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It’s officially mock draft season!

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February 20, 2024 3:14 pm

It’s officially mock draft season!

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February 20, 2024 3:14 pm

Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports, on the latest draft insights and who he believes will be the hot picks of the year.

How does he view and evaluated each QB in this year’s draft? What does Ryan think we don’t talk enough about when trying to figure out which player would do best on which team? What’s the market for Justin Fields? Can Ryan see the Chicago Bears trade back to #2? What’s the market for Brian Burns? What’s his take on NC State’s Payton Wilson?

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For the ones who get it done. Ryan Wilson, CBSSports.com, knows all about the mock draft game. We have started already. The mock draft season really began, I believe, after the confetti stopped falling in Vegas during the Super Bowl. And I believe, and with the first pick podcast is back.

And since Washington went and hired all their people, isn't Rick Spielman back? Are you guys joined at the hip already? Oh yeah, we just concluded the podcast, and we'll be in Indianapolis next week for the combine. It's like you never left. We actually reunited at the Senior Bowl a few weeks ago before the Super Bowl.

So we're back to being the old Mary Crochety couple that can only last so long in public before you gotta clear them out. Totally understand. But you guys are very good.

So let's get to the quarterback, the issue. I guess it is Drake Manno. You've got Jayden Daniels going number two to Washington, the Heisman Trophy winner from LSU.

But it's basically one, two, three. Caleb Williams is one. No matter where I look, it seems Caleb Williams is one.

Jayden Daniels or Drake May are two and three. What separates them for you? Do you really think Jayden Daniels is better? I'm not saying he's not. I mean, he won the Heisman Trophy, and LSU wasn't awesome this year.

So how do you view the difference between the three? It's close and Caleb to me on the field is the best quarterback in this class, and I don't think that part is close, but they're going to be some how involved his dad is going to be in his life will probably weigh into some degree and how teams have him stacked in terms of these quarterbacks. But on the field, I think he's special and all you have to do is watch. He did it USC and yes, they come up short, but he was sort of like Drake May and even Jay down the only show in town or his team.

And I think some of the things he was able to do very few people on planet Earth can do and the level at which he did it at times took my breath away. And then one of the questions was, does he want to compete and all this other stuff? Well, that team lost four or five games, I believe, and he played until the end of the very last game. That's UCLA.

It's a pretty good front there for UCLA. He played some high level football, and that to me said he's not just showing up when when the sunshine and things are going well. He'll tough it out and answer some questions for me in terms of drink main Jaden. They're pretty close, and I think they're different type players. Jaden is more Lamar Jackson to me. He's not as thick as Lamar.

He's probably 10, maybe even 15 pounds lighter. But the things he does in the open field that the the advancements he's made over the course of his college career, which started it airs on the state proves to me that he can get better. And sometimes you see guys and you wonder if they hit their ceiling once they leave college, and it doesn't work out for him in the NFL. I think Drake is a fantastic athlete with a big arm. We know his pedigree athletically from his family and in terms of the things that they've accomplished from his parents down to his brothers. I thought he was a little inconsistent last year, but the decision making left some things to be desired. But Adam, you can say about every single quarterback has ever played football at any level, so I'm not being in any of these guys because at the end of the day, guess what?

I have no idea all the time, and I probably told you this before. Five years from now, if someone said, Hey, Jaden Daniels ends up being Lamar Jackson 2.0, I wouldn't be shocked, but I also wouldn't be shocked if we see that Drake May is a better version of Trevor Lawrence, because that's also on the table. It's just the biggest thing is fit. Let's take Drake May and put him on the Carolina Panthers. Let's take Drake May and put him on Houston, Texas. Let's see which Drake May has the most success, because at the end of the day, that has so much to do with it.

We don't talk enough about that. I don't think they're in the pre draft process, but all these guys are insanely talented. All of them have an opportunity to be really good quarterbacks, but where they end up is going to have a lot to do with how successful they are and how quickly they are at being successful. So, it's not out of the realm of possibility. Ryan Wilson, CBSSports.com is joining us here, also part of the Pick 6 podcast, Super Friends.

We talked with Will Brinson yesterday about a lot of things, so it wouldn't surprise you if Drake May ended up being the best out of the three quarterbacks as a pro. I mean, any one of these three could ultimately be there. Would it make sense for Chicago to trade back to number two and get whatever the haul they could get for Washington to move up one spot? I guess there's some precedent for that. Chicago did it to get Mitch Trubisky.

Well, it's true, right? That's what happened. They traded up. They gave up a bunch to move up one spot, and they took Mitch Trubisky. That was in the Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson draft, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, that was... Without saying anything, we're burying the Bears right here.

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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. Grainger, for the ones who get it done. I mean, they did it last year, then took a quarterback, but they traded down from one to nine, and a lot of those players, including DJ Moore, was a big part of the success they were able to have. And I think there's a lot to be said for that. Now, it sounds like Justin Fields is no longer in their plans. That's just me reading the team leads to see what happens. They have a new offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron, who had great success with Geno Smith in Seattle, and wherever they go quarterback-wise, you can absolutely trade down, especially if when you grade these quarterbacks, there's not much difference, and you can talk yourself into whoever you be, too, is going to be. Or you don't love Caleb's dad's involvement or whatever the question may be.

Or maybe you just like Drake May better than you like anyone else, and this is best-case scenario. You can trade down. You're going to get a ton. You can shoot down one spot because you know what Washington's coming up for is coming for a quarterback and probably Caleb because of the Cliff Kingsbury connection. So, yeah, you can do that, but you better make sure that it's not a repeat of 2017 because, as you point out, people still bring up in hushed tones the Mr. Bisky trade-up when Patrick Mahomes was out there. Now, no one knows who Patrick Mahomes is going to be, and if they tell you that, they're probably not telling the truth except for John Dawson who drafted him. But otherwise, again, it's a crapshoot.

No one had any idea. Patrick sat for a year, played the final game of the season in his rookie season, and then they were off to the races, but we didn't know what that was going to look like, and there were some glimpses from Mitch that were like, okay, maybe this works out. He's an athletic quarterback that hasn't played a ton of football, and it's a crapshoot, and you just hope you get lucky and you get the guy because it could set you up for the next decade, or it can mean that you're going to be packing your boxes less than 12 months if things go sideways. I would seriously consider moving down, probably more so sticking with Justin than rolling the dice on one of these quarterbacks. So you're resetting the clock of expectations in terms of how quickly can this quarterback have success, and you kind of go from there.

Justin, I felt a little better about, but at the end of the day, if I'm Chicago, me personally, I'm just staying put, and I'm taking Caleb, and then I pick a given nine, and I'm getting a wide receiver or an edge rusher. What's the market, do you think, Ryan Wilson from CBS, what's the market for Justin Fields? Is it a number one? Is it a late number one? Is it a number two? Is it something more future-ish? What is the market for Fields?

I floated like a second and a fourth, and I haven't gotten a lot of pushback on that, so I think that's probably where the conversation begins. If someone seems desperate, maybe you get a late one, but I don't know if he's going to get a first-round pick. Crazy things happen all the time. We see wide receivers trade it for first-round picks, so I think Justin Fields is still incredibly young, and untapped potential is certainly the phrase that comes along with him. In the right spot, it feels like he could have some success. The Steelers make a ton of sense, especially with Arthur Smith now as the OC, but we'll find out. It feels like his time is done in Chicago. By the way, if you get a second and a fourth or whatever it is for Justin, and you trade down, and you get whatever quarterback you like after Caleb Williams, you have to win 11 points here for Chicago, because you're out of excuses.

There's no question. I think they'll stay put, because they've got decent draft capital anyway. I think they'll stay put where they are. Again, picking one and nine, you get the quarterback, and then you get a chance to take maybe an offensive lineman, maybe you take Brock Bowers at number nine, and give the quarterback also one of the best pass-catching tight ends to come out of college in a long time. Ryan Wilson from CBS Sports is joining us here on the Adam Gold Show. What's the market for Brian Burns? The Panthers do not pick until the first pick in the second round.

They have so many issues to deal with that I have been talking about, I've been talking about this for a long time, not just now, about rebuilding through the draft and getting draft capital. What could Brian Burns bring them? Is he still worth a number one, or are we talking about something more similar to what you think for Justin Fields? Feels like a dream, but didn't the 49ers offer reportedly two first round picks? The Rams last... The Rams, sorry. Two trading deadlines ago, not this past one, the one before.

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Grainger, for the ones who get it done. I mean, you're getting a one for Brian Burns. It doesn't matter what year it is, but I would imagine that the Panthers wish they had a time machine to go back and take that trade because they used those picks.

I don't know why, the details of why it didn't happen at the time, but it feels like you were offered a lottery ticket and you said, nah, I'm good. Right. All set here. But yeah, no, he'll bring it first. And the issue, of course, is you move on from Brian Burns.

What's plan B in terms of the edge rush? And hopefully you can address that with free agency or draft needs, but you're not going to find a Brian Burns, at least for cheap, unless you stumble into one in the draft that can come in and replace that level of productivity. So, right. I mean, your overall point is the, is the big takeaway for me, Adam said, there's so much work to do on this team and you just have to have an owner, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

You can be patient and let things turn around. And I don't know if we're at that point yet with Mr. Pepper, because he has shown an inability to be patient at times. Well, we don't know. We won't know until it happens, right? If, if the Panthers are 0-6 to start next season, we'll find out just where, where David Pepper, Tepper is.

I said Pepper because on the Scoville scale. Well, we'll find out if, if he is a Carolina Reaper, you know, before we hit October or not, because that's certainly his history is, is well documented at this point. Ryan Wilson is here.

You're at the, at the Senior Bowl. So let me get your take on NC State linebacker, Peyton Wilson, and where you think he might fall into this whole draft process. Well, we just talked about it on the podcast as incidentally, he's listed as a linebacker, but he lines up everywhere and he can do a lot of things really well.

He's incredibly athletic. The issues would be, you know, the spread of the injuries and he has history of injuries and he's, he's older and he's probably a day two talent and we'll see where he's cleared medically. And that's what they'll be. They'll put them through the, the ringer as it were next week at the combine, all the doctors will poke and prod and MRM to death and see where he is. And if he clears those hurdles, um, top 100 pick feels, I don't want to take a certainty, but it would make a ton of sense. The issue is that he's a little older, so he'll be coming off his rookie deal. He'll be 28, 29, as opposed to 25, 26 or whatever. And those are considerations you have as a team, as a fan or, or just someone who enjoys watching football.

You don't care about such things. You want good players on your team. And I think the linebacker position has been undervalued and a lot of these guys go later than potentially they may have in previous years. But knowing that and knowing how, how the level at which he plays that position, he feels like a day two pick to me. If he's healthy, if he were healthy and came out two years ago, we'd be having first round conversations about him.

Um, but he's had the knee and the shoulder and he's played a little longer than some other guys in college and that'll probably affect his draft stock a little bit. Ryan Wilson, CBSSports.com. Uh, you can check out also the, uh, and with the first pick podcast with Rick Spielman. Uh, pick six podcast.

He podcasts all day long. Uh, Ryan, thank you very much for the time, man. Appreciate it. We'll talk soon. Thank you, Adam. You're welcome.
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