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Good morning, everybody. My name is Bart Winkler. And this. The Bart Winkler. Show Brewers beating the Mets on Wednesday night, so they'll at least split the series.
Against the Mets uh 15 and a third now innings scoreless. For the Brewer's bowl pen. Hi Ams gets in there, gets a hold. Doguero gets in there. Hobie Milner gets in there.
Devin Williams with a pretty quick and easy. Save.
Now Wade Miley. Decent outing. Did get lifted after 74 pitches. That fourth inning took a lot out of them, but the Brewers were able to tack on some runs right away. Mets clawed back and then the Brewers big eighth inning.
Couple of runs. on an RBI single up the middle. from Christian Yellich. I don't think the question anymore is: is Yelich back? I think the question is.
When did you realize? Christian Yelich. was back. But a big win for the Brewers on a week again where The Mets are getting A lot of attention. And the brewers are just kind of like an afterthought.
In that story, the Mets are his Like, not historically bad, but Hilariously bad. I should sort of finish the word I was trying to say. Uh it's bad. It's bad for the Mets. It's bad for the New York Mets.
They are Seven, nine, eight, there are a few games under 500. And the owner, Steve Cohen, who everybody was praising for how much money he was spending. Said, I'm gonna answer all questions, and then he had a 30-minute press conference. on Wednesday that really could have been an email. He didn't say anything more than what he said the other day.
I take full responsibility. Gave a vote of confidence to Buck Showalter, the manager who Mets fans want fired. He will finish the season, it looks like. He did not finish the game. On Wednesday night.
He got ejected. I didn't like the uh weemer. situation there was a pitch that hit him he swung they Let him have the base.
So Brewers win 5-2. Things are moving along pretty steadily. for the crew. They are You know, anytime you think, like, okay, they lose, could they teeter? This makes me think of Tim Allen.
Who he would always say It's important to just stop losing streaks. You know, if you lose a game, it's important to win to stop a losing streak. If you lose two games, it's important to win to stop it from being a three-game losing streak. And that makes sense, I think, with this Brewers team. I don't know how good they are.
We've talked about that. They're certainly not a bad baseball team, and they're certainly not an underachieving team.
Now, is the lineup for the Mets maybe better? Is the lineup for the White Sox maybe better? Is the lineup for the. The Cardinals may be better than the Brewers. Maybe.
But the brewers are getting contributions out of some of these guys. Winker, who's hitting for shit. Had a big hit last night. You had Bryce Perkins deliver, you had Anderson deliver. Two outs, he had yellich deliver.
So the guy is at least. Are delivering rowdy? I think might be a lost cause. They are, that's a problem. I don't know what they're going to do with him.
All for four. with three K's, but the Brewers will have the Mets again another night game. No day games in the series.
So another night game on Thursday night. Against the Mets. And then you will have the series against the pirates coming up. And then the Cubs come to town, and then the Reds, and then the All-Star break.
So we'll know. A few things regarding where they stand. At that point, on today's show, we've got some voicemails, brewers specific. We'll get to those thanks to Carl's place. Ryan Horbot will be here for some AFC over-unders.
We talked to NFC last week, we'll do AFC today, and then I will at the end put on an interview I did on Writer Than You. With R.J. Anderson, CBS sports baseball writer. But there's some good baseball stuff in there. We don't talk Brewers, but we talk a little bit about the College World Series.
You might actually see some of these guys drafted.
So you might actually watch an MLB draft and know who some of the guys are. You.
So that that's rare. We're also going to talk just a little bit about Shohei Otani.
So I don't know. I thought it was a good baseball conversation. And if you're interested, it'll be on the end. Of the podcast here for you today. I am still in for Bill Ryder the rest of the week.
I'm in for Bill Ryder on CBS Sports Radio Thursday, Friday. Then I do my Sunday show. Then I'm in Monday, Tuesday.
So I'm working through the holiday. Then on Wednesday, On Wednesday, I'm doing the DA show. But like everybody's off.
So I'm basically I'm doing a morning show for four hours by myself. And Central Time, it's 5 a.m.
So Uh I haven't been up that early since. And I'll be on the DA show. At 5 a.m. On Wednesday. I'm already thinking about it.
It's a week out. I'm already thinking about it. I'm already nervous. that I'm not going to get up. I'm nervous about how that's going to work.
I'm just nervous. about the whole thing, but uh Yeah, we'll see. That sucks. I mean, I forgot. I used to get up every day.
Well 520 and then But even that, I got to get up in the fours. Good. Already thinking about that. You know, I think about a lot is Happy Place Hemp and the gummies that you can get there, and how they slash prices across the board, and how the promo code still takes 25% off of that.
So they are able to, because of the amount of orders they're getting, and because of how much you guys are using them, which again is great. They are able to Lower their cost in terms of what it costs to make the product. And instead of, you know. Just lining their underwear with twenty dollar bills. they are deciding to pass the savings on to you.
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So, just a bunch of savings all the way around. Let's do some voicemails. Got a couple. These are brewers-related earlier in the week, but still, I think very usable. 402-915-BART.
This one is from Dan. And here's Dan dealing with Some of the smoke that we saw in our area, I think it's all cleared. Could you imagine if that smoke? was During the Fourth of July, like the fireworks. Oh my God.
People would be pissed. One thing you realize is people take that 4th of July thing seriously, and they're not letting them camp out overnight, which is smart. But people, man, you see, you're gonna start, you can drive around there today, you probably see blankets. for fireworks, for a forty-five minute show. Let's watch it on Fox 6.
Look out the window. Here's Dan. Hey, Barton. Dan from Elk Creek. Glad to be calling in on the Carlos Place voicemail.
Driving home right now, Tuesday, on a Tuesday afternoon. It's crazy with this whole Canadian wildfires blowing in in the Milwaukee. I can't breathe at all. Holy shit. Anyways, oh my, sorry, bro.
Hey, I think Christian Ellis is an all-star. I know you've been talking about it recently the past couple of episodes, but I know you're kind of on the fence right now. But I mean, even just watching the highlights, I'm not watching the games so nice and missing them. But, anyways, like, I'm seeing the highlights the next day. He's getting on base.
He's getting on base. I know it's not what he's living up to with his contract and all that, but I think he needs to be an all-star this year. I don't see why he wouldn't be. Also, Corbin Burns. You've been talking about him lately too.
Yeah, he's been kind of off. Hopefully, he picks it back up after the all-star break. Maybe he must needs a break. He's obviously not going to be an all-star this year, which is probably good for him. He needs that mental break.
I was at that Diamondbacks team where he gave up six in the first inning. He did settle down, but still six in the first. Granted, it was a Diamondbacks team that's honestly one of the best in the league. But we rely on him. And, you know, I was thinking actually today, maybe the Brewers do buy before the deadline.
Maybe get another pitcher. I know they got Teyron so great. Gray was great last night. The 2-1 victory. And of course, as you said, Wade Miley's been great.
He should have never left the Zoom. The brewers after 2018. You could have had a great couple years these past years with the brewers, I feel like. But anyway, maybe we go get more pitching. I don't know what we give up.
I don't know if they give up like self-reliant. That would actually be detrimental, actually, I feel like. But, you know, get somebody. I don't know who, but I don't know what your thoughts are. Would love to hear them.
I would also love to hear Tim Shea. I know it's been a week or so since he's been on. I want to hear his thoughts on the brewers right now. Hopefully, he's doing well. Tim, if you're listening, or if you're on the show as you're playing this part, yeah, hope you're doing well with Fourth Barton.
Tim, if you're on right now, hopefully, you're doing well as well. If you haven't been to the bars lately, Tim, we gotta see you at the bars on the YouTube stream. Yeah, Tim. Uh Tim working this morning shift. I thought I'd still See him a little bit, but He called me the other day just to check in.
I didn't know who it was. And I picked up and he said, hey, you remember me? I didn't Um So I have to Get in touch with Tim again. The guy's busting his ass, man.
Somebody's got to do it. I mean, you wake up and you turn on that. Eight o'clock news on WMLW, somebody had to go send a reporter to get that footage. And that's Tim Shea. One of Milwaukee's heroes?
People are saying. Carl's place voicemail line. Check out carl of et.com backslash Bart. They've got all the golf simulators that you could ever design. Desire, I'll have some videos on that.
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Some of the equipment that they have there, like I did share a video of my swing. I didn't like like my club.
Somehow when I swing my club Good like I like turn my club. I'm like twirling my club as I'm shooting. You know, the golf twirl. I suck. Carl of VT.com backslash.
Bart. Get to another voicemail here in a second. I will also be at SummerFest. Thursday and Friday of this week, Thursday and Friday of next week with Milwaukee Pro Soccer. I'll be handing out some merch, playing some beanio game.
Uh just kind of street teaming it up. For my squad.
So I'm looking forward to doing that. I'd like to be a part of that. Uh I am kind of stationed by other radio stations.
So I wonder if You know, there'll be some awkward interactions for sure. I just wonder. I just wonder what they will be. I wonder if there will be a locked eyed and then no engagement. I had that with Zabe once.
At the deer district, we get a locked eyes and then no engagement. Um We'll see. I have interacted with some other people. But I don't know. I don't know.
I think it might be weird. And there'll always be another, you know, you'll see, you know, a summer fest, you'll see. people even thought of in 15 years when you go down there.
So we'll see. At least I'll be safe where I know I'll be safe and I'll never run into anybody. that I would have uh alienated is When I go to, we're gonna be at Harley Fest. If there's one place on this world, I'll be safe. From anyone I've ever shit on.
It will be Harley Fest. Here is Bucky Boyd. Bart, Hocky Boyd here. Just checking in, I wanted to discuss a brewer's topic. I wanted to harken back to a comment of yours, I believe, from maybe last week's pod or a week prior.
And you were kind of discussing the idea of Willie Adamith being the most overrated brewer since we signed him. And I completely agree. You know, I love Willie. He's definitely injected good energy into the team, but his production has not been what we needed to kind of take this team over the top. And to a degree, I sort of blame his slump at the end of 2021 when, you know, we won the division, but we finished the season really poorly offensively.
And going into that Braves series, you know, I kind of. Blame his lack of production and kind of lack of energy that kind of permeated the lineup. And I don't think they've been in the same franchise since that brave series. I think the brave kind of broke us, and not only that, it was a combination of the Willie signing just not really transpiring the way that it should have. And, you know, I really think, you know, with the young up-and-comers and promising youth that we have in our farm system, I can't wait to turn the page because there's definitely been shades of what the brewers can be in the next five years, especially this season.
But, you know, with prospects like Freelick and Curio kind of, you know, waiting in the wings, I'm looking forward to turning the next page. I think the Willie signing was sort of a microcosm of the end of the brewers' 20 teens, early. 2020s era, and I think we should move on. You know, we are ultimately going to move on, but you know, the brewers really need a reset, and I do like what we have waiting in the wings. But yeah, I completely agree with you.
Willie's been the most overrated brewer by far.
So, love the pot, keep up the good work. I know it's tough talking about the brewers, but you know, the brewers are overperforming, and I'm looking forward to how they do going into the summer. Take care, peace and love. Peace and love, peace and love. And to go back with Dan's point on Yellich.
You know, since we discussed about Yelich being an all-star, I think he has got a hit in every game. Except for Tuesday night. where he had two at bats, uh did walk twice.
So he still got on base, scored a run. Otherwise, he has been uh playing very well. And again, we're calling this Marlins Yellich. This is an MVP ellich. This is Marlin's Yellich, and I think forgetting Marlin's Yellich back.
I mean, it's made a big difference. Imagine. Yeah, I still don't know if he's an all-star. Very easy to close. But imagine if Yellich was bad yellage.
on this team right now. I mean, they would be really shitty. And they'd be probably losing a few of these games that they won.
So I don't know if that counts in his war, or I know that doesn't, but you know what I'm saying? Yellich is a big part of this. This month again, 315 batting average in the month of June, OBP of 419. OPS 913. I mean, he's been very good.
So if you want to, if you're going to. If you're going to say Yelich is an all-star, and this is the claim you want to make, and this is the hill you want to die on. It's a worthy argument. And you may actually be right. And I may just need to look at the numbers a little bit more.
I mean, go find my made-up stat from last week and. And check it out. We will do some over-unders with Ryan Horvat today on this episode. Tomorrow, Kevin Holden. Of CBS 58, he went to the little league, not the little league, he went to the college World Series, had a hell of a time.
Talk to him about that and some of the other adventures that he's been on regarding baseball. That'll be on Friday's show.
Next week with the holiday. I'm not going to I'm not gonna I'm taking like a soft break. I'm not going to have shows on Monday or Tuesday. Like next week, shows aren't going to publish at 5. I'm going to probably throw a out of cutting room floor episode out.
with some bits that we cut. I'll probably throw one of those out. And then If the bucks do something. I I'll go live as soon as assuming I can and we'll make a show out of that.
Next week is like next, I'm basically off, but I don't want, I don't like. Still check, you know, still still still check to see. But Next week's kind of going to be like a like a little off week. And then uh and then we'll pick it up again.
So, just with some holiday time and with the SummerFest stuff I'm doing, and with the CBS stuff I'm doing. I thought that made sense.
So that's what we'll do. And it's a good time to. I don't know if you guys ever heard of the interview I did with Clay Thompson. But it's a good opportunity to go back and listen to some of that stuff. The following will also be on YouTube, the Dan Shaney YouTube stream, danshaney.com, S-C-H-A-I-N.
I S-C-H-A-I. No, I said it wrong. Jesus. S C H A N I. Danshaney.com, that beautiful website.
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Ryan Horvat. What are we talking today? We're going to do AFC over under win totals. Yeah. You know, it's it's summer.
I get to talk about my team then. Your team, the Jacksonville Jaguars? They're one of my teams, actually, yes.
Well, let's start with the AFC South then. We did this for the NFC. And uh, we're gonna do it for the AFC because. Not this isn't just like a kill time exercise. This is something we would kill time with if we were doing a four hour show, but I really just want to talk over under wind totals and just talk some goddamn football.
Yeah, some pig skin. All right, so let's start with the Jaguars. I do have 10 to win 175 on Trevor Lawrence, MVP. He's my guy. Nice.
That's all I've got so far. Um But they're nine and a half wins. I feel like people are going to think there's going to be a little regression, but then also there's not. I might think that a 10-win season for Jacksonville is more than doable. That division, as we know, is bad.
Houston with a rookie quarterback. Tennessee, maybe. Indiana for sure. I mean, it's just a bunch of rookie quarterbacks against Trevor. Give me the over on Jacksonville.
Yeah, I bet the over immediately on Jacksonville. I know they're going to be like a hype team, and if Trevor Lawrence gets hurt, they're probably screwed. But I think they're going to be even better, man, because, like, the first eight weeks of the season, Trevor Lawrence still kind of stunk. You know, he still had that like Urban Meyer stench. And then the last eight weeks of the season, he was the best quarterback in the AFC.
He only threw two picks. The final eight games. And I know he threw the four in the first half of that playoff game, but then he came back and won. He kind of reminds me a little bit of Andrew Luck, and I just feel like. They're gonna be better.
Like, they have Calvin Ridley now. All the dudes that they signed that everybody ripped kind of actually worked out. Like, Christian Kirk had one of his best years. Zay Jones was really good. Ingram was pretty good.
I think a good bet to make is Trevor Lawrence to lead the league in passing yards. It's plus 1,200 over at Bet MGM right now. They just released that market a couple of days ago. I really like that just because I love ETN, but man, even ETN's a pass catcher. Like he could catch 60, 70 balls out of the backfield.
You had now Kelvin Ridley, like I said. And then on the defensive side of the ball, they should be better because they drafted all those young guys. You know, Walker was a rookie. I would have picked Hutchinson personally with the number one overall pick, but I'm pretty excited about Jacksonville. I like Doug Peterson.
I like Trevor Lawrence. And like you said, man, that division stinks. Houston, I think they're heading in the right direction, but they're a couple years away. Yeah, I mean, Indianapolis, I think the same thing. You know, I think that they're probably a couple years away as well.
What happened to James Robinson?
So, yeah, man. Like, I mean, that was. He was their guy, and then they had ETN, and he's like, wait, what the fuck? I'm the guy. And then he goes to New England, and New England just cut his ass.
So he got hurt.
Sometimes guys just don't come back the same dude, you know? And Mm-hmm. They didn't like him there. I mean, that's also Belichick in the Patriots. That doesn't mean his career is over.
But yeah, he completely. What was crazy, man, is like he was undrafted, and I think he set the rookie rushing yards for undrafted rookie or something like that. Had over like 1,200 yards. Then they drafted ETN. He got hurt, and it was over after that.
Well, that sucks. I liked him. Me too. And I had him in a dynasty league. I like Etienne a lot, though.
You know who I'm hanging on to in a dynasty league is fucking Michael Thomas's dead ass. I would get rid of him right now. Doesn't he have like a steel plate in his foot again? Last time that sort of touchdown was like before COVID. The other thing is, Chris Olave might be the best receiver in the league next year.
Like, everybody talks about Garrett Wilson. He is awesome, and he's got Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Garrett Wilson will still be better. I don't know if I could buy a Derek Carr pipe, man.
We tried to do that last year with Devontae Adams, and he's still stuck.
Well, now Derek Carter said he didn't give his all. Hey, no shit. Who admits that? Everyone knows that. The rest of the division is bad.
Who does Vegas have to take The next highest win total. They've got the Titans at seven and a half. Under I bet under. And what planet are the Titans good this year? It can't be, man.
If the Titans win eight games. Shit, if they win seven games, Mike Brable should be coach of the year. That defense freaking stinks. Pannehill is. Older, and he's not.
Mike Brabel's probably, it's probably the biggest gap between coaching ability and talent that he's getting. Yeah, exactly, man. Mike Ravel's being asked to do more than any other coach because his team sucks. Yeah, and the defense stinks now. I mean, I thought they were trying to trade Derrick Henry.
Then they probably realized they're not going to get anything for him because they've ran him into the ground the last three years. He's all they have. He'll probably still rush for 1,200 yards if he's healthy. Don't really like any of the wide receivers. Don't like Tannehill.
Don't really like anything about the Titans, to be honest with you. That's a pass for me. I'd go under on them. Yeah, I gotta go under on them too, on account of what you said and also they suck. Yeah.
Colts at six and a half. Um I mean, this division is so bad. And you know what? I'll throw in the Texans here, too. They're also six and a half.
I think of the two teams. God, I d I mean, I don't know that it Did they win six and a half combined?
So I would still go under on the Texans, even though I like Ryans. I obviously like Stroud will be good, and I think Richardson will be good, but I just. Unless one of these teams like Does what the Jaguars did last year, just has everything clicking and rolling.
So. I would go over on it. I mean, I'm not going to. The only thing I bet in this division right now is Jags. And I'm kind of with you on the Trevor Lawrence MVP love.
And I'm kind of, I like that passing yards prop. I think I'm going to play that as well. Put it I would uh I would probably actually lean over. I'd lean under on the Texans again. I think I'd probably go over maybe next year.
I want to see what Stroud looks like. I think he's. Serviceable right now, but I don't think he's going to win you games. You know what I mean? And I don't know how good that defense is going to be.
Ryan's will probably turn that thing around pretty soon. But I would probably lean over on the Colts. What I need to see, though, man, is like their defense, the defense from two years ago when they had a real defense. You know what I mean? Because if they have a top 10 defense.
And Jonathan Taylor stays healthy. I think Anthony Richardson's a project, and there's a whole side of the field that he just doesn't see right now. Like, if you go back and you watch his tape, even at Florida. But we know he's going to be able to run the ball and he's going to be super athletic. And if Jonathan Taylor stays healthy, You know and You know, they're able to put in a kind of like a Jalen Hurts type offense.
I could see them winning like seven, eight games. If they're able to run the ball and they have a solid defense, they could take the football away.
So I'd probably lean over on the Colts, under on everybody else in that division, except for the Jags. Like the AFC is loaded. Maybe these teams like beat each other, but who else are they beating? You know what I mean? Think about this, like Aaron Rodgers, Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes.
Russell Wilson, if he's back to being himself. Um, Josh Allen, you know, like one of these guys isn't going to make the playoffs.
So it's hard to say, like, you know, CJ Stroud and Ryan Tannehill are winning eight games this year.
So I'm going under on pretty much all these teams. But I think the Colts have the highest upside, and then I'm all about the Jags this year.
Well, just looking at the Colts schedule. Um Like, who would they play the NFC South?
So, I remember I was shitting on the NFC South. Can you get seven wins out of Jacksonville, Houston, Baltimore, the Rams, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Cleveland, New Orleans, Carolina, New England, Tampa, Tennessee, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Vegas, and Houston. I think you can. I mean, Tennessee and Vegas are winnable games. I don't know.
That's a Colts over. I'll take the Texans under. I'm going to take the Colts over. Wow. I just can't tie my money up into that market for the next couple of months.
It has to be something that I love because I have so much. College football, you know, I love Calix football win totals like in the NFL. Man, I got like 10 in the NFL though, so I don't know what I'm talking about. But y not in this division. That's too tough to call.
We'll do college another time.
Well, I'm going to get all the meat off of the horbot bone. Good. The NFC is what we already did.
So I'm correcting myself. We can go to the AFC East and we can go to your boys, the Jets. I got to think that you've taken the over. Whatever this is. Oh, is this your team?
Nine and a half wins for the Jets. Again, with the Jets, their first six is very hard. Their last six is very easy. I bet the Jets when they were freaking 22 to 1 to win the Super Bowl, that went all the way down to 12 to 1. I'm all about the Jets this year at that price.
I wouldn't bet on plus 1,200. I would go over the win total. I think Rodgers is going to have a monster year. I think Rodgers is probably Boomer Isaacin said the other day he thinks he's going to break the passing touchdown record. I'm kind of there too.
I think Rodgers does. Yeah, I think Rodgers is going to thrill.
Well, as long as the games don't Like Like conflict with RFK Jr. Uh campaign stops. Is that Bakhtiari or is that Rogers, though? Rogers on his Instagram, too. I don't even really pay attention.
All these guys, why does everybody want to see a fucking debate between scientists and not scientists? I don't even pay attention, to be honest with you. Oh, I can't not. But uh Like the other thing man is like Brees Hall is probably not going to be healthy to start the year, even if he does start the year. You know what I mean?
So I think Rodgers is going to throw like 60 touchdown passes. How do you not root?
Well, you hate Rodgers. I was going to say, how are the Jets not your side piece team this year, though? Like Randall Cobb, Alan Lazard, Adrian Amos. Like, I love these guys. Yeah, I want them all to do badly.
Man, you're Dick. I want them to play the Packers in the Super Bowl. I'm not just rooting against. Rogers. I'm rooting against.
Yes, I am rooting for those guys to be bad. I don't want them to be good. No, I do. I'm rooting for Jordan Love and the Packers, but I'm rooting for the Jets, too. And that's allowed when they went.
After 17, 18 years, I didn't have a problem with the Boston guys that love Tom Brady. He's years. Rogers is mine, he's ours. I mean, not yours. Yeah, but were they rooting for Tampa to win the Super Bowl?
They probably were because they're weird. I'm not like I'm rooting for the Packers to win the Super Bowl. Like, if they fucking come out guns blazing. But were the Boston, the Patriots fans the last few years, when they were out and Brady's in the Super Bowl, did they root for Brady? Like, how do I go into a season now that Aaron Rodgers is gone with any expectations when that Dingleberry Joe Berry is still the defensive coordinator?
You know what I mean? Like, who the fuck are the safeties? Like, you know what I mean? Like, this has nothing to do with. I think Jordan Love is going to be pretty good.
I think they're probably. I think they had one. Wasn't Garvin a safety and they moved into linebacker? Yeah, exactly. Even at less safeties, I won't be shocked if fucking Quentin Rowlands is getting some run later.
No, the Jonathan Owens. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He started all the games for the Texans last year. Yeah, and you know what the Texans were last year? Shit on both sides of the ball.
So, like, but that's the thing, man. I think Jordan Love. Is gonna have to go through what Aaron Rod. Everybody, I hate, you know what's the laziest take on Twitter is that, like, and I've never made, like, yeah, I wanted Odell Beckham Jr. and like real number two options, but all I ever wanted was the same thing you always wanted.
A real fucking defense.
So, like, the Packers, I think, did waste Aaron Rodgers' prime, but it had nothing to do with not drafting guys in the first round, like Chris Sims and all these dip shits talk about. Where they screwed him is. Like, you know, Ladarius Gunter can't be covering Julio Jones in a title game. You can't give Nick Perry. Who, you know, all this money after one double-digit sack season during a career year.
You know what I mean? Like, you probably should have said goodbye to Clay Matthews even earlier. You needed. You know, you probably should have paid Casey Hayward, Micah Hyde. That's where they screwed up, though.
And that's, I think, where Jordan Love's going to be fucked, unless this defense actually shows up because he could go out there and score 28 points, but it doesn't matter, dude, when the defense is giving up 30. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could shit on Rodgers in those NFC championship games. The fuck did you want him to do when he doesn't get to touch the football because some third-string running back is going off for 220 yards? You know what I mean?
It's hard for him. Then, if he goes three and out, he's on the sideline for 45 minutes. That's why I think the Rodgers slander was always pretty lazy. And I think he's going to be pretty good with the Jets.
So I'll go over. Uh, I like Robert Sala, he's a psychopath. Rogers, like, we don't have to worry about Hackett. Rogers calls the plays. Rogers is the head coach of that team.
This is like a LeBron situation. We've never seen anything like this in the NFL. Russell Wilson tried to do it in Denver, but everybody was like, fuck.
Well, no, Sal is coaching the defense. Rogers is like a cult leader. You know what I mean? Like, he's in there right now, just like brainwashing all these young kids, probably. Yeah, and I don't like that.
And you like that, and I didn't. I like Rogers. I love him. He's my, yes, over on the Jets. I'm going to be going over on a lot of these teams in this division, though.
The Buffalo Bills under. I don't know. The weirdest thing with the bills is that They were On the come, 10 and a half is their total. And then everyone decided that when they lost to Cincy last year, the window closed. Yeah.
I think they need to sign D-hop, first of all. Yeah. 11 wins possible for the Bills.
So Under. I'm going to take Buffalo over the 10 and a half. Really? Yeah, Buffalo's good, dude. All right, hear me out, okay?
I'm going to make a couple cases that might change your mind. You could say that on the podcast. I wouldn't bet it, though. Let me tell you why.
Something weird's going on with Josh Allen. I don't give a shit about the off-the-field shit, but him and his girlfriend broke up. There's all these rumors. You could Google it. I don't give a fuck about that.
What scares me more about Josh Allen, who's on the cover of Madden this year? Uh Josh Allen. Madden curse. Who does Stephon Diggs all of a sudden fucking hate and was screaming at? To end the season.
Now he wants more say in the play calling. That doesn't, that'll probably work itself. Stefan Diggs thing, I don't know. It goes in one ear or out the other to me. I don't think.
I think I don't think it's anything. I do. And I like, okay, so Gabe. I'm probably wrong, though.
So, sure. I do like Dalton Kincaid, especially the way that they're going to use him. And I guess Gabe Davis had a high ankle sprain after week two and just played through it. I just thought he kind of stunk last year. Oh, did you hear what I'm playing through?
What? Plantar fasciitis. Oh, Joe Kevin Noah had that, it ruined his career. Yeah, what's ruining my fucking life? I know.
I got to wear shoes all day in the house. How the fuck did you get planar fasciitis? Don't you have to like move and do things? No offense. I'm not being a dick, but like, how did you get that?
I don't have that. Because I did it the other way. I didn't move too much. Then I started moving again. I basically got it because I'm a lazy piece of shit that podcasts from his basement and watches Marvel all day on the couch.
And then the weather got nicer.
So I started walking my son to daycare and then walking back home. And that was too much for my tiny little toes with the 230 pounds of gut that it's got to carry step by step. That's how I fucking got it. Man, we're going to be a broken down podcast here soon. I got arthritis of the hip in my 30s, and you got fucking plantar fasciitis.
I'd rather be you. In the community, we call it PF. We just call it PF. I would trade PF Changs. I would trade you in a heartbeat, man.
You want fucking arthritis in your hip? I would much rather have your. Body, I saw a picture of you at the beach. Yeah, it's hard work and determination, though. I try to tell you how to do it.
You got to do the all-day fasting and eat one big meal, you'll lose weight like crazy. Yeah, you don't even have to. You honestly, like, I like working out because I need it for my mental health, or I'd go insane and just like break shit all the time, especially after losing bets. But Ah. You don't even really need to fucking work out.
You could literally just go for a walk every day, eat the right food, and you could still eat bad on the weekends and drink. I quit drinking for a month. I gained weight. That's probably because you were more stressed out. Stress adds pounds.
This isn't what the people are here for. What the people are here for is: all right, so hold on. Back to the built: Madden Curse, Josh Allen knocking up porn stars, getting them pregnant. Josh Allen and his girlfriend have broken up. She was at the Derby looking for old dick.
The defensive side of the ball. Micah Hyde, another year older, coming off a neck injury. Jordan Poyer played her all last year. Von Miller is old ass, so you signed for all that money. Older, coming off a devastating injury.
Like, I don't love the defensive side of the ball as much as I did last year. You know what? Looking at their schedule, Horvon. Ken Dorsey blows. Ken Dorsey sucks.
That's what was the problem last year, dude. Early play calls, like early downs, they were shit.
So it had to be Josh Allen becoming Superman on third and eight. That's not sustainable. Last year, Like, I'm third in medium or third in long. All right, you convinced me. You can't on the bills.
But here, go to the dolphins now. Let's talk dolphins. Wait, wait, wait. Look at the bills' last seven convinced me. Jets at Eagles, by at Chiefs, Dallas, at Chargers, Patriots, at Dolphins.
That's a gauntlet. Yeah. All right, I'll go under Bills. God damn it. Dolphins over under nine and a half.
Dolphins to the moon. Dolphins might end up ruining my Jets love and winning this division if. Tua could stay healthy. I mean, Offensive side of the ball, they're going to be even better. It's year two under McDaniel.
Tuol could have been the MVP of the league first eight weeks of the season, man. Like, Then he just dealt with the concussions again. Vic Fangio. Defensive side of the ball, like you know, we got to see what Jalen Ramsey is because he's stunked the last couple years. He hasn't been the same player really since Devontae Adams stole his soul in that playoff game.
Then again, he did win a Super Bowl a couple years ago. I like them better on defense. Vic Fangio is still the man. Over. Dolphins to the moon if Tua could stay healthy.
Even if he gets hurt, they almost won that playoff game even without him, man.
So I think the Dolphins are going to be better this year. I'm going over on the Dolphins, under on the Bills, over on the Jets in this division. I'm going to go under on the Dolphins. I think nine is a good spot. Hater.
But wait, didn't I go under on the Jets too? Who's the one guy that always fucks Aaron Rodgers up, too? Vic Fangio. I think they split with the Jets. I'm going to go under on the Jets.
Under on the bills. Yeah, that AFC East, everyone's going to win nine fucking games.
Okay. Even the Patriots? The Patriots are at seven and a half, and I would go over on that. Yeah, me too, to be honest with you. I mean They're weird though.
Like, I don't know what to do with them because I fucking hate Bill O'Brien and now he's the play caller. But the last time him. Yeah, they are like, what are they like? What's a good comparison for them? They're like.
Like the Bulls. Yeah. Well, now they are because they're like living off their past.
So they're like a name. No, not the Bulls. I don't know. There's something more recent. I was going to say, like, the heat because, like, everybody wants to blow Belichick the same way they blow Spoltskra, even though he's lost three finals in a row.
Like, when are we going to have that conversation? I was finished in the playoffs with a two and seven record. People forget. Like, oh, LeBron goes to the finals every year, but he's not the best player ever because sometimes he loses. But Eric Spolstra, you know.
coaches this team to the finals and you know A weak ass East, no offense.
So, I guess I'm going to go over on New England, even though they're a giant mystery. And I'm going to take the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins to all win nine games, and the Patriots to win eight. Yeah, I don't have a whole lot to say about the Patriots because I hate Bill O'Brien. But, like I said, the last time him and Mac Jones worked together, Mac Jones. one of Heisman in Alabama.
They're just a weird team. Belichick, like this whole Belichick thing where he's like on all these guys for the second time, it's like it's getting annoying. Why was nobody talking about like, you know, what would be the weirdest thing? Like, when D-Hop was taking visits, remember when Bill O'Brien? Traded DeAndre Hopkins for a broken down fucking David Johnson.
Why would he want to go play in an offense where he's calling the plays? And remember, wasn't there like some weird thing where he said, like, I don't know.
Some like borderline, like racist shit. Why he traded them too? I don't know. I hate Bill O'Brien. I can't do it with the Patriots.
Under, actually. Bill O'Brien's got the wrong lot in life. He would be the perfect high school football coach for 40 years where he runs the fucking team. And in the last 20 years, he doesn't really coach, but everyone's still afraid of him. This is this, they call this the Fond du Lac Springs.
And he gets his fields named after him. And people are always like, they treat him like he's a goddamn celebrity, even though he's just fucking some old curmudgeon. Fuck him. Yeah, with you.
So that's the AFC East. Yeah, yeah, it is. Go Jets, J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets. The fighting Aaron Rodgers is. The AFC North Division over under win totals.
Let's start with my Steelers. Hey. Mike Tomlin does not have a losing record. And if he didn't have a losing record last year, why in the shit is he gonna have one this year? Over under eight and a half.
Over! Yeah, man. And that was like TJ Watt got hurt. When TJ Watt's on the field, they're a top-five defense. When he's off the field, they stink.
Plus, I'm a Pickens. Pyromaniac, baby. Yeah, I like them too. I like them a lot more than that. And by pickings, I mean pickets.
But Pickens is good too. He's also there. I was going to say, he's there too. You can't really go wrong with either. I like Kenny Pickett.
I like the Steelers. Isn't it weird though? Like. How these people have these names. Kenny Pickett.
Pick it off. That pitcher that was named Bob Walk. I mean, isn't that weird when that shit happens? It is. You know what else is weird?
Is how Mike Tomlin wins at least nine games this year.
So he'll do that. He'll. They'll never have a losing season over on the Steelers. That's the easiest bet I think you could make. But I am not going to make it though.
So our guy Eric Edholme Recently wrote a column for NFL.com. Ah. And it's about how the Browns are a sneaky Contender Yeah. Says if there's a last to first possibility, not name the jets. That he's fascinated by.
It's the Browns. Tough division, yes. but kind of reminds them of the Vikings. Team last year, where they could be one of these teams that wins a bunch of close games. A lot of this hinges on Deshaun Watson, who I thought was number two to Patrick Mahomes number one before All of the touching.
And then now that he's come back, I think he looked very, very bad. Like Jacoby Brissette was better.
So the browns over under. Nine and a half? That's gross. That's too high. I'm taking the under.
I'm not going to take the over, but I'm not going to take the under because I agree with Ed Holm. Like, what if Deshaun Watson looks like and he looks healthy? What if he looks like Deshaun Watson, you know, a couple of years ago with Houston and he's a top-five quarterback in this league, which I think he can be? And if Nick Chubb stays healthy, if that offensive line goes back to what they were. If the defense gets better, you know, I don't know how good Kevin Stefanski is, though.
You know, like year one with Baker Mayfield, he made Baker Mayfield look like a real NFL quarterback and they won a playoff game. They beat Pittsburgh, they beat Mike Tomlin. But Um, I'm not like running to bet this. I would lean over on the Browns, though. I'm probably going to bet them a lot this season.
But they're not the team I like in this division. The team that I like in this division is Baltimore. Me too. And their over-under is what do we got for them? It's eight.
Yeah. Well, so it went up. I betted it nine and nine and a half. I have like $1,700 on that. No joke.
I was all over. I just think, I think when Lamar Jackson says, I'm going to throw for 6,000 yards. I think he's like downplaying it. I think he is going to throw for 6,000. He's going to throw for a shitload of yards.
Yeah. And he's going to remind people. He wants to remind you. About this whole, like, you know, he's been hurt, and then we've just been talking about him. And does he deserve this?
And highest paid that, and we like. Forget that he's good as shit. Yeah. So I will take the over. Baltimore Ravens.
Yeah, I was hoping that they were going to trade him. To the Packers for Jordan Love, to be honest with you, because he's my favorite quarterback in the league, not named Aaron Rodgers.
So I might take the Ravens as my Super Bowl pick. Yeah, I mean Ravens, Seahawks. No. No. Seattle is not going to the Super Bowl.
But I'm with you on the Ravens, to be honest with you. I mean, is J.K. Dobbins going to show up, though? Because they're going to need him and they're going to need to give him the football. I like the Ravens because Greg Roman's gone.
Right? He was shit, let's be honest. Uh Lamar Jackson's pissed off. He got paid. I completely agree if he says he's going to throw for 6,000 yards.
Like, look at the dudes he won the MVP with that year. And I know that, like, some people want to rip the Odell Beckham Jr. signing. I know they kind of overpaid for him, but it's only one year.
So if he's washed, you move on. And if he's Odell Beckham Jr. that we saw in the first half of that Super Bowl when he was the best player on the field, not Cooper Cup, I love it. Defensive side of the ball, they're not like what they were, obviously, a couple of years ago, but they're still really good. I like Kyle Hamilton.
I think he's going to be a hell of a player, but I'm also biased because he went to Notre Dame. I like the Roquan signing because it allows Patrick Queen, who's not what we thought he was going to be, just to do one thing, and that's rush the passer. He's pretty much not what you thought he was going to be. He could get after the quarterback, and if you got Roquan Smith doing everything else. You know, it works out, even though they paid for Roquan.
So I'm with you over on Baltimore, man. I think that they're a legit Super Bowl contender if Lamar stays healthy. The last two years when Lamar's got hurt, They were number one in the division. A couple of years ago, they were the number one overall seed. Remember the year where Tennessee ends up getting the number one seed in Cincinnati goes to the Super Bowl.
So every time Lamar plays, they win. And I love Harbaugh. I love how he just doesn't give an F. And he says, Lamar, what should we do? We go for two.
Sometimes they lose the game, but. I like it.
So all in on the Ravens this year. Go Baltimore. What about Cincinnati? Cincinnati's at 11 and a half. And sometimes these teams like the Packers have done this.
They win 13 games and you look and their over-under was 10.5. And at the time, you're like, oh, geez, to win 11 games, but then they hit a stride through the season and they just roll. I guess they could do that, but. 11 and a half is kind of high. I'm going to say under for Cincinnati.
Yeah, I like them a lot because I love Joe Burrow.
So I'm rooting for them to go over. And I want them to win a, I want to see Burrow win a couple Super Bowls here soon. But you know what scares me a little bit about them, man, is they've been healthy the last couple of years. Like, Burrow, I mean, he tore his ACL as rookie year. But then he's been healthy.
You know, Jamar Chase has been healthy.
Well, he actually missed cut. He missed time last year, too. I don't know, man. Um,. That's just, I'm with you.
I wouldn't bet it. I don't want to bet against Joe Burrow, though, because I could easily see them winning 13, 14 games. I like them a lot. But uh in that division, I think I think that might be the best division in football. I know we're going to talk about the East, but.
I mean, if the Browns live up to the hype and win 12 games, and Deshaun looks like he did a couple of years ago. This is going to be tough to win. The Steelers could win this division, like you said.
So I'd lean under just because 11 and a half seems a little inflated. But if they stay healthy, they're probably going to win 13 games. Also, this could be their last shot. I know they've said that they plan on paying Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and T. Higgins.
But then are you going to have the Packers defense? Like, who the hell are you going to be able to sign then if you have? the two highest paid wide receivers and the highest paid quarterback in the league. They're probably going to have you and I at secondary.
So I'm going to lean under, but I'm not going to bet against Joe Burrow ever. He's the new Tom Brady. Yeah, I'll probably lean on it too. He's better looking than Tom Brady, though. Oh, yeah.
He's got cool hair. I kind of wish I had Joe Burrows' hair, don't you? I kinda wish I I kinda wish I looked like anybody else other than me. I think he would beat the shit out of you too. Joe Burrow?
Yeah. I think there's a quarterback in the league that I could beat up. I don't think there's a kicker in the league that I could beat up. You could probably get like Mike Lennon. Mike, I don't know, actually.
He's like 6'7. His reach. Nah, I cut him at the knees, step on his neck. Yeah, I don't know, man. Mason Rudolph seems like a big limp.
He might be able to take him. Nah, he'll sucker punch me that asshole. Cheers. AFC West. Yep.
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Yeah, first five. Hell yeah. Brewers need to piss off. All right, we'll start with the Chiefs. 11 and a half for Kansas City Chiefs.
That's very high. like I just said with Cincinnati. They're the only team in the National Football League this season that's favored in every single game. The Eagles are not. The Chiefs are.
Every game. I mean, obviously, that could change. Injuries and whatnot. Schedule could be tougher. I can ride over.
I can ride over other chiefs. I would rather honestly like cut my eyeballs out and throw them in molten lava than ever bet against Patrick Mahomes. But I'm not running to play the over here. There's another team that I'm all about in this division. Yeah.
It's Patrick Mahomes, dude. But I could see them winning like 10 games and still winning the Super Bowl. You know what I mean? I mean, Mahomes is going to win like six Super Bowls. I don't even know who's the is MVS, Sky Moore, who the hell is wide receiver number one this year for them?
It don't matter. probably over where did juju go he went to new england right yeah he's in new england Who is their number one receiver? Isn't it? Did McCall Hardman leave? Didn't he go to Miami?
Yeah. Um Yeah. And the S. Yeah, MVS or oh oh Kadarius. Oh, yeah, Kadarius Toney.
I mean, Travis Kelly. Oh, no. You know, who's going to have 80 catches there is Justin Ross. Oh, yeah. Not to be confused with John Ross, who is also there somehow.
Cody Fordson will catch like 90 balls. It's the Chiefs, dude. They'll do whatever the hell they want. Mahomes will do whatever he wants. Yeah, they're probably winning at least 12.
I'd go over. If I had to bet. All right, I'm going to go over two. The team you love, if I'm not mistaken, is the Chargers. Yeah, let's go.
Let's go. And you know what I love about the Chargers? Is my game? Nine and a half. Update.
They're going to start 10-0. You'll catch this bet by week 11. All right, so with the chargers. I love Justin Herbert. Dude's got the biggest arm in the NFL.
But the problem for him the last couple of years is that noodle brain, Joe Lombardi's been the offensive coordinator and he's senile or whatever. And he, for some reason, thinks that he's running the Drew Brees offense.
So he has Justin Herbert in his cannon arm. Dinkin and Duncan down the field.
Well, he's gone. In comes Kellen Moore. He might be shit, but I know he's going to allow Justin Herbert to throw the ball down the field. I love Quentin Johnston out of TCU. He's a 6-3 burner.
So that means that, I mean, what's the charge? Chargers' problem every year is health, man. Like Keenan Allen and Mike Williams are injured by week four. Even if that's the case, now you got Quentin Johnston there. You were able to bring back Austin Eckler.
I think he's going to have a monster year. You keep fixing that offensive line. I love what they did defensively last year. It's just everybody got hurt. If you could keep Joey Bosa healthy for an entire season and you pair him with Cleo Mack.
Those are still, even though Khalil Mack is getting a little bit older, two of the better pass rushers in the league, edge rushers. JC Jackson was a disaster, but two years ago, he was the best corner in the league, top three with New England. Bill Belichick's so smart. Anytime he lets anybody go, it's like. Why would you not bring back JC Jackson?
And then it's like, oh, he sucks, and he's arrested by week four. I think he has a bounce back year. Derwin James is awesome. And if there's one guy that can neutralize Travis Kelsey in that division, it's Derwin James if you play him in man coverage at the safety position. I like the Chargers a lot.
They just got to stay healthy. The weird thing about Brandon Staley is he's this defensive-minded head coach, yet they've regressed every year defensively since Fire and Anthony Lynn. But I think this is finally the year they live up to the hype, man. There's just way too much talent. I think Herber's going to have a monster year.
I love them over on their win total. They're They're nearly plus 400 still to win that division. That's my favorite bet. I'm on them pretty big. And I took a shot.
Healy's like the reverse Mike Vrabel, where the talent gap. Yeah. Of the team is much better than the coach. They got to win 10 games. This team's way too freaking good.
So, over, over, over for me, too. Yeah. The Raiders. Oh my god. Yeah, under dude.
That's the easiest bet you could make. The Raiders should have one goal and one goal only. First off, who the fuck's their quarterback? Because Jimmy Garoppolo didn't pass. Did he pass his physical?
Even if he's there, who? Like. He's it's it's not going to go well. Um I'm way under on the Raiders. I think Devontae may be looking to get moved by midseason.
I mean, I know that's where we wanted to be, but I think they're going to be terrible. Oh, yeah, he hates every day. He made the wrong decision. He knows it. I keep saying he regrets leaving Green Bay.
Maybe he doesn't regret that, but he played this wrong.
So, like, and here's the thing: I think it's a lot to go under six and a half because, okay, if Jimmy Garoppolo's there, I think his ceiling is six wins with like this coaching staff. Brian Hoyer is your backup. Aiden O'Connell, who I do like from Purdue, but he's not an NFL quarterback. That's your depth chart. I think the Raiders should have one goal and one goal only.
You just got to Vegas a couple of years ago. You have that big stadium. You want to be fucking terrible because you want Caleb Williams or you want Drake May. That should be the goal right there. And you might be bad enough.
Problem is, Arizona is going to be shit. But I wonder with Arizona, like we talked about when we did the NFC, if Arizona is shit and they win one or two games, do they draft Caleb Williams or Drake May? I think you have to. And, like, but you just paid Kyler all that money. This season's going to be so awesome, but I think the Raiders should suck.
Kind of w it's still too long for football to come. I know, man. I know. But, like. Also at the same time.
You know. Yeah. I was trying to think of something positive, but you're a brewery. There's nothing positive. I'm a Cubs fan, and even if one of these teams wins the NL Central, the summer is overrated.
There's no football. It's fun if you have a good baseball team. But if you have a mediocre. Miss me with summer. Denver Broncos are eight and a half.
That is a lot of. That is a lot of credit to Sean Payton. This is not debt. Sean Payton is going to be wearing like. Purple ties come week 12 to try to tell the Vikings to come get him.
You know, he want this is not going to go well. Under eight and a half. I think Sean Payton still parties. Doesn't he always look like he's like. Like well geez, he's dating some chick who's That's what I mean.
He's kind of like, I think he's going through a midlife crisis, to be honest with you. He wore an orange tie on Fox to give a hint to the Broncos that he was interested in their job. I heard like a 55-year-old man. I heard all season long he would watch Hackett and watch the Broncos though and just be like. Oh, I could fix this.
I could fix that.
So, like, I don't want to bet them over, but I don't want to bet them under because Russell Wilson, those final couple weeks of the season, started to look like himself a little bit. I think Hackett's terrible. And I think Sean Payton, like we know he knows offense. Although like Let me ask you this really quick. Do you ever feel like Sean Payton's a little overrated?
Like, okay, everybody. And you know who was like maybe a little underrated? I know he's. You know, not the best quote. But we always shit on Mike McCarthy.
Yeah, Mike McCarthy is Sean Payton. Who always says that? I think Bukowski always says that Payton is McCarthy with better PR. Yeah, like, dude, the Saints, just like the Packers, have invented new ways to lose football games in the playoffs.
Now, granted, We did watch that guy mugged on national TV, and the league had other ideas of who they wanted in the Super Bowl. I'll never forget that, so much that we changed the rule next year, and we had. pass interference reviewable, which was terrible. But other than that, man. I mean Sean Payton's won one Super Bowl.
Mike McCarthy's won one Super Bowl. I mean, I guess he's been back to at least one. But Yeah, I mean, maybe he's a little overrated. I don't know. I'd probably lean over on the Broncos because they're going to have a top-five defense.
I love the under. They got so much talent though, man. I like that at the Nuggets games. They'd show Peyton Manning and be like, That's our guy. And then they'd show Russ and be like, fuck this all over.
But when you think about it, man, I mean, I know Peyton had that record-breaking season. But he doesn't deserve any credit for that Super Bowl that they won. He got benched that season. He couldn't throw a past 15 yards. He couldn't throw a ball that year.
Was that the season Osweiler had his helmet on and then he had to be stuck? Yeah. Peyton was terrible. They won despite him. They won.
That might, everybody overhypes the 85 Bears. who were playing a bunch of garbage men as quarterbacks. That's the defense that everybody should talk about: that Broncos defense. Von Miller was insane. Yeah, they beat the shit out of Cam Newton.
Yeah. Remember then he didn't dive on the ball and everybody just killed him? No, they didn't worry about that. They didn't like that he didn't give long answers in the presser. Remember when we used to have shitty Super Bowls every year?
Yeah. Now every Super Bowl, of course, comes down to the wire.
Well, now they're starting to rig these things. Actually, never mind. Two years ago, Patrick Mahomes got absolutely torched. By the by the Buccaneers. Shaire says that Jordan Love is the best quarterback in the league.
How does that make you feel? Wait, what? Jaire Alexander says Jordan loves the best quarterback in the league. Yeah, okay.
Well, I strongly disagree that I don't even know that he's the best quarterback in his own division.
Okay, I'll take Justin. Is he the best quarterback in the late? I'll take Mahomes. Would you rather have Tan or Mordecai running the Packers this year? No, I don't even have Jordan Love that low on my quarterback list, dude.
I got him over a bunch of guys. I got him over Ryan Tannehill, who's played in the playoffs before. Again, I don't think Jordan Love is going to suck. I just, I don't think he's going to be Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre. I don't think those are realistic expectations.
We talked about this recently. What if he's Dak Prescott? I'm ecstatic. I love he's a top 10 quarterback in the league, then. Dax awesome.
Yeah. Yeah, I I put Dak top top ten. Like, that's the thing, man. Like, that's really good. I mean...
These guys are all really good. Rogers is awesome. He can't just be like, oh, he's only got one Super Bowl ring, or oh, Dak's never played in a Super Bowl, because it's like, He's one guy on a football team. And like, let's be honest, we just got done talking about the Broncos. I mean, you gotta have, you gotta have a pass rush.
The ditch I mean the Chiefs, I guess. like are the exception, although their defense the second half of the season was awesome too. But Usually it's the best defense. Brady won that Super Bowl in Tampa, but he won it because the defense held Patrick O'Homes the nine points. You know, the Ravens with Ray Lewis.
You could talk like Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Jim McMahon won a Super Bowl. I don't think he could fucking see out of both eyes. He's like chewing on a fork right now somewhere. That's bad.
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I could just end the podcast here, and that's fine. But I like the conversation I had, and I think it. People are interested in baseball.
So I will put that here. My baseball conversation. With RJ Anderson. Of CBS Sports Writing. RJ Anderson's joining us.
He writes for CBS Sports.com, covers the MLB, getting into the MLB draft. We'll talk about that a little bit. Too. But I think, like, with Shohei Otani, I don't think. I'm trying to argue a little bit, RJ, and thanks for coming on.
Baseball is Like everyone says it's a regional sport. I think it's a national sport. It's just hard to take time and pause and notice the celebrations and the milestones of players. I think that there's the structure of baseball is like horrible. Holding Shohei Otani's star down a little bit.
In the NFL, if Patrick Mahomes is a big game, we've probably watched the game, and then we have all week to talk about it and look at the highlights and discuss it. In MLB, you've got to really do, like, you've got to have 25 runs and two innings for it to break through. You've got to have a Shohei Otani kind of night. I feel like. You know, MLB could market this better.
I don't know that baseball really allows for a Shohei Otani to be as big as maybe. He should be is what I'm saying. Yeah, I think you're right in that. And I think that there's probably some blame to go around to the league and how they approach things. But also, I think the structure of baseball makes it difficult to have the kind of a home-style breakdown because you have seven days between games.
I know there are exceptions in the NFL, but usually you have seven days between games, whereas in baseball, you know, he has a big game, okay, that's Tuesday.
Now he's playing again on Wednesday.
So you know, obviously he's not pitching every single day and so on and so forth. But I do think that the daily structure and like, you know, the grind like aspect of the of the game makes it a little more difficult to have those kind of obsessive binges that we get in other sports. And I don't know that what I don't know that what you know what could they do. Even a guy like Luis Arias, who is on a quest to hit 400, I don't know that that's being talked about enough. And I don't know how much more baseball can do.
I think one thing is they need to look with their TV partners and say, all right. Shohei's pitching in this game. Let's do something with it. Why are we showing the A's and the Yankees when we could be showing a Shohei Otani game? Why are we showing the Twins and the White Sox when Shohei's on the mound?
We got to be doing that. It might even hurt that he's on the West Coast and these games start later. But from a marketing standpoint, I don't know if you've got any other ideas, but I don't know what they can do. to kind of break through even more. Yeah, and I it kind of brings to mind last fall when Aaron Judge was on this historic home run chase and they broke into college football games to show his at bath and go on Twitter and the timeline is full of people complaining that they broke into this random college football game to show, you know, a historic at bats.
So I think we should do more of that stuff. You know, if ESPN and the other partners roll out, I think you should break in, show Horizon's at bats, show Shoe Atani's half inning pitching or his at bats as well. And you know, just make these moments feel more monumental and make them feel more important. And you're right, I don't know if the casual fan really knows what Luis Sarai is doing. And I think part of that is Yeah, a place where what is perceived as a small market team.
necessarily going to be in the postseason discussion, although they have played better than I expected. And I think that hurts them as well.
So, you know, but the thing is, we've talked about two really good players having historic seasons, historic pursuits here, and we said, oh, you know, uh, it's up to the market and all this. And then you look at the NBA or you look at some of these other sports, you almost never hear that come up.
So Maybe we're hiding behind, you know, maybe we're excusing some larger issues here by just saying, ah, you know, it's the market, because there's only, what, five or six markets that we wouldn't say that for.
So I think that's unfortunate, maybe, that we've kind of grown to use that as a defense as often as we do. And maybe that's the problem. Like I think in the NBA, Giannis is a star in Milwaukee. He won a championship. Jokic is a star in Denver.
He won a championship. And that has obviously elevated his stature. The Angels have been a team where, because again, I've mentioned Patrick Mahomes before. If you're not a Chiefs fan and you like football, you will end up watching 9, 10, 11 games where Patrick Mahomes is playing. It's just that's the nature of the NFL.
With Shohei Otani, if you're not an Angels fan and don't watch them every night, I. I don't know how many games you end up watching. And maybe you see like a Sunday night game, he's got to be on there.
Okay, that's not a lot. Maybe the All-Star game, well, he's in there for one at-bat, one inning. And then the playoffs, which show, hey, they've not had a winning record since he's been there. And I think the Angels, you know, I don't know what they could get in terms of a haul for him. As a rental, if somebody wanted to look at him that way, I think the angels have the opportunity to say, hey, you're actually trading for two guys, so we need twice the pay.
But if I'm the angels. I ride this thing out. I don't know that he, even if he doesn't sign with us afterwards, I think this is their shot. To get into the postseason finally and see what happens. I think they gotta keep them.
I don't know if they're gonna be persuaded to, I don't know if ownership is like. I kind of wish we were losing so we could we could deal this guy, get some pieces. Where are you at with the Angels and what they might be doing? Yes.
So I asked around the league last deadline because the Angels were in a worse position with regards to the standings. And the nature of baseball is that you usually want to trade your players ahead of their walk here because then the acquiring team can get free agent drafted compensation if they leave, and that increases their trade value. Anyway, uh The read I got from You know, people around the league was that ownership did not want to trade Otani. And I had one person speculate, and I'm I'm emphasizing there was speculation. I don't know this to be an actual you know fact of life or whatever, but speculated that if the Angels general manager finds himself in a position where he has to trade Otani because they're not competitive this year, then that would probably be signing his own pink slip.
Because at that point, your fate is kind of connected to Otani's.
Now if they make the postseason this year and then Otani says, you know what, I really prioritize the World Series ring. This is a very fun season. This is the best season I had with the Angels from a team mobile perspective, but I don't believe this team is capable of winning a World Series in the next three to five years and goes and signs with the Dodgers or the Mets or wherever he ends up signing with. I think at that point, you know, the general manager could probably say, hey, I did my job. I did my job.
You know, I got us to the postseason. I gave us a chance to refine them. The reality is, I have a hard time seeing Osani staying with the Angels, you know, shy of like a Miracle World series run. Yeah. Cannot envision a scenario where he says, okay, the Angels are making me the best offer on the grounds of not just money, but the potential to win a World Series.
And this is someone who keeps in mind. He chose to come over to the majors years before. He could have gotten a massive payday. Like he took the league minimum to come over when he did. He could have waited a few years and then gotten a bigger deal.
The fact that he did that shows that he's not just about the money. And you know, he's not going to be lacking in long blockbuster offers this off season anyway.
So I just have a hard time seeing him stay become this winter. I do think that as the things stand right now, he's going to be an angel the rest of the season. But we're still several weeks away from the deadline. Things can change. Yeah, that should be interesting to see.
And they are in a position at least, you know, the Rangers are doing well in that division, but they're in a position where they can at least look at themselves as contenders and maybe even buyers. At the deadline. The other side of that, I think there's a lot of teams. That are very disappointing. You look at some of the lineups.
I still hammer the drum that the White Sox, for what they were building a couple of years ago before La Russa came in, I thought they would be World Series contenders at this point with that team. I think they're very disappointing. I think the Cardinals obviously are very disappointing. And then the Mets. With with their payroll, would you put the Mets as the most disappointing and and there's a gap between them and somebody else?
Or which team do you think, like, should be the most embarrassed about how they've played so far. Yeah, I think I would put the method as the most disappointing. You know, I think it's a combination Of them spending almost $100 million more on payroll than any other team. And the second-place team is the Padres, more like $99 million back. And they've also disappointed this season, but You factor in the payroll, you factor in the preseason expectations, and you factor in where they are.
It's not just that they have a losing record. I mean, their playoff chances are really minimal at this point. Like, they have to play at basically like a ninety-five plus win pace the rest of the way and have all the teams ahead of them play around five hundred for them to actually get in. And that is not something that I expected to be saying on the Cups to July. I don't think anyone expected that.
Even if you were a little pessimistic about some of their moves this winter, you know. Let's face it, Justin Verlander is older. Matt Schurz is older. We know that old players, especially pitchers, can crater. It wasn't out of the realm of possibility that they have some issues with the rotation and whatnot, but I don't think anyone expected this to be the outcome and I'm really curious to see how the next few weeks go for them and whether they decide, hey, we should try to sell at the deadline, because I don't think they have as many mood pieces as people think because of the financial situation, the age situation.
And the fact that, remember, this is a team that needs to make itself as appealing as possible this winter for Otani if he does become a free agent. It's going to be an interesting month in New York, and we'll see what Steve Cohen has to say today at his press conference. Yeah, tweeted yesterday. Everything will be addressed.
So he will be talking today. R.J. Anderson, CBS Sports.com, joining us here, Bill Ryders, Writer Than You. I'm Bart Winkler, Infra Bill. Uh w I thought that the College World Series kinda had a moment.
A lot of viewers, I think it's as high as it's been that I can remember, getting to a game three was huge for them because that was more eyeballs on a Monday night. And now, if I'm not mistaken, I think like This is interesting for the MLB draft because some of these guys, a lot of times the number one prospect, you know, we're not really sure of who it is, and we'll maybe read about it, learn about it. Were there's going to be guys that we just saw this last weekend that will be drafted. Did the World Series insanely boost their stock? Or who can we expect to see called in maybe the top five, top ten that we're like familiar with now?
Yeah, this is actually a great College World Series for MLB draft mixers because you had four of the potential top ten picks. playing for LSU or Florida. And that's Dylan Cruz, an LSU outfielder. Everyone I talked to considers him the number one prospect in this class. They have a right-hander who unfortunately didn't get the pitch in the finals, but his name is Paul Steen.
in the upper 90s, has a really tenacious slider, just insane swing and miss rates on that. And then on the Florida side, they have an outflower named Wyatt Langford. He's a really good hitter. He'd be the number one pick in most drafts, but unfortunately, he's not going to draft with Dylan Cruz. And Hurston Waldrick, a right-hander, has really good stuff, but needs to work on his command.
So, in addition to those four, I'll tell you, they also have. Two potential top 10 picks next year on those rosters.
So, this was a loaded. College World Series finals. And I don't think it necessarily affected their stock. You know, I think most teams have already had their draft meetings or in the process of having those. And they already kind of know what these players are.
These aren't mystery candidates or anything like that.
So keep those four names in mind though on July ninth, next Sunday, because that's when the draft happens. And Again, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for all four to go in the top ten. That's how good this finals was. It's just always cooler when you kind of like have an idea, or you've seen guys when they get drafted. And sometimes in baseball, we don't know that.
Even in basketball, we don't always know that.
So this is pretty. Pretty cool. Hey, thanks for a couple minutes. RJ Anderson, appreciate the work. Find more CBSsports.com, and we'll talk again.
Thank you for having me. And that'll do it for the June 29th episode. The Bar Winkler Show. Got a show tomorrow, Kevin Holden. Also, I am in a chat with Oswald Boachwa.
He is a guy who was born, I believe, in Waukesha. Then went back to Tanzania for 13 years came back here and is has a program to help with Immigrants and refugees, and get them acclimated in Milwaukee. And they're also trying to raise some funds. for a soccer league in Tanzania.
So basically, there's a pro league there, but there's no other league of any kind. And he's trying to start one.
So we'll talk to him tomorrow too. And then next week, again, kind of a soft. A soft break. If you will. Check out the website, BartWinklershow.com, for updates.
I'm Bart Winkler. We will talk to you on Friday.
