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It's great to be here. Uh we we can't show emotion. Chicago Chicago Chicago says we can't show emotion. Nobody can emote. I have a question about this, but yes.
It's a deal. It's a playoff game. This isn't even that big of a show. It's just a it's literally a random Tuesday. It's Random Tuesday in October.
It's a big deal. Can't even Can't even can't even can't even emote.
So what what percent of like cubs Universe. Carl Zimbrano threw a no-hitter in that same ballpark, but Yeah. What percent of Cubs fans actually are feeling that? Or is this like 0.1? Really?
This is like it's like a prevailing like hey. Calm down.
Well, it's not about Jacob Mizarowski. It's about your team losing. Yeah, like another guy like how many times have a guy like Russell Wilson running down the field or You know, you can think of a bunch of different guys. And it's just because they're not on your team and they're excited and you're not. Yeah.
Now, yeah, it was. I said this last night. Grant Bill's Paul Emmig alongside here on the show. This fine show tonight. Thank you for having us, Brad.
Bart.
Sorry, I'm tweeting at Brett. I'm quote tweeting a Brett right now. Thank you for having us, Bart. Yeah.
Take it. Tyler, can you edit that and post? Oh shit. Um But I said last night. Jacob Mizarowski is going to lead the league.
In People being mad at him for things he like like innocently does or is no part of. Everybody's mad at him for being an all-star. You know, he didn't petition the league to become an all-star. Right. Nine guys said, no, that's cool, boss.
And then he's like, yeah, that'd be great. And then kind of cool. He's a young kid. The stadium is charged up. And I saw Cubs fans.
Shitting on Murphy for saying, like. It felt like a home game in there. Yeah, it should always feel like a home game. Yeah, well you buy all the tickets, dude. You may like you like we're not We're not ignoring.
That you don't come up here in droves. Right. We've never, I mean, the brewers themselves charge more for your games for parking. We've never not said, like, I don't know. They're telling me there's Cubs fact.
I only see Brewers fat. We've never pretended like it didn't happen. We just don't like it. Can you imagine if Matt LaFleur was the Brewers' manager and had to say, like, hey, Shout out to the The gold package fans tonight, baby. Oh man.
Well, maybe if Man LaFleur was the brewer's manager, this problem would have been solved a long time ago, though. He'd be like Andy in the office when he takes over reception and he loves it way too much. He'd be like, hey, when's the promotions meeting? This bobblehead makes more sense after we do the crew neck giveaway, don't you guys think? I like it.
So I'm excited that they're up 2-0. I mean, I'm still not like. I still want the series to be over. Before I have any personal joy. Yeah, I'm I but it's been fun and going to the game was a Blast.
Did that happen last minute? I don't know the story there. Me going to the game. The Saturday game one. Um One of my kids Friends, dads.
And I say that, but he's a friend too, you know, it's like. Yeah.
But he texts a group of dads like, Hey, anybody wanna go? Because he bought a Four pack for the playoffs. Oh. And I was, and nobody was answering. And I was like, I did a John Cena meme where he goes.
He raises his hand. And he's like, all right, you're in. Yeah.
And then I thought I wanted to take my kid, but then I didn't know what the game was gonna be and he was He's like, I didn't want to go. And then the game happened. And then he's like, I wish I was there. And Oh.
Okay. What was that? 200 was that 200 level? Yeah, 200 level. We found a guy um I had a lot to drink alcohol-wise.
What? But we found a guy. We found a guy who... During the national anthem. Uh My brother went too.
And She was pouring his drink during the anthem. Ooh, that's actually okay, bad, bad, bad. My guy wasn't though. My guy. Um with like a mullet situation.
My guy was full salute. Goddamn right. And I'm like, okay. And then he poured the drink. And he poured more.
He didn't like measure the cup. He poured enough where it's like, oh, if I'm gonna pay $30 for this drink. I feel like I'm actually getting a $30 drink.
So we kept going back. Obviously, drank too much. Um But had fun. I remember the game, so that's not in question. Don't remember going home.
Yeah.
Nah, I'm kidding. Them riding or driving. Oh, I don't drive.
So this was not a s a Rockies 2018 situation is what you're saying. I didn't fall asleep in the ninth inning, no. I was alert. It's the playoffs, guys. That was also the playoffs.
Yeah, then that's why it's fine. It's the playoffs. Let's take a drink. Cheers for the playoffs. Uh-huh.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Uh, what did you want to talk about regarding the big game? I didn't feel like we were. I didn't I didn't I didn't know if you thought I was done or if Paul was picking it up or Grant, you pick it up. What it's not my job here. Yeah, you need you're supposed to ask a question.
It's called We got so far away from the bit, we. We're out of the bit. We're into the show. This is only a six-minute opening. Usually, then Grant will say an owl, and then okay, then 12 minutes opening.
I wrote an article that you got to get right into it.
Well then you already lost. We've already lost. We've already lost. Uh There's a little I wanted to say Jacob Mizrowski is. a real problem with these emotions.
You kind of got that one. What's the problem?
So is it Hindsight being hindsight being notwithstanding. on the decision that Pat Murphy made with the Aaron Ashby thing and the the decoy Quinn Priester and the bullpen thing. It didn't, it didn't. I mean, it worked in the sense that they won the game. It didn't work in the sense that Ashby gave up three runs in the first inning, but.
Um You have enjoyed the way that Pat Murphy has managed these first two games. It's made sense. The wind, notwithstanding, like, duh, it's worked. Yeah.
You're enjoying the Pat Murphy experience in this. opening part of the playoff run. Mm-hmm. I'll tell you and I'll tell you why. Um first of all, Grant.
Ah, this is all this is a broken record, but loved a tweet that you had. Where you're like, Mizorowski, this might work because when it's actually down the middle, Cubs fans are like, The Cubs are like, What do you do? What the hell? I don't know what to fucking do with it. When they see it coming right down the pipe, they're yeah.
Like effectively wild is the term. Yeah.
Um what I liked was And maybe it's because they started with a leadoff Homer. on Saturday and the Brewers came back and scored six. Yeah.
And I didn't expect Andrew Vaughan to tie the game in the first inning on Monday night, but Yeah. When the Brewers were down 3-0. I didn't feel like it was anywhere close to over.
Okay. And that is not something that I think has been typical. The zone glitch pregame bash is back. Tim? Damn.
Dev James is going to be busy today. I'm excited for the zone Blitz picking cache or whatever that was though. My bad.
Sorry. I did do Bill's show today. I have everything set up differently in here. It's fixed now. Jeez.
Can I have one mistake? How'd it go? Did you tape some interviews for your later show? Three of them things, yeah. You didn't feel like it was over.
And I can't imagine, even if you talk to Cubs fans. And it's funny too. We still loved council. Up until the end. And I know the three of us had a show where we were pondering.
The thought of Wondering if Like we we went all breakfast at Tiffany's on it like I think, what about Like I think we both kinda Where we're like, do they need a new voice? Yeah.
Do they, but we never, we were still, we weren't saying they need a different voice because. We don't like Craig Council. We were still in it to the end. Hubs fans. I feel like they don't.
I mean, they're, but then again, he's also making $8 million. He kicked off David Ross off the team. Yeah.
And I was talking with Rami last night on the score. Uh as they were Airing Rami before the Cubs broadcast, and we were talking about Justin Turner leading off. Yeah.
And I said, um You know, he's responding to Ashby starting. But these are $8 million decisions now. Like, this is what you're paying Craig Council to do. And you're against Pat Murphy.
So this entire series However, it plays out, and I'm again cautious to celebrate anything. Yep. But It's two guys that know each other. As well as you can in baseball. I mean The guy was his coach.
And then he was on his staff. You know, so You know when you're like playing I don't know, maybe Madden. The best is chess, but nobody plays chess. Paul probably does. I actually wish I did, but I don't.
Um, but you know when like you're In a competition with someone you know very well. You're thinking.
Well, I know what they're going to do, so I'm going to do this. Yeah.
But then you're thinking But they know I'm gonna do this.
So, I'm going to do this because they think I'm going to do this. And then you get to a point where it's like, All right.
Well, he's gonna throw that guy, so I'm gonna put this guy. At the top of the lineup, which means he's then going to do that. And I think he thinks I'm going to do that then, but I'm actually going to do that, which he'll probably think.
So he might just do that.
So then you're all the way back to like. Are you even outsmarting anybody or are you just Have you just then come up with this insane scenario that never would have been a thing? And you're just you just end up with I don't know. I'm going to lead off Justin Turner, all right? Think.
Yeah.
You know, like there's no rationale. The pieces don't fit. You just try to come up with the most. Random thing that you can.
So to answer your question. I think every Cubs fan, if they could have a Choice. Like, would you rather have Pat Murphy? Manage the rest of this series for you? Who's saying no to that?
You know? Yeah.
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After the Brewers won game one, Grant. I don't know if you commented about this before the announcement of Ashby. But what would have been your five Top five guesses. as to how Murphy would have managed the rotation for game two. I would have to.
Priest or Cantana. Right. So like where would have where would have what he actually did? ranked ahead of the game. Probably not that far down.
Really? Ashby is.
Well, Ashby is an opener.
Well, they led Priester. They preempted Priester with like D.L. Hall and Chad Patrick earlier this year. Sure.
So after Quintana and Priester, who were really the only two legitimate, viable official starting candidates left, because it was, I couldn't see them starting Miz. The next option would have either been Chad Patrick or Aaron Ashby.
So it would have been on the board. I probably wouldn't have bet on it, but it would have been on the board. Isn't it strange though that And granted, I defer to you on a lot of this because how much you know and how much you follow the team and how closely you are with it. Isn't it a a little bit strange that um as having had a buy out of the wild card round. And having had played one game in the past.
10, 12 days, somewhere in that range, 10, however many days it was between the end of the regular season and game two. What was it? Nine days? That this was like the best they had for game two. That's strange, right?
Like, I It wasn't until it was happening that I felt like, oh shit, like on nine days' rest. or whatever it was in between this happening. This is their game Two And again, I'm sure it has something to do with like, well, we'd rather have Priester in Chicago. And we'll find out the method to this madness at maybe at one point sooner or later after the series is over or whatever. But I don't know.
It worked out. I'm ecstatic it worked out. My answer is loving the Pat Murphy experience. Grant, you should still answer that question. But I just, I was still trying to piece together, like, to Grand to to Bart's point.
Was it overthinking the overthink? And then by the time you overthought the overthink or was this just like This is what he was gonna do and he knew this is what he was gonna do back during the wild card round.
So, I will answer this two avenues. My first avenue is a very simple, I have enjoyed it. But we've been able to enjoy it because. It didn't ultimately matter. Like last night, I could go through the way that Murphy managed it and say, oh, I don't know if Ashby was the move there.
And then later in the game, like Miz in a tie game. Ooh, that ended up working. And then Chad Patrick comes out and looks awesome with a four-run lead. And then they yank him after onening. Like, ooh, maybe he has more length there.
But you know what's great? When all of your big dicks on offense, like Churio and Contreras, are getting big hits, like. I don't have to worry about the other stuff. Like, you know what Chicago radio is worried about today?
Well, why'd you start with Shoda instead of Colin Ray? It's like, well, your offense didn't do dick. It doesn't matter. But when your offense doesn't do anything, you're forced to put a microscope over these things. And I'm just enjoying watching an offense put together a rally, whether it's with two outs, whether it's single, single home run, hit by pitch, single home run.
I'm enjoying watching the Brewers' best players not disappear in these huge moments.
So that's what I'm enjoying. I also think secondarily. That Murphy has kind of ropa-doped counsel, and I don't know if he's ropa-doped him to the point where it's gotten them a win. I think the games would have played out the same way. But counsel in his preliminary, his pregame presser on Friday, went on a rant about how.
how the brewers take the form of their manager and that's good coaching and he's noticed that. And Steve McGargey asked him.
Well, okay, give us an example, which by the way, is such a layup of a question. Compliment your opponent. You don't overthink it, just say something nice. They're tough. They're a tough at bat.
And Craig Counsel, I'm quoting him verbatim, basically, went, They don't swing. Their manager tells them not to swing, which is the equivalent of when your girlfriend is like, What do you like about me? And you're like, Your hair. Like, it was such a shitty, it was a prick answer, first and foremost. But people always in college is like, You're not, you're not a, you got, you got nice eyes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then, what happens? The game on Saturday starts and they jump all over Boyd's ass early in counts. And then after the game, Murphy makes a comment in his post-game press, which is like, yeah, I don't know where this idea came from that we don't swing early in counts. It's like, I I don't know. I think the Cubs expected something in game one and didn't get it.
And I thought. Listening to Craig Counsel's mid-game interview, he thought Priester was coming out. That was what they had planned for. And I think Murphy knew that. And after the game, Murphy goes, Well, we never planned on pitching Priester.
And I'm like, that's bull, fine, but you knew what you were leading on. Like, don't play dumb. You knew the impression you were giving. You know, Murphy is this awesh. It's all about the guys.
I'm just trying to pretend I know what I'm doing. I think this effing guy, man. Like More than once, I think, has hit the Cubs with a little bit of a curveball. And I don't think it's mattered in the end, but I'd certainly rather be the manager that seems one step ahead. The alternative, right?
Like, I've really enjoyed that. I think he's done a good job. And I don't think he's. Anything special, tack, tack. Tactfully, tactically.
I think he's more of a coach than a manager, but he's really done well, I think, through two games.
Sorry, that was long. No, great answer. You also have a manager in Murphy that seems to enjoy the existence of being alive. I was going to say, if you didn't say a different word, I was going to say, alive. Like, again, we have a lot of emotional damage from council and watching all the brewings that we did during council.
But what Bart is. you know, miming right now for those who are watching, but like It's true. It is stressful watching Creative Council watch a game. Yeah.
You can't tell me that that's nothing. over the span of seven months with the guy as a player. It just Grant, you just like when I tried to build our crib. I tried to build the crib, the classic dad comedy trope, but I tried to build the crib and My wife's just like I can't. I can't bear to I will do this.
I can't bear to even know that you're doing this. It's so. You're so frustrated, it's unsettling me. Then I need to do it. For sure.
That's how it is watching Craig manage. It's like. Just go in the back. And watch the game on T V. And then tell Quentin Barry or some shit.
Which I didn't even know he was there. Quentin Berry followed Craig. Um I always remember Quentin Berry for striking out like in twenty what was it, seventeen? Yeah.
Yeah.
Um Because we brought him, he's basically our brand in Lockeridge that year, and then he's got the bat. What are you doing? Yeah.
Yeah, so I it's as yeah, I I can't imagine like I don't I'm just I'm not I'm not anything right now. I'm not, I can't. I think you should be a little something. I'm with you that I'm not going to say that it's done, but you give yourself a little bit. This is pretty satisfying.
Cubs fans are having a meltdown on the internet. I mean, they're. And I don't engage for the most part, but I read. You know what I mean? They're right to do that, Grant, because the brewers are cheating.
Right. They're a cheating franchise who cheats. And and the Cubs are right to call it out. The Brewers Well-known cheaters. They've cheated.
They cheated with the shadows. They cheated with. Knocking the temperature down. Retract the statement, or by the way, that was so insane. The woman sharing the report was like, the dugout was in the sun all morning, and now the sun has moved, so it's in the shade.
And I'm watching this clip, like, yeah, the funny thing about the sun is it fucking does that. And John Greenberg is posting pictures in the press box at 9:30 in the morning, and first pitch is at one. And he's like, Weird Shadows. It's like, I don't know, man, the game's not for almost five hours. Like, maybe wait.
That's like going to cover a Packer game. Getting in at 9 a.m. for a noon game, take a picture of the poll, like, light crowd today. Are you fucking stupid? Yeah, they bag your students section to The shadow.
Yeah.
And she Used to work in Milwaukee. She had a good sense of humor about it. I'm not making fun of her at all. Like, it was, it was fine. Maybe it was a thing where they're like, LOL, look at this, and then everyone's like.
No. Look at this. Yeah.
And we're all just killing time on the pregame. The yacht rock during batting practice was very funny. That someone told me about that last year. I'm like, what? This is so.
And then the fact that it became a fact that this has ever become a storyline, like Craig's distaste for soft 70s rock, is just, it's hilarious. Do you like that we independently came to the same?
So they, when they played yacht rock during the Cubs. Batting practice. I had said on my show. And then you would also said on your show. independent about like The kind of guy you have to be.
Yeah.
Two. Where it's a known fact about you. Yeah.
You can just you can just dislike Yacht Rock. Or if it comes on, you can be like. Can you turn that? I'm not really into it. But no one's going to be like, oh.
Craig hates Yacht Rocket, but You have to like Say it unprovoked in situations where Yacht Rock is not playing. Yeah.
Like you get in an elevator with him, he's like hey, hey. Fucking Christopher Cross. Yeah.
Life blows my mind. The background of how that comes to pass is the more interesting part of the story to me. And it's funny and it's good gamesmanship. Again, like. No one's getting hurt there.
It's a funny thing. I hope rival teams do that stuff to each other. That's good, clean fun. If the Brewers win the World Series, Craig Comes. Jesus, what?
Craig Council should get a ring. Not today, but someday. He might not need it today, but he'll need it someday. That's a joke.
Well, that comes to you from the same guy who also doesn't think Jackson Churio should be on this team because he should have been traded. Yeah.
Yep. Yep. Yeah, there's a there's a track record.
Okay. Uh any other brewers' thoughts?
Well, a lot, but because that are timely that won't be. Oh, let me. Oh, I was going to say this: you're enjoying the every other day off thing in this series or. I do not like working during the show, something that Grant's going to have to. What are you going to do tomorrow?
I don't know. I mean No one will be listening to you. I don't thank you. The only way people are gonna listen is if I like make it a watch party. Which I think you should.
But I don't know what that looks like. I don't know, man. You're gonna throw bobbleheads and Jump up and down and kick and scream. I'm not, I'm not that guy. I can't do that.
Just be like, the O2, no, home run. No, be that guy. Be M. Babs or whatever his name is. M bone.
I feel bad for that girl version of him though. She like actually seems to care about it at the team. That that guy is just fronting. Bart you've done the you've done the counter programming thing though. Like do you you've purposefully counter programmed.
When? Where you've even done it on your national show, where, like, okay, everyone's gonna be watching, I forget what, uh, What game would it have been? But everyone's watching this game. I have two choices. I can either acknowledge that there's this game and that everyone's listening and watching to it.
Or I can talk about something. Completely different, and you went the completely different route. This is like in the last. Three months. I don't remember when last night I rambled on about Penn State for 15 minutes.
I don't know what the fuck I was saying. I was just like reading shit. I was just like, I'm just, I'm watching the game. Because I never read anything, but I took a lot. I basically also cut and pasted like NFL stuff from an article.
And I was just like reading stats and. Like, I'm just and it helped that the first inning. happened before I went on.
So the epic swings of that, I got on, it's 3-3. And then they homered. And then it was seven-three. And it's like, okay, well, we'll watch this game, obviously. Um, but it's not like if it was back and forth with me and Carlos, That would have been too much because he's a Cubs fan.
Wednesday will be better for me. Thursday they would have to play at night again. And Carlos has the Giants Eagles at the same time, so that sucks for him. And then and then Saturday.
So I'm at least thankful. That If the Brewers Do not win this series. I will not be on the air for it.
So they were able to win last night. Which means they could not get eliminated until the weekend. And I would not be on the air for it. Yeah.
Uh Grant, what's your answer about the every other day being a mm-hmm being a good thing? Is that a content answer, a fan answer, or or or it's uh because it's better for the brewers answer? I enjoy having a little bit of downtime. These games are incredibly stressful to me. We watched the first two innings of game one in.
A conference room at a church while I was waiting for one of my two or three best friends in the world to get married. And I was shaking worse than he was. Like, they're stressful. Like, they're playoff baseball games are very stressful.
So, to have a little bit of a break, but also for content purposes. You know what I mean? Like, I really enjoyed the fact that they won that game on Saturday and I got to talk about it Monday night before the game was played 8 p.m. Monday night. You know what I mean?
Like, Yeah, I like that. I wanted to talk about that game. There were a lot of good talking points.
So, I guess a combination of all-like one off day, and it allows the teams to be a little healthier without completely changing the. like the entire geometry of the sport. Like one day off doesn't completely change the sport the way that a A week off in between games would. It might have, that day off might have, well, almost for sure was the reason that Jackson Churio played in game two. Could have been.
Yeah, yeah. That's a big deal. The only thing I want to comment real quick is. Uh I started, I'm always a little bit behind on DVR for the most part, right? Kids get to bed and then I.
Start watching whatever sports game is on. I started watching the first inning of the Brewers and the Cubs. Obviously, I wasn't that far behind, maybe 15 minutes, but the first inning happened for the Cubs. And I did a quick like Five minute I paused it. And I went and watched the beginning of Chiefs Jaguars.
Because I just needed like I needed like an emotional reset. To your point, Grando, how stressful it was. I was like, okay, this isn't going well. I'll come back. We'll regroup.
If I was in your case, I would have just been like. All right, I'm just gonna check the score to see if we've come back yet.
Well, you can always do like the uh at least on YouTube TV, you can watch key plays to catch up to live. Like, I didn't do that in this case, but I've done that for other games.
So then you can. Yeah.
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All right. I I think. I think there's enough to it that we should talk about it. With the Giannis report and Shams, who can be ignored? And we, as a trio, have done.
We have ignored, we have also engaged. Um, did you guys read the report, like the spe the specifics within it? No, I saw it this morning and I had to fill six hours and I decided I'm just if he's getting traded, let me know when. Otherwise, I'll watch on opening night. I've been too saturated and I've beaten over the head with too many reports and too many things.
Just let me know if he's getting traded.
So here's my question then. I read it. I'd read it too. I thought, if you're still doing this, I'm going to read it. Yeah, fine.
Yep. In this case, which I've ignored plenty of the Sham stuff, this one, I was like. All right. Have you learned anything?
Well, if it's If this really was An exclusive negotiating window with the Knicks in August. If that's real, and... Shams. Still, generically, generally can fuck off. Like, I still think he's doing a thing, he's trying to speak something into existence.
It's a thing. It's a thing and he's doing it. Having said that, if there really was a one-week or two-week exclusive negotiating window that the Bucks were holding with the Knicks. That is extraordinarily telling, interesting, a bummer. I can add other.
words or phrases but I definitely learned that part. And maybe Grant is hearing that right now for the first time, but that was part of the reporting. From the article, I didn't know that. Uh, you're telling me this for the first time. I saw tweets.
I'm also, this is my way of paying back shams for all the shit that he posted that was mostly fake. That I read. I'm like, you're not getting my click on this one. You could be reporting that Giannis is on the moon right now, and you're not, it's just a matter of principle now. You're not getting my click.
So, then, is it true then? And I, this is this is not even like, is it actually true the thing about? Giannis' family moving to Greece. Is this that Bart? Is he going to be at swimming in Shorewood or is he going to be in swimming in Athens?
Like, is because if that's swimming is in Glendale. You prick. Tim. Is that Bay Shore, which just shut down their arcade and movie theater and bowling alley? Did they really?
Yeah.
That used to be a A go-to player. I still got tickets on the card I have. Oh, that's got to be reimbursed. It wasn't iPick anymore, was it? It was something else.
No, it was something else. You remember what it was? Like 15. Yeah, you know who always went there? It was Jason Kidd.
Yeah.
I I Jason Kid I just Jason Kidd went to see a lot of movies there.
Okay. And they had the biggest plate of nachos you'll ever see. And my wife and I each got one. We didn't know they were that big. And then I housed about a I housed mine and half of hers.
Do you know like hiding food in a public space like that, especially when it's dark? Wow, that's such a great take. I thought that was just me. Like, I won't do it. Yeah, I'm not into it.
We took a niece and nephew once to a place in Whitefish Bay, which also closed. Did it really? I know exactly which theater you're talking about. Oh, that's been closed for a while. Really?
Yeah.
I mean, I lived in that area like fifteen years ago, so it's been But we had a pizza. They had pizza. Right. And we ate a pizza there. Grant, you wouldn't be a big fan of eating at medieval times if you've ever been.
I don't like eating. If the if let's say I'm there's two of us and we're getting dinner. If the cost of the dinner and everything that's going into it. Is less than 80 bucks, I'm taking my food and eating it at my home. Oh, that's such a great take.
The only reason I'm sitting down in a restaurant somewhere to eat around other people in a public space is if it's like, this is what we're doing, and we put on clothes for this, and we're going to, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not eating. It blows my skull to the ceiling that people sit down at a Chipotle and eat food. It's not that it's gross. It's just I.
I don't eating is a shameful act. It's the way I'm hunched over, and there's noises, and I don't want anyone watching me, and I don't want to hear you do it. And I don't want to do it. This is so comforting.
Okay, so I always thought it was weird that people like. When you're trying to get to know someone, like the thing you do is sit down and eat. Let's go eat. You shouldn't play around a mini golf. That's the key.
That's the date.
Well, you'd only want to do that with me if you're okay with some putter throws. I'm an angry guy. Oh, very. If I'm competitive, watch, yeah, watch out. I think you can learn a lot about someone at the dinner table.
So is Giannis does he live in Greece?
Well, so part of the substance. Not during the season. He's not going to be away from his entire family. then you missed some of the follow-up reporting that NBA Central Um There was a report in the tweet. There was a report out of Greece.
That again, is it true? I don't know, but it wasn't. He's been there all summer. This wasn't Centel. He's lived there all summer.
Right. This wasn't Centel. This was NBA Central. And I didn't see him at swimming. all summer And now I assume that he's back living here.
And what the article said, and then in the offseason, he'll go live back in Greece.
So, what's wrong with that?
Well, what the article said, True, false, don't know. Uh was that Mariah, his wife. was asked Milwaukee or Athens and she said, uh let's we're gonna stay in Athens. For the season. Not going to come back.
This is what it said. This is what I read. Don't know if it's true, but if it's true, That's a Huge. Unfortunate, terrible piece of news for the Bucks and for Bucks fans. Right?
I don't know. Just Here's over. Just give me a call when this eventually ends. If Giannis left to like the Knicks or the Heat or the Warriors, that'd be one thing. If he's like, I'm just going to move back to Greece and play there.
No, well, so the connection that people were making, Bart, was that there's only one. Direct flight out of the US to Athens and back, and it's out of New York.
Well, out of Newark, New Jersey. Not that just What the fuck does that mean? It means it's a quicker commute is what it means. Nothing from Greece to the United States is a quick commute. If you're on an eight-hour flight, you're on a 10-hour flight.
See, they got four kids. Yeah.
They're not taking eight-hour flights. twice a month. Yeah.
I'm not sharing news. I am passing along what was said. By the way, eight-year-olds. You're not sharing news, but you're digesting it pretty thick.
Well yeah, the uh eight messages. 18 minutes ago. Brian Windhorst, are you ready? Yeah.
Sure.
Quote There has been an expectation for quite some time that Giannis' days in Milwaukee, one way or another, are numbered. Whether that was going to happen this year, whether it's going to happen potentially during this season, or whether it could happen next summer. End quote. Sure.
Okay, well, I mean, we had him for 13 years and he won a championship. What's the big deal?
So here, this is, I'll read you the other piece that was from earlier. According to, and it's a Report out of Greece. I think you'd love this, Giannis shit. You'd love it. First off, this sucks because they shouldn't.
If they're going to trade him, like I want it to happen tomorrow. I would have wanted it to happen. Not with when does this stupid season start in October for some goddamn reason? Why hockey starts in an hour? If we have these things bookmarked somewhere where we could easily go back and find it.
I've been like I have been on team. The best thing for the future of the Bucs is to trade Giannis now. And I said that like a year ago and two years ago, like once the championship window was. By and large, closed. The more you kick the can down the road, hoping that some miracle is gonna happen.
The less chance you have of recovering because you're gonna keep trading picks, you're gonna keep doing this. And the more that you keep doing whatever you can to kick the can down the road. The worse it's going to be. And by the way, if they actually were exclusively negotiating with the Knicks. who have nothing of substance that you would want back.
Right? Someone whose commentary I think you can really trust on this and follow on this is. Frank Madden. I'm sure everyone listening is familiar with or knows. And even he's like, yeah, like.
The one thing you wouldn't want to do is have a Luka Doncic situation where you were exclusively negotiating with a team who didn't really have much to give you. And, like, if the Bucs are going to like honor, like, honor Giannis' thing, like, well, I really want to be traded, but it's only to the Knicks, and they're going to honor this, dude. Like, get fucked. But again, I'm not trying to say, well, what Shams reported is true. But Shams did report that there was this exclusive negotiating window in August between the Knicks and the Bucks.
And then I'm just like, now I'm terrified because if you're going to trade him for Mikal Bridges and a first-round pick and some pick swaps. I'm, you know, like, what have you done? What have you done? You've destroyed.
Now you're now you're crippled for at least a decade. Is this around the time that I got all these phone calls and messages from people that Giannis was being traded to the Knicks and it was going to be announced tomorrow? That actually would line up. Yeah, that was August, I think. That means the information was good.
The timing may not have come to fruition, or the result may have not come to fruition. I am so unbelievably unmoved by all of this. And maybe that's a personal problem of mine. Maybe there's a lack of investment or something here. I just, Paul, to your point, well, you need the picks, you need the picks.
Why?
So we can draft Scotty Barnes and Kevin Knox and suck balls. Like, I don't. Or players like that, not those exact players, but like those types of guys. It was the middle of July. I just checked.
Okay, so it was to a either that was true or yeah, but. Um Well, Grant, I would say what you would want to have happen is you'd want to do what the Oklahoma City Thunder did. And not that they could have ever envisioned. Being the champion. Five years later.
Paul, I don't think you're speaking to a choir here. I think.
Well, right. In this group, I never have been because you guys have always been hanging on to Giannis as long as you can. We're also disinterested in this premise as it exists. Let me just ask you one question, then we'll move on. This is the one I want you to answer.
This is where it all started. If the Bucs don't make a significant playoff run this year. You believe This is Giannis' last season in Milwaukee.
Well, it seems like that's the truth, huh? It seems like this is going to be it, yeah. Yeah.
I think that's obvious. Seems like it seems like Free me from this. Unbelievably heavy and annoying. Does that make Shams right? Is he right?
Has he been right this whole time? Or did he did he will it into existence? If every day I'm running up and down the street saying, We don't have much time. The sun will engulf us all. And then it happens 9 billion years from now, am I right?
I guess so. I guess I'm not sure. 22 games and 24 games in back-to-back years. Before rebounding w to win forty games the year after. Mm-hmm.
I might be old-fashioned.
So, look, I probably come at this from a different school of thought. I enjoy winning games more than I enjoy losing games. But that's still short sighted by you. Yeah.
Okay, okay. I want to win more games now. Better is that that's better to me. Fair enough. I would like to tell everybody that.
Oh boy. I'd like to tell everybody that Things are going good and I hope you're all doing well. Oh, that was all right.
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But I might shave my beard for a Halloween costume. When was the last time you Shaved cleanly. Uh my last week in T V. Wow. I once had like a Fu Manchu.
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Can you do your bullshit on your own time? NBA, I just, it's baseball season, it's football season. I again ask: why is hockey and why are basketball starting right now? I love sports, go team. The more sports, the better.
Yeah.
I'm going to retweet that. Yeah.
As he should. All right. Quick Brewer's question before I ask you: Packers one. Pete. They should tweet Bucks versus Paul Immig's content creation.
Yeah.
Whatever. We all the good news is we all want what's best. For the bucks, we just have different thoughts on how to get there. I want what's best for me at any moment in time. That's what I want.
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Sorry. Pete Crow Armstrong almost caught that home run. Or mm-mm. I mean I am enjoying the memes and the content on that. I think I'm one of the Rare Brewers fans that thinks he's kind of cool.
I do like, I mean, didn't he show too much emotion, though, throwing his bat and his glove down the. Dug out hallway last night on that video.
Well, I don't know why, it wasn't even a big game, so I'm told. It is strange. I want to ask you back this question, but I saved a couple of things to share with you, so I'm just going to randomly throw them in right now. A great Kevin O'Connell quote, who was unquestioned a top three NFL head coach grant, and definitely not on the same level as Matt LaFleur. He had a quote that Bart.
Is A Bart Winkler quote. Quote, I believe organizations fail young quarterbacks before young quarterbacks fail organizations. Sure.
So they're failing this brilliant mastermind of a coach admitting he's failing JJ McCarthy so far.
Sounds like a special, special mind. I would say he's not failing him. By not playing him. He's saving him from not by not playing him. This is like a turkey neck.
We're just having a totally different conversation.
Next, Paul? Uh the Packers are healthy. or getting healthy, or much healthier. Perhaps as healthy as they've been since All season, especially with Christian Watson back. Packers are going to come back from this bye and go on a roll.
Mm-hmm. Or well, they have to face most likely the only quarterback that's beat them so far this season, and Joe Flacco. It's a good talking point. I don't understand. Why, anybody thinks.
Joe like Joe Flacco The Browns Made a trade with the Bengals for the first time since they've come back. Mm-hmm. The Browns won this trade here, folks. Joe Flacco is bad. Have you watched Joe Flacco this year?
Yes. Even with the Colts, he was not good. He came off the couch. Played well for the Browns. I had that last bit of energy.
Sucked in the playoffs. And then went to the Colts was bad. He was bad. Yep. And then he's bad like These games that he's he's He's just missing guys entirely.
He can't move. Against the Packers, he looked like he didn't want to be out there. Yeah.
And um Wow, so now the Packers are going to face a 40-year-old quarterback three times in a season. How about that? Toys being Joe. True. If the Packers had this guy.
And then traded him to the Bears. It'd be like, what do they know? But they know what we all know. He's bad.
Someone gave up assets. In 2025, For Joe Flacco, the Bengals are only doing this from a PR standpoint. Like the same reason Russell Wilson got benched, they weren't ready to go to Dart. But they knew they just could not start Russ again. They just couldn't.
They can't start Jake Browning one more game. They can't. Right. So, what can we do? Who can we call?
Well, the Giants will give us them, but they want this. We don't care that much. What about the Browns? They're weird.
So the Browns, who once had. Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett before the draft now have Dylan Gabriel and Shadur Sanders. Yeah.
Vegas Flacco down the road in Cincinnati I guess he'll start, but. I'm not worried about it. Like Pulls a hammy playing Sundays. Shadur Sanders, the next quarterback. to play for Cleveland?
100%. And if he's not, what the fuck? Why did they draft him? Like, if they're going to get rid of their first guy, put in their second guy, and still won't make Shooter the backup. Why did you take him?
Shador is clearly the backup now, right? Did I miss something? No, he's a backup, but I I don't know who else they don't even have anybody. No, there's like is Za Zappy's on the practice squad or something like that? I mean, they have Deshaun Watson.
But do they? But do they? I don't know, Shadur and him are always talking on the sidelines. Are they talking or is Shadur miming? Yeah, that was a bad look.
What an absolute loser. I couldn't tell if you're What you're Tone is on that, Grant, because it's same in the text message. I couldn't tell if you were like. When you responded to our text about Shadur, you're like, what a. I forget what you said, but I I couldn't tell if it was sarcastic or not.
You're such a loser. Like, who thinks that's a good idea?
Okay, so you're being sincere.
Okay, good. Yeah, no, I'm being very If my kid was Shuder Sanders, he did that, I'd smack him on the back of the head. What are you doing? Mm-hmm. Okay.
Uh Bart. Are you doing the barometer that I recommended? Oh, I forgot I had to do that tonight. God damn it. Um no, I'm doing These are disappointing teams.
Yeah, that's that's the way I recommend it. But with college. Yeah, I don't like that addition because I can't help with that. Or care about it. Penn State's loss was pretty epically bad.
That was the UCLA game that I saw. Yeah, and I saw this picture of what is it? Jerry Neuheisel? Is that his name? Jerry?
Don't know. is like He looks like he's out of a different time. And I saw this picture of him being carted off. The field. And it looked like it was from The 80s.
I was like, what is going on here? He played quarterback for them. He's Rick Neuheisel's kid. Um I'll show you his picture. There's there's old Jare.
Oh. Wow. He looks like, what's his name?
Something Holland? The soccer player? Yeah.
Another member of the band Nelson from the 80s. With the two brothers with the blonde hair. What's the soccer player's name? Yeah, Holland. Holland Davis.
What's his f what's his f okay, that is his name. I watched West Ham, by the way. They hung in there. Earlier. West Ham should have been beaten by a lot more.
I mean, how many Goal scoring opportunities can arsenal. Away, West Sam might get relegated. I'm fucked. That's my team. They suck, they're they suck!
They like fired their manager already. Mm. Oof. Hey, Grant, the question that I posed that Bart will be partially answering, I want your answer. The team that will most likely be the consensus worst team in the league by the end of this season in the NFL is Oh, by the end of the season?
By the end of the season. That was how I framed it. You can do yours however you want, but. I think it's still the Titans. Yeah.
I think so. Yeah, they shouldn't have won that game on Sunday. I mean, no, they should not. I like Kyler Murray, too, which is sad. Like, I like being the guy who's actually like, hey, everyone, I think he's pretty sweet.
Like, that's a fun little thing. Don't we have a chip in the football? I thought that ball had crossed the line. Of course, it fingers. Of course, it did.
But we got to zoom in and say, well, did the finger start to just fuck off? It's like the baseball thing where it's like, well, he beat the play to the bag, but his pinky rose. an eighth of an inch for like a split second and therefore he's out like no I love it. That was a tough teaching. It is a tough thing.
Like, running through the finish line is a tough thing to teach. It was always tough for me to learn. At the final segment, I've heard the final segment of your four-hour radio show. It is something that is difficult. Yeah.
Well done.
So what you actually think you you think the Titans are worse than the Jets? Uh yeah. Yeah.
I I mean, I think Brian Callahan's gonna get fired before Aaron Glenn does. Part of that's. I don't think the Titans can fire Brian Callahan at least until the end of the year. They just drafted a quarterback. You can't do that to the guy.
That's exactly right. The Dolphins can fire Mike McDaniel whenever the fuck they want. Like, that's not, that's, there's no problem. There's no issue there. The Titans are like, we need to.
Can't do that to Cam Ward. He just got there. Yeah.
I think that will actually save Callahan's job, is that you don't want to. It's Matt Nagy all over again. He should do what Matt Nagy failed to do: ingratiate himself. Like a Ramora, like a leech. Cling on to that kid.
All right. Um you good? Good. Good. Do you want us to continue talking?
I would actually prefer you didn't. Oaked. All right, sir. We got, because Grant and I. Grant and I have been texting During.
It's like, Paul's going to leave, and we're really going to dig into this Giannis situation. I'm saving my real take struck, Paul Jets. I do enjoy those topics more than you, even though Grant, like Three weeks ago, four weeks ago, you accused me of uh What was the take? It was like, well, you thought I was being a robot. Oh, it was about the rumors.
Oh, the Micah Parsons rumors. Where I said, no, I'm being sincere. Like, I'm getting excited. Are we supposed to get excited about this? And you thought, Yeah, you asked, Are we really doing this?
That's how I read it. You're like, Are we really doing this? I'd like protection. Trade rumor conversation is fun.
So now you're poofing. And that's where be where your food is, man. Grow where you're planted, man. Dance with the girl who brought you, man. Yeah.
Bye, friends. Thanks for stopping into the Winkler bird. Yeah.
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