TRUMP RAID: Are You Next?

Today on Sekulow, the FBI raids, President Trump's home.

The question, are you next? Keeping you informed and engaged. Now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you.

Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. Two failed impeachments, one failed special counsel investigation, one questionable election, and now an FBI raid into the former President of the United States, Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home and his personal residence there. Folks, we live right now in this situation. We've been talking about the weaponization of these executive branch agencies, specifically law enforcement, the IRS, which has a huge law enforcement wing within it. And we've talked about how it's been politicized. This is banana republic style politicization of executive branch agencies.

This is third world style. This is not the United States of America, or it's not what the United States of America should be. The problem is how do you correct these wrongs when the bad actors are running rampant with power in Washington DC? And they're adding 87,000 new agents to come after you. The same way they're coming after Donald Trump.

They might be using FBI and documents for him and pieces of paper. For you it will be audits of your small business, audits of people making less than $200,000 a year who can't rely on lots of attorneys and accountants to protect them. So be vigilant at a time when your government is kind of telling you very clearly what they think about you. What they think about you if you're a Trump supporter. What they think about you if you are a conservative.

What they think about you if you hold Christian views. This ultimately, again folks, this raid which is unprecedented in history should be the wake-up call of all wake-up calls to the conservative movement in America. We had a President, you might not like though always the way he talked or what he tweeted, we had a President who put together peace in the Middle East, economic stability in our country, was handling the border, making incredible gains in foreign policy. Russia was not invading Ukraine like it was under the Obama-Biden administration and like it is today. We were working on plans to remove, to get out of Afghanistan but not in a chaotic way.

We were meeting with new world leaders trying to figure out ways around conflict. We didn't see China taking actions like they are with around Taiwan but they just didn't like the man and they know that he might come back. I'll read his statement as he said, these are dark times for our nation as my beautiful home Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach is currently under siege, raided and occupied by a large group of FBI agents. Nothing like this has ever happened to a President in the history of the United States before and he talks about how this is attacked by radical left democrats who desperately don't want me to run for President in 2024.

That is obviously the case as well. I mean the fact is they act like they don't, they're not concerned, oh he's former President Trump, no big deal, no big deal. This is their entire focus of both the executive branch and the Democrat controlled Congress has been the January 6th committee, how do we you know the impeachments, how do we get Donald Trump, how can we make sure Donald Trump's not our political opponent because the political movement that he's put together is too powerful and it is outlasting.

It's not even just about him, it's about this whole idea that he's created that we can be great again, that we can be the world's superpower in a world with China. I want to take your phone calls, we're going to be joined by Senator Lindsey Graham next, we're going to be joined by Rick Rinnell in the second half hour of the broadcast but we're taking your calls as well 1-800-684-3110 because if it can happen to the former President of the United States, guess how easily it can happen to you and they got 87,000 new IRS agents ready to come knock on your door. Give us a call at 1-800-684-3110 that's 1-800-684-3110 as always I encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ which also includes getting this broadcast out every day at ACLJ.org but this is the warning, this is the wake up moment. Have you woken up? Do you realize how dangerous this precedent is?

Give us a call 1-800-684-3110 we'll be right back. Domestically this is a very serious time for our country as people are taking in the news about this raid on a former President's home which is unprecedented history. We're joined now by a great friend of the ACLJ Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Senator Graham you tweeted that we're about you know 100 days from a midterm election and while no one is above the law, I think this is a great point, the law must be above politics.

What are you concerned about like these optics? I mean this is this is I think very dangerous for our country leading into an election year but also in general this kind of idea of the executive branch being weaponized against one political viewpoint. Well here's my concern is that if you look at the FBI actions toward President Trump through the Mueller investigation you will find an FBI lawyer manipulating evidence to the FISA court. The FBI and DOJ were reprimanded by the FISA court for withholding exculpatory information regarding the Carter Page warrant.

The guy pled guilty, got probation but it's still a crime. The Mueller investigation was right into its core, they ignored exculpatory information, ran every stop sign you could run, believed every bad thing whether they checked it out or not and ignored the Russian subsource disavowing the primary document to get the Carter Page warrant. They've been investigating Trump for five years now and what I would say to people is that the burden on the Department of Justice is exceedingly high, you're a hundred days away from a midterm election, it's pretty well known that President Trump's going to run again so this reeks of politics and stay tuned. Yeah I mean we saw with Christopher Wray last week you were you and your colleagues were questioning him about the way the FBI was handling investigations and I think what concerns me I mean I heard it from so many people last night as this news was breaking is they just have this total distrust which I understand in the institutions of America especially in our federal law enforcement institutions. They see the hearing last week where Christopher Wray kind of laughs off and doesn't really take seriously a lot of the questions, isn't prepared to answer and then this happens their trust is if not low maybe even gone in these institutions. I mean this it's very serious do you think the FBI they realize what they're doing to themselves? I don't know but everybody says well a warrant has to be signed off by a judge I've heard that all over CNN and MSNBC well that same process was used against Carter Page right a warrant had to be signed by a judge well the judge is not you know it's no better than the information given so the fact that a warrant was obtained means nothing to me given the given the crossfire hurricane investigation so the bottom line here is half the country believes they're out to get to Trump get Trump they'll use the law as a way of doing it and there's zero confidence now there's two things going on here there's the suspense and the wise men's and the caves and the page and struck and you know all those folks the cast of characters then there's the average FBI is out there risking their lives child pornography cases, terrorism cases, investigating China and Russia's effort to infiltrate America so defunding the FBI is not the solution right the solution is transparency and holding people accountable when they commit wrongs so the bottom line here is I think is incumbent upon the Department of Justice to inform the Congress in a reasonable fashion about what's going on here because this is such an extraordinary move a hundred days before the election and as to President Trump and he was strong yesterday he's stronger today yeah obviously I was going to ask you that because yeah it's not usual that we would get a lot of information from the FBI or DOJ during a matter a normal even high profile investigation like this when it when we see a raid and we see kind of some movement but when it comes to a former President I think their silence is is actually it's hurting their entire case like you say it's making President Trump stronger this morning because they haven't at least even gone to Congress with information about what what's going on here because this this is this could this could be very unsettling for the country and at the time again you still talk about the impact on the elections but it's also just how people are waking up today and how they feel and and this silence that would be usual for an investigation I don't think works around this kind of when it when it's a former President and it's unprecedented yeah well number one it's a former President who's been investigated by the Department of Justice in a fashion that led to a rebuke by a court against the Department of Justice the whole allegation of Trump Russia fell apart and so the one thing I would say is if the shoe were on the other foot can you imagine this wrapping on Trump's watch where and the Department Justice the FBI raided Hillary Clinton's house that you know the country'd be there'd be riots in the streets so the conservatives you have a right to be suspicious you should demand answers in an inappropriate way but I promise you that Republican members of the Senate we need to raise our voices and make sure that politics and the law are separated nobody's above the law I said that but the law has to be above politics and the track record when it comes to Trump is pretty abysmal I mean if this happened under President Trump and you put the shoe on the other foot I would I would think of potentially an impeachment definitely a special counsel not to investigate Hillary Clinton but to investigate him if this happened under his watch and I agree with you Senator Graham now we I want to take this too because people feel like they're kind of under assault by this administration's idea to double the size of the IRS and add in 87,000 new agents to come after and audit them I mean when you put all this together at the same time people have seen the IRS as you know ACLJ we did all those cases of the Tea Party targeting cases and and now you've got Democrats moving forward legislation to increase that size to come after everyday Americans I mean I think this this again they already felt like they were being targeted as conservatives and we've seen a history of it you increase the size of the IRS and at a time when you're rating a former President's home that they may have been supportive or still supportive of this kind of escalates quickly well yeah I mean what was the lady's name I can't remember the IRS person yeah okay so here's what the problem is conservatives we have found evidence the IRS used the powers to go after people they didn't like their you know liberal elements of IRS were using the power to go after people they didn't like well Nixon did that we are liberal or conservative we shouldn't be using the IRS as a political tool well given what the FBI did the idea of getting Trump is so in the DNA of people in this country they don't care how you get him they don't care the tools or the techniques you use just get him so every conservative in America is suspicious of the IRS already but 87,000 new IRS employees it would be bigger than the British army there are 81,000 people in the British army are you telling me we're going to create an IRS army I don't believe so so I'm gonna have a rescission package that's appropriation speak for canceling the money sending it to the border patrol and counter-terrorism activities and we'll have a real debate this is not done yet they passed the reconciliation bill but you have to appropriate the money we'll fight it that is great you know we got a lot of questions from folks about what could be done like with Republican victories in November to pull some of this back and to fight back and so Senator Graham has just put that forward about how we fight back against its IRS army to use his own words which which is true final question for you Senator Graham I appreciate you spending time with us on this breaking news day is you know we marked a year from the pullout of Afghanistan the disaster there you're a foreign policy expert you're a national security expert the world also looks at us when we when this is going on domestically and it can make America look pretty weak if it looks chaotic and this is when people like the Chinese the Chinese Communist parties of the world the Russias of the world try to take advantage of these kind of moments of domestic turmoil well that's a really a great point it's not like being on your show and tell your dad I said hey y'all guys are awesome fighting for the constitution let's look at it this way we got the first real land war I guess Bosnia was a war but this is a major effort to rewrite the map of Europe the biggest since World War II we've got Taiwan's being surrounded by Chinese military exercises we've got the Iranians trying to break out and build a bomb we've got al-qaeda leaders staying in guest house at the Taliban and we're doing this 100 days before an election so what I would suggest is that doing something this brazen and this provocative is going to shake confidence in America throughout the world I travel a lot and when we withdrew from Afghanistan every ally began to question us and all of our enemies started licking their chops you'll never convince me that Putin did not get a signal for my withdrawal in Afghanistan he did not do this on Trump's watch ever since Biden withdrew from Afghanistan our standing in the world has been eroded and having an FBI raid on the former President's home when he's working with these people was that really necessary just makes every problem worse Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina great for the ACLJ as always I appreciate you spending this time with us today walking us through this with your expertise how it affects us here at home how it affects us abroad but also what we can do to stop that IRS army which is coming for you folks I mean they're clear about it's coming from middle-class Americans they want to audit and they want because that's the only way to pay for their bill but we let Senator Graham's got a plan to stop that army from being formed when we come back we'll get to start taking your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110 so get those calls in now 1-800-684-3110 have you lost total faith in your U.S. government? It's a sad question to ask. All right welcome back to Secular we're gonna start taking your phone calls in this segment as well at 1-800-684-3110 I wouldn't blame you if you have lost faith in your government institutions completely after last night I mean listen we've had this moments we saw the tea party targeting by the IRS remember the IRS went to the DOJ and FBI and said can we make this criminal so they work very careful together you just heard Lindsey Graham talking about the army of IRS agents that they are trying to create through this legislation 87,000 coming for you so we said the title of the program are you next yes yes it might not be an FBI raid it's going to be an IRS agent so different it'll be you know different for you than maybe for President Trump but they're taking unprecedented action to put down a political movement they disagree with they start with the head of the political movement and try to silence him President Trump he put out an excellent video by the way last night and and so with a statement but along with the video as well I don't know how far away we are from a potential announcement but it seems like that video would be the pre-announcement video and it may have this may have made his announcement quicker but it is okay to not agree with your your government on everything we live in the United States of America now I'm going to walk through people to how this happened and then take your phone calls so bring it in Andy accountable has law enforcement background as a former US attorney so Andy we know that there's these grand juries going on around the country this one we are told is about documents about National Archives document pieces of paper and while President Trump and his post administration team were working with those law enforcement agencies and returning back documents to the National Archives they had to have put forward in their request to get this to raid warrant that there was no way they could get it without doing a raid I mean they have to also go to a judge and say this is the only way we could get this information that's right Jordan and in addition to which you've got to also allege in order to get a search warrant before a US district judge or a magistrate judge that a law is being violated presumably here title 18 section 2071 about custody of books records and documents belonging to the government you've got to do a lot of things to get a search warrant first of all you've got to show probable cause that a crime has been or is being committed and that the fruits and instrumentalities of that crime are being concealed somewhere in some specific place you can't do a general search warrant you've got to do a specific search warrant saying it is in this place it is in this room of this place it is in this drawer of this place I've had to do search warrants that even say that it has got to be in a particular area of a house or an office the other thing is Jordan that the probable cause has to be fresh you can't talk about stuff that's old and stale it was there a week ago it was there a month ago maybe that's too long and too stale the magistrate judge also then or district judge issues a warrant based upon what the affiant the person who swears to the facts of that warrant are those could be false we know in the carter page situation that the FBI lied to the to the court about what was going on and it's also true that the very same judge who issued the warrant and who does it on the good faith of the affiant of the swear to the warrant can be the same judge before whom a motion to suppress that material that is throw it out can be heard so that same judge who issues the warrant may be the same judge who decides later on that there was a probable cause and that it was improperly issued issue this they were willing to go to the FISA court and lie so if they're willing to go to the FISA court put that in jeopardy I've already called for that to be dismantled for a long time because of their abuse of the FISA court system to target Americans which is not why it was created but they were willing to lie there and they get their slaps on the wrist so why wouldn't they be willing to I mean that's the thing with all of the problem this is the issue with law enforcement and the distrust is how can you have faith in a system that has been broken so many times in front of us that has been exposed as having you know as Jim Jordan talked about that he's got in his letter he's got whistleblowers coming from the FBI saying they're purging out conservatives they are patting the numbers on domestic violence they're making up crimes that don't exist I want to go to your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110 you should be outraged you should be angry today and now how what do you put with that angle let's go to the phones Ronald in South Carolina online for hey Ronald hey how are you doing truly thank you for taking my call and I enjoyed what Lindsey Graham said he's from my state along with Senator Scott and my statement is is this that in spite of all that is coming to light and yet we have so many people whose eyes are still shut to the truth that is coming in and to the social experimentation that the Democrats putting forth and it's coming to the point to where now I try to reason with them and give them that benefit it's past that point Ronald this is like it's political war okay when you start using the FBI to come after former Presidents in an unprecedented way this is unprecedented never happened before it's political war you can't reason with the other side they've got the power and they think that this power is not going to backfire on them now I think the big question is I kind of agree with Senator Graham I think last night President Trump was strong he woke up stronger this morning because more Americans who who support him in the past who may have even been ready to move on to a different candidate in the future are saying you know what enough we need to put him back as a statement to Washington DC and I mean that's that's I think where why the fact that they're not explaining any of this still you know this morning this afternoon not telling the American people who they know have a serious distrust I think is what Ronald's going to there's no reasoning with them be ready for war and I think that's absolutely right you know several hours have passed the night has gone by we don't even have a copy of the ad that I haven't seen a copy of the search warrant I don't ever think we'll get a copy of the affidavit until a motion to suppress is filed if it ever is but there is not of no action and no voice from Washington DC about what this is about is this a search warrant that the FBI got because they were arguing with the archives department over what documents should be turned over and you're making this into a federal crime and you're attacking a former President's house and it is an attack raiding his house going through his safe going through his private papers never before done in history never done to Hillary Clinton never done to anybody else who has been holding papers and documents and property of the United States this is not a prosecution this is as I heard someone say a persecution of a person who you've got a political will to shatter continued witch hunt I mean like I said two failed impeachments this failed special counsel investigation a questionable election it's just true when people don't have faith in the election system and that's true there's about 30 percent of the country that still does it and and yet still you can't give it up you have to try and destroy this individual and his family and we're hearing from people like former governor Andrew Cuomo I wouldn't usually quote him but this is tweet DOJ must immediately explain the reason for its raid and it must be more than a search for inconsequential archives or be viewed as a political tactic and undermine any future credible investigation and legitimacy of the January 6 investigation these are democrats Andrew Yang I'm no Trump fan I want him as far I want him as far away from the white house as possible but a fundamental part of his appeal has been that it's him against a corrupt government this raid strengthens that case because it is for millions of Americans who will see this as unjust persecution it is unjust persecution it's political warfare at its worst using law enforcement to play politics is not acceptable the united states that's what we are we get used to in the third world in dictatorships in banana republics we'll be right back second half hour at the american center for law and justice we're engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for a limited time you can participate in the aclj's matching challenge for every dollar you donate it will be matched a ten dollar gift becomes twenty dollars a fifty dollar gift becomes one hundred you can make a difference in the work we do protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms that are most important to you and your family give a gift today online at aclj.org we will fight for the right keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is secular and now your host jordan secular political war are you prepared because you know they're going to do everything they can to try and take out maybe your chosen your preferred candidate in the next Presidential election that's donald trump with the raid on his home they're going to come after you with their 87 000 as lindsey graham called it irs army which is bigger than the uk's military 87 000 new agents to knock on your door to audit you to pay for their green new deal and you know that's what thanks joe mansion you really think he's a moderate folks uh thanks christian cinema do you think they're moderates republicans better get out the vote in november in a serious way it better be a landslide because they are under attack we are under attack our nation's institutions are being turned against us and we've seen it but now if they will go to the former President united states they will have no problem again coming after you because they've made that calculation they've crossed that rubicon if you will they crossed that line and what happens next again you can that would be speculation but let me tell you something if they can have the former President arrested they would okay they may know i think they've said that pretty publicly that's what they want to see and they want him somehow barred from running which by the way i'm not sure that any legislation can do even though people are citing it because the constitution lays out uh the what the requirements for running for office and uh not not legislation so unless they admit the constitution i think there's a fight there so that's one thing but that that's moving down the road listen to senator marshall blackburn she tweeted out bill and hillary clinton took 28 000 worth of furnishings that was back in the 90s from the white house obama violated the Presidential records act why'd the fbi not raid their houses this is a political witch hunt to take down President trump and added that the partisan federal prosecutions will only increase now that democrats just voted to give the irs 87 000 more agents mike pompeo is our senior counsel of global affairs at the aclj you know rick reynolds coming up next on the broadcast and when he takes off his aclj hat he also runs the the the super PAC link to President trump so he is directly involved in the politics of this mike pompeo tweeted out you think those 87 000 new irs agents are just for show look at what the doj did last night to President trump while it slow rolls and looks the other way on hunter biden if they will go after a former President they will go after you for goodness sakes folks he's that former head of the cia made that statement if they will go after the former President they will go after you that's not jordan secular that's former cia director and secretary of state mike pompeo kevin mccarthy i've seen enough the doj has reached an intolerable state of weaponized politicization when republicans take back the house we will conduct immediate oversight of this department follow the facts and leave no stone unturned attorney general garland preserve your documents and clear your calendar and that's no idle threat because if they take back the house they will be in charge of the committees they will be the ones asking those department heads to testify before them under oath and there will be questions on this so that's another important note for the november elections i want to take one call quickly before we go to the next uh segment let me go to john in minnesota on line five hey john yeah hi guys thank you for this program i can't believe that i agreed with i agree for once with cuomo on anything but i am angry but you know what i think this is the stupidest thing that they could have done for the democrats i think everybody who's got a primary today in some states there are in minnesota we have a primary today to get out and vote voting is a key right now but i think that this is going to turn the tide away from the democratic party this is absolute uh nazism is what it is it is the worst of bad governments you know it's it's what we see in the third world it's what we see in uh dictatorships using the institutions like you use the rule of law put that in quotes to persecute and go and then silence your political opponents to jail them i mean we see it time and time and time again around the world we call it out in the united states but now we've crossed the line where we've done it here so when we criticize the chinese for uh jailing political opponents they say that's what you do in the united states criticize the russians for doing it well that's what you do in the united states be very back with rick rinnell the political persecution of donald j trump has been going on for years with the now fully debunked russia russia russia scam impeachment hoax one impeachment hoax two so much more it just never ends it's the political targeting at the highest level as we call it political warfare i want to go right to rick rinnell he's our senior advisor for foreign policy and national security but rick i take off that aclj hat for a moment you also uh run the pack associated with President trump this to me is the line the line has now been crossed whether it's the 87 000 more agents at the irs and lindsey graham just called him you know an army to come after the american people we've seen the targeting at a at a grassroots level now we have the institutions being used against a former President of the united states look the weaponization of government has been a problem for a while and i think the democrats have completely unleashed it look no further than the raid on on mar-a-lago but also the 87 000 irs agents that are going to come after everyday americans we've seen big tech and big corporations silence dissenting voices and this is the trouble that i see as i travel this country something has happened to the republican party because first and second generation americans are becoming republicans they're becoming conservatives and the reason why is because they are the canaries in the coal mine they have seen fascism and totalitarianism before and they don't like it um we have a problem with generation americans and i would say largely white wealthy liberals who somehow have allowed the systems to teach our children to hate america this is a scary moment and people are rising up just anecdotally i have to say jordan uh people in my life who were either nominally republican or you know people who just didn't get involved in politics have all spoken to me to say wow i'm scared we got to clean this up i'm going to support donald trump yeah i mean i think that in a sense we know their goal their goal is to have donald trump arrested tried and convicted i mean that is the goal of the democrats we know that's been their goal through two impeachments and the special counsel investigation i mean they've been trying and trying even with the january 6 committee now they've got the raid but as you said and i think senator graham kind of echoed the same message i think that it's interesting because that's what peep everybody's hearing and i get those same messages too is that people that may have been on the line about getting involved again or was it too divisive are now a hundred percent behind President trump and i think that this idea is going to be as a statement as americans we need to put him back into the white house i think people see what's at stake right now they see our country sliding away they see homelessness they see the rule of law being trashed they see people being canceled and it's un-american and and people see it and so what they want to see now is the fighter they're realizing that if we don't fight against this it's the slow slide towards socialism and so they know donald trump is the fighter and they've already tried they've thrown everything at them and i would say to conservatives and republicans and independents recognize the fact that donald trump has already been attacked they've tried to impeach him they've tried to ruin his family there's not much left that they can do and he is still standing he is fighting he is still standing he's still fighting he's not backing down i mean this statement in fact i think it encourages him in a sense no one wants this to happen to him no one wants an fbi raid on any of their properties but i think it encourages him to a sense to say you know what i told people make america great again this is when i think the video release was excellent about where we are as a country right now and the and the messaging there about you but we can overcome this we can change this i mean it will take this is the thing right it will and we've talked about this over again but it takes personalities and and styles of leadership like a donald trump to fix these agencies because uh we know he he was the one hillary clinton complained all she would about kobe it was donald trump who got rid of him paid the price for it but i think would be going back into washington dc realizing what draining the swamp uh what it entails how you have to be prepared for them to respond and they're doing everything they can to keep them from doing that uh which would be the trump's second term i think it would be the drain the swamp show and be the major focus because this makes our country look weak this makes us look ridiculous rick to to our enemies and adversaries for sure and i think you know one of the reasons why President trump travels the country to do all these rallies and we see massive big rallies is to empower people is to have uh people who are listening to the aclj radio show right now understand that if you are just listening and hoping somebody else does something that you are uh part of the problem to be honest you've got to get uh equipped you've got to get informed and you've got to speak up some people might have to run for school board some people have to write bigger checks some people have to raise their voice on social media but gone is the day that you get to just sit and listen and and turn the radio off and say gosh i hope somebody's doing something about this you have to do this i i ask everybody who's listening to our voice what are you doing today to save your country because we must all fight back and that's what donald trump taught us as the leader he taught us fight back and if i can just say one little thing is yesterday i filed a defamation lawsuit against a woman named olivia troia who literally took to social media and said that um i rick ronell tried to get mike pence to go to a white supremacist event and it was so cutting and i i see a lot of ugliness and attack criticism and and you know false uh criticisms attacked on me but this one was just crossing the line because she was inside the trump administration and has now become a never trumper but i filed in virginia uh court a defamation lawsuit against her and i think i did this because donald trump taught me to fight back yeah i mean this is the kind of new way of operating say rick is people would say oh he's litigious and we've been attorneys for the President uh before and throughout the the special counsel investigation the first impeachment but the fact is when you become at the at this level and you the attacks come at you the way they do you have to fight back and every every resource you have so whether that's filing the lawsuit whether it's the politics and getting out the vote i mean this has got to be the wake-up call for republicans one is you know we've gone through going through the primary process as that finishes up we have to come back together and unite too i mean that's a very important part the democrats would love to keep us divided and say well my candidate didn't win so i'm not i don't really want to get out there vote this should be the wake-up call to say we've got to take back congress and we've got to again be prepared in 2024 for all-out war politically there's no question about it and i i sense it already that people see what's happening and and yesterday just as yet another example it's not the first we've seen it over the last year people have been outraged but i'm really encouraged i'm somebody who looks at life and and understands that the glass is always half full because we are americans and so i'm encouraged that so many people see this we just now got to get into the phase where we fight back yeah i mean that's i agree rick and i appreciate you joining us this is the point is that uh more people need to join the cause there's a way to fight back rick politically you don't you know we don't have to go to war literally because we have the ability to vote and if we have if we come out and clear if we come out in big numbers we win and and they can't mess with it it's a clear we can we can get the numbers we got to get united and i think that again this might be bizarrely in some ways to me it feels like maybe that uniting moment just occurred yeah and i would say to people who are listening is that i believe in the aclj i believe that this is a great organization that knows how to equip people and fight so if you're wondering what you can do realize that we have an amazing team that's that's on watch and when we see something that crosses the line we file a lawsuit and we take them to court we don't just do a pr battle we don't just try to rough them up on twitter what we try to do is stop them through the legal process through the rule of law so join aclj go to aclj.org and and help us because we are here on watch trying to find the fights rick i appreciate it as always your insight i mean this is a former acting director of national intelligence form ambassador to germany but he understands the politics too of this and the political warfare going on in our country we're going to continue to take your calls we come back for the break in fact that's we're going to mostly do in the final segment of the broadcast at 1-800-684-3110 i might be able to get one of these in right now steven in massachusetts on line one hey steven hi thank you jordan for taking my call and all the work that you're doing um i'm asking what kind of legal recourse does President trump have i was going to go to any of this very difficult i mean you'd have to prove a case that this that you had the bad actors done and you're not going to know that for a long time no there is no recourse here look the government has the whip hand has the other upper hand they say we went we went before a judge we went before a magistrate we swore that these were the facts the magistrate believed us there was probable cause we ruined this man's house we've got a bunch of documents that we're battling over to the archives there is this is the danger of big government folks this is the danger of a rampant fbi in beast mode you don't have recourse you don't want to hear that but i'm telling it to you it's no surprise all this is coming out within a matter of days the beast mode irs army of 87 000 new ages to come for you the fbi coming for donald trump and the doj the entire weight of the federal government that basically is when you include the doj and fbi on this we got to be ready to fight this fight fight in a smart way the voting booth now you've got to do it you got to get your friends and family to do it and you can't forget what they have done they crossed this line let's keep reminding them of that through voting through speaking out and three and uniting behind our conservative make american first views we'll be right back but there's a lot to say here right now we've only got an hour broadcast and i want you to be able to speak out and ask your questions as well i believe that it's this has crossed the line where it's it's political war uh when people say you know at the ballot box oh i don't know if i trust the system you better go vote we better overwhelm the system to the point where it's so clear that republicans and conservatives won these midterm elections that there can be no question who won each each election or most and then again i think that this is if donald trump decides to run i think you know this would be the biggest statement back to the swamp you could make is putting him back in the white house i mean there's no greater statement they want to arrest this man i mean that it's been their goal they wanted him impeached twice even once he was already at office and they tried to have a special they had a special prosecutor going after him special counsel going after him uh trying to get criminal charges against him i mean you see the show this is what they want are you are you gonna let that happen we're gonna take your calls 1-800-684-3110 let's go to rick in georgia online too hey rick hey good afternoon thanks for taking my call um i called with two statements or questions one you've kind of addressed them but maybe you want to hit them again but the first one was uh what we're supposed to do as citizens of course we're going to vote or i hope but uh i will but um and then secondly like the department of justice and the fbi they're boy if there's not laws there needs to be laws that they they have to answer just doing things like this that are unjust and corrupt so just wanted to throw that out reform completely i think you know i i agree with senator graham that there's frontline agents who put their life on the line to do good work but less and less do i believe because i also know that jim jordan said that the good ones are being purged so i don't know how much longer that lasts even like where we just say oh it's not just the it's not the agents it's it's washington dc because i think they've corrupted the entire system and it and it it's it's again the irs bad enough you corrupt the fbi and doj to this level you've given almost all power up so i think the number one thing we can do it's not just vote it's bumper stickers yard signs friends and family being proud of who you vote for not being ashamed that you're a trump supporter or that you support a maga candidate or that you vote republican you tell your friends and family you speak up about it you're willing to do that it takes that it takes more than just your vote it takes a movement to fight back 1-800-684-3110 back to the phones we go sharon in california online three hey sharon hi thank you for taking my call um my concern is that when you get a certain political party in office and they usurp that authority and they pass legislation like this even when or if the republicans take back the house and the senate will they have the political will and determination to overturn it or can they overturn this legislation and keep the three-letter alphabet unelected unaccountable offices in check yeah i think listen where lindsey graham is right is the appropriations they can pass the idea then you have to actually give the funds and so what he is hoping is republicans will take back majorities and they can withhold those funds thus the irs will not be able to hire 87 000 new agents though you've authorized the hiring you then have to appropriate the funds i think annie that's senator graham has already got a way to tackle it i mean it's a way to tackle it without take before taking back the white house but that means taking the house and senate that's right it's vital to take back the house where all appropriations and revenue-raising measures start under the constitution got to start in the house and take the house and take their money away if they don't have the money they can't do the nefarious things that they're out to do they can't pay these people there's no money there's no appropriation the critical thing is to vote vote as jordan said vote your conscience vote what is american put the yard signs put the stickers out tell your friends do the things that the american system is designed to do and the ultimate weapon that you have is the ballot box let me go back to the phones jim in montana on line five hey jim hey how you doing thank you so much listen one of the points that that you've kind of touched on that that is very troubling to me is i was in public service for 31 years and and the the agents that went into this and did this basically going this ain't right but we're going to do it we're going to do whatever our boss says this is a problem that is occurring in the military like like is was touched on they're kicking out the good people they're they're taking the these new irs agents that they are going to hand that they're going to hire through this new bill that they just passed are all going to be nefarious people they're going to be going against us and our constitution because we all swear to take an oath against or for the constitution but they don't care about that but they don't care about that anymore this is much deeper than we know i i think where you go is like jim jordan said there's a purge going on at these agencies so while there's still a lot of good people on the front lines that that risked their lives doing actual law enforcement work there's a lot of bad act it's not all just out of the seventh floor this also involves the entire doj the entire fbi we've seen it happen at the irs and i would actually say i think that where i only where i differ is they think they are upholding the constitution of their mind this is their mind that's why i say it's a political war you cannot convince them you can't reason you just have to beat them politically you have to beat them at the ballot box and then their viewpoints don't matter and they don't have control of the doj and the fbi and they can't just go around you know uh raid former President's home in an unprecedented way without listen most investigation they wouldn't explain they wouldn't come out but come on like lindsey graham said this is not like a normal uh raid criminal raid and so when you have half the country saying whoa maybe we shouldn't give you the authority anymore and it makes our country look absurd to the world i don't want to be having to act this way or talk feel this way uh because you see the rest of the world they go ha ha ha this is exactly what we like to see in america distrust of their institutions doesn't take any russian disinformation it just takes uh jim coby's andrew mccabe's and their colleagues back to the phones uh we'll go 1-800-684-3110 uh let's go to uh jack in pennsylvania first on line six hey jack jack you there uh material that they took out that you're breaking up jack let me go to pam in pennsylvania online one final call of the day hey thanks for taking my call hey i'm wondering if you know this is turning into the kgb um i'm so afraid now with with all of these um you know irs agents being um hired are they going to specifically go after trump supporters and small businesses that support uh the republican party i mean if you go by history yes unfortunately yes if you go by recent history the irs will will use their new power to politically target so they'll come after again the small business owner in red states they'll come and so nine out of ten times that's going to be then a more conservative voter and and again they're coming after middle-class voters that's republican voters that could that could be you know that's that's who is the backbone of the republican party working americans so yeah i mean because they have a history of it i wouldn't just say yeah the irs is going to do that if i didn't actually worked on those cases where they were doing it can we see the content of your prayer we're going to keep your application uh for two or three years we're not going to deny it we're not going to approve it we're going to ask you for can we get access to your website not just what is your website but back in so we can see everything can we get the uh list of all their speeches that you've had and content of those speeches that we've already been through this now they've raided the former President's home as mike pompeo said if they will do that you're next we're next unless we respond take action join us in the aclj we respond as rick renell is talking about we don't just talk about these issues we fight back aclj.org donate today let's fight for our country folks