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Good. Good morning, everybody. Oh, that's a rough one. A little under the weather I think so Maybe I should be napping. Because I got a lot to say tonight.

From a national perspective. But there's so much that has happened since we have lost last lost, last gone in. to the Winklerverse. And this is where I would now hit a sweet ass open. Uh which I don't have Never really had music for this show either.

Very. Very just uh Cookie cutter and Not half ass, but for a guy who's been doing podcast on his own for nearly two years now. You would think that You would think they'd have a better setup than this. $80 microphone. Um and sitting next to uh A water pump.

Great to be with you. StreamYard link is up on uh Well, it's at least on X I'll put it on YouTube. And Facebook as well. Lots to get into. Um, I've got things that I want to say.

The Sean O'Connell has popped right in.

So, Sean, I'm going to let you dictate the conversation. Um how you been, buddy? Very good, thanks. How are you feeling? Oh, I'm okay.

I get sick like eight times a year, so it's no big deal.

Okay, glad to hear that you're not terribly infirmed. Yes, it has been Exciting for brewers for a moment. It looked like we were going to kind of go for it this coming year, but now it looks more like. Foot in, foot out type. situation.

Wouldn't you agree?

So they signed Reese Hoskins, and I'm glad you started with that because that's where I wanted to start. But they signed Reese Hoskins. $17 million deal, first baseman. Hey, we got a guy that's like not bad. And then a few days later, a week later, they trade Corbin Burns.

which I think we'll see. What the results are going to be. But they trade Corbin Burns. And I feel like if the two things were swapped, It'd be different. People would be reacting in a different fashion.

But because it looked like they were competing and then they weren't. Everybody's so upset. Yeah. Right. I think that's The hopeful part of me, the, the, the, uh.

Part that looks always for the sunny side of life is thinking perhaps they know something about burns that. That they knew maybe this year wasn't going to be great for him, and they are trying to go on a 2018-like construction of. Bash the shit out of the baseball and only allow so many runs, outscore them instead of what it has been of. Try not to let more than three runs go and uh score three runs yourself.

Okay. Sean, do you want to say hi to Steve Sparky Pfeiffer? Yeah, absolutely. How about that? It's the Sean O'Connell and the Sparky Pfeiffer.

Yes, good afternoon. What's up, Bart? How you doing? What's up, V Sean O'Connell? How are y'all doing?

I just talked to you yesterday. you did and i i was i'm doing some production in here i just interviewed jim polesine of the Wisconsin State General talking to Badger basketball. I'll have that up on the 1250 website in a little bit and doing some production. Look at Twitter, and I see. Uh, you're broadcasting live with a stream yard link.

So I was like, what hell. I can do this.

So I clicked on and talked in some Brewers Baseball. You know, I didn't get to talk about Brewers Baseball yesterday.

So I wanted to talk about Brewers Baseball.

So, this is my question, Bart. Is this a playoff team? As we currently sit without Burns, without Woodruff, with William Adamas, let's say he stays. I don't know that I can I don't know. I don't know that I care.

None of you care. I have I have Bart does not care. I do have an answer for that. If I think they are a playoff team, particularly with the expanded playoff format, I do think we sneak. Right in there with the Matt Arnold disciple of robot David Stern's type of.

General managing slash coaching influence. Haskins puts us in, let's say. I don't think trading Corbin Burns takes us out.

Okay. I think Reese Hoskins is pretty pissed off right now. That's what I think. I think Reese Hoskins saw Corbin Burts get traded and said, What the hell is going on? I didn't come here to be a part of a damn rebuild.

I came here to compete for a playoff spot. And now your best pitcher is gone. And now it's Freddie Peralta and Wade Miley and a cast of characters. And really, as much as you're relying on the young bats, you're really relying on some of these young arms to take a step. Like Robert Gosser, can he get into this rotation and stay in this rotation?

Carlos Rodriguez, can he end up in the rotation at some point this year? That's really what it's all about. And that's what it's going to come down to. Bullpen, they're solid, not worried about the bullpen. Bats, you assume these young outfielders take a step this year and get better.

So that's positive. My question, though, is starting pitchers three and beyond. You know, how good will they be? In years past, they've done pretty good in this pitching lab or whatever you want to call it down in Arizona as far as kind of making something out of nothing. They're going to have to do it quite a bit this year, I think, for them to be a playoff team.

Adding Tim Shea to the program. We've got Shay Sparky. And Lee Sean O'Connell. Yeah, I don't know where he is. Are you in a dark room?

Like, what are you doing? Hiding out from somebody? My phone screen got cracked. and it's all screwed up so it's not as dark as it appears so Oh, your audio is also dog shit, too. I also just woke up from my nap.

Good. Well, I'll come get to you in a second.

So, Sparky. I don't think Reese Hoskins cares. Oh, I think he does. No, he signed here. It's a one-year deal.

This guy is like. The tier right before an all-star. He'll come to Milwaukee, make 17 million. Who else is going to be an all-star on this team? He's the all-star.

Big contract coming up for him. Devin Williams. Devin Williams is the all-star. That's who the all-star is going to be. It's going to be Devin Williams.

Well, maybe, maybe. But that's the thing, right?

So if you get to the deadline and things go wrong, let's say, and you're not winning, then Devin Williams can be traded. You could then trade Reese Hoskins as well. He could be gone too if you wanted to go that way. Wade Miley's on a short deal.

So if he's pitching well, you can trade him too and really get a. A plethora of talented prospects back as you continue the rebuild. I really am shocked that the owner of this team signed off on trading Corbin Burns and then Matt Arnold to say, hey, we're still open for business. Come shop, come see what you want. That's pretty crazy to me because that is not like Mark normally.

Mark normally wants to compete, kind of like. I'll call him Herb Cole, but kind of like that mentality of, you know, we want to be around 500 or better every year. We never want to drop back and suck for two or three years. And right now, you might be in danger of doing that if these young guys don't perform well. I just don't think that we're at the point where.

I mean, there's a lot of, like, Sean was right. There's one foot in, one foot out, but it's the whole organization. You've got six of the top 100 prospects that are coming up. You've got this era, whatever it is, and Domas is not going to get resigned, and Burns was not going to get re-signed, and Woodruff gets heard, and we got the yellow albatross forever. I think what happened was we all assumed, oh, we're not going to compete.

It's council's at the Cubs. This sucks. And then they signed Reese Hoskins. And all of a sudden, everyone's like, oh, we are contending. But we're not.

I mean, they might get into the playoffs, they might win 85 games, but. This thing's not going to win a World Series. I think in order for this to work. to win a World Series at some point. And we've went through having two.

You know, best players at their position or in that category with Fielder and Braun, and you didn't have the pitching.

Now you look at it, and you might be going down the same pathway where you've got a lot of hitters, right? With Mitchell and Churio. We'll see if. Uh, Joey Weimer can figure out his swing because, God, that was ugly last year. Uh, Sal Freelich may be a top of the order guy up there to do his thing.

Obviously, Contreras is good. Queros be a high name at catcher. They decide to move on from Contreras in the next couple of years.

So you've got bats, it appears, based on their minor league numbers.

Now, the question is: will the DL Hall and the Mizarowskis of the world be able to get their control to go along with their 100-mile-an-hour fastball? If those two find control, And the Brewer's album find control, then you've got two frontline starters again that might actually be more dangerous than Burns or Woodruff. If they can stay healthy, but that's kind of where the roll of the dice is. One or both of those guys has to work out to be in this rotation. If they both end up in the bullpen because they can't get control.

Then they're stuck because I don't think they have any front end rotation guys. anywhere close to the major league level right now in this farm system outside of those two. Shay, are you thinking playoffs? Do you care enough? No, I don't.

I I don't see them making the playoffs. May maybe 75 wins this year. No. Trading Corbin Burns was was a big mistake.

So why? Right now? Why right now? Why not see how the season goes? I mean, I like the idea of, okay, if you're playing like, you know, shit during the.

during the season and trade them at the trade everyone at the All-Star break. Yeah. If we do it your way, and we go, okay, we're going to do the Bonamaco Jr. way. We're going to roll with Corbin Burns.

Now you're going to get to the All-Star break. Frews are game up in the division, two games up in the division, three up in the division, whatever. Then you're going to go into the playoffs.

Now, listen here. You can say they're a playoff team with Corbin Burns.

Okay, I'll agree. Without Corbin Burns. They're not winning a World Series with Corbin Burns and Miley and Peralta as your top three. Remember, no wonder. That front three is not going to go win a World Series for this team this year.

Hey, you can catch lightning in a bottle. You can win a series here, win a series there. All of a sudden, you're in the NLCS. MLB teams can catch lightning in a bottle. The Brewers cannot, Tim.

Listen, it doesn't take a lot to get at least to the NLCS. They've been there. But if you go to the NLCS and lose, then you lose Corbin Burns for a pick.

Now you've got the same pick. We're losing them for nothing and two prospects that are major league ready to go with it. It was a great deal for the Brews. Yeah. I don't know.

I think everybody agrees it was at least, and Sean, I'm sorry, I'll get to the end of it here. I think everyone agrees it's a fine. a good deal, but they got all wrapped up with the Hoskins stuff. Who's not even like Worth. I mean, he's good.

I was excited to get him, but. I don't I don't think he like Sean, what do you got? Uh so yeah, um Coming into the season as far as players for the Brewers go Burns was my biggest question mark. Is he going to be healthy? Is he going to...

You know, regrets, I mean, he has. been frankly declining. I love the guy. I want to see him succeed. I want every brewer to succeed.

However, the other part of me, the cynical part of me, sees him as a declining asset that a lot of windows are closing on him, and one of them is team control. And so they moved on from him, and they're bringing up guys who are question marks as well.

So I'm saying, and I think Sparky and I are in the same ballpark in agreement: that at least it was something we could have ended up with a whole lot of nothing. He could have, I mean, Look at what happened to Brown and Woodruff. We'll never see the guy pitch again, probably, in the major leagues. That could very well be in. a brewer alternate future of Um burns the Having a career ending or at least season ending injury, and then we're stuck.

I'm glad we went with the young guys. And Burns in that division is not Burns in our division. Not even remotely close. I'll be shocked if his ERA is close to what it was at Milwaukee. I just think, based on what he's going to face, that number is going to go up.

His ERA is going to go up, and he's going to have more stumbles than he had in Milwaukee, would be my guess part. With that, I gotta go. I gotta get back to my production. Nice meeting y'all. Very good.

Sparky, one question. Could they? Package Adamas and Devin Williams right now to get not probably not a one starter, number one, but a two or three. Oh, maybe, yeah, but who's going to give up a two or a three-starter at this point? I mean, pitchers and catchers report, what, next week?

Man, nobody's going to do that at this point.

Now, I think if you move Adamas, you're moving him for a couple of prospects. Devin Williams, they'll hold them. They'll get to the deadline, and then at the trade deadline, if they're out of it. Then maybe they'll trade him like they did Hater. The difference between the two is: if they're out of it, fans are going to be pissed if they trade Devin Williams because they weren't in it anyhow.

But if they're in it, then they'll hold Devin Williams probably to the offseason and trade him before.

Next season is my guess, but that open is strong. Like I don't know. We'll see who that guy is to replace Devin Williams. Is it Abner or Uribe? I don't know.

Uribe's had some control issues too. And we'll see what happens. But no, I don't think they'll package them together. And even if they did, like, what pitching staff is deep enough to give you a two? And just right before the season starts without getting a starting pitcher back.

I just don't know. if that's realistic or not.

Okay. All right, Steve. Thank you. Good to see you. Always fun.

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I feel like from a bigger picture. Um I did not enjoy. Like I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I'm trying to think of how I want to frame this. Because I have for a long time. If I'm known for anything, it's. policing fans on how they can feel. I feel like so.

What I've seen in the last week is People get excited. About Reese Hoskins and then The Corbin Burns trade was like. All caps locked, furious, like we lost the team. And then the Badgers lose to Purdue. And suddenly people that are Not watching a lot of Badger basketball are all like freaking out because they saw a loss.

And then the Bucs have this great comeback. On Saturday, but then lose on Sunday, and people are melting down again. And I'm like. I just Either I am following. Like the real most passionate and reactionary people in all of sports.

Or I am just. I hate to say this from a national perspective, Tim. But am I out of touch with the average man? Yeah. I love it.

I love it. Are you saying you've lost uh A site of what Joe Lunchbox is thinking, Bart. Is that what I'm hearing from your mind? Maybe maybe having to pay attention to all this other stuff. I've lost the feeling of wanting to And being a sports fan because a guy who won a Cy Young for us three years ago got traded for.

Two major league ready guys and a pick. Maybe, maybe, maybe I'm freaking out that. Um you know Maybe I gotta look at myself that. What was a top 10 team is now, what, 11 in the country?

So it was a great path in March, but they lost a couple games. Maybe I need to freak out more that. I got to remember that even though the NBA playoffs aren't until April and May. We have to react. Like they're happening pre-A-Star break.

Maybe. Maybe I need to do that. Yeah. No, no, no. You keep doing what you do.

I just I think Sean I think the reaction is I'm just there. Again, maybe I'm just following like the wrong people. Maybe it's a social media thing. You're following the wrong people. Or, or yeah, or paying too close attention.

Just Bart, though, if there's anything about. Bart Winkler, that is true. It is that when Bart is just in the moment. That's the Bart Winkler we love best.

So when you're away from the microphone and you're maybe thinking too much, just. Remember that when it's balls of the wall where the rubber meets the road. That Bart Winkler always delivers.

So don't let this. But this part of you though, that where it's pulling against you, that's what makes you the best, pal.

So hold on to that edge. There's relationship, George. Exactly. And independent, George. No, you're more like, you're more like Al Pacino and Heat.

I gotta hold on to my edge. Keeps me sharp.

Now, here's the hypocrisy. I did not freak out about the Burns trade. I did not freak out about the Bucs loss to the Jazz. I did not freak out about the Badgers loss to Purdue. I think a lot of that energy for me.

went to this bullshit rock coming back and taking Cody Rhodes' spot. At WrestleMania. That's what I'm furious about.

So I still have the rage and the edge. It's just. Focused on the scripted thing and not the other stuff.

Well, hold on to it and definitely stay sharp. And I'm going to have to sign off as well. But love you guys. Hope to hear more from ya. All right, that's the Sean O'Connell.

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So, how are you doing with the brewers? You got your shirt on? You saw the new giveaways. I'm ready, yeah. Yeah, we're we're getting pretty excited.

I'm ready for opening day. Are you ready to park on opening day? Yeah, you texted me earlier and you're like, let's talk parking.

So I guess let's talk parking. The Brewers announced yesterday a state of the art parking system that utilizes license plate recognition technology to provide seamless entry into American Family Field parking lots.

So think of this like minority report, but with cars. Once you park in the parking lots. Fans with prepaid digital parking will activate their parking session By simply typing in their license plate on the ballpark app. If you purchase day of parking, you scan a QR code. Posted on signs in the lot.

or enter your license plate and payment information. This expedited process will help alleviate backups. that often occur during peak entry times. This is going to be a mess. Yeah.

Yeah. What was the point of this? What the parking. There's, there's, you know, everyone's going away from a cashless society. But parking, I feel, is one of the few things like you should pay in cash.

You should pay in cash. Let's still have cash being out. This is, I don't know.

So you part first and then you pay? That's sure what it sounds like. How do they know if you? I don't. Once you park in the parking lot.

Fans activate it by typing in. And if you purchase day of parking, you scan a QR code.

So it sounds like it's like. When you just park downtown. And type in your thing in MKE Park. At a meter. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. If I'm not going to be there long, sometimes I'm sometimes I roll the dice and risk it. Yep. And so Do people have the option to just be like? Are they gonna enforce this?

We're not gonna park here. Not gonna pay the brewers are 10 games under 500 in August. Are they really gonna forge this today? Yeah. Yeah.

It's a doubleheader. Hey game. Yeah, the lights went out. You know, a couple months ago, double header. Are they really going to risk this?

Yeah, yeah, I'm serious. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's already a pain to get in there to park. This just seems like it's going to be a mess. Huh?

You're gonna what? You're gonna look. I got a what? You're gonna hear a lot of that. I got a what?

What have what happened to just giving you some money? Yeah, there you there it is. No, this is like you can't You can't you can't introduce. Like, you thought paying for a playoff game on Peacock was crazy. You can't introduce this kind of technology.

Until Like 25 years. Yeah. Okay. Until people are until people have been familiar with this kind of technology for their whole life. And then even the you and me's of the world will be like, what is this?

Yeah, but then we'll still be like, oh, it's a QR.

Okay, okay. Yeah. Like, there's people, I'm telling you, there's people that. They're going to come to this ballpark. That don't know what a QR code is.

They should really practice with all the ushers and then see how that goes. Oh God. The m the the ushers at that stadium? I know. Like, why?

When I go to other ballparks, why is it our ballpark that has, like, just the old?

Sorry, the oldest ushers in the world. Yeah, I think the ushers at American Family, I think you legally have to be dead for six months. And then they dig you back up and inject you with some serum. And then you're an usher. Oh, Lord.

They never know what's going on. We're watching the TV, not realizing the game's actually behind them.

Some other new additions this year: a new scoreboard in right field, a brand new center. Yeah, a little disappointed that they don't have a scoreboard that faces the parking lot because that is the. crown jewel of That property is well, they put that feel they put that new scoreboard in the in the very wrong place, in the place that they don't need it. They need it on the like, like in Houston, on the third base, like against the those windows, those panels. They need it over there so people in the bleachers can actually see what's going on.

Because you got about 5,000 fans that can't see a scoreboard. Fans must purchase a day of parking or activate their prepaid parking before entering the ballpark. To avoid receiving a parking violation.

So it's tied to your ticket.

Okay. So, I think if they scan your ticket and you haven't parked. or you haven't paid for parking, you get a parking ticket. But what if you buy separate? I don't know.

The brewers will be in in uh it's Mm. I don't know. Do they have a home game? Are they doing an exhibition before opening day? This is not something you unveil on opening day.

Yep, opening day. Oh my God. We have a problem with our system right now. Yeah. You're going to have to pay for parking and then try and get a refund later on.

I didn't bring any money. I thought I'd do it on my phone.

Okay. All right, here's some comments on YouTube. Ken says: All I keep hearing from people defending this Burns trade is: don't worry, guys, it's still going to be a fun year. Nothing says fun like getting swept by the Cubs. Because we have no ace.

Uh Fuck council. Tim, you were in the dark, and Ken also thought you were running from your happy place, hemp Bill. Yeah. Gary says Hoskins is like Yasmani Grandal a good year and then he's gone. Yeah, don't go out and buy Hoskins jerseys.

No, go to the winter sale next year and buy all the Burns stuff. Yeah. Yeah, why they have to do that after the clubhouse thing? He also wants to know, Ken does, if you have any shakeaways. from the Pro Bowl.

Oh God no. Which had its lowest ratings ever. Bring back real football. I don't care how posit pop The bad it is. Just get rid of it, don't bring back real football.

I don't know if you've heard this man. Greg's been calling into the national show as Mr. Positive. He's in the house. Very nice.

Greg from Michigan. Go blue. Um Taylor says I am mentally prepping myself that Bobby Portis may not be a buck in the next 48 hours. That will be a tough one to take.

Well, if you want them to get better at defense then. They're going to have to trade someone like Bobby or Pat Conniton.

Now, I will react strongly if Grant Williams is a buck. In a good way or a bad way? Yeah. Grant Williams is a buck. You kidding me?

When Delavidova signed here, I was all upset because he played. Played well against the Warriors, and I was like, ah, and I talked to him. If Grant Williams signs here. That's like Pharrell getting a radio job in Milwaukee. I can't, I don't know what that means.

I can't, I can't. I can't cheer for Grant Williams. Might have to. Sal says the streets are saying Dame is washed. No, I got a great Dame stat for you guys.

A great dame stat. The Bucs have the Suns on Tuesday evening should be a very interesting game. Doc Rivers is coaching the all-star game, although he said he's not going, but. I haven't seen that uh official confirmation after that.

So I guess Prunty would coach. No, just give it to the Cleveland Cabs coach or something. Yeah, they're in second now. Bucks are 10 and 14. When Dame scores less than 25 points or doesn't play.

If he scores 25 points. They're twenty-three and three. All right. So we just need Dame to score points. We need we need dame to take enough shots.

We need Brooke Lopez in Portland. not to look at dame And then choose. to take the three ball himself to try to win the game. Maybe one of the dumber decisions I have seen. In my time as a Bucks fan.

Taylor also says the national sports media seems to shit on the Bucs no matter what they do or don't do. It's obnoxious but par for the course.

Well, that's why I took the job. Yeah. to combat that. Because the Bucs are held to a different standard. They are.

I don't know why. But they are. Maybe they're like the Brock Purdy of NBA. Because nobody thinks that they, nobody knew who Giannis was. Nobody thinks they should be good.

They see him win, they still don't believe it. And I've been shitting all over Brock Purdy. Yeah. I've said he's good, but He ain't. Super Bowl good?

Well, maybe he is. We'll find out in five days. Tyler says, Trading burns does not mean the Brewers are rebuilding. The offseason isn't over. This isn't rocket science, guys.

Yeah, I still think if they trade Burns first. People are like, oh, well, he was going to be gone anyway, and we got these other guys. And then if they sign Hoskins. Then we're like, oh, all right, let's go. But they signed Hoskins, which was so out of the ordinary.

And for Mark's sake, Like He's not as rich as some of these other owners. I mean, they couldn't even afford you. Damn right. But Um It is hard for a Brewers fan to see him constantly investing in other things. I know you got to diversify your portfolio, but.

He's spending money on soccer and golf and All this other stuff, and it's like, I mean. Could that have been brewer money or how does that work? We don't know. Checkbook.

So we don't know. How else have you been, Tim? Good. Yeah. Just burning the midnight oil over at CES 58.

What are we doing our Tupelo honey date? Yeah, we got to do that. I keep looking at these cards here. Being like, yeah, I mean, I need to go out with him. Yeah.

Maybe we'll do it this week, maybe Thursday. Ah, Thursday, mm, maybe. I am uh off on Friday. Oh. Yeah.

House. I took off the Friday before the Super Bowl like a real dork. Yeah, okay. Might be going to the Bucks game. Oh, very nice.

Yeah. There you go. It's a buddy's 40th birthday extravaganza. I was gonna say I didn't get the invite.

Well, maybe you could go. Sure. It's up, Pop.

Okay. It's in it's in like a party box. I don't. Oh, okay. I thought you meant like in the just in the upper deck.

I'm like, I don't sit up there. No, I had to pay. Very nice. Good for you. I had to pay.

Ken says, What are the odds Taylor Swift does a running on Usher this Sunday? You know how many calls I took last night from people that thought the NFL was rigged? Like serious calls? Mm-hmm. Let me guess, or the alpha from like Florida and Texas?

Wow. Tim, I don't know what you infer by that. No, they were all from Baltimore because they were pissed the Ravens lost. Oh, okay. But even Lions fans are like, I mean, it's not rigged.

We just, that sucks. And Ravens fans are like, We only ran the ball six times. M Shark says Brock Purdy is Eli Manning. Ooh, that's a very good comparison, actually. Jared says Tupelo honey is fire emoji.

Texas Badger says, Don't say shit about Texas Fat Man. Yeah. Uh There it is, Texas with the low blow. Just Wow, okay. Which one of us are you talking about?

Sounds like someone familiar to me. Yeah. Who who could he possibly be talking about? You or me? I'm serious.

Yeah, I guess. I'll show my gut if I have to. Talking about me. Yeah. Okay, uh Bart Jim Journey.

I feel like that was a storyline. I signed up for the gym December 15th. How many times do you think I've been there?

Well, you went that once. I'm gonna say still once. Five times. Oh, very nice. Four more times than I thought.

Five times. But then I did want, see, it's not just about buying the gym membership. Mm-hmm. It's about taking a step. And I did, I was going to go to the gym one day, but it was nice.

So I walked outside instead.

Okay. I've also been trying to intermittent fast. Yeah. Um still haven't stopped at Taco Bell on your way home?

Okay. I stopped there once pre-show. Oh, okay. Well, that's dinner. They were closed.

What? They got they go. Welcome to Taco Bell. We apologize, we are not taking new orders right now. It's eight o'clock.

Yeah. Look at you going in an hour early to prepare. Oh yeah, I sit down, I get a coffee, I Boy, I wish we had that back back back in the twelve fifty days.

Well, I mean, it's a little different. I mean. I'm coming in after a day of just like. I just wait to go to work all day. I thought about adjusting my schedule so I woke up at like seven at night.

Uh-huh. Waiting to go to work is it's different. It's different. Texas Badger says that you should come down and block the border all by yourself. Oh, okay.

Yeah. What are we doing? Get out of here.

Okay. This is not. What are we doing? I constantly run. from any of this and then you guys all want to start it up again.

That was the thing. But I'm the bad guy because I told you to wear a mask for two months. Uh Tyler says Brewers, essentially the same team from last year with a better offense. And they're winning seventy five games just because Burns is gone? LOL.

Come on. Yeah, I don't know that we're a playoff team, but what did the Diamondbacks have? 84 wins?

Something like that, eighty six. I I don't know like And again, I'm not. Trying to be a homer. In fact, I think I hate baseball, but This Brewers team could easily win 84 games. I guess.

Am I wrong? I mean, I guess. What about your guy, Jake Junas? They said Jake, Jake Junas. They signed who I previously know from picking up and cutting Five to six different times when he was a two-star pitcher.

In fantasy baseball.

Okay. And they would always have a terrible ERA. Jake Junis. I mean, I guess I just, you know, their pitching is kind of, oh, I don't know, not good now. Or it's on and I guess it's uh What's the word I'm looking for?

Not proven. Bad. Bad. Well, I guess. I mean, what's our rotation?

Peralta, Miley? Is that Is what's Joe Ross? What about Ashby? When's he coming? Yeah, that's this year, right?

I thought someone say the brewers either have Seven starters or Freddy and six relievers. Six longer levers. I just don't want to be playing that bullpen game come game three or game four of the year. Where it's like, well, we're going to have a getter. What do they call them?

An out-getter? And. Then go play each inning by your name. I just feel like, and maybe, again, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm out of touch, maybe I'm, but I feel like this was. Like this is a year Rebuilding.

Am I wrong? You've got expiring contracts. You've got Guys, you've got six of the athletics' top 100 prospects, the most in baseball. Churio, you signed to a long-term deal. Jefferson Quero, the catcher, and you already have a great one.

We'll see what Tyler Black becomes. Joey Ortiz is listed in there. He just traded for him. Brock Wilkin is at single A. And Jacob Mizarowski is turning heads.

I don't I don't just I don't see it. Like we we go into every year Expecting a championship. And I mean, that is the goal. But I didn't do that with the Packers this year, and I had a grand old time. And I'm certainly not going to do it with the Brewers.

I'm already exerting that energy in the Bucs. What, are we just gonna sit here every year and be like, well, I hope they make the playoffs, but once the playoffs start, you know, they're gonna. Barely get past the first round, and we'll be happy with the second round exit. Off we go into the offseason.

Well, then, what do you do about these other teams, like the Dodgers? I don't know. I don't know. There's nothing. There's nothing.

Here's the thing: there's nothing we can do. I feel like Or you have to be like Arizona. And just get in and go on and run. This is maybe Bruce can't do that. Dwayne with the We Want Cody hashtag.

Hell yeah. This press conference tomorrow or Thursday is going to be bonkers. And it's in Vegas where the Super Bowl is. What press conference? Oh, there's going to be a WWE press conference to announce all these matches, and it's in Vegas.

And you know what else is in Vegas this week? Live golf. Let me go read the uh the cliff notes of the you know, the the the the season guide and catch up, I guess. Here's, I think, what 'Cause I I've been talking about me falling out of love with baseball. For a while, and somebody had shared the Brandon Woodruff home run, which was great.

And it got me thinking, well, back in 2018 like With all these Packer losses or Bucs losses or whatever. When Chris Taylor caught that ball. You knew that they weren't getting anywhere that year. You also knew it was never going to happen. I've just gotten to the point of maybe nihilistic.

Uh baseball fan. I'm never going to come into a season. Expecting that the Brewers can win a World Series.

So if I don't have the Expectation, I won't have the disappointment. I'm going to treat the Brewers as what they are. To me now. Entertainment.

Something to get excited about, talk about. Couple nights a week, watch game. Go to a game with some buddies. It's started to get my kid bond with him. You know, have him have fun at the ballpark.

I'm going to save all my. Desperate. We need to win this. For the Packers. I've got a lot of that invested into the Bucs right now.

Oh god, if they would win, it'd be so, so sweet. But I I just I don't know that I can do that with the Brewers. Not just because of Their situation, but baseball as a whole. Like the fact that anybody is trying to decide Are we a World Series team? We're never a World Series team.

We can get into the playoffs and then somehow get to the World Series because it's baseball. But we're never, Milwaukee is never going to build. A World Series favorite. or true contender. And that's maybe my viewpoint is different than yours, but that's.

What I've realized to myself. And so that's what I have to think. I honestly thought last year, going into last year, they were a World Series contender. Yeah. I thought it in 2014.

I thought it in 18. I thought it in. 19, I thought it in 21, I thought it in 22, I thought it in 23. Is this the first year you're not, obviously? I mean What w I've just accepted.

that in my life I'll probably never see the Brewers in a World Series. True. And so that's why I'm not going to give. Bent out of shape about trading a pitcher. With one year left on his deal.

And I know that, like, that's we'd love to be the Orioles who used to be bad, but now are good. But we'd love to deal from a position of strength, and maybe someday again we will because we've got a good. Farm system. And that's what bugs me is that they just didn't that one year didn't go for it all. Yeah, like bring in another picture.

Rebuild. Yeah. Like, what's wrong with that? They should have done more. Who freaking cares if you're going to be bad for 10 years?

At least you got that World Series. Because now, looking back at the Stearns era, all that we really remember is 2018. And would they be really that bad? Is Mark like. That poor?

I bet they wouldn't hit rock bottom, but they'd get a couple good drafts. Draft pics. Maybe, you know. Maybe one year under 500, you know, really bad, but. Let's be real.

I don't if they would have done what The Marlins did years ago, and what Baltimore is doing right now. I don't think they would have hit rock bottom. My opinion. Yeah. But This is what you're going to get.

You're not going to get a World Series with this team then. You'll just get mediocre play, win a division. That's bad. Right now, it's bad. Sure, great.

They win a division. We're gonna get we're gonna be like the Braves winning, you know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen divisions and tapering out so Whatever. Um Okay, so Super Bowl pick Uh give me the chiefs. I got a bad feeling that uh The Niners win. Is it really a bad feeling though?

The Chiefs are starting to become Like the Patriots.

Well, the Niners beat us. Niners beat us. Yeah, I get that point. I've been trying to tell people that Brock Purdy's not as good as they think. And then he I'm trying to expose Kyle Shanahan as a big game choker.

So then did you want the Chiefs? That's fine. Yeah, and the reason I like last year's Super Bowl so much is we didn't make the playoffs. I didn't really have a rooting interest between the Chiefs and Eagles. I just watched the game.

Yeah. I'm just kind of like tired of uh. Watching the Super Bowl. And needing a team to lose.

Now I know I know you know This is past the Super Bowl. I know we'll play the gushing game of what games do you think the Packers get, but I think they open the season in Philadelphia.

Well, I guess in Brazil. Yeah, they're I think it's them or Pittsburgh.

Okay. Yeah, you got to save that Pittsburgh game for, you know, the Battle of Pennsylvania. I don't know. We'll see. You got Cone Roller.

Oh. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Good afternoon, Brother Matt. Hey, Cohen. Yeah.

Based the bit. Yeah. Sorry, I had to do that. Yeah, I gotta end soon so I can listen. Oh.

True. Yeah, I got 13 minutes here. What do we think of these brewers' moves? I don't know. Have you been watching the show?

God No, Khan's a busy guy. Please. I'm on my lunch. I basically just said I've given up on the fact that the Brewers will ever win a World Series in my lifetime. I don't think so.

I don't blame him for moving off of Corbin. I think it was a good choice. I don't mind it. I think people got freaked out 'cause They made a contending type move. And then they made a rebuilding type move.

I think if they swap the order. It's all about timing, right? I just feel like, Cohen, I feel like, you know, I'm at a I'm at a I'm trying to look within because I got. Brewers fans freaking out about this Corbin deal. I got Bucks fans freaking out about a loss.

Every loss. I don't know. Badgers fans freaking out about a loss to Purdue. Big deal. I mean, The expectation that has happened in this state where we need to win every game all the time by 30.

I don't know when we got so entitled, but it's really bothering me. Yeah, that tough week for Badger basketball, dropping, you know, blowing a lead against Nebraska on the road and then, you know, obviously the Purdue game. Tough week for the boys. They're up to or they're down to number eleven now in the AP poll. I think that's fair.

I think that's fair after this past week. big game tomorrow against Michigan. That should that's a scheduled win. Very big win tomorrow. Or very big games of Margot.

What is Marquette ranked? Marquette's ranked seventh and fifth. They are actually in Joe Lenardi's. Bracketology, they are the two-seed, and the Badgers are the three-seed. Yeah, I see.

line so on the same bracket Well, for them to play, that would require Marquette getting to the second weekend. I don't Okay. Yeah, what would that what would that be like a tournament game between the two? Awesome. I would love that.

I would hate it. Mm-hmm. I think it would be good. I think it would be good for the state's economy. The only matchup I plot is for them to play for a national championship.

And who would you roll? In a national championship. The Bazers, come on. All right, good. Just making sure.

I don't know, you got Marquette colors on today. They're brew crew, baby. Mm. I don't know. I'm repping Wisconsin.

Just got a Wisconsin-Milwaukee just got a big win over IUPUI.

So, yeah, but you know what? That conference, go Green Bay, go the Phoenix. Are they still in first in the conference? They are. Let's go.

They are. You guys bailed on me for Green Bay.

Sorry, but look at that turnaround. They win three games all last year, and this year. They're fighting for an NCA bid.

Okay. Well, again, it's a one big league. One big league. Get the one seed. Get the double buy.

Panthers only 12 and 11, though. I thought they'd be a little better. I thought they would too. Is Bart Lundy on the hot seat? I don't I don't wanna start the rumors.

I'm just checking the pollen rules. But the Lord know.

Well Bart Lundy needs the He should have coached the Bucs. He's got a chance at getting Connor Siege in next year, I think. And maybe Gus Bucks. Yeah. You think so?

No, stop that. I don't know. College, you gotta recruit you gotta recruit your own guys. Yeah, that is c college sports is just it's You know, it was dirty before and now it's even dirtier.

Well, because everyone is the center of their own story again. It's like Any prospect you have to cater to. A thousand percent. It's kind of like AAU culture. has seeped its way into the NCAA.

Yeah. Like, what are you going to do about it? Players should have the freedom, and this is their life, but. And as a product, it's been fine. But for the I just don't understand why anyone would want to be a college coach.

and still think that they can pull off some work-life balance. You can't even do. uh coach recruit balance.

So you're constantly. Oh, it just it just sounds awful. I think you got to go the way of like what some of the big 10 coaches do, where you know, Greg Gard recruits his own son. Maybe that's how they spend time together. You know, Fran McCaffrey has had his kids at Iowa forever.

So these guys need to start j just have kids? I think so. If they want to spend time with their family, the only time they can is by recruiting them or adding them to their staff. Yeah. We always used to joke that my dad's favorite kid was whoever was on his soccer team that year.

Sorry, Dad. Then it wasn't me because I was ass.

Now, Bart, you're only a father of one, but do you have a boy?

So, yeah, so you're hardly a father at all. But, um, Do you think the thing of like, oh, I love all my kids equally is true? Or is that BS? I I can't. I can't speak on that, but.

I can't imagine it's true. We gotta get Wicked in here with his three kids to answer the question. Especially now like I've spent so much time with my kid. And he's he's my he's everything. And then if we had another kid, I'd be like.

Oh. Yeah. So if I ever have another kid, I'm going to delete this video. Hell yeah. But I think you always look at it in terms of, I don't know.

I think it would have to. I think it'd be helpful if it was another girl, or if it was a girl, because then I could be a real dad. And then I could have like. Oh, I got my son and my daughter. But otherwise it'd be like You just have a son and like a different version of your son.

So me with three brothers, I mean Who's the favorite? Whoever called last, probably. Yeah. Or the youngest is usually the favorite in a big family. Yeah, young yeah, youngest.

Yeah. I would hope oldest as which I am, but. What Well, I think it's either the oldest or the youngest. I think middle child, you're just screwed from the get-go. What do we think of the Whit Merrifield Jr.

signing? Good for baseball, bad for baseball, good for the Royals. What say you? No, I hate to correct you, but you're thinking of Bobby Witt. Bobby Witt.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. I don't like that some reporters looked at the Jackson Churio deal and thought this is disgusting and bad, and then looked at the Bobby Witt deal and thought this is. Beautiful. Ken Rosenthal.

The Curio deal is much better in hindsight now. with that this royals deal.

Well, yeah, Bobby Litt has time in Major League Baseball. That's the difference. Yeah, but if you're going to sign a guy to like years of extension, you might as well just take a shot at it early because I don't know how the Royals are going to compete for the next 10 years. They cannot they're okay. completely by this contract.

They won't. Exactly. So like, what are they doing? They're just signing up for another 10 years of mediocrity.

Well, then all their fans are like, look at this, we can compete. But then who else are they going to sign? It's like us with Yellich. Zach Granke, of course. I'd take him back.

I take him back. He wants to pay it. I mean, the starting lineup right now is not looking great. Starting rotation for the Brewers. Freddy as a one.

I love Freddy, but Is he one? I don't think so. Cone, are are people getting excited in Arizona? It's it's spring training time. Like, this is this is your time to shine.

This is your people's time to shine. Yeah, we got quite a couple events coming up. We got uh the waste management open all this week and weekend, going to see Kaigo on Saturday night. What about tonight, Colin, Bucks game? Tonight, we got the Bucks in town.

Are you gone? Yeah, tentative right now. he ain't going he ain't going i might have boots i'll let you know if i got boots Let's get some boots. Call into the Bart Winkler show tonight on CBS Sports Radio. After I mean, after hearing that guy peddle some crazy Taylor Swift conspiracies last night, I don't know.

One guy called him and said he's never heard of Taylor Swift. I did hear that as well. I guess he lives in like the Rocky Mountains or the Smoky Mountains. I don't get how these two things are possible, where you've one, never heard of Taylor Swift. But you're calling national CBS radio.

Those don't match up. Did you hear the guy from Wyoming? He was like. Yeah, I I he I think they're gonna start calling the Kansas City Swifts. He loved that one.

And then I I'm dying because I'm thinking this guy can't find an open mic. within 150 miles, so he's got to call the radio show. Yeah. Try out his comedy. Oh, we have fun.

We have fun there on the old CBS. The Final Four is also in Phoenix this year.

So, Badgers make it. you will absolutely have boots on the ground. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. You need to get yourself down on the court. Get a hold of one of those students' seats.

I got to get like, I got to reach out to somebody that's got connections. Yeah. Problem with Phoenix is, again, it's so sprawled out that you can't just go to a Sun's game. You got to like. It's like 90 miles away.

Yeah, it's definitely, you know. An urbanist words nightmare out here. It is. A city built for the automobile. That's disgusting.

Okay. It is disgusting. Yeah. Oh, I couldn't I everywhere we wanted to go was 25 minutes away. Yeah, just how the world works, you know.

What are you going to do about it?

Well, America didn't used to be that way. We used to be kind of like Europe in terms of the. But then the car came and We bow down to our overlords. Here's a question from Matt. He says: I hate the Niners with a passion of a thousand sons.

Where do Packer fans land on Niners' most hated rival? Are they worse than the Vikings, worse than the Bears?

Well, the problem is they're like the one team that's had consistent postseason success against us, and that's when feelings are amplified.

So they are. Up there, I feel like there are other division rivals that's in Detroit's like whatever Detroit is. As rooting for Detroit. Is is Green Bay, San Francisco even a rivalry if they just kick our ass all the time? No, maybe not.

It's like they're just our older brother, our daddies. Yeah, it's like when the Bucs play the pistons. I mean, who cares? But oh, they always beat us.

Well then we're gonna beat you again.

Okay. Now that you've seen a couple games of Doc Rivers, are you more confident or less confident? in this team, you know, winning the championship than you were with Adrian Griffin. I still feel like the team, as constructed, could have won a championship. Um It just doesn't seem like they are.

It seems like they're cool with like a 20 game schedule. I don't know. This team is. They're just not it. They're just like, I'm not sure they like playing basketball right now.

It's a weird, it's a weird year. Like the other night watching the game. Doc Rivers is our head coach.

Okay. And we have Damian Lillard. Could you have imagined that in June? You'd be like, what would have to have happened for that to occur? That is pretty crazy.

Here we are. All right, well, I think I'm good. Yeah, time to taste the goodness of the biscuit with the honey sauce.

So. Yeah. Newbie Tuesday. It is a newbie Tuesday. Should I call in?

No. Oh. Last one. Did you say that? I'm a national get.

I you know what? They should be calling you. Yeah, I'd go on. I got two last things to End with one, why aren't you at Radio Row? And number two.

Did you see Mike Clemens? shave at you last night on Twitter. Great response part, by the way. Yeah, I haven't heard from Clemens in a while. I'm blocked by Clemens.

What? That's how. That does not surprise me one bit.

Okay. Clemens said. I see Bart Winkler at Radio Row. It's Carrot Top. Fantastic.

Ugh. Q's on a walk. What are you doing? What's up guys? I've been listening.

I just. Wanted to call in and say hi since we only do this once a week now.

Well, break news. Trade deadline special this Thursday. Oh, nice.

So Is that force control? When is the trade deadline? Two central. Is Rami going live as well during that? Yeah.

Oh yeah, maybe, is he? He's kind of trying to steal your audience a little bit. He's trying to steal your niche.

Well, it's open, so take it. That's fair. I can't do this every day anymore. NBA trade deadline time. 3 p.m.

Eastern, so 2 o'clock. Who's had for? 2 o'clock, all right? I had to turn my camera off, I was having connection issues. Oh, we don't really care.

Uh Jay Garris says I dumped you quick. No, no. I got I got the NBA trade deadline special. How about we fire it up at 1:30 on Thursday? That would be great.

Hopefully we made at least one trade. 130 Central, I'll plan for unless we make a trade earlier. I'm not too enamored by any of these trade. Like These potential trades, I don't really I hate them. Hate them all.

I don't really see anyone I'm interested in. I don't want wiggins. No, you don't. Yes, I do.

Okay. I don't think we're like a. We're not like a Bruce Brown away from a title, you guys. Yeah. I think if we have to trade Bobby, I don't want to trade him for a guard.

I want at least a small forward.

So I like I like Grant Williams.

So I like Wiggins I If Grant Williams unlocked for Murray. Why? I don't like him. But I feel like he'll be the guy that everyone hates on our team. Like, you didn't like Grayson Allen before he was our guy.

Yeah, but he's the Grayson and That was different. I don't know. I would love to see Grant Williams go up against His former team in the Celtics. Oh god. No, it it feel it would feel like Colton Wong all over again.

Look at me, I'm on the other team now. Ha ha ha. That so At least the Bucs have two championships. The Brewers have zero. I think Colton Wong was my least favorite brewer ever.

Why? Because he never really cared about being here. True, you're right. What are we? An hour in?

I'm trying to dick around with the format here. Yeah, an hour four. Talk once, Tim. Hello, Bart. No, I want to get it so you're.

Mm. When you start talking when I talk, I'm the big screen then. Yeah. Do I need to be sideways then? No, okay.

I gotta figure that out. Yeah, figure this out. Come on, you you've only been doing this for over a year now. Yeah, I still got to get a new background that says Winklerverse. A new flag, too.

Well, you need a break. I still would like to do that. Yep. Or uh Yeah. Let's do the day after opening day.

We got to figure out if they know how to park everybody first. I don't know. Yeah, everybody has to use a new parking system, and everybody has to go in at once. And here. All right, crew.

All right, thanks, Bart. See it to be a bit more. Um Oh, my mouse just died, so I'm gonna Close it out anyway. Tim Shea, ladies and gentlemen. Always a pleasure, Bart.

Always a pleasure. Trade deadline show on Thursday. We'll do one. In the afternoon. See what the bucks do.

Until then. Thanks for stopping into the Winklerverse. Go brewers.