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Francis taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick.

You're listening to Matt Slick live. Today's date is February 7th, 2025. Hope you're all having a good day. It's a nice Friday.

And we've got nobody waiting right now. Had some good conversations in the past few days. So maybe, just maybe, if you want to have a conversation, you can give me a call and we can talk. Be fun. Be good.

The number is 877-207-2276. And just give me a call. You have to open lines. Also, if you want to email me, that's easy to do as well.

All you have to do there is just send your email to info at karm dot org, info at karm dot org. And put the subject line radio comments or radio question. One of those will be fine. And then we can get to them. And in fact, I'm going to look at some of those right now. We got some and we have nobody waiting and maybe I'll get to them right away. So I had an interesting conversation last night.

I'm going to go online again on Discord tonight. And I go in there and have these discussions on whatever. And I'd like to just open up a room or go into a room that's already there. And people just have a habit of just saying, okay, Matt, just sit there and answer questions. And I do. And last night, a guy came on and he hates Reformed theology. He hates the idea of God's absolute sovereignty. And he asked a question.

He said, did God choose Adam to sin? And what these guys do, they want to have a question that they can ask in such a way that they want to trap you. If you answer either way, they want to trap you.

Well, you know, okay, I get it. That's what your position is and that's what you want to do. And so I said, well, what do you mean by choosing?

Are you saying choose as in causing or are you choosing as in permitting? And then this big conversation got on. And this guy would not give an inch for anything.

This is one of the most difficult people I've had to work with. And people just hate the sovereignty of God. But later on in the conversation, I said, well, look, is it the case that God works all things after the counsel of his will? I remember correctly, if I do, I hope I do, he said something to the effect of, no, what that means is that he gives us opportunity and conditions.

I wish he could make these choices and things happen or something of this effect. I remember he just twisted the word and wouldn't submit to what the word of God actually says. Now, okay, having said all of that, so let me ask you a question. When you are reading through God's word and you come across something that maybe perturbs you, you don't like, you don't agree to. So let me ask you, do you then reject what it says and just go on or dismiss what it says? Or do you then just say, okay, this is what it says, so this is what I'm going to stick with? Now, that's a question I'm just going to ask because a lot of times I've encountered people who they will submit the word of God to their feelings and what they think something must be.

They'll do that. And I'm really stymied by that kind of a thing. It's really, to me, very interesting why anybody would do something like that. Whenever I come across the word and something occurs that I'm reading it that I don't understand, it doesn't agree with what I think it should say, my conclusion is, okay, I don't understand it and or my belief system is wrong. That's me. That's how I go. And I look in it. I check things out to see if I can get it to make sense in a worldview. And if the worldview doesn't comply or doesn't support that theological aspect that the scriptures are teaching, then I need to change my worldview.

Now, this brings me to another sub point. So I was discussing something with one guy and I asked him, I said, look, I said, what's your worldview? He asked me a question and I said, what's your worldview? And he didn't want to answer. He didn't want to say what his worldview was. Someone else had to come in and tell him he's Armenian.

Okay, thanks. And the guy was so difficult in that he didn't want me to know what position he came from. I said, look, I'm just trying to know what your position is so that I can answer your questions better.

That's all I'm trying to do. And then they fight. What I find interesting is that so many people just don't want to divulge anything. When they have a view and you have a view that they don't like, man, they will turn against you. What does that remind you of?

To me, it reminds me of the Democrats and the left. You know, we'll fight in the streets. We'll fight.

Got in the streets and fight. We're going to fight you because your position disagrees with ours and we're going to get you. And that's what I see. And I don't see much grace from a lot of the people who hate the reformed doctrines of God's greatness.

You know, the doctrines of his sovereignty, that he works all things after the counsel of his will. And then we have to work out what that means and how it means what it means. And a lot of people just don't want to do that. Anyway, this is just some of the issues that I've had to deal with recently online. Now, one of the reasons I continue to do this and go into those rooms is because I believe that by going in there and, you know, just mixing it up with people, what they'll do is they will force me sometimes to articulate certain truths in a way that's different than what I'm accustomed to. And so by doing that, I find that I learn a lot. I learn a lot about what I already know. And it helps. So I go in there to do that.

And also I hear some positions I never heard before. And then that keeps me sharp to try to research everything. So I'm glad that even at my late age, I'm still able to do that. I'm 68 and I can't believe I'm that old. I've been two years from 70. Man, that is up there. And I'm still working 40, 50 hours a week and scrapping with the youngins and stuff like that intellectually for me. It's a lot of interesting stuff. So, yeah, that's right.

Humble Clay in the chat room there on on Rumble. Why would they be ashamed of their position? And they get very uppity. You know, it's really interesting, uppity, because I'm not going to tell you my position. Why not? Because you're here to answer questions.

I said to one guy, am I here only to answer questions or can I ask you what a clarifying question about anything or what? And they get they just get so bent. You know, maybe because when I come into a room, they know some of their idols are going to get tipped over and they immediately want to attack the messenger.

I think that's what it is. And someone someone made a comment. They said, Matt, when you come into a room, says the flies follow. And they go, wait a minute, what are you saying? You know, and you know, so he was I was laughing. I said, I know what you mean. And he says it draws all kinds of people because they don't like stuff. And I go, so it's kind of funny. But at any rate, so there you go. Hey, look, if you want, give me a call.

The number is 877-207-2276. And also, you can email me at info at Karm dot org info at at Karm C a r m dot o r g. That's right. You see, we have we have a nice chat room in rumble. And if you want to join us who are in there, you just go go to rumble dot com. It's like YouTube.

It's just rumble rumble dot com and then forward slash Matt Slick live all one word. And you can get in there and you can see the people that are in there. We have twenty seven in there right now.

It usually goes up to 50, 60 by the half hour. And people come in. We just talk. We just chat during the break.

We do that as well. In fact, I'm rambling here a little bit, but we have stuff on YouTube as well. And you can go to YouTube. I don't know what is how do we find on YouTube?

It's the same. There we go. So I can see I can see who's in there and I can put you can say, like I just said, hi.

The root in the YouTube stuff. So we have five different people for chatting, stuff like that. All right. Hey, I think I want to do is get to an email. Let's see if we can just get to one here.

Let's see. My small group was discussing the word repentance or metanoia. Yeah, that's a Greek word. The main question is, why have the majority of our English Bible translations of the Greek used such a poor word to translate metanoia?

Or is this a trans? Is this translation OK? Now, OK, before I read any more. The meta is change and in Greek and not us is mind.

Not us is mind. And so metanoia. Metanoia is how it's just contracted to be change of mind or attitude. So metanoia means to look forward to a change of mind. It's what he says about our trust in Christ, not just about our trust in Christ.

It can be about all kinds of things. You can turn from doing something dishonest. And even unbelievers can repent of their bad doing doesn't mean that you're trusting Christ. Anyway, where repentance is similar to the incorrect Latin translation penance.

I've never thought that. Anyway, a translation was used that was used to make people pay for their sins. Repentance causes people to look back and feel sorry for their sins. This is the English dictionary meaning as opposed to the biblical meaning. So what I would say is go to the publishing houses and find the translators and see why. See what they're saying.

Why they translated as repentance. So that's what I would do. I don't think that the information that the person's got is entirely accurate. So I am not sure.

Not sure. Anyway, let's get to Jim from Virginia. Jim, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, thank you. It's good to talk with you.

Sure. Listen, I have a question on, you know, when the Bible says that when Adam and Eve sin, that we sin with them. What was your thoughts on that? Does it mean that? They said because we were in their leering that he created all our souls at the same time. What do you think? So this is a doctrine called original sin.

And so we had a break coming up, so I'm going to go slowly. And I'll explain what original sin is, what is going on. Because there's a doctrine here that's necessary to understand called federal headship. So basically Adam represented us.

That's federal headship. And so when he fell in the garden, we fell in him. Some people don't like that. But Romans 5, 19 says through one man's disobedience, the many were made sinners. The many here is a reference to the many in him. And so by his fall, we fell in him and his sin is reckoned to our account. We fell in him and we have a sinful nature and sinfulness attached to us. That relates to the point, like we said, that Christ was a lamb slain for us before the foundation of the world. Because the Lord sees everything in his past, everything in his future. I'm not sure what the last word is because I don't understand you.

Because it's not very clear to me. He's only distinguished between the points where we, because it says in there that we were in his limbs also, if you look that up. That we were what?

You're muffled to me. That we were in his limbs. Loins, loins. Loins, loins. Loins, okay. Yeah, that's mentioned, the loins in that sense are mentioned in Matthew 7, 7 through 10. I mean not Matthew, but Hebrews 7, 7 through 10 about Levi being the loins of his father Abraham. So that's a similar kind of thing. That's really what's going on. We inherited the sinfulness of Adam.

Now some say his sin was actually imputed to us and some say no, we just inherited a sinful nature. And are automatically defective from the very beginning. And either one of those is valid. And when we get back to the break I'll explain why. Okay, hold on, we've got a break. Hey folks, be right back after these messages if you want to give me a call. The number is 877-207-2276. Be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right everyone, welcome back to the show. It's about 20 after the hour and if you want to give me a call the number is 877-207-2276. Jim, are you still there? Yes, I'm still here.

All right. So, I was going to say, I'm going to look at a verse, a very important verse, Romans 5, 19. And what it says is, for as through the one man's disobedience, that's Adam, the many were made sinners. And so this means that the many, those who Adam represented, were made sinners by what Adam did. And so there's a clue to this in the second part of the verse that says even so, through the obedience of the one, that's Jesus, the many will be made righteous. That's the many that Christ represented. And so it says will be made righteous and what we're talking about here is the sense of being made righteous in the eyes of God through the work of Christ that we're justified by faith.

And so that the righteousness of Christ is given to us, Philippians 3, 9. So the same kind of thing in the corollary is that Adam's sin is given to us. So that this is a difficult doctrine and this is basically what we're talking about here, okay? Well, I was thinking on the lines of that foul DNA that, you know, we were damaged with the fall. Adam and Eve failed, so we all died. We all died spiritually when Adam and Eve died spiritually. So I was thinking on the line that because at the moment when the sperm and the meat, that spark of life, that's the soul, you know, when that other part is joined as a human being.

And I was thinking that maybe God created our souls right there, but that was just an out of the box thinking. But I want to say I'm very thankful for you and your stance. You know, when I talk with Democrats, you can't talk with them. The Bible says come to those reasons together.

The Holland Street, my family members. And I say, are you voting? I tell them the Bible tell you how to vote and they don't care. I say you vote all the things against the Lord. They don't care.

Yeah, if they're supposed to be Christians. This country, they are criminals and they don't care about this country. They were trying to make us a one world order, just destroying everything your country has. I've written a lot on the Democratic Party and didn't research on them. And they're the party of slavery. They're the party of Jim Crow laws. They're the party of abortion, the pro-homosexuality. They're the party that was breaking the union way back then. You know, they were breaking our nation at the beginning and they're still the same. I think the Democratic Party itself is wicked.

It is wicked. When you can say killing a child and leaving on the table and abortion and everything. Do you see everything that they established?

All these, everything. And I'm trying to tell people they're supposed to be Christian and they're not listening. It's just like Romans.

I was preaching on Romans Sunday. It's that, you know, you have not changed. You're conformed to this world.

You don't see any change. You don't see the spirit of anything when you're going along with the system. That's exactly right. I'm shocked that any true Christian could be a Democrat and know what a Democrat is.

They could be ignorant. Yes, yes. Well, I'm thankful for you being there. I pretty much agree with you all. I'm not post-trib.

I'm just thinking about that. It's all right. It's all right. I got out of the Air Force and came up here. I was in the independent Baptist Church in Germany and I came praying on a child. And I graduated from Liberty and did some church ministry and things. But it's not a hill to die on. But I like to listen to you. And it's more to the Lord open you up and you learn and grow. So, God bless you so much. God bless you. Thank you. All right. All right. That was a good call.

And I liked it. He said he's not post-trib like I am. That's okay. It's all right.

All right. Since he brought up this issue of the Democrats and things like that, I'm going to talk about it because we've got nobody waiting right now. It's the democratic history of it. They are the ones who supported slavery and the removal of Native American Indians from their land. In 1854, after the Democrats enforced Kansas-Nebraska Act, which allowed the importing of slaves into those territories, the modern Republican Party was formed with the intention to prevent slavery and essentially curb the Democrats. In the Civil War, the Democrats sided with the Confederates in order to retain their right to own slaves. After the slaves were freed, the Democrats blocked many bills aimed at giving the freed slaves more rights, including voting rights. The Democrats passed the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which prevented Chinese immigrants from entering the United States. The Republican Party was birthed during the contentious American presidential election in 1864 in order to better resist the racist fanaticism of the slave-owning Democrats of the American South. That's from subgorca.com, the documentation. So here's a timeline.

So some of it will be repeated, but here we go. In 1830, Democratic President Andrew Jackson creates the Indian Removal Act that forced indigenous people to leave their homeland. It's called the Trail of Tears. In 1857, in a case of Scott v. Sanford, the court ruled that slaves aren't citizens.

They are property. The seven justices voting in favor were Democrats. The two who dissented were Republicans. In 1860, 11 slave states secede from the Union. Democrats start the Civil War. In 1863, Republican President Abraham Lincoln signs the Emancipation Proclamation into law. 1865, Republicans passed the 13th Amendment that permanently outlaws slavery. 1865, Confederate veterans founded the KKK to oppose the Republican Party's integration of blacks. Its first grand wizard was a Democrat named Nathan Bedford Forrest. In 1868, Republicans passed the 15th Amendment, giving blacks the right to vote.

No Democrat supported it. In 1869, Reconstruction ended. Democrats reestablished white supremacy in the South with the Jim Crow laws that legalized segregation. In 1872, Republicans elected the first African-American senators and representatives. In 1878, Republican Senator Aaron Sargent introduces a 19th Amendment to give women the right to vote. The Democrat-controlled Congress voted it out.

In 1939, Democrat and KKK covergirl Margaret Sanger created the Negro Project and planned parenthood to cull the black population. In 1964, the Republican Congress passes the 1964 Civil Rights Act as an extension of the Republican 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts. Democratic senators filibustered the bill for record 75 days. That means they would get there and talk and talk, trying to get the bill to die. They didn't want it to go through.

1964. As far as I'm concerned, the Democratic Party is similar to a terrorist organization inside of our country. Similar, not that they are, because they promote and have promoted evil things, and now they're promoting homosexuality, LGBTQ, transgenderism, woke ideology, abortion. If you're a real Christian, you can't be a Democrat. You're not supposed to be.

You can't support those kind of things. And if you don't like what I'm saying, then you need to repent of your sin. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276, here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. If you'd like, give me a call.

And the number is 877-207-2276. Let's get to Dave from Kansas City. Dave, welcome. You're on the air. Hi.

Thanks, Matt, for taking my call. I think the problem is when we conflate the Republican Party of 1860 and the Republican Party of 1960, we've got a whole different problem. I grew up in Pennsylvania with the Scranton Republicans, and I moved to Texas in the 70s with the John Connolly, Dick Armey, Bill Graham Democrats, and all of a sudden, Southern Democrats became Republicans. Then the Republican North became Democrats.

So we've got to be careful on, you know, where this allegiance came. And I think it, you know, again, the Republican Party of 1860 and the Republican Party of 1960 were two different entities. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They've changed.

They've changed a lot. Yeah. And I don't, I'm not a Republican either.

I don't think the Republican Party is much of anything. Yeah. It's, yeah. Oh, I know, especially, I mean, with Trump putting Paula White as the spiritual advisor. Yeah, that's a mistake.

Yeah, that's a mistake. He's not a theologian. And which I had his in red say, she's not qualified to be in that position. She's not a pastor. You define somebody better, and there are better people. But, yeah.

I know. I think the thing about Trump is that if you understand his first pastor that married his first wife and him were Dale Carnegie, he grew up under that positive thinking. If you name it, claim it type early thing and you if you see how he operates, it's Kim Jong Il is my new best friend, we're going to he always projects things on to things. So he has a lot of that in him.

And I guess he would he would that would favor his name and claim it. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot.

And back there, all intertwined. Absolutely. There is. Yeah.

Some areas more than others. Yeah. But I just you know, again, I just I'm reading a really fantastic book now.

It's taken me a long time to read, but it's called Rebel. Yeah. It's about the autobiography of Stonewall Jackson. This man was a man of God. Yeah, I. Yeah, I heard that. George Washington called George Washington, the white ghost Indians did because they would shoot arrows at him while he's on his knees in the forest praying and the arrows wouldn't hit him. They called him the white ghost. Yeah, there's some interesting stuff in the early guys. Yeah.

Oh, but Stonewall Stonewall was a course his pastor was R.L. Dabney. I'm sorry. Darby Darby. I get Darby and Darby. All right, because we don't want to get Darby and Dabney refused. That would be a big mistake on my part.

All right. But yeah, I just want to say there's been a you know, again, when I grew up and when I moved to Texas, all these Texas Democrats became Republican, all the northeastern Republicans became liberal. And I saw that change.

And so, you know, we want to be careful about when we talk about, you know, the Republican Democrat Party. But, you know, again, there are rhinos on both sides and no party's going to be our absolute savior for we know that. But we do know that crisis all life for all, all of life for all life. That's right. Appreciate that, brother. That's good. Thank you. All right, man. God bless. All right.

All right. Now, let's get to Nate from California. Nate, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, how are you, man? I'm glad. Remember when we spoke yesterday about the baby who was dying? Oh, yes.

Yeah. Well, I have to say she died today in the month of 6 a.m. Well, it's possible. She's more friends with my mother than she is with me. But the thing is this, that from what I spoke to you yesterday, I think that she was truly like out of it. That she what? That she was like out of it, you know, because she was just like a statue of wax, you know, even though she was breathing and died this morning. But what she believed in, in the Catholic Church and all that, what practically everything the Catholics believe in, it hurts.

I can't say where she may be. I'm not God. But being a Protestant Christian, I'm just a conservative.

And knowing theology and apologetics, I listen to you and stuff. I don't know. I can't.

It's hard for me to say where she will be. But from what I see, it's I can't. I don't know.

It can't be. I mean, it's like a Jehovah's Witness talking to me. Yeah.

Yeah. But there was something that that I that I did like. I saw her granddaughter.

She's already like almost a adult. She was carrying a Bible. And I asked her, may I see your Bible? And I saw it and it was a good Bible. One that I would read. One that you would read, you know? Yeah. And I go, I'm going to take something that is a great Bible.

I have 66 books. OK. Please keep on reading it. Please keep on reading it.

And I hope it truly touches you and opens your eyes. Yeah. Well, that's all I wanted to say. Thank you for listening to me yesterday and today.

Sure. I'm sorry that she passed away. And I do hope that by God's grace that.

Yes. That she came to faith in the true gospel and not the Roman Catholic gospel, because you just never know. Well, you never know that from what I saw yesterday, she was like truly out of it, even though she was very paused and breathing. And then she died today in the morning because all I did was I took my Bible.

I read a verse from the Bible when a person is truly despair and pain to pray to the Lord, you know, and the stuff that we do, that we follow. We're doing what we're supposed to do. That's good. You know? Yeah. Well, thank you for listening to me and understanding me completely.

You know that I'm epileptic and I have a DNF and my, like in my heart and my throat sounds terrible. Yeah. Well, okay. Oh, may the Lord bless you.

I mean, you have a great weekend with everyone in your family. Okay. You too go to God bless. Thank you for listening. All right. Okay. Okay. God bless. You too. God bless. All right.

Thank you. Yeah. Let's get to Mike from North Carolina. All right, Mike, you're on the air.

Hey, Matt. I wanted to ask you that the guy that was talking about the Democratic Party and the Republican, was he talking about what's called the big switch where Democrats, the old Democrats became Republicans and the Republicans became Democrats? Was that what he was talking about? I think so.

Yeah. Well, that's a myth. That is an absolute myth because if you look at the Democrats, what we'll call the Dixiecrats, like Abe Faubus, the guy that was the mentor to Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and Snathers, all those guys, Lester Maddox in Georgia. I live in North Carolina and I taught history. All of those guys, every one of them, except for one, died a Democrat. The only one that switched from Democrat to Republican was the old guy that died several years ago. I can't remember his name.

It was from South Carolina. Okay. But anyway, there's only one. The whole notion of the big switch is a big lie. Okay. It never happened.

Interesting. Okay. Hey, we got a break. We got a break. So hold on. We got a break. We got a break. So we got to go. Okay?

Yeah. Hold on buddy. Hey folks, be right back after these messages.

If you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right buddy, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Mike from North Carolina. Welcome you back on. Yeah, Matt.

Are you there? Yes. Oh, okay. Okay.

You kind of faded out there for a second. And by the way, I'm like you. I'm an independent. I am not a Republican.

But I just don't like it when people pass along mythology. Just one more thing about the Democrat Republican thing. The leader of the Senate in the Democratic Party through the early 2000s. I can't remember his name. He's from, he was the Senator from West Virginia. He was a Grand Cleagle in the Ku Klux Klan. He was interviewed in 2000. It's still on the internet.

You can find it. And he used the N word four times. It was an interview with 60 minutes or one of those programs.

He used the N word four times during that interview. And if you look at Democratic cities, they are the worst run. The education system is in shambles. And what was it that was against the law in the slave states? To teach the slaves you do not want an educated population. Maxine Waters District, Maxine Waters District in Los Angeles.

Not a single, not a single student is proficient at grade level in the whole school system. Now that is a, that's an eye opener. And you know, yeah, I think she's, I've seen her. Yeah, I think she's wicked.

Oh yeah, she's, she's right out of hell. But anyway, just, just to let people know that that whole thing is a total, total myth. But anyway, I have another question.

Sure. I came up in, you know, I was, I was, it was a comment section and someone had posted that we were now living in the end times. It was a, it was a political thing, but this Christian posted that we were living in the, in the times you need to accept Christ because the end is near. Christ is a, he was actually saying that Christ was already on the earth. And I commented back to him, but I never heard from him again, telling him to please stop with that kind of stuff because that's crazy talk. Right.

And I'm wondering if you've heard any of that, um, cause I know you've talked to a lot of people, have had anybody that has mentioned that, um, that we're living in the end times because Trump got elected. Was that Strom Thurman? Thurman? Thurman. Yeah, Strom Thurman. Strom Thurman.

Thank you. Ronald. He's the one that switched from, you know, he's the one that switched from, from, from Democrat to Republican and he was a Dixiecrat. He's the only one with Strom Thurman.

The other guy was, I cannot remember his name. We got people in the chat who, well, that's okay. But, um, yeah.

Yeah. I'm with you. I think the Democratic party is, is an evil party.

It stands for everything against scripture. And, uh, I would like to see it just go away. I'm thinking, I'm thinking that the MAGA, that there might be a MAGA party that develops.

That'd be interesting. Well, in history we've lost other political parties. I mean, we used to have the Federalists. We had the Whigs. Uh, we had the Democrat Republicans or, or Republican Democrats.

I can't remember which one it is, but anyway. Um, so we've had parties come and go. Yeah. Um, but, uh, have you heard anything about people talking about, yeah, that this is the end times because of the peace that looks like it's developing in the Middle East? That they're associating that with the end times. Yeah, but momentary peace doesn't... We're now living in the end times because of the things that are happening politically. Well, we are in the last days. Have you heard any of that?

Yeah, I've heard it before. Yeah, right. So we're not, we are in the last days. Now are we in the end of the last days?

That's the question. And then in that sense, end times, I don't know. Uh, people have been saying this for a long time. I just say, look at thee as Jesus has watched the signs of the times.

Now they're getting more profound and it certainly is the case that there's a lot of wickedness there. We're having a reprieve in America right now, uh, for, with Trump here. So who knows what's going to happen, but the Bible does talk about things getting really bad at the end. So we'll see what happens. Yeah, I thought, I thought for sure that America was going to be judged, uh, in this next election.

And we were delivered. Yeah, if Kamala had been President, I would have just, I mean, I would have given up on our, on the United States. My wife and I were already looking at other places to move to, other countries, uh, just in case, because we just don't trust the Democrats because, you know, they were, they're attacking conservatives. They're weaponizing the IRS, the DOJ, the FBI. At that point, our country's lost.

And so we couldn't believe it that Trump won so, so by a landslide. But then, you know, look who's up against, I think Kamala and AOC ought to become roommates. That's what I think. They can educate each other. It'd be great. I'd love to see, have them have a conversation and just, don't want to interrupt them.

Just let them talk. Because I saw, I mean, as someone's, I think she, AOC, I think she said that, uh, I think she said that, uh, Elon was a stupid billionaire. And I just, I just love that. Stupid billionaire. He's founded 14 companies, right?

It's just, it's like, but he's a stupid billionaire. It's like, oh wow, that's good stuff. At any rate, I'd love to see Kamala and her get together and talk. Just yap. I'd love to hear that. Just let them go.

See what kind of idiocy comes out. Well, I, you know, I, I do agree with you on one thing that we do need another party, a different party. I don't think there's any redemption for the Democrat party because they've been evil for too long. Yeah. And Republicans may better get their, they better get their stuff together because they are equivalent to what the Democrats were back in the early sixties, late fifties, as far as their positions and stuff goes. So, yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that's coming. I have hope.

I didn't have hope before, but I have hope now. Yeah. Well listen, thanks a lot. All right, brother. Yeah. All right. And I'll probably think of that guy's name.

I'll do that. He, like I said, the, the Senator that died from West Virginia died in 2010, I think. Yeah.

It was when he died and, uh, uh, he, he was a real character, but anyway. All right. Thanks, Matt. God bless. All right. Sounds good. God bless.

All right. Now let's get over here to, let's see, Lindsay from Texas. Hey Lindsay.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hey Lindsay. Uh, can you hear me?

I mean, uh, Hey Matt. Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. I hear you, man. What's up? Sorry. I had the speaker phone.

My phone is awful, but I love your show. I love your ministry. I just had a quick question before I went into my men's group. We have a men's group here. Um, I have a problem with certain things that go on that are accepted to go on in church during service. I feel like it's, it can fix me so bad and I don't know how to tell it to my leaders. Um, I don't know how to tell it without seeming out of order, but I don't appreciate the Kennedy's or anything like any groups like that. Uh, Valentine's day, black history month. A lot of things we do in the culture outside of church, which is fine.

I'm not downing it in general. I just have a huge problem with it. These different activities, Sunday morning worship involving these different activities. I just, I can't stand it and it's really heavy on my heart and I just feel like God's temple is a temple. He's a jealous God that belongs to him. We also lift up Jesus and that's it.

All that other stuff that we do outside of church with our families and colleges and friends. It's okay. Um, I wouldn't even like watching the Superbowl on the big screen on the sanctuary. I mean, why? And I've seen some people do that. I just don't like occupying his face.

That's for him. Let's talk about some of them. Let's talk about some of those. Okay.

So, uh, cause I think it's interesting. So Valentine's day, what if it falls on a Sunday and I think it does, I don't know. And a church just, uh, has women, uh, or the father's day, I can't remember father's day and mother's day. They had the father stand up and they're prayed for and then the mothers on the mother's day would send up their prayed for.

I think that's fine. That's, that's not a big deal. I definitely love that because God is definitely in the family. He's loved. He's definitely in the family. He has nothing to do with Valentine's day.

I looked up the origin of it and I was like, man, this is weird. Yeah, it is. So Valentine's day, I don't know. You know, I don't think it's really things to be celebrated.

You know what I mean? If someone were to say from the pulpit, happy Valentine's day, let's open your Bible to and then they go, okay, whatever. Not a big deal. Now, as far as having a super bowl thing, uh, at the church location after the service, I don't think there's a problem with that because possibly unbelievers might come in to fellowship with people and you never know.

And so that could be considered an outreach. So that's it. And this is, I'm gonna tell you, this is for, for real. I don't even, I didn't even know the super bowl was happening until a couple of days ago and I have no idea who's playing. I don't even know what day it is. That's that's for real.

I'm not kidding. I just, and it's, my wife knows more about it than me. And I said, last night I said, you know, I don't even know who's playing. I look at her and I go, and I don't want to know, I don't care to know, you know, just not interested. And, uh, she's, she, she married this guy who just, all her brothers grew up with all the sports.

She's like, you're, you're just so different. I think that's right. So, so Matt, how do you feel about the fraternities and stuff coming in with all their, their clothes and their symbols and stuff? How do you feel about that? The what coming in? The fraternities and different groups from colleges celebrating like during service?

Well, it depends. I don't think it's a place for a fraternity to celebrate anything. They have secret oaths in there and things like that, which is not really biblical. So, uh, you know, the church, church is for the edification of the body of Christ, not for the reaching of the unbelievers during the service that the preaching of the teaching of the word of God is to equip them and send them out into the world. If unbelievers want to come into the church during that time, that's fine, but it's not for them. It's not geared for them.

People don't know that it's geared for the believer. So it should be a time that is geared for that, for the edification of the body of Christ. But sometimes I think it's wise to, you know, let's say a Super Bowl Sunday, which I think it's on Sunday, so I guess, um, you know, and then they say, Hey, come back here in three hours. We're going to have the chairs rearranged. So we're going to have eight. So we're going to watch it on the big screen here. I don't have any problem with that.

You know, if you plan to do that, that's not a problem, but you know, but I'm with you for fraternities, but what kind of fraternity to, is it a Christian college fraternity and they want someone to come in during the service to talk about what they're doing as an outreach from the, the, uh, on the campus. Well, that, okay. You know, you haven't given five minutes to talk about what they're doing and so it just depends.

A lot of it just depends. Right. All right. Thank you, man. I appreciate you. Okay, brother. Well, God bless, man. God bless. Yeah. Have a good one. Thank you.

Yeah. So a lot of people don't know, they make a mistake thinking that church is for getting unbelievers into the pastor can give the gospel to them. That's not what it's for. The church is for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry. Let me, let me, uh, go to Ephesians chapter four and I read you something before the, they got less than a minute here. Uh, and he says in Ephesians four, it says, um, he gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers. Verse 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service to the building of the body of Christ until we attend to unity of the faith. So the purpose of the church is to be, is to sit under and be guided by, uh, the pastors, the elders, the teachers, et cetera, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service. So the church is to equip the Christians, the Christians go spread the gospel.

That's not supposed to be. Is that happening in churches? See, if I was a pastor again, I would have the Sunday service, but I'd also have a midweek equipping class that you provide it for the body. We're going to teach you doctrine, we're going to teach you stuff, we're going to go through stuff.

It takes six months. You and that I provide that for them. That's what I would do. But anyway, whatever.

I don't know a lot of churches do that kind of stuff too. That's good. Hey, there we go.

There's the music. We're out of time. May the Lord bless you. It's a nice Friday. Monday by his grace. We're back on the air. Hope you all have a great weekend. May the Lord bless you and by his grace, we'll talk to you on Monday. Have a good weekend.