Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome into the Winklerverse.
I'm Bart Winkler alongside Grant Bills, alongside Paul Immig. What a weekend it's been. We got to see the draft in Green Bay.
They had 600,000 people across all three days. Not the 750 that Detroit had, so therefore Green Bay is a shit city and Wisconsin is a shit state and the Packers are a shit organization because we couldn't beat Detroit at this one very specific contest that nobody else is having. Packers draft, I think was good. I don't really know how to discuss anybody that got drafted on day three for I, like I told you guys, who do you want at number 23?
I can tell you one through 10. Well, I couldn't have been that engaged in the Packers draft as I was on Shidoor Sanders' watch the entire time and I'm eager to talk about that all this week on the Infinity Sports Network, where Kenny Pickett right now is the odds on favorite to start week one, even though I believe he'll be cut by the end of May. Make the bet. Make the bet. How are you guys doing?
Good. I, uh, found out on Monday morning that there was a pretty major injury at Sunday night's game. I, I, I avoided it and thus our text group chat and others until this morning when I was able to get up early and watch. Oh, so this is what happens when Paul doesn't watch all these games live because he likes to watch them.
He likes to actually, he tries to treat sports like a TV show. Yeah, exactly. But when the entire fan base is having a collective and it's not even a meltdown if we're talking bucks, it's just like, it's sad. It's just sad. It's sad.
We're never going to get to see Damon Yanas. Uh, Dame's probably going to recover for like, he's going to get paid to recover for awhile. Yeah. Um, I just, it's just none of it worked out.
Grandma was given, grandma was given 18 months to live and she just died five and a half months into the diagnosis. That's what happened last night basically. Is that a bet? That's not a bet.
That's a good analogy. Um, I would maybe shift the timing a little bit. Oh, okay. So the grandma dying is okay.
It's the timeframe. Well, yeah. And I also, I'd also work in like every time that you went to see grandma at hospice, that was one of her bad days.
Okay. Your cousins would be like, Oh, grandma was so in spirits. And we talked about Christmas, 1989, but you didn't get that one. I mean, you understand that part of the analogy.
I do. And grandma's 97. Like I it's really hard to complain. Like she could live to 100. We're like, damn, it would have been cool.
She's won a couple of championships, including one four years ago. I thought that was kind of, I thought that was kind of worked into the, the part where I mentioned her age, but like, that's what it, and that's the only reason I say this is because you said bucks fans weren't having a meltdown. I don't think it's a meltdown as much as, as like, Oh, we're all very sad. We figured that this was over, but the Dame Achilles just made it worse and made it happen.
Well, now, and now, you know, what's going to be tough is the funeral arrangements and the splitting up when, when you go through the house and like put a sticky note on what furniture you want. Well, let's, let's just go into it. I wanted to start with the draft, but let's just do it. Well, but then, okay. But then also like now, and I saw no tech Ben tweeted this, my frenemy or one guy I had one problem with one time, cause he was right about Adrian Griffin and I was wrong.
Um, that's friend to me is he's like, what sucks is that now there may be like legitimate bucks franchise, Yana's questions, but the national media has been doing that for eight years, ruining like when it's actually supposed to happen. So now this thing that we should be looking at, it's, it's fatiguing already. And, and there's no, it's not like, Oh, this is over. Let's look forward to the new thing. This is over. And now the next thing is going to be equally annoying. Well, here's how I want to ask it to you guys.
And this is, this is my head space. Keep in mind, I've not known this news as long as the rest of the bucks. You didn't get to sleep on it.
Didn't get to sleep on it yet. So this is fresh. Um, rip the bandaid off.
It's over. Yana should be traded for a hall this off season or, um, well, so I don't think like people keep suggesting you got to get Cooper flag. I don't think if you've got the number one pick, you're trading that for Yana's.
Well it depends who you are. Like I have a trade for you. So I want to talk about it more hypothetically and theoretically about a general statement and then I'm going to ask you some trades, but I would respond to that by saying if the Spurs get the number one pick and could team up Yana's with Wimby, you have to do that. Yeah, you have to.
If you're San Antonio, I'd root for the Spurs. That'd be fun. Absolutely.
I'd love to root for that stat team with Fox and castle and Wimby and Yana's. That'd be great, but that's not the trade package I have, but so you guys were using the grandma analogy, which is pretty dark, but I'll, I'll run with it for a moment, which is like she was 97. She's got to go some good life and grandpa already died eight years ago. See, and that's why my answer is a friend behind this was Middleton, by the way, this is a fresher wound for me than for you, but I don't want the long death window. I don't want to like play out the next two, three years of like, you know, I remember when it was a really good time. Like that was fun. You don't want this to turn into what we had with Rogers.
Correct. I don't want that. And I am not ever going to be like the sentimental one among the three of us with like holding onto players. Grant doesn't mind having like the Willie Adama state to the end and then lose them for nothing except a compensatory pick that I am completely the opposite of that. I am fine with this generational superstar who has been everything but loyal to Milwaukee, who deserves to ride it out here as long as he can.
He does. However, I'm of the opinion, rip the bandaid off. They are the bucks cannot recover from a $60 million hole on their roster next year who doesn't come back until if he has a miraculous recovery February and even then he's got to work his way back. He's probably up for the whole year. You can't have that $60 million hole in the roster when the roster is built the way it is, especially it's over and I'm okay with accepting the fact that it's over and doing something drastic. So rip the bandaid off. It's over.
I'm, I'm comfortable emotionally and ready to move on even with the freshness of the Dame injury for me. How about two things on that? Yes. One, I think that's where Bucks fans will get to because I think they would rather say we're leaving Yanis rather than Yanis is leaving. Sure. We would rather say, okay, best of the franchise. We all love each other, but best of the franchise, we need to move on rather than Yanis to be like, I don't want to be here anymore, which would prove these people right for the last eight years, even though it wouldn't prove them right at all.
They would take the victory lap. Sure. If you think Yanis should be traded in 2018 and then it's 2025 when he's like, I want to be traded after they've won a title.
You're not, you're not right on anything. So I think that there might be some of that you need to do as a sports franchise, what you should do. And I don't know that everybody thinks this way, but what you should do is identify the path to get our next one.
Yes. What is the, what is the path to get the next one? So when the Bucks got their one in 2021, their path to get the next one was let's basically just do it again with all of these people. And you can't really argue the logic behind that. Now then there were injuries and then they got all crazy because they started thinking, well, what's our path to win the next one? Well, we need to fire this coach. Well, we need to then fire this next coach.
Well, then we need to trade for Damian Lillard. And then as this is going on, you know, it's harder to construct a roster. I saw some article that we're not in the studs and duds era anymore. We're in the you're only as good as your weakest link.
You need these guys at the bottom. If they're going to play rotationally, you need them to not be sieves on defense. You need them to be able to score. It's why the Lakers are like, screw it. We're going to play everybody for 24 minutes in the second half because we don't trust anybody else that we have. So the Bucks need to identify, is it more likely that we win a championship with Giannis?
And if we do, can we build other pieces around him or do we trade him and try to build that way? I think that both ways are going to end in disaster. Well, the one that the Giannis way works, but we're not, we're talking 15 win warriors team and then come back up. So there'll be some hard times. So do you want to not go through the hard times or do you want to like pivot, try to win and watch Giannis win somewhere else? I don't know that I want to see that with all due respect.
So here's the big difference. Not only do I not want to see that, but the warriors in that case, unlike the bucks had their own first round picks, right? If the bucks go 15 and 67, they don't benefit from that. Like they also blew their picks.
They didn't use them or they traded them as part of the package for Kuzma, you know, for example. So, so I am never going to hang on. I'm always going to get off the train from my sports teams quicker than most. I accept that. But the, you said there's two pads. One is like, let's just say what you're saying is true. Like they're both going to fail.
They're both going to end in disaster. The Giannis one, I think he can be the best player in the world. He can be one of the best three players in the world. It is almost impossible for the greatest basketball mind in history to take given cap restrictions and the way that the salary cap is structured nowadays and take what's currently here and turn it into something that wins in the next five years with Giannis, it's almost impossible. You would have to get lucky four or five times in big, big ways.
And then in the meantime, because his value is going down as he gets into his mid thirties and at some point he leaves you for potentially nothing or he retires a buck having dragged out his last seven years at thirty-six and forty-six with a bunch of scrubs. And I don't want to see Giannis turn into Frankie Valli up there at the age of ninety years old on that stage. Great reference. Great reference. I hope everyone's seen that. He's touring by the way. Yes, he is physically showing up on stage. Correct.
That is robotics. Did you post this? I said rip the Band-Aid off. It's over trade Giannis this offseason or unless he asks, then let it rip.
Sure. But I'm with you. I don't want him. Don't you want to break up with him before he breaks up with you?
No, no, she's really hot. I'll take as many I'll take as many days with that as I can. You know what I mean?
Like, even if it's going to have I don't need to come out of this looking. We're the Milwaukee Bucks. No one's going to be like, oh, they're the Lakers now. Like, we're the Milwaukee Bucks. We know our place.
So I don't know if Giannis comes to them and says, you know what? This is kind of played out. I'm still very good. I'd like to go. Great.
More than happy. But if he's like, I like it here, I want I want to continue to. All right.
I got murals of him and like he's our city. I'm not going to kick him out before he wants to be kicked out. Agree.
Unfortunately. Well, you know, unfortunately, you can't do this without his absolute 1000% blessing. You just can't. Well, I don't want him to go somewhere either that I don't want him to go to. And I don't really know that I know what that place is going to be until like I don't want to see him clearly in L.A. or New York or Golden State or this would be kind of sick.
What do you mean? I would I don't want to I don't want to see him in Chicago. See, but none of that makes sense.
So isn't him and John our council projects commute up here. There's only there's there's only like three or four teams that would have the package of things with the salary match to make it realistic. One of which I do want to specifically ask you about, which is the Houston Rockets.
I want to give you a package and have you react to it. I heard from a friend who listened that Armin Thompson is untouchable in a potential trade. I'm sorry. I think I think you're saying that facetiously about your friend like like he heard it, but like that you're saying it like Armin Thompson should not be untouchable.
That's what Priscilla and Simmons said. But let me just say, I think you're mocking a little bit. I am.
I'm fucking great. Sure. They're going to lose. They're going to lose to the Warriors. Right. He's in rockets.
I mean, that's why it makes so much sense. The Rockets have tons of interesting pieces that are absolutely in combination worth a honest trade. And if they lose to the to the Warriors, which I think they will, they have to do something big. And I would rather take advantage of that than let the Suns do it with Durant. No, in a Rockets type trade.
I mean, I want I mean, I want those Rockets pieces. Are you saying that Bucks fans should be cheering against the Rockets and perhaps the Thunder as well? Yeah, I mean, the Thunder would be another one to swing like if they were to lose to Boston in five or something like maybe. But I think losing in the finals, the Thunder versus losing in the first round with Houston is a you can convince yourself in the finals and they traded Luca. Well, I mean, basketball malpractice decisions aside, although if Luca and the Lakers get bounced in the first round, Aaron's going to be like, baby, they don't know what he was doing. Yeah, I'll just tell you my rockets trade and then you can say and I acknowledge that like unless you're if you're listening to this, you know, whether it's the two of you guys or whomever is listening, but. The Rockets have some really interesting players, and though I'm going to say some names, you might be like like you might not be thrown away, blown away, like trust me. I'm in Thompson, Terry Eason, Jalen Green and Reed Shepherd for Giannis.
The math works. Now, some pick swaps, some pics, all the things that go with it. I'm in Thompson is awesome. Terry Eason is very good. Jalen Green is an interesting piece, but also he's the salary. Team Paul, who do they have left?
They have plenty. I mean, like, so we can go through the Rockets roster after that. Dylan Brooks, your boy. But there's grants give me a face that says he he gave Leo DiCaprio means what's what's the player in that group? I'm like that's the guy who's not as good as Giannis, but can we can build the thing around? I don't know.
Well, so well, first off, I'm in Thompson's awesome. But the idea of what Bart was saying earlier, we're like, you're only as good as your worst player that's able to play the Bucks depth is old and bad. And on one year contracts who you can't even resign. So you have you have to turn one piece into three or four good pieces like you just kind of have to the roster is constructed in a way right now. That's it's I don't think you can dig out of the hole.
I just don't think you can. Even before the damn trade. I was thinking if they lose to the Pacers, how do you turn Lillard this offseason into like two serviceable heat players, for example, just just something just something to try to even things out. I never gave up on Davion Mitchell at the record show. I said Bill Simmons like I'm still on the bill. I love Davion Mitchell.
I really do. So So Grant, it seemed like your reaction again, I'm not saying like, you've studied Rockets tape recently, but you're to Amun Thompson, Tara Easton, Jalen Green and Reed Shepherd for Giannis this offseason with with picks with all the picks. I mean, sure. If he honest wants to leave, then sure. I'm kind of down to do whatever Giannis wants. And I know that might be unpopular, but I don't think either outcome is great. So let's just do the outcome that they retain John horse.
Did they retain John horse to get his way out of this measure? Did they retain him to try to make it work with Giannis? I think they would tend to try to make it work with work with Giannis.
And then the scenario changed when Lillard got hurt. You know what? I gotta put my stamp down one way or the other.
Team keep be honest and figure it out. You want the slow death? No, I don't want to trade and be like, Oh, this new young buck squad come out and cheer him down at the forum.
No, no, no. I want I want Giannis. I want to see this motherfucker twice a month and swimming and then be like, you know, that's all I want. I want it to be like, I see them enough that if they saw me at pick and say they'd be like, Oh, there's that fucking guy.
I want to keep that going. What do you think someone who doesn't see Giannis is swimming should do? What about somebody that has a young child who is getting super into the NBA and loves Giannis?
What about somebody who wants to take him to affordable games? That ship has sailed. Hey, when I'm in Tom's and your best player, you can get in the door for less money, right? Right, right. Nothing will ever be more affordable than it is right now. So we can just do the economics of this can move on. I don't know. Anything else you want to say about this?
I just to reiterate, I'm not trying to be a jerk. Like, if Giannis wants to go, then all right, great. Then the silver lining is he's worth a lot. And it's probably the best time to trade him. And if he wants to stay and hang around, it's like, well, that's your franchise.
Like that's not the worst. Again, I agree, you have to let him for better and for worse, you have to, he has to be totally on board with whatever happens. You certainly don't.
Luca Don should style kick him out the door when he's not expecting it. You don't you can't. However, if you can Jedi mind trick the situation into being like, I think you're gonna have a better chance to add to your legacy in San Antonio, and you're gonna get him to break up with you. Is that what you're saying?
That's absolutely what I'm saying. Convince him that it's the right thing for everybody involved. How would you do that? You know, Giannis, I just wanted to run something by you enough XP in NBA 2k.
You can do the Jedi mind trick GM move. Just sit him down and be like, you know, Koosby I think needs a pay bump. You know, if we pay him now, it's going to be cheaper than if we pay him later. And Giannis is like, all right, whatever you say, Mr.
Horse, God damn it. All right. I really want this bastard to leave and he won't ask out before before Packers.
I gotta spend 30 seconds on something quick and then you hurry go. I've tried to dance around the subject because you know, you love who you love, and that's fine. Something's wrong with this Belichick thing, right?
Like something is not something. I mean, I think at this point, I think we have figured it out exactly how they met. Right? Yeah, it was financially driven. I, I absolutely think that's true. So let's, I think we have to, we should talk about it more. You have so much content after the weekend that just happened for the Infinity Sports Network. You got to lead with Bill.
I think you can lead with should do or but I think you can. The awful announcing post. It was like, this is getting under covered. I saw them like, yeah, it is. It's weird.
And someone needs to figure out what this all is. All right. All right.
Just get that. He just met on a plane when he saw her textbook. Yeah, I think that I think that ship sailed. That story is now this arguably the greatest football coach ever in his 70s. And this is how he's going to who hated being covered by the media.
And this is how he's doing interviews. All right, I got to do a couple like, large topic, NFL two things. Grant, you said this, I wrote it down, and I'm gonna ask you about it. I think you were being 100% serious, but let's find out. You said it's I think we're talking about gently in the text chat when you said this, it's fun to win the offseason. Why don't we do this more often? Maybe it was about golden, actually.
I did. Why don't we do this more often? Okay, that's what you said. It's fun to win the offseason. Why don't we do this more often. So in this world where like the Bears have a lot of fun offseasons, like obviously, like let's just say you're not winning the suit. Let's say you're not going to the Super Bowl. You're not going to Super Bowl.
That is the starting point. Would you rather win the offseason more fun, more fun, let me ask it more fun to win the offseason, or to have a couple extra wins in a non Super Bowl appearance here. It's more fun to rather I think the Bears 10 wins than win the offseason for the 13th consecutive year. Say it again. I think the Bears fans would rather have like a 10 win season and get knocked out in the playoffs.
Then sure when the offseason yet again, but the opposite is true for Packers fans who don't typically win the offseason and do win 10 games or more part of part of drafting the number one receiver or the receiver in the first round. It would have been neat. But the way that Mark Murphy was there all the circumstances that came together his last thing being golden. I mean, it was just like a kind of like, it feels like it was written.
Yeah. So that sort of added to the winning of the ad and they won a moment. I don't know they won the offseason. Yeah, but they want they had a good moment. They won that moment winning the offseason was probably a little bit of hyperbole to make my point but that was pretty good. Like when we talked last week about the type of draft pick we wanted that was 10 out of 10 what we were all looking for.
Not necessarily knowing that Matthew golden be the best player who was available at 23. But if not, if nothing else, it's like, otherwise Murphy goes up and says, for the first time since 2023, the Packers are going edge. What a star. I still can't believe the timing. He got three separate crowd pops each bigger than the last first time since 2024. We're taking a draft and develop prospect 2021 we're going corner.
He turns around and gets mad. I'm not convinced that Matthew golden wasn't the best player at that spot. I'm not saying he was or wasn't but like, the report is he's the fastest player in the draft. He can run all the routes.
He ran in a pro style offense and he's got great hands. So why? Why did he last that long? Because he's 511. And because other teams wanted a dressers did not trust love last year like we've talked about or did the floor think his wide receiver group was secretly ass. It's a good question. They took two wide receivers in the first three rounds.
They did and signed and drafted o lineman after having the best pass protecting o line or close to it in the league last year, but to be fair, not the best run blocking o line lacking some more owners asked he got a better perfect that thing really, but it but if you I mean, I think the floor is building with good against, of course, like trying to build that mauling run first style. John Eric Sullivan did say on Saturday that big don't get small, which everyone's like, Oh, that's great. I'm like, no one has ever thought that big gets small. Like, that doesn't even make sense. What is that? Sorry. Here's the other question I gotta ask you before I gotta go. I want you to I think this is a Barto meter for like, eight worst QB rooms. But I'm just gonna ask you about four. I like that. Thank you. I'm gonna give you four of them. And I want you to tell me the worst.
I'll give you a suggestion. Steelers, which is Mason Rudolph, Skylar Thompson and Will Howard. Giants, which is Russell Wilson, Jamis Winston, Jackson, Dart and Tommy DeVito. Browns, which is should do or Deshaun Watson question mark Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel, or missing or the Saints, which is injured Derek Carr, Spencer Rattler, and Tyler, Tyler shock. So the worst QB room in the league right now is the Saints.
Mm hmm. Or I was gonna say that it's gotta be Pittsburgh doing Mason Rudolph's pretty bad. But the Steelers have shown that they can win with a garbage can back there. So it's got to be between the Saints and the Steelers, right? I think it's the saints.
I think it's got to be the saints. They start and they have to start Tyler shock around. I mean, again, I know Bart, you have your Rogers theory, so I think you need to throw out throw out like as of today. Worst Ross worst QB rooms in the league. Do you think should do is the biggest draft surprise if I do a Bartle meter on that?
That's a you say you don't like doing work for the Bartle meter like that one. The eight biggest like draft week stories. It's a hard list. It's a surprise, but there's a clear like reason.
People just don't want to deal with them. But then to see him be rebuked over and over and over again, multiple times by the same team. I mean, he went two rounds after the same team drafted Dylan Gabriel. Yeah, I don't think the Browns they had they had the actual football decision makers did not make that pick.
Even even if you're like, okay, we could get you doing the fifth. You still say, Yeah, but we already took Dylan Gabriel. We made that decision.
You made the decision. I remember seeing the quote a week ago and I know you said Kenny pick it was the the odds on favorite to be the starting quarterback in week one, even though to your point, he might just be cut before week one much less the starter. But he said like there was a quote a week ago where he was like, I didn't come here to like, share snaps like I'm the starter, you know, but maybe he is but who do you move on?
You got to get somebody out of that room right away. Do you just cut Joe pick it? No, you don't cut Joe. You go Joe, Gabriel and Sanders. And Flacco Flacco you're like just like just take them.
These guys will get the reps. You're all Yeah, I mean, honestly, you definitely I mean, flak. It just seems so obviously in the way for sure. But then he's the odds on favorite to start week one.
Who's making those odds? Well, he's the safest thing. Like he's a former first round pick who's like, you know, he's gonna be serviceably this big. His hands are this big.
Yeah. Look at that's not huge, man. Put your hand over your face. I was listening to him golfing his head.
They suggested my forehead and chin. They suggested that the Browns drafted Dylan Gabriel when they did because they knew that at some point, Haslam was gonna be like, we got to take Sanders who need a quarterback. So they preemptively took Gabriel because he's not going to ask him to. We already got our guy but then made him anyways. I think that's a good theory.
I think it totally checks out. And he said, That'd be a good one. So those are those I think are the four though I'm gonna say I really like the Giants QB room. Like there's not a guy but I'm saying I like the way they've structured it in the sense that like you have absolutely less than zero reason to play Jackson Dart anytime soon.
Which is what every team who's drafting a quarterback set maybe the first overall pick should do the panics thing a year ago Bart you and I were on the same page with cousins and yeah. And now it's gonna get traded. All right, Paul and me, ladies and gentlemen. Bye guys. Bye Paul. Paul for this week. We're brought to you by happy place and promo code is Bart 25% off each and every order.
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So once we get in like the second round, it's like, take what you need when you're there. I mean, unless it's AJ Dylan and Josiah Deguara, like there is a limit, but when you when you see it, you will know it. And it's AJ Dylan and Josiah Deguara, not Anthony Belton, Savion Williams, wide receiver, TCU.
This seems like a guy who I don't just want to take the obvious Deebo Samuel light comparison, but could be what they're saying. I'm not Baron Sorrell. He was there. Why was he there?
Why aren't more players there? That was my thought. It's like, if you know you're getting drafted, who cares if it's not on the first night, go to the thing and come out and you know, I don't know.
I kind of thought it was cool. Well, yeah. And then it's nice to the one guy that I wonder if they're like, well, this guy's there.
Should we just take them? Like they're down to two guys and like, oh, is he already there from here? Yeah.
Anyone here? Colin Oliver, edge, Oklahoma state. I saw that that was lower on the boards. Warren Brinson defensive tackle, Georgia Eagles take all the good guys from Georgia.
So I'm sure this guy will suck. Michael Robinson corner to lane. And then John Williams. I was going to text you when we signed John Williams, John Williams, like the composer, John Williams, and they were making jokes on TV.
Oh, are they? I think I missed that pick. I think when she got drafted, I kind of tapped out. I watched a lot of the, uh, day three festivities.
I did too. I enjoy the day three festivities quite a bit. The picks from like Germany and Spain that are on a terrible time delay.
And then they got to wait for all the networks to take him. Do you have any FOMO that you did not, and you've been to big events. You've been to a couple of super bowls.
Do any FOMO that you didn't go to the draft? Um, I mean, yeah, cause I enjoy hobnobbing, but, uh, I had FOMO that I didn't go and I was there. You know, what's great is, you know, what just is the balls and you know, this doing a radio show from a radio studio, like it's the best that this place is designed only for me and others like me to do what we do.
So there's always a little like when I'm out on the go and it's fun to do shows places, but it's a little anxiety that comes with that. It would've been cool to go to the tailgates to bop around to the yards. I would have liked to do that. And I would have liked to see Pete. Um, other than that, I think I'm, I'm fine.
I think I'm good. I had a real nice bro and out with Pete pizza fun hang IRL. Yeah. We walk around, but the Kowski I'm telling you dude, it was, it was like, well, first of all, he's a giant human. He's very tall and he was wearing a suit coat.
I was just wearing a jacket. So Pete was obviously like, Hey, was that guy somebody, you know, he didn't just, he was, and people are like, Hey, I recognize you, whatever. And it's happening. And then one time they're trying to take a picture of him and I go, let me take the picture. And I'm taking the picture. I'm like, do these guys ever accidentally even listen to my show? Who knows?
I don't care. It's like one time I was at a thing with Leroy and Gary and somebody needed a picture with Leroy. And they're like, can you take the picture to Ellerson? And he's like, yes, absolutely. You know?
Um, so I'm telling Pete, I'm like, somebody's gotta, somebody's gotta. And then this guy, Travis Shaw, not, we always call him the other Travis Shaw. I know who that is.
Yeah. He's like, Hey, I'm Travis, Travis Shaw. And I'm like, yeah, they're Travis Shaw. And so I got to see him. Then another guy came and then he, he's like, Hey, Bart. And I go, Hey, do you know Pete? And the guy's like, Oh, you know, he's like, okay, I saw you, but I really got to see somebody. So then we take a picture with him.
He ends up being one of my buddy's neighbors, but they didn't ever know that. But anyway, Pete definitely, uh, beat me, but he's locked on Packers. I'm just, I'm just a loser.
National radio host. What about us? We're dying. We're a dime a dozen. Did anyone like say, screw you Pete?
Or was it overwhelmingly positive? No, everyone. When you're online, you don't like Pete. Interesting. But if you see him in person, you're like, Holy, it's Pete. It's Peter Bukowski. He's very agreeable. He's a good time. Yeah.
I really enjoy it. I'm like, can we, we're just walking around and like, where should we go? He goes, I don't know. I go, I want to go somewhere where I want to test the limits of this badge.
He goes, okay. Anyway, do you want to go in the Lambo? Yeah. God, that does sound very fun. The scenery looked great and the draft looks cool. It looked like a very cool place to be. Um, I don't need to be in a crowd of a hundred thousand people.
That kind of makes me anxious a little bit, but I think I might've done it. Had I been up there. It looked very cool. I was jealous that you got to be there. Well, I think too, if you're somebody that's from out of town and you're like, I want to experience Lambo. I think this is the check.
Even if you don't go to a game. Cause you got to go in Lambo if you wanted. Yup. I don't know that everybody knew that though.
I don't know. I just kind of happened. Um, cause I think some people watch round one in the bowl on TV. Um, and you know, there was shit going on and people having parties and the bars Holmgren Avenue was like, it was an NFC championship game day only at the NFC championship was in nice weather.
So it was a lot of fun. Um, the other thing, two more things with grant one it's Neil diamond week for you. It is on the wisco sports show with grant bills. I'm excited to begin Neil diamond week and share and immediately comment on Damian Lillard's torn Achilles at the same time. I think that's going to be hilarious.
Can you tie it in? I don't know that I want to, I think I'm just going to do the bill Simmons. Like Ryan Rossillo is here.
The bucks lose. Like I'm just going to be like, it's Neil diamond week, fifth annual Damian Lillard tours Achilles as crunchy granola suite plays or something stupid. Like redo lyrics or something. Maybe with you, if you want to redo some lyrics, like instead of Desiree, you could do to Damian Damian. I could probably cut you lyrics in 20 minutes for that.
Yeah. It probably wouldn't take long for you later this week. We can do that. Yeah, I'll do it.
Can I think Damian? Can I, uh, can I take me in? Can I read you a text that my mom, me and my siblings earlier today. So for context, my sister is moving.
She's starting a new job and my brother is on the verge of graduating UW Madison. Okay. This is what my mother sent to me and my brother and sister, our group chat this morning. Um, Oh, hold on. Now I lost it. Shoot. Hold on.
It's called kids. That one was just to me and my sister here. I'm going to actually lay down this track for you and send it to you.
Please do it. Here's the text. Happy Neil diamond week grant last day in food service, grace, and last week of undergrad college Christian proud of you all. And I replied, my thing is significantly less meaningful and important than theirs, but I'm happy to be included. And you were first. Well, that's probably what both of my siblings said too.
It's like, they probably hate me. Is it the same time every year? NDW it's it used to be like the first week in April, but I kind of forgot. And I was out of town. I was, we were on a trip the first week of April. So it would have felt wrong with the draft going on.
This was like a good week. There'll still be plenty of space for what's taking place, but it won't. We'll feel like I'm stepping on it. Um, do you think the Lakers are going to come back or there's no chance? It doesn't seem like it. No, which is a bummer.
I wish these two teams did not play each other in the first round. Yeah. I don't, uh, want to see them get balanced because like I said before, then people are going to be like, Nico was right somehow. Yeah.
That's going to be weird. I just saw Zach little clip talking about how helpless, um, Luca Don, which is on defense. I'm like, look, Luke is unbelievable. And you look at the final lines and the stats are like, holy balls. And I certainly wouldn't trade him, but how do you like, how do you build around that?
Or how do you maximize that? You know what I mean? Like way too often in these crunch time possessions, there's two minutes left. It's a two point game. Like they just run down the court. Luca takes a couple of dribbles and then takes a shot. And it's like, wow. Like he's Luca, you know, it's a good shot as any.
It's like, yeah, but it's not real basketball. So I don't, I don't know. Wouldn't mean that I would trade. I'd never trade him. Are you kidding me? Especially when he's 26 or whatever. That doesn't mean that Nico is right. It's I am wondering how you get that magnificent player to play high level team basketball that can win a championship.
You know what I mean? Do you think the bucks were, do you think we got game five monied from the Pacers? No, I think Gary Trent scored 40. That's what I think happened, which I think Gary Trent's good. And he's one guy who's like, I expect that dude to show up in the playoffs. Like, I don't think he would shrink like Grayson Allen or Torian prints or fill in the blank, all these guys over the years.
So the fact that he didn't start until game three, um, whatever I doc rivers isn't the reason they're going to lose this series, but it's one thing that we can complain about. So next year for the bucks, Giannis has got his contract. Obviously Dame has got another year and then a player option.
Kuzma has got two more years and he is extension eligible. Um, Brooke Lopez has gone Jericho Sims, Torian Prince, Gary Trent. They're all gone. Who cares? Bobby Portis 13, Kevin Porter to pack out into nine.
Those are all player options. Konstantin's going to pick that up. Konstantin's picking it up. I mean, they, he was a desperate play last night to use a recilla wisdom. Yeah. I think he's going to pick that one up.
What is it like? Porters can make at least 15 somewhere now. What's he making now?
Two. Well, he's not going to do shit in the playoffs though. That's the thing. So like how much money can I do a thing in the playoffs?
Oh, that was her. Yeah, sorry. I'm not going to do a damn thing in the playoffs. What about Portis at 13? I wouldn't want to go anywhere if I'm Bobby, I don't think. Plus you're going to get a shitload of playing time because there's no one else on the roster. Someone's got to put shots up.
So you play one more year and then he's 29. I don't know. Not the conversation that we thought we'd have. Although this is what we do the last week of April. Now this is very timely for the bucks. That's the thing.
Like our, you know, bucks Twitter last night, like I think he said, was going through it. It was just a lot of pity. It's like, Oh, we're cursed.
And like, it's just another bad stroke of luck. I'm like, okay, 2022, all ascribed to bad luck. Cause I think the way that Giannis was playing, I think they could have repeated the COVID year. They could have won that year too.
They there's, they could have been a three Pete. No, that's that's a bridge too far for me because if, if you lose in the first round as a one seed or that year, they lost as a, as a one seed in the second round. Like if you get punked by a lesser team that bad, like I'm not making excuses for you.
You know what I mean? So the last couple of years, like I'm not chalking that up to being cursed or being injured. Like they, they, they didn't have the requisite edge and the energy, like they got punked by lesser teams. So I'm not making an excuse for that team 2022. I will a little bit.
Cause I think they just got outlasted by a team that was just a little bit better than Giannis, who probably playing his best basketball. Outlast and I'll play. Isn't that survivor. That is survivor. You've been watching survivor. No, I watched it.
Grant. I watched survivor before you were born. I don't, when did it start? I think like Nate, late nineties when it was 99. How old do you think I am?
26 was born in 98. So I was alive for a year, I guess. It's not like I was, it's not like I was around for a long time, but I mean, my coworker earlier today asked me, do you remember life without cell phones and smartphones? I'm like, what the fuck?
I had a, I called my friends on a landline. You Dick. Hello, Mrs. Smith. Can, is Robbie there? Can he come out?
Does he want to have a play date this weekend? Do I remember life without how old, any who it's just a small, just a small axe to grind, but that's not with you. With thanks to Paul and also thanks to grant. Thank you all for stopping. What just happened to my eye? Anyway, I'll worry about that later audio format, by the way, good podcast, Dan Cheney, YouTube stream. That's right. I want to see where my eye started twitching at the 42 Mark. Thanks for stopping all into the Winkler verse.
