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Packers overcome shaky defense, penalties, and LaFleur as Green Bay tops Arizona 27-23

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October 19, 2025 3:30 pm

Packers overcome shaky defense, penalties, and LaFleur as Green Bay tops Arizona 27-23

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October 19, 2025 3:30 pm

The Green Bay Packers overcame a shaky defense and penalties to win a game they should have lost against the Arizona Cardinals, thanks in part to Micah Parsons' three sacks and Jordan Love's solid performance, but concerns remain about Matt LaFleur's play calling and the team's ability to close out games.

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Good evening, everybody. Welcome into the Winkler Verse, and thank God for 61-yard field goals by Lucas Havelschick. Check. Cheek, choke. Uh 35.

As Jaden reads, tweeting he doesn't even know. This guy's name. I'm Bart Winkler reacting to the Packers beating the Arizona Cardinals 27. And uh thought for a good chunk of the game that When I did log on from my basement, Then we would be talking about a Packers loss. But the cardinals, unfortunately, Have their own demons a little bit worse than the Packers of their.

Own demons. Cardinals were a team that started 2-0, and they have not been able to close out. Football games. This was another example. Of that.

I did title the video Packers Overcome Shaky Defense Penalties and LaFleur. Let me start at the bottom and work my way back. First of all, Matt LaFleur. Plenty of things that I would have griped about. My normal LeFleur griping, I thought that.

His halftime interview, he was teary-eyed once again. I don't get it. I d I don't I don't get it. I don't get why I don't get, I just, I don't get it. You know, we all act different ways, and you don't want to read into how you hear everybody talk, but he's always quivering.

And looks like he's going to cry. And that's a big deal. Deal for me. I wish it wasn't. But it is.

Based on that alone. I don't I think we're going to win a Super Bowl based on halftime interviews alone. We've judged our coaches and players on less, I think.

So that's fine. But when they had a fourth and two and were going to kick the field goal. With about 234 left. They sent out the field goal unit. And he called timeout.

And then Jordan Love and the offense went back out there. He'll talk as I'm doing this. But I'd love to hear the explanation for that because. It doesn't really make any sense.

Now, I'm glad that he... Had the offense go. I mean, even if they kick a field goal, defense tells us a stop. It looked like. We probably would have lost on a field goal.

If the drive that the Cardinals had materializes the same way, Packers probably lose on a last-second field goal. Um So they brought out the offense. Jim says aggressive call and kudos to him. I think the issue that a lot of us have with the call is. Make it right away.

Because then by burning the time out. You've wasted a time out if you don't get it. If you don't get it, you got a couple of timeouts in the two-minute. Warning. But you've wasted that time out, so you're going to get the ball back with less time if you do get the ball back again.

So Yeah, they Ended up. I mean, this is my classic. Rewarded for bad behavior. Situation Is what that is. This is my classic.

They got rewarded for bad behavior. He should have just been confident enough to put the offense out there. Unless, look, I'm not an NFL head coach. As much as I try to think I could do it, I'm not an NFL head coach. Um maybe maybe this was their galaxy brain move.

Like how Patrick Mahomes is getting so much credit for being like, this play never works. Snap and first down. You know, maybe LaFleur is like: if I send out the field go unit. And then come on back. With uh The offense That'll trick them, and we'll get the first down barely as Tucker Kraft tiptoes on the sidelines.

Andrew, we won, Bart. Just enjoy it. After the Brewers, this isn't time to complain. LOL. Oh yeah.

I mean, 4-1 and what look. That's a Good enough point. Um They're four one and one. They got the win. And winning ugly is more important than losing pretty.

And I agree with you with that. I feel like there's a lot that they did that they probably should have lost this game.

So I will be I mean I I am happy. I mean, like, if you had a camera on me watching the game, you would see joy. Um Oh my god, the Broncos beat the Giants. Holy shit. They scored 30.

Oh my God. Excuse me. Oh my god, I was just checking because I was texting with Carlos. And so the Giants came back. Denver didn't score until the third quarter, and they scored 33.

Points in the How is that possible? How is that possible? Cause I Stopped watching red zone. All the games all day were blowouts. I stopped watching Red Zone and just focused on the Packers.

Like a good boy. And then I got a text from Carlos, Giants fan. Said I don't know, like I can't, or what the fuck, or something. And then I saw the Giants took the lead. But then the kicker missed the extra point, I saw.

Yeah. This check. Jeez. All right.

So, yeah.

So Packers are 4-1-1. And that is what is important. You're right. You're right. We can be happy about that.

They have the third best record in the league. They're 4-1-1. They tied a game they should have lost, and they won a game they should have lost. It's the Colts at six and one somehow. I got to start believing them then, and then at some point.

Um Buccaneers at five and one. And then the Packers are 4-1 and 1. Otherwise they'd be four and two with like Seven other teams.

So yeah. I am happy. Um That they that they want. My brother in Christ, you shit on him against Dallas playing for the tie. You shit on him against.

You must mean Arizona playing for the win. No, no, no. I'm glad they went. I'm not just going to see Matt LaFleur make a decision and complain about it 'cause he made it. I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad that they went for it.

I wish they would have just gone for it. Do you see?

Now it all worked out, so why even Why why talk about it? Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. But maybe not. That's just such a flawed thing that he did. That is insanely flawed what he did.

Now, I'm glad he changed his mind and did the right thing, and I'm glad it worked. Look, this is a smile. You see a smile out of me. I'm happy that they won. There's a lot of positives.

I'll get into it. I think Jordan Love, you know, he missed that early throw deep. I'm happy with Jordan Love. I'm just I'm just The title of this article was: Packers, or this video, is Packers Overcome Shaky Defense Penalties in LaFleur. And I think that that is true.

That's accurate. What I could title it Packers I mean, how would you describe the victory? Dominate? Packers control? Packers I mean, what?

This was this was a victory that they Should feel relieved to have gotten. No, look, I know. Everybody's always negative. I I know. I know.

But I'm not. I I have I have no qualms about that. Uh the penalties Terrible. Uh 10 of them. on the Packers.

And I think six got called. I just had it up, but then I switched to the Giants box score. Um and I you know there's a lot of things that like okay the Packers I wish you didn't have that penalty and you know, criticize about the penalties. 10 for the Packers, 6 for the Cardinals. But with the penalties in this game, that's a reference crew that calls penalties more than ever.

And also, that's the product that the NFL is choosing to give us.

Now could they say less penalties? Let people get away with more stuff. I mean, you don't want it to get blatant, but this is the product that the NFL is giving us. A flag-ridden Game. And then the defense, obviously, I mean, we'll all talk about Nate Hobbs and et cetera.

Although the defense did. Come up there at the end, and Micah Parsons with his three sacks. Massive.

So, credit them for coming up there at the end. Leaky. Swiss cheese. Bend don't break. But the game was on the defense to win, and then the defense was able to stop him.

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Okay, Ben L. Is looking good. And hot take Jake. Is in his car again? Yeah, uh So I just got home.

I went to a Water Street brewery in Oak Creek with a buddy of mine. And my wife has a friend over with her kids.

So, like, I'm going to just kind of wait out this car situation as long as I can. Oh, okay. It's not like I don't like her friend, I just I don't like people. Yeah, you went to a bar to watch the game. Yeah, but I like cool people, you know?

And I was just with one person that I like, you know. And as we all know, if there's one place cool kids hang out in this area, it's. Water Street Brewery in Oak Creek. I mean, they got good burgers. It's close by.

You know, I'm not going to divulge my location because I know there's at least one stalker that watches this podcast, but. Yeah, there's nothing. There's read the comments. It does not.

Well, since you're talking, your thoughts on the game?

Well, that's definitely a game that if you play in a good team, you lose that game. But you can't apologize for winning in the NFL, and especially you can't apologize for winning on the road in the NFL.

So, I have a buddy of mine who's a really, really big Cardinals fan. And I told him ahead of time that you should hope that Kyler's not ready to go because Brissette is a better quarterback to beat Green Bay. Green Bay actually has done pretty well with the mobile quarterbacks, and Murray is kind of a guy that he doesn't like to stick in the pocket. As soon as it breaks down a little bit, he takes off and he can make some wacky plays. Kyler would have done better on that last drive where Brissette was throwing him into the ground.

I think so, but I don't think. Tyler has them in position to win on that last drive, to be fair. Um Micah Parsons won this game single-handedly for us.

So thank God for him. That was great to see. And, you know, While I'm not Whipple of floor.

Okay, I'm trying to choose my words carefully here. He won the game. But my thoughts that he will never win a Super Bowl Even after a week win are only more reinforced after today. His play calling is just odd at times. Again, that cosplay had me, I was laying down most of this game.

Cozy under a blanket. Cuddling with my son. And they toss this play. And I love out all the G D's and J C's and And I'm just and I was calm the whole game. And, you know, cause like you don't want to be.

I don't want to be like. sports fan always yelling and screaming and After everything and Uh, my wife went out for a little bit during the game, and then I was very calm. And then, as soon as she comes in, it's the toss play, and I'm back up there, like, you know, stereotypical Packer fan screaming at the T V thinking. That she's thinking that I've been doing this the entire time, and I was not, but that made me angry. Yeah, you know, it's just I don't understand.

You have a guy like Jacobs, and LaFleur is borderline obsessed with moving laterally when trying to run the ball forward. I don't understand it. I think he really thinks he's super smart with some of these play calls, but beyond the play calling, Again, it was such a, you put that eloquently, Bart, where you're getting rewarded for bad behavior. with blowing the time out. Um There was another play, I think they used another timeout where It would Arizona came up just a yard shy of first down.

It was fourth and one. And Green Bay had to call a timeout because it was like, oh, wait, you're going for it? Like, what do you mean? Like, you need to be ready for that. That's that's the sign of an undisciplined team.

So, uh, yeah, they got away with a win.

So that is good. That division is starting to get tight. You know, we're moving further into the season.

So that's amazing. But yeah, my thoughts that there's a glass ceiling with this team as LaFleur, we're with LaFleur as the head coach. Nothing has changed there. It's just, I hope to be eating a lot of crow one day, but I really don't want to stick around to be proven right even further. Ben, good to see you again.

Great hat. Great hat. Thank you. What do you think? Yeah, two things can be true.

In the words of Bart Winkle. Yeah. We can have a bad coach and still win a game in spite of him. I think the formula to beat the Packers was a little bit on display today with McBride just. Dinking and dunking, and making plays all over our defense, and Hobbes is.

Really suspect. Um It's a win. You know, we had a great defensive win. Parsons saved the day, had some great sacks. Made his money for sure today.

And I mean we gotta win.

So I'm not mad. I'm impressed that they came back, they fought through, and they pulled out the W. Have have they not I think it would be a pretty large swing of the needle the other direction. They kept it good. Four, one, and one is good.

Can't complain about 4-1-1-1. other than the tie, you can complain a lot.

Well, and I think the the best part about any of this is that um We are getting the chance to once again. It's been a while. Matt in the Falls Hello. Matt in the fall. Matt in the falls.

Matt in the falls. Matt in the falls. What's up, Matt? Feel the excitement. Matt in the falls.

Oh, I'm about to take the energy down, I'm afraid. Oh, no. What do you think? What do you think, Matt? This team stinks.

Ha ha ha ha. This team stinks to high heaven. I don't know how this is the worst four, one and one team in the history of football. I don't know how it's possible. Matt in the falls.

Matt in the falls. Ooh. Jake's all about it, though. He just needed a little launching point. I loved Micah Parsons, though.

The third sack of the night gave me goosebumps. Without him, I don't know where we are. Yeah. That's Matt in the f what are you sh shitting me?

Sorry, I was talking to the friend that I was trying to avoid. She came out and I came up to my car and I had to talk to her, but mad, dude, I didn't know you were alive. What's up, man? Getting his name. How's you, you handsome little W.

Oh, thank you. I've lost a lot of weight. Congratulations. Thank you. I love you too, Ben, by the way.

I don't want to just not spread the same. How much did you lose? Uh forty-six pounds so far. What him? Yep.

Be shit. I mean, your face does look, I guess, thinner, but I don't see your body. This is all the camera, you know, all this extra wings. Show it. Prove it.

I'm not, I'm not going shirtless. Maybe another time.

Next time I'm in the bathtub. I'll be in the bathtub next time. Do you have any tricks of the trade? Uh Eat fewer calories than you Um Views. Calories in, calories out.

Yeah. Yeah, there's all these oldest time. That's the been the thing that is whenever You know, calories in, calories out does it. Yeah. Three meals a day.

Makes it easier. Skip breakfast? I skip breakfast. Mostly, yeah. Have an apple maybe.

I eat at noon and I eat at 5.30. That's not bad. Mm-hmm. And then uh no late night snacks, no Wendy's trips after the show. That's the hard one, the late night snacks.

No, I try and I'm usually pretty good. That's good. Usually pretty good. Packle Bell 2K menu is a killer. It is.

They got the double decker back and the seven layer burrito. Chili cheese burrito. with sour cream all day. Matt, you got any more you want to expound on those thoughts? I can read some comments, or we can.

I mean, we don't have. There's nobody that excites me at wide receiver. I mean, Golden looks good. Um but I don't like When Jordan Love throws it downfield, I don't really get excited. It's more of like a what's going to happen type feeling.

As the ball's traveling through the air, because we don't have that guy where I'm like, okay, it's going to him. He's going to bring it down. It's just like, oh, well, who knows? His dog's going to catch it. I don't know.

I feel like, and I'm a big Jordan Love, you know. Proponent defender. He's going to be. When he throws at the sideline, it does feel like that ball's in the air for fucking ever. But that sideline pass to Golden on was that third and Four.

It just hangs. The one to craft was the really bad one. I thought it was nice. Oh, I know which one you're talking about. I thought that was gonna get uh I thought that was going to be a pick six, but the one the craft that went through craft's hands.

That's not on love, is it? No, I'm talking about the, it was to the bottom of the screen as we were watching. Yeah, bottom right to golden, or whatever you want to call it. I have a friend that. Just every time Jordan Lovedum does something bad.

I get a message about this guy sucks, no football smarts. Um going all the way to criticize his demeanor, wondering if he doesn't care. I mean I just like constantly watching the game. Is his name Ryan Horvat? No, no, no.

When Jordan Love does something, I'm like, oh, here comes the text. And sure enough. And then the second half I got no text. That's good. Love has been lights out all season statistically.

There's been a few. Bad plays, but I mean, you're not going to get perfect quarterback. We had a 93 rating today. That's lower than normal. He had 179 yards and a touchdown.

Jacobs did play. 13 of 55 two scores. Dobbs somehow had six catches in there. Kraft came alive late. Golden, it looked like was going to be a big part of the game.

And then what's Wilson's stat line? I think he's getting too much run personally. I know that Jacobs is injured. Yeah. But where's Lloyd?

Where's somebody else?

So You know, take some weight off the rubber. Yeah, six for 17 for him. A dealing lawyer in campaign. The fumble was huge. I just want to make sure I mention all the good things.

Because right away I was getting bombed with uh I'm being too negative. Good thing I could take that away from you.

Well, I mean They won a game. Yeah. So it says like I remember so I remember I took off once against I went to Jacksonville, it was week one. And if Radio Joe is listening, I love you, I miss you. He filled in for me.

And the first thing he said was like, okay, Packers won, but there's a lot to complain about. And people are like, oh, fucking Joe's complaining and this shit. And I'm like, well, was there, I mean, Yeah, it's first game of the year, so you get happy.

Okay. But it shouldn't be if they win, let's talk about all the good, ignore the bad. And if they're bad, let's talk about all the bad, ignore the good. I think there's bigger goals here for this team. It's the same reason when.

Buffalo skates by teams or loses to teams. People are like, well, what's what's there's a difference between the Bears Being foreign too. And scraping by. Are they? They're learning to win.

And they should be excited about that. It doesn't really matter how they win. With the Packers Yeah, I mean you still want to win rather than lose, but Are there like And, you know, they got a whole year to work on it. But That shit LaFleur, like that, that. Where's the confidence in love right away?

That's what I'm saying. Where's the confidence in your offense? Why don't you make that decision first? No, I guess I should give him credit because he showed growth by doing the right thing or the thing that works, but you. You wasted a time out.

Oh, I'll give credit to this comment. Let me give this let me let me let me give credit. Let me give credit. Um Nice job by LaFleur calling a play to get into field position for a field goal attempt. At the end of the half.

Is that true? was a huge difference. Playing that game. And do we have a There's nothing we need to be positive about. I think this team, a lot of LaFleur team starts slow.

In years past, this team might have been two and three. right now um and they're four one-on-one so that's a positive Jordan Love generally has been a slow starter in the early seasons that we've seen him. And so far, he's been really, really good to start.

So, if he's going to get better as the season goes on, like he typically does, maybe we're on a better trajectory than we're used to. And again, I know we brought up Micah Parsons. Like, besides the three sacks, the dude had like 15 pressures today. I mean, he put the defense on his damn back.

So, there's plenty to be positive about, but. There's still a lot of old habits that we hate to see. And that's my biggest point. It's like. Come on, dude.

You're too far in now. You got to stop this shit. Jim says, I think we finally got LaFleur to be more, Matt, I think we finally got LaFleur to be more aggressive. And if that's with hesitation, effort. Um Going for fourth down was a great call.

Stielberg JT, I'll give them this. They showed some actual grit. In the second half. Uh Jake? Uh where's everybody dipping out here?

Bobby, offense seems to flow better when they just pound it to Jacobs and hit Kraft. rather than that cute shit Matt LaFleur calls sometimes. Yeah, I want to comment on the craft stuff. I I think it's working really well. But if a team figures it out, we're going to be in a little bit of trouble.

Because right now he ran the same red zone play against the Bengals. And against the Cardinals this week to craft. You know, doing a quick block and then release to the right for like a 10, 15 yard touchdown. And It works. I mean, I don't think they can stop it.

But if someone figures it out, what's What's our plan B? I think it should be Jacobs up the middle, but We'll see what he does. I think it's a good play. I just hope that it keeps working all season. Mike says, that was certainly a football game.

Bruce City says it's a win. It's about the journey. It's week six, LOL. I believe it was week seven of the NFL. Yeah, what's up with Quay?

I don't know, yeah that Who's his backup? I don't know. I don't know that.

Okay. John says Rogers 300 yards next week. I'm not betting against that. Gotcha. Yeah, Roger's certainly going to be motivated.

He was motivated against Flacco, and then the fact that he lost that game. Rogers is going to be motive. He's going to try to go. Farve Raiders. The night after Irv passed.

DK is gonna light us up. And what I mean by that, not to be insensitive, But what I mean by that is far if you remember that game, Was just chucking shit down the field, but his receivers worked for him. They did. That was a great game. I got a little bit of goosebumps thinking about it, but Uh I almost threw the fire jersey on today, decided against it 'cause it's white.

What? Feels like it was Never mind, don't want to get it dirty.

Okay. I thought Quay Walker played really well today. Our front seven is good. That's something to move forward with. That's from Charles.

I like the new kicker because McManus can't even sniff 60 yards. I don't know about that. Did you talk about the football being different for the kicking game now versus the ball used in Liverpool? In the regular Yeah, so the ball had the last few years they've had a K ball.

Okay. Kicking ball, but this year. The K-ball you could only use during the games. And now this year they let like they let him just have it. Which I don't know that that's a big, like, is that not a story that should be?

There's a different ball they use on a different play. Why? Yeah, I would think that's could get more media attention or more attention in general that These kicks are going further, they're making them from longer distances. Because of this special ball. Just like Tom Brady had to flake gate, this is Cable gate, I guess.

But nobody seems to mind. Like if I was an old kicker, all these records are being broken. Yeah, yeah, that's. I mean, who had the record? Crosby?

Yeah, they got a 59-yarder, maybe. Oh, for Green Bay, yeah, that's kind of disappointing. Crosby's probably Out for that one. I think it was. Like, I've been kicking with.

I had to kick with that hard. That hard but now you're like They're like nerf balls. They're not they're not the same.

So they're a lot worse. Um for sure. What else you got, Ben? Anything else? Just really impressed with Micah Parsons today.

Think that was the The game changer MVP for us. Um yeah, it is a win. We're four one and one and As Packer fans we complain a lot. I would like to walk away from a win. and talk more about like a few things that we can improve upon instead of so many things that we can improve.

Fine. But it is week six, so Next week will be fun. I'm excited for that. Yeah um Next week's gonna be insane. Yeah.

Packers Steelers. I almost don't. I don't think we've been really thinking about it. At least I haven't. I haven't either, but Rogers has been phenomenal and I The Steelers, I wanted to call into your national show because you talked a little bit about their range of outcome.

I can't think of a team that has a wider range of outcome. Like they could. From the table Rogers could get hurt, they could go a 50, you know, 500. But it's it's just interesting how Tomlin Never has a losing season it seems. The Browns got to win today.

That shakes things up. Maybe the Bengals are alive. I wouldn't have to do it. Are the Browns back? No, bad.

Are they actually bad? Like...

Well, it's hard to tell when you beat the Dolphins. Yeah. I guess it doesn't tell us much. But are the Colts good? The Colts, yeah, I don't think so, but then now they went, they beat the.

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Oh my god. Of all the people that'd be saying this. What'd he say? Uh Aaron Nagler, LaFleur on the decision to try and push for the field goal. At the end of the half.

Scared money don't make money. He said that? Let's turn back the clock to the Cowboys Packers tie. With one second left. And he just kicks the field goal.

Yeah. Scared money don't make money. Is that what he said? That's a Sounds like a t-shirt. Scared money.

Don't make money. I guess I think he's feeling himself a little bit too much for beating a. Cardinals team without a starting quarterback. I mean, I don't think that Brissette Gives them an edge over Kyler. I think that's a little bit of a hot take from Jake.

I think you will. had a lot more trouble with Tyler Murray. Wow. Unbelievable. Scared money don't make money.

All right, I'm going to head out. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for watching. Hopefully fall into the national show one of these days. All right, I'll be there.

I'm just working on a Tweet Um That I'm so proud of. I use the financier meme to say Matt LaFleur, the guy who plays for ties. I'm so witty. Funny. Clever.

A lot of women like me. A lot of A lot of moms at the school pickup line wish that They would have met me Sooner. Why do we always go for 35 plus when we need three or less on fourth and third down? That's from Justin. I don't know.

Really I mean, I don't I don't know. I don't know. It works when it works. It's like it's third and one. Third and one.

Um let's run the toss play to Not Jacobs. All right, fourth and two. Love. Chuck it deep. Works every time.

Bobby, Aaron Rodgers thrives off revenge and proving people who didn't want him wrong. I would not be surprised if he throws five touchdowns unless Parsons gets after his ass. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers has done a great job. Finding that chip on his shoulder. And Motivating himself.

To Prove to those who have slighted him or have wronged him in any way. That you made a mistake. You either doubted me Or Passed on me. Or Didn't believe in me, didn't want me in free agency. Rogers is really, really good at that, except when it's the 49ers.

Rogers is really, really Good at that. Just looking for other comments. Um And I'm still scrolling through the comments. Stalis Tom, how about focusing on Golden that first quarter? And then Matt LaFleur forgot he was on the team.

Yeah. I mean, I captained him in my DraftKings. I would have liked some more stats. Uh there. Thank you, Cardinals, for focusing on McBride.

Helped to remind LaFleur that he is a really good tight end, too. It's Dallas Tom. You've done it again. Stallus time. Packers win 27 to 23.

Jordan Love, good. Josh Jacobs, needed. 13 carries, was that enough? Had a pitch count on him early, but He banged it in when they wanted. I wondered at the end of the game.

And maybe a lot of you did. And I'll give LeFleur credit for this because I am glad they did what they did. Um Would you have when the Packers had the ball? Would you have they had a first down at the one? Minute 50 to go.

Would you have Trident Let the Cardinals lose their timeouts. And I don't think the timing on that would have really. Help.

So there was Cardinals at three timeouts, Packers at the ball with a minute 50. Josh Jacobs ran it in. Uh right away. And that was good. They scored.

They could have like sort of ran it in or tried to run it in or Yeah. Pretended like they ran or kneel knelt down, kneeled down. and then try to score on like third or fourth down. Because then the Cardinals would have been using their timeouts. Packers still would have got the touchdown, and then when the Cardinals get the ball back.

Uh they don't have any timeouts to play with. I think the Packers did the right thing. I think you got a score. I think you got a score. There could be a turnover.

You just got to score.

So it was something that. I thought maybe if um It didn't happen. You could uh If they didn't win, you could go back to that. But the Cardinals had three timeouts. If they only had one timeout, maybe you get a little crazy.

Because they would be forced to use it. But I'm good with how that played out. Obviously, even more so that they Got the win. Carl says LaFleur is to be the most overrated play caller in the league, twice running the ball on short yardage on his shotgun.

So dumb. At some point, you know, I'd almost like Jordan Love to just be like, forget this, man. I'm not. I I'm not tossing the football. I'm not.

If you want to give it to Josh Jacobs and take it out of my hand. I am not tossing. The football. I will pass on that. Scared Money Don't Make Money, uttered by Matt LaFleur.

That is unbelievable. Packer said his confidence in Jordan Love drove the decision to call the timeout. When our quarterback is coming off, and I can see the disdain on his face, no matter what we call, this guy's going to make it work.

So, okay, silver lining, maybe. Maybe now you believe in your quarterback. that you paid $55 million to. It doesn't matter what you and I say about Jordan Love. It doesn't matter what I'm getting texted about Jordan Love.

It doesn't matter what anybody says about Jordan Love. Because there's one guy who doesn't believe in his quarterback, and that's Matt LaFleur.

So hopefully Now this is what it took And God knows what would happen. If LaFleur went out there and didn't execute or Love went out there and didn't execute. Then you never get another chance.

So It ended up working, and maybe it all works out because now he's got more confidence. Let's love B, like I said, say it with me, say the line, Bart. Getting rewarded for bad behavior. When talking heads talk about a trade leading to wins, Goody bought his team a win this week. Uh Micah Parsons.

I slightly feel bad for any offensive lineman one-on-one versus Parsons every single time his dude not double-team. He's either pressuring or sacking them. The guy on him was lost. And that's what they probably knew he can't hold Micah Parsons this week because they were. They were bitching about it.

John says, man, you are going to, man, are you going to get your ass kicked next week? At Pittsburgh? Who knows? Anything's possible. Um I'll take the Packers for a dub.

We underestimated how good Rogers was at checking out of LaFleur's bad play calling. Why does Travis LaFleur get cute in big moments? I don't know. It's like there's things that. He has to do.

Maybe he's got like a O C D or something. There's things that I have to do like I didn't want to tell you. There's fucked up things that I...

Sometimes, if I'm walking, I'll be all of a sudden my habit: if you go this way, you live, and if you go this way, you die. That's pretty fucked up, right?

So I did tell you. But is LaFleur like? I need to call a toss in this game. Is it like don't break don't step on the cracker, you break your mother's back? Don't call a toss, and everyone you know will be lost.

I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. Packers get the win. Packers get the win.

We are happy. I think we said a lot of positive things, did we not? We said some positive things.

Some of the things that we're concerned about. Showed that We should still be concerned about those things. There's maybe some new things to be concerned about. There's maybe some other things to not be concerned about. But they got the win.

They're 4-1-1. They did not give up 33 points in the fourth quarter of a football game. I cannot believe that. I gotta watch the highlights. Man, I cannot believe that.

But a good week, especially after what had happened with Milwaukee. Um Sad that they lost on Friday night. I was hoping to at least watch them one more time and have them lose on Saturday. No way it was going to game six. But they got the win.

We're happy about that. And we move forward, and we have the Steelers. Uh next week. Not sure what the podcast schedule will be this week. Image song, the Cacian, and all the brewers to talk about.

I'll try to slap something together. Otherwise, uh we will be live after Packers Steelers. No doubt about that. Thank you all. Get in the voicemails 402-915-BART.

Get your happy place hemp purchases. Look in the YouTube comments. There's a bunch of other stuff that I have links for.

Some I'm just finding out about. But as always, go pat go. And thank you for stopping. Into Wait. John, is this the John that's been shitting on like John?

I get it. You're a Bears fan? Stop messaging me. Every place I go. The Brewers Suck.

B Packers suck. There you go. All right.

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