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September 16, 2022 3:24 pm

Dept of Justice Scheme Against Trump Hits Roadblock

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September 16, 2022 3:24 pm

A federal judge in Florida just threw a wrench in the Department of Justice's legal case with President Trump. Yesterday, Judge Aileen Cannon appointed the special master requested by President Trump in his lawsuit regarding the FBI's raid on his Mar-a-Lago residence. The Justice Department had filed a motion attempting to stop the appointment, which Judge Cannon denied. Jay, Jordan, and the Sekulow team discuss the latest developments in this unprecedented case. This and more today on Sekulow.

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Justice is this Friday the 2000 6A, or 3110. There's lots to talk about action out of the court in Florida yet again member the Department of Justice fighting back everywhere. They can get the special master gives that the stay on the document review. Remember they were told no more investigative team gets access to these documents deliver special master review for privilege, lots of different privileges as well adds the national security team to move forward with the department just said that FBI can't do that they can't walk and chew gum at the same time so they went to try to get this they removed and they were repudiated strongly by the judge and only keep getting into it, but this is actually the first time in a legal filing by the judge, where she acknowledges the problem of leaking by the FBI directly of these documents that pay these are no less secure with lust overview because every time you know that we see news article. Like every time you get an adverse ruling something else leaks levitate what comes up and comes in the context of you.

Note the government United States when the adjuster said that they have to maintain exclusive control over these documents. Nobody can see uniting the special master. By the way they want the special master to see this so, but what's so fascinating here is that this which rights the court nonetheless cannot abdicate its control over questions of privilege does not bind the government's argument sufficiently convincing as presented. First, there's been no actual suggestion by the government of any identifiable emergency or imminent disclosure of classified information arising from the plaintiff's allegedly unlawful retention of the seas property instead and unfortunately her words, the unwarranted disclosures that float in the background have been leaks to the media after the underlying seizure, which of course was done by the Federal Bureau of investigation.

So I think it is the first time exceeded this direct that the disclosure itself was the basis upon which the judge said wait a minute you talking what you worried about that the plaintiff were present from disclosing these document journal and linking them so anything absurd. This is where they get the government consists now you bring up some other points in the next segment will it take your calls on all of this. I want to get people's reaction to this is a it's a big win in a big repudiation of the Department of Justice. She also said you know we'll just have to take the Department of Justice work on the stuff that's another big statement. I think that that's key. That's where the American people waiting for this idea that because they are acting as if no one can review these documents that's accidentally then this judge that they agreed to should not be given access to 100 documents to the special master. They agreed to add. The truth is for one people gets the right security clearances but but to this is, I think that Washington like Rick always talks of the over classification so that they control everything and then you talk about so that there is no they have no review. No one is actually the oversight vessel department justice and FBI kits to make the use the classification process, especially the highly classification process to remove themselves from oversight when the next congressional oversight. Now here to support you know I'll get to this annexing the broadcast of technicals and 800-684-3110 but they talk about the no plausible claim of privilege issue and the court says the court does not find an appropriate to accepting procedure bank statements to accept the government's conclusion on these important and disputed matters without further review by a neutral third-party in an expedited and orderly fashion.

And then she said some of these materials undisputedly constitute personal property and or are privileged so and then it goes on LOL get tomorrow we come back in the brave a lot to discuss here on this and we want to take your call at 800-684-3110 Dennis Wright join us on the broadcast at 1-800-684-3110 is always good. ACLJ.org as well encourage you check out all the work they were doing their often times we don't get to all the broadcast in the week so you can check that out to for all what ACLJ is up to what our team is doing with government affairs, legal team as well. ACLJ.org to be part of the show.

Give us a call 1-800-684-3110 government they are coequal branch together but you would not know that when the left.

Of course you start with the dog decision were dancing at the District Court level, which the trial court level exit. It's the level of court we go through all the evidence you go through all the tough stuff right there by let's talk about the appellate courts of the Georgia 11th circuit or the Supreme Court, but the truth is where all of these, especially at a heavy documents case like this is all about documents and this idea that the judge has given no discretion when when they are trial court judges. Their job is to figure out how to move forward and protect both parties rights not just the Department of Justice either treating this like a Pfizer court instead of a actual court where it where you have to have both sides getting fair treatment.

They're saying basically the government saying because it unlocks you to deceive in DC. A lot of those just even trial court judges give tundra deference to the federal government yeah but how much would the Washington DC. This is not like their home turf.

Well look cheap this judge I think start is she getting a lot of criticism from the left. This judges because they disagree with her opinion. That's just not the way it works. We could disagree depending is anything is wrong with them is like almost vindictive vindictive in town. But here's what's so interesting, so that they talk about the two bases upon which lawyers moved to to have the special master point but sure you realize. Also, they're saying we don't trust the special master and we don't trust a judge from the Eastern District of New York that the Department of Justice agreed to would be a good special master. We are just that person to be to review these 100 documents that the judge then points out that your that no problem leaking to the press. But what's interesting here. They said that usually go there two bases upon which they're going to do this, about 100 isolated documents by the government are classified government records.

The plaintiff therefore has no interest in this.

The government's position.

The second is that the plaintiff has no plausible claim of privilege to any document is what the judge says the court does not find it appropriate to accept the government's conclusions on these important disputed issues without further review by a neutral third-party an expedited and orderly fashion. Now you would think right there that would be in an logical conclusion that 1/3 party review it, but no but this is what the judge then says under these circumstances and and and and monitors of social meaning that when I say were not courting. I'm reading from the courts opinion here is this is what this is what the judge said about the Department of Justice on this under these circumstances, the court declines to conduct by a subset by subset piece minimal piecemeal analysis of the seized property based on entirely on the government's representation of what is contained in a select portion of the property, which he said was I'm not going to just take it on the government's representation.

Ask yourself this question, what are they so concerned about in these 100 documents as the judge said they're the ones that allegiance to the press week similar to the press.

I think that was very clear which said instead of forcing the unrewarded disclosures the flow of the back credit release the media after they've seized documents after they got the document so there's only one group that is leaking that at because it is.

It's a deal. Chase every time to get an adverse ruling from this judge something out like they tried to put it out you. This is so top-secret what the judge's sake. I think again will turn up pieces of paper. We are talking about you again classification process which I think the America people testing is complicated at best when legally challenged that. I think were WJ's writing an issue is that it's an egg, courts are very wary to get involved in executive power. The executive power issue especially comes to classification so I don't see the comments coming in what he says like immigration attorney to represent some I think of the 9/11. And some people Guantnamo. He said he had been litigating against the US, for 30 years never seen a federal judge, disregard executive branch classifications considered such extent, the reason why you're seeing at the subject is not disregarding what he sees.

Ethan said I been litigating against the US for 30 years regarding classified documents so he should and he doesn't like the heating get the ruling right but he's upset the 12 floors got the ruling right where is that bad for you as far as a bright course. This I think to be again in his cases, I get it.

What document one person, one issue one terrorist attack, something like that and maybe he's right that he should regard access top bore of information, because we have heard directly from from top intelligence officials that are part of our team ACLJ they go way too far classifications. That was something present.

Trump wanted to address yet through not just himself and yelled him declassified documents but also like recruit okay minister is acting the United States. These documents should not be unavailable to the American people. We need to be more transparent but I think you think it's interesting that the lawyer right in the litigating is the US government in 30 years regarding classified records. Please litigating it before Democratic and GOP appointed judges I've never seen a federal judge, disregard executive branch concerns such as the Stennis judge candidate tonight, so he's complaining he raised the same issues and for his clients and then said, but by the way, I've never seen this means you never got an order like this. These lawyers were able to get you can try to get those orders all this to say we think that a coequal branch of government has to just say I will just take whatever the department of justice as his gospel, not truth and that's it.

It doesn't I think this is what's happened here and I got blamed I got a lot more to go through on this like the fact is, the judge says that you know there's no him this been going on for 18 months he been fighting over these documents is been no leak in the documents until the FBI doesn't trade underage search warrant and then there's leaks by the trunk people.

These are links bio documents so ask yourself that question sheet. The judge notably raised it rather taken up the 11th circuit Court of Appeals on an emergency basis to you I listed that that point has to be take repeated over and over and over.

Get over this to your process, not a single one of these documents has been released and will eat utilize and retrace a present terms utilized is try to use it for blackmail of what has happened take so whatever is there and also install goes back they give if they were truly concerned about these documents you would wait two years you would wait five days to issue it to execute a search warrant. The list goes on and on and you would leak them to the Washington Post so they have a pattern here. The truth is, when you look at their pattern. How they treat present drop. It is unlike any other person to give more better rights and protection to these terrorists. The try him and instead of just say hey we need these doctors back it will go back and forth and have this discussion know it's a national security issue. But for good reason, we would know that there's less care issues because the action by department adjusted FBI would you initially think that it was quietly why is it that the they will think that a federal court judge in a skiff in a secure environment could review these hundred documents that they had no problem leaking some out. Why is that such a big leap of acting like this is some gigantic link that they're taking here, but the judge said you know again I'm in a repeated presenting sees materials to a grand jury and using the content of the documents to conduct witnesses and abuse part of a criminal investigation. That's what has stopped you can use those for witness questioning.

You can't use those for grand jury proceedings but the national security team at the department.

Justice can use those for their assessment but that's not good enough when they're saying here is what the government is saying here is that the temporary restraint that the judge put in place impacts their ability to do their prosecution and their job was also tells you that there and of the government, but the government is looking for here, which is a criminal case I believe is any question about that at this point I was getting a cost of 100 684 31 two that's what hundred 684-3110, but I think to this point into this issue seems to be a it's the first time really they're being treated the way they should buy by course skeptical.just get everything you want, not just get everything that that's how it should be both sides should be treated with skepticism by judges should be of the going that way. They're both making arguments both try to convince you of something, and in this case.

What is interesting is how much their freaking out of a procedure and they really are.

I meet this way. I go back to that. I go back this at subsequent what in his in these 100 pages 100 documents that's got them so concerned and if they are not concerned why would you be concerned about a judge reviewing them. You think what you think they wanted just to just get a free shot which is actually what they do think they think nobody gets the season. These but the Department of Justice which goes that whole issue of ability.

Yes credibility and then remember in the first order, the judge pointed out that were at least two instances where the tank team that was once was. We were about reviewing the separately gave the documents over to the investigators even though they were privileged to just think about that for a moment think you can't divorce the decision from the background of the case and that's what I think is the fundamental aspect of it here.

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It's got everything in so I really encourage you to do it. Secular brothers.com leave a review queue that really helps to be back with more including your phone calls in just a moment singular to your phone's questions about this one 800 684 30 went to the bed question is concave legal procedure, but would try to explain it to get after you understand where this is in the process where to go to phone South edits get one 800 684 31 to 4 talk to us on airway discolored from York on my one a white wall will alter one will have more of all or was it more more more like (or to process what we saw was the day the special master was appointed late in life after they pose that is still opposing that they peel you to the 11th circuit that was the day the Washington Post came out of the story saying their sources it at the FBI. Let them know that one of these documents contain nuclear information about another country so another country's nuclear programs which Amy can be many different countries, but that's not the FBI trying to be transparent. That's the FBI undercutting a judge decision and the legal process and that's because I think it goes back to this idea.

This is the whole issue with Pfizer courts, secret courts class classifying everything to a point where there is no oversight available.

They got used to that at the DOJ and FBI were. Yes, occasionally they get it they enter the cable get in trouble for leaking.

Occasionally Peter Strock would get in trouble for the partisan politics, but the truth was the bigger picture is they control the info and no one else could see it on their taking the position that they're the only ones I can control info they don't trust the coequal branch of government, the judicial branch so it's just the executive that's how they're doing this so what's interesting here and to go to wage question is, the court said that nonetheless we cannot abdicate the court talking, but its role cannot abdicate its control over questions of privilege and does not find the government's argument sufficiently convincing as presented.

First, there has been no actual suggestion by the government of any identifiable emergency or imminent disclosure of classified information arising from the plaintiff's allegedly unlawful retention of the seized property of the words there's nothing that saying this information is about to be late to me got a stop like an injunction instead.

And unfortunately, this is her words, the judges, the unwarranted disclosures that float in the background have been leaks to the media emphasis added after the underlying seizure though the department of justice. That is what the that those of the background factors in all of this and this judge is saying you're asking us to just give you blind trust and she says another porch of the judges, and other portable pinwheels to take the governance word for basically we'll just have to taste it. What they say it.

That's it.

Also, she points out the limited scope of the order.

All the order says is and this is what is so II think any are ironic to me is that for a period of a basically six weeks eight weeks. This is what's gonna happen a special masters and review these documents. The first hundred will be the priority because I was once a government is docked, documented his today centers are the really privileged documents or classified documents in the government say no that's not good enough.

We don't want a judge reviewing it.

So we need to take the courts work for businesses. The problem it's like a Pfizer core problem. You know, Pfizer core problems find it to you had a real problem that that was the FBI misleading the Pfizer court, but that's because there is no defense lawyer at a Pfizer court and when you have a star chamber you run that risk and in a country like ours. I'm just not sure at the Pfizer courts are. It is a very close call whether or not that is a process we should be allowing without magic even if it wasn't the defense lawyer but an appointed lawyer as a defense lawyer. It may be necessary think the rest of my disorders ended that what we saw under the Trump years was how they are abusing it to after Americans by classifying them as foreign agents right which, again, they don't have the ability to make an argument to say I'm not a foreign agent Video I made of this work that I registered this type with this application. It's also we saw this but a lot of selective use of law. The last few years, so laws that they've never enforced laws have been on the books never used by DOJ for the Pharaoh laws for agent registration that they never used know exactly their resting people over, and so that his yearly maintenance is a good legal system because you can't predict how what you what actions are appropriate when extra inappropriate even like what line at what point do you need to file Pharaoh. They're not real clear on so it's likely selectively use it to go after political opponents, which is the worst kind of legal system in the world. It's no legal system at all. So here's was so interesting that there motion. The government's motion which he denies.

Request a stay of the special master incident number one we want to enjoy this injunction up further review and use of criminal investigation purposes of the records bearing classification markers that were covered pursuant to court authorized search warrant that order saying we can't proceed on that should be set aside and then secondly they say would also be set-asides is that the government would have to disclose classified records to a special master for review what you think about that for a moment, the United States government is saying we should not be compelled to disclose to a judge appointed by a judge, so it's a judge will appointed a judge.

A judge why would they agree to be fair because that will require us to disclose was classified records and then she goes on later to say the court does.

And by the way, the only leak of those documents and because after the after the search warrant was executed documents leaked to the Washington Post that we think about what they're actually if you think about what the government asking for. They wanted one check unfettered right to review these documents themselves determine privilege themselves determine ownership and control themselves without court review as if the article 3 of the United States Constitution has been written out and it's just not the way the Burke works and this judgment were not taken the Department of Justice work for this right 164 30 when I had the elegant go to JB a Janie in Nevada online 380 and Greg Wilder years ago and I worked at the Department of Defense on a top-secret clearance. Even though I had the claimant admitting that I was able to see everything the document. It was Stallings and I need to know basis, correct question is if teeth were electrically top-secret classified document did they make sure that every FBI agent was sent to rate the property they have a top-secret SCI clearance is an issue came out it came out in a manner top-secret sound like you really do know your your your classifications of the day. Neck may not had the SEI clearances special compartmentalized information and so that became a question two. But even then Janie would happen was in the judge pointed this out in a previous order, even with the taint team in place. The taint team mistakenly gave tainted material to the investigators at least twice.

The judge says so that was wrong and that's the problem we have this internal taint team. It's all the same process so vitally special masters are appointed all the time but didn't.

I again want to emphasize with the government asserting in the brief. They wanted unfettered unchecked ability to not give these documents even to a judge. Yeah, that's right. Are you folks at 164 30 wanted to get your questions rather than administer the forget) again forward to this issue. If your question about a continued cause about that will keep you taken your calls at one 800 684 31, two were also going to talk some more this immigration at the border issue we got the White House again claiming that the border is secure.

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This effort to let the rest of the country little taste of what this is like an elective. Now it's back to the point where they would soon really your social media platforms. Right now you're on rumble you hit the + if you're on Facebook you could share your own YouTube. He thumbs up and very important to have this information. Don't forget secular brothers podcast secular brothers.com great information there more moment for decades. ACLJ is been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work become a member today ACLJ keeping you informed and now is Jordan secular secular segment of our 164, 110 we look to your calls or common sense at one 800-4312. There's been another victory is procedural but substance in the sense that you have the judge this in the case involving the monologue array the documents. There and the DOJ's opposition to a special master to review the documents for privileged information because they Artie bested up as one of the issues as they Artie best up reviewing the documents and they think gave privileged information over to the investigative team that's a criminal investigative team so information they they did not have a right or should not of been able to access the judge. He said okay let's slow down a little bit but support a special master who will just go through the documents so that you know clearly 1/3 party said here's a document you can use your criminal investigation.

Here's a document you cannot use for criminal investigation that the blogger present from and they're saying we do not want to be required for the government to disclose classified records to a special master for review. That's what they said the ice they probably just even though that third-party special master for review is a US District Court judge for the Eastern District of New York they don't want to disclose their and then they talk about, you know, worrying about documents being put out publicly in the judge wisely and correctly says let's interesting except that the only time the documents have been put out on this case was after the rate the only leaks were leaks to the media so she saying.

Also, she says in her opinion. We don't have to just take the government work for all this because there is no counterchecks here. Let's go and take a phone call one 806 1/4 hour to get your view on this post and any question. I know you got questions on this 1-800-684-3110 was going to call her back the phones we go just in California on my what he just like all the Hapeville on March 6, 2020 March 6, 2020. The department bent plate. The term for official use only with controlled unclassified information in regards to how unclassified rigid handle. The return got pregnant from didn't need to class ready document that was tomorrow moderate.do the parameters change after that. March 6, 2020 change based on the requirements for family by classified information is a great question just might change everyone else but a President so the President is different than everyone else because only the President has the ability on his own to declassify information that we don't know the extent that is not been litigated out here and they really have not asserted a lot about it.

But when your question is does the changing it for official use only. I remember reading about that to controlled unclassified information that means the government is not classified. But the government just doesn't want out there. This goes back to again there in the day over classification over to Troy David using the word. There control. We don't want to have access to. We don't want the public to have access to it.

And even though we can't use classification that will work here were still not were still going to fight the receipts on Tyler for the work were to fight you are trying to get this information and and I think my mind is there's a proper role. We all know that for classification dental proper role for you needed legal system to take down terrorists and terrorist groups you needed at AA FBI that can law enforcement agency like that at federal level to go after drug cartels and to prosecute and to be able put together those complicated cases against organized crime, but when they when they put their feet into this political world like decision-making over what's classified and what's under present. Having that unique role. The declassify whenever whatever they want and then litigating that they are also running the risk of a court saying that Not a place correct and they will. They ran into that here innovate. They acknowledged in the pre-motions that for this order that they did. In fact, at least on two occasions give material that was tainted then the word spirit would to the investigators which I shouldn't of done and they never did any reason on how they were correcting it. That's number one and number two is again. The judge said the only leaks of information here been after the rate after the search warrant was actually that's on stuff late so greatly from answers itself are particular calls 100-684-3110 800-684-3110. More about this more about the immigration issue something very troubling for our US military to work to get into 800-684-3110 will be back with the don't forget secular brothers.com for the Logan and Jordan's podcast.

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Secular brothers.com secular figure from Ted. That's what hundred 64 310 the right to vote and the in Florida on line 3 and a guy. Thank you for taking my call. Like a two-part question that Gore the 11th Ct. to court and Department of Justice when their appeal wanders the day the employee if the truck team decide they want to go to the Supreme Court is that there next. Next thing is after go the screen court what it it's multiple steps. So let's say that governments Artie files. Let's say the Supreme Court is currently the Blevins or Greta means one way or another they may say yes to the government. They may say no to the government than either party party that loses could ask for rehearing en banc which means ass the entire 11th circuit to hear the case on an expedited basis or in the alternative, the losing party could then request certiorari to the Supreme Court, which will probably be on an expedited basis to, and I think I just think about that from our standpoint. The ACLJI will weigh in on that at the Supreme Court level because this idea that the government it's a free pass and can allow a judge to see the material in the in this context that they had attained team that was reviewing it went on with their level classification where there are supposedly some issues with that, but Carla Smith is here who in the military had clearance because the Adam handle material that was classified so Wes you putting out the fact that how this material that had clearance you have a need to know yeah is supposed to be extremely as we see in the military close whole and that is you not only have to have a clearance to see that the documents you have to have a reason that you need to see them was: need to know and my fear may be. My suspicion is that you know they are not really keeping that that standard that I think this should be an extremely extremely small group of FBI agents that even know what in the material, and I doubt that that's the case, the question I day I die. Do I think the judge kind of alluded to that could be a property question I have on this point and that is you don't understand folks that when it's classified. That doesn't mean people don't see it so they don't want eight article 3 judges, a coequal branch of government to review it sworn to uphold the Constitution with security clearances and certainly could get additional security clearances clearances. But when it's deemed classified West, it doesn't mean that people don't see it that have a need to know absolutely not. There are still people that can look at this and I need to know because they have a need to know and they had clearance so I think we gotta get that.

I'm glad were able to clarify a lot of these things for you and II think to this you created. Question two. I think the procedural matters of special master the set on that river weirdest Titus of the break. The special master here is not telling the proper justice what's classified what's that that making decisions on that they're making decisions on what's appropriate for you to review for your criminal purposes and what's not what it belongs to Donald Trump that that's the truth and and that's it. That what level. This was classified at whether the classification was waived by three was declassified because that is a whole other legal issue that I think Department of Justice probably is a very weak case a day because I think that the present power declassify so far out outweighs anybody else their abilities to assert that after the fact, one of the present has the ultimate ability declassify musical energy if there's nobody from Deauville to so Corsi if he did, and I love the details on that. But if he did that. That's all different story. Here's what's interesting that in general.

David traces case there was an issue of classified information. Wes that he took and gave to his biographer was writing a story about him. I don't recall in an alley. Take a look at this and I recall his house being rated by the FBI, Sandy Berger went to the national archives and stole a document putting in his sock sock did they would rate his house. I'm not sure I want to find those out because of this exacted a Harley. If I had when I hear what they and stop at Hardee's Park UI that it wasn't treated the same way, the way that he didn't like yeah that's a whole way.

People are being treated here.

Thing is, it's way over the I think that on the on that when I think on the the and I deceived Attica traces the equation. The guy first.

But you know he is a free-speech right to say we wants to say we do in America you could say I thought the election was taken. Your a lot of say that you may not be right for dentists to stop a person in that particular case in the parking lot of the Hardee's I mean and Hardee's made a joke about it.

They said they had the fluffy is built by the electrical outlets. This is where the FBI it seems ridiculous yet, but the it it doesn't seem to think that they have consequences until a judge in writing.

We don't want you to give this information to anybody else.

Only our agents. Like you said West, who knows what level of review they had accidentally gave it to the tape from the tainting the prosecutors investigate what they were exposed to in the judge said at least twice and the government in their briefs never said what corrective action they taken to avoid that well and as you alluded to earlier. Thankfully, the judge also pointed out rather pointedly that the leaks were coming from the Department of Justice and the FBI not from anyone else chain of lakes started after they did the right is exactly it was. The Washington Post only raise rates that are supposed day special master gets appointed treatment evening so the next morning you wake up to the headline of there was nuclear information that another country in the documents now for two years like you said it like the judge just talked about for two years did he release like that. There's a death in the news about Donald Trump has documents about the kroner he has documents about some of the country's nuclear info until they got an adverse ruling from a federal judge and then you start learning what they claim is in the documents that they start leaking their friends in the in the media. I think that is what is so offputting about this entire process is that they just don't seem to follow anyone's rules. They don't seem to know Wes, it's so specific as what can and cannot be done and then the in the idea that and I think this is something important for people understand it's not like classified information is not reviewed by people that have clearance if they have a need to know they get to review it. So to say, the judge can't review is the government saying we don't want to be checked on this. I think that's what it's about ready to go and and perhaps there are there. There's information in these documents. That makes the FBI look bad. Numerical and keeps being indignant about us not trusting the FBI. They continue to do things that for the average American. It breeds distrust of their methods and their motives. With the judge at about that very point is, under the circumstances, the court declines to conduct a subset by subset piecemeal analysis of the seized property based entirely on the government's representation about what is contained in a select portion of the property. You can't be much more specific than that. Her saying you know what the government just doesn't get a free pass here. That's not the way this worker, let's take another call 800-684-3110, 1-800-684-3110 Alex in North Carolina online for Alex] module.

My question is, who is currently holding the document and that they make several copies already, who's holding the doctors guess what shocking breaking news alert is a great question Alice justice and then want anyone to see it, including the judge so they are holding the actual documents which does raise the question that was alluded to what Jessica besides a classification is when they still worried about are they worried that this whole process is been tainted because maybe you shouldn't have gone to a magistrate that had recused himself from a previous case involving this very plaintiff Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton and he recuse himself because of concerns over bias because he posted on social media, anti-Trump statements before he became a US magistrate that maybe that's were to the start or that then when they do the actual execution of the warrant. They mistakingly give tainted material. That's what it's called material that was be deemed privilege either attorney-client or executive and mistakingly gave it to the investigators. What happened to you. By the way, if you mistakenly gave it to the wrong party owning Asia. While in your military career ending underwriting the absolutely no we are held accountable does reach that level of criminal act and yes if if it was done maliciously and intentionally absolutely true and I has been done yet. So I mean I'm not saying about was malicious or intentional or just find it ironic I find ironic because Jordan I did this for four years. This is it. I said this to my wife this morning and I mean this to Pat I sent you know what you know what this order did it vindicated everything we said for four years. During the molar Ukraine nonsense that we had to deal with it. It's just like that never stops. It's always the same thing every time you it's always a think it seems like too much of a game for how seriously try to allege it in the name they make up this legal game of note what one now there's a rush selection upon us this going on for two years. No action whatsoever they start action early this summer and now they're mad that they can't what I leak enough of this out before the midterm election or try to leak out information which is tough to Cut cataract because they control the documents once they lose control. These documents, the special master they can try to leak whatever they want, but all you you can just say Bacchus later. Then I went with the FBI disappointment just doesn't want to just to see the this tells you what it is our folks. Let me take something we got provide you a lot of content on this broadcast and Jordan Logan are not doing three times a week secular brothers podcast. It's incredible. It's detailed, it's news. It's funny at the same time and they cover almost issues is a whole different side of this. You needed go to secular brothers.com sign up where you listen to podcast and leave a comment his love and encourage you to do that today.

It's really great that she could watch it and so dated so it's live preview episode this week throughout the week you could start with the first episode anchored to do that if you over the weekend driving car divesting listen and watch as well. Secular brothers.com call if you show what hundred 684 31 to call on this. There were gifts a couple other topics.

The spinal segment of the broadcast of your Michael in California on my what a Michael liquid and hold the Department of Justice or parties within the Department of Justice in contempt of court for not turning over the documents to the court okay so at the expiration of their apizza cortices in order. You have to follow the order of the special master, unless you get a stay from a higher court or of the judge could issue a state judge declined to issue the stay here said no the documents you go to the special master for review date than the government department justice filed an appeal with the 11th circuit on an expedited basis that probably can be decided this weekend is my guess at three-judge panel and then if that court says no get them over to the special master they could then go to the Supreme Court on expedited back basis and hold it up a bit, but they're not allowed to violate the court's injunction, which said you cannot use these information to question interviews to go to a grand jury. The question witnesses, but that does tell you folks that they are looking at this is a criminal case by the intelligent I understand why the same as the documentation is a document case, but you don't go to witnesses to a grand jury on what you think is a criminal case so that that's either viewing this so the lawyers here do the right thing.

The present form presents worse by by getting these motions. Now, finally, before the court and they got in the judge and understands the scope and nature. But let's go to a couple of the topics on which you talked about on radio yesterday.

Scott I listen to it on your podcast and it is infuriating folks for our US military yeah and it is that American soldier West had a piece up@aclj.org about this how they're being instructed to utilize foodstamp progress is discussed avail to feed their families put food on the table. We don't military pay is not high. There are other benefits that come through military pay, but if you can't. During this time of inflation whether celebrate the White House with the James Taylor concert and are our men and women who volunteer to risk their life to defend our freedoms. I can't put basics on the table food. Yeah Sgt. major of the Army, which is the senior enlisted guy at the Pentagon issued instructions and guidance on how to apply for the snap program which is a foodstamp program for for soldiers and in the military and on the one hand, I was glad that the Pentagon is recognizing that junior enlisted soldier are struggling on the other hand it was insulting that people who wear the uniform who sometimes die for their country are are you having to apply for food stamps in order to feed their families and some of them I know this for a fact of going to like church food banks to get food. These are people that serve our country. It made the party on the White House lawn where he counted over to kill.

How much better the economy was and how much better the American people work, I was insulted watching the party knowing what was happening with the Sgt. major put this information on a Monday this past Monday edition while all the stuff was mellow and absolutely here's the thing I don't understand if this is the case, and it's horrible. We don't pay the minimum enough that I have in our country. But if there really is because of the inflation stuff which is by the ministrations fault why don't we have a food program okay this is really a problem obviously forgot the Sgt. major's attention. It's a problem when we have a program so that we could respect the dignity of the men and women that wear uniform that we can provide food groceries on the basis through the PX or whatever it might be on the move at the exit anymore through, so the systems so that they don't we have the dignity of the men and women serving our country rather than having to get food stamps in line at the Kroger store. Well everything is going up, food, gas and rent everything I look this in figures job just yesterday and they got a 2.7% pay raise. Two years ago. Last year they got a 3% pay raise this year they're projecting for 2020 3A 4.6 pay rates when you put that alongside inflation over the last three years. Soldiers in the military have received a pay cut of 12.5% over the last three years before inflation hit but think and it can for grocer to Ken for groceries at the average G4 Cpl. without or the spouse and two kids. Next, 2400 month before taxes. If they if they don't live on poster.

Most of them don't have housing limited. They get an additional approximately 900 a month depending on where they live for rent and utilities which and I've witnessed since a person was at work. $13 an hour at witnessed a person that soldiers live in undesirable, high crime neighborhoods because that's the only place they can afford, and now they're having to apply for food stamps. I'm not a fan of Pres. Biden or any President, your ruling by Executive Order in and making pronouncements with the PN by decree, but he is there commander-in-chief. He is the taught he is at the top of their chain of command.

He needs to issue an executive order to do something during this inflation.

To give our soldiers relief $15.62 an hour is what an extra for taxes $15 an hour which is I think what they paid you work at AAA or at latest, and they wonder whether falling short of the recruiting goals.

They are cradles were embarrassing. These men and women lie same you can afford to take that as it if there is an issue there's a way to address it without a bag.

We understand the loans but I really cannot really write $10,000.

And so it think about where that money to God to have any families on military bases to make you where they don't have to have this stigma is a statement with foodstamp survey. I think that the less they try to sail to stop at.

There isn't usually lettering that is you've got your going through.

It's not employed because foodstamp is the site but it does come with a stigma. It does mean that something is got out of your life for these individuals there working serving their country. They don't have that issue so they haven't had like a catastrophic event happened or where they can't work in the need assistance to put food on the table. They are voluntarily working serving our country and and are being treated the same as people who are in these dire situations or who are who are working to provide for family know what you got a got a an article a piece up at ACLJ yesterday. It puts it all is just talk about soldiers on food stamps.

What you need to know and upcoming folks I mean assistance is horrific now is talk about the border really got to get the border area today because I would say that I think this place it's with this is the House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer with a Bacchus about the deep state, but your brother do you like Schumer say that I mess with those guys write check out this is the how is the House Majority Leader last night in the US has taken us they made it quite clear they want to eliminate what they call the deep state. The deep state is a cadre of professionals dedicated to honoring the Constitution, the laws of this country and carrying out the policies of the Congress and the President anywhere just say the deep state is profession, but there is a there is a deep state at the door there professionals yet okay folks, we are living in another planet. This is when this is okay when of elections because of me really said any story saying that maybe I clearly want to limit the deep state, but the deep state is a kind of excellent job such as the border is secure. If your definition secure means it's unsecure as a new strategy from the left, which is religiously rectifying on this issue agreement yet we are the deep state will keep them on our side. It's a signal to all those, but those bad bureaucrats really are talking that there's entrance bureaucracy. That's why was he deep-sixed tough to remove them and their to sit there giving that single them is where your friends. The site is not your friend want to get they were here in your job will protect job to come after and go after those guys exactly ready folks who want to the coupling support working Americans in Milan just broadcast every day just part of what we do ACLJ.org you know about our legal work will work on these military men and women getting the pay they need pay for their food and groceries will get a sales based on repairs of the work on that.

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