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Good morning, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler. We've got Grant Bills and Paul Imig with us today. And I'm all. Hello everyone.
Sorry. Yeah, what the fuck? I'm gonna restart it and then keep it in. Good morning, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler.
That's Grant Bill's Paul Immig. I'm all set. I got my four golf hat, 4golfapparel.com, promo code BART10% off. We're on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. Danshaney.com.
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You must you must you must buy the The lotion the next time you buy there, slashing crisis across the board. All of this to come. Right now, my two crazy guys. Grant Bills and Paul Imig. We're all inside.
Don't worry. We're inside. Windows are shut. With the smoke now. All over our, you know, if I was president, I would simply build a border in the sky.
To keep the air out from Canada. Yeah. Yeah. We're still worried about people coming in on the ground. Why aren't we more worried about the air coming in over us?
You know what I'm saying? It looked pretty smoggy in Milwaukee today. I can't see the bluffs in La Cross. I can't see the bluffs. It doesn't look as bad as it looks in.
In your city though. I don't think. I mean, it's not like it was orange like New York, but it's just like True. I don't know. I was driving home and I thought Should I not have my windows down and then I just turn them down?
I don't I don't know. I don't know, but you guys like I am definitely Might hear it, but like, I'm feeling the difference. Like, my nose, my congestion, my. My body is very reactive to weather. Like, I'll get headaches if, like, there's like a temperature change that's tend to like I get a headache.
Like, it's just a given.
So, I'm very, very sensitive to the weather the way it is. But this is doing a number on my Yeah, this is doing a number on me. You know what I like is that I've seen every tweet possible, every like. I've seen The smoke sucks. Then I've seen, have we simply asked Canada to put out the fire?
Then I've seen, why is everyone complaining about the smoke? Like, why aren't we paying more attention to the fires? What can we do to put out the fires? I mean, it's just. Everything from one thing to the next.
You got. You got aquatic experts, then doing experts on coups, then doing experts on the fire. On the coup subject. I'm frustrated that that took place. from like a Friday late afternoon to like early Sunday morning.
Like, that's why I was because I had a wedding Friday night and I was busy Saturday. Like, if we're going to try to overthrow a government, can we do it from Monday to Friday, nine to five?
so I can follow along on Twitter and have something to watch at work. Feels like we kinda wasted the coup. Nisa V, you know, internet coverage. It was all on the weekend. No one's online on the weekend.
Oh, sure. Uh then I was I was watching CNN. On the coup. Oh really? The The Berner's like worse than Putin.
I mean, I don't know which one's worse. I just know if there's going to be a story, a wild story that lives on Twitter that I can follow on Twitter, I want it. During the week, because then I can turn it into content. That's why the submarine story was so great. By the way, I am.
Shipwrecks are back in the modern. This, this is at my time to be alive. I'm watching Titanic content. The Lusitania I see is trending. Reading comments on the Lusitania YouTube videos.
They're like, I'm here from the sub. Like, people are. Don't you feel like people die, though? Don't you feel bad?
Okay. People die every day, Bart. Yeah, I feel about it. Let me put it this way: I'm not one of the people who are like happy. That millionaires died.
I'm indifferent. You know. Sad, sad, sad. I shouldn't say it different. I'm sad.
Sad. Indifferent was the wrong word. Hey, Tim, Tim, cut those last 20 seconds. Yeah, thank you, Tim. In post, are they running a lot of submarine coup coverage on CBS 58?
This might be a good opportunity to have a current events segment with Tim Shea.
Well, yeah, if Tim's doing his job right, he should get somebody to check out the. Ship that wrecked just off of that water. And a historian, always find a local angle. Mm-hmm. Oh, there's a coup in Russia?
Well, what if somebody tried you know, I don't know what the angle is anyway Recount, we could do a this day in history, the Scott Walker recount. Not really a coup, but kind of local. No, it's this day in history.
Well, no, but I don't know, find a way like Giannis getting drafted was 10 years ago as of this recording. Yep. Yeah. All right. We should include Paul into this.
Paul, go ahead. I'm I'm enjoying your banter. Yeah, I don't know. It's not sports related. This is more of the and stuff variety.
How are you, Paul? We always burden you with content create. We never ask how you are. Wow. Uh I've known Bart a long time.
He's never once asked me how I am.
Well, that's what I said. We ramble about dumb things, and then it's like, all right, Paul, dance for us. Go ahead, do your thing. I like my role. I'll be honest.
I like my role that I fit into, though.
So it's, I don't do it under any duress. I am doing fairly well, other than my. Upper respiratory situation. I'm excited for these topics. And Yeah, I've been listening to a lot of good music, as you guys know.
I know we all agree, AJR is a really good group. I'm so anti-AJR. I just didn't expect that from you. It's outside of my typical range. The fun thing is, and I don't mean this, I just want people to know, I think they're fucking terrible.
I don't the the the fascinating thing is like three months ago I had no idea who it was I came upon it randomly. And when you guys told me yesterday, like, oh, that song's on the radio, I had no idea. Like, I just thought they were like, I was like, is this, do six people listen to this? Is this popular? And then you're like, oh, it's on the radio.
Like, oh, okay. Do you like OAR? Bart I but I think Bart's an OER guy was. Yeah, OAR was my high school high school death cab. I am not an of a revolution guy.
Oh, that's what that stands for.
Okay. I've seen him a couple of times. I saw him at the House of Blues in Chicago, believe it or not. Really? Yeah, I did.
And I had a great hat. Mine are my favorite hats. And at the end of the night, I threw it in the crowd for some reason. And then. I lost it and I was pissed.
There's a there's a couple Lollapalooza quote-unquote after-party shows I saw coming up at House of Blue Chicago, including Grand Sky Young Gravy. Hmm. Grant, you seem like a young gravy guy. We we listen to his Rick Asley song on the boat this weekend, and I enjoyed it. I don't really know much about him other than that.
I do know the one you're talking about. And then also, I know Bart is a big Jared Leto guy, and 30 Seconds to Mars will be there. Yeah, they're okay. You probably rocked like some from yesterday, like 20 years ago. From yesterday.
Yesterday Um Happy. Uh Alright, that was my... My tangent for you. Paul's Musical Minute. Presented by four golf.
If only my name could be. 10% off. Mark or Matt, then it would have a better ring to it. Matt's musical minute, but we'll settle for what we got. Are you ready for the sports portion of the.
Sports and stuff. I'm ready. I want to talk about bagels. I want to talk about. No, I don't.
Yeah. Here's one I saw. And I always give credit. When it's not my original idea. By the way, since we last talked about Christian Jelich and his all-star candidacy, the topic has become.
Well, a thing. I'm not sure. We were ahead of the curve on that. I will say, in that regard, Bart's guy Armin, I saw posted this. Do you like Armin?
No, I know you do. I know you do. I didn't mean that sarcastically. Christian Jelich has now quietly led the team in. Wins above replacement.
OPS on base. Total bases, runs, hits, doubles, RBI, stolen bases, and walks.
So not too bad. Here's the question I want to ask you, and this is one that came from Brett in Tosa. I saw he was tweeting with this. At Sparky Radio. Kind of familiar with his work, but he was tweeting back and forth, and I and I thought this was an interesting way to approach a topic that I was trying to ask about, like a Corbin Burns thing or Mort Yellich talk, but here's how I would say it: Brett wrote.
And they quote. You would want to sign Burns long term? Question mark. No way I'm giving $200 plus million dollars to a starting pitcher when he's had a four-plus ERA for the past 30 starts. Pick one guy of Woodruff.
Who's had a bad shoulder, Burns? Bad ERA, Adamis and Jelich to sign to sign long term right now.
So, if you admit, no, granted, Yelich is signed long term, but if you had all four on the table and you're like, okay, we're going to re-sign either Woodruff long term, Burns, Adamis, or Yalich. Brett wrote, It's probably Yellich, as crazy as that sounds. If you were to sign either Yelich, Adamus, Woodruff or Burns long term right now. The person you should give that long-term contract to of, you know, eight, 10 years, $170, $200 million of the four. It would be and should be Christian Yellich.
Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. I would say to that. Wow. Burns, I think.
I don't know. I mean, could we, were the brewers right to hold up three-quarters of a million dollars? And and Woodruff You know, I think still has some good years left. It's about consistency. Willie Adamas hits two home runs.
Everybody's tweeting at us. Then he goes, 0 for 12. This is the perfect spot to mention Eric Spolster for the week. Only mention when it's good things, forget when it's bad, right? Yeah.
But what I said about Yelich the other night after Monday's game. If this was what you were going to get the next eight years. I think Because we saw what like we saw the best of the best, then we saw the worst, I hope. I think we would all take this in a minute. Like, he's not going to be any better.
This is it. This is what he's going to be for the rest of that contract. I think we would all take that. I think we're very satisfied with Yelich. I would still like to see.
You know, more clutch-like home runs like he used to, but Maybe that's not him anymore. He has been a very Solid piece of that lineup. I'm just looking at the month of. June. 322 hitter.
There's one, two, three. Five games he hasn't had a hit. That's pretty good. I mean, and there's a lot of multi-hit games. Uh just two homers this month, but that again When we traded for him.
He was an OBP guy. Yeah. And that seems to be what he's doing again.
So yes, I think. Willie's the first one I write off. Get him out of here. I'm not surprised by you saying that. I'm not a big batting average guy.
I mean, obviously, it's something, but 322 in June. Uh wow.
Okay. Uh grant. Woodruff burns Adamus Yelich. You only get to. Give one of them, you have to give one of them a long-term big money deal right now today.
Again, let's assume they were all at the same point of their salary arc. You should give it, you would give it to Yellow. She's the correct answer of the guy you would invest in. Or I'd say, mm-hmm. And when you first asked this question, I was going to ask: does long term mean eight to 10 years, or does it mean four to six years?
Because if we're talking about. Signing like Brandon Woodward four to six years, okay. I think I'd still take Yelich, but I'm out on deals to starting pitchers. That are eight to 10 years long. I just think there's.
There's so much up and down, and I don't think Corbin Burns is a bad pitcher. Right, everyone is pointing out, like, from this point in time to this point in time, he was this. And from this point in time to this point in time, he's been that. Like, I don't think. I I don't think that's Like out of the ordinary, I think pitchers have good stretches and then hitters adapt, and then the pitcher has to adapt to the adaptations that the pitch.
So, like, I'm not even that out on Corbin Burns, although I hope he starts playing. Better as the season goes along. Bye. I'm really happy with what Yelich is doing right now. I think the fault in the Brewers' offense is they don't have anybody at third base.
or first base to drive and runs. Right, like the middle of the order is a black hole right now. And Jesse Winger, who's you know, that right field spot is also traditionally like a Hit for power, driving run spot, that's been completely, you know, basically a zero as well.
So I don't think Yellich is doing much to hurt this offense. I think it's the pieces that are hitting behind him.
So I don't for Yellich and Paul, I'm not convinced that we don't get a month this year. Where Yelich doesn't hit eight or nine homers because you referenced 2018 when he came here. He was an on-base guy, he was a hits guy. And then in his best months, the months at the end of 2018, August, September, he hit like nine or 10 home runs a month. And it's like, oh my God, he found something for those two months.
So if this can be kind of the floor for Yalich. And then every once in a while he can really get hot and bang a lot of doubles and bang a lot of home runs. Then you take the, that's the icing on the cake when you can get it. I'm really happy with Yellich right now. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I just was quick looking up some stats while you were talking about that. And yeah, Yelich in the month of June, Bart, is the 13th. ranked position player in all of baseball. in wins above replacement.
So um He's been extremely good. I think that it's fair to say that this is Miami Yelich. Is like this is this is I think everyone be very very Very maybe I'm being a bit extreme, but like I think very happy If this is the guy that plays the majority of the next, how many years does he have left? Six or seven? Like, I know, Bart, you've talked on National about there's.
He will be the new Bobby Benilla, like he'll be getting paid for a long time, but he's under contract. For what? What years did it go through? Do you know off the top of your head? 2032?
I believe it's 2032. 2032. 30 through the end of the 32 season.
So another eight years. But like I think if he plays out his prime the next three-ish years at An 800 OPS level, and you know, ranking where he is, or at least in this vicinity. Yeah, I think it's I mean I didn't I didn't know if the answer would be something.
Okay, 2029 mutual options.
So it could only have. 24, 25, 26, 27.
So five more guaranteed years left right now. Than a mutual would be in the 29th season. I didn't know what the answer was going to be here. Um, to me, when the way that Brett framed it on Twitter in his exchange with Sparky, even he's kind of like 2.3 million dollars. How much is it?
So when his contract's over. Yeah. He's essentially then being given. a 12-year deal. For $28 million.
So he'll get what, like 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 every year. Damn. Awesome. It's good work if you can get it. Yeah, I think that's The equivalent of a pension, yeah.
An incredible, incredible, incredible pension, but a pension nonetheless. Speaking of banning averages, oh, go ahead, Grant.
Well, I was just gonna say, this version of Yelich's game, this is something that should age rather well, don't you think? I do think. An uber-violent, powerful hitter. It's very smooth. He runs the bait.
Like Prince Fielder was a very violent in the way he played baseball. And that took a toll on his body. I don't think of that when I watch Yellich.
So, this is something I could see him if he keeps his mind right and he sees the baseball and hits the baseball. Like, I think he should age. Rather well. He's a guy who's been able to play every day, and I don't see why the way that he plays should. you know, hurt that moving forward.
It's another good thing. Owen Miller is hitting 195 in uh June. Yeah. Owen. Did you hear that part with Miller Park Minute guy, Eric?
He said Owen Miller and Brian Anderson both got inducted to the. Chinooks Hall of Fame and Owen came that night but Brian didn't. Hmm. Not BA Brian Anderson, player Brian Anderson. Third base right fielder.
Can I share with you guys? I got a case of the ums today.
Well, you brought up Owen Miller. Listen to this. This is from Saladino World on Twitter. I saw this last night. Rowdy Talez has a 103-plate appearance and says his last home run.
Since then, he's hitting 171, has a 203 OBP, and is slugging 226. For anyone wondering, that's a worse OPS than Jackie Bradley Jr. had for the Brewers in 2021 by 68 points.
So that's the middle of the order that Yelich is hitting in front of, which is a bummer because he's finally turned it on, and now Adamas and Tales have gone in the tank.
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Let me ask you something, Paul. Yes. NGB. And maybe you're going here. Do you have a brewer's trade situation?
I do.
Well, why don't you give it to us then?
Okay, if it happens to be the same or similar, then Or if it doesn't, please still do yours because you know how much I love being asked questions that I'm not prepared to talk about. I'm really good at it. Paul's like cone roller if he took the bag off. You get to know my name. You get to see my face.
You know nothing else about me. Yeah. You guys do. The two of you do, but yeah, it's undisclosed. Paul runs a sex cult.
False, let me just, yeah. For octogenarians. The brewers Should trade Corbin Burns. But cannot. Given the Josh Hayter situation last year.
So you're going to, if you say, you're answering two parts: yes, they should. But no, they cannot. The Brewers should trade Corbin Burns for a bat.
some positional player help. But They cannot. Given what the fallout of Josh Hayter's last trade last year was. Or mm-mm. Well, we're so mad like John Morant did a gun thing.
And then he said, I won't ever do it again. But then he did a gun thing again.
So, doing it a second time, would it make it worse? Or are we already prepared for the blow? of the brewers trading Uh somebody Our best player. When they're considered good, I don't think that Corbin Burns. has nearly the value right now.
that he would. at the end of the season.
Now maybe he lowers it too. I don't know. This is the thing with training people. If you don't trade them at their absolute apex, you're not going to get the best for them. And then teams are always going to be like, Trying to get more.
Like the the warriors, uh, the wizards could have got so much more for Bradley Beal, as you've seen. The Packers could have got so much more for Rodgers. Yeah. Um You know, even if Dame gets traded, he could get so much more than in the package. John Collins went for a second-round pick, and Rudy Gay.
It's not even Total salary. Um So I ju I d I don't know that the brewer's like I don't know that it benefits them. I'm not in the trade Corbin Burns market.
So I'm going to answer your question. And I understand what you're saying. Uh I and maybe God I don't know Enough plays into it that I'm going to say, mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree with that. Mm-hmm.
So they they they should but cannot. I think I'm going to say mm because I don't think they should.
Okay. And I also think they cannot.
Okay. Yeah. So, okay, I got you. I got you. Yeah.
Grant, the Brewers should trade Corbin Burns, Part A. But cannot. Because of what happened last year. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm.
No, I don't think they should trade Corbin Burns. And I don't know that it has a ton to do with the hater trade, although I think that's in the back of everyone's minds, including the Bruce Front Office. I just, as a rule of thumb, am anti-trading guys in the middle of the season, unless the team totally sucks. Like, if I think if there is a debate, buy or sell or stand, if there's even a debate on what the team should do. They should not sell.
They should not trade. Doing the offseason, always doing the I'm I'm I wouldn't have been opposed to them dealing Hayter last offseason. I think it's probably correct to trade Corbin Burns this offseason. And I don't think, even if he just pitches middle of the road the rest of the year, I don't think his value is going to go down. That much because he's Corbin Burns, he's one of Cy Young.
Verlander got paid all that money this year. There's going to be a market for Corbin Burns.
So, just a general rule of thumb: if there's any Discussion or debate if the team should buy or sell. They should not sell a guy like Corbin Burns in the middle of the season. Yeah, I think it's worth saying, Grant, because from our previous. Discussions on this type of thing. You are the guy who's okay with writing a guy's contract out.
And if they leave in free agency, they leave in free agency. I think the one thing I'd push back on what you said is me too. You are, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think, Grant, you said he'll have just as much value. Later.
Like this offseason. And I do not agree with that because if you are a top team, you would always want, hey, do you want a guy for a year and a half or for a year? Are you willing to give up more if you get a guy for a year and a half or a guy for a year? The answer is, of course, you'd give up more for a year and a half of a good player than for a year of a good player. I also think it's bad business.
And I think you would both agree. I don't think I'm, this isn't cutting edge here. I think it's bad business to make decisions one season based on the outcome of decisions that were made the previous year. An expression that would fit, that would be the tail wagging the dog, for example. Or something I brought up at my show on Monday: have you guys ever played Spoons?
You ever played Spoons? It was a fun game? Where you sit in a circle around the table, you have two cards in your hand, two or three cards in your hand, and you pass cards, and you have to discard one as one comes in. And then the goal is to get three of a kind. And then when you get three of a kind, you grab a spoon.
So like what will happen in games like that where cards are coming in and going out? Is you will get a nine, discard it, and then two more nines will come by. And you're like, shit, if only I had taken the first nine, then I would have three of a kind. But once the first two nines go by, you don't then grab the third nine. On account of, well, well, I let two buy, I better grab that.
No, no, no, what's done is done. What's gone is gone. Like I don't think the hater trade should be an indicator on what they should or shouldn't do. But I just, as a rule of principle, like if there's a question of whether we're buying or selling, just wait until the offseason. We do agree on that, that it should not inform.
this decision. But, you know, I think, Bart, you started your answer by talking about being better prepared to do like that type of trade this year because we learned how to deal with it last year. I think, of course, what matters more to that is has the locker room Learned. How to adjust to that.
Well, I think that sometimes during trades, like You assume the ownership is with you, and you assume your GM's with you, but you never get like. Just don't blindside the team. And I know sometimes things happen so fast and things leak out.
So I guess you can't go down there and be like, hey, you guys are playing pretty well. We are listening to Corbin deals. Can't do that. Right.
Well, I don't know what you do. Maybe you just don't trade them. Look, I think that yeah.
Well, I was just going to say, if, and I brought this up on my show and I tweeted about it, but if there's one piece on this roster that I actually think makes sense to sell, I think it's Wade Miley. Like, if I was a GM, look at it this way: if I was a GM on one of the other 29 teams, Wade Miley is the type of player I would look to add. Sure, but but if you're an opposing GM, I mean, you will give up. Maybe you're thirtieth ranked prospect for Wade Miley. Maybe if you're gonna see it.
The brewers should, if the brewers are looking to acquire anything in the deadline, I want relievers for the future. I just want pitching prospects because the bullpen is pretty barren. I know Pionce has been okay, and Pagera's actually been really good the last week or so. But, like, if I could trade Wade Miley. Knowing that Brandon Woodruff is coming back and get.
A reliever prospect to maybe pair with Devin Williams in a year or two and to give Craig Counsel another weapon at the end of games. Like, that might be worth exploring. Corbin Burns, I'm not doing in the middle of the season because that's just too much of a shake-up. Wade Miley's found money, as far as I'm concerned. He is, he is.
But yeah, just as long as we're. On the same page, that the package the brewers would get for burns compared to Miley is astronomical. What do you think they would realistically get? For Burns in the middle of the season versus in the offseason. I don't think it'd be that different.
Well, if you're a contending team trading for Burns, you're not going to deplete your major league roster to do so.
So you get the same bullshit you got from Hater. You would probably yeah, very yeah. Which is the problem with? Trying to sell. And contend now because the only teams that are interested in acquiring a piece like that midseason, and this was true of Hayter, is a team that's not interested in hurting their current chances.
So they're not going to give you major league help in return, which is why this mid-season. contend on the fly trades are so difficult and and should just be avoided.
So I would say I'm going to Brad. I'm sorry, my rhythm's off today. Oh. Come on now. I'm just my rhythm's off.
I'm not picking up your vocal cues. Yeah. I cut off Grant before. No, you didn't. Did you?
I did. I did. Well, you're the host. I mean, it's on YouTube. No, but I'm the host.
Speaking of host, I do have breaking host news. Ryan Seacrest is officially the next Pat Sayjack. Oh definitely. Mm-hmm. So he just he just he goes.
Hmm, Regis. You died? I'm you. Dick Clark, you died. I'm gonna be you too.
Pat Sajak, you're retiring. I'm taking your job over. Brian Dunkelman, get the fuck out of my way. It's the Ryan Secrets, the American Idol Show. Is this the equivalent of an ACK some?
He motherfucking took him over too.
Well, I don't know what. Prime Secrets, I got to craft this tweet. Mm-hmm. Oh fuck, I need to, I gotta do this right now. Was he still have his radio show?
See, Chris? Yeah. So growing up as a kid, people are always like. I had a VCR, I had a TV, I had a watch, I had a VI, and now I just have a phone. We used to have Dick Clark and Regis and Pat Sajak, and now we just have a Seacrest.
Interesting. Is this Like being put out to pasture. Like, hey, you've done all these youthful shows.
Now you're going to retire. You're going to age up into the category of wheel of fortune every night. The same way that, like, in local radio, if you work there forever, you're on the top 40, and at a certain point, you get moved over to the. Classic hit station. He's not giving up any of these jobs.
So he's doing it all. He does it all.
Well, he did give up. Kelly and Ripa or whatever the fuck. I always liked Kelly and Ripper. The thing I was gonna say about the brewers. Yeah.
Was I think they're good enough. To let them be and compete. But I don't think they're good enough to be buyers. Like all in kind of buyers. What's the goal of this season?
Well what is a realistic Achievable, successful benchmark that this team can hit. Where you will feel going in the next offseason, like we've taken a step. We're on the right track. I'm I think the team will will go farther next year than they did this year. I don't know.
I see, I was gonna say playoffs, but I don't know that I don't know that we're at a point where I just don't think a World Series is ever gonna happen. It is tough.
Well, here, here, I'll pivot that grant. Winning the division and losing in the opening round of the playoffs would be a successful season and give you hope for the future. No. Yes, okay. I Yeah.
Think that this brewers team is very similar to the Bucks at the end of the kid era. And I remember listening to Radio Joe on those post-game shows where he'd be like, Just get in, just be the eighth seed, guarantee yourself a playoff series, and get some of these guys' experience. Get Giannis' playoff experience, Chris, get playoff experience.
So as this team ages, they have something to build on. And I kind of feel the same way. About Weemer and Terang, if he's going to be up here, and some of these other guys. I don't think a championship is attainable this year. Like, they could play markedly better in the second half.
Like, William Damas could get hot, Tales could start hitting. And I still don't think they're a contending championship team. But I think there's a lot of value in simply getting in. Getting some run with these young guys, they know what the stage is like.
So, coming back next year, they kind of know what it takes and what waits for them in September and October. when they win and when they contend. You know? Yeah. I would just say my my answer to the original question of Brewers should trade burns but cannot.
is I do think they should. I like Brett and Tosa. I am concerned about the past 30 starts. I mean, a four-plus ERA over basically the sample size of a full season. If Burns still is getting Cy Young level worthy Trade value?
If that's the case, which we don't know, but like if another team would value Burns in a trade at his Cy Young value. You I mean, I would say you have to do that then.
However, I Mm-hmm. They cannot because they saw what happened last year. That's not good business practice. What happened last year shouldn't to such an extent? Like, we have this great Corbin Burns trade offer.
We want to do it, but. The hater thing backfired, so we can't.
So we're not going to. I don't like that. Idea. I think that would be a bad process, but I think that's probably what would happen.
So, what are we flipping, Corp? Like, can we get a team's You know, one of their best dozen prospects who looks like he could maybe be the first baseman of the future. Oh, oh, you could. I mean, you, I would say, like, again, because every Farm system is different. And like, maybe a team's best guy is the 50th overall.
Maybe a team's best guy is 10th overall in terms of MLB pipeline or something. But You said, did you say, like, could the brewers get a top? Like a team's top 10 guy, I think you can get like two top 100 overall type prospects. Like, I think you'd get. A prospect hall.
I maybe am not even thinking this. I feel like they could get the same thing in the offseason. I think you can get a similar payment. For burns? Yeah.
Um Birds it I like Bart, on your post-game the other night, you were like, Burns is costing himself money with every start. And I just don't know that that's true. I don't know. I just I don't I don't I think the firm's stock is Is plummeting the way everyone dramatically wants to say that it is. I kind of think it's fine and will be fine.
Oh, I think it's I think it's plummeted quite a lot. like but but again still to the point where If you're a team with fewer financial constraints. And you can more you can more take uh a risk in giving a What seems to be declining pitcher. And again, when you're the former Cy Young, there's nowhere to go but down.
So let's be clear on what declining means. That's another thing. And that's why baseball is so hard. If a guy has a great season, it's almost like it hurts him in the long run because we're always going to compare him to that, which is why Christian Yellich. Yeah, which is why eight to 10-year contracts, for the most part, suck and they're bad business, but they kind of become the norm for these superstar players who hit free agency.
If if Yelich never had those two incredible seasons, And this Miami yellich was just like... Who he is now and who he always was, it wouldn't be like, oh man, he's underperforming, because it would just be, oh, like, this is what he is.
So I have one one more. Brewer's trade that I did not prepare to give you guys, but Corey tweeted the three of us with A trade idea this morning. Look at you. I mean, this is, I'd be more insulted if I was Tony in Texas. Because not only are you going out of your way to compliment and credit everybody that you have taken topics from, but you still will not credit Tony in Texas for coming up with simple topics like: Do you think the Packers will be over 500 this year?
Should the Brewers, uh, you know, you know what I mean. I do know what you mean. Tony's like Tony could be in a restaurant and someone could go. Hey man, what's up? And Tony'd be like, I already asked him that.
You stole that from me. Tone bone. Tony got mad on my show the other day because the Bucs didn't make the John Collins trade. He's like. Horse has got to figure that shit out.
I don't care about the salary cap. That's a player they could, he's got a deal, he's got to make that work. And I'm like, Tony. Come on, I don't know. I got some frustrated at him.
I told him, stock down. This is a casual take by you. He didn't like that. We have Bucks. Stuff coming up here momentarily, but um, Corey asked us, Would the brewers have enough?
So it's based on a Ken Rosenthal. uh post from the athletic I'm talking about the Cardinals and trading Arenado and trading Gold Schmidt. And Corey asked us: Would the Brewers have enough prospects to get Arenado and/or Gold Schmidt while also keeping Churio? And Corey listed Freelick, Mizarowski, who was just named to the futures all-star game and is tearing up high A-ball with Appleton. Jefferson, I think it's Kiro, Kiro, the catcher who's become a top 100 prospect in baseball, Gosser, who the Brewers got in the hater trade, Uribe, Tyler Black, Ethan Small.
So you would give up All of your non-shurio Top 10 prospects, or a lot, several of your non-Shurio top 10 prospects. to go get a Gold Schmidt Arenado type of veteran bat. Right now. Not we're not not not mm-mm not the Cardinals. You do the Cardinals no.
There's no circumstance you trade with the Cardinals. Because It's the same reason you don't fuck your enemy's wife. You might think that you like. Look what we did. Look what we got.
Look what I did. But they're they're they're always in your life. Yeah. And they're always gotta be compared to. And there'll always be well, remember when he was a Yeah.
You do not. Like Colton Wong, he was always a bigger deal when he went back to Bush Stadium. Thank God he's gone. That was such that was shit. I liked Colton Wong.
Well, yeah, we all liked Colton Wong. I didn't like that it was basically. Like he was at summer Colton Wong, Colton Wong. Ah!
Okay. Do I do too many analogies? No, I love analogies. Please do this one. But I don't think I speak in any other way.
That's fine. Colton Wong. There we go. went to high school as a cardinal. And then the Brewers was his freshman year of college.
where he's running around telling everybody. Hey. I'm at college now, but... You know where I went to high school? I was a star quarterback at high school.
At my high school, my high school buddies, we do, and my high school buddies. And then he goes back to high school for a weekend. It's like, oh, Colton, we miss you. Oh, what's up? Hey, I'm facing Wainwright.
Can you believe this? This is fucked up. Oh, gotcha. I'm so glad that shit's over with. No Cardinal should ever be a brewer ever again.
We should have learned our lesson. Uh uh I I kinda consider it the soup-on theory. Oh, yeah. Grant, do you have a rational take on this trade idea?
Well, you would trade a lot of your several of your non-shurio prospects to get. In this case, again, because the Cardinals are so bad. Ken Rosenthal is talking about Arenado and Goldschmidt.
So, uh, you or so Bart hit the rival part of this, which is an important part. I will come at it from the other angle, I will just. get down to brass tacks. Gold Schmidt and Arenado are actually exactly what the brewers need. Right, because right now they have the pitching.
I think you just old bullpen help, but you always figure that shit out at the deadline if you're trying to contend. They have the pitching, they have the young bats, they have the outfielders, they have their catcher, they don't have their run-producing corner. Infielders.
So I'm like, well, on its face, that makes sense. Forget the Cardinals, make it the Blue Jays, make it whoever. Those pieces would go really nice with the Brewers. And then I started thinking, but do they fit the timeline? Right, do Weimer and Turing and Freelick and whoever else they bring up?
Are they going to match up with the timeline? And then in my head, I said, This is why sustaining success is a problem, is because I'm never 100% sure. On if it's the right time to address a need. Like, part of me is always like, we need that, but not yet. We have to wait.
But what about in two years? What if those guys might not be available? We might not be able to get those things.
So it's just. This is the problem with sustaining success. There's a lot of advantages. You're in it every year for the most part, and we're watching relevant baseball, and we always have good players, but. It's really hard.
To know when to add, when to buy, when to sell. That's shit's really hard. I would say you guys, the two of you came at it from different angles. I'll come at it from a third angle. Nice.
Which is. There you go. There you go. I am absolutely a person. I don't know that it's called a triangle because tri is the derivative of three.
Yes. It's got three angles. I have a follow-up relationship. And what I think is crazy about that's why they call it spelling, because words put a spell on you. Thanks, Aaron.
Finish what you were going to say, Paul, and then I have a follow-up to the triangle.
So I'm definitely a prospect for a follow-up to the triangle. I do.
There's a follow-up to the triangle, which will follow this comment.
So I'm a prospect guy. I will admit, and Bart, I think you and I talked about this with Chuck on your show years ago. Like the only person, I think the conclusion that we came to with Kestanhira at the time was the only player in baseball you trade Kestanhira for is Jake DeGrom. End of list when DeGrom was like, of course, five years younger and on top of the world. And that was the end of the list that we concluded, I think, that we would have traded Castanhera for as.
Like this, there's no way he's not going to hit at a high level for 12 years in the major leagues. That Keshan Hira. I definitely like to hoard the prospects. And though clearly the hero example is one is a reason why you sell high on a prospect, that's a great reason to do so. Which is why I won fantasy football this year in our league.
You did. Because you are prospect building. Yeah. yeah and i'm just like it i'm just gonna build the best team because i want to win And you and all your buddies are like. Prospects Arm Racing, and I'm kicking the shit out of you guys.
You did, you did.
Someone offered me Kelsey for a first round pick. I was like. Fuck do I care? It's Travis Kelsey. And I'll admit, I thought you overpaid.
And I... You know, um Okay. But I don't draft Travis Kelsey so I can take fucking. Who? I don't know.
But again, this is the two different. I mean, you did the right thing. You did the right thing in the league for sure. But even though there are examples that prove why you should not hoard your prospects, you should trade them with it. I still can't get there.
I saw Corey's tweet and I said, oh. Mm-mm. Like, I just, I just, I need, give me all my prospects. I need to see which ones pan out. Um, But so for me Even though it would close.
Clearly. Obviously, it be a benefit to this Brewers team this year and next year. But I guess, you know, I guess it's one of those like: if you're going to ride this out with Woodruff and then he's going to become a free agent and leave, and you're going to ride this out with Burns and Adamas for the next year and a half, and then they're going to leave. then you kind of have a year and a half. But like, let's just say you gave up all of your non Shurio top ten prospects and you got Gold Schmidt and Arenado.
Like let's just be ridiculous. You get both, but you lose your two through ten prospects are all gone. Right.
Like are the 2023 or 2024 brewers. A World Series legitimate. I don't think we're good enough to be buyers. Right.
So I think that's another reason, then, like, regardless of the Cardinals aspect that you brought up earlier. This is the most bite of the apple year ever. Yeah, granted. This team could slither in. And who knows?
The problem is when they had better teams than this, they still were on like. Like, if you're gonna be the slither-in bite of the apple. You do it when you have teams like this. They've had better teams than this. And then they sat on their dick at the deadline.
That's the problem. And they're not saying you got to go all in all the goddamn time. Manny Machado. Like that was 2018. I'll never forget that.
They sat on their fucking wean. Um I agree with you that they're not good enough to be buyers this year. It'd be like: this is the analogy. I'll use an analogy, Bart. Let me throw my hat in the ring.
It's like. Which is an analogy. Right.
Patty, if you this is what I said on my show. You're trying to make beef Wellington. Right, you need a lot of ingredients for beef wellington that's labor-intensive. I don't think I know how to make beef Wellington, so I'm curious here on two folds. Yeah, I do.
And then you went to the store. and you brought beef and you're like, all right, let's do it. It's like, well, no, no, you might. Don't even bother. Don't even bother buying one ingredient to make beef Wellington if you're not gonna buy them all.
The Brewers cannot have a contending offense. unless they find a first baseman, a third baseman, and a DH. Like they need three new bats. And that's why when people compare the Brewers, it's like, well, they could do what the Phillies did. or they could do what the Nationals did.
Go back and look at those. Batting orders go back and look at who was on those teams. Just because those teams underperformed in the first half didn't mean they didn't have elite hitters, like really good hitters. Like there were multiple guys on the Phillies last year who would have been the best hitter on the Brewers, hands down. They had maybe three or four guys.
You could say the Mets, White Sox, and Cardinals all have better lineups than our team. Much. I'm getting lightheaded. Is it? Is it?
You know what? I am too. Yeah, right now. Uh I was outside for an hour, not an hour, I was outside for like 30 minutes. I turned the fan off.
I turned the air conditioner off because I figured maybe it was blowing. And might be, it's just, I ate a small breakfast and drank a lot of coffee, but I. Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting light. I'm like I like getting hazy eyed.
Yeah. Well, anywho.
Okay. Nothing, Paul? I already told you how I'm struggling with this.
So now you guys are just playing catch up with me. I think so. You're stealing my diagnosis the way that I steal Tony and Texas' topics. Yeah. Is this like a Munchausen thing, though, where I think I feel something, but I don't?
Do you guys have you ever Thought you've actually had sympathy pains? Like, where someone you know is dealing with, and then all of a sudden you kind of like, has ever happened to you? It's happened to me. Like, for sure. I'll feel sad for someone around me and uncomfortable, but I'm not.
I'm not absorbing their pain. Not like literally, but I mean, like, where you're you can, cause you know, your brain is incredible, right? Like, someone's like, oh, like, my stomach hurts. You're like, oh, actually, shit, mine does too. I don't know.
No, when your wives have been pregnant, is that that's what I'm referring to. Like, yeah. That's yeah, we both had morning sickness for nine months because she would be pregnant and I would be fucking hammered all the time.
Well, did you have a triangle follow-up? Oh, yeah. Well, now the moment has just kind of come to pass.
Well, I just wanted to ask, and I know, Paul, you're a you know, you're a private person, but Bart and I, we went to school for communications. We were scholars of the written word and the presentation. Did you, like, did you go to School for like advanced calculus or some shit? Because, like, I feel like you probably did. I should have, but I was, in fact, a journalism and media communications major.
Me too. I was a political science minor. I was a sports broadcasting minor. I never took one class out. How is that a minor?
How is that a real thing? I did get 18 credits worth for a minor.
Okay. I think I took like a flag football class, and that somehow went towards it. That's I had the great Joe Heim all the time. Oh, really? Yeah, you see him breaking it down on channel eight.
I thought of you yesterday, Paul, because I was looking into the background of David Pope, because this is someone I've become very interested in. I really like his work, and I can't stop watching his features now. He went to school. For music and conducting.
So, before he got into science journalism, he liked to conduct music in New York and shit and like composed for years. And looking back, I always kind of wish that I'd. Would have gone to school for music at least a little bit. Because when am I? I'm never gonna have the opportunity to do that again.
And let's be real: like, I learned some good communication things that helped me at work, but. I don't know. I think it's yeah, I would say I learned much more. Doing internships and real-world experience than Like, yeah. Which is the problem with today's generation is they don't do all that stuff.
They get their major and they graduate and they think, you know. They're going to be handed a job. That's not how the real world works. You got to go, you learn on the job, you learn by doing. Nobody wants to do nobody wants to work these days.
Anyways. You know, I stick up for today's generation.
Okay. 'Cause They are like, they do get fucked.
Well, yeah, I'm never going to be able to buy a house or right. Things like that. And you used to be able to like, hey, work this $13 an hour job and you'll buy a house. Mm-hmm. Or you'll buy an apartment that then.
you know, then you can get a twenty hour then you can be a There's just no path for that anymore. Like I'm fucking. Trying to make money on YouTube. Because you like it can work. And these people are on TikTok because, like, it works.
So, you want me to go, and there's another, what I think about this a lot, too, is. I enjoy Watching The one thing that I liked about DoorDash. Was watching the money come in as it was coming in. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Like knowing I am here, and this is what I'm making. To get to say, all right, you make $13 an hour. and do an hour of work and be like, I made 13 for that. I don't know, it's different. It's not the same.
I like to be making. I can't just go work for somewhere for it. You got to tell me, you do this, you'll get $100.
Okay, not you do this, I'll give you $10 an hour for 10 bucks or 10 hour. Yeah. That's why I like playing gigs. It's like you do this for three hours, you get this much cash, and then I can see the money going into the tip jar. Like, it's very, I don't know.
My job is very. It's very hypothetical. You come in, you move some numbers around, you do this, you do that, and then every two weeks you get money.
So I'm with you, Bart. Speaking of numbers, when you put Bart in the search bar at omahastakes.com. Wow. You can get the gourmet grill pack for just. 99 99.
Now what's in there, you ask? What's in there? Or bacon wrap fillets. Four of them. Four premium air chill boneless chicken breast.
Did you just hear that? Is that your stomach? Did you hear it? Yeah. Holy fuck.
I see how hungry I am thinking of these. I was like looking at my phone. Like, I wasn't even dialed in. I, yeah. Look how hungry I am thinking of these four boneless pork chops.
The gourmet francs, and then they throw eight free burgers, and people like that with the Father's Day gift. This is for a limited time. Get it by uh... The end of this sentence. Type Bart in the search bar.
Just go to almoststakes.com, type Bart in the search bar, and deals will populate on you. Like never before. Um What else? Carl's place? What do you got?
Did you guys hear that story though? He goes. We're out of Carl's place. Carl's like, yeah, we got a lot of referrals from you. I'm like, oh shit.
He goes, yeah, but they're all like applicants for jobs. People are, people are. Looking for Jazz, and they don't hear Carl's play for the golf semi later. They're like, I could work there. That's funny.
Not because it actually never works. Your swing actually looks okay, by the way. The video you posted. You thought that swing was fine?
Well, I never golf. I haven't. I move my arm, I do move my wrist. It's just not smooth. I can't drive.
That's all I can do, Grant. I like the mid-range, where it's like the green is right there. He can't hit those clubs. And bounce it down. I like that.
If you could golf everything off a T, I'd probably be. Fucking Rory Speeth or you'd be making 400 million with live, is what you'd be doing if that were. Yeah, if I were to sold out like day one. Yeah. I have a Bucks topics for you.
Are you ready? I am ready. My wife just asked me what's my mom's Wi-Fi password and I fucking knew it off the top of my head. And it's one of those spectrum ones where it's like. Antelope bus 57 or some shit.
Oh boy. I did. What I thought you were going to say was what I was thinking: if she was working upstairs, she's like, Wait, aren't you recording your podcast right now? Why do I hear this Casio beat? Oh, no, she's not here today.
Thank God. Speaking of which, the thing I was going to contribute during that portion was to say, Considering we all sometimes share an algorithm. Uh like We see 10-year-old clips of Seinfeld on Stern on the same day somehow. I saw the clip recently, and maybe you did, of. That one gorillas song.
Bean A just a sample from a Keyboard. Yeah. The Clint Eastwood song is just like just straight out of a keyboard. They didn't even write the melody or the beat. Can I?
I hate to do this to you, Paul. Can I ask a two-minute question before we get to Bucks? Because I saw a video on my algorithm last night that I feel like you guys would have an opinion on. It was a guy, it was a TikTok of someone who took a bunch of screenshots from Seinfeld and the outfits that they had on. And it was like Jerry Seinfeld, Elaine, these fashion icons.
Like, look at these fits. And all the comments on the video were like, this is just how people dressed in the 90s. Like, this was everyday wear. Is that true, or were they really going that hard on that show? I know you guys have lots of opinions about the 90s.
Well, they always made George. They gave him one size too small.
Okay. That's a fact. And Jerry Yeah, I mean, that's how people dress. Kramer dressed like a Grammy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, with the exception, maybe a little bit. What? Like hipster, like before hipsters wore clothes like that. Maybe I don't know.
Hey, Kramer dressed pretty close to how my grandpa dressed. All right. It's just I never thought In seeing a Seinfeld clip or an episode, like, oh, they're dressed outlandishly. They are dressed uniquely. Like, no, I think that was just this guy was like, they are fashion.
They were pioneers. And all the comments were like, well, when he wore the pirate shirt, maybe. Of course, the puffy shirt. Yeah. Well, I don't wanna be a pirate.
Anyway, sorry, Paul. You were trying to know it's good. Um, I wonder how much of this, depending on when the listener is consuming this part. Free agency starts on Friday. Thursday night, or however that works, with the time zones.
So, hopefully, this is relevant. A little bit, so I'll try to make it as broad as I can considering it's free agency week, and a lot can change very quickly. Um Credit words due. I had a similar topic, but I shared a brain with Nathan Marzion for this one. We had a similar thought process, so I will share the credit there.
Um he asked What's the percent chance that you believe Chris and Brooke both resigned with the Bucs? What I was going to ask you guys was. And by the way, there's a lot, there's a lot of, I would say, so there's a Yahoo sports story came out Tuesday morning talking about. No one's really pursuing Chris Middleton because It just seems like a foregone conclusion that he's going to be back with the Bucs, but there's a lot of Brooke Lopez chatter. A lot of Brooke Lopez interest.
My question for you guys is: you are confident. That brook? And Chris. Are both Bucks next season. Mm-hmm.
Or mm-mm. So in order for the beat mm-hmm Both have to be be back. Bart is giving me a face that tells me he's not so sure. Bart, your NBA takes it. They fast me.
You seem to think that Draymond is on the outs. I don't think that will happen. I don't know. I think it could happen. You're Sir ShakeUp the last week or so.
Sir ShakeUp. With some of these takes that I'm hearing from you. I think 95% chance are both back. I'd give some wiggle room to Brooke, but I don't think he's going nowhere. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Confident. Like if you had to like you know, if I had to bet my Casio piano on it, I'd I'd say they're both coming back. Yeah. Where's Chris going to go?
I don't think Chris is well, Houston. If they don't, they let the people get changed. Especially Chris, but they've been here for many years. They know exactly what they're stepping into. New head coach might reinvigorate them a little bit, but they got the same drive to work.
I don't know, it's like Sometimes when these guys get older Like watch uh you know Rogers Roger's a goddamn tourist right now. Yeah. You're taken out of your ecosystem for 15 years. Yeah. I I don't know.
I've like would I want to move somewhere? Fuck no. Move to lacrosse. Oh my God, I would so fast I know. I'm with you.
Why would Chris want to go to Houston? Chris reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins in that. He's never really wanted to leave. It's never been up in the air, really. Who's going anywhere?
The understanding is: you're going to pay me what I could get on the open market. You're going to take care of me. There was like a train. Do you know how much I would go to lacrosse for lunch and then just come back? Isn't there an Amtrak?
Not like the Chicago one.
So, like your personal train. Like the pola train Scott killed. Yeah. Where would you just to eat lunch or just to be here? Yeah, at Lindy's.
There's like four other sandwich places I would go before Lindy's, but that's fine. That's fine. I was on a fucking hard Lindy's kick for a while, and I'd eat there by myself. Pickerman's clears. Pickerman's is too hotty-totty.
Okay, Paul, be right back. We're not on anything. It's fine. I'd go to Jimmy John's before I'd go to Lindy's. No offense to Lindy's.
Holy shit. I mean, I love JJ's, but. I'd go to Pickerman's first. Yeah. Pickerman's, you gotta like.
It's hard it's hard being a first timer in Pickerman's. True. It's like, what am I doing here? Where do I go? Yeah.
Lindy's is just. But Lindy's, I'm surprised Lindy's is open. That place was always dead as fuck. It's like in the parking garage. A lot of my coworkers go there.
I think a lot of people downtown go for lunch. We get a downtown. Discount card. If you work downtown or live downtown, you get a card in a lot of places, they'll give you a couple bucks off or something. But I'm a Pickerman's guy through and through.
I don't went to Dublin Square for lunch with a coworker the other day. Go to the breakfast club a lot with coworkers, salespeople. You know, they take me out, wine me, dine me. You're going to have to do some editing of this pod, and I'm sorry about that. Not right now.
Well, now you do.
Sorry. Alright, what I miss. You miss Grant and I having a nice talk about sandwiches, and then he goes, You got to cut this shit out. All right. So, yes, I think we're on the same page.
Confident that Brooke and Chris is back. But if the answer was, it'll be because Brooke leaves. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's where we're at.
Next one. A lot of Dylan Brooks to the Bucs. Chatter, I know Bart loves chatter, the word specifically. Buzz. Like the Grizzlies after losing to the Lakers And LeBron embarrassing Dylan Brooks in multiple ways.
Just like we, we're like, no one ever says of their starting shooting guard or small for whatever Dylan Brooks is, like, hey, he's not coming back under any circumstance. Like, that's a pretty damning unique situation. But Dylan Brooks' name keeps coming up in multiple different reports. You want Dylan Brooks on the Bucks.
Now, again, they have very minimal cap flexibility, so it would not be some exorbitant deal, right? Dylan Brooks, you want him on the Bucks. Or mm-mm. No, I do not want Dylan Brooks. Just because you don't want to cheer for Dylan Brooks.
Do we need a Dylan Brooks? I feel like Dylan Brooks gets in the way of whatever we're trying to do. Let me tell you this about Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks is one of these guys that I look from a fantasy standpoint. Uh Well He's because Dylan Brocks, yeah, they're easy.
Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks can get you all the intangibles. While also shooting two for 13. Sure.
So it's not like he's an intangible guy. that doesn't shoot much. He takes a lot of shots that he misses.
Well So I think he's a net negative.
So, so, like, I was going to do a maybe a PJ Tucker-type comparison, but you would say to the comparison. Dylan Brooks is a PJ Tucker was four for 17 every night while also being PJ Tucker. Let's just say what you're saying is that. Dylan Brooks doesn't accept being PJ Tucker because Dylan Brooks wants to take a lot of shots and thus the net negative is what you're saying. Yeah, playoffs 4 for 11, 3 for 15, 4 for 11, 3 for 13.
And then he didn't even do anything else. He four rebounds, five. He's no he's no he He fills up. He's, I don't want him under any scenario. I can't stress enough.
How disappointing. He will be as a player. I feel as strongly as I feel about anything that I've said. On this podcast. Dylan Brooks is a waste.
Of minutes. Follow that. Dylan Brooks, you want him on the bucks? Or? The PJ Tucker comparison is.
Apt in some ways, but also like PJ Tucker, he just wouldn't shoot. Right, like the negative of PJ Tucker was he was a non-contributor on offense. Dylan Brooks is a non-contributor, but he's Trying to contribute, which is no, he's not. He sucks. 30 minutes is average.
His average, he's 30 minutes. He's a field goal shooter. He's tough. He's That's what I say. Field goal percentage is 39.
Okay. Not his three-point, his field goal.
So he's five for 14 every game. He's got three, he's playing 30 minutes a game, getting you. Getting you 14 points, three boards, and two assists. That's garbage. That's like inviting someone to play with an NBA team.
Run with us for 30 minutes. You'll luck into some rebounds or whatever the fuck. Dylan Brooks, out. No way. Absolute no way.
There was a time. I've been not as smart on the MVF. I've had some wrong situations. This is my comeback tour. Yeah.
I'm just going to say. Also, I think the Warriors are going to be dog shit with Chris Paul if they keep him. Dylan Brooks did shoot 40% in the playoffs two years ago. And he shot 35% last year. Like, there is, there is 15 shots.
He's taking too many shots, too many wasted possessions. Look, I'm not saying that I want Dylan Brooks. I just, I think we've gone overboard a little bit with how much he sucks and all the things that we're saying about him. Like, at one point, he was. He was a very important Part of what the Grizzlies were doing.
And I don't think the culture and the weird attitude and all the issues the Grizzlies had last year, I don't think it was just on Dylan Brooks. They had a ton of injuries. And then John Morant, like, okay, he needs mental health. He likes fucking playing with guns. He just likes being a child and playing with guns.
Okay, so that's a big part of the culture issue. And then they stuck it all on Dylan Brooks. I don't want him, but if he wants to come play for free and he's like, hey, this is what I think I can add, and I want to restart my career here for your Tylen Brooks. Yeah. I mean, I'm furiously I'm against it.
All right. Do you have Bart, considering you're so vehement against it, is Dylan Brooks in your top three Of NBA players, no, no, let me take that again. Is Dylan Brooks in your top three of professional athletes that would be difficult for you to cheer for because they're on your team? No. Who's like, who's your top few?
Aaron Rodgers. He, I think, it's true. I think I didn't expect that, but that's fine. Chris Paul. I'm definitely a hard time with Mm.
Who do you got? I don't know. But like Grayson Allen probably Stop it. I don't like that he does both. He's taking away a job.
I'll stop it.
So just kidding. Grayson Allen was on a lot of people's and my. Oh, Dela Vidova was on mine. Delavadova was House. You live in Shorewood.
Yeah. Which is a. A suburb. It's not Milwaukee. Um I'm just trying to Poke your buttons now.
We're going to do a trifecta, a triangle of agreement, as it were. See, yeah, yeah, I like that. Please stay away. No. No, I no, stay away.
Two more quick ones. We don't have to spend a lot of time on them. I'll ask them actually in conjunction. Bucks are linked to Kevin Love. Bucks are linked to Derek Rose.
You would want the bucks. Again, we're talking, you know, scrap money, right? Find under the couch cushions money. You would want the Bucs to go after one of. Kevin Love or Derek Rose?
Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. Yeah. If they trade Bobby Portis, I'd take Kevin Love. Their skill sets are really redundant in what they add.
And I think Bobby's better. But if they have it in their mind that they need to trade Bobby, For future-oriented reasons and for cap reasons, then Kevin Love makes a lot of sense. Not both. I don't know what Derek Rose. I just.
He seems like the kind of guy to go to a team that's kind of middling. And they need some excitement. They need someone to. have a crazy good scoring out every once in a while. I'm not saying he's not a winning player.
You might be. I'd rather have Jabari Parker, honestly. No, there's too much. Yeah, the sons are working them out, so I brought him up, but are there like Young guys that we can look at. I mean, I'm all for, hey, Kevin Love, Derek Rose, what can they do?
Like, yeah, I'm all for that, but. Uh Is there like We already filled up that we already did the quota of old guys. We got enough. Yeah. Bart, how much did you talk about on your Show how much have you talked about this Rich Paul situation with the Bucs that he convinced like 25 teams in the second round not to draft his guy because he gave it a mention.
I mean, this is like... This is a, I mean, again, how good will the player be? I don't know. How will the player ever contribute to the Bucs? I don't know.
But kudos to John Horse, man, for like pulling that off. John Horse gets a lot of shit online from people that think he's got no clout. He's got no poll with other executives, and the only way he can trade back in is if he calls his. Old boss.
Well, again though, like They had the 58th pick. And this player would, like, I don't know who I know very little about, like, would have been an early second-round pick, reportedly. And they pulled the uh like the old NBA 2K mind trick thing where they're like No one can draft him except for us. And Rich Paul, a very powerful agent. Convinced all the other teams of that.
I thought that was a really big deal.
So I would much rather give Bochamp, the two new rookies, Drew Timmy. Give me some Drew Timmy action. I'm not a college basketball guy. For me to know who a college basketball player is means. That he so I'm like, oh, Drew Timmy.
And by the way, he's just a Summer League invite. He's not even a. Two-way guy, but uh Yeah. I think if there was a Bobby Porter's trade. you would want Kevin Love.
Like to be there. Maybe he doesn't play. Like at all, ever. But but he's it's a cheap Consistent insurance policy. Is he coming to Madison?
I saw Bobby is, as long as he's not trained first. Yeah. Hopefully, the air quality has improved before Bobby makes his way to. FC Madison. I hope so.
Dude, I'm lightheaded sitting here. Me too. Not good.
Okay, so while we were talking. I got a text. From A buddy. This is the last thing. This is the last thing.
Yep. Granted has real work to do. It's Brian Windhorst being quoted. It's Brian Windhorse being quoted. Saying Windhorse, this is Windhorse.
I have some speculation. There's a couple of outlandish stuff that I'm not going to say right now because I'd get in trouble. I wish I could tell you more, and I shouldn't, and I know I shouldn't tease you. This is about the calves. To which someone then quote-tweeted, and this was what was sent to me: manifesting a Drew Holiday-Darius Garland deal, which we talked about a couple of weeks ago.
Any reason to get optimistic that there's a Jake Fisher on the writer show? Oh, did today? Monday. Yesterday. Give me some highlights.
He said something to the extent of like. Like, I'd agree. I'd like if we know there's stuff going on. That these guys know. That they aren't saying yet.
Well, it's the power of aggregators. Like, none of these guys want to be aggregated. Like, so they just don't say. They just hold it because they want to be the ones to eventually write it and not just have it be. Oh wow.
But I am also led to believe we might see some shit go down. There's definitely a lot of smoke in silly season, being that a lot of the conversations that are Happening right now aren't necessarily legal, right? You know. Two represents and teams having Under the table, you know, talks about stuff that's coming up.
So That's why it's kinda difficult to piece together some of this stuff and some of the reporting you can't even really say Everything you know because some of the stuff's illegal.
So, this is my question: whether it be the Darius Garland trade that we're trying to manifest, I would want to manifest. Uh You're thinking that there's a Drew Holiday trade coming? Mm-hmm. Or if you were to read the tea leaves and read the reporting and. There's a Drew Holiday trade.
I'm 100 bucks related. No, I know. I know that. I still think they stay pat with their four. Grant.
I I kinda think they do stay pat. and stand pat with their core four. Bye. I also think this is very different than last offseason. Like, I think they are exploring everything and they're.
They're not afraid to do something. Like last year, Middleton got hurt. We're going to run it back. Hope that we're healthy. Hope it goes differently.
I don't think they're taking the same approach this year.
Well, and John Horse sorry, Troy to cut you up, but John Horse said as much when they made their draft picks, who were not the type of guys that they would have typically drafted under Mike Budenholzer. They are steering in a different direction with the type of player. And That leads me to believe that they're not going to stand, Pat, and maybe they're not going to stand. Pat Conaton anymore, either. He could be out the door.
Sorry, that was just a plan word. I had to try. Nice. I do have two. Like trades here.
I'm going to read them to you in the same way. Again, these are not my trades. Matt, you can leave now. What's that? Matt hates your trades.
No, I know he does, but these are not my trades. None of them have been. But I'm going to read them both to you. They're both Bucks clippers. And um I don't know if you can hear that.
They're both bucks and clippers.
So, mm-hmm. Or that you would take one of these, and then, if so, which one? Drew Holiday and Grayson Allen for Paul George. Yes. Or Drew Holiday and Grayson Allen.
For a bunch of role players: Norman Powell, Robert Covington, Terrence Mann, Bones Highland, Paul George. Grant. We have Norman Powell, Bones, Highland, Terrence, man. We have them at home. We have Terrence, Terrence Ross.
We have a bunch of role players. Get Paul George. Grant? Or you can also say neither you can say nothing. You can say neither.
Then you could do my theory where you play Middleton on home games, Paul George on Roan games, and then they finally play together in the playoff for the first time. I was gonna say. Chris Middleton and Paul George, there's some redundancies there. Paul George is a better defender, but he's also older, and they both also get hurt. Every year that's near.
Yeah. I think you would Kind of like you know With the assumption that you're in a meaningful playoff game, you're probably only having one of Middleton or Paul George healthy.
So at least you have, like, even if you have the redundancy, it's like, how often will they really both be healthy in June or May or whatever? Um Grant, so what was your final answer? Then you could neither of those trades, the Paul George one or like the role player one? Probably neither because I value Drew Holly. I feel like we're under.
Rating Drew Holiday a little bit this offseason after some bad playoff games.
So I'd probably say neither, but I'd much prefer Paul George to the role players. But I would just say we might be undervaluing. Drew Holiday. But if you can get Paul George for Drew Holiday and Grayson Allen to match salaries. That's a Pretty darn good value, and for what it's worth, Paul George is very much on the trade block, like they're not going to trade him for nothing, but um.
They should trade why they're trading the wrong one. IMO.
Well, yeah, I mean, neither guy is dependable in the playoffs for being available, obviously. Bart, I'm with you. Paul George, yes, I would do that. There is redundancy with Chris. But you should do that.
All right, that's what I got. Love from the department of redundancy. That's exactly what I was going to say. I don't cry when my dog runs away. I don't get angry at the bills I have to pay.
I don't get angry when my mom smokes pot. You know, the song Bart goes right to the rock. My parents didn't let me listen to songs about weed. Yeah. You you di you listen to Sublime though, no?
You weren't a kid when that song came. You were a kid when that song came out. Yeah, we were like the perfect age for Sublime. I don't know. I'm like a weirdo.
Crystal ball But If you you couldn't just like sublime, like I couldn't just like I had to quietly like Dave. Yeah. You are so concerned about the perception of no, because in Fond du Lac, if you'd like Dave, you also wore tie-dyes and hemp necklaces, drug rugs. Yeah, but you know what though? I was listening to Slipknot.
That's for Dave. I was listening to Slipknot. like on the tennis team. And everyone else who listened to Slipknot in High School was wearing like You know, all black everything. I bought a Weezer record in sixth grade and got made fun of by my friends because they were wearing shirts that said Pink Floyd, the Doors, Led Zeppelin.
Your friends were cool.
Sounds like. I was listening. I was fucking turning on WXX, listening to Crash Test Dummies. Hootie and the blowfish. Your friends are bullshit, most likely, probably.
No, they all older brothers and sisters and I was first out of the litter. Ah. I was oldest as well in my craving my own path. Never like or dislike something as a result of, like, don't do that. Like, just like what you like.
And if it's weird, it's weird. And yeah. It's okay. Boys, I love you and see you later. I might pass out.
I I do not feel well. Go drink some water. I'll drink some water. Is that safe? What's up?
Go get some fresh air. No, some people don't get, no, do not get fresh air. All right, gentlemen, this is fun. Let's do it again. Bye-bye.
Mm-hmm.
