, for a prude like me, it's like, oh, heavens, no. Anyway. Onto the sports with the All right, it's Grant Bills. It's Paul Emmig. It's both of them together.
What a treat. Edition number 77. I actually counted it, it really is. 77 what? No, I don't know.
I just say we haven't done that many.
So I don't know. We may have over the course. Maybe if well maybe if you can Combine trivia plus Oh, you got to be triple digits if we're combining trivia and let me let me bring this up. Both of you guys are of the industry professionals.
So Here's something that I'm um I'm not bothered with it, but it's... Like we don't have to be We don't have to walk on eggshells this much. I'm so curious. Grant, do you know what's about to happen? No.
I want Chuck to be on my show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He has a locked on brewers podcast.
Yeah. I think it'd be a perfect. We could help each other out. I think there would be a.
Some interest in Chuck and me doing a show again together. Mm-hmm. I bring up Chuck's name constantly. I err. old clips of Chuck.
I don't run from the fact. I was told on the latest lockdown brewers, Chuck was reading tweets and he was like, Oh, this one says, When are you and your old partner going to get together? Like, he wouldn't say my name. He's too afraid to say my name. I I tell you.
I'm a ghost, man, in this town. I'm a ghost in Milwaukee. Nobody will acknowledge me. Every conversation I have with people on radio has to be like, Fucking secret through DMs. No one's willing to admit they No one's new associated with you.
Yeah. But then I'm not on radio yet. I am. all the time. Men who work in sports talk are just so We're all children.
And it's fun. But it's like we're so territorial and we think all these things matter, and they just don't. Yeah, that's why everyone was so mad about the Caitlin Clark Angel Reese thing because. You know, it it made the most sensitive group of people in the world had to watch women's sports, and that's uh. Yeah.
9.9 million of them. I think was the final 9.9 million, yeah, watching the women's. It's a big number.
So, what were your two hours like?
So far on your nationally syndicated show. Monday, I thought, was a dominant show. I thought I really brought my A game. And so I, you know, I did a five-hour show Saturday, four hours on Sunday. Then I felt like on Monday, I gave two hours of my best work.
And then I got a few compliments. Ooh, right to your head. from like The higher ups. Woo! And my first segment on Tuesday, I was like, I couldn't fucking talk.
You just bricked it. At one point, I go, Yeah, in the first half, San Diego State only had six paints in the point, and at that point, And then I'm waiting. I go, Tom, did I just say paints in the point? He's like, I didn't know if I should say something or. How long did it take for you?
Like, did you notice within a few seconds? Yeah, maybe like five or ten or something. But that's fun though. Like, as long as you play it like that, as long as you play it off as like, hmm. I think I just said pains in the point.
Yeah. It's endearing. It is endearing. Oh, thank you. All right.
Hey, let's ask some questions and give some answers. All right. This is going to be. A Packers Free Zone. Interesting.
Do you want to start Bucks or Brewers? And we'll conclude at the way end. Anti-wrestling people with a mania question. It'll be at the end. It'll be at the end.
Grant, I'm told you watched Sunday Night. I did. Um At a Legion hall? Yeah, at American Legion. I don't remember which post.
Do you guys, is that coming through? It's totally coming through. Yeah. Is it a call to your voicemail line? Yeah.
Who is it? How often does that go off? I'm getting a call on the Carl's Place voicemail line. Hey, answer it. No, it's Spark Guy.
What that's great, bring him. I'd rather use him for the Voicemail. When you need to fill time and you don't have two active guys, I have two guys that I have to like track down. And I could use now I can use that phone call. And probably by the time that.
I've published this, I've probably already used the, I probably used it yesterday. This shows what a time warp we live in.
Okay, so Bucks or Brewers, where do you want to start? Grant, to answer your question, my phone rings. When you call my voicemail line, 402-915-BART, Carl's place, carlofet.com, backslash BART, Gulf Simulators. Get one today. It goes to my phone.
Mm-hmm. So if you were just like, want to fuck with me one night. Just call the voicemail line all day. You do, you, you, you're a do not disturb guy, though, I hope. No, come on.
No, are you really not? Paul, I don't even know how to do that. There's no work-life balance in this business, Paul. You're either all. I'm not a do not disturb guy because I don't know how to do that.
You s I mean, slide down, hit a button, and you're good. No, I don't know how. It looks like a little moon. Yeah, that's like. Yeah, I thought that was something else.
You're just brewers, by the way, Paul, to answer your question. I'll take brewers. I'll take brewers for 500, please. I have a for 10 or minus 10.
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Are making you, and here's the important word. very optimistic. about the present and future of the Milwaukee Brewers.
So, if you're like, optimistically, we're not very, it's the three of them that you've already seen, plus the two of them that you know are coming, it's Churio being the third overall prospect in all of baseball. has you very optimistic. About the present and future of the Milwaukee Brewers. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm.
Would you like to start, Grant? You're the Brewers insider. I can start. I will say, mm-hmm. And my answer doesn't have to be long.
I think. That the way they're bringing up these guys and the way that the roster is going to kind of grow as Freela gets here and then Churio, I don't know, maybe next year, maybe in September, they're ushering in this next wave of talented players. Assumedly, as some of these talented players depart. Like, it doesn't seem like Corbin Burns is here for the long haul. I was hoping Brandon Woodruff would be.
He's probably not going to be. The way I've been framing it on my show is: Brewers fans can feel this window closing, this current window, which is why I think we're a little on edge. We become a little defeatist. We can see the Burns. Woodruff window closing.
But down the wall, down the hallway, there's another window that we know is going to open. And I think these guys that are coming up, that's signifying the next window.
So if you want to look at it with windows or bites of the apple, the way the talent is coming up and the way that it's all lining up fits what the brewers are trying to do.
So well, for me, too. And I think that what I'm trying to explain, or at least. Let myself explain it the best way: is there is that one, and there is this one. And it's not like they have a Without the young guys, without all these young bats, and we'll group them together. I believe they're being called the freshmen based on the Brewers web series, which I think was excellent in my idea.
Um I think that what the bats, if they show out. early which To this point, I believe they have, or at least. I mean, they're fast. They can hit. There's a lot that, you know, we'll see the defense come along as well.
And then you have this Other team like Burns and Woodruff and Adamas, who I'll say, because they're all going to get big contracts. Forgot about they're all gone. When the 2025 season starts, none of those three are in Milwaukee. No. So if you see enough from the Young Bats, I think the Brewers should be.
You know, in the front office, make that decision, say, Let's do this. This is the two years. Let's do it. If they're coming up, because either we get the pitching and the bats aren't ready, or the pitching's gonna go, and then we'll have the bats. And we could always try to find guys elsewhere, but we have them now.
Let's just, if they, and I feel this way to both equations, if they now get really terrible. and are 10 games under under the break. Maybe, maybe let's speed up the process, get these guys out of here, get something back for them. But if they're competing, And you know, you're probably going to lose Burns and Woodruff. And I'll reiterate this: I don't think these guys, and in sports, I don't think you need to say, well, what am I going to get for him?
I need to get something for him. I don't think you do. Because What you're getting for him is him, for you. True. For two years.
Whoa, I don't know how to even do that.
Okay. Yes.
So, what am I going to get for him? If we don't trade Corbin Burns now, what are we going to get for him? What are you gonna get for him? You're going to get quarterbacks. You're going to get two more great years of two years.
So I think we need to look at it that way. Instead of trying to sell for people. Are the 2016 Cubs? By the way, a good comp for this team because the 2016 Cubs had all those young bats before they got. Great before they got paid, before they were established.
So, is there a Parallel there at all. I haven't really. looked at that, but just something that comes to mind. 2016 was the year they won it all, right? But the year before, Chris Bryant was already rookie of the year, or runner-up to rookie of the year, right?
There was. One of the guys, I think Brian had already. I think, I don't know, but hey, if that's the comparison, that would be incredible. Because they want to.
Well, that's that's. If the brewers were trying to do it while they had the pitching, before the pitching's gone, and while the bats are young, but maybe not expensive, like they're trying to, they have these two windows and two timeframes, and they just got to merge them. Just enough to have that one run, or one or two years. Maybe it's this year and next, maybe it's just next year. I don't know.
For what it's worth, I saw that the brewers are $12 million under the payroll that they had last year at this time. Which, by the way, is Josh Hayter's salary. But if they would use that 12, Bart, to your point, and say, hey, like. We can spend another 12 this year. In some capacity, be it a trade deadline acquisition for a guy that makes a lot for the back half of the year or whatever it might be.
So, like, there is. In theory. Wiggle room, you know, unless they were so in the red that they felt they needed to cut 12 million to make it. Even the other thing, Bart, that this thought came up while we've been talking about this. Golden State Warriors fan Bart Winkler has talked about the Warriors were doing two paths at the same time.
They had their varsity team, Staff and Clay and Draymond, and then they had their JV team. They had their pool and their Wow. Moody and Wiseman. And like they tried it, they tried to thread that needle. I'm kind of feeling like The brewers are at that.
The way you're describing it almost feels like they have this outgoing team of old guys, and by old, I mean in their late 20s. And then they have this new crop of guys with the full six years of service time still left. All of that to say, This is so much more exciting. than Colton Wong and Hunter Renfro and like Good. Fine veteran players.
This rules, like, this gives me like fan juice to, like, oh, I want to watch the games. I'm going to, like, even if I miss it, I'm going to watch it. Um the same reason why This year will be more exciting. With Jordan Love. Yes, it's fun.
With Aaron Rodgers, it is fun. Maybe that's not true for everyone, but for me, it's very true. Like, for example, When you saw I don't know how intently everyone's watched the games, but there was a play where Um, the ball just got in front of the catcher, and Terang went from second to third and like barely snuck in under the wire. It was a really close play at third. But those are the kind of like Colton Wong is not trying to take that base.
You know, like Joey Weimer Swinger. Stakis isn't trying to take that bite. Grandal guys that they've had over the years. And I know, like, the bigger bases and the fewer. Eduardo Escobar.
Ooh, he's gonna name brewers. Um Corey Spangenberg. Oh. The brewers are Taking it almost like it lined up well, like this youth movement lined up well with. The increase in speed being a thing that matters.
When a season starts, NBA or MLB or NFL, it's always fun in the beginning, right? Because it's new and it's different. But this this is something I feel is going to be more sustainably fun to watch. Because of the speed, because of the youth, because of the energy, Freddie Peralta tearing up at the Bryce Terang moment with his family. At this moment, they played four games out of a possible, you know, out of 162, hopefully out of 170, 180 plus games for the year.
But like the early vibes, the early mojo is fun. Like, it's just. It's good.
So I answered on behalf of myself. Can I also answer to excitement on behalf of somebody else? Yeah. I'm just going to. Craig Council, I feel like, is more excited.
I feel like he's been rejuvenated by this. And I think he likes coaching Terang and Weimer and experiencing all these things with them. Like, I think that's very rewarding for him because when I was at spring training, you know, listening to him talk about the opening day lineup and some of these young guys coming up, like what matters to his players matters to him. He said that so many times. And I think he's feeling very rewarded by all of this.
And the comp that I thought of is: when you're young, right, Christmas is this magical thing. Right, and it's the it's you can't sleep the night before Christmas morning, and as you get older, you kind of lose that, but when you have kids, right, that magic comes back, right? You start seeing the magic of Christmas through their eyes. And I think counsel, maybe this year, even if it's his last year as a manager, I think he's going to get some more pep in his step because now he is. Viewing the magic of baseball, which he's become so accustomed to, and maybe Woodruff and Burns have, he's getting to experience that through Terang and Weimer.
And I think he's really going to like that. I think that's going to add to the team. I I didn't know how good your take would be, you know, because That was I that was great. Why, it's real, Bart. You're both parents.
I don't have any kids, but that's the real thing. No, you're right. I mean, you know, love. You're totally right. You accurately summed it up, Grant.
I would like to say something about Mark. Mark Atanasio, I'd like to say that.
Well, you said it right. You said Atanasio. That was great. That was an accident. Um You know, he had his comments and I didn't even rate him.
I didn't read him. I don't know what he said. I just saw like quote tweets, like, oh my God, F this, or whatever. We do that every year, don't we? Do we not?
We know we know on opening day. Mark's going to talk. There's going to be something we don't like, and we're all going to complain about it. Like, there's certain intersections that I have to go to when leaving the house, and the stoplight is longer there, and I hate it, but there's nothing I can do about it. It's just a part of life.
It's a part of life. It's you cannot It's not going to change.
So I did not participate in the Mark A is cheap. Discourse. this season. Then I went to go have a beer, and the beer was seventeen fucking dollars. For a River West Stein.
Like that, that's at least a five dollar increase. What happened there? That was gross. Sure. I'm with you.
I actually didn't. I didn't buy a second drink. Because of The fact that Then I was going to have a, I like to have a beer and then a rum. And the rum was going to be 20-some dollars.
So what I did instead was go home. And then made a rum. and watch the rest of the game. Yeah. So you left because of the price of the beer?
Yes, and then I came home, made a drink. on my own. Yeah. We have concession stand at home. We have drinks at home.
Yeah, so I I made it at home. Mm-hmm. Good take on Mark, by the way. I think sometimes we just complain about him to complain about him. And I think that's casual brewers' talk.
We're better than casual brewers talking. Oh, brewers are cheap.
Well, they don't have any money.
So. Yeah. Just nature. It's the way things are. By the way, if they were to do it, there's what, 10 days left that you can do a poll on Twitter?
Is that right? Before we lose our polling power? Or has that already happened? Think of the appeal of when Twitter polls go away. This is going to be folks' only direct source of you're just going to have to reply with your favorite GIF or your favorite GIF.
Good discussion. I think, about to say, if there was a Twitter poll. Like Brewers fans, like 95% plus, would have said to this question, right? Like that the youth movement is invigorating and has you very optimistic. Are we speaking for a Brewers fan?
Yeah, that coupled with games are a little more. Full of action. All right, well, don't don't cheat me on my next question here, unless you want to call it a segue. I'll try to segue. This pitch clock in shorter games is awesome.
Mm-hmm. I hate to agree with my main man Zabe here, but I do. Oh no, let's see. Yeah, what did... What did my friend Steve Zaban said?
Steve, who got to play a game of catch on the field? I mean. I've been going to Miller Park for 15 years, I would never dream of doing something like that. I like to go to places and report on the team. I don't necessarily like to make it about me.
I mean, um well the media does begin with me. I don't know if you've ever heard that. I've heard that. Um Yeah. He said, This is a Steve Zabin tweet.
Firmly believe the pitch clock is awesome, but it needs to be twenty and twenty five, not fifteen and twenty. A nine inning game that runs about 210 is not enough product. And yes, time at the ballpark is in fact part of the product, not just the twenty seven outs per side. The practical minimum length of game should be about 230, average somewhere around 30, and long at 330. I am, I Brought him up because I'm giving credit to him because I agree for the most part with that.
We went from one extreme where it was guys can do whatever. Like you can go up and order a hot dog and come back, and nobody, there was no penalty for that. And then now it's like you have 15 seconds, go, go, go. We went from one extreme to the other. I think they can add a few more seconds back, not really lose anything.
We'll see if they do that at this point. And I will tell you also, when I was at the game, I don't know when a pitch clock violation's happening. I didn't know there was a pitch calm issue. I thought, like, Carrasco. Go ahead.
Rub something on his arm. I didn't know what was going on. I think the ballpark, and maybe I'm just stupid, but the ballpark can do a better job of communicating what actually is happening. I would like to see that, or the umpires could at least say, like, pitch violation instead of just going up, hands up, hands this way, point the first base. Like, it's okay to speak.
You know, I don't mind if they speak.
So, yeah, Steve Zabin, excellent tweet. I agree with him. Also, God do I love Quick Trip. Holy fuck are their oranges delicious. Grant.
I like the new rules. I don't remember what the question was, but the pitch clock is awesome. Or and the speed of games. The pitch clock and the speed of games is awesome. But also, Paul, there's too many people like.
The expression isn't. Hey guys, don't you really like the actions quicker? People are saying, Oh yeah, two hours and nine minutes, yes. Like I don't I'm not in a hurry. Especially if I go to the game.
Well, so far, I left in the third inning. I think. Yeah, wait. Yeah, th that I I hadn't thought about that. That you want games to be longer because you like watching them, but then you left early.
But you like watching TV a lot, that it's one of your passions. Um, and it is one of my passions. I'm just starting Jessica Jones now on my Marvel Watch. Ugh. I like that.
I like Bart, that Grant you said. One of Bart's passions is watching TV.
Well, it is. Jesus Christ. Like, it's Law and Order on Thursdays. It's raw. And you came on my show earlier this week, and you're like, I have nowhere to go.
I have nothing to do. I don't mind long games. I'm not going anywhere. Right, so you're someone, you're someone when you watch TV, you're not like actively checking the time and saying, okay, when is this going to be done so I can go get these things done? And and go these or you can get things done while you watch T V.
No, to see, like that's I now baseball.
Now I like have to focus.
So, Grant, what you're describing about Bart, I think is accurate for you, Bart, right? What, did I love TV? I'm a fucking American and I'm fat. Of course, I like TV. No, more so of like.
You would Do you like you don't mind the game being long because you're doing other things while you watch most of your TV programming.
Well, I mean, you're surfing the internet and scrolling Twitter and doing things, those are two different. No, but like, so, like, so, but granted, so the complete opposite is true for me. If I'm watching something, no matter what it is, I'm intently, solely focused on that product.
So, and I know I want you to still answer. I will jump the gun here and say, like, for me, it's a heavy, and obviously, you could probably tell that by the framing of the question. Because I want to watch and not do other things. I want 210? Fuck, great.
Love it. Like, get, you know, I got everything I need. There's another game tomorrow. There's another game the next day. There's another game the next day.
There's another game the next day. Like, I do want to do other things, but I also want to watch the game.
So, for me, from like a time management perspective of my own life. Yeah, if I know I can go to a Bucks game and it's going to be over, and by the way, an NBA game is like two hours and 10 minutes, like all in.
So anyway. Your your you answer. On the Zabin tweet, I just I just can't imagine getting bent out of shape about five seconds. It's like, I like the new pitch clock, but it needs to be, I don't even know how long it was. I don't, I don't, that it's, I just know that they're going faster and they're being kept to a schedule.
It would be like if the play, if the play clock in the NFL went from. 45 to 40, you would notice that. I don't know that I'm. I don't know. I don't know.
I like that there's a schedule. And I put up the stop clock, all of a sudden it was 19. Baseball is not supposed to have a clock. I understand that. In theory.
Right, but in practice, I like that these games are staying on track. I don't think I'm going to think about the pitch clock. I don't think I'm going to pay attention to it. I don't think I'm going to notice it. I think what's nice about these new rules so far is the crummy baseball games aren't.
Going long for the sake of just going long. Like, if it's a 2-0 game or like the Brewers Cubs on opening day, what was it, 4-0? And all the runs were scored in one inning, that game sucked. Like, we didn't need more of that game. I don't think in a great baseball game that the pitch clock is going to prevent us from having this great start-to-finish game.
Like, I think we'll still have games that take a little bit longer and are great and we'll enjoy them. But then, when there's a game every once in a while that just completely and totally blows, we'll get it over with. And I'm about that because I'll watch Brewers Baseball, I'll invest time in it. But if a game sucks and I can't get any good content from it, if nothing's interesting's happened, then just wrap it up so I can go do something else or watch something else. Yeah.
Yeah, so But wait, so Grant, your answer so your answer is kinda like you're fine with it. I guess I'd love to summarize your thought then. I will say, you do like it. I don't think that these changes really are having the vast impact. That everyone likes my day-to-day of watching the Brewers really isn't changing.
Now, if you're interested in taking the averages of all the games, I'm like, I don't give a shit about that. I don't. I don't care. I don't go to that many games. I go to maybe two or three a summer.
I don't live close to the ballpark. I watch the Brewers, and that's it. And I don't really care about anything outside of that. I would tell you that I'm much more likely.
So Bart, I think you talked about this with your friend Chuck Freeman. At different points, talked about how, like, the NBA is a national sport where you can like watch other teams, and the Brewers or MLB is a regional sport. You just kind of watch your team, and you're not going to watch the the Rays against the Orioles on a random game. This The speediness of the game now, where I think I could actually get one in in two hours and ten minutes, has me much, much, much more likely to watch a random game, knowing that I don't have to commit somewhere between three to four hours. Interesting.
So, I don't like that you said get one in. I immediately thought of sex. That's instantly where my brain went. No, I'm not thinking of. Did you Intercourse.
I'm thinking of like it feels like a chore to you. Oh, I got to get this game in. I want, like, I'm scared. If you're planning out your day, so do you need to watch the whole thing? You can't just turn on Sunday night baseball and watch three innings and then, like, turn it off.
That's, yeah, that's what I do. I would rather watch the condensed game after the fact in the 15 minutes than watch a random game. Do you ever like just to have sports on to have sports on? Almost never. And, like, not pay attention to it.
Interesting. Almost never. It's either a fully dedicated golf.
So you've never had the joys of a golf nap? Never. Oh God, this is the whole reason I love NASCAR. I just turned it on and there's something on it. I don't even know what it is.
I've never had a NASCAR nap, I've never had a golf nap. I didn't say this is a good thing about me. I just said it's a thing about me. That's like. Yeah.
It's either it's either you get my full attention. Or no? Oh, wow. Wow, okay. Any other thoughts on well, I would say this too.
As an as a consumer of baseball. I love the shift being gone. I think that there's more. I feel like people are swinging earlier. I've not seen the stats.
It feels like people are swinging earlier in the count. That there's more like that, the players, and probably the analytics people who are telling the players this, there's a higher likelihood to get hits now. Or at least that's the the assumption, the hypothesis.
So, like, how many first pitch hits have the Brewers had? I don't know the number, but like, it feels like a lot. It feels like they're swinging earlier.
So, there's other things happening too. I love the speed on the base pads. I saw after the first two games of the season, I saw like a stolen base leaders chart. And the Orioles had a guy with four and a guy with three. After two games, stolen bases, like Mullins and um I don't know, but It feels like the game is not just from a pitch clock perspective, but from the shift being banned, from the bases, and the emphasis on pickoff moves, that the game is moving differently.
And I approve of it.
Okay. To look up who it is who's stealing all these bases. Yeah, please tell me. I did say there were two Orioles that were first and second. I think it's Mateo.
Cool.
Well, I bring it up because there's a guy who went to my high school who's now in the majors with the Orioles, and I don't know if he's a base stealer. Are you just the new Ryan Horvad? Did you also hit a home run against this guy in Joliet Catholic? No, but do you know Delilah? From the song here, Delaware.
Are you going to have this guy on your show when the Brewers play Baltimore? His name's Taron Vavra. He played at the U of M. His dad was a coach for the Twins for the long time. He only has four at-bats.
He has one hit and one strikeout. I don't see steals. All right, let's pivot to Bucks. Um If the Bucs don't win the title. Yeah.
If they don't win the title, the team that you would say is most likely to be the one that knocks them out. It can be the East, it can be the West. The Bucks don't win the title, but the team that would be most likely to knock them out. that you would be fearful of them being knocked out by, is the Boston Celtics. Mm-hmm.
Or mm-mm. Do you know my take by now that you could say it for me or not, Grant? Do you want me to say for? I could do your take. Say my take.
Mm-hmm. And I said this on CBS Sports Radio the other day. Not all across the country. I said this, I think, on Monday before going home to watch seven Avengers movies while my son played in another room. I think that the Bucks can beat anyone in the NBA.
They can knock off the Sixers. They can knock off. I think the Celtics can knock off the Bucs. The Celtics are the only team that can knock off the Bucs. The Celtics can lose to anybody.
The Boston Celtics could beat the Bucs. Nobody else can beat the Bucs. I botched that. I'm sorry, but you get the point. Bart was a pretty high.
You were so eager to get a dig on me. About my Avengers love. I know, and then I botched the take. Only the Celtics can beat the Bucs. That's it.
End of story. Maybe, maybe, maybe the Sons of KD is like an all-timer of a series. Mm-hmm. Uh So I would put Boston Suns. Um Denver?
No, that's the finals. I will bet my penis on that. Wait, on what? Let's get this. Let's get this straight.
Let's get this. Yeah. You'll bet that on what? I will bet my penis that Denver doesn't make the finals. I'll swim across Lake Michigan.
What was Chuck's Lake Michigan bet? The Brewers don't make the finals. I'll swim across Lake Michigan. There you go. Got a win player.
I'm not going to bet my genitals, but it'll be the Celtics. The playoffs are like years long. Like I looked it up the other day. The NBA finals start, I think, on June 1st, and they could go two weeks, two and a half weeks into June. And it's April right now, like 4th, 5th, it's early April when this podcast is going to drop.
So there's a lot of ground to cover. The Suns get hurt a lot, right? The Clippers get hurt a lot. The Lakers get hurt a lot. The Sixers, James Harden, get hurt a lot.
The Bucs, they don't get hurt a lot, but they're not as deep as Boston. And they're a little older.
So, if there's any team in the NBA, I think that's the best bet to stay healthy throughout the whole thing, it's Boston. And for that reason, I'd. Think they're most likely to knock off the Bucs more than anyone else. Bart's future boss. at the ringer Bill Simmons, which, by the way, I'm going to share this with your audience, Bart.
Grant. You know how like the ringer has Like regional politics. People just keep telling me to go apply for the Ringer. No, I'm not telling you to apply for anything. I'm telling you that this show was built to be the regional answer to like the Ringers' Philly special and their Orlando show.
And like their, this, this is like. Tailor-made. I want that pie. I want that podcast. I am of the youth.
I am what they want. I can do some dumb article on succession. I can watch four seasons of succession and count how many times they say the F-word. Is that what you need? I can shit out content like that at the ringer.
Of course I'm happily employing, but. Right, but right. See, that's why I didn't say you, Brett. That was the only thing that stopped me from saying you. You're happily employed.
Bart has not been on national radio in like. Minutes. Hours even since the last time Bart's bart with Bill, imagine Bart on with Bill Simmons and Rosillo. No, it would be really good, it would be extremely good. I would punk you a lot.
I would punk. I said I would punk those fuckers, yes. And I mean if there's any If you've learned anything, it's that if you're really abrasive, people will hire you. All of this to say, they were talking about. He'd be like, Why should Giannis be the MVP?
And I'll be like, Shut up, Bill, you Celtics-loving loser. And I'll be like, shit, you're hired. Damn. And he said, Hey, do you know how I have access to the brewers? Wait, I don't have access to the brewers because I know.
Okay. I don't know what you'd bring to the table. All of this to say, they were talking about a second-round matchup of Kings, a Kings, Cavs. Bucks. And they were trying to figure out Are there enough like Big Donovan Mitchell games, is there enough Bucks cold shooting games?
Are the Cavs winning more than one? In the second round series against the Bucs, like if that goes to six Seven? Like, how do you feel about are the Bucks a shoe-in to get to the Eastern Conference finals to play Boston or Philly? Or is there something with Cleveland that gives you any pause whatsoever? Yeah, if COVID shuts down the league and then they don't play for four months and have to go play at Disney World, then I could see the Cavs getting the Bucks.
By the way, they concluded. That They would not, but you know, like. Bud throws away game ones pretty casually. The Bucs will have a cold shooting game. Donovan Mitchell could put up 60 in a game or two.
You know, is it enough to force a game seven? Anyway, all that the yeah. Um That's the correct math, by the way. They'll lose one of the first two at Milwaukee because that's just what they'll do. He'll take on the mitigate, he'll have a game where he goes nuts and it'll go six.
That's how I would see that going. All right, speaking of which, uh conversation I heard, um This might have been Bucks Throw In Zach Lowe on his podcast. They were talking about how Jaron Jackson Jr. is the presumed. Defensive player of the year.
But the conversation that they got into was that The presence of Giannis and there not being a Giannis in Memphis to kind of help Jaron Jackson Jr. is hurting Brooke Lopez's Candidacy because Yannis is so good. And so it's like, well, how much is that help there and whatever else? All right. So it sounds like, in some order, the Top three finishers for defensive defensive player of the year will be Brooke Lopez, Giannis.
With then presumed winner Jaron Jackson Jr. If you had to say, if you're on a national radio show as the guest, And they said, Grant, hey, Bart. The box The well, yeah, keep dreaming, pal. The Bucks' best defensive player. Is Brooke Lopez?
Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. No, it's it no. Mm. It's still yeah.
But that's no shade on Brooklyn. That's nothing against Brooke. But it could be what's keeping Brooke from winning, though, because if he's not even the best defensive player on his own team, how can he be defensive player of the year? Yet, Brooke is going to finish ahead of Giannis in the polling, right?
So it's like, can so it's almost like Giannis, it's fair to say, I think, based on the conversation I heard with Zach Lowe, was. that I'm Just by nature of his presence and being a better defender than Brooke Lopez means Brook Lopez can't be the defensive player of the year in the whole league.
So anyway, that's kind of it. Bar, you were saying more, but go ahead. Oh, yeah. I was talking this morning, or two mornings ago, or three mornings ago, or whatever, but I brought up. I brought up Ty Windish, gave him a little shout out from Eurostep Podcast.
You know, he lives in the Fox Cities, and so he's covering a lot of games up there. But then he went to a Bucks game recently, and it was just a good reminder for him. But he said it's just it's a nice it's nice to like Watch Giannis in person every now and then. You know, because you watch him on TV and there's still like some separation. When you see him up close, it's really like, oh my goodness.
And I do think there is this sort of. Giannis fatigue that's happening. And it's weird too, because Giannis isn't good enough to win the MVP because of some fatigue. But then Brooke can't win the defensive player of the year because Giannis is there. Yeah, isn't that fun?
And people say, well, Yannis, you win the MVP. Who's around him? And then, well, Brooke's around. It's just a weird. It's a weird thing.
You just want guys to be. Uh And honored for their talents and what they do. But if you do have to get to the nitty-gritty of it, Then maybe that's the default. Maybe, yeah, there's no Giannis. It should be Jaron Jackson Jr.
But I think what Brooke is doing. Is uh even without Yannis, I mean, he's having a tremendous season. And so, yes, it's nice to have Giannis, but that's like just because you have one all-star on a T doesn't mean you can't have two. I mean, they complement each other in a way. I would still like to see me try to figure out what my point is, but instead I'm just going to leave it to Grant.
Grant, welcome to the National Radio Show. Uh I am your host. Zach Lowe? Bill Simmons, I don't know. Grant, I know you're a Bucs guy.
You cover the Bugs. Giannis is their best player, their best defensive player, excuse me. Or mm-mm. Can you ask? I will cosplay being on a radio show, but you need to ask it like a radio host would.
Yeah, no national shows doing it.
Sorry. Welcome back to the show, everybody. I've got Grant Bills here, the Wisco Grant. We call him sometimes. We're just having a little NBA conversation.
We want to get someone from the Milwaukee area and we wanted to ask him. We're having a debate about Defensive Player of the Year, Grant Bills. And we're doing this segment called Mm-hmm. It's really fun. It's really catching fire across the country.
Yeah, real fun, hey? Ha ha ha ha ha! Yeah, thanks. Hey, thanks, guy producer.
So, uh, Grant Bills, we just wanted to ask you, we're trying to debate Yannis and Brooke Lopo. Uh, so it's called mm-hmm. You say mm-hmm, if you agree and mm-mm if you don't agree. Uh, Yannis on the Kumpo is uh the Buck's best defensive player, mm-hmm, or mm, Grant Bills. Yeah, Giannis is their best defensive player.
And Paul, I appreciate you guys having me and Bart. Nice to be on as always. Giannis is their best defensive player, but. You know, on some of these contenders, you have... A roster that eats itself just a little bit, right?
So, Yannis allows him to. What? We're a very energetic show if you could kind of pick up the energy. Oh, Jesus. You If we're role-playing radio, if I am the guest, I have to bring a polishedness that you guys are not.
What do you want me to do? Do you want to do WWE? I can't do that. That's your job. Cut me a promo.
Look. Here's what it comes. Here's what I was going to say about Brooke. Brooke allows them To play the type of defense that they do this year because they've stopped giving up threes. Trusting Brooke and what he can do on the back end allows them to do that.
Like, that's a very direct result this year of how good Brooke is. Like, if you watch the Bucks every night, you can see compared to last year and the year before, it just sucks for Brooke that Young is also unbelievable and Drew is also unbelievable.
So they're probably going to split votes and none of them will win. Yeah, it sounds like for what it's worth. I wish that radio bit would have gone better. I feel like that had potential in it and it just flopped, but that's fine.
Well, Paul cut you off. He ruined his own bit. I just thought he'd hear it like because it was that was that was boring. He was being boring. You gotta pick up the no.
Sports radio is boring sometimes. You didn't even start for 10 seconds. I was born. Yeah, I was bored. If I am one of the hosts, then I could.
I wasn't a host. I was a guest. I was a contributor. Yeah, guests are always boring. The whole point of a guest is to kill 10 minutes.
That shouldn't be the whole point. But then, Grant, once you were just Grant again and not guest on the national show, Grant, then you were great. Then it was very entertaining.
Well, They have three unbelievable defenders, and they all do different things, and they all make each other better. I just don't know if that reflects. in awards. I I don't know if these awards are always the truest reflection of of how great a defender is or how good a team is, and that's just the way that it works sometimes. It but it sounds like there's a chance.
Um Drew could get first team all-defense NBA. Giannis will likely get first-team all defense. Brooke, I mean, could the Bucs have three? First, has that ever happened? Has there ever?
I mean, At the very least, the Bucs should have three of first team, second team, all defense, NBA. I wonder if that's ever happened. Yeah. This is where it'd be nice to have Bill Simmons or Zach Lowe or somebody. They could speak to this.
Yeah. All right. Well, sorry for ruining the bit. I think the answer is mm-hmm. To be honest.
Giannis will finish behind Brooke Lopez in the Defensive Player of the Year. Rankings. And Giannis' presence does, unfortunately for Brooke, hurt his chances because it's like, oh, well. Jaron Jackson Jr. is covering up for like who?
Like everybody. Whereas there's Brooke and there's Giannis and there's Andrew and I'm also outside of MVP. I'm just, I'm not a huge awards guy. And seeing we've talked about the ringer, let's bring the ringer up again. I just get so annoyed by.
Like Rossillo and Simmons getting together every week for the last two months of the season, and it's like, well, Ryan, I I don't know if we've seen a collection of defenders like this in the last 16 or 17 years, and then Russil will be like, Yeah, well. You know, I'm just looking at some of the numbers and I just don't know who I'm going to have on my ballot. And I haven't decided yet. We got a lot of games left. It's like, I get it.
You guys both have fucking votes. Like, yeah, give us an update on where you're leaning, please, every week. It's so, it's such good content. Ugh. So, for that reason, it's like, well, I want my first team all NBA to be able to play on a basketball court.
Like, if you play the game, it should make sense, right? And then Russell's like, yeah, but then what do you do with players who are tweeners? You look at some of the advanced numbers and cleaning the glass. It's like, yeah, just throw out buzzwords. And yeah, it really, like, really, it's great content, guys.
So I think I'm just like DPOI, like Defensive Player of the Year and first team all DBA. It's just. I'm so sick of basketball podcasts just doing that for the final month of the season, and that's the whole show.
So. Yeah. I'm fatigued. I'm voter fatigue. Grant, you gave me a good segue, and I'm going to take it.
Your favorite discussion, and Bart loves this topic about NBA MVP voters. But this is what I'm genuinely curious about. Everything I ask is because I want to have a conversation about it. That's why I ask the questions I do. NBA MVP voters.
should take into account the historical implications of who they vote for.
So the the Pro point to that is like, Jokic should be the first player since. Bird? to win three in a row, I think is what that right?
So A voter, you're a voter. You should take into account that historical implication. You should not just look at it in a vacuum of this season. You should. take into account the historical implications of that vote.
Mm-hmm or mm-mm. It's because up until this year, we've done that. And when you do An award based on precedent, and you build continuously one year to the next, you can't just all of a sudden stop doing that because now we need to go back and reinvestigate and re-litigate all these previous MVPs that were done differently, unless you're doing like a hard cutoff. Like, like. the the example I used on my show was like uh B C or AD, right before Christ.
death. Or, I don't know what the secular version of that is before current era or whatever, unless we're doing a hard cutoff and the NBA community is all of a sudden gonna decide that we're doing it differently now, and that is a. A point in history. Then it needs to be done the way that it's always been done. Otherwise, that minimizes previous MVPs, and I don't like that.
Yeah, because now you're going to give Jokic if you're going to give Jokic his third one. In a row, that has not happened since the 80s, since Bird. And there is a fatigue factor to it where they look and they're like, we can't give it to Jordan every year. We have to give it to someone else. We can't give it to LeBron every year.
We have to give it to someone else. Well, but if if they're the MVP. It doesn't, it's so like the MVP, and I'm with you, Grant. I mean, they talk about it too much. You start to see MVP ladders all the way back in.
on NBA.com in fucking December. I mean, it's too much.
So, and it just seems like that's all like. People want to talk about and mad. At more of hardwood peroxim is like melting under the neath the weight of trying to get. Jokic to be the MVP, and it's like going to kill his brain cells. He's trying so hard.
I just You have to. Like the MVP, it's not the MVP. The MVP is never the MVP. It's who should we give this award to? Who do we like the best?
Who's had a good season with all these other weird qualifiers that we make up as we go along?
Well, he doesn't go deep in the playoffs. He can't be the MVP, but isn't he the MVP of the regular season? Who is the most? I still look at it as its most. It's most true.
Who is the most valuable to their team? And if it's if it's Giannis, it's Giannis. If it's Uh in bead if it's in bead. I think Peyton Manning should have got it the year of the Cults when 2-14.
So, wait, Bart, do you want to give it to the best player or the most valuable player, or are those two always in lock? The word is. It says most valuable player.
So give it to the Most valuable player. Then I would rule Giannis out. The Bucks without Giannis are better than the Nuggets without Jokic. The Bucks without Giannis are better than the Sixers without Embiid. Because the Bucks are not Jokic.
Jokic only plays with the starters. Huge conspiracy. Denver is a piece of shit. Fuck them. Hate their team.
They're too high in the sky. No one should be allowed to play there. Their airport's full of Illuminati. Piece of shit, fuck. We should definitely do a podcast on the Denver airport.
I look if you want to do value, first of all, you have to really be obnoxious about it like Cowherd does. You have to say, it's the most valuable as you lean into your microphone and say it that way.
So, forward, if you could. I know, but it's, but it's not. It's not. We can't, it's like the Supreme Court with porn. We can't decide, we can't put it into words what it is, but we all know it.
Like, we've all understood for however many years now that it's a mix of most valuable and best stats, and it's a little bit of an achievement, like who had the best season, but then it's also previous precedent and playoff performance. And we've all understood for years that that's how it worked. We've all, it was this unspoken thing, and you can go back and see the voting because it's always reflected. We always say, oh, closest MVP ever. And then the voting's not close at all.
Because in our mind, it's like, wow, this is a close one, but we all obviously agree it's Hardin or it's Giannis. And for years, it worked that way. And then this year, everyone decided to get stupid. And then all the MVP voters are like, why did this get so toxic? I hate what's happened to the MVP conversation.
It's like, well, look in a mirror. Like, it's your fault. And also, Matt Moore, Jokic winning three in a row is stupid. And you're going to get called out for that.
So, if you don't want to be bullied and you don't want your timeline to be so toxic, then don't be wrong. Like, that's step number one. And I think he's starting to come around. I think we've bullied the Jokic people into being correct.
So, bullying does, in fact, work sometimes. Life lesson.
So wait, so Bar, your answer is That they should consider the historical implications or Whatever the answer is to not give Jokic three in a row. Yes.
So, yes. Yes.
Okay. Because what you're saying, and what Eric Name told me, and that was a great interview, you can go back and find it, is you're saying that no one. Has had as good of a three-year stretch. in the last 40 years. Until Nikola Jokic.
See, but the one thing I didn't like about that just wouldn't be true. The one thing I don't like about the argument, though, is it's all relative to the other players of whom we're in that same three-year span.
So it's not that necessarily that Jokic hasn't had the best three-year consecutive streak. ever It's that so no player's ever had such a good three-year stretch, or has there not been someone else there in the middle? I'm going to end the MVP talk. That's fine. I just can't, I can't, I can't stand Yelp.
He's getting so toxic. Oh, but I can't stand this guy. He is a stat-padding. Meanie, he's a son of a gun. He's a He's a fiddlestick head.
I don't like him. I don't like him. I just don't. I'm sorry. Do I have an answer and a reason why?
Maybe I don't like how he looks. Maybe I'm a bad person. I don't like him. I don't like him. He should not be kidding the MVP.
I don't like that everyone's in love with him. Maybe that's it. I don't know. Please, God. Please, I would, if God said, Bart, you get one wish.
I'd say, Jokic, not MVP. He'd say, world peace. I'd say, I've told you. He'd say, meaning of life. I'd say, God, he'd say, did I raise the dead?
Your assurances that I'd say, can you just fucking listen to me, God? I don't want Jogic to be the MVP. Get it through your thick skull. Why don't you work seven days a week like the rest of us? Oh, God, is that lightning?
All those good place points you picked up by not stealing the thing that you didn't steal from the Ampham parking lot. You just lost. multiples of said good place points. But I think God would appreciate I talk to him like I talked to one of my buddies because God is my friend and he's with me wherever I go. She's with me wherever I go.
Uh I don't know how I'm going to frame this question. Grant, how how much do you watch WWE? I know you watched WrestleMania on Sunday. Very little. Very little.
Almost none. Why did you watch it? I got invited to a party. Tell us more. It was at the American Legion.
I work with radio people who all love wrestling and our rock station, 957 The Rock. The afternoon's guy loves wrestling and he's always inviting me to his Functions at his house. And I can never go because I'm never free on the weekend because I'm either in Milwaukee with my girlfriend or she's here. And I don't know that she wants to. Nothing against him.
It's just, hey, babe, we're going to go watch wrestling with other men and Eat meat for a couple of hours in a backyard. She's never been about it.
So, Sunday night, it's at the American Legion, which is right up the street from my house. I'm in.
So, I was along for the ride. I had some wings and some pulled pork and watched. And I was doing the thing every time. Brock Lesnar did the throw. Who is he throwing?
What was his name? Omas. Udo. Uo. Yeah, j every time he would throw him, everyone would yell something.
And uh yeah, that was my Sunday. That was why. Who'd you like? Who stood out to you, Gray? I'm just curious from like a casual.
Who'd you like? Oh, yeah, that guy. I like that guy. I loved the Intercontinental match between Gunther and Seamus and McIntyre. I didn't know that I was pulling for anyone.
Everyone in the bar wanted Seamus. I don't just don't like the red hair.
So I think that turned me off of him. I was kind of happy that he didn't win. Although I. not happy in the bar. Everyone was really bummed.
I I kind of I don't know. Red hair, the chops. No, it wasn't for me.
So, Grant, you might not have the background to answer this question because you're casual, which is fine. Hey, Bart.
Okay. Uh Vince McMahon is officially back. And he's been sent here to destroy the WWE. He's, yeah, he's, yeah, he got a $9.2 billion valuation. Awesome.
But now he's back in charge of creative. Vince is going to destroy everything that Triple H started to rebuild. Or mm-mm. And by the way, goodbye to everybody. Thank you for listening.
For those who are like, I don't care.
So thank you for listening. Have a nice day. For those of you who are still here, Bart, Vince is going to destroy all of this. goodwill that was built out. The way I feel about Jokic, you feel about Vince McMahon.
Uh yeah. That's fair. Um I think you're overreacting a little bit. They're not gonna not Like WWE's been good. It's not just going to turn to shit.
Uh do you remember what it was for years prior to this recent better stretch? Shit. Yeah, well, he got his sale. He's got his mustache. The thing I worry about with this new Endeavor thing is.
I think they might take pay-per-views back to pay-per-views. Charge me fifty bucks a month to watch them instead of On peacock.
So I It seems like you are accusing Paul. Of thinking and talking about Vince McMahon the way that you do with Elon Musk. That's how I'm reading this conversation.
Well, why is the Doge icon still on my Twitter? I don't know. Twitter's been pissing me off this week because the and I don't like how the replies look. The replies look bad. You can't see what they're replying to, or that it is a reply.
I know. And now there'll be retweets, and I can't see who retweets them.
So I get it. You've just been on the crusade against Elon, and now you're telling Paul, like, it's not that bad.
So I'm, I, I'm just, I'm just. I'm just a normal semi-suburban. Dan, who wakes up. Wants to see my kid off to school, go work my hard-working two-hour job at CBS Sports Radio. And the first thing I wake up to is Paul's whole diatribe about how Vince has ruined the WWE and how it.
It's ruined wrestling for him and All this stuff, and it's like, my God, I haven't even, I haven't even had the chance to make my first cup of coffee, and I got to defend Vince McMahon. Not because I don't disagree with Paul in any way, but I just, I just don't think any human should be attacked that way outside of Nikola Jokic to my buddy God. Yeah, Grant, great point. I think You're Elon. Bart has the feelings on Jokic or Elon the way I do about Vince.
Elon's such a loser. Who is? Elon! Vince McMahon. Oh, Vince McMahon?
All right, we're gonna have to talk any more about this. I'm entertained. Like if Triple H was in charge, is Cody Rhodes win? Monday night.
So that's a great question. Bart, what's your answer?
So I think I was going to, I had the tweet ready. I said that. Where My tweet was going to be. This motherfucker really went and started AEW, came back, and was the one to pin Roman Reigns. And while that would have been a good story, it's also like.
WWE is almost giving themselves a loss there. Vince couldn't do it, man. Cody will win at some point, you would think. Yeah, but I saw Triple H explain in his post event press conference that it was, oh, that's just the end of one chapter. And now there's another chapter that might whatever.
So and I saw that Cody Rhodes, friend of show Cody Rhodes, His reward for not winning the title was to get his head stomped in for seven minutes by Brock Lesnar on Monday Night Raw.
So. Yeah. I think, I think, Grant. I think Triple H would have put Cody over. Vince, however.
Different story.
Well, boys.
Well, I'm just frustrating because they've done that ending before. We've seen that before, that match, that pin. It's. It wasn't even creative. You know, it's that's by the way, Solo Sequoia does follow me on Twitter.
Mm. He was on my show. People forget at the toy drive. Bart, who dethrones Roman and how long from now? In your opinion.
Who dethrones Roman? And how long from now? Who dethrones Roman? You gotta put. You gotta put a thousand dollars down on one person.
Well, he already put his dick on something else. Yeah, I put my penis on Jokic. And the nuggets. I d I did not put my penis on Jokic, but you know what I mean. Um Well, that's not what I heard, but I know what you mean.
Hopefully, your Winkler quotes person is not paying too close of attention to that. It's gotta be It's going to be Cody. Cody Or Uh the rock. Oh. Seems like a majority.
It's gotta be Sammy Zane. Punk. Dean Ambrose coming back. Then it would be more than five years from now when his contract runs out from AEW. What if Roman held the title for like?
Another 20 years and then it's Minus one, Brody Lee's kid that comes and does the job amazing. Yeah. How do these factions end? I saw a great tweet from. Dave Hero.
What if it's one of one of the Usos beats him for it? It's got to be from within. It's got to be Jay. The chat. Or solo, I guess, if they really want to build him up.
It's got to be Jay Usa. This whole thing started with Jay. It's got to be Jay. I wouldn't trust anybody with the title who follows you on Twitter, you know?
So it can't be solo. That's true. Also, AEW follows me, so take that up, your ass, and Fucking spit it out your mouth. Did that happen when you did the Giannis video of him almost tearing his ACL on the ring rope? Is that when that follow happened?
Uh I think it was, right? Yeah. Are you not coming with me to AEW next week? No. Shame.
Grant. Who beats Roman Reigns? And then we'll go. Sami Zayn. Sammy's, there you go.
Yeah. Whoa, let's go! you Bam bam. Could it be Kevin Owens? All right.
I love you guys. Get the fuck out of my sight. Always a good time chopping it up with those young men. Do appreciate that. I also appreciate when you guys send voicemails into the Carl's Place voicemail line.
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And that is some good stuff. The golf simulators is, we're starting to get that itch. Customize your own. They've got like different bays in terms of sizes, but then if you've got a specific space, they can tailor to that space.
So let's start with. How about this one? Vincent and Anaheim. Who the long-running bit is because he used to call the radio show. And mention something from two months prior.
He's a little more caught up. On the podcast. Here's Vincent. Hey, what's up, Bart? Long time, no talk for me.
Not this way, man. You know, it's Vincent and Adahine. You don't want to say what's up. Hey, I got your shout-out. I got your shout-out.
I just finished. March 28th episode is April 5th as we see. I just finished it last night. You know what I mean?
So thanks for the shout out. Happy Mother's Day. I keep it, man. Yeah, you know, it takes me forever. I usually a week behind now.
I usually a week behind. I got other things I listen to, so I try to listen to it and all that. Man, but shout out, man, but hey, this is my take. You know, I love the show, and it's on your website. You're doing your big player, man.
You know, you put in that work, you hustling, man.
So, even since. Day one, after everything happened at the fan, you know, you put in that work, man, you hustle. And everybody else has podcasts too, you know what I mean?
So it it's pretty cool. Anyway, man, first go brewers. What's up, Tim Street, man? Love it. All the time sign off like that, play it.
Go Brewers. I go. Might get mad, but it's like, hey, if Aaron Rodgers gets traded before you hear this, then it's all good. But I think it, because all y'all. motherfuckers all y'all aaron roger haters I mean, I'm down with the package.
Don't pack motherfucking. go Could a super ball Want him to win for sure. You know what I mean?
I don't care if Jordan loves the quarterback. I want my team to win a Super Bowl. I'm going to root for joy and love. I wish him the best success. I don't like you hating, hating on Aaron Rodgers, a California guy from California.
I do like Cal, where he came, you know, he went to college for us.
So that's why I kind of, you know, have that thing for him. I'm with Orvach. You know, so we'll see. Black. Imagine, because y'all motherfuckers are like, oh.
You know, Patrick's gonna take their time, they can take your time. But imagine this. Imagine if Packers can't make the trade, then just say, fuck it, Packers. We fucked up. but I'm gonna bend over backwards for y'all.
So you can keep Aaron Rodgers. And you know what? Aaron Rodgers stayed. Become That he comes to training camp and he beats Jordan Love in a QB competition.
Now, imagine. And that's it. I don't know what will happen. But if it's if it's if it's Yeah Performance is there. You know, now that will be some slapping to the face on the Aaron Roger haters.
But we'll see man. Say Aaron Rodgers almost fucked up. I want to see him fully housed. and we'll see what happens. But whatever happened.
I'm still down with the Packers. I don't like all of Aaron Rodgers hate. I love it. Everybody has their opinion. A fan could be a fan.
But every man Yeah. All right, Jeff Fireman, keep doing your thing. How about them brewers? I had to check in with Tim Allen. Yeah, the other side.
You know, I had to check in his post-in show. I like it, man. Tim Allen, I think he has a post-camp show like usually at six. That's cool that you can go on. do your thing after right after the pitch.
But you're not really interfering with that, man. Yeah. That's all good part of your thing. Yeah. Watch out for my Lakers.
Watch out for my Lakers now. All those non-believers. All right. I think the system, once you start talking Lakers, hey, I believe with you with the Lakers. Yeah, we're going to do Brewer Post game shows.
We'll be at a more of a random. Occurrence. I can tell you the next one, still not sure about Sunday, but Wednesday afternoon should be able to do one. They're out west next week. And, uh, I mean.
We can live, we can live without doing, and it'll bring me the opportunity to provide to provide you more content, different content than saying, Brewers beat the Diamondbacks. Oh, I love these young guys. I mean, I do, and they will, but still. Also, the Jets are not going to back away from Aaron Rodgers. Two words: Tim Boyle sign there.
Wow. Uh, I mean, could you be any more desperate, Jets? The Jets are playing this all wrong. They should be flirting with Lamar Jackson, they should be interested in Mac Jones, they should be putting out all these feelers there, trying to get the Packers to think that they actually aren't desperate, and instead they signed Tim Boyle. The Jets are an embarrassment to negotiations across the country.
And I'm someone who has tried to negotiate raises several times to the grand total of zero new dollars. Here is John and Franklin. Good morning. John and Franklin. Happy Friday.
Let's bring that back. Congratulations to the Milwaukee Bucks. Couldn't ask more out of this team, seriously. You know, can always find flaws, but seriously, this team has brought us a lot of exciting moments, and there's a lot more to come. Yes, I am a little bit concerned about the matchup with Boston, but I can guarantee I'm not losing sleep about it.
And this team's going, man. They look unstoppable. But there's going to be some challenges. This isn't just going to be an easy ride to the title. But we all just got to kind of hang loose.
I know there's some overreaction to our art knockoff version of Skiff Bayless and his commentary about Middleton. Just relax, understand what he does.
Okay. You can always find fault with anything, but this team brings us so much joy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you call. Hot take Jake. Our version of Skip Payless?
Just watching this team brings me joy. When the ball's swinging around and they're flipping their passes, and Giannis is me mugging, I mean, come on, we're living in good times. Very excited about the rumblings about other teams showing interest in Rogers. This is what needs to happen. Rogers isn't going away.
without first round pick. In compensation. That's just stupid. Yeah. I don't I understand bargaining, okay?
I'm a negotiator. I love doing it. There's I love the back and forth. But don't be an idiot. Don't be stupid.
You know, seriously, did you get on that plane and just think we were going to get them away? I mean, come on. And if they're going to continue to be that way. We already know our path forward.
Okay. Jordan Love is Starting game. One for the Packers. This is what's happening, regardless of what chaos is going on with Rogers. We need to isolate ourselves from it.
We know what we're going to do. And let's hope this kid. is our third great quarterback. and hope he doesn't go off the rails at the end of his career. I'm off.
All right, yeah, that's another thing. Future Jet Jordan Love. One more. This is Matt in the Falls. Uh does have some things to say about hot take Jake.
Hey, Bart, it's me. Um I got a few things on my mind. Um Nothing crazy. Um so let's see. I was just re-listening to uh last night's episode.
Um And I got to the part with my friend Jake. And um It's it's just really it's really tricky because I think that there is a lot of truth to what he says. and his opinions. Chris Middleton. Um but Um It's just, it's hard to listen to.
Because A, I love Chris Middleton. And he He's a cherished athlete in my heart. Um Yeah. I mean, he's He's kinda right, and I'm scared about the future, but I'm also upset because i don't want to be thinking about this right now i don't want like We just ramped up the one team overall. We're the best team.
We have like this is the best roster we've ever had. And we should be just getting super fucking excited for these playoffs. And My friend Jake is just. He sees in storm cloud over my head. when it comes to the box.
And I still love them. But Jake, we got a... We gotta put a pin in this until after the playoffs. Like I can't I can't be like coming on to the postgame after we, you know, sweep our first round opponent and be listened to. Oh, well, are we going to extend Middleton?
I can't do it. I can't do it. I won't do it and I can't. Um So that's that on Middleton. Let's just put a Just put a pin.
put a pin in all the future stuff and let's just focus on this playoff run. That's all we should be caring about right now. Um second. I am worried about the Celtics. If you watched that game the other night, like, yeah, it's the regular season, it doesn't matter.
They absolutely destroy us, and they have absolutely destroyed us. numerous times in the past.
So if If you're going into this Celtics, sorry, Celtic series, damn it. Um Like with bravado and you're not worried, then you're You're setting yourself up for heartbreak. 'Cause the Celtics are really good. And Jalen Brown is going to have a 45-point game, and Tatum might have a 50-point game, and we're going to have to overcome those. And yes, we have better players.
And a better roster, but they just They were a great team. Yeah. So are we, but I'm I'm worried about the Celtics more than anyone. Um And lastly, congratulations to me for being two years sober today. Just want to brag about that and let everyone know as I shout up from mountaintops.
Congratulations to me. Have a good day.
Something to be proud of. For sure? I'm still working on two days in a row, but We all have our battles. I will agree with you, Jake. And anybody?
Middleton Contract, those two words. For this playoff run on this show. cannot appear within Four minutes of each other. Anytime going forward. Keep them.
You gotta keep 'em separated. That's a song I used to sing to my son. I made it up. We will be back on Monday with a new episode. I have no idea what's going to be on Monday's episode.
There will be a review of The Brewer series for sure. And I'll talk some bucks and we'll look at the NBA seatings.
So I guess I have an idea. I just don't know when, how, where, or why. I will record it. And there'll probably be some other surprises along the way. It's going to be a weird, wacky week.
Next week. I'm Bart Winkler. Talk to you next week. Have a good Easter to those who celebrate. For the ones who work hard to ensure their crew can always go the extra mile.
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