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It is the All-Star Break Week. 2025 and grant bill's gonna join me in a little bit in full back next week just want to talk some brewers trade stuff with him and you know i don't like that there hasn't been a baseball game in a few days it kind of sucks the brewers are going to be in action again this weekend although the games will be late. They are in Los Angeles and then they will be in Seattle.
So some late Brewer games on a road trip before they come back home and celebrate 25 years of American Miller Field. A lot of people coming back for that one. Home run derby happening. Really want to go. Tickets are more than the seat I sat in.
There was a Sunday game against the Rockies. and I talked about this. I was going to take my kid, set up high, just, like, show him you can't – I can't splurge for you every time, dude. But then as I was looking for tickets, there were $60 seats two rows from the dugout. Those seats are hundreds of dollars right now for this game, which has everything you could ever want besides, like, a quality opponent with all due to the Marlins.
friday three o'clock start can we make that a thing oh god can we make that a thing start the weekend right um and then hang out at the bars right after oh i keep i keep forgetting but then uh everybody's coming back all these guys that have been in this era of milwaukee brewers baseball this being since the park was built and the home run derby after which home run derby that is the fever sweep in the nation with this swing off that we saw in the all-star game a lot of talking points out of that one um got into them a little bit on the infinity sports network this week i liked it i liked it i'm a big all-star guy i was like crying happy tears because I was just so happy to see these guys in their old uniforms again. I thought it was like 35 years since they've done this. The last time that baseball in the All-Star game had everybody in their own jerseys, it was 2019. It wasn't that long ago. I think I'm conflating that a little with the NBA that seemingly hasn't done it in a long, long time.
I just think it looks much better. I think it adds to the whole vibe of the night. it's very it's just just a simple aesthetic thing that I think does go a long way and I got really happy about the all-star game I love all-star games I love all-star games I just think they're the greatest thing you know you grow up as a little kid you love baseball and then everyone's there at the same time all these guys that you have different sleeves of cards for are all together at the same time interacting with guys from teams in their division working together for a common goal for national league or american league pride when that mattered because the leagues were separate as it should be yeah i i still would like to go back i still would like to go back it is maybe my least populist take, but I did like the all-star game or I like baseball better when it was American league and national league.
Now what's the difference between any of them? Since the DH is gone, they all play each other. I guess you don't play home at home with the Yankees. You know, you alternate years where you'd play a home and home with the Dodgers as we're seeing. I know I just like I liked it better I liked it better the or just change let's make it American conference a national conference these are not leagues anymore they're conferences and if you're so like the same I was gonna say monolithic you know what I mean why do we still have an American league and a national league mvp could you imagine if we had an nba uh nba east and nba west mvp or uh or uh nfl afc mvp nfc mvp i'd be so stupid i'm gonna bitch about that again tonight nobody like i don't know there's some things that i think and there's like nobody nobody I think I've struck gold.
And people are like, oh, yeah, I guess. Oh, okay. I see. Yeah, sure. Home run derby at the end of the All-Star game was cool.
The initial conversation was, why wasn't Aaron Judge and Shohei Ohtani in it?
Well, the answer is because they fucking left. Pardon my. Yeah, they've been leaving for a long time. I think, was that part of the story with the 2001 All-Star game that they leave? They leave.
That's why even if they wanted to bring guys back in, they were already gone. What, are you going to force them to stay? They have two at-bats. They want to get out of there. And even if you're like, oh, no, Aaron Judge, you have to do it.
He's going to sit around and, what, warm up for two and a half hours just in case? You don't want a guy to come in cold. He could mess up his swing. Then you have no Aaron Judge or Shoya Otani. second half of the season you force them to play they're just going to say i'm not bothering to come i think people were pretty mad about that initially or head scratching and then kind of moved on with their day um realizing that the logistics of that are kind of insane the all-star break is only four days i know it seems longer we're going from we as brewer fans are going from a Sunday afternoon game to a Friday 9 p.m.
game. That's like the Packers play in a shorter amount of times, multiple times a season. That's, that's, that's, come on. That's, that's a long break. But for these baseball players, they look forward to it.
I referenced multiple times when the Brewers got swept, a five-game sweep in Pittsburgh right before the All-Star break because they were looking ahead to it. These guys look ahead to it. and they look ahead to it, they want this break. They just want four days to chill. Then if you make the All-Star game, which is a great appearance, like let's say you have a four-day weekend, okay?
You have a four-day weekend, and the second day of that weekend, so you get Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Or no, let's do a Labor Day. Labor Day weekend, Friday off for whatever reason.
So it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. It's Labor Day weekend. You've been working your ass off all summer. You're looking so forward to it. But you were like one of the best at your job.
So you have a party that you have to go to on the second day of that break. That's Saturday. It's a work party. I mean, it's fun, but it's a work party. It's kind of like a work function.
You'll get paid for being there.
So that's nice. But still, this was your break. This was the one thing you were looking forward to the entire summer. and also because of that the first night everybody's got to get together too and we got to watch some things so now friday's shot saturday you have a work party but you're only needed for the first hour so you're only needed for the first hour and after that you can deuce out do you stay the entire thing and have your sunday salvaged or your Saturday ruined? Or do you, do you leave and say, I still can get a Saturday night out of this weekend?
That's kind of how I look at it. Like with me working Friday nights, I am on the air until one o'clock.
So I don't like that. I don't have a Friday night. Um, so then what I do is I come home and try to cram a full Friday night into the hour that I'm home before I go to bed. You know, you fire up the SmackDown, maybe meet Timmy Shea at a bar. You know, singles become doubles, become triples, and you're packing a whole Friday night because I don't like that I lose my Friday night.
So I get it. I get it. They don't have a long time. And then a lot of these guys have to be back on the Thursday of that week to do some drills and have the media come or what have you.
So I get it. They want to extend their weekend. That's fine. Should the swing off be something that's implemented in Major League Baseball after nine innings? I don't think so.
Maybe you play like three innings of extra innings, and then you could go to a swing off. But you can't just go. You can't. We can't be doing penalty kicks. we can't be doing penalty kicks after nine innings.
We can't be doing that. You got to still play some of the actual game. And I know there's already a runner on second and it's not the same as it used to be. But then again, man, all these, all these things that I bitch about with baseball for changing, I complain that they're abandoning the shift. Oh no, you got to beat the shift.
Well, they got rid of it. And I barely remember that. I complain about getting rid of the pitcher batting and then, no, you know, this is fine. I complain about the pitch clock. I think there should be no time in baseball.
Then, you know, you know, this is fine. I complain about all these things and then I, I end up like just thinking it's fine if not better.
So what I, cause I don't want there to be a swing off in regular season games, but will I just see it a couple of times and say, oh no, it's not. That's, that's fine. I don't want there to be robot umps in baseball, but that ABS thing was kind of sweet. And it was quick and it was easy. The ball strike review.
So maybe I'm not bent out of shape about it.
Now I'm like, I'm bored. I want to see it in games starting Friday.
So I'm very much a pushover when it comes to standing up against baseball. And then just bowing down to whatever they do. No, I do like that, I guess. I do. I do like that.
All-star game was fun. Nope, Freddy Peralta, of course. Nice way for the Brewers to get another guy. He pitched on Sunday, so did not pitch in this all-star game. And Trevor McGill came in.
They allowed, the National League did, allowed four runs in the seventh inning.
So McGill had to come up, clean up the mess. He was the third pitcher of the inning. he got Stephen Kwan the potential tying run to bounce out and end the inning so McGill came in did his job and then we thought he'd be in the seventh he ended up being in the eighth and Jacob Mizorowski threw 11 pitches for at least 99 miles an hour he threw the nine fastest pitches of the entire night maxing out at 102.3 mph and he had a slider at 98.1 miles per hour um Randy Orozarena I thought did take him deep and Alejandro Kirk took him a sizable length as well around a single then another fly out from Zach McKinstry so Mizorowski that's why he was in the game he was in the game to get guys outs in the throw hard that what he did I don know that you need to grill him afterwards if he deserved to be there or not um the all games in Philadelphia next year so if he makes it they're gonna boo him because he took Ranger Suarez's spot Philadelphia you know this this this city of brotherly love man they really they really all of a sudden give a shit about Christopher Sanchez. Phillies fans may not know who he was a month ago. He got robbed.
Sanchez got robbed. All right.
Well, Jacob Mizorowski, a star is being made. You cannot, you cannot say baseball does a poor job building young stars and then complain that Jacob Mizorowski's in the game. You cannot say baseball does a poor job of building young stars and then get mad that they did on-field interviews with Pete Crow Armstrong, Jacob Wilson, and the like. Pete Crow Armstrong, man, that sucks. That guy's cool.
That's cool. I really liked his message when they were interviewing him on Fox. He's like, I try too hard to be other people. I just got to be me. That's a good message for people, baseball or not.
Just be yourself. You have a unique gift to offer the world wow that's great kids 23 i didn't realize that message in life until 23 minutes ago so good for good for him but baseball's got to build young stars and i think the all-star game did help in that fashion now i've been seeing frames rant and rave about this if Mizorowski wasn't a Milwaukee guy and he was like a big city guy would people have celebrated it more probably I don't know what is the deal but people do not like us MKE versus everybody Bobby Portis is right we are brought to you by happy place have promo code is BART 25% off each and every order I will probably need one of those well not probably we're gonna have to go we're going to have to go the sleepy gummies, the CBD, CBN, the purple ones, because I've had a tough week of getting up early. Wife's been out of town. I have to take the kid to camp. Then we had like a guy come out to look at our dryer so I didn't get a nap in.
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Ladies and gentlemen, joining the program now from the Wisco Sports Show is Grant Bills. What is this? Great to have you. Good to see you.
well i'm coming back from a uh built-in blue wire break okay yeah that i have to manually insert i'm sorry to hear that you don't have a producer to do that for you well tim will edit my post but he stays away from the commercials because he let's executive producer work you need an associate producer it sounds like um i am gonna take the plunge first of all nice to see you i'm gonna take the plunge and i'm gonna get something that i have seen other houses have i've always thought it was so offensive and rude and also ugly i've never seen a good stylish one but i'm getting a sign on my door that says no solicitors are those do those have legal grounds like if you're a solicitor and you come up to a door that says no solicitor like are you forced to go away i think what they'll they'll see it and be like oh okay this guy's not going to come to the door sure if we ask him so i assume all bite that this is stemming from an incident which you're now going to tell me about set up and intro body and here we go well i've been thinking about this for a while what happened so first of all election day election day broke me yeah for whatever reason my street is like if you're in the solicitor game and i know it's a tough job and i don't envy it if you're in the solicitor cold door game i think my street is like level one well this is what you get when you want walkable personable neighborhoods this is a side effect of that but i'm sorry continue it's like practice on this street i had um i had the last person that was here was trying to get me solar something solar and uh and then they like got pissed at me that i wasn't accepting on the spot i brought it up on the air that night and someone called in and they said bart don't ever ever say yes to a solicitor not all of them but some of them are casing you for information on your house just in gentle conversation trying to be like how many kids are here when are their work schedules like when are they oh oh for robberies yeah i never thought about that so i was very cautious what i was telling this guy today election day broke me because we live close to a polling place and um well first of all i don't think the cat's out of the bag here but i had a sign up in my yard you had a political sign i did okay i did and it was in my yard on election day and so don't you think that if that person has a sign one would think and lives very close to the polling place like we can check this one off man so i i think i think i can i think the total was five on election day but what really fucking lit my fireworks was someone came down my block at like 10 30 hit my door and then went down the street and right as like they went off the block a new person came out of the block and i got a 10 34 after a 10 30 and i was i was just i i had enough so i gotta get one of those black signs with orange font no solicitors like a real loser why do you have a political sign what are the point of those i like we have the right to a secret ballot box why do we not exercise that um i wanted a couple of reasons okay one was I was trying to gauge reaction from my neighbors to know if they were on my team or not. And I got a nice sign. Like, hey, like your sign.
So in a good way. Did you like that person previously? Yeah, but now I'm like comfortable, you know, having them watch my children. Child.
Okay, sure. hey i'm not it's not i i just put up a fear of the deer sign that was good that was up there for five fucking days okay i got at metro market claws up closet situation well that can lead us right into the brewers grant well done okay um i wanted to somebody said something like brewers haven't made a significant deadline deal since 2008 so i was trying to find a list of the deals they made at the deadline and i type in google this is why fucking ai is gonna i can't find a goddamn list you'd think ai would be excellent at this stuff but it's not So then I did use AI. I use Grok.
Okay. And Grok gave me, I'm reading through and I'm like, oh, I remember this trade. I remember this trade. And then they go, July 30th, 2021, Brewers acquired Aaron Ashby and Zach Brown from Cleveland for Colton Wong and cash. Why do I not remember that?
Because it didn't happen. Oh, I was going to say what?
so i said so then i said to grok hey that wong trade never happened how did you fuck that up and he said or grok he she i apologize for this trade it did not occur thank you for pointing it out while aggregating trade data from sources like mlb.com baseball reference and brew crew ball i inadvertently conflated separate events or rumors with an actual trade specifically colton Wong was a focal point in trade discussions around 2021 and 2022. This led to an erroneous assumption that a trade involving Wong and Ashby occurred in July, 2021. And then I was, then I, then I started asking questions about Epstein.
Well, here's the thing. There's this new trend, you know, I asked Grock or I asked chat GPT and I would say, well, I asked Chuck Freeman and he told me one 35 East sunset drive in Waukesha. That's where you get your ribs on a Robert special to me. It's ribs on a stick. Don't you hate after every tweet right now?
It says at grok. Is this true? Yeah. Oh God. Ask perplexity.
Is this real? We're just, we're just burning gallons of water for every letter that we type into that thing.
So, so I'm told on the internet that might not be true, but that's what they tell me.
So it did. I think, I think the rest of it was pretty straightforward. Of course, there was the CeCe Sabathia trade that Paul was upset about because we traded away Zach Jackson. That seems to fit. Did they do anything in 2011?
It was loadable? Yeah. Well, in 2010, oh, Grotko's in 2010. 2010, they go, Brewers acquired Jake Odorizzi, Alcides Escobar, Jeremy Jeffress, and Lorenzo Cain for Zach Greinke. and then gracko's note some sources list this trade is finalized in december 2010 but preliminary agreements were reported in july the fuck they were yeah that's not how that works okay so they acquired granky i trying to think in that in that 2011 year if 2011 was k it wasn Aramis Ramirez Did they have Jerry Hairston Jr in one of those years There were some of these guys.
Like Jerry Hairston Jr., I think, might have been a – I think he was an August guy. One of those? They don't do those anymore. No, you're right. Hairston traded July 30th for Eric Kamatsu.
and then when did we get was that 2008 ray durham i don't remember that far back yeah ray durham was 2008 and that was for uh steve hammond and darren ford so yeah all right so then 2011 um 2012 it says we got some reliever from the yankees i've never heard of so that might be false oh so you're just looking at grok yeah because i wanted it in a list and there's no article there's articles that are like the six worst trades brewers made a deadline but i just want like a list yeah which ai should be very good at like if there's one thing online that like go through all the databases and give me a list and it it can't do it which is frustrating 2018 what go ahead what were you gonna say 2014 um brewers acquired gerardo para remember that i do 2015 david goforth don't remember and then uh the gomez fires hater deal peralta you got hater back and then 18 they added let's see jonathan scope mike Moustakis, Xavier Cedeno, and Joaquin Soria. It was more of a shotgun approach. Matt Elberts, I think, too. And then late season signed Curtis Granderson, I think, in that late window, right, in August that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, 2017, Anthony Swarczak.
2019, Jordan Lyles, Drew Pomeranz, Ray Black. 2021, Daniel Norris, John Curtis. Those guys sucked. ass. Eduardo Escobar.
2022 was the hater trade. Have we litigated that enough? Why is it the hater trade and not the Tyler Rogers and whoever that why do we call it about what I'm very excited for? Hey, if they trade for us, Dury Ruiz, we don't have Contreras. Yeah, we don't have a catcher with a broken finger.
God, how that would change things. I I'm excited for two summers from now because I'm definitely doing like a full week of remembrance of the hater trade the five-year anniversary like if I'm still doing this job I'm gonna do a week on it in the middle of the summer Mark Hanna Carlos Santana in 23 Savali yeah I've been referencing the Mark Hanna trade a lot because that's the measurement of what I don't want and it's and it's unfair because it's nothing against mark canna i don't want another version of what we already have on the team god grok sucks july 30th 2024 brewers acquired andrew vaughn for peter strislecki and anthony hoopie tognetta not quite not quite i don't want to mark canna i i don't want another like if if that's what i'm getting then i would rather just not i would rather just roll with what we have you know what I mean, like if you can't get someone who's a sizable, meaningful upgrade over Durbin Ortiz or Collins, probably most notably that I'm not interested. Like don't futzer and don't waste my time with a Mark Canna or a Carlos Santana. It does nothing for me. And I don't think it does anything for the team either.
Um, yeah, I don't like, but the, the, the impact.
So what are we going to get then? Cause the red socks fucked around and won 10 games in a row, which sucks. Yeah. So it takes their guys out the diamond backs, but like, Oh, we want a Eugenio Suarez. Oh, so does every other fucking contender.
Yeah. The, the, well, and the Cubs are an interesting player in all of this, the future of Kyle Tucker. There's, there's levels to this. I talked about this when I was filling in for bill earlier today. If the Cubs feel good about retaining Tucker, I think it means they'll be less aggressive at this deadline.
But if you talk to most Cubs fans or like Rosenthal was writing today, like, hey, watch the Rays and Tucker with new ownership. He's from down there this offseason. And the Yankees, I think, are a natural fit. If the Cubs internally are like, this is probably the only year we're going to have Kyle Tucker, then the reports of them wanting to be winners at the deadline and wanting to really blow everyone away are probably true, which from a pitching standpoint, won't affect the Brewers because they won't be in on pitching. But for third baseman like Suarez, they'll absolutely, like the Cubs are a competitor for that.
So you mentioned everybody wanting Suarez and it would make sense for the brewers.
Well, most notably, probably the Cubs. Cause Matt Shaw is like not going to cut the mustard and be what they need. If they want to try to win a world series. Yeah. I mean, who else?
You're the one typing everything into Grock. You know what I just typed into Grock? Do I want to know? I said, I said, who is a bigger Brewers fan between these radio Titans, Bart Winkler or Grant Bills? Oh boy.
Do you want to know what it says? Do I? I haven't read it yet. No, go ahead. Determining who is a bigger Brewers fan between Bart Winkler and Grant Bills is tricky since fandom is subjective.
But we can piece together some insights based on their personas and content. uh bart winkler blah blah blah well what well it's just like he's he's been covering sports media for 15 years his podcast dives into brewers topics for example he's been vocal about the brewers ups and downs like their rough start in 2025 he's known for his ongoing feud with cubs fans and his lingering resentment towards craig council it's true um his roots in Milwaukee in long history covering the Brewers. Sure. Plus his claim of 2010 vision for Wisconsin sports. That is funny.
Paint him as a diehard who lives and breathes the team's highs and lows. Grant Bills in lacrosse is equally entrenched in Wisconsin sports. I don't know about that. His show often focuses on the Brewers' latest games. Player performances like William Contreras' big nights and roster moves like Aaron Savali's trade request.
Bill's commentary can be analytical, but also carries a fan's perspective as seen when he expressed skepticism about the Brewers wins or frustration with their struggles, like blowing leads or defensive weakness. Oh, fuck you for this. His ownership stake in the Green Bay Packers. Yes. Adds a layer of fan credibility, though it's football related.
His daily engagement with Brewers content and his reactions, like celebrating the hijinks in a loss to St. Louis, or ranting about a series loss in San Francisco, show he's deeply in. Oh, my fuck, Grock. Comparing the two, both display strong Brewers fandom. Their styles differ.
Winkler's emotional, hyperbolic takes, like predicting a sub-500 season after the first weekend, suggests a visceral heart on his sleeve connection. Bill's, while passionate, seems to lean more analytical, though his rants, for example, about the Brewers' batting order show he's just as emotionally tied. Winkler's Milwaukee roots and longer media career give him a slight edge in terms of cultural connection to the fan base, but Bill's daily grind in lacrosse and his nuanced takes make him a close contender. interesting without a definite metric for fandom it's a toss-up if we're measuring by emotional intensity and milwaukee-centric identity winkler might edge out slightly i agree if it's about consistent detailed engagement with the team's performance bills holds his own i actually think that's that's probably accurate fuck grok for saying all of this why i you know what i don't get about you you use ai more than anyone i know and you bitch about ai more than anyone i know i don't use it that much i just use it when i need to come up with a nascar preview ah i see where are they racing this weekend both i don't know yet and i won't till friday both are titans of wisconsin sports radio and their love for the brewers and neck and neck call it a tie i love being a terrestrial radio titan in the year 2025 i can't tell you how much that means to me hearing that pick one if human fate depended on it grok says my roots in milwaukee get it you were on the field in 2018 in st louis and in chicago yeah i'll let you know about it anytime i hope my mouth opens yeah that is true i think your your consistency and your presence in shorewood i think do give you the edge i wish i still lived in lacrosse it's there last weekend it was nice it's very nice smoky over there what the heck's going on on the western side of the state it's just wildfire central over there uh on the uh eastern side of the state i got the air and water show flying test flights over my head every 15 minutes yeah i i i see the what's funny is i see the people on twitter who are all about community the events and engagement and things going on, things that would bring folk, you know, people to Milwaukee. And yet they are upset that there are planes flying over their head.
They do not you others. I'm kind of like that as well. Do you want any other questions from grok before I close it? No, I think I'm okay. We've used a couple gallons of water.
I think we're good. Questions for you. I've been doing listener appreciation week during all-star week. because there is not much to talk about and this is a great way to kill two hours a night and appreciate your listeners yeah and get to know them yeah i have gotten to know some i have strengthened some of the callers on air personas this week that's important we got a guy burton baltimore who's been like auditioning for carlos is gonna let him judge guess what they said okay and he's been auditioning all week and it's a fun little bit um what was the biggest sports accomplishment in your life well i played sports that most people don't consider to be uh all that mine was when i beat my buddies in shuffleboard at my friend travis's 40th anniversary or 40th birthday party i still think my biggest athletic still like it's going to change if it hasn't already I still think it would either be, I was very proud of a race that I ran in track my junior year. I ran a four 34 mile and I got second barely, uh, to some guy from Hudson who was at the conference championship meet.
I think that's, I, I am, I am still proud of that. That's that's hoofing. That's very fast, but not exactly catching a touchdown on homecoming. I did an 11, 10, two mile under the lights at the County track meet. That's cooking too.
under the lights is it's a cool experience to run track like that it is uh and also senior year we bowled every two nights two nights of the week and i was like a 130 bowler but then um i brought a girl that i liked and everyone thought i would suck and i threw a 218 did she talk to you did this change anything about the relationship or the interest in either one of you or it's just a small side note to the story not important either way i'm minimizing i I just want to know if it led to something. No, I don't think I hit the strike zone on that one. What's the best and worst stadium you've ever been to? Ooh. I went Lambeau or Wrigley.
You like Wrigley. You're a Wrigley guy. And worst was where the Chargers used to play. Pacor? Or the old old chart like San Diego Oh Qualcomm So the soccer one or the one in San Diego San Diego Okay I mean the Metrodome kind of sucked ass Went to some Brewers Twins game there growing up.
Look, I like all the Wisconsin stadiums a lot. One that I have been to that's very cool. I'd like to go back. I don't even know what it's called. It used to be Safeco in Seattle.
I would go back to that. That would be cool.
So just to give an outside-the-box answer. lambo it's the i mean that's not an interesting answer what about sports was better when you were growing up i said i don't like that we i don't like that we have to watch like terry mclaurin publicly negotiate with the commanders yeah we're gonna know every detail of his contract it's it's weird honestly the first thing that came to mind like just figures or people that i miss it's weird because I love Greg guard, but Bo Ryan was the absolute balls. Like just having one of those coaches. Um, I miss Bo Ryan and I love Greg guard, but I, I miss Bo Ryan. That's one thing I miss about sports when I was growing up.
Um, I still, I was still so pissed the day that he stepped down. Cause that was the day I interviewed Janice Jeff. Oh, really? and that was going to be the focal point of chuck and wicket i mean did that many people listening to chuck and wicket really care about bo ryan stepping down well mike wicket and chuck freeman cared about bo ryan stepping down sure okay okay okay that makes sense what's why i just remember your ben wargle interviews were probably the biggest can't miss segment that you ever did on the morning show so i why i assume there was a big because you didn't care about it i could tell that's why i did let chuck i pretty much ended out that one and let chuck dance uh one thing you'd change in sports history i said i wish i wish russia russia would have beat the u.s why i don't know oh jesus i thought you had a take like okay let's hear this i don't know i mean you could say a hundred different things but as far as a game it's 2014 yeah i mean probably that's some of these answers i don't just want to say the same thing that everyone else is going to say um i'm trying to think of a more like outside the box one man it would have been cool to see the brewers win at home in game seven in 2018 but that red sox team was so good i don't i don't know that it would have ended in a championship i want to say like if major league baseball instituted a salary cap at one point or something sure what about like another way to look at it it's like oh mine's gonna be that the nasl the soccer league with pele didn't flop okay um maybe like go back and prevent an injury to Sharp or to Bakhtiari, you know, hardly earth shaking, but like, if I'm trying to think of things like my team maybe could have ended up with a championship, if not for ABC, I mean, Nick Collins, Drew Michael Finley, a couple of those guys. First sports movie you think a kid should see.
Cause we watched Sandlot, which movie sucks. It spends way too much time on that dog. i wanted to see more hijinks like oh you got the girl to kiss him at the lifeguard sure show me more of your summer show me more of the amusement park don't don't just show me 30 minutes of trying to get the ball back from the normal size dog from the normal size dog um favorite sports movies but i do think that a kid the kid if you're gonna watch a sports movie it should be a sports movie about a group of kids okay well that's the thing like i don't like any of those movies angel like maybe angels in the outfield i watched that when i was really young i remember that we watched rookie of the year this last weekend and that wasn't as good as i thought it was yeah because it's a kids movie and you saw it when you were a kid you know i'll you know what i'm gonna take a different spin on this answer space jam i've also never seen it don't care uh young adults should watch i really like coach carter and money ball then we fail yeah i like i mean hoosiers hoosiers are miracle i would say miracles awesome i you know so those are probably for younger kids coach carter maybe another step up that's one of my favorites should i ask grok sure i mean what at what point are you going to show your son major league well my big problem with that is the indians don't exist anymore your problem with that movie is the complicated mascot it's not the other no not not anything about the mascot it's that the team changed okay because he knows who the guardians is and if it was a cleveland guardians movie and if they were still the indians i'd be more prone to show him but you just don't want to confuse him yeah okay because i mean knows every team inside and out that's fair okay and sometimes on youtube now he'll watch there's videos that show year by year who's won the title and then a chart of like who's in the lead oh yeah the the real real-time bar graphs i really like those he loves them good for you look at me but then he also watched extreme hide and seek with this fucking kid that like quit youtube because it got too stressful for him or some shit out um out on the the watts tag league too out out out what about mr 3000 never seen it uh i i i haven't seen a lot of movies so i'm probably not the perfect person for this question grok says sandlot bull durham sandlot's the correct answer because it's kids playing together in a neighborhood yeah fuck which you don't see that anymore kids playing outside in groups yeah no shit they why won't kids why won't kids go outside and run around unsupervised other than the fact that parents won't let them do that yeah just something you don't see a whole lot anymore i went to the doctor the other day i had a larry david moment with my doctor because i jacked up my foot and i was scared that i was going to need a hard cast i have a vacation in the middle of august where i'm hoping to go fishing and i'm hoping that i'll be able to do things um and i he's basically like yeah we don't do hard casts anymore and i'm like you know how about that i haven't seen a kid with a cast in a while he's like i know right i'm like oh i just that was a that was a very Seinfeld or that curb code yeah you don't see kids in casts anymore how about that all right I'll end on this my my one friend he's like I really fucked up today or no he goes I fucked up last time we went to the dentist he said we took his kid to the dentist and he's like oh last time I went to the dentist I really fucked up I go what happened well it was around Halloween time and I said, you must hate Halloween, huh? And she's like, why? And he's like, because of all the candy.
And then she goes, I don't know, you just clean the teeth. And he's like, fuck. Then I'm not going to talk about why I scheduled this appointment for tooth hurdy good to see you grant this was your clincher what my ender yeah no i ended with some boy i'm ending with some voicemails oh the clincher to this segment though yeah yeah just watch the teeth sorry for trying to make small talk with a dental hygienist like i'd be like okay well i'll go sit out in the waiting room yeah no no no sorry i'll just go die now yeah i'm sorry i'll go kill myself jesus just call me when the kid is done and they pick their little their little prize out of the chest yeah smells like laughing gas back here anyways nice to pre-bill me for the braces too yeah just go ahead and we'll start that payment plan nice to see you i missed paul but this was a treat we will talk next week if you're a lineman in charge of keeping the lights on grainger understands that you go to great lengths and sometimes heights to ensure the power is always flowing, which is why you can count on Grainger for professional grade products and next day delivery.
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And so I had to place like six calls the other day to show it proof of life. Here's brick in West Dallas. It is brick in West Dallas. Then while don't even know if you do voice knows anymore for the into the Winkler verse, but I was just listening to the most recent one with Tim Shay. Um, I agree with Tim.
I feel kind of the same way with all my Wisconsin sports Packers, box Brewers. I'm here for the ride. I'm loving it. I'll go back and forth with people and buddies and friends about it and talk about it, watch it, but I refuse to get my hopes up and really, truly believe just because I've had my heart broken too many times.
So that's just all. I just wanted to say I agree with Tim there. And then to answer your question about why they don't do all-fan giveaways, part of it is scarcity, right, and that kind of thing, but actually the bigger part is I worked with the Brewers right around the time Tim was there, but I worked in the marketing department with the film team. And they do it to get people to come into the events early. A common issue that they always seem to have is there's a backlog of people trying to get in right around the start and then people don't get into later in the inning, which means they don't do much concessions and there's more traffic.
So they do a lower number to get people to come in early because they want the thing. there's a large chunk of people that don't care about the thing and they'll come in whenever they want to come in. But the actual baseball fans will come in early to get the thing.
So that's all I wanted to say. Hope you're doing well. Keep it up. Love the podcast. Love your national show.
Yeah. And have the day you deserve and fuck Craig Council, baby.
Well, maybe that makes sense. But then what they should do is advertise 25,000, but then have 40,000. Nobody, if you have a giveaway, no, and it's not like a special ticket promotion package, like get a Pokemon Go Brewers shirt, which is also the day of that 25th game. Then you should quietly like give everyone one.
So make them think there's a demand, but everybody should be coming away with one. Maybe they do that and I'm the sucker. Dunno, but that's what they should do. Have a great weekend. These summer weekends are fleeting.
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