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Welcome into the Winkler Verse. I'm Bart Winkler. Giannis has been traded to the Miami Heat. When I title this live reaction. This is as live reaction as it's going to get.

I'll put the link up if anyone wants to join. This is the Winklerverse. We are a Wisconsin-based podcast. Obviously, we do not like the fact that Giannis was traded to the Heat. Uh we do not like the fact that it was the heat.

I want to tell you right now. At about 10.30, I was watching Jordan vs. Algeria. And I went downstairs to do some stuff in the basement. I'm trying to clean up.

my basement. And I was down here without my laptop and without my phone. And I thought Could it be possible that after guarding my phone the entire day Giannis will be traded when I'm. Just dicking around. cleaning stuff up I thought, no, no, no, that's not the case.

Then I went upstairs. I saw I had a bunch of text. And I saw an alert from the athletic. Giannis traded to the heat. I want to tell you right now.

That is all I know. I don't know anything else. As of right now. I don't know anything. I went upstairs, I saw my phone.

He was traded to the heat. I'm Two minutes into processing this. Don't love it. Kind of glad he's not with Boston. Really mad he's not with, or really mad he's with the heat.

A little more okay with the fact that he's with the heat because they're going to fuck it up. Pat Riley ain't doing shit. I should also, wild disclaimer. I've already had one of these. I thought I might be in the clear.

So we had a happy place, hemp. Uh T H C Citrus seltzer. I've already had one. And I will have another during. But This will kick in soon.

So I know jack shit.

So let me look at some of my text. Um, let's see. Emergency pot, are you okay? Are you up? Thoughts?

Everything sucks. Uh sad face.

Okay, so let me now see what the fuck is going on. When I say live reaction. I truly do mean it.

Okay, so Bobby Portis is in the deal. He followed one of the heat places earlier today. I should have known. All right, the Bucs traded. This is from the athletic.

Eric Name and Sam Amek is what I'm going to be reading from here. Again, the link is posted. If you want to join. Just a couple of Thoughts already? Wander says, make it make sense.

Ryan says boo. Johnny says, sad night. Uh Miggy says that return is dog shit. Dave says it's a weak trade. The childish one says, Legends don't chase, they attract.

Miggy says, Portland could have given you the best package. Um Yeah, I would have been fine with the Portland package. Just texting some of my guys if they want to join. Bart, how is this better for Giannis? The roster in Miami can't shoot.

That's from Brett. Matt says this didn't need to happen. Peter says this sucks, Bart. Rob says, holy shit, it actually happened. Jake says legends don't trace they attract fuck out of here you hypo Hypocritical, passive, aggressive, pussy.

Midwest baller says, wow. If they got where, I could have gotten down with it. I think they did get where. I'm just reading the headline. Carl's play says, I'm cool with this trade of heroes.

Dad comes with the package. Jeans is not winning in Miami. Worst part of all this is Shams finally got credit for being right. T I'm going to say this. And now I probably shouldn't say this.

Sam's can suck mine. I and I you get it. It's that's far enough. I I hate 'em. Hope he doesn't win.

Dick bucks in six. I hate him. He's been doing this for six years. God, I fucking hate him. Good.

Oh, good riddance, Denbo Kubo Brothers. I have a great tweet. I have a hold on. Hold on. I'm going to bring in Sad Q.

I have a great tweet. A week ago, when I went to Tom's watch bar, where I'm doing my World Cup promotions. And I've sold. One ticket.

So, if anyone wants to go reserve a spot of Tom's for any of these World Cup games, you can. But a week ago, I took a picture. of the Adeta Cumpo bros Building. And I've already mocked it up with a spirit Halloween. Yeah.

So I need to find that right now. I've been waiting for this. I need to find that shit right now and I need to tweet that. Q, before I get into you. That sounded gross, but I also told shams to suck it.

The package is, what's the package here? Tyler Hero. Kellel Ware. Jaime Hakis Jr. Uh what's the kid from Illinois' name, Jak?

Whatever. Three first-round picks, a first-round pick swap, and one second-round pick. And we got rid of portis. They could have done worse than that on first blush. I mean They could have done.

Grant, did you listen to Grant's show at all today? Today was the one day I ever missed. He listed off like the last twenty, thirteenth overall picks. Wow. There wasn't a single one that you've ever heard of.

There was like maybe one guy. There You heard of ever.

So I don't know. I. Like Kalelware would have been a good ad. Had we drafted him to pair him with Giannis, um. This is, I mean, honestly, it didn't matter what the trade package was.

I think we all would have been a little disappointed. Like, this is a sad day and. in Milwaukee sports history. Um and like type of thing. There's Jake.

I don't know where the fuck he is. He's He's in his car. Keep going on though. Keep going on, Q. Yeah, I I I just Okay.

I can't see. Tyler Hero fetching us much at any point. I think. I could have. I could have.

Sold myself. on the Jalen Brown like Retribution tour. But I don't know. I'm not a big fan of Hero. Maybe he'll surprise me.

But Hold on to that thought. The most important thing is. What's the caption I should use for this? That was fast. Is that enough?

Okay. That was fast. Wow, that was fast. Is that enough?

Yeah, less is more.

So that's a I just tweeted and deleted it because it said, holy, can we take a timeout? Is this this happened? Holy shit. This, like, it's just hitting me. What the fuck?

I guess. That's the silver lining is we don't have to talk about it potentially happening anymore. I'm just going to give it a while. That was quick. Did you know Spencer's and.

Halloween Spirit are related, like they're the same company. You know, Spirit Halloween is the biggest fucking scam on this universe. They are the worst company to deal with. Does anyone not remember my Spirit Halloween saga? I don't.

I tried to return. I had a banana costume that looked like a cock. Yeah.

I was gonna wear it to a kid's party. Thanks, buddy. I needed that. I could. I don't know.

You know what I need? Since this is going to be one of my all-time pods, since there's already. Fucking 800 people here. Let's chip into the pod tonight and help me with this tailgate. I gotta buy food and shit.

Yeah, everybody. Get those YouTube dollars running, folks. Thursday, August 6th. Is that the right date? Yeah.

This tweet, by the way. This better be a absolute. Fucking banger. This better, this better be. This better be an Elon Millionaire tweet.

So here's what I'll say, Bart. I don't think anybody knows. Yeah, but nobody knows where that store was to begin with. Yeah, that's a problem. What?

The problem is it has been a spirit Halloween in the last fucking year. Like, it's an amazing concept, but like, I'm a big Bucks fan. Never knew where that store was.

Well, they're gonna need that store to stay in business 'cause you know Miami has a respectable front office and ownership group so You know, Deonta de Coompro brothers are going to need a place to work. They're going to need a cashier, a stockboy, you know. No, 800's not a record tack. But I've been doing these lies and I've been like Piddling my piss. At 11 on a Monday afternoon.

We're going to get Packers. out of the playoffs fucking numbers here. Mm. Yeah.

And I almost missed it. Did you guys? I was upstairs watching soccer. I came downstairs for 20 minutes. I was getting some real work done in this basement.

I was like, look at this. I was getting some real fucking work done over there. And then I thought, wouldn't it be funny if Giannis got traded the 20 minutes of the day I didn't have my phone attached to me? I mean, Justin said it was Justin Garcia. Friend of the pod said it was going to happen at 10:30, so I stayed up.

What does this mean? Carl gifted 20 memberships. Yeah.

I'll take it. Carl, you know I love you. Whatever that means, we love it. This is Carl's place. Would someone buy a fucking golf simulator, please?

So we did make that happen tonight. We get number 13. I'm in the fucking lake without this man. We get Two other firsts and a swap. Hmm.

And Khalil Ware? And What else? Hold on. Why do we still have Thanassus on this fucking roster? Yeah, Thanassis and.

Alex? Oh. Yeah, the member. All right, Hot. All right.

I don't know what is fucking going on. Yeah.

Jake, where's your head at with this? Um Uh it's funny, you know, I'm I'm Laying in bed, I'm not sure. Yeah.

On a emotional level. To break this trait, or not to break it, but to Talk about this trade. And have Q and Jake here. I think is very fitting. Very appreciative of you both for your support.

There's no two people I'd rather have by my side right now than you guys. See Yeah, it is a full circle COVID moment. Go on, Jude.

So, well, yeah, I mean, I'm literally, I'm laying in bed. I'm refreshing. I'm refreshing. I'm looking at real GM and I'm like, all right, you know what? Let's just go to bed.

You know, the phone charger P was about to go into the iPhone V. And all of a sudden my phone just blows up. And I found that. I felt I feel sick, like Um I guess that on the surface I'm glad it wasn't Boston because Giannis isn't winning shit in Miami. They're going to have real issues constructing that roster.

Whereas with Boston, if you're mostly swapping him with Jalen Brown, they're winning the East next year with relative health.

So that I'm happy about because I think there's a much larger chance of it blowing up in Miami's face than Boston. And I like that Miami's dick or Jesus, Miami's deal was more pick centric.

So, like, again, those are mystery boxes that could be anything, it could be nothing, but I'll take the hope of something versus. Trying to rebuild around a 29 soon-to-be 30-year-old Jalen Brown. Um but it it's just I think what hurts the most is that You know, we grew up with Giannis, we watched him grow up, and we all thought we had the one in a billion guy that was different. And it turns out he was full of shit. Or eventually he developed into being the guy that was full of shit, that's just going to go chase it, just like every other diva star that.

We all thought he wasn't and Man, that sucks. I'm angry at him. I think he is not appreciative at all of all the shit that the organization did for him. They essentially did everything he asked for. And for a guy who claims to have Mamba mentality, you know, he worshiped the ground that Kobe walked on.

As soon as he sees a little bit of adversity, he dips out.

So, Giannis, I will boo you hard as shit. I will make a traitor sign for the first time Miami comes to town. Like, you're dead to me, buddy. That's all I got. He's dead to you.

He's dead to me. That's a little too far for me. Never thought it would be the same way with Favre. Never thought I would think that way about Rogers, Ryan Braun, but. I dunno, man.

I'm uh I'm built different, as the kids say. Here's a good one. We all knew we were screwed when we saw that Kelchy BS. I would like to. I would like to sick of calci.

Stop speaking my fucking calci. But I would like to separate. I would like to separate. The first 12 years of Giannis from this last year of Giannis. Whatever happened this last year of Giannis.

Is absolute garbage. Just absolute bullshit. Yeah.

He He did everything. I can't stop talking about this, but when he went to the fucking Super Bowl. Like. I was so fucking mad. Obviously, this whole year was building my brand.

And once Giannis decided my brand, he even, I think he tweeted, I was on his Instagram. I was on his Instagram. He said something about that on Instagram today. about his brand and I don't look I don't want to ride the avenue of Favre, yay, fuck you, Rogers, yay, fuck you. Right, Giannis, Jana, Giannis.

She's already Giannis now. 25% off, happyplaceemp.com. Cheers, boys. Mm, wish I had one of those myself. Mm-hmm.

I'm in a fucking white shirt, is how unprecedented. Normally, I try to pop my, and then I'm in my fucking worst hat, too. Um This whole last year was him about building his fucking brand. And it I mean, so. I'm happy for his agent.

I'm happy for His bank account, like Half of his income each year comes from Um Advertisements, and he'll be paying no state income tax on that. Um I but as design that he's with the heat and the heat fans and the The what's that fucking girl's name? The fucking shit girl that was always about this shit. Caitlin Bennett? No, no, no, no, no.

No, she's the one that shit herself. No, the one girl, not Trista Crick. Uh that other fucking girl. I have no idea. But now, I don't remember.

The heat have thought that this was going to be their destiny. for 10 years And now it happens, so I'm pissed about that. I want to grow the game so every kid can fall in love with soccer like I did.

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We have a celebrity sighting alert. Who could it be? Toby Altizer. Oh, Toby. Wouldn't quite go celebrity.

I mean, what up, DC? Tyler hero for the number one pick incoming. Yeah.

Yeah.

No no uh no interest whatsoever. None. $80 to the YouTube stream, and I will smash this across my fucking forehead. Don't do that. I Okay.

I gotta I gotta I got a 6:30 boarding time for a flight, so I'm going to cut this short. But, Toby, it is good to see you. Um the last thing I'll say is I do think this was the right decision given his injury history. I don't really love the trade pack. Ash Nicole Moss.

Ash Nicole Moss. Did she tweet? I'm not, I can't. I'm sorry, Q. I can't.

I need to not look at fucking Twitter because all these people are going to make me so fucking mad as I'm looking right now. Yeah.

Bart, if I will Venmo you... $50 to smash that thing. Uh, right now, I don't want you to do it on your forehead, but if you smash it, I will like, I've got your number, I'll VMO you. Just do it for me. Don't do that.

All right. So, what I was saying was. Giannis is habitually hurt and has habitually underperformed in the playoffs outside of 2021. This isn't a great trade package, but it's good enough. And I look forward to seeing what we can trade Tyler here for.

Toby, take it away. You know, honestly, I prefer this over the Celtics package from what I was seeing. By the way, my sweetass Spirit Halloween tweet is up to 900 views. I thought I'd. How many likes?

Sorry, Joe. Toby! Toby! Toby! Yeah.

Dude, it's crazy. I've been telling people out. We're an emotional night tonight. And I just said that nice about Q and Jake. And Toby, I'm so glad our paths have crossed.

You're an absolute pro. You're the fucking man. I love you, dude. I love you too, Bart. Appreciate it.

25% off. Happy place. Um Unless Jon Horst can hit on draft picks all of a sudden. This could look terrible.

Now I kinda don't mind the trade package, but at the same point If John Horst can't hit on draft picks, what does it matter? Was he going to draft more Barjon Beauchamps and Thon Makers? Toby, he's on the fucking Miami Heat. Dude, it sucks. It absolutely blows.

And it sucks that it was either the Heat or the Celtics. You know what sucks? You know what sucks? You know what sucks? It just sucks.

This whole thing sucks. The whole Giannis experi, I would almost not have had him. I would almost not have had him, not even have the championship, still be the shitty fucking franchise playing in a shitty dump at the stately manor on 4th and State because all these people have fucking swarmed us for 15 years saying you don't deserve it, you don't deserve it. And now they're going to take their victory laps. The media, that's my Rush Limbaugh impression.

Remember when he was on NFL primetime for a week? He goes, the media and Donovan McNett. I just always do that impression. Where did Jake go? But he's like, this sucks.

This fucking sucks. And it doesn't even suck because Giannis is gone. I've never been upset that Giannis is gone. I'm upset about people taking victory laps that are undeserved. I'm upset about people that are celebrating that are pieces of shit.

I'm just upset about all the peripheral. And I I just it sucks. It fucking sucks. It really sucks. Yeah, I mean You'll never forget what he was able to do in 2021 and the great player that he was, but it really sucks to see him have to go, especially to go to Miami.

Um That blows. I mean, it's a 20-33 second round pick we got. Yeah.

Thanks for the two. Andrew?

Next. Yeah.

I mean You know, it's one of those when you trade a player like Giannis, which we all knew was going to happen. It was just a matter of when, not if. When you trade a guy like Giannis, your franchise isn't going to look the same.

So, naturally, you know, it's a tough. Wanted to figure out how the heck this franchise is going to move forward when they've got a lot of guys they got back in the trade, they got a bunch of draft picks, but they got to start hitting on those a little bit better than they have recently. And I don't know, man. It's just tough to see him wear another uniform. And Bart, it's one of those things that.

really sucks where Um What Giannis did, and then now he's going to be playing in Miami. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. That blows. I mean, looking at that picture, they've been ready to go with that, and it just looks terrible. It looks awful.

So Shams, who's probably. Having an orgasm for the first time in his life tonight. Yeah.

Did you watch him on TV this morning? He was so bad. I mean, I did a hit on channel 12. And I go, I go, 'cause they played the clip before me had they had me on and I go. With all due respect.

And I mean this with all due respect. With all of the due respect.

Okay. Shams cannot speak on TV. Like, he would not get a weekend job in Wausau. And so the pictures that I was tweeting with Derek Rose, he's like, what is happening? That's what I was saying.

I was like, this guy can't fucking talk. He's awful. I am ripped on two of these. This is my third, and I can fucking say sentences. Yeah.

But Sean gets on TV and he's like, Miami. Yeah.

Yeah, he's awful. I'm glad that I don't have to deal with him talking about Giannis leaving Milwaukee anymore. Like it's It's over. It sucks. But at least I don't have to get that.

Weekly tweet. In the middle of the offseason. I'm sorry, I fell asleep. What did you say? Just kidding.

So you're you're gonna go check out Intedacoon Bros tomorrow and buy a bunch of gear? I bet you by tomorrow that sign is down. The heat are sending uh Two Milwaukee unprotected first rounders in 2031 and 2033. Along with number 13. A pick swap in 2030 and a 2033 second rounder.

The trade does not include, fucking, they could expand it. Toby, have you met Andrew Wagner? You know Andrew? He's here. He's joining.

I know of Andrew Wagner. I don't know if I've ever heard of it. Andrew, Toby, Toby, Andrew? What are you doing? I didn't know you had me on already.

That was a cigarette. I was joining the home. I'm uh I'm joining Bart tonight. Stop the Got the whiskey. Hmm.

The only thing that sucks about this, well, number one. Have we verified? Does this mean we are free of the assistance? Like, are we done with this schmuck now?

Well, I like the NASA, but. I don't know. His podcast kind of jumped the shark when Ric Flair was there. I hope Miami has to sign both of those two brothers and waste the roster spots that the Bucs have had to waste on those clowns the last couple weeks. They don't.

That is such bullshit. If they don't have to waste roster spots, thanks, Jake. If they don't have to waste roster spots. On uh I should read the ESPN story. Shams wrote the whole thing, recapped all the tweets.

Shams, I hate him. I fucking understand him. I wanted to message you when I saw the clip of his TV show the other day. And my joke is going to be: he sounds worse than you in lacrosse. Like, he is God awful.

He can't talk. Like, God bless him. His battle against the spoken word is an epic struggle of mankind. And I don't need, like, some people don't get it on TV.

Some people, you know, the talking's not for them. I'm not trying to be that guy. But you are the main guy. Go to a fucking broadcasting class. Yeah.

That dude is just, and you know what? I'm calling bullshit. There's no way, like, everyone's like, read Sham's story. He didn't write that story. The editors on the desk in Bristol write his copy for him.

He sends over the stuff that dude can't write. He's never been able to write. All he's ever wanted to be is a text jockey. And that's it. He just sits there and schmoozes agents and gets the dish and befriends these insiders and.

plays off information for for friendly coverage. And I hate the fact that he was the one that broke this. Like, that's the worst part of this whole thing. Yeah, he started. Why are you doing up to so pissed?

Because no one knows where that store is or what that store is. Like, has anyone actually shopped there? Has anyone ever bought anything from that place? The only time anyone ever went was when Giannis was there and he signed like. There was like 400 people there and he signed for the first 19 people.

Yeah.

And then he left. And they're like, oh, Alex will take care of the rest. I just want to go on the record as saying that. The two greatest Players, talents, stars in the history of the Bucks organization. both forced their way.

Out of Milwaukee. And I called it years ago when they were parading Kareem around, and Giannis is buddying up to him. They're like, he's going to be the next Kareem. And I said, remember how that ended. or study how that ended learn how that ended Definitely not something that you want to see happen again.

And look what happened again. Donnis forces his way out of Milwaukee. Everything that he said about this being, remember that game earlier this year? I think it was the Knicks, where he had that big plan and he screamed, This is my fucking city. And every dork on Twitter was retweeting like, see, you want to stay here forever?

Total bull. When he booed the crowd, that, I mean, that was it. Giannis has been a phony and a fraud and a diva for years and years and years. And no one wanted to say boo about it because everyone was just happy that they were winning. And I get it.

You got a ring out of it. And you're not a part of this because you don't give a shit. Done. But the thing I can't do is all of a sudden, when the trade happens, be like, Well, actually, Yannis fucking sucks. I can't do that.

You know? You can because the writing has been there from day one. Like what I'm doing with LaFleur. Fair. I didn't do with Yannis.

You can hate Giannis for leaving and. Being the way that he was and Pretending that he was somebody he's not. There's no way he should get a standard. Kyle says when I stopped seeing him at swim practice, he knew it was over.

Okay. Yeah.

Kevin O'Connor. who is an absolute dork. Oh, why is everyone? Listen for a second. Everyone that covers the NBA.

Like these guys. Are so fucking they're dorks. None of them are cool. Zach Lowe is not cool. Kevin O'Connor is not cool.

No one's cool. All of these NBA guys are huge dorks, shams, as we just established. English is his like fifth language, but he doesn't have a fourth, third, second, or first. Kevin says, Sean's language is putting, you know, that little toy where you put the square into the fucking square. That's Sean's, Sean's language is linking logs.

Sources say Bucks owner Jimmy Haslam was a driving force in taking the sources say, suck my cock, suck my cock. I'm so tired of this shit. I'm so tired.

Sources say, oh, yeah, Kevin O'Connor's got sources. Cool. I'm sorry. I pride myself. This is not a crash out, by the way.

This is no, this is like I give you 98% of the real me. The other 2%, not good. You're getting it now.

Sources say they are. We know who these sources are because all these insiders, all their sources are just agents. That's it. Every one of their sources is an agent. Period.

Okay. Sources say Bucs owner Jimmy Haslam was a driving force. Haslam didn't want to risk Jalen Brown wanting out of Milwaukee in a year after dealing with Giannis and Miles Garrett trade demands. Haslam wanted certainty. And the deal Of Miami proved to be more total assets.

I'm going to say sources say. You are a dork.

Okay. Tweet. Haslam sucks. Yeah, as a Bengals fan and having watched the dumpster fire that he's created. a couple hours north.

In Cleveland. Totally not shocked by it. Totally not shocked at all. Yeah, and that was an under re that was an under like That was an under. Appreciated part of what the Bucs have been doing the last three years.

Everyone's mad at Doc, everyone's mad at Giannis, everyone's mad at Horst. Jimmy Haslam owns a big stake in this team, and we all just let it slide. And watch out because now that Giannis is gone. Yeah.

There's absolutely no way the Chili Dome is selling out every game next season. I mean, it wasn't even selling out last season. The money train is going to stop flowing. Eden's is going to get the hell out of there. He's a hedge fund dude.

Like he's not in business to lose money. He's gonna say he is absolutely gonna sell his steak. Haslam's going to be the complete owner of it. And then look out. And I think, you know, who that's good for is Mark Atanasio, because.

We don't we don't understand. In Wisconsin. We don't understand what bad ownership is. We have the Packers that are owned by me. We had the Bucks that were owned by Herb Cole, who made sure this team stayed here.

We had the Brewers who before Um Mark were owned by Bud, who fucking Ripped the team out of the womb in Seattle. To come here, okay. We've had owners that have been like. Fine or mid or milk toast. We've never had, and so a lot of like when Mark.

When Mark does something and he says, you know, whatever, summer of entertainment and passion and whatever, we're all like, ooh, because we don't know what a bad owner is. And now we're going to find that out. Yeah, it's going to be bad.

Someone just said in the chat they've got a 20. This is the best day of his life. Yeah.

Leases don't mean anything, and there is a buyout provision in it.

So, like, I tweeted this earlier kind of as a half-assed joke, but like, Today, Bill Foley, the owner of the Vegas Knights, said that he's applying for an NBA expansion team. The buyout, the relocation penalty in the Bucks lease is 500 million. Tell me that Bill Foley and his guys can't tack that on to an NBA fee. The Bucks better hope. That they win something.

You go back to the Kareem trade, like they were pretty competitive right after that, thanks to some shrewd moves. But if the bucks end up in the dump, like. Business is going to be bad. Money is going to be bad. And we're going to see some shit and hear some rumors.

To your point about ownership, Bart, I know what bad ownership looks like as a Commanders, Redskins, football team fan. And it sucks because you get on the other end of it. Oh, you did say football team. I said football team. It sucks because you get to the end of it and then you see what it looks like when new ownership takes over.

And you look back and you're like, there was never a chance. But in the middle of it, you think that maybe there's a chance, even though you know your owner sucks. And then you look back afterwards and you're like, yeah, there was never a chance. I don't know why we wasted our time. And that's.

Kind of what it feels like the Bucks are going into, unfortunately. Mm-hmm. Is anyone else live? Trey's live. That's good.

Check out Trey tonight. I don't see anybody else being live. Snells Live. You gotta, radio stations need to be. I'm sorry.

You can't just come in at six tomorrow. And do a show. You need to have somebody on standby. I'm sorry. I'm up.

I'm up. This is the first half of World Cup soccer. I've missed all. Oh fucking cop. Who are you playing right now?

Uh Jordan in Algeria. One one could throw the records out the window in those two longtime rivals meet. Ain't that the truth? I got nothing. It was on at the bar the other day.

It's not as funny as it should be, but also it is. I um I can't even troll the World Cup like I want to because I just. It's so goddamn boring. No, it's not. I love it.

I love it. Tell me more about the. What was it yesterday? If you can't find. The beauty in a nothing, nothing tie, I think it was your turn.

I feel bad for you. Feel bad for me. Because isn't the whole point of competitive athletics to win? No. To score points and win.

Q says, What was the point of hiring Taylor Jenkins? To coach Tyler Hero, apparently. This motherfucker's really on our team. God, every time I drove to Hale's Corners, I drove by that shitty George Webb that he was like, I always went to the George Webb. I love that George Webb.

Shut the hell up. Yeah, not that one. The one right on Highway 100. By the way, he's in the massage parlor. The longer.

I haven't been in that part of town in seven months. It's kind of weird because I was like. I I do you want to know so can I give you a real quick time out?

So No, I can't.

Okay, so I have a bunch of like apps on my phones where I take pictures of receipts and then get cash back. Oh. So before work a lot, I would go to that Walmart there on late on Highway 100. And the security people started like, what is this fucking guy doing? Because I'd just walk through Walmart and pick up receipts.

Okay. Yeah.

I still have them all here. Receipt Hog, Fetch, Ibata, Receipt Pal, Pogo. Coin out, inbox dollars. Anyone want referral links? Yeah, I'm good.

Okay. Maybe Taylor Jenkins. Andrew?

My friend texts me. The Bucks are going to suck for 15 years, aren't they? Just say it. I'm prepared for the news. Charlie says, Tyler hometown hero.

Yeah.

I saw everyone tweeting from Madison finally seven years later, Tyler Hero coming to play for a Wisconsin team. Although, is he going to get Sam Deckard? Remember when Sam Deckard was a buck for 45 minutes? Does he what could he get a first in return? Like, could they deal him for a first somewhere?

I saw I don't know that. I mean, if Detroit still wants him, are we any of this done? I saw something earlier today about Miles Turner possibly going to Toronto. Like, if the Bucs could somehow end up with four firsts in this draft, which is supposed to be one of the deepest in years, yeah. Big.

I don't think there'd be a title contender anytime soon, but we could be back to where we were in the Herb Cole days of fighting for the, you know, maybe the fifth spot. I think uh I think more needs to be talked about Jimmy Haslam here. Yeah, he's awful. He's awful. The this is gonna be What does he want?

What does Jimmy Haslam want? He claims to won championships, but. History says otherwise. I don't even know what you say he wants. I mean, he wants control, but.

He has control with Cleveland and can't do anything.

Well, they're going to build a new stadium. Is that what he wants? I mean, we already got one. Does he just want. He's not make is he making money on the Browns?

I mean, you're an NFL owner, you're prints in money. Like I'm not he also owns Yeah. Yeah, not going to go into that one. He also owns, uh, he owns one of your kicking ball teams. Uh Columbus, I believe.

The crew. Oh, yeah, they were going to move. And then the fans came in and saved the day. Yeah, they were going to move. How is Kyle Kuzma still on this roster?

Kuzma was shit posted earlier on Twitter. He was calling someone out for calling him an add-in piece. Hey, Carl gifted 20 memberships to the Bart Winkler YouTube channel. Get on those if you haven't. It's just the donation club.

But for $3.99 a month. But I do think I'm going to try to do something for you. I don't know what. But I'm thinking of you. By the way, A.J.

Johnson sucked too. Bucks draft pick. Everyone sucks. Yeah.

I don't even know who they're going to draft tomorrow. I don't even give a shit. I am going live though. The whole draft. I made a shitty AI graphic for it.

So, what are the headlines? How do we ABC block this? A, Giannis traded. Here's the return. But B, I think Jimmy Haslam's got to be a big part of the story.

I really, really do. Horse turned Giannis Drew and Chris into Hero Turner and Kuzma. Mm. Yeah Yeah. Yeah, then he's going to draft the kid because he's a Tennessee owner.

I like A Mint. Uh What what do you like about him? I don't Everyone shoots. Everyone says, I don't even know half of these guys. Everyone says he's six, ten can shoot.

I don't know. I mean, it's It sucks 'cause it feels like, you know, I don't love that Haslam is telling you which package to take, but it you can't blame Haslam for Giannis leaving, I don't think. I mean, you can blame the the trade package and all that, but I feel like Giannis is I mean Toby, there's only one person. To blame for this Giannis trade. Only one.

Then that's Giannis himself. Like This isn't ownership wanting to get rid of him. This is Giannis wanting out. 100%. Go ahead.

any say on this matter like The Bucks would have paid him. They know that they would have been screwed trying to build a team around him, but they sure as hell don't want him to go. He's their ticket. Use their meal ticket. He's the only one.

behind this thing. Him and him alone and his ego. That's it. But I also I've been talking about Haslam like they're not making any money off Giannis anymore. They're not.

Everyone who's ever seen it wanted to see Giannis has seen them. Everyone who's ever wanted a jersey has got one. Giannis Merch is not moving. You go to any goodwill. There's Giannis shit all over the place, and that's that's been for years.

Yeah, but I don't think you're going to be moving Tyler Hero jerseys. Oh, I didn't even think about this. Uh, Jake says, How pissed are you going to be when Giannis starts up with that this wasn't my decision? Bullshit in his introductory presser. I can't watch that.

I cannot watch that fucking presser. And you know he's going to say it. You know he's going to say it. Where do you think it started? The seed that he wanted out.

I mean, Andrew, you said it felt like it was always inevitable, but I mean, I don't know that I completely agree with that. It kind of feels like when they gave him the reins to pick a head coach, in which no one's ever, I love Giannis. I love what he did for Milwaukee, but no one's ever praised him for a high basketball IQ.

Somebody. I'm sorry, Toby, and I'm sorry to everyone who I always interrupt, but that's my thing. Can somebody report? on what people are talking about behind the scenes about Griffin. Can someone just say that he was late for practices and shit?

Like, can somebody just report what they know? No one will report it. Can someone report? And I don't know all the details, but I know that there's a thing that's not being reported. Was it you?

Was he? What w what's going on? The fact that he hasn't even been mentioned Yeah. tells you something just wasn't right.

Well, I just think love Giannis again, but I mean, it's not like anybody thinks he's a high basketball IQ player. He lives off of his physicality and ability. And, you know, it's as much as LeBron gets criticized, LeBron has a pretty high basketball IQ. If he says he wants somebody to be hired as a head coach, I think he carries more weight than what Giannis did. And when Giannis picks a head coach, I don't know, I was skeptical at the time and it clearly didn't work out and it's been a tailspin ever since.

Paulie. Does he have to sell back his portion of the brewers? Does Giannis still, or does Rogers still own part of the Bucks? Like, what the fuck is that? Yeah, that's a good question.

Does Rogers still own part? Maybe when you do this, does Ben Sheets and Doug Melvin and Gord Ashe still own part of the Admirals?

Well, they're just printing money over there. Yeah.

So I'm looking at some numbers here from After the Bucks traded Kareem.

So his last season, 74-75, they went 38-44, finished fourth. The next season, same record, thirty eight and forty four. They won their division. They bottomed out. in seventy six, seventy seven, thirty and fifty two.

But then you're four after Kareem. 48 and 38, 38, 44, 49, 33, 60, 22, 55, 27, 51, 31, 50, 32. 59, 23, 57, 25. And that was all with. basically the core of those guys that they got in the Kareem trade.

which was Junior Bridgman. Brian Winters, then Dave Myers, and Elmore Smith.

So like There could be life after him, but. And the the Eastern Conference, despite you know, the Knicks and and Heat and and and Celtics. This isn't like the 80s. When Philly and Boston were just loaded with all-star talent, like, The East is more competitive.

So, like, with the right draft picks, the right moves, because they're going to have financial flexibility, they could contend. Just going to be a lot harder. What uh and I haven't even thought about that like What do the Bucs look like in 25, 26? I don't give a shit. I'll say again what I've been saying.

I wanted to keep you on this. Because I did not that I like I just didn't want him to Go anywhere else, especially the heat, the sun.

Someone asked is this worse than Council to the Cubs? Um I like Matt's comments where he said he has to open a restaurant now with Yelich and Braun or Rogers and Braun. Hold on. Let me, let me. Is this worse than Council to the Cubs?

Uh.

Well, yeah, I mean, Giannis means more than. Council I think that I think With counsel. He must have been like quietly upset. And then he went to Chicago. And then the bullshit happened where he was like.

Remember, the Milwaukee Media showed up at his press conference, and he was basically like, why the fuck are you guys here? Uh you live 90 minutes away and you went to our fucking rival?

So I think a lot of it determines like what is Giannis going to say? Is he going to say, and you know what? I actually don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear, like, I love Milwaukee. And I still, I still, I get it.

You're somewhere for 15 years. You're wondering what else is out there. A lot of people have done that, where they move and think, is this it for me? A lot of people have done that. I think.

What has been the bummer about this is. It's Like Rogers. Rogers got mad, did well, and then was like, get me out of here. Favre was like, well, I don't know if I'm coming back or not.

Something's bound to happen, Dave. And the whole Giannis thing was like. He just He had one foot in and one foot out. And he couldn't decide. Like he was dating two people, Bucks and not Bucks, and he couldn't decide.

So, here, I'm going to give you, you know, I'm going to give you. The tweet about people come to me or I'm not building. I'm going to give you that. But I'm also going to like Boo the fucking crowd? Yeah.

What the fuck? Bucks fans should boo him when he comes back. He can get his adulation and his flowers and his. whatever on his retirement tour. Boy.

this dude you know what i would like you know what you know what i'm sorry again i'm sorry Eric says 34 Allen retirement for sure.

So I think if Gianna stays forever. He gets 34 to himself, but now that he left. You give it to Cummings, Allen, and. Giannis. That's all I do.

Whoever had that idea, the Bucks need to do that, would be amazing. Announce we're going to retire Ray Allen's number on when the heat comes back to town. Retire Ray Allen's number. I mean, it's perfect. Oh, his former team is here.

We're here. It would be Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. I'm honored to make history and to make my community proud. What would you like the power to do?

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It's everyone's fault. It's Jimmy Haslam's fault. No. It's John Hoare's fault. It's Giannis' fault.

Oh, I got this text. He comes back. Are we booing him that first game? Absolutely. I think that's insane.

There are some Bucks fans. There are some Bucks fans. There are some Bucks fans who don't know the Bucs. Without Giannis. If you're 21 years old.

He was here. When you were eight. And you enjoyed all of it. You got a title. When you were 16, 17?

It's like all you know is Giannis. And now he gone. Remember a couple years ago, I told you. Who's our star? Kalal Ware?

I mean, I like him, but... I took my two nephews and one of their friends, I think it was an Admiral's game or something. And they showed up, and like one was wearing a Yellow jersey, one was wearing a Rogers jersey, and one was wearing a Giannis jersey. And they're all like, you know, seven, eight, nine years old. And I just looked at them like.

Fuck you guys. Seriously. Fuck you guys in your childhood of like good sports teams. Hey, here's something else. What do we have?

If I didn't get laid off. I'd be on air right now. Oh, I'd be if you were on here, I'd be drunk and calling in under a fake name. And I would have to be like.

Well, you know, but here I can be like, motherfucking cock. Because that's how I feel. Whoever asked about whose fault this is, it's Giannis' fault. And whoever asked about do they boo, you absolutely lied to you. He lied.

I thought he was lied. I thought he was Superman's dad. That's a that's a deep cut. They made Superman's dad a bad guy in the new movie. I like the DCU enough, but I'm not going to go to the fucking theater to watch Supergirl.

I haven't been to a movie theater in at least the last time I went to a movie theater to see a movie, I think it was Walk the Line. It's a good movie. Great movie. The last movie I saw in a theater was Hoppers. I don't even know what the hell that is.

Some chick change brains with a beaver and save the environment. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. The kids movie. Yeah.

Yeah.

You know what? Here's to you, Bart. Go watch that one, Andrew.

Sounds right up your alley. Yeah.

Yeah.

And then, oh, 'cause there was I went to Super Mario Galaxy. Yeah.

And I fell asleep during it. And I fell asleep for 30 minutes. And the plot didn't move. It was still nothing happened. I go.

What happened? And there was like nothing. Yeah.

Mario, Mario just The background of Mario has changed. Yeah.

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That's a Lagavoom 11 Nick Offerman edition. Uh Slovak beer and Um Some fresh fresh produce from the garden. Super Mario Gallery. Super Mario Galaxy was worse than this trade. Mario Galaxy is the Tyler hero of movies.

Why is LeBron going back to Miami? Could that happen? I mean, honestly, we haven't talked about it. I hate the heat now. Like, I don't mergent.

I hate them as a team, but. I don't even think they're that good. You've got Giannis and Bam and what else? Yeah, what is their roster? She's better than us.

They just got rid of all their guards.

So they're going to start Davian Mitchell, Norman Powell, Andrew Wiggins, Giannis, and Bam. With It's not very good. Where the fuck are we starting? The projected depth chart right now is Rollins, Hero, Jake, Kuzma, and Turner.

Well, that's not very good either, but have the Bucks even announced now they haven't said anything yet. I mean, hopefully that thirteenth pick ends up to something good. I got another comment here off the YouTube that all of the All of this can be traced back to Alex Lazarie. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah.

Yeah.

I will never get tired of shitting on that little dweed. Are we still getting John Morant?

Okay. I don't know. Maybe. No one wants that guy. Yeah, Kuzma's getting traded for sure.

Turner's out of here. Does anyone want to give their condolences to Bobby Portis?

So, no one's on the roster from the championship now, right? Yeah, they're all gone. Yeah, that's got to be it. Because Thanassis, wasn't that the year he missed? No, he wasn't here, he was with the Knicks.

Hmm. Yeah, so whatever I said the starting five was so much shit is going to change. We have a draft tomorrow. We have Other trades, I'm sure. I don't know, man.

I think that I think more is going to happen before. Before the draft tomorrow.

Sources. Oh yeah, Thanasis was on the team. He had COVID. That's right. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, Giannis FaceTimed him, right, right after the game? Yeah, and then Thanassus was in a car at the parade. Which If we're just letting things out.

That rally was bullshit because they had like 200 people and then they blocked it off and no one could fucking hear a thing. They phoned in that fucking parade. And you camped out for it. Yeah, at least you had chairs out. I blame Bart for putting this voodoo on us ever since he changed his background.

Everything went to shit.

Well, I have to showcase Stryker, the 94-cup mascot.

Okay. It was a dog, wasn't it? Yeah, it's the World Cup. You want you want a fun. A little bit of Wagner.

50 bucks. Smash on my head. Yeah.

Indestructible. What, Wagner? I uh I have World Cup history in my In my jeans. I marched in the World Cup opening ceremonies parade in 1994 at Soldier Field. representing Germany.

How? How have you never told me that? The German dance group that I was a part of. My dad was at that group. My dad was there.

I was coming back from a school trip to DC. and got off in Chicago while everyone else went back to Milwaukee. I put on my little dance group clothes and marched in the parade and held the big German flag. Can I tell you my German school trip? You did last time I was on.

And I did it again. I don't give a shit. I'll do it for Toby. I'll do it for Adobe.

So I went to Germany. And There was like 20 of us. And there was this girl that I thought was cute. And then on like the second last day of the trip. I asked her to be my girlfriend.

And so then we were boyfriend and girlfriend for the last day in Germany. And then I got on the plane. And like the closer we got back to the States, The more I regretted what I had done. And as soon as we landed, I'm like. How the fuck am I gonna get out of this?

And then we dated for like three weeks. Then she married my friend. M Shark 23 says, Andrew Wagner being part of a German dance is something I never thought I'd hear. Are you kidding me? Like, I have never.

hidden that fact like Come German Fest time. I'm later hosing up, rip shit drunk, playing the accordion. You must not follow me on Twitter because it's all over the place there. What am I gonna yeah, I saw earlier tonight I did not go to swimming, coincidentally, the place I saw Giannis a bunch. Because I was on standby.

to do an emergency pod like all these fucking losers like me. And um When my kid came home. He asked. Has Giannis been traded yet? And I said, no.

And then I said, I think it's between the Celtics and the Heat. And he had asked me in a six-year-old way, like, who do you dislike more or something?

So we were ranking teams, and I was. He would tell me a team and I would say one to 10 how much I hate them. And 10 was maximum hate. And so He asked me heat and I said. And I'm only going to do 110, but the heat are the 10.

I hate the Celtics. I hate the Pacers. But the heat have a unique like Fuck these fans that have been on our ass for a decade. This heat culture thing is made up. Spolstra, if I can say it again, is a LeBron merchant.

He is. It's just like Oh, income tax and Pat Riley. This is like the best thing to happen to the worst team it could happen to. The heat are such the heat are such a fucking idea. They're not actually what you think they are.

But they do such a good job of convincing you that things are different there, and they're not. They're not. They won with Dwayne Wade and Shaq, and then they won with LeBron. And they also lost twice with LeBron. And then they, oh, they got to the finals again with Jimmy Butler.

Yeah, to get fucking smoked. When you sucked. And you beat our shitty, broken ass, injured team.

So good for you. But they're just such There's such like an When somebody gets like they're a false deity. In this league. The Heat played the Nuggets in the finals. Everyone was like, why is this game even on fucking TV?

That was a finals matchup, guys. That was a significant thing. Spolstra did outsmart out Coach Bucks multiple times in the playoffs. Yeah, you know, I outsmarted an ant the other day when I stepped on his fucking neck. Never saw it coming.

I just hate teams with singular names, which is also why I hate software. I hate it. I fucking hate it. Oh, is he a heat? Is he a thunder?

Is he a magic? Is he a jazz? Those teams don't deserve to win. You taught mammoth? You know, everything started to go in the shitter for the Bucs when they got rid of Miller products.

you ever think about that everything went in the shitter the night they won That's when it went in the shitter. Everything went in the shitter the night they won a title. Because they had no idea how to do it again. They stayed too loyal to these guys. Brooke Lopez got.

Multiple contracts after that? That brings up a question that I asked earlier. Normally, I'm a shit talker, which you may or may not know about me, but it was a legitimate question.

Now that it's over. How do you rate The Yannis era. And I'm not talking about the first couple of years where they were like. Larry Drew, Jason Kidd, just shitty and eking into the playoffs. But you blow the Easter the 20 in the Eastern Conference finals.

I give you a pass in the bubble year because that was just a fucked up situation. Um You win a title. No one can take that away. What? After that, second round exit, three straight firsts.

It's the same as this. Is the same as this? Is it? And they're lucky they got one or it'd be a four. Yeah.

They're lucky they got one. They are very light. Again, you can't take it away from them, but... I've said forever like Imagine the Rodgers tenure without a Super Bowl. Yeah.

Imagine that. It's like Dan Marino times eight. Imagine this Giannis era without a Super Bowl. The most annoying thing about the post-Giannis dude. You did win an NBA Cup.

Do not forget that. Exactly. There's always going to be someone. And this is what is going to piss me off for the next couple of years. There's always going to be someone anytime you're in a bar or whatever, discussing like Giannis's legacy.

They're out, you're gonna say, Well, he only won one championship, and some dipshit's gonna go, Oh, don't forget he won the NBA Cup, and I'm gonna hit that person. If you're in a bar and someone says that, you are allowed to hit that person over the head with a bottom. Yeah, I love the NBA Cup. Stop. No, you know what?

If you loved it, you would have listened to me. That night when I texted you and said, You better go put out a lawn chair for the content. And you didn't. I think Giannis loves La Crosse. Giannis loves Milwaukee like I love La Crosse.

I love lacrosse. I had my formidable years there. I look back at it fondly. I want to go there, but I don't have the opportunity much. Would I ever move back there?

Fuck no. Did I try to get out every time? There was a song. What was the song? I used to play.

I think it was by, oh, it was OAR Shattered. How many times can I break till I'm shattered? I listen to that at my car around. I listen to that at my WKBT office, dreaming to get out of that fucking city. Uh They just released a new record last week, and I was completely floored by the fact that they still exist.

and then have new material. Yeah, they they do look like like Like they, you know, when you like Happy Gilmore had the remake where Adam Sandler should not be playing that character. 50 pounds and 30 years later. OAR still looks like they're trying to play like. 20 years later, like.

Don't. You can't be that kind of band and still keep it up. Legendary flood coverage. Thank you. I did have legendary flood coverage.

Me and the town of Rushford, Minnesota are forever linked. And I've got a lot of great content on my YouTube page. Done, but what year was that? Two thousand seven Okay, I was way after my Winona lacrosse zero. Way out.

Did you ever go to the Winona Sandwich Company? They had the best Buffalo chicken sub. Yes, I did. They had the best Buffalo chicken sub. Oh f The sub shop I liked in La Crosse that I always go back to is Lindy's.

Lindy's in La Crosse was really good. Rob will hit me up on Lindy's. Big Lindy's guy. Is there another topic I should throw out? How am I feeling?

How are we feeling? Andrew doesn't give a shit. Right. From a give a shit standpoint. Like, yeah, I mean, I think it's shitty.

I think. First of all, I think it sucks for bookstands. I think it sucks for the city. Um sucks for the franchise obviously. Right.

I think And I don't know if it will, but I think this should absolutely tarnish. his legacy like The dude sold a bill of goods. And Blames injury. The thing that stands out: Algeria won two to one. Oh shit, did they cover the spread?

I don't know. I will never stop shitting on soccer. The thing that will always bother me about. Be honest. And everyone made this out to be such a Deep revelation and so thoughtful was after they got bounced, I think it was by Boston.

Or maybe it was the first time they got bounced in the first round, and Eric Names said: Do you look at this season as a failure? And he went on this whole song and dance bullshit about oh, it's not a terrible. Like, all you ever talk about is winning championships, and that's the only goal and the only thing that matters. You get your asses handed to you and embarrassed. And this isn't a failure.

So like, what's the real thing? Is it the, I'm just here for the experience, or everything to me is all about winning championships, and I only want to stay here if it means winning a championship? Like, This is, again, I'll say it again. This is all Anyanas. He played both sides the whole time.

He ate it up for the city. Oh, I want to be here. This is my fucking city. And then. Second it gets hard, I want to get the hell out of here.

I said on Twitter earlier, not I feel them with a woman. I wouldn't know what that's like anymore. Like Giannis could have easily settled this dispute countless times by saying, I don't want to trade, I want to sign an extension. It was always, oh, it's not up to me, bullshit. He could have come out and said.

All right, you know what? I want to stay in Milwaukee and I want to win another championship. And it means so much to me that I won't take the super max. I will take something lower so the team has the flexibility to get the type of talent around me that we need to win another championship. But is Egos too big for that?

And that's why he's going off to a bigger market. And I think he is going to will. Because I do not think Giannis can handle the media pressure in a major media market. I don't think he's got it in him. In Milwaukee, not saying that like Naim and Ozarski are like, they're terrific reporters.

blood. The Milwaukee beat core. It's not as intense as Giannis is going to get a pretty long honeymoon in Miami, though. They've been waiting for this for a long time. We'll see how much they like it when he makes them wait an hour and a half after a game.

Ben L is joining us as well. Toby, Andrew, Ben. Hello, Ben. What's up? What are you thinking?

Uh Um Kinda saw it coming, I guess. I mean I thought that We would maybe get a better outcome 'cause now our ter our players are terrible. And I don't think Haslam has been 2032, Ben. Yeah.

We We haven't drafted above a seventeenth pick in what? 20 or 13 years so We have no historical evidence of them actually drafting anybody good.

So Picks we get aren't going to be above 17. They need to package the two picks and move up. Is anyone dumb enough to do that? Haslam's not smart enough to make it happen. Are any of Miami's picks protected?

I don't know. I d I th th the thing I gave you before. There was no protections in them, so I would say no. Because YM would be freaking hilarious. is Giannis next season.

Blows his knee out like he always does, gets hurt, misses half the season. Miami shits the bed. ends up top three in the lottery. And the Bucks end up with it. That would be.

Somebody, hey, somebody mentioned it earlier, but I don't. I don't discount LeBron going there now. I think that's gonna happen. And I also think.

Well, I was wondering if LeBron and Giannis team up and win in Miami. Are they both trying to outdo the Magic Kareem dynamic of the Lakers. Are we like reliving history? But I don't, the age gap is way different or. Yadis.

LeBron, but maybe they bring Kyrie over too. I don't know. There could be a big old Big three in Miami again. Let me also be revisionist history. Giannis and Dame didn't work, and I'm going to blame Giannis now.

2030 is a swap. I'm going to blame Giannis. Even though Dame didn't want to fucking be here and was fat. Uh I'm blame Yannis. Because here's what I noticed the most about watching basketball for the Bucs this year.

Ryan Rollins. Had a very nice season. And he was like really, really good. And he would be very aggressive with the ball. He'd bring it up.

He'd shoot. He'd take it to the rim. Ryan Rollins was playing very well. Giannis Came back. And it wasn't that Rollins.

Acquiesced to Giannis as much as it was. I don't know what to do right now. He didn't know he just. Giannis would give him the ball. He'd just give it back to him.

Yeah, he just he was a oh, yeah, Ron's a 12 assist. Yeah, well, he was also two for three. Can you even fucking shoot anymore?

So, if Giannis got to figure out at this point in his career, am I going to be a ball-dominant player still? Or can I let somebody else do that?

So if you have LeBron and Giannis on the same team. I mean, brighter men than me have said it. Guys, there's only one basketball.

Okay. That is very deep and thoughtful. I never considered that. It's pretty good, Art. I mean, there's only one.

We have high volume players too right now. Like the people the players on our team. Tyler Hero is a high volume like he needs the ball a lot to have production. I'm not. I don't think Tyler Hero's staying here.

No, neither. I mean I don't maybe they're maybe that's that's your move there Bart is Put Tyler Hero in 13 and move up. Yeah.

Yeah.

That would make sense. Because if you can get somewhere close to back into the top 10, I mean, even if you just get like to eight or something like that. I mean, there's going to be some really good players. I mean, if you could get up and get like a woggler or a cuff, I mean, that's probably five and six somewhere in that range, but. It's a pretty good player you could get that you can feel like you're starting to bank on.

Do you think they'll do a Hero Cunningham swap? If How about Hero and Turner for Jalen Duran and Cunningham? Yeah.

And Ron Holland. No. If the Bucs trade up, though, do they Mickey Sasser still a pistol? What's that, Wigs? If the bucks trade up though.

Do they have to give the higher pick to the Pelicans? Or do they keep whatever pick they acquire in a trade? Mickey Sasser was a Met. Who am I thinking of? I don't know the answer to that.

It's 12:30. I've had two happy place hemps. Yeah.

Yeah.

Not building a Pfizer. Yeah, if you're a Bucks fan, so this was the other thing about Giannis is And I said this earlier, but you're not selling any more tickets to people who've never seen them, you're not selling jerseys. What are the Bucks promoting right now? Come and see. The hometown kid Tyler hero.

Mm-hmm. Do we we don't like Tyler Hero? Yeah, no one likes Tyler Hero. That's why you gotta. No hero doesn't like us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It'd be like training for Halliburton, and all of a sudden, he's like, oh, I fucking love Hoshkash. Yeah, it's the same thing. Except Halliburton's better. Yeah.

God. What if what if Giannis comes back like So, Corinne's first came back, and again, this is before I was born, but my dad was a huge Bucks fan and Hated cream. In fact, My dad died, he told me he remembered three things. Game six or whatever, whichever game in the 82 World Series that was Rain Delayed should have never been played. And Fuck Kareem were his final words to me.

But Kareem's first game back to Milwaukee. He like elbowed Kent Benson in the face and broke his nose like he had to play with a mask for the rest of the year. What if Giannis comes back and just stooges up like that? Then really people can shit on them. I'm all for the honest hate.

I think there needs to be absolute contempt for this dude. Remember, with this trade, they can still finagle it until like July 6th.

So I would expect more yeah, I would expect more pieces get involved. I don't think this is the final deal. Because now, if a Bucks or if someone's like, hey, we'll take Hero, then the Bucks will, you know, they'll manufacture that. I don't think this is the trade that gets sent to the league office. I think July 6th to finalize a trade.

'Cause the NBA's fucking stupid and it's run by a lizard.

So this is Does this mean that the Whoever they pick at 13 is going to wear that stupid heat hat. And then they're going to be really a book. Yeah.

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So, what do I? I mean, I don't even give a shit about the draft. I don't care. Who are we gonna Who we I don't care. All right, so let's stick back into now then.

Someone asked earlier: is this worse than council? But I'll put it a different way. Is this worse than? Far for Rogers and the bullshit that they pulled. And Ultimately leaving.

Well, I think, and I've said this before again, but it is a lesson. Because when we had Favre. Remember how he took over the state. And then it ended poorly. And you're like, I never saw it coming.

Yeah.

And then with Rogers, it ended poorly, and we're like. How could it be? And then Giannis, it's ending poorly. We're like, oh no. And here we are, we're all like, Toyota-thon, Jordan loves a dad.

Boop, boop, boop, boop. What's his wife call him? Fucking that one name I can't remember.

Okay. Pookie, pookie, pookie, pookie. And then what's going to happen there? It's going to be a fucking disaster. They all are.

They're all going to end bad. Nothing ends good or it won't end. I mean, Ryan Braun finished his career with the Brewers.

Okay. But then he got a bust for him. Oh, dude! I almost got all the way through it. I almost got all the way through without cracking.

Ryan Braun did nothing wrong, by the way, because he took steroids for you, the fan. Right. Yeah, I I'm not on an opinion with that one really, but I know we're not talking baseball, but I will say this about Braun. I care less about what he did. than than I do what he did after the fact.

And like one guy's life. I've ruined like seven. Shit, I've ruined the lives of many women, that's for sure. Mm-hmm. But no one called me yesterday with any surprise news.

So it was a great Father's Day. I saw this Instagram. I've never seen this before, but it's very funny. I recommend. It's called John Gives Bad News.

Does anybody know about this guy? Yes. You do? He just calls people. He calls people.

He goes. Hey, this is John from John Gives Bad News. Jessica says that you're a slut. And she doesn't want to talk to you again. And the person's like, What's going on?

Who are you? He goes, I'm John. From John Gizbad News. I don't know. I just saw it today.

It's very funny. It's awesome. I've thought about setting up a cameo. For exactly that purpose, because like I'm fucking you call him to give you your bad news. It's fucking great.

Everyone wants like celebrities to like give Berkeley wish or whatever. Then you get me, the jackass, like You want to break up with someone, but you don't want to face them. You want to tell someone that you're getting divorced. You want to tell someone you're quitting a job, but don't. Hire this fucking nobody schlub sports writer from Wisconsin, not Cameo.

to deliver that news for you. It's a gold mine. And then someone's done, dirt, cheap. Exactly. Nice.

I think five is worse than this though. Farve, well, yeah.

Well, that was seven years of this, but Giannis, Giannis was a lot more Farvey. Then he was Rogersy, if I may. Yes, yes. I was actually going through my archives. I tweeted that years ago.

saying i have over on far below i have prop comedy i have to show you this Oh, you're God. No, keep going. If it's a picture from your last prostate exam, nobody wants to see it. Wow. This'll be something.

But I got shit on years ago for comparing. When did Favre leave Green Bay? Yannis to Favre. Was it in Two thousand No, I think I think it was 2008. Was it that late?

When did Five 09? They went to the cover. It was 09. Yeah.

So we're going to go with 08 or 09? Yeah.

Oh, okay. 07. He was with the Jets in 08. 07. Okay.

I have a TV guide. Uh going going gone. It's Brett Favre on the cover. It says before he packs it in. Red Favre scrambles for another Super Bowl.

Ready? NFL 2003 Preview Edition. Yes. Look at this fucking shit. Mm-hmm.

Look at this. Fucking shit. Real TV guide too, if you want to know what was on. Oh, you can get a sick Eagles train. All right.

Yeah.

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By the way, going back to your council thing. Does council feel worse because at least all these felt inevitable at some point? Council just out of nowhere is like, I'm gone. Yeah.

I think council is probably I think it's different. Because Council truly was. quote unquote one of Great. I can't say us, but like y'all. Who's got the scanner on?

It's my phone. I don't know, man. It's just not to see him working. It was your feed was coming through my phone. MTV, Road Rules, Road Rules Marathon, and Doggy Fizz.

Go ahead. What? No, I'm just saying council was I think it's it's It's different because he was from here. He grew up here. He played here.

He made that stupid video about I was born a brewer. I'm a born a brewer. But Giannis did the same shit. Loyalty's in my DNA, dear. Yeah, but I mean, he's at least told you for like the last three or four years that he was leaving.

Rogers, you kind of knew at some point either he was gonna just fade off into obscurity or it was gonna leave. Favre was probably the first time where it was like. Who knows? I mean, I didn't experience it. I wasn't in Wisconsin, but it's like kind of on and on again, off again.

And then all of a sudden he's gone. Like, I don't know. Rogers and Giannis tonight kind of, I mean, Giannis, you felt like at some point was leaving. Council just out of nowhere is like, yeah, I'm going to go to Chicago. I mean, that was a dick punch.

That was it was low. It was dirty. Like Council's just scum. But watching him fail makes it a lot less. Significant.

Yeah, I would have drove him down there myself. If he was with, he's kind of making it okay right now.

So there we go. Do you want Giannis to fail or succeed? Oh, fail. Are you kidding me? Yeah.

Fail. You gotta want him to fail. You gotta boom when he comes back, and you gotta want him to fail. You can cheer him and applaud him and give him his standing ovation and his video tribute. His last season, but this dude ditched y'all.

This dude lied to you, sold you a bill of goods, and then said, peace out. I'm going somewhere else. All that shit didn't mean it. Like. You should absolutely hate them.

But that's that's where I keep I keep pointing to How I understand when someone grows up in a place and they wonder, they just wonder what is it different? What could it be? The problem is you made us go through that with you. You didn't have to do that. You don't have to tweet one thing, feel, and maybe in a social media era, this is totally different because that's how he communicated with us a lot about how much he wanted to be here and whatever.

But he did communicate that with us, he wanted us to know. And he's still going to say great things about Milwaukee. But you did bail on us. You bailed on us. You bailed on us.

You can promote it with you. We celebrated it with you. And then you bailed on us. Things got tough, and you bailed. You wanted to leave.

You bailed.

So, what do you like? Is it better to have loved and lost and not never loved? Whatever, when you're with someone for 15 years and then it ends badly. I don't think when you hear their name again, you think of the good times or your fifth date or the first time or the whatever. You think of Oh, that bitch.

This isn't like one of those good stories where a grizzled veteran hasn't won a championship and he gets traded to a contender. Ray Bork in hockey, trying to think of like examples in baseball or other sports where a guy's been around forever, hasn't won anything, he gets traded to a contender and finally wins a title. Like, this isn't one of those things. And honestly, it could be argued, he's not going to a much better situation than he's not. He's not.

Jada Pay says, gentlemen, amazing job tonight. My reaction: fuck Giannis. Played Puppet Master and blame the Bucks.

Meanwhile, Big Woo comes back and deals for the Brewers. That's a real loyalty guy. Asian guru says, Do you guys not understand? Nobody wants to be in Wisconsin their whole career. I don't get that.

I don't get that 'cause taxes are fine, cost of living is fine. I mean, I know these guys have so much money it doesn't matter, but like Miami's expensive. He's got four kids. I don't know, whatever, but I don't know. I mean, I'm mad about Giannis.

I'm mad how it went down. I'm really mad, it's the heat. But I am optimistic, and I think I'm stealing this from Grant. But if he goes to the Celtics, And they still have Tatum, like they're going to find a way to, that's going to work. He goes to the heat.

This will fail. I don't know how this is. I really don't. You don't want Toby? I think it will work.

I don't know how this works. I don't know how him and Bam are supposed to be the leading force. It's not doubting Giannis' ability, but what the heck? That that's supposed to be your who's playing guard for that team? And maybe if they get LeBron, maybe it's a little bit different.

I truly don't know how this makes a lot of sense for Miami. Really don't. We also, and whoever is to blame for this. And I'm sure there's puzzle pieces to it, pieces of the pie. But you had Giannis.

And for the last two years of him, you employed Doc Rivers, who, once he got hired, immediately said, I wouldn't wish this on anybody. Doc's a scapegoat. But why why have him He sucks. But I think why have you Giannis? Why have him?

Unless you're trying to drive him out. Did the Bucs try to get Giannis to break up with them? I mean, I agreed with moving on from Bud, because at some point you have to make a move, but... Know with how it was going, but I just didn't love where you went from there, and I think. That's a good question.

What? So you okay, wha why did they need to move on from Bud? I mean, it had gotten stale. There weren't adjustments made. I I like but it's one of those things that you need to make the right move afterwards and you have to be open to the criticism afterwards.

And they move one for Bud, which was the right move, and then they made terrible decisions afterwards. See, and this is the issue that I have with that. And it goes back to the whole excuse that people use for them shitting the bed in the playoffs. The excuse is always: well, Middleton was or Yannis or Damus or whatever. And I get, again.

Some of these were after Bud left, but like. They were injured in the playoffs, Buds, last year.

Well, Bud.

So, how is it Bud's problem? When the excuse for everyone else was injuries. That's the purpose I never get. I never understood why they fired Bud. There were plenty of times where we thought they should have fired Bud before he won.

Yeah.

And I think the injuries. Like the Bucks could have easily had an excuse year after year, injuries we're going to keep Bud, just like the Packers used that as an excuse with Parsons and Kraft.

Well, we're keeping LaFleur.

Okay, well, you're still up 21-3 in Chicago without him, you motherfuckers. Fuck the Packers. Goddamn fucking Packers. But with Bud and with Kid, what I used to say about Kidd was...

Well, who are you going to hire? It doesn't fucking matter. The house is on fire. Get out of the house. You'll worry about where you're sleeping tonight as soon as you're done burning alive.

But with Bud The smoke detector was on, but you didn't see the fire yet. Like, if we're going to move, if the doors are creaking, if everything move, but know where you're going to move first. Kid was, get out of the house. Bud was, we should know where we're moving next. They fired him, had no plan.

Nick Nurse available, Atkinson available. And then Giannis is like, Griff's probably a pushover.

So let's bring his ass in here. That's what happened. You shouldn't. Shouldn't have moved out before you knew where you were moving with Bud. That was a mistake.

The weird thing was, and granted, I understand why they got rid of, they were winning like crazy with Griffin. Didn't they have the best record in the league at the time? Or close to it.

Well, yeah, but there's secrets about how he acted that no one will fucking report on. Yeah.

The whole thing with Terry Stotts, that should have been like an immediate red flag, but that didn't come out till. until later anyway. Like when stots when stots just up and resigned. That was, yeah.

Well, didn't he just do that somewhere else again, too? Yeah, but the story came out about them butting heads left and right.

So. I think, I think, I don't know. There could be some Terry Stots to that. I mean, both could be at fault, but I don't. I'm not going to absolve Terry Stotz.

Does this make docks time? Look better in a sense than. No, Doc's time was the worst part of this franchise's history.

Well, it's like. Poor Janis. Yas wasn't helping. Not that I'm saying Doc wasn't terrible, but like exasperated it. I would say the last two years were.

And I know they've been bad, and I know they've won 15 games, and I know whatever. The last two years were the worst two years in Bucs franchise history because while this was happening, you still had Giannis and you purposely wasted his talent.

Now, I do think Giannis faked at least one of those three injuries. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm getting at.

So he's not any. I mean, but so take all that and put it in a. Box, the last two years of the Bucs were the worst two years in franchise history because you didn't even give a fuck. You didn't even try. You couldn't even get in the goddamn playing tournament.

And he has no house too. How much How much do you think of this is on Horst as well? Do you think, like, he wasn't, or do you think that some of that stuff is Giannis wants these? Just riding this shit out. I don't think he's going to stay there for years.

The thing that I never understood is what what did people expect horse to do? Like he had limited options, he had to make moves to appease Giannis. They may not have been popular. And yeah, you had to deal away assets to try and keep winning. And yeah, they were desperation moves, but you had to do stuff.

to keep your prima donna happy. In When you're that far over the aprons. because you're paying two, three guys, 90% of your cap. Like you're limited in what you can do. Horse was a figurehead.

I truly believe that. Like, I don't understand. the blame on horse. I mean, to me, the main blame for Horst is not being able to hit on some of these draft picks recently. I mean, you know, when you have an old team that wins in NBA Finals, it's incredible and it's such a fun run, but that's part of why you fall off.

I saw this in D.C. The Nats win in 19 and they were the oldest team in baseball and everything fell apart ever since then. And it's just now becoming a decent team again. It's something where they had to completely tear everything down. They traded Juan Soto, all that crap afterwards.

For the Bucs, it felt like, you know, Chris Middleton was never going to be the same player again.

So you had to move off of him. Drew Holiday eventually. And so you try with Lillard. Didn't really work, obviously. But, you know, it'd be a little bit different.

And it's not to say that when you're picking late in the first round every time, you're not going to find a superstar. You're not going to find a Wemby or anything. But can you at least find guys that can give you minutes in the rotation? And they weren't able to do that.

So, and even guys like A.J. Johnson gets chipped out here. And Wizards fans are like, can we stop watching this guy play basketball?

So it's something where if you hit on just one or two of those, where a guy's coming in and giving you 12 to 15 minutes tonight, it's maybe a little bit differently, but I mean, it's like Bo Champ, and it's like, well, what the heck? None of these guys are really giving you anything. Yeah, we haven't had an all-star Cynthian. I'm not saying a generational talent. We haven't even had an all-star drafted.

Milwaukee Buck. Since Giannis. Because I think that's the only thing is like if you hit on a draft pick and then there's maybe assets, and then you know, when you go get a Damian Lillard, okay, there's another guy to come off the bench and help you out, or something like that, then maybe it's a little bit differently. But it's just one of those things that, all right, well, if your entire roster was focused on Giannis, Chris Middleton, and Drew Holiday, and Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday kind of ran into the wall of being old and you were never going to get anything for them, and you're just getting diminishing assets over time, and then Lillard comes here and that falls apart. Like you're just depending on the stars, and none of that ever worked aside from Giannis being Giannis.

But then that's kind of led to all this drama. Do you think the Lillard if if if Lill if the if Lillard would have stayed healthy? And they had both of those guys on the floor for a playoff run. Do you think it would have made any difference? I really don't.

I still don't think that was a good trade. Maybe not. I don't know. I don't understand. I don't.

Then why did we do the Turner? Why didn't... Like we could be coming back right now with Dame too. Yeah.

We could be we come and come back out of this with Dane. But then, why get Turner? That's another part. The last two years of the Bucs were the worst two years in franchise history. Because Horse is making a desperate attempt to appease Giannis.

Yeah, it was all desperate. It was all desperate. I mean, you have to. 100%. You have to.

So it's like you can't blame them for trying to get people to try to keep Giannis here as long as possible, but. I mean, it it puts you in a bad spot where you're just constantly not able to build the team that you want because you're constantly either giving up assets or overpaying for something or getting somebody that nobody wants, Kyle Kuzma, you know, like those sorts of things. If if Giannis' ego hadn't gotten in the way, They could have written out this dameless year, had a gap year, kind of like the Warriors had, was it? Two three years ago. Where, all right, staff, you know, it's gonna be everyone's hurt, everyone's out.

We're just going to ride it. Get a good draft pick, get a stud in the draft. get some salary relief get dane back okay now everyone's full strength Have a one-year step back and then make a run at it. But Giannis' ego got in the way and. He wanted the Bucs to do something and Short of options.

Horse did the the one thing they could do and got Arguably at the time, one of the most sought-after free agents. It turned out to be a shit move, but. It was a big name at the time. Which I like to use to baseball people just because you sign a big name. Doesn't mean it's going to pay off.

Well, it's Andrew McCutcheon. I mean. Yeah.

It's Andrew McCutcheon. Boys, I'm going to close the book on this one for the night. I will be back for my live draft show. Let's go. Starting at seven, if anyone wants to join.

I'll be on right at seven, talking about prospects I know nothing about. AJ DeBonds are busted. When do you think the bucks? Say something about this. Do you think they address it tomorrow?

Mm-hmm. Uh well doesn't don't they talk after the draft? Are they actually having media availability? I don't know. I'm no longer on the uh on the list, so yeah, I do need to close up now since my computer's dying.

Bad a boy. But this freeze on the positive, this frees up my day tomorrow because I have my kid, no camp tomorrow. And now I can take him to like Discovery World or some shit instead of like, I got to stay by my computer, son. I might have to do an emergency podcast. That's nice.

Do a little research. Thank everybody for joining, not to make light. for joining and for being here. And for watching and listening after the fact, and sharing this and sharing my sick spirit Halloween tweet I've had for a month. Can we get a link to the.

Channel 12 interview you had today. I don't have one. I thought they were going to send me one, and they didn't, and I don't know where it is. I wanted to see. I don't know what'd you say?

Like, what were you going to say? By one point, I think the point with the picture. Where he's like, What are you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is they played a clip of Shams.

Talking on ESPN. And like I said earlier, he can't talk. And I said on the news, I go, I love the profession with all due respect, and I mean with all due respect. The way that Shams talks on TV, he could not even get a job in Wausau right now. with all due respect, you know, and that that got him.

It played better on The news. All right, I'm going to log off. Guys, Ben, Andrew. Toby, Q, Jake, earlier. Thank you guys.

Thanks for being here, Carl, for the subscriptions. Um And thanks to Giannis for making it real fucking shitty on the way out. I was pretty sick. That was pretty sick. Thanks as always for stopping into the Winklerverse.

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