BREAKING: Hegseth Reveals the Truth

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Defense Secretary Hagseth reveals the truth about Operation Midnight Hammer. Keeping you informed and engaged. Now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.

Welcome to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you. And look, we got no guests on stage. Just me and Will. So guess who's going to be our guest?

Hopefully you. So give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. I'm going to try to take as many calls as I possibly can over the next hour. Not just wait until specific segments, because we do have some breaking news to cover. Of course, we are still talking about the conversation, the Pentagon. They went back and forth.

And what's going on, Will? Because Pete Hagseth says, hey, he pretty much came out and made a moment revealing really what happened about Operation Midnight Hammer. Revealing, look, they're having to really go out of their way now to try to debunk claims that this did not work.

Right. However, that is only because the press has done this to them and people who just want to really devalue President Trump and the Trump administration. That's their whole plan. If their whole plan is that, well, it's sad that we have to have a point where Pete Hagseth has to go out on the defense of this over and over, day after day. Yeah, it's hard to declare victory and talk about the victory when the media is so quick to undermine it before the dust has even settled on Fordow. So what we're seeing here now is both General Cain, as well as Pete Hagseth, the secretary of defense, pushing back, doing a press conference, an early morning press conference. Not normal for what you see out of the Pentagon, but pushing back on these claims and these leaks. They're also pointing to the CIA and the director of national intelligence that it's now their role to gather the intelligence of what the successes were in the Fordow strike. But they also have to go forward and show, unfortunately, how successful things were, like the conversion plant, where without that, they can't turn the uranium gas into uranium metal to put on a warhead.

And these things that keep being brought up and up and up by this fake news media trying to declare a failure instead of a victory. I think it's an opportunity to hear from Pete Hagseth himself. Let's go and listen to this. It's a bit of a long bite, but again, I always make sure you have full context of what's going on.

Here's Pete. There's been a lot of discussion about what happened and what didn't happen. Step back for a second. Because of decisive military action, President Trump created the conditions to end the war, decimating, choose your word, obliterating, destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities. I want to read some of the assessments that have been provided, because whether it's fake news CNN, MSNBC, or the New York Times, there's been fawning coverage of a preliminary assessment. I've had a chance to read it. Every outlet has breathlessly reported on a preliminary assessment from DIA.

I'm looking at it right now. Again, it was preliminary a day and a half after the actual strike, when it admits itself in writing that it requires weeks to accumulate the necessary data to make such an assessment. It's preliminary. It points out that it's not been coordinated with the intelligence community at all. There's low confidence in this particular report. There's, it says in the report, there are gaps in the information. It says in the report, multiple linchpin assumptions are what this assessment, a linchpin assumption, you know what that is? That means your entire premise is predicated on a linchpin.

If you're wrong, everything else is wrong. And yet, still, this report acknowledges it's likely severe damage. Again, this is preliminary, but leaked because someone had an agenda to try to muddy the waters and make it look like this historic strike wasn't successful. I hate that Hegseth has to do this. I really do, because when I watched that moment unfold, President Trump came out with Pete by his side, Marco Rubio. And I said, you know what, President Trump picked the right guys for this job. Pete took a lot of heat, unnecessary heat. And look what he was able to do.

Only people with that kind of military expertise who really have been there, know it, could have done something like this. So I want to give some props to Pete Hegseth, but I hate that he has to go out and keep making these statements. Let's move on, folks. 1-800-684-3110. Have your voice heard on the air. We'll be right back.

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And you know what? We consider you all incredibly important to this. We wouldn't be able to do this high quality of a show without you. I do want to quickly take a phone call to hopefully inspire you to call in as well.

So let's go to Larice, who's calling in Texas. You're on the air. Yeah, I just wanted to say that during the Afghanistan withdrawal, there was crickets. Then all of a sudden, we actually hit the target. And then they get negative.

That makes no sense to me. And also, it's really dangerous for military because it pretty much says we can't hit the target. Oh, don't worry about the US. They can't hit any targets. You see what they did in Iran? They didn't hit anything. This is what we want to do because there's no fear of being held accountable.

Larice, 100%, Will's actually got a follow up to that because I've said this. Who does this benefit? It only benefits people who have historically been known. This is not Gaza. This is not some politically motivated where you go, oh, I'm on the one side of the other humanitarian crisis, whatever it is. This is the Iranian government that has been in control since the 70s who have been hurting their own people.

And we all know this. Kamala Harris said the number one threat to America was Iran a few months ago. Okay, this isn't political or partisan. But because there is a Trump administration, it will become political and partisan. And just like you said, Larice, you're on, oh, look at America again.

Our brave soldiers flew from Missouri to Iran, a 19-hour flight, multiple refuels midair, dropped precision strike bombs, and got out of there before anyone even knew they were there. And you're going to try to discredit them? Not on our watch. That's not going to happen here. But that is precisely what the news is doing.

That's right. And just to show how correct that Pete Hegseth was in those attacks on the media, pushing back at their reporting, this is a piece that came out last night. I saw it late at night from the New York Times. Rubio fleshes out Trump's case that Iran nuclear capacity was eliminated. Then here's the sub headline to it.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said U.S. strikes had destroyed a facility that is key to turning highly enriched nuclear fuel into a working bomb. He railed against a less optimistic U.S. intelligence report. Okay, so that's the framing of the article. That's the headline, sub headline. A few paragraphs down, there is this paragraph written by someone at the New York Times who clearly has an agenda to politicize this and make sure that it seems like Trump is a liar and a failure.

Listen to this. By the end of his trip to the Netherlands, Mr. Trump seemed as focused on proving he has obliterated, in quotes, Iran sites as he once was on proving he had the largest inauguration crowd. They are comparing the argument with President Trump, everyone knew, he loved to talk about the inauguration crowd, that that is the same thing as him talking about taking out a existential threat to the United States and Israel, an Iranian nuclear program. They are trying to say that he claiming victory and success is a vanity project for him. They are trying to diminish the work of the U.S. military and the extremely well thought out plan. And we're getting to that in a little bit, too, because General Raising Caine, he talked about how detailed, how long the U.S. military has been studying this and focusing on Fordow. And the New York Times journalist tries to make acute reference to the inauguration crowd argument and turn that as an analogy to the President of the United States saying we have taken out Iran's nuclear capability.

One is a crowd size and the other is national security. When they say these journalists should lose their jobs, how did this get past an editor? Do they think that's funny? Do they think American national security is a hilarious joke?

That these bunker buster bombs went and hit Fordow and they can laugh about it like maybe we aren't that good. You act like these companies can afford editors at this point. I think maybe you're the only one reading it. Well, Logan, I have to read it so I can get enraged by their writing and tell the people. You hate watch or hate read a lot. Well, you know, something like that fires you up in the evening.

All right. Let's go to Michael, who's coming from Florida on Line 4. He's watching on YouTube. Michael, you're on the air. Gentlemen, how sad is the state of affairs for our mainstream media if you can get more straight answers from Mad Magazine than you can CNN? Michael, look, as a former subscriber to Mad Magazine, I'm just going to say proud subscriber. I think you're right. And of course, Mad, sadly, has gone away. They are now only running best of us. But I see your point, Michael.

That's just my nerdiness. It is true that I think that is why people have turned to alt media, including comedians, by the way, Joe Rogan, all of these names, because weirdly, you feel like you can get more unbiased news from the top comic voices in the country than you can from CNN, from MSNBC. And look, sometimes I'll say even with Vox, look, all of them, you can get more actual what people are thinking through independent productions. That's what we do here.

We are fully independent. Sure, we're on a lot of radio stations, your local markets were on the Salem News Channel, but none of them are telling us what to do and what to say. We don't play by those rules.

Sure, there's FCC rules. But other than that, which we wouldn't violate anyway. Other than that, though, we can give you our opinions, whether you like them or not. That's why I love this show.

That's why I love what we do here at the ACLJ. It's not about parroting a party line. It's not about parroting some sort of political bias. I know I've made our audience mad with my points of view or when I feel that I'm going to be honest with you.

If I feel like a case is not going to go anywhere, I feel like something is not worth the time of America. But that's why you have independent journalism. That's why you have independent news shows. That's why you have shows like ours that are completely independent and organizations like ours, because we're able to do that.

And you're right. More people are paying attention to that and understanding it than our CNN. More people watch our show than watch a lot of CNN. We just crossed over half a million subs. That's just subs on YouTube. OK, we're on some other platforms where it's growing also hundreds of thousands, millions. And millions watch just on YouTube a week. Millions.

They would kill for those numbers. I think we should listen to what General Cain said at this presser as well. General Raisin Cain. I do love it.

I love the nickname. But this is him talking about when they targeted Fordow, it wasn't like they just decided, OK, let's try a bunker buster bomb and go for it. Here's how long an individual and a team of two were studying this site and how much they knew about it because of a very hardworking American at the Defense Threat Reduction Agency. So this is General Cain talking about an unnamed individual for their safety.

Let's listen to by two. In 2009, a Defense Threat Reduction Agency officer was brought into a vault at an undisclosed location and briefed on something going on in Iran. For security purposes, I'm not going to share his name. He was shown some photos and some highly classified intelligence of what looked like a major construction project in the mountains of Iran. He was tasked to study this facility, work with the intelligence community to understand it, and he was soon joined by an additional teammate.

For more than 15 years, this officer and his teammate lived and breathed this single target, Fordow, a critical element of Iran's covert nuclear weapons program. He studied the geology. He watched the Iranians dig it out. He watched the construction, the weather, the discard material, the geology, the construction materials, where the materials came from. He looked at the vent shaft, the exhaust shaft, the electrical systems, the environmental control systems, every nook, every crater, every piece of equipment going in and every piece of equipment going out. And that is what led to the development of the bunker busting bomb, because he could tell based off the soil that was coming out, how far deep in that mountain it was, based off the ventilation equipment, everything. This is an individual, an American, a brave American, that couldn't talk about this with his family. He worked with one other person on this for 15 years and knew everything there is to know about this secret site and how to attack it.

And we developed the weapons, and that's exactly what the President of the United States deployed on that site just a few days ago. And the media is going to sit here and try to lecture the world that maybe we're not that effective and only do one thing, help out the Ayatollahs with their PR campaign. Hey, we're going to take some more calls coming up, and also in the next segment, we're going to talk about a big victory coming out of the United States Supreme Court, how the ACLJ was involved, and how you can react as well by always supporting the work, and not just financially. Go to our website, sign petitions, get involved. But if you're on hold right now, Tim, Ronald, Mike, Michael, Daniel, a lot of men today, give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. Stay on hold. We're going to get to you. I want to take as many calls as I can. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow.

Welcome back to Sekulow. As I said, we're going to continue taking phone calls as well, and I do want to tell you a big update in the ACLJ world because, look, there's always news happening, and I want to make sure you get to hear about it. But, Will, I know we want to take a call because right now, full bank of calls.

So that's what I got to do, Will. I just got to say, hey, you don't have to stay on hold for an hour today. Yeah.

And they call in. Right. So maybe let's go to, let's see here, you want to go to number five, Mike?

Yeah. Mike in the great state of Tennessee, my favorite Sirius XM listener. Go ahead, Mike. Hey, guys, appreciate all that you do, and I'm very thankful for our leadership of our country for what they're willing to do to save the United States, to protect Israel, to save the world. But what I do not appreciate is the fact, the amount of time and energy that they have to put into defending and refuting the false narrative out there. And I think it's time we just move on. Once we've been told what's going on, it's been validated, move on. We've got other things to do. I 100 percent agree with you, Mike, which is this is a waste of time to keep going back over this. The people who are supporting you are going to support you and the people that aren't, you're not going to be able to turn them the other way. Of course, I hope that and what I mean by that, I mean the media. I don't mean that to be human beings because, look, there's a reason I always say we're not behind a paywall because I want you to share this with your friends.

I want them to see the truth, the hypocrisy, everything that's going on. But that being said, I agree with you. What more can be said? What more needs to be said? President Trump even doesn't need to keep going and saying it was a massive success, a massive success. I believe you. I am just honored that you would actually do this and would attempt something this strong that a lot of Presidents have said they were going to do and never actually done. And as of right now, we've had two days of relatively quiet.

That's right. And what we also are hearing is, once again, the President was at a NATO summit where he received commitments from the governments there that were meeting with him, other NATO governments that are historic. They're agreeing to put 5 percent of their GDP into NATO. That is something that has been needed for a long time, that Rick Grenell has come on here and talked about how they're not paying their fair share, that the United States is paying for the national defense of most of Europe through NATO and that they're not paying their fair share. President Trump yesterday was able to secure an agreement from almost every country, I think, except for Spain, which Spain's economy, not great, but they've gotten 5 percent commitments from every NATO government except for Spain. That's not going to be a tough story. That should be what the press is like.

How did this happen? Because everyone's been talking about for generations, why can't NATO pay more? But no, instead, they're talking about what they want to be, scandal. They want it to be a scandal that we didn't effectively take out nuclear sites in Iran. This isn't some bill that got quashed by your own party.

This isn't that. This is American national security at stake. You know, Ronald and George has got a great comment, and I think he's right because it shows you how the narrative moves. Ronald, I want you to tell us what you told the phone screener because I think this is a very relevant piece of information. Again, Ronald, another great state of Georgia, my original home state, listening on the radio. You're on the air.

Love you guys. Hey, I was just thinking the news media was telling everybody that the Iranians weren't that far along in their nuclear program. And now that Trump has gone and knocked them out, mopped them up, they want to say, oh, he didn't really get their nuclear program. It's still intact. So they're talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Thank you, and y'all have a great day. Ronald, of course, and as always, you're 100% right, which is what was the narrative leading up into this, which is we don't even know why President Trump thinks they have enough uranium to do this. And now you're right that the answer is, oh, well, we weren't strong enough to take it all out. Well, and that's precisely the point. If they were at least intellectually honest, their reporting would be like, you know, this didn't matter anyways.

It was a waste of bombs, waste of putting our people in harm's way. Instead, they're running with a leaked thing that says I didn't really push it back that far based off initial assessments. But they're not intellectually honest. They have Trump derangement syndrome, which allows them to not think clearly enough to even get their story right. Like they could easily just mock it by saying, well, it was what was the point?

There was nothing there to begin with. But no, they get tricked by their own deceit by thinking that this is a great story we can run with. We can make the President look really bad, not successful. And they forget what they were talking about just a few days ago that why would he strike that? They don't even have what he says they have.

It's ridiculous. Fired up, Logan. Ronald, thank you for calling. We appreciate it. Look, this first half hour flew by, but I want you to understand some of the work the ACLJ is doing.

Will, can you do it in three minutes or do you want to hold it? I think I can. So we had a big victory out of the Supreme Court today. This was a case. It was Medina versus Planned Parenthood. This is where the state of South Carolina was saying that Medicaid dollars would not go to Planned Parenthood. Effectively, they were defunding Planned Parenthood at the state level, saying our citizens don't want their taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood. So we're stopping that Planned Parenthood sued. It went all the way up to the Supreme Court and in a six three decision, which the ACLJ filed in our brief, which was tracking very closely with what the decision of the court brought forward, is they were trying to argue that they had the right to receive Medicaid dollars, that you couldn't sever that.

You couldn't choose to not fund them. The Supreme Court overturned that in the way it was very technical, as the court does. They decided Planned Parenthood doesn't have the right to sue the state to get Medicaid funding back, effectively paving the way for states to follow South Carolina's lead and stop giving Medicaid dollars to abortion clinics. It's for health care, not for what Planned Parenthood and other clinics do. And I think this is a wonderful decision by the Supreme Court, authored by Neil Gorsuch, six to three, with the three liberal members of the court dissenting. And I think it really is a powerful day, not just even for this, but at the fact that states can not fund things instead of being forced by these interest groups to give them your taxpayer dollars. I don't know about life, but of course, life is very important to us here at the ACLJ, but the ramifications of this are well beyond, but we do like striking some blows to Planned Parenthood. This is another one, and we're going to be taking them on again directly in another state to prevent them from striking down even one of Missouri's pro-life laws.

They want to take down all of them. And today, though, was a big day, whether that is for life or even for just the states being able to decide what they want to do. The fight continues on, and I'm going to encourage you right now as we head into the second half hour of the broadcast, some of you lose this here. And I have to say, if you do lose this, if you're listening on your local radio station and they don't carry the full hour, number one, they should.

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1-800-684-3110. Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever, this is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. We have a second half hour coming up.

We have a full bank of calls right now. Of course, we are going to reset, talk a little bit about what's going on. Sadly, Pete Hexxith has had to come out again and say, look, the strikes were effective. President Trump had to come out and say, look, quit listening to your legacy medias, to your CNNs, to your New York Times. They're only trying to mislead you because, oh, they say we only knocked back the new capabilities by a few months. We had a great call coming in from Georgia that said, hey, I thought before this, the legacy media was saying they weren't even close to having it. They're having the ability to do this. And now they're saying we didn't hit them hard enough. Which one is it?

And that's why it's important to have voices like ours out there. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Stay on hold, Tim, Daniel, Candy, Bruce. Two lines actually open. Someone dropped off. So give us a call right now.

That's right. And when you look at what is happening, as Logan mentioned, with the media, they are trying to pick apart in real time. They started as soon as this attack happened. They're trying to pick apart whether or not the bombing of nuclear sites was successful.

And it's not just, like, here's some questions. They're relying on leaks of documents, top secret documents. And in no way are you hearing people in mainstream media even bringing up, like, whoever leaked this document is detrimental to the national security of the United States and probably needs to be in jail. Because that's what they were arguing against President Trump when he retained materials from his presidency.

And when you're the President, you do have the power to declassify. But they are running. They love to run with the story of a leaker that comes from a highly classified document.

Why is that? Why are they so willing to take that material, something that is right in the aftermath when there's a fragile ceasefire, when Iran retaliated by sending ballistic missiles at our troops, and they're running with stories that could embolden the regime by saying, maybe we didn't do that good of a job. Maybe President Trump is obsessed with obliterating their nuclear facilities, kind of like he was obsessed with the size of his inauguration crowd. They're trying to say that he's lying and that Pete Hegseth is lying and that Marco Rubio is lying when they're giving you the facts. They're being so transparent about this. They were showing videos of how these bunker buster bombs work and talking about the 15-year work at the Defense Threat Reduction Agency. When have you heard that much detail about a singular bombing mission ever? And yet the media is still sitting there trying to humiliate not just the President, not just the cabinet, but even the men and women in uniform that flew those missions. And now speaking out of both sides of their mouth, we just got a report from the New York Times that came out just less than an hour ago, and their headline is, centrifuges at Fordow no longer operational, you and a nuke watchdog headsets. Wait a second.

Wait just a second, Logan. French radio said there was no escaping significant damage. Again, so now the New York Times, after saying, not enough, now they're saying, oh, maybe there was a lot.

They're no longer operational. The fact that they wait and were like, okay, you know who is the one voice we can trust on this? Not the military officers or the secretary of defense.

It's the nuclear watchdog at the UN who has not been given a ton of access under the JCPOA like they were supposed to because that's who President Obama put all his trust in. He's like, I've seen the pictures, okay guys? We've seen the pictures.

They ain't operational no more. Okay. All right, when we get back, we're going to take some phone calls.

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Go to ACLJ.org. We'll be back with your phone calls, questions, and so much more in just a moment. Welcome back to Secula. We do have some other news we're going to cover here before we start taking all the calls. And we have so many lined up.

It's going to be a packed probably last segment or two here with your calls. But Will, I know you wanted to address a couple of different things. There were topics of interest that are happening around the country right now.

It is the great flamingo resurgence in South Florida. Okay. Maybe that's what we want to talk about. No, that wasn't where I was going. Okay.

Where were you going? Well, there's a vice mayor in one of the cities in LA County. This is just south of Los Angeles that is getting some flak, Logan. You know, the governor of California was saying there was no need for the National Guard. He had everything under control because this wasn't a rebellion. This wasn't under the Insurrection Act, somewhere where he thought that federal law couldn't be carried out, even though we know, we saw, we saw what happened. But this is what a vice mayor posted on social media.

And she since deleted this. But you got to hear what an elected official in California is calling for. And then you tell me if this is a rebellion, an insurrection or something like that, or trying to block the federal law enforcement. Let's go ahead and run by one and see what Cynthia Gonzalez, the vice mayor of this city, had to say. Not for nothing, but I want to know where all the cholos are at in Los Angeles.

18th Street, Florencia. Where's the leadership at? Because you guys are all about territory and this is 18th Street and this is Florencia. You guys tag everything up, claiming hood. And now that your hood's been invaded by the biggest gang there is, there ain't a peep out of you. It's everyone else who's not about the gang life that's out there protesting and speaking up. We're out there fighting our turf, protecting our turf, protecting our people. And like, where you at?

Vinca y aditos, vinca y aditos, todos los chulitos. I'm like, dude, they're running amok all up in your, on your streets. On your streets and in your city.

And peeps. When the big gang guns come in, nothing but like quiet and we're out here, the regular ones that have never been jumped in. Out here calling things out, trying to organize people, trying to do the thing. So don't be trying to claim no block, no nothing. If you're not showing up right now, trying to like help out and organize. I don't want to hear a peep out of you once they're gone trying to claim that this is my block. This was not your block.

You weren't even here helping out. So whoever's the leadership over there, just get your members in order. Well, I've never thought I'd be agreeing with, uh, the LA gangs, uh, where they were like, you know what, this is this in our battle here. Yeah. You know, I don't, I don't think this is really for us right now. This is too organized.

This is too, uh, fancy. It's so crazy that this is coming from a elected official. Right. And what she is saying is gangs fight, fight for your turf, fight against another gang. She wants gang warfare in against the government. How is this, first of all, how is that not a crime? I'm just going to put that out there, encourage organized crime to come out and just say, gangs, we want you to literally fight law enforcement.

I feel like there's some statutes that are being violated there, but just in, in reality, even if it's not criminal, how are you not stepping down and resigning? Now her attorney put out a statement said, no, no, no, she wasn't calling for violence. She was just saying, stand up and show up and be there. She know what all these people look like. Is she that deep into the gang life to where she's like, I'm looking around and I don't see you where yet.

Unbelievable wearing the proper colors. So maybe sending in the national guard. Was the right thing. If the elected officials are calling for gang violence against the government, it gives me more respect for the gangs that they're like, this is not our fight. Yeah, this is not our fight. She's like, you know, it's not about their turf and all that. It's like, yeah, you know what?

They know when to get involved and not get involved. All right. We also wanted to talk about, and look, I don't know how we're going to even segue into this, but well, there's been a lot of talk about alligator Alcatraz that's going on Florida. And I mentioned earlier that, that flamingos are giving Florida a second. Look, I saw that as a headline in the Orlando Sentinel today that flamingos have been going, you know what? We're going to check Florida out again. You know, under DeSantis, we left, we thought we weren't welcome, but we're back.

They're going to try it out. However, alligator Alcatraz is really happening. It's one of those things that you look at a headline and you go, I can't believe this. This is the most Florida thing to possibly exist.

And they're even, it's not even a nickname. That is what the governor, that is what people are referring to this as, which is a detention facility in the middle of the Everglades in Florida, surrounded by alligators and wildlife. So essentially, they can't escape. Now, this also is on a former airport, right? So they think that this could be an option to get people in and out. It was a training airport that was in the middle of the Everglades.

So I think one for training and situations like that, it's able, it's not amongst a lot of things. So when you're doing training flights and all this, you're not putting civilian and stuff at danger, but the Everglades are remote, vast swampland, vast alligator infestation. By placing this center here, which could hold up to 5,000 people, one, there is the thought it has a runway that it wouldn't have to then transport migrants to a different place to then be removed from the country. But as well, it's so remote that no one's going to really be able to escape from it unless they do so at their great peril.

But then also it is convenient to be able to have flights in and out. The name alone is only something that could come out of the Trump administration. I do have to say there's, when I first heard about it, I thought we were going to get a maximum security prison in the Everglades. And this was going to be like some sort of weird Hunger Games situation where it's like, if you can escape, full pardon.

If you can escape, if you can make it through the swamps, you've made it. Okay. And I'm kind of for that. Like there's something about that that's very intriguing. I don't necessarily love that it's a immigration detention facility and we're calling it Alcatraz, our alligator Alcatraz. That feels a little inhumane, a little unkind. So here's my pitch is we do that. We may get a maximum security prison, but like no gates.

Maximum security just because of location. And there's maybe some small fencing. And look, Will and I spent a lot of time around alligators. We've wrestled alligators.

We have. I have spent, I have put myself in danger for the love of these wondrous creatures. Yeah, they're beautiful. They are. They're some of the best things in the world. And look, they're largely kind. I don't want to tell you to mess with them, but you don't hear a lot of negative things coming out of gator's crocodiles. I don't, what?

I don't. First of all, kind is not the word I would use for them. They're just big old dogs that just haven't evolved yet. Well, yes. Right.

It's called doggy dog. It's not gator-y human. It doesn't happen that much.

Look at the facts. It doesn't happen all that much. But the fear of them because they are scary beasts.

You have to have a good feel. You have to have, you know, a healthy, healthy fear of them. They get a run zigzag, which apparently is not true.

I've heard it's not true. You just got to run fast. That's how you get away from a alligator. Look, we're joking around here, but these are the real things that are happening in this country. And whether that is what's going on in New York City as they've started to look at new mayor options or whether that is going on in Florida, where you are building an alligator Alcatraz, the world is at a very, very interesting spot.

And our phone lines are completely jammed, which I love. And I wish we had some open so we could hear more about people's thoughts on alligator Alcatraz. So if you want to follow up your comments with more comments, Tim, Daniel, Deacon, Candy, Rick, Bruce, we will be taking your calls. Maybe we could take one really quick. We've got a couple of minutes left in this segment. Let's go to Tim. He's been on hold for a long time. Tim, you're on the air.

Hey, how's it going? Good show as usual. I was just wondering, the legacy media, didn't they just meet like last week in Oregon or something? So they're all in lockstep throughout all the networks. I don't know specifically about that.

We can look. There may have been a summit like there's a lot of conventions and things for news media. That's not uncommon. It's not uncommon also that these news outlets do work together. I think you'd probably be surprised how how closely a the mainstream media does have open lines of communication with each other to confirm facts, to share clips, to do all that. I honestly think that that's nefarious. But there's also big conglomerates that own most of your local stations in an area. And that's always a part of it.

Wills or something? Yeah, that's right. I'm not certain about that, but there are summits and meetings and trade shows that happen all the time. But in reality, you can tell the groupthink without even having to look for an actual meeting because they all report the same thing.

The New York Times and CNN are still going with that same angle. They all use the same words, right? It's it's word manipulation.

It's let me put this word in your head. So now you're going to hear it 40 times when they said weird. Remember weird?

I'll move past that. But during the election, how often do we hear weird? J.D. Vance is weird.

Everyone is weird. Of course, that did real well for them. We get back. We're just going to go rock through these calls. Tim, we appreciate you calling in. We got one line open now. Who's going to be the last call and will it be about alligator Alcatraz?

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All right. It's time to take your phone calls. We're going to head all over the country.

We got North Carolina, Washington, D.C., Maryland, Georgia, Nevada, Florida. It sounds like Mambo No. 5. I feel like I just did. I think I did that to the beat of Mambo No. 5.

You did. We got Nevada and Florida and Georgia and Maryland. All right. Let's go ahead and take them.

Let's just go in the order they came in. Daniel's calling from Washington, D.C. Daniel, you're on the air. Oh, thank you for taking my call. You have been talking about the mainstream media lying and lying to the American people all the time. But my question is why, when I go to a federal government building, why do I see CNN on their TV screens?

That's my problem. And when you listen to a lie long enough, you begin to believe it. So our federal workers should not be listening and looking at lies all day long every day while they're at work. Yeah.

President Trump, if you're listening, I think Daniel's got a good point. Yeah. Maybe we can have a ban on CNN on federal TV screens. I don't know. They'd probably sue, say that's against the First Amendment or something.

But, Dan, you bring up a good point, is that they are definitely not PBS, even though we fund it. Yeah. I don't know.

Some children's programing. Just make it lighthearted. Maybe Bluey. People love Bluey. Bluey is universally loved. I don't know.

I'm probably going to get hate in the chat for suggesting that. So, oh, Superbook. Superbook. Oh, yeah.

Just put Superbook on. All right. Everyone. All right.

Daniel, but you know what? I'll tell you a little inside baseball here. Some of those stations do pay to be in those facilities. Right. We have been approached by organizations that want to put you in airports. So those TVs you see on in airports, a lot of times those are placed.

That's not like the guy went up and turned it on. They're paying to be there. That's almost advertisement. So know that. I think you don't know how often you're being advertised to. And sometimes it's like that. It's subtle and it's happening. And I think you're right. Let's go ahead. Continue on. Let's go to Candy in Georgia on YouTube.

Candy, you're on the air. Oh, at first when I saw this on the news, I was upset. But now I'm kind of amused that the Ayatollah Khomeini is saying he got the victory over the U.S. and Israel.

When we wiped out their nuke sakes. And as far as the alligator Alcatraz, I'm kind of amused by that, too. It's like, OK, if they're not going to have guards or limited amounts, how are they going to feed these people?

They're going to drop it. You know what I mean? Candy, that's funny. Coming on your first point, though, the clip of the Ayatollah is saying that it just it feels like it's out of the dictator. You know, like a Sacha Baron Cohen movie, it felt so hilarious to be like, actually, we won. And that was, I think, something that came out over the last couple of days.

But you know what? I actually am shocked about it because, yeah, we did see it. We did see that he claimed he said the fact that the Islamic Republic has acts.

That was a different one. But he said, oh, my congratulations to our dear Iran's victory over the U.S. regime. The U.S. regime entered the war directly because it felt that it didn't. The Zionist regime would be completely destroyed.

It entered the war in an effort. And then he also said that we yes, we slapped them down. He said he delivered a hand slap to America's face with their response. Maybe he's a fan of, you know, the Dana White power slap.

He's watching on a rumble. Logan, here's the most surprising part, because, you know, the legacy media here have been doing such a great job carrying water for the Ayatollah. I'm surprised that wasn't breaking news. Iran declares victory and be like, we have finally heard from the leader of the Ayatollah.

I got it like that. New York Post, though, put this is their headline. Iranian supreme leader crawls out of bunker to ludicrously claim victory over Israel.

Tehran delivered a hand slap to America's face. Pretty funny. All right. Let's move on. Thank you for calling, though.

Let's see. Oh, two of you called in within seconds of each other. So I'm going to not go to you next. I'm going to Bruce first in Florida. Bruce, you're on the air.

Thank you for taking my call. One of the things I wanted to talk about the legacy media. I think they're working very hard to prove themselves right after being proven wrong so many times over the past number of years. And I think that CNN is using this as an opportunity to get back on the map again, since they are being considered to be separated from Discovery Channel due to nonperforming numbers, decoupling the asset. So I think it's a it's a Hail Mary for them. But I think it's going to actually do the opposite. All right.

Thank you so much for your call, Bruce. Think a lot of people do. You look at the numbers. Numbers don't lie. And I saw one person just because numbers are down doesn't mean that the accuracy of the media. No, but it also means your audience is not there and don't trust you.

So they could be like, yeah, just because the numbers aren't as big doesn't mean you are untrustworthy, but also means you've lost your audience. And there's a reason behind that. Continuing on. Rick in Nevada. Rick and Deacon. They were battling it out for one second. I don't know who got first.

Technically Deacon I think is a half second. Well, we already got Rick. Rick in Nevada watching on Rumble.

You're on the air. God bless the United States. God bless President Trump and his brilliance and the brilliance of his D.O.D.

And God bless the A.C.L.J. Now regarding the Supreme Court and its battles with the Planned Parenthood. Why don't the why doesn't the Supreme Court levy a one hundred million dollar fine against the Planned Parenthood and put an end to these frivolous suits once and for all? Well, I mean, they they I don't know if the Supreme Court would even consider it a frivolous suit, even though they said they didn't have the right to sue. It was a little bit untested that whether or not the Medicaid programs could pick and choose which providers.

And they tried to use a portion of the law, the Civil Rights Act or something of that nature, where they were saying that, you know, you can't discriminate against persons who want to use the doctor of their choice and things of that nature. So I like your I like where you're headed because I feel like the American people need to claw back some of the money that has gone to Planned Parenthood, Planned Parenthood over the years. But I don't think that that would be the way to do it. All right. Thank you, Rick, for your call. Continuing on Deacon now in Maryland. Deacon, you're on the air. Thank you.

Go ahead. God bless my military. I have five children. Three of them are on active duty. God bless the military. All right, Deacon, thank you so much for calling in and we appreciate their service and everything that they've done. And we really do. Thank you for calling, because I think it's important time to remember when you have some kind of besmirchment of the military and what's been happening and saying, oh, they didn't quite do as good of a job.

You have three kids who are currently serving and people have to understand the sacrifice that you and your family and other people go through for that. So know how much we appreciate it. It's why we're not just going to sit here and listen to the lies that are coming out about them when you have to.

Again, just the basic, basic facts. Some of our American servicemen and women got on jets, flew from Missouri to Iran, strategically hit facilities, nuke facilities. And then we're able to leave without a shot being fired, without anything happening.

That is because of their courage and because of their bravery and because of their intelligence and know that we appreciate it. Let's go to Janet now, though. North Carolina, last call of the day. Janet, you're on the air. Hi there.

Thank you for taking my call. But my specific question was regarding the Smith Month Modernization Act, regarding print media or mainstream media. I guess it was President Obama that allowed them to deliver propaganda news. So is that something that we need to revisit, look at and change that?

I'm only cutting you off because we're running out of time. I think it's tough to start censoring organizations and start having to go. I don't know if you want the government to get more involved in how news media runs. I think that's a slippery slope.

Because remember, you may like it right now under a President Trump, but you may not like it under whoever's the next Democrat President. And look, there will be in our lifetime. Let's not kid ourselves. It's always kind of going back and forth.

So I think any sort of moves to censor media or to really even just give them some sort of barriers, it's very concerning for me as a free speech activist. With that, though, we've got to wrap up the show. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much for watching. We'll be back tomorrow with a brand new show, ACLJ.org.