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February 2, 2026 8:28 am

The hosts discuss the latest developments in the Giannis trade rumors, including potential destinations and the impact on the Milwaukee Bucks. They also touch on the Super Bowl, NBA, and sports radio, as well as WrestleMania and the Royal Rumble.

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Welcome into the Winklerverse. It is the podcast. that I am doing. To continue my place in this business, I thought maybe Carlos Ortiz joining us. as he does on Mondays.

You'll be back next Monday for our Super Bowl recap. Yeah, how about that? And I think I might actually go live after the Super Bowl. As well. I can promise you I will not be available at that time.

So do you get like bombed during the Super Bowl or what?

So, no, I'm still doing my usual weekend stuff, but I'm trying to be a schemer. The host is working with me until six. We're trying to pre-tape our last two segments, possibly last hour.

So we can get the hell out of here because. I am not trying to be working while I'm doing the Super Bowl, so. Yeah. We're going to be taking a death.

So you can't you can't do a sports radio show during the Super Bowl. Apparently, you can. It's just a matter of how much clearance we're going to get.

So that'll be interesting. But I 1000% will not be live my last hour of the shift. I guarantee I'm going to try to tape as much as possible. 'Cause it's one thing and Carlos and I, as you may know, have worked together for Uh, many years, two full years, I'll say, of the Infinity Sports Network, sure, roundup. Yeah, we can round up.

Um And we've worked during big events, like even a Monday night football game between two teams that aren't. you know You know, putting the turning the world on fire, or whatever. I was trying not to say that one, but it's all I could. Think of I can I can also just only look at my fat face. I'm so obsessed.

with my cheeks. I can't get back under 200 pounds. I don't know what has happened. Yeah. I can't get it.

Obviously, the Eminem's and Doritos. But look at my eyes. I look like shit. Yeah, I look like a good 240.

So yeah, you you carry your weight terribly. I mean, I was over here admiring my arms. I have definition for like the first time ever. Like, oh, you see that right here? Um knock that beanie, that logo right off your beanie.

Wow. That's right. Don't be messing with my Sabres logo. Let me put the guns away. I don't want the if you're on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream, Danshaney.com.

For your insurance needs. I mean, I I look like shit. Yeah. And I can't like I can't not talk about it. 'Cause my wife yesterday, I go, Honey?

It was the first thing I said to her. I'm just going to bitch about my weight now. And I won't do it the rest of the day. And she goes, That's interesting, because I was going to tally. How many times have you bitched about it today?

And And I was gonna see if you talked to me about anything other than that. And I don't I in it up. I ended up. A nice Peyton Pritchard shirt. Uh Did you see that?

Peyton Pritchard. Reggie Miller goes to Caitlin Clark last night. You know whose game you remind me of is Peyton Pritchard. Yeah. And her face like drops, like what Peyton Pritchard.

She's like, I would bust Peyton Pritchard, no disrespect to him. Oh, but then the rest of the day I just bitched about my weight. Oh no. Yeah. So I'm really obsessed.

Um And that's no good. But. We forge on here. Um Carlos Ortiz. Joining me.

That's right. I mean, you're working out at the gym. I mean, it's been cold here, so I'm just freezing. Steps. Sucks.

Yeah, it is absolutely freezing. I mean, yesterday was neg, it felt like negative eight. Walking the dog, and I was like, oh, to hell with this, man. And that stupid groundhog saw its shadow.

So, supposedly, that means another six more weeks of winter, which is usually BS, but I think last year was true.

So. I'm not looking forward to an extended winter. I should send you um I was caught on video today. I was shoveling my... Driveway, and there was a patch of ice I wasn't aware of, and I fell.

Oh no, that happened to me last year. Or was it a year before that? Do you remember when I came to work with a broken hand? Yeah, I think I do. Yeah, yeah, that's what happened to me.

I was walking a dog patch of ice, didn't see it. Ew, bomb, you know, nuts. But I didn't have an old dog, still have that dog. Miserable. But that is the winter.

We'll try to forge on here. I want to talk to you about the Super Bowl. And some of the other nonsense that's going on. I Obviously. Top of mind for me.

And I would be talking about this a lot on the national show. Um Is Giannis at the centerpiece of the trade? Sure. Talking. Hopefully, we'll find out sooner rather than later, considering the deadlines on Thursday.

Deadlines on Thursday. I have seen a lot of different Rumors, tweets, and I don't know who's real anymore. And who's saying what? Like, I've probably spent the last three days digging through the Epstein files. Yeah, me too.

I'm trying to see what other names are in there because there's no way this is all we got so far.

Well, your owner's in there for the Giants. Yeah. Yeah. Steve Tish. What a scumbag.

Can't wait to hear it. Adult women. It was just adult women. Oh, sure. It was.

Oh, come on. But even still, like, I'll see people screenshot it and I'll be like... I don't know what's a real. I don't know what's a joke. Yeah.

I don't and that that that's my roundabout way of bringing up that while still talking about Sports. But with Giannis, like, I don't know, I don't know. What The heat rumors real. I've read that Draymond is willing to be traded only to then sign as a free agent the next year. I've read that the Heat somehow have.

Right of first refusal. Which makes no fucking sense.

So I've read a lot of different things. And so I thought. Because if this happens, it's gonna be terrible. Yeah. If it doesn't happen.

I'll almost be just as mad because now Shams. Has really been putting on the It's going to happen. It's going to be Golden State. And then and then they're bitching on E.S. Look at this is This should be exciting for all involved.

Bucks fans should be excited that. There's going to be a new era because this one's faded away. And we don't want to lose Giannis, but okay. Whoever's getting Gianna should be excited. The league should be excited.

But when you've had 10 years of this. This is one of those things that like I keep um bitching about and clearly I'm not getting the level of Satisfaction or acknowledgement. I'm not trying to say I did anything wrong. I'm not doing that, but it feels like I'm talking a lot about Giannis. And Shams and how this has been a 10-year thing, and no one cares.

Like, everyone's just like, oh, yeah, well. Where's he going to be? And then, if he doesn't get traded again, the next three months are going to be three months of where's he going to get traded in the summer? I just So I'm not looking at anything else. Until if it happens.

I still don't think it happens. Really? This week? I think it happens in the summer. I think it's a done deal this week.

Wow. For who? Golden state? I don't know. I don't necessarily know about Golden State.

I really honestly, I looked at a couple of rumors and quote-unquote reports from the quote-unquote insiders. And I really feel like, because I'm looking at this, you know, thinking, what's going to be the best package for my friend, my friend Bart, who's a Bucks fan. The Knicks can't offer you draft picks.

So, you know, you're going to take Deuce McBride and. You know, and a couple of pick swaps, and maybe OG Ananobi, if you can prime away, that's not necessarily going to be a great deal. I think the Timberwolves have a lot to offer you guys. I don't know if that's going to consist of like Rudy Golbert, but they have young players and they have a crap ton of picks. I feel like.

Giannis probably won't be on board with going to Minnesota, but that's going to be the best haul that Milwaukee can get. Because Golden State Jimmy Butler apparently doesn't want to be traded. And you know, do you even want Butler back? Like, I don't know what a package is going to necessarily consist there with Golden State. You have to get a third team involved.

But I do think one way or another, he's going to go. I just think. If he's going to try to force his way to the Knicks, that's where it's going to be tough for Milwaukee because, again, you'll get a couple of players like. players who can come in and step into your team right now. But you're not going to get anybody that's going to be like a Foundational piece, and you're not going to be in a position to get any quality draft assets because the Knicks don't have draft picks until the summer.

So I just think. Giannis and Minnesota, not Minnesota, Giannis and Milwaukee's relationship has been to. Has been cordial for a long time. Giannis did bring a championship there. I think he's done.

I think he's two championships. I'm not a cop, but sure. All right, fine. A championship and a championship of Jace. Um, I've got a t-shirt right by each other.

Did you set up a lawn chair? Before I finish my thought, did you finish set up a lawn chair for the NBA Cup parade route? Like Remember, I did after the show, and nobody was on the street. I just remember it being completely dead. I'm like, go home.

But 5th Avenue, 1 a.m., dead. Long story short, I think it gets done. Um I just I think it's going to. I ultimately wind up thinking it's going to be New York because I think Milwaukee is going to kind of want to do right by Giannis. But either way, he's got to get moved.

Uh if he wants to get paid because uh what you know you'll know york i think ultimately i think ultimately yes i i i don't i don't living in new york no i'm not and i'm not a knick's fan i'm a bulls fan i you know listen i know but you're in new york you're hearing whatever bullshit is coming your way there's more there are more nicks fans here That are concerned that Minnesota or Golden State is going to get Giannis over there because they're saying Minnesota can't get them. What do they have to offer other than players? That's right. They only got pick swaps.

So, that's why I ultimately think it'll get done to New York simply because. Milwaukee will be the good guy and say, All right, you want to go here? Let's see if we can get you here. And they'll try to get as much from New York as possible. You're right.

They should do it over the summer because then at least the Knicks will have draft picks in order to trade. But I think it's going to get done by Thursday. I really think Milwaukee and the Honest is just. It's just, it's over at this point. Not that there's bad blood.

I think they want to do right by each other, but I think it's time for both to just move on and wash your hands. All right, two things off of that, if I may. Please. Is I think there's a strategy involved. Where Giannis and the Bucs Get everybody to think it's close.

And then the Knicks. And then the heat. And whoever, they're spending all this resource. Talking to John Horse, trying to get Giannis moved. They're not doing their due diligence on other trades.

Then this offseason, the Bucks get a high pick. 'Cause it's a swap situation. Uh, they're they, I don't, it does not feel like they'll ever win again watching this team with Doc Rivers. It is bad, yeah, of course, and There's a chance you retool a little bit in the summer. After jerking everybody's chain around here this week.

So that's. You know, that's a cope. That's a cope thought. And then I guess the extension, like, uh, because you know, he has to be on his current team for like six months or something like that. And I'll extend again.

If he fucking extends again. Oh, you got to make everybody eat shit. I'll give you Sham's number, and you could just. Text you can have it right now. Give it to me right now.

Here you go. I don't give a shit. No, don't, don't, don't. I'm serious. Don't give it to me.

I won't give it to you, but I want to prove to everybody. as I covered the phone on broad respect that I do have it. It's right there. Shams. That could just be a guy, a buddy you call shams.

No, I've had it since he was at Yahoo. He hasn't changed it? No, most of these media people don't. You want Shefty's number? I'll give you Shefty's too.

Like, he hasn't changed that shit either. I cannot have these people's number. I do, and that's why I'm responsible. Because I would have been hit people up and be like, you're a hack, or give me the inside of this trade so I can get some fucking engagement bait as well. But no, I'm a pro.

I and it's not like Oh, Bart's gonna get drunk. No, I would. You tell me. If you gave me Sham's number, I would text him within the hour that he should fuck off. Yeah.

And he won't respond and then probably just block. I've been like, dude, look. You don't know me. I've been talking a lot of shit about you. I got your number.

I just need to get it off my chest. Just to your face. Also If you want to discuss this on my pod for 15, 20 minutes, maybe lead with that first and then say you've been talking shit about it. Would you take the stream yard? No, but with the Giannis conversation.

I thought it would be a good time. To Bring back. The Bartometer. There are debates. There are hot tanks.

There are strong opinions. But in the quest for the truth, There is only one way to get the final say. It's time to fire up the Bartometer. I feel like the segment does need music. Yeah.

I can find it. My rock music I use all the time. I have generic stuff. Yeah, I got licensed for this.

Alright, let's use this. These are the eight teams. That I don't want to see Giannis traded to. At number eight. Wow, wow, wow, you Oh, you have it!

Okay, I got it. Number eight. Uh it's gonna be a tie. between the pistons and the calves.

So one can be seven, one can be eight. Either team doesn't do it a ton for me. Like I'd probably... The Lakers aren't on this list, but seeing Giannis traded to the Lakers would probably piss me off more initially. Yeah.

But over the course of time, With these teams being in our division, I know nobody cares about divisions. but you still do play your division teams more. Than the other teams in your conference.

So it would be four games against Detroit, four games against the Cavs. Then we would have to see. Then we would have to see Giannis.

So I don't know which one I would hate more. Probably the Cavs. I've got a soft spot for the pistons because They said they were gonna be good and then they were.

So long term it'd be one of those teams.

So that's Seven and eight. For uh five and six Yeah. What is the bartometer on a time limit that we're doing two at a time?

Well, I don't know what would be worse. Celtics and Pacers. I think it's Pacers initially would be worse. In division, too, because division mattered. But the Celtics are still.

The Celtics, if I'm trying to figure out which team do I hate the most in the NBA. Pacers are still relatively fresh. Yeah. Celtics still, like, that hasn't. Like, I've hated, so I think of them as like the Seattle Seahawks.

And I've hated the Seahawks. And I thought I could never book. But now in the Super Bowl, I think I'm rooting for the Seahawks. The Seattle Seahawks. And I'm not.

There with the Celtics yet, where I could root for them. Just, you know, it's still the same, a lot of same players.

So I don't know. But I'll put those as a tie. At number four. Number four, I would put this is the only Western Conference team on here. And that's the Golden State Warriors.

Now, I am a Golden State Warriors. Supporter. I don't know if I'd call myself a fan. But I am a supporter. with the you know Family.

Ties.

So I have rooted for them. I've had a Larry O'Brien trophy in my house. Pretty cool. I took it to work. the one-time salespeople were interested in talking to me.

I just don't want to. I've wanted the Bucs and Warriors to eventually meet. Steph V. Giannis, but I don't want it to be Steph and Giannis on the same team, unless, of course, that's in Milwaukee.

So I'm going to put the Warriors at four, even though I am a. Supporter. At number three, teams I don't want to see Giannis traded to. Number three is gonna be. It's gonna be the Knicks.

The Knicks are higher than they should be. Only because of those two guys. That in the summer Told me a deal was done. One guy on text. or email one guy calling My phone.

It was a Friday night. Remember that show? I came in one day hot. They both reached back out to me. They must be buddies.

The last time these rumors came up. I can't get another text from them. Knicks are three at number two. Number two. I don't know why I didn't think of that earlier.

Number two is gonna be the Miami Heat. Yeah. Be number one today.

Well, it it it should be. It should be. But the heat are number two. If I had done this four days ago. They'd probably be number one.

But I thought of something over the weekend. Or I saw something and it rattled me more than I thought it would. But the Heat, they've long thought they had the rights to Giannis. They long thought he was a future Miami Heat. He may be a future Miami Heat.

And it it wouldn't it wouldn't like It wouldn't justify shit that happened in 2018, but they would pretend like it did.

So Miami Heath probably has the most Sham Sharinia adjacent like Oh yeah, the whole time we knew.

So that's what I heater here. And at number one. The hoop one. And this team would not have been one for me. But I never took it seriously.

Until I saw the odds skyrocket the other day. And then I had to think of the potential. What if Yannis had at a Kumpo? Gets traded to the Chicago Bulls. No way, it wouldn't happen.

The odds went from like 35 to 1 to 3 to 1 over the weekend. I don't know how that's possible, but if that were to be the case, I would spend the money I do not have and get a Giannis jersey today. Giannis going to the bowls. This is why it would affect me because Chicago is rent-free in my head. Of course.

Um The Chicago Cubs and Brewers played in a playoff series. I went to two of those games. I walked out of the stadium on my own accord for one of them. And they won that series. And it still destroyed me.

Was that a drop or your actual dog? No, that's an actual dog because my doorbell went off. Hey. Buddy. Yeah.

And he'll do this for at least five minutes. Oh, I probably should buzz it in because I am expecting something. Oh yeah, you do that. I can finish my balls.

Okay. I'm going to mute you for a second because of the dog. I don't want Yanis. I need to do this. I don't want Giannis to be a Chicago Bull.

I already had to live through the bullshit. With the Cubs. I had to live through then the bullshit with the Bears. And now the Bulls, who Chicago does not care about the way they care about the Cubs and the Bears. All of a sudden, they would move to the top of the list.

I'd have to watch those knuckle nuts. I'd have to watch all these people down there. They can't properly cover Giannis. Yeah. So The Bulls are number one.

So my list, who do I not want Giannis to be at? Um Honorable mention Lakers, Sixers, and Raptors. Number eight and seven are Pistons and Calves. Celtics and Pacers 5-6. Warriors 4.

Knicks 3. Heat, 2, Bulls. One Good list. Bulls is not going to happen. I don't think it is either, but the amount of people that have been.

talking about it the last 48 hours. I don't want to speak out of school, but can you put your dog down? I like down here on my couch or down here? Can you euthanize your puppy? I will kill you before I kill the dog.

I believe that. I kill I would kill many people before I kill I kill my dog. How old your dog? He'll die of natural causes soon enough. He's 12.

His birthday is actually in like. A week and a half. Oh. Yeah, he's uh he's a February 15th maybe.

So he'll be 12, I think. Yeah, it'll be 12. Hmm.

So I probably got another good three years if I'm lucky. I think my dog died at eleven. Ugh. Oh. This little bundle of joy is still acting like a puppy.

My kid's friend was telling me because we were walking home the same way. Uh one of these kids are telling me their dog just died at six and a half. She's the kind of dog is it? I don't know. Yeah, because that's a first of all, that's a brutal life.

But yeah, there's some breeds that they. They go out quick. What is it like the mastiffs, like the really giant dogs? They go out quick. Bulldogs go out quick.

Because they got a lot of health complications with them big ass heads and breathing and shit like that. And ugh. Man, I'm a single. Yeah, I don't think I'm making it past 60, so. I just need to outlive my mother.

And the problem is, I'm actually getting close to that age that she didn't make it.

So, um Yeah. Oh, your mom died young? Oh yeah, yeah. She passed away uh Fuck, she was either 53 or 56. I got to do the math, but yeah, she didn't hit 60.

So what were you when she died? This is a couple of years ago. I actually was overseas when it happened, I was on my honeymoon. I was on my honeymoon and I got a call from my brother. I'm like, what?

And we didn't cut the honeymoon short. It was like, I'm already here. Like I'm spending like thousands of dollars. I'm like. She's not going to get any more alive.

So I had to wake when I got back. The stream went dark. Yeah, but get me to 60. Yeah. Rahaf Yeah.

Yeah. Ha ha! Um Six seven's dead, by the way. Six seven. Perfect for this stream.

I was pretending I had a soccer game yesterday and I was lining up the kids and. I was pretending to show them a formation at halftime, but all I did was. Take the kid who's wearing the jersey six and line him up to the kid who was wearing the jersey seven. And there were all these kids looking at the I go, what do you guys see? Six, seven.

And they're like. Nothing. I got six, seven. And then I went, duh. And they didn't care at all.

And then I got five emails this morning that. Our kids are no longer playing with you on their soccer team. Hey, the history. We kick their ass. I never know what to do because we're either getting our ass kicked or we're kicking someone's ass.

There's no middle ground. There's never like a really hard to find a middle ground gene. Yeah. So I don't know what to do with that. Let's go to the comments as Carlos and I are coming at you live.

On a Monday, Groundhog's Day, saw his shadow. That's six more weeks. Yeah. I wish it meant six more weeks of severance check. Was your check lower than it was last time?

Because I was missing like 200 bucks. My check was, I don't know what to expect. I don't know if I'm getting another one. Yeah, I think I have like two more coming. Yeah, they were very unclear.

Yeah, yeah, they said they said eight weeks for me, but then they gave me an amount And I'm like. There's no way your guys are paying me this amount in eight weeks based on what you just gave me this check. You would need eight months. Yeah, and I can't check our pay stubs. I couldn't either.

They gave me a link. I'll forward it to you, but it's supposedly it's like, you know, some combination of our social and but. First name and all that crap, but it didn't work. Send it to me. Yeah, I will because I would love to see why my check was crap.

Well, you know, 'cause when you're like unemployed. But even doing this, like I'm hitting the ground running, I'm doing my podcast, we're pumping out episodes. But it's still nice that I have a check coming. Yeah, it's going to suck once that check stops. That's when it gets real.

You're like, oh, fuck, I really am unemployed. And now I'm like I shouldn't be sneezing at job opportunities and doing and not doing interviews that I clearly was getting interviews for, but. No, I'm like, I'm like, these are $7.49 for a six-pack now, these Mountain Dews. Yeah, that you're pissing money away. I think I got to go straight to water.

It's free. That's what's in this chuck, baby. That helped me lose weight. I've been restocking my house full. There's always a bowl of MMs and a bowl of Doritos filled in my kitchen at the same time.

And I'm like, Why can't I has lose weight? Yeah. Yeah, as I was housing a whole tray of Chinese food yesterday, I'm like, man, I'm so fat. I really got to start being better with my diet. Shrimp, pork.

Oh, I had chicken wings again and and it looked a it looked a little too chickeny, the wing. Uh Remember the one time I thought I got a chicken head and I just threw it away. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you took a lottery ticket and crumpled it up. Like, I don't need the money.

I did it again. Terrible. The wings are good. I don't want to shut this place down.

So I get a chicken in six months. You own it. you know shut it down no i ain't that way Let's go to Barts for some wings and use promo code BART.

Well, no, that, of course, is for Happy Place. Hemp, 25% off each and every order. We're talking the Seltzers and the Gummies. I've been drinking a lot of those. That I believe.

But I got the zero calorie ones. Ah, so it's not contributing to the weight. But then before I go to bed, like I said, the Bowl of Doritos and M's. Huh? Maybe I should leave out a bowl of like grapes.

Yeah, yeah, that's nature's candy. That's peaches. It's all it's fruit. It's all the same shit. All right, Stalis Tom, now that all the head coaches have been hired.

What is the best hire and the worst tire? Oh, that's easy on both fronts.

Well, you would think John Harbaugh. Yeah, 1,000%. That's not me being a Giants fan. He was the best coach available in this cycle. And I think it was the best opportunity for the Giants to possibly get back into the playoffs and rebuild some semblance of.

A proper football organization. And then Steve Tisch came around and fucked all that goodwill up. But no, it was still the best hire. I wonder where, because people keep saying. Like they did with Harbaugh.

If you fire him, he'll get hired in three seconds.

So I wonder if the Packers. Fired LaFleur, where would they have where he gets a job? I would still say Tennessee instead of Sala. Baltimore got Jesse Minter. He's not going there.

Maybe Atlanta. They got Stefansky. Kubiak to the Raiders. Maybe his brother doesn't get the job, and he's the Cardinals head coach. I thought if you're going to hire Joe Brady in Buffalo, you just keep McDermott.

That's such a downgrade. Terry Pagula just made a rash decision. It was emotional. He said he fired McDermott based on the feels of the locker room. Stupagoula was just pissed.

He made a bonehead Jerry Jones-like decision. And I was like. Fuck. I'm going to have to hire, I guess, Joe Brady to keep Josh Allen happy, but. That was such a lateral move.

And I don't even, I don't want to say it's lateral. Sean McDermott was a good coach. Remember what Buffalo was before McDermott got there?

Now, that's not the worst hire in the cycle. Worst hire for me, it is Michael Floor. And that's just because the Cardinals are going to be a dreadful job. And if you really hate Matt, you're really, really gonna hate Mike. And just want to remind everybody.

Mike LaFlore was the offensive coordinator for the Jets. And the Jets fired them.

So I don't know how highly he really is thought of in this league, but Arizona had to hire somebody. That job is going to be really bad for the next couple of years.

So I just by proxy, I think LaFlor was the worst coaching hire. McCarthy in Pittsburgh, Halfley in Miami, Monkin in Cleveland. But yeah, I saw Mike LaFleur. 6% of the coaches in this league are LaFleurs. That's too high.

Yeah. Should be 3%. Patrick says, Good to see you over the weekend. I ran into Patrick at Walmart in Fond du Lac. How about that?

Yeah. And I ran into another young man whose name was Josh. And he said. Are you Bart? Yeah.

And I said I am. But it was like a radio one. It wasn't like somebody I knew in Fondi. Mm. Patrick's, if he's still listening, he's probably listening during either his lunch hour or class he's teaching.

Uh but I saw Patrick. Good win for the Badgers this weekend over Ohio State. Shout out to North Fond du Lac. Robert says, I get your videos recommended to me from over a year ago still. Still looking younger.

Wow, how about that? High price from Robert.

Well, some of my early, early videos. Yeah, you you do look much better with facial hair. Like some of your TV reels, I'm like. Who is this slob?

Now at least look Dude. What? Oh, did you? Carlos, when you try to look put together and presentable, like in a professional setting. I'm here.

I got you. Since you're trying to shit on me. And so they go away. I can still move my hands. All right, I gotcha.

I gotcha. I have you. You are there. The wrong Yeah, I'm here. Yeah, I got you.

I am here. I never went anywhere. I never said you did. That was weird. Yeah, Tim can edit that in post.

What about look at this? Do I look worse here? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yes, they're like the same kind of excellence. No, like you look really disheveled there.

That is a I look disheveled right now. That is a bad thumbnail, man. I look like shit. Um oh, more from Tom. We are ruled by psychopaths and pedophiles.

Party affiliation does not matter. I'm glad he said that second statement because he's right. Yeah, and I look, guys. Because there's some people, you know, I've been tweeting things that I wasn't tweeting before. And people are like, oh, you lib.

This isn't about I I I am one of you. I am human man. We are not free. They know everything about us. These listen to everything we say and we didn't give a shit.

We fucked up. All right. Um Patrick again says, either trade for Giannis for as much as possible. Minnesota going forward. Oh, that's the other thing I wanted to bring up to you 20 minutes ago.

The Bucks don't owe you any shit. They have been Paying him! And doing right by him. For four years. Firing coaches.

Trading injured players. Bringing in Dame. All of this was to keep this window stretching game to get Miles Turner to compete. The Bucs have put their franchise into Irrelevancy. You've already given Ayannis what you've owed him.

You don't owe him his new destination. You do not owe him that. Your thoughts? Eh, it's fine. Then trade them in Minnesota and get the best package.

Yeah. Although they'll trade him out west. And then they're going to add these new teams, and Minnesota's going to come east. When Seattle gets added, Seattle and who, Nashville, or, you know, what team is in the East is going to get added? Q wants to know: Is there anywhere on that Giannis list that I would actually root against him?

He says, even if he goes to any of the Western teams, I'm going to cheer for him. I don't care if it impacts picks. Wow. I would cheer for Giannis. I I mean, I would not cheer for him anywhere in the East.

You will cheer for Giannis if he is a Utah Jazz. If he is a Houston Rocket. Yeah. If he is a Phoenix son. A future Seattle Sonic.

A clipper. of the Los Angeles variety, of course. And I want to say maybe a Portland Trailblazer and that's it. John says, go back to sports. Talking about dog and mom deaths are depressing.

Okay, hit live. Where that was 20 minutes ago.

Well, I'm catching up on comments. Alan says, question regarding the whole Giannis thing. Is there a way to fix this? Or is it too late? Can we blow things up, fire horse, and dock, and rebuild with Giannis in the offseason?

Yeah. We can. And that was why they pitched a gap here to him. Or There was the idea of that. There is a chance.

Giannis needs to say. Yeah, just, you know, I'm here. I'll sign another one. Let's get back on track. But it doesn't seem like he wants to say that.

And it seems like. He just wants to leave. He came here, got drafted here. Won a title here. In a quest to win another title, we gave We did everything we could to try to do that, to be competitive again.

Now it's all bad.

Now he's going to leave, go somewhere prosperous, and we're left picking up the pieces. No, no, no. We both, we bucks. IƱanis. You both got what you wanted out of that relationship.

You got... Two. NBA sanctioned titles. One Larry O'Brien trophy. But two sanctioned.

Titles. I don't think they owe him anything. Oh, the Brewers made some news. Oh, what did they do? Did they find some diamond in the rough and they got a contract for you know.

20 years and 40 bucks. Announced today local Brewers games will be produced and distributed by Major League Baseball, making games available to in market fans on cable and satellite television.

Well, that's good news for you guys. Basically, they're off of FanBuild Sports, it seems. Yeah, I think regional sport networks are going to die. I'm waiting for the marquee network to fold. Uh so I can start watching Cubs games again.

I mean, let's go back to the good old days when they were on WGN and WGN was everywhere. Like Turner, and you could watch the Braves in California. I want to watch the Cubs without. any of these stupid packages. I'm not spending $40 at Marquee so I can just watch baseball.

Am I an idiot? Does the Giannis Murrow come down if he goes to the Pacers or Bulls? That's from. I think you have to deface it. Yeah, I think you keep it up.

The Pacers and Bulls.

Well, you know what? Then you don't get mad at Giannis. You go mad, you know. He doesn't control where he goes. You get mad at the organization.

I think that's the best deal you can get. Do they gotta take the b They I know the deadline is Thursday. But that doesn't mean that's the deadline to trade Giannis. The in-season trade deadline is Thursday. As a Bulls fan, you can have anybody you want except Kobe White.

Everybody else is for sale. I think the Bucs Everyone's acting like they have to train by Thursday or they have no leverage. They have way more leverage if they wait till the summer. Yeah, that's where teams can start trading new draft picks. When it's time to scale your business, it's time for Shopify.

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And thanks again to Happy Place Hemp, to Dan Shaney, and to Carl's Place. I saw Micah Parsons golfing with Brandon Aubrey. In a golf simulator, he said, That's my kicker. I would hope that golf simulator they got, a simulator, came from Carl's place. Yeah.

I would also hope that Brandon Aubrey is a member of the Packers, and I wasn't aware of if you're Micah Parsons. I understand.

So far, we still have McManus and we still have Rich Persaccio. Ooh, Gianna staying for the next five years or 794 is demoed. Wow. That's a strip of highway that cuts through the downtown. And a lot of Yimbies like me want it taken down to connect the third ward and the downtown.

It'd be beautiful. But right now, the highway cuts into it. Yeah, I want to take it down too because, you know, it really. Just as Third world word and downtown it Yeah, it would look great. What's your least favorite part about seven ninety four, Carlos?

Um the fact that it cuts through downtown and third ward. It's really an albatross. It's like a black eye on the city. Yeah. It is.

Now, would you be upset? That those trying to get from the south side. to the suburbs. Might have to go through some city streets. They couldn't just jump on 794.

Have you thought about that? No, I think it would actually be good to boost the local economy. to have those drivers in our city streets. Um the highway just kind of circumvents possible business. support your small local business.

in the Milwaukee area.

So the Rumbo is fucking ass, huh? Oh my god, it was dog shit. Eight Mexican wrestlers. I don't want to say it like that because it makes me sound like a fucking racist. I am Puerto Rican, but I don't need eight Luchadors, especially like I haven't heard of six of them.

You know, there's Rey Mysterio. There's Rey Mysterio Jr. That's what I call Ray Phoenix. It's basically just Rey Mysterio Jr.

Now do you have two guys named Rey? Yeah, well, because it means king. Like, I get it. There's Mystery King, and then there's, you know, Phoenix. Oh, then.

Yeah, that's yeah, that's what Ray, yeah. That's what Raymond's theory. That's what Ray means. But then, like, all right, listen, if you want to get the legit Luja Libra wrestlers in there, fine. Again, no problem.

Once I saw this guy in a green skin-tight suit with an iguana, I'm like, what the fuck is this? This is iguana. But I was like, who is he? And why are we wasting this spot? You couldn't get Finn Balor in there.

But you can get Mr. Iguana and La Parka, which, by the way, is not even the OG La Parka and WCW. This is like La Parka fourth edition. They were just throwing spots away. But the biggest problem for me: El Grande Americano, one and two.

Yeah. Which the crowd had no idea what was going on. It did not. Worst storyline they've had since Hornswoggle GM. No, I don't know.

I think May Young giving birth to a hand might be half the top that. Then Hornswaggle is anonymous GM. I think one of the worst parts about the Rumble, because the women's rumble was fine. I actually thought it outdid the men's rumble. I thought the action was good.

I thought the pacing was good. The in-ring storytelling, there was not a lot. about the women's rumber that I did not enjoy. And I think Liv Morgan winning was the right call. Especially since she had two runner-off finishes.

Like, this is a good thing, and she's right now probably the hottest, figuratively and literally, hottest female wrestler right now.

So, good for Liv Morgan. I thought that was the right call. The men's rumble, I don't have a problem with Roaming winning it, I guess, because it seems like we're going to pretty much just run the triple threat back again, or maybe he goes against CM Punk. The results not a problem, but it was booked like absolute dog shit. Jey Uso coming in through the crowd instead of the gorilla position completely fucking zapped the juice of the in-ring action.

LA Night and Cody are over here. They're eliminating Brock Lesnar. And half the crowd is fucking doing this. looking away from the ring. I stepped away for a second.

I'm like, when the hell did Lesnar get tossed out? When they ran him back, he doesn't have to do it. He's a whole turn of his fist. There's too many gimmicks. There's too much party all the time.

Like the Rumble gets sick. Like I actually do like Jey Uso. But get serious sometime, man. Get serious. Like, let's get main event, Jey Uso.

I don't need the Yean 24-7. I thought that spot totally took away what was going on. And that was the most egregious thing in the Royal Rumble because there was like no juice. Lesnar got eliminated. We're like, okay, he's gone.

And that was it. Like, that's supposed to be a big fucking deal. No surprises. No, no surprises whatsoever. I mean, Gunther at 30 was the most unmasked man to go Braun Breaker because that's Triple H's only fucking move.

Yeah. Yeah, and then last time it was Austin Theory, and now I would assume it's Seth Rollins, but we can't assume it's Seth Rollins until we see that it's actually maybe it's somebody doing Seth's bidding. Like it was poorly booked. Uh, I broad breaker got obviously a raw deal. Like, they clearly wanted to like protect him, uh, and not get eliminated legit, but it was just so stupid, man.

It was poorly booked, and no surprises whatsoever that you cared about, Brie Bella. was the biggest surprise in the Royal Rumble. And that was in the women's match. It's funny.

So the women's match, my kid was. having a hard time figuring out who was who. Outfits. Because they all were dressed the same, essentially. Yeah.

That's because, you know, you're doing it in Saudi Arabia. What do you expect?

So I told him. Stephanie Vaquerto. Doesn't matter what But all of them can stick. I told him uh Yeah, the women, um The women can't show their skin here, bud. Mm-hmm.

And he's like, Why? I'm like, uh Yeah. I don't really know, but take a look at this hat. But one of the reasons. That we're watching the Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia is.

So, we no longer ask those kinds of questions. Yeah, seriously. Apparently, Liv Morgan got a little bit of trouble because, like, one she showed a knee, like, her outfit kind of messed up for a second.

So, dumb. I don't get it. Aye. Listen, you take any dollar that you can get, doesn't matter where it is, I guess. Hey, listen, if the Saudis want to start a raid, They want to have it there next year.

I g I don't know. But we got we got mania in Vegas this year, so. Let's enjoy that. Let's enjoy it while it's still in America. Because then, once it goes international, I don't think WrestleMania comes back to the States for another five years.

Well, the crowd was dog shit. Crowd was awful. Yeah, it's in Saudi next year.

So it'll be in Saudi next year. I'll predict it because you know what? They'll get a taste of the international market and they'll say, you know what? WrestleMania is a spectacle. We got all these hacks in the U.S., it's going to be Saudi Arabia.

Then it's going to be Paris. Then it's going to be London. Then it's going to be Germany. And then Mexico, because they'll finally acknowledge that, hey, we've been milking these AAA guys for so long. Let's throw Mexico a bone.

And then, I don't know, Vegas again. That'll be the next stop.

Well, remember, it was supposed to be in New Orleans this year. New Orleans is getting shafted. They're never getting the WrestleMania. Yeah, they pulled the rug out to go back to Vegas.

So New Orleans and Indianapolis both have T B A s But next year's gonna be ridia. Awful.

Well, I mean, the only good thing about it is I could watch it at two in the afternoon and just go on with my day. I did appreciate that. I was working while the Robo Rumble was going on. I'm like, oh, screw it. Dude, I'll watch it.

Can we get Carlos in on some Milwaukee wave talk? I listen, I've exhausted the extent of my Milwaukee knowledge talking about the albatross that is the highway. That connects downtown. Which you remember the number of the highway? Which it was 746.

Sure. Yeah. 769. 794. I knew there was a seven in there.

Yeah. All right, so next week we'll recap the Super Bowl. You got a Super Bowl pick. The Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, I went with New England.

I got the New England Patriots. What was the game I got right? I got the Bills beating Jacksonville right. Yeah, that's where I had it wrong. The only game I picked right.

The entire playoffs. The opposite for me. I was right pretty much everything, except for the Jags beating the Bills. I was wrong on that one.

So I'm gonna pit I I had New England right away. I think I'm Coming over to Seattle. Yeah, I had Seattle right away, but they all kind of betting with my heart. I just can't. I can't imagine a world post-Tom Brady and Bill Belichick that the Patriots are going to win a Super Bowl.

New England fans will be fucking insufferable. Yeah, I'd almost rather have Mahomes and Reed win another one than a new version of New England. When's the last time you run into an obnoxious Chiefs fan? They don't exist. And then if New England wins more, you're going to be like.

Oh, I hated your dynasty. And they'll be like, which one? And we'll be like. We'll be like, not the Drake May one, the Brady one. And they'll be like, which Brady one?

We had two separate dynasties. Har har har har. Fuck you, Boston. Yeah, let's go Seattle by 30. Oh, I was down at the bar.

Watching the game. Just got back. And now, were you actually in the bar? Were you at the game? You know, I figured we'd never hear from Barry in Boston again, but thank God.

I'm surprised Greg just kind of disappeared. Greg did not disappear. Greg has been calling shows on the new Westwood One Sports. Not on my Facebook page. He was never on mine because I lied to him and said I didn't have Facebook.

Surprise, Greg. Of course I have Facebook. I just declined a request. There's no fucking way I'd have you as a Facebook friend. No offense.

Are we Facebook friends? I think. Yeah, no, yeah. You requested me early, before I even got this job. Fuck you.

I did not. No, I'm dead serious. You requested me way early. Way early. You were one of my first industry friends that actually became a friend.

That was a Facebook friend. Oh, that's the other thing I wanted to talk about real quick. Unfortunately, we did not get named as one of the top 20. National shows. You think I even looked at the list?

I know Zach was named because I saw one of his posts. I was like, oh, great. And I saw Maggie and Perloff was named also. I would have been surprised if it was any third show. I almost guaranteed those two were going to be named.

That's. Pretty much how it works. They've gone to the events before. They were going to get named. How about me?

Can I guess? I didn't look at it. Can I guess some of the shows that were there? Yeah, I'm gonna share it right now. All right, because the BS, the BSM thing is a before you scroll in there, let me take a stab at it.

Because it's all one big industry circle jerk. I'm going to say number one. Don't think too much. It's either Colin Cowherd, Dan Patrick. or Stephen A.

I don't think it'll be Stephen A. um because he just had him as a guest recently so maybe he feels like he doesn't own anything I'm going to go. And I think Cowhert spoke a couple. I'm going to go Damn Patrick one. Cowherd 2.

And I don't know. What the hell is that? Oh, about save. That's it. All right.

Dan Patrick. Dan Patrick, I knew it. Cowherds 2.

Okay. Steven 83. Mad Dog.

Okay. I completely forgot about him. These are the top 20 national sports radio shows. And SiriusXM's got to have a bunch of them in here. As voted on by Barrett's listeners and readers and PDs.

Yeah. Rich Eisen comes in fourth. No, Jim Rome's gonna be right behind him. Let me siege. Jim Rome.

Let's go, boys. Come on. Who knows an industry circle jerk better than this guy right here? Yeah. Adam Shine.

Shine. What? Paul finds mom. Oh, God, that just speaks. There's even a wow, that's a lot lower than I thought it was going to be.

I I had D and Babs. There's probably another Mad Dog show in here, too. It won't be Amy Lawrence, though. Uh let's see. Unsportsmanlike.

Dude, ESPN radio's dead. This show is Like, if you're watching a Marvel movie and in the background, they need a sports show. That's what this fuck is. Unsportsmanlike is face six. Vino and Rich.

Nobody listens to Fox Sports Radio. There's Megan Perloff. Freddy and Harry. Castos Yeah, can't say anything, he's on my network. Bust it open.

All right, Dave. Way to go. Way to go, Dave. Good guy. There's our guy Zachel.

Hell yeah. Two pros and a cup of Joe. wasn't that oh no that's bury quin show i'm like wasn't mark sanchez on that no he wasn't Dusty and Danny in the morning. No idea who that is. Oh, is that Danny Cannell?

Dusty Dvorek. Yeah. That's a college show artist, you know. Doug Gottley. That show doesn't even fucking exist anymore because now he needs to coach.

And that's I assume that's a college show. 21 to 25 belonged to Moving the Chains, the Odd Couple, game night. Ben Malor and Amber and Ian. I worked on movie and j movie and chains for a couple of years. Hmm.

We'd I don't even know if we got a vote. Oh, probably not. Probably not. because uh because the show is actually good and you know listeners Ooh, PDs and advertisers don't care about. Oh, they like the show, so they weren't going.

You know, they weren't going to vote for us.

Well, with that, it's good to see you once again. We'll recap the Super Bowl next week. That's right. When the Seattle Seahawks will be crowned or defeating the New England Patriots, your final score of 34 to 24. 13.

We could also recap the Olympics. Sure. You got a USA hat on. Ah, Lindsay Vaughan. Is she gonna ski?

I thought she got hurt. No, I thought I thought that was the whole thing of her coming back, like coming back at 40. They're like, Prada. Yeah, but she just got hurt. Again?

Yeah, like last week. All right, well, then she's cooked. Felix's good. John says we're very missed at night. We're on John's top 20 list.

Yeah, that's right. Write an article about us. Thank you, John. And thank you all. Oh, on Tuesday's Winklerverse, a first time Winklerverse entry, er.

And I'm going to revisit The conversation we had when LaFleur. choked last year. And if his expectations because I keep saying that What's happening this year should have happened last year.

So we'll talk about that. And then uh picks with Horvat. I think we're gonna try to do that on Wednesday.

So, until then. Thanks to Carlos. Uh oh, uh probably. Trade deadline live. Probably.

It's got to make sure my wife's home. If Giannis gets traded, I'm lurking in the comments. Or my kid, I'll just let him watch YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Deadline show.

All right, I gotta take a shit.

Okay, bye. Got a lot of Doritos building up in here. And MMs. Check out my sub stack for a I have a sub stack where I just take pictures of my shit. Oh, that's not a subtle shot at anybody.

No, that's what I'm doing. All right. Thank you all for stopping into the Winklerverse. See ya. If you, your parent, or spouse served in the military, you could join our family.

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