Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at Carm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

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My name is Matt Slick. It's a real name. We call it Matt Slick Live. It just kind of works with the radio show name. I don't really like it that much because it sounds narcissistic, but they say it's a good name for radio and stuff like that.

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You know, I'm working on a project and. Let's see, everything should be fine. Everything should be fine.

Sound should be good. And I'm working on a project. I released an article just a half hour or so ago.

Now, I did a preliminary article a while back. Is there a New Testament priesthood? And what I did today is I went through. and found Roman Catholic Quote as they relate to different aspects of priesthood work. And Then found it took a lot of work.

I've been working on it for about six hours. And then um Uh I want to see this, then contrasted it with biblical stuff to show that the same thing that they're doing in their priesthood is what was done in the Old Testament, but it's not found in the New Testament.

So, therefore, if it's not found in the New Testament, then their priesthood is not a New Testament priesthood. It's an Old Testament priesthood. It's been abrogated and gotten rid of.

So, therefore, the Roman Catholic Church's priesthood is false. And I found an interesting quote, which I want to read to you along these lines. For me, this is exciting. You know. It is exciting, but this is what it says.

This is from the Vatican website. Nevertheless, the liturgy is the summit. The liturgy includes, ladies and gentlemen, the Eucharist and the priesthood sacrifice thing of the Eucharist. Nevertheless, the liturgy is a summit toward which the activity of the church is directed. At the same time, it is the font from which all her power flows.

For the aim and object of apostolic works is that all who are made sons of God by faith and baptism. Should come together to praise God in the midst of his church to take part in the sacrifice to eat the Lord's Supper.

So um What we're hearing, I mean what we uh what we can then say is that um And we gotta do this. is that if their priesthood Which they say is, see, the liturgy, they say liturgy, they mean the whole church service. And this has a certain pattern. And the priest is involved. The priest has to lift up the Eucharist.

The priest has to make it change into the body and blood of Christ. The priest, all this stuff.

So, without that priesthood. then the Catholic Church is just void. Period. It is that significant, it's that important because it says from that liturgy flows the font of all our powers. And this is what was said in Sacrosanctum Concilium Vatican II, 1963, number 10.

And so this is on the Vatican website.

Now. If we can find that there is no New Testament equivalent to what they do. And we do find it in the Old Testament, then what we've discovered is they don't have a Biblical New Testament, New Covenant priesthood. But there is a New Testament priesthood. Believe it or not, there is.

And it falls into two categories. Priesthood of all believers, 1 Peter 2, 5 and 9, and also Revelation 1:6, but also the priesthood of Christ. As the high priest after the order of Melchizedek.

So, um That is it. There is no priesthood other than that. There is no priesthood. In the New Testament, that is the same as the Roman Catholic priesthood. It just doesn't exist.

So, therefore, Uh Let's see, there we go.

So, therefore, its priesthood is invalid, and the entire church is invalid. To me, I think this is This is incredible. I think it's incredible information. And so, what I'm going to do is the same thing tomorrow, the next day, on the Eastern Orthodox Church.

So what I have to do is I have to Find the same kind of quotes that would exist in the, let's see, there we go. Hope that'll help. The same kind of quotes that exist in the Eastern Orthodox writings. And I'll just, what I'll basically do is just replace the Catholic quotes with Eastern Orthodox quotes. I've got this big format thing already done.

And so, what I want to do also is present it in a video. And this could be hard to do because it's one thing to write something, it's another thing to put it in a video form. And so, there's a little bit of a different flow in that. All right, having said all of that, let's get to Robert from Utah. Robert, welcome.

you're on the air. Hey, how you doing? Doing all right. I listen to when I'm driving home. And I I just had a story A story.

Well, generally, we do questions, an answer, not a story, but what's going on? It's kinda like a Like My situation was I l I was listening to you last week And a guy called about some some friend of his suicide himself and uh that he talked to him about God.

Okay. I don't know the way I heard him. He was kind of building. Blag. like down like he talked to his friend about that.

Okay, do you have a question though? You have a question? Have a question. I just want to say that something familiar like that happened to me. I had a friend that got shot and died.

Okay. And I talked to him about that before he died.

Okay. Well, that's good. I hope that they. Received Christ. I hope that that's what happened that they received Christ.

Yeah, so the thing was that he died pretty slow. And I kinda feel like Like if I didn't talk to him about God, three days before he got shot. I feel like For Christians, we shall always speak if the angel's talking to us. to say something to someone. Yes.

Right, I would agree. And that's all I have to say.

Okay. Because I believe we all hold ourselves. I appreciate that. Yeah, we should talk to people when we have the opportunity, when it's prompted to do that.

So okay. Yeah. All right. Well appreciate it. Thank you.

Thank you. Alright. You're welcome. I love your show. I'm glad you do.

All right. All right, so the reason I paused it in TikTok is because we found out that certain words trigger certain things in TikTok. We've got to be careful. That's why I paused it because he's talking about that topic. Let's get to Mary from North Carolina.

Mary, welcome. You're on the air. Hi, thank you for taking my call.

So, I have, I think, a simple question, but I've never really been able to get a good answer.

So, um, Where do the dinosaurs fit in the time line?

Some people say that during the times of the sons of God, there was. possibly millions of years and they could have been there. And some people say they were there before the Ark. Could you tell me when where when and where were the dinosaurs?

Well, uh they were created by God When you created other animals. Right. And so there's great sea monsters in day five. Great sea monsters, for example, and land animals, creeping things, in day six. And in Job, we find in which appears to be in the book of Job, the scriptures of dinosaurs.

In Job 40 and in Job 41. One seems to be land-based, one seems to be water-based.

So, where do they fit in?

Well, they were made when God made other animals. I mean, like, is it in that when people think of the new earth or the old earth? You know, that that kind of question is what I'm asking.

Okay, the old earth is now, the new earth is going to be created later. And he most probably will restore those animals as well. I've heard something like 98% of all species have ever lived are now extinct.

So I'm assuming, I don't know, I'm assuming God's going to restore the animals. All of them. Do you think they were there during the time before the Ark? Yes. Yeah.

Because the ark happened before the ark and after the ark, because they probably were on the ark with them. Probably took them as babies and as young. Young ones and eggs and various things, not not a problem.

So I had thought I had heard that, so thank you.

So they were kind of around still around the time before the August. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well I appreciate that. Thank you.

All right, you're welcome. God bless.

Okay. All right, you know, uh They found, just so you guys know, they found a soft tissue in dinosaur remains reportedly 80 million years old. And that's a serious problem because DNA is not supposed to be able to last 80 million years inside of fossils. In fact, a woman, I forgot her name, was the first one to discover this, a woman, archaeologist, scientist. And when she wrote about it and told people about it, they said she was crazy.

because it's just p impossible. And then they found out she was right, and so now they're trying to come up with theories to explain it.

So there's that. And there's other areas of evolution that are problematic. I would reference. There are various books for. for um you know for you you know get what I would do I I know what I would do is just go on the on if you're interested, go on on Google and just type in or go into the Chat GPT or whatever and just type in books that that demonstrate evidence against evolution.

And there are a lot of them out there. And they're serious. The evidence is out there. It is serious stuff. It's worth looking at.

All right, let's get to. Oh, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. Let's get on with Chris from Ohio. Chris, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, thanks for taking my call.

So so I'm married to a a Catholic and I'm uh attending a fundamentalist church. And I really wanted to thread thread the needle between genuine selecting and the cross and not being able to talk in the sanctuary to the point where It's like, you know, Luther you know, believed in the presence and s and Calvin's like, Yeah, it's kinda there and then Zwingli's like, Uh yeah, it's all symbolism and the church I'm in, it's like they're bringing k lattes and and and coffee and you know into the church and I was watching something from RC Sproll. You know, it was like, you've got to have deference because you're at the base of Mount Zion, and I'm going to stop talking. I just want your.

Well, I'm not sure what your question was, though. But hold on, we got a break. And so we get back. We'll get back on with you and formulate a question. We'll get to it, okay?

So hold on, buddy. All right. Okay, thank you. All right. Hey, folks, be right back after these messages.

Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, it is easy.

All I have to do is dial 8772-072276. Let's get on again with Chris from Ohio. Chris, you're back on here, buddy. Thanks, man. Sure.

All right, so What what What was the question?

Sorry.

Well Um I think I may be a Presbyterian, but I don't know. I just started going to church and I'm I'm there just doesn't seem to be any um reverence for walking into the the the the building and I understand is bricks and mortar, but I I just I I you have to have some respect for I mean, genuine looking towards the altar and respect for dre not wearing flip-flops and and drinking lattes, and I I just don't know. Let me run something by you. Let me run something by you, okay? Different people, different cultures.

All right, so I grew up basically in Southern California, and the surfing community is pretty big out there. And Chuck Smith had a church, yeah, maybe 15, 20 minutes from the beach, you know, getting out of the water to the church. And back in the day. I saw the movie, yeah. It was cool.

Yeah, yeah. And I was baptized. My wife and I were baptized by Chuck Smith. That was a church we went to, his church. Wow, that's great.

And so, one of the things I heard him talk about when I was there, I was there for a couple, three years. I attended her for, well, Anyway, so there was a time when surfers. would come into the church barefoot, or with flip flops, leave their surfboards outside, come in in shorts, matted hair from surfing, just whatever shirts they'd have, and they would sit down between the in the aisles and listen to the sermons.

Now That's awesome. That's awesome.

Well, I don't have a problem with that, but these same people wear a uniform to Walmart and they dress up as a suit to go to their accounting firm. And it's like well, why are you giving respect to says but earthly things when you're not giving respect to the the the the the God's house. I got you, but that's not the issue. The issue isn't you have to wear a certain tie in God's house. The issue is, what's your heart like?

People could be dressed up really nicely and have hypocrisy in their hearts. That's not the issue. It's not the outward issue. And so I don't care what people look like when they come in. I've been to a church, I went checked out a church once, I never ended up going there, but the people were you know the the pastor drove up in a Harley, on a Harley.

He had a black uh tight shirt and uh uh Levi's on. And the people who were there, some had spiked hair, some didn't have spiked hair, some were dressed differently, and they just loved the Lord Jesus. That Was the priority. Their fellowship with one another, they didn't care about how you looked, that wasn't the issue. if it's the case that we must show reverence by our dress, In the church, then it could become a legalistic thing where we start judging others.

Well, you didn't wear a shirt and tie. You don't really love God, do you? And there's nothing like that in Scripture. It's the attitude of the heart. Oh, man, man, I'm not talking about that.

I understand the danger of legalism, and that's not what I'm saying. It's just that there doesn't seem to be a reverence. And that that's what I'm concerned about. Oh, interesting.

Well, reverence is an abstraction. It's an emotional thing that occurs in the heart.

So, I mean, now it's kind of curious because you could have someone come in with a cup of coffee. And sit down in a chair, and in their hearts they just start praying to God. And no one knows. And they're saying, Lord, please bless the sermon, please bless the path the pastor and the worship team, and just thank you, Lord. Give you the flip-flops and shorts.

I'd better have that. You know, you're helping me a lot, but this is like. It's the word that you know, solemnity. It's just like I I just Maybe it's just because that's where I was raised, and it's like, well, because I never went to church for 50 years, and I walked by one and Even when I was a Hellion as a kid, and it was like, Well, you gotta be nice if there's a nun or there's you know, there's a church.

So maybe that's just it. Maybe that's what you're drilling down into. Yeah, see, the thing about these, you know, the Catholic Church, the East Orthodox Church, it smells in bells and gold and silver. And so reverence is outward. Reverence is by the stand up, sit down, turn around, touch your nose, do three jumping jacks, touch this, touch that, pray to Mary, do this, and all of this reverence that they do in an outward form.

Now that's an abomination to God because their service is idolatrous and their service is ultimately very irreverent because they're not serving the true and living God with the true gospel and they're bowing down before idols. And yet they can seem to have a very high reverence. for God in their service all the while. when they're doing that which is abominable. You see?

Can I ask you one more thing, Ann? Sure. So that like I said, I've been I'm 54, it's been four years, and then this church is, you know, all we do is read the Bible, and so I'm really learning a lot, and I, and I love them. I mean, I really do. But I I don't like the fact that they call Calvin and Luther heroes and then just you know like well we're we don't we don't do this anymore and after, you know, I'm like, well, now wait a second.

How how it does it just doesn't smell the or doesn't pass the smell test.

So that's all I'm saying. I'm I'm not looking to pick a fight With them. I'm with you. I wouldn't call them heroes and stuff like that. I would just leave it alone.

You know, it's like, come on. They were great men.

Okay, true. But so. You know? Yeah, that's nice. I don't follow Luther.

I went to a Lutheran college and I don't follow Calvin. I went to a Calvinist college. I mean, seminary.

So I don't follow those guys.

Well, they they have the bu they have the buffering of hundreds of years and so they look back on them a little bit more fondly than they probably would have in the the current if they were in the uh under the the nu the news cycle. Yeah, that's true. Does that make sense? Yeah, and people will revere varying things in people. I don't think they should, but.

The you know the issue here is uh Attitude is what God wants, a sacrificial heart and a humble heart. And people can go in dressed in flip-flops and shorts and a surfboard under their arm and kneel down before God and be reverent. Or they can come in with a suit and tie and be mocking things, their neighbors to the left and right because they're not dressed right. And so we've got to be careful that the outward externals.

Now on the other hand, you know, I mean, we wouldn't want a a woman coming in in a bikini, you know, it's just inappropriate. Or some guy in a in you know, something that just just stained everything up. Normally speaking. I mean, but what if he just came in? He just his car broke down, he's working on it, and church service starts.

He goes, Oh, just go in there and see what happens.

Well, that's fine.

So there's all kinds of variables, and I just think we've got to be careful and look at the market. Thank you so much. You know what I'm hearing? What? worry about your relationship with God and then disciple to them.

There you go. There you go. You try.

Okay. That's a good idea. I wish I'd have said that earlier. That's good.

So, good stuff, brother. All right. Okay, yeah, it would have been a four-minute or a four-second phone call. Thanks, Lord. That's right.

Yeah, you summed it up better than I did.

So, good, good for you. All right. So, praise God. Goodbye. All right, man.

God bless.

Okay. All right, now this might be interesting. Brother Patrick from North Carolina. Patrick, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, Matt, it's me, Patrick. Great. Um Mike, what are you doing? Oh, there's a break. Hold on.

Sorry for the timing, Patrick. We've got a break coming up. There's the music.

So hold on. We'll get back to you after the break, okay? All right, hey folks, we'll be right back. We've got Jermaine waiting and Alberto waiting, and win open line 877-207-2276. We'll be right back.

It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All Robert, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Patrick. Patrick, welcome.

You're on the air. Uh hello. My uh question is about uh John 3.5. When Jesus said, I tell you the truth, unless you're born of water and spirit, You will never enter the kingdom of heaven. And I think you believe that the water is natural birth When a w mother a woman's Yes, that's my view.

It's not the majority view of people.

Okay. Right. But if that's your view Was Adam born of a woman? No, he was uh born of of God. Right.

So he wasn't born of the water and spirit according to your belief. No, he was created by God directly. And he was redeemed by the Lord Jesus Christ. Because the Lord Jesus, pre-incarnate Christ, covered him with animal skins, shedding up blood, so he was redeemed.

So, what Jesus is talking about here is the normative thing that you're supposed to go with. You've got to be born physically, you've got to be born spiritually. That's what he's doing.

Okay, and then you believe Jesus is God and he was reincarnated in the Garden of Eden. Didn't Jesus crucified? No, wait, wait, wait. No, he's God in flesh, but he was not reincarnated.

Well then, did Jesus involved with Adam's birth or Adam's? Creation. Yes, the pre-incarnate Christ. He wasn't Jesus until the incarnation 2,000 years ago.

Okay. Okay, so you do believe Jesus because he was the word of God. He created Adam. Jesus, by definition, is the two natures, the divine nature and the human nature, and that each nature has attributes or properties. And the properties are ascribed to the one person.

So, by definition, Jesus is one person with two natures.

So, Jesus, in that sense, came into existence 2,000 years ago. But the divine part of him, the divine word, was eternal, and the pre-incarnate manifestation, the pre-incarnate Christ, was in the garden with Adam and Eve.

Okay. Okay. Um In John 3:5, I believe it's living water because Jesus told the woman at the well: if you knew the gift of God, you would have asked me for a drink, I would have given you living water that will well up to eternal life. Yes. Do you believe living water could be the water in John 3:5?

No, because you just switched context. I don't think so.

Now you just went from one context to another, ripped it out of context and then misapplied it.

Okay. All right. Yeah, but it's it's it's kind of a coincidence that John 3.5, and then in John 4.10, he explains a water And he says it's eternal life.

So I truly believe that that is the water in John 3:5. You can believe it all you want. Yeah, but like you said, Abraham. Um Adam could not have gone to heaven because he wasn't born of a woman. I answered you.

Here's the thing: you know, I answer you, I answer a lot of people, give them an answer, and then they ignore the answer and they go on with the same thing. I've already responded to you. Right, but I believe that comes out of the way. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. It's frustrating when I give an answer to somebody, they ignore the answer, they don't address it, they just dismiss it.

That doesn't refute the position, it's just dismissive.

So, if you can refute the ideas, I said the pre-incarnate Christ covered Adam and Eve with the animal skins, justifying them. That was the Proto Angela yacht. The first gospel occurrence.

So by Christ's hand, he was saved. And I told you, John 3:5, Jesus is speaking normatively. He's speaking, you've got to be born here, born from above. Anothen in Greek. Not born again, it's born from above, what it really means.

It says, okay? Yeah, but there is nobody in the Bible other than Adam that wasn't born of a woman. Uh that's correct. Yeah. Okay.

And angels. All right, I just wanted to make that point and Okay. Let your audience make a decision on what the water is in John 3.5. Yeah, and that's good. All right, talk to you later.

Okay, bye. Thank you. Yep. First time I haven't been hung up on. Thank you.

Came close.

Okay, bye. All right. You guys don't know who Patrick is. He's, let's just say, he does not have all his theological pause in the litter box. We've been discussing off and on for years.

Let's get to next longest waiting is Jermaine from California. Jermaine, welcome. You're on the air. had a question about The blood of of Jesus and Salvation. I know John MacArthur made some comments that considered controversy a while ago.

about the blood not saving. and it'll be more the act itself, but I know some people personally who took that like very seriously, almost as if it was false profit territory and I I I think I kind of understand what he's saying. And I believe a lot of it's been misconstrued. because I I thought he was saying the physical substance itself was not what was saving people, but the act of sacrifice. And I wanted to give your word on that.

Yeah, I'd have to see the quote. I haven't seen it. And to get a a contextual uh Okay. learning of it. But uh Because apparently what he said is not the blood of Jesus that saves, but his death.

I would disagree with him. On the surface, I would disagree and say, no, that's not what the Bible says. It says we're justified by the blood of God. And I think it's Romans 5:9 says that. And also, we're cleansed with blood.

Hebrews talks about that.

So, no, it is the blood. The blood was given for atonement. And that's Hebrews 17:11. I mean, Leviticus 17, 11.

So it might be that he was trying to say something specific and didn't word it right. And I've certainly done that.

So, without knowing exactly what I would do, if I was talking to him, I'd say, okay, about this statement. The blood of Jesus is not like the blood of anybody else.

So it is his blood specifically to cleanse us from sins. And if he better say yes. If he says no, then that's abject heresy.

Okay. Okay. Yes, and I'll I'm going to go ahead and revisit the statement myself. It's been some time, but that was one I actually have always wanted to bring up and discuss. from the way I understood it Mm-hmm.

I believe, I could be mistaken, it sounded like he was trying to say it would be a substance. itself you know, wasn't what was uh As important as the act. But I'm going to go ahead and revisit the statement and I'll make sure. Because he's too good of a theologian to make that kind of blatant mistake. And I've done this before where I understand some concepts that aren't easy for others to understand.

It's not because I'm smart, they're dumb, it's because sometimes you've got to understand other things, and then certain concepts fit. You go, oh, I get that now. And it's hard to sometimes articulate those, and it could come out wrong. And so, you know, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. If he's saying that the blood is just the human aspect of the blood, I get it, but it's the blood of Jesus who, you know, two natures.

And then we get into the. See, put it this way, I could argue his position. and make it make sense, I could argue against it also.

Okay. You can find out what he means. All right. Okay. quick follow-up, do you think because of uh I guess what you would call the hippostatic union that would Yeah, would that be something that kind of verifies your position.

The hypostatic union is the biblical position that Jesus has two distinct natures, a divine nature and a human nature. And the attributes of both natures are ascribed to the single person, and that's called the communication of the properties of each nature.

So that's biblical theology, that's correct theology.

So as long as he affirms that, that's good. I believe he does.

Now see, we get into the issue of um L it it's like this.

So, when I ask which nature died on the cross, the divine nature by definition cannot die. Only the human nature can, only the human essence.

Now, then, when I get into the issue of essence, well, an essence doesn't die, it's a physicality that does. I don't want to get into that sidetrap right now. But the human aspect of Christ is what died on the cross. How then is a sacrifice of divine value if only the human nature died? And the answer is found in the communication of the properties because it's the person represented by the human.

that died on the cross. What I mean by the person represented by the human, I mean we see the divine through the human. We see the man Jesus walk on water, we see the man Jesus command the storm, raise the dead.

So we see and perceive the divine through the human. That's what I mean by that.

So the human nature died, but if only the human nature died, then the sacrifice can't be of divine value, except that it's the person of Christ who died on the cross represented by that what we perceive as the human person. The human, but it's not just the human person.

So I've got to be careful how I say these things because someone could take them, the sentence I say and say, see, this is what Matt taught, it's a heresy. But they could take it out of context. And it's difficult to articulate this when I'm talking. And so the value in the blood is because it's of the person of Christ who has attributes of both natures. And that's why the sacrifice of Christ is of value.

And it is the blood that's sacrificed that cleanses us, and it is the death that atones.

So he's right, but to what extent is he defining terms? That's what I mean.

Okay, buddy? All right, that's good. I'm going to do some study. Thank you. All right, buddy, God bless.

That was Jermaine from the People's Republic of California. We'll get back with. Alberto, pretty soon after the break. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. We dropped a couple of callers during the break. If you want to give me a call, the number is 877-2072276. Let's get on with Alberto.

Alberto, welcome. You're on the air. Yeah, good evening, Master. My question is, you know the Old Testament say that It's a way to see righteous man, but the under the end of the the end is destruction.

So how do you apply that with the new covenant where it says that Christ makes us right with God.

So how do you balance that out between that verse and the new covenant? Say the first one again? How do you balance the verse in the Old Testament say it's a way of seeing right to man, but the end is his destruction?

So it seems right, he thinks right. But what he's doing, but how do you make me before God? He's doing right. But what balancing with the new covenant says Christ makes us right out with God, not our own. Ability to make us look right with God.

That's Proverbs 14:12. And it's just a wisdom statement. That's all it is. It's just a generic wisdom statement. And so that's a context of varying things that are true, that have wisdom in them, and you, you know, the things, you know.

What we think might be good is not what God considers good. What we might think is right is not what God thinks is right. That's different. Then uh in the New Testament stuff you're bringing out.

Okay, how do you balance this verse? When the Bible says in the Old Testament say, Seek me all your heart, and you will find me. And the new covenant says that God is one seeking us. not necessarily him. It's a true statement if it's a true statement if you seek him with all your heart.

But he's talking to the covenant people of Israel. Those are already believers.

Okay. Now the third question real quick. Can you be a Calvinist apart from the teachings of John Calvin? Just based on the scriptures alone.

Well, it depends on how you define the phrase teachings of John Calvin. Because if he taught tulip and you believe tulip, then you can't be that without the teachings of him. But you could arrive at Reformed theology without studying John Calvin.

So there's a yes and no, it just depends. I knew a guy once, and I told him, I didn't say what Calvinism was, I just told him varying doctrines. He goes, yeah, that's what I believe. I said, where'd you get that? He goes, I'll read the Bible.

He hadn't heard of John Calvin. He didn't know. He believed in man's inability, and God had to grant us faith and predestination, and that Jesus only died for the sheep. I mean, that's what he believed. That's what it says.

You know, I just read it. That's what it says. I said, Where'd you get that? He goes, I don't know. I just read it.

Yeah well.

So I remember that.

Okay. Okay. I heard these people say that that there's a sister race before Adam and Eve, a predemic race. Is that false or true? It's false.

There's no predemic race.

Okay. Alright. Yeah. Adam's the first man. Because Yeah, in 1 Corinthians, let me show you.

1 Corinthians 15, 45, I think it is. Fifth 1 Corinthians 15. The first man, Adam, became a living soul. That's 1 Corinthians 15:45. He's called the first man, therefore, there's no pre-demic race.

Simple, done, next. You know, it's like, okay, next. That's what I believe. There's only no creature before before Adam, I guarantee.

Well what's the purpose of they're pretty pretty damn erased, right? Yeah. But it's another person too, but a gap theory is another thing, too. I believe in progressive creation. I don't believe in the gap theory.

I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but.

Okay, yeah, I don't believe in the gap theory either, but uh I know why people believe it. And it's okay. Uh you know, you you can if you want, it's not outside of orthodoxy, but uh Yeah, Scarfield brought that teaching, right? Schofield, yeah, I think so. I don't know, but maybe.

Okay. All right. All right. Thank you, sir. God bless.

All right. God bless.

Okay. All right, we have nobody waiting right now. If you want to give me a call, the number's easy, 8772. 072276.

So, how about if I just kind of get to some emails because I don't have any waiting right now? I like doing emails. Um. Oh okay.

So, I was reading the Bible and I came across the verse in Isaiah 45:5. It talks about one God, Jesus. Does it refer to Jesus?

Well, the one God is a tri-une being.

So, what we would say then. is that uh That's my emails there. Is that uh The one God is simply Just Yahweh. But Yahweh is a triune being, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. That's all we'd say.

So Jesus is the incarnation of the second person. All right, let's see about another one. As Christians, how are we to view the religion of Judaism today?

Well, God's not done with Israel. They need the Messiah, they need to repent, they need to come to faith. They won't be saved without Christ. But there is a large movement of conversions occurring now in J Judaism, all over the world. I have a friend, Trevor Rubenstein, and he goes around witnessing, and he works for a ministry about reaching out to the Jews.

And boy, is he Jewish-looking. He's a great guy. He's a real great guy. I just love him like a brother. And he's been telling me that.

There are just a great many uh Jews converting to Christianity.

So uh anyway, uh we view view Judaism uh uh they still need the the uh the gospel, they still need Jesus, okay? All right, let's get with Jim from Ohio. Hey, Jim, welcome. You are on the air. Yes, hi, Matt.

Yeah, thanks for taking my call. I appreciate all you do. Matt, I'd just like you to expound on The doctrine of laying on his hands which I think a lot of people don't realize that's referred to as one of the foundational doctrines of Christ in the scriptures.

Well, just so happens, I did an article on this. Let's see, when did I write it? Laying out of hands. I wrote it July, I released it July 2nd, actually. And I found that there are eight different categories of it to arrest.

Lay hands by arresting and doing harm. You can bless somebody by laying hands on them, commission them by laying hands on them, heal them, impart a spiritual gift. There's judgment. There's a phrase God says: then I will lay my hand on Egypt by great judgments. And that's not the kind of laying on the hands I want from God.

And then there's the receiving of the Holy Spirit and transference of sin.

So Uh there you go.

Okay. So that's enlightening. A lot of different aspects. And I'd like to ask if you think that the church at large has missed a lot of the positive aspects of laying on a fence.

Now, in the aspect of the church, you know, when ministry and things like that, from my experience in churches, they still lay hands on people. When I was ordained, hands were laid on me, on my head. And it's ordained into Christian ministry.

So it's still done. And sometimes we'll pray for people in a group. You know, there might be someone who's going out on a mission field, or someone going into a really grave surgery. And we'll say, let's pray. And we'll lay hands on the person and pray.

And stuff like that. And Christopher says. Yeah. It's still done. The scripture says the lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.

Right. James 5. You know, I've seen that.

So, um, Okay, well, God bless and have a good day. Thanks, Bob. Sure. You too. No problem, man.

God bless.

Okay. All right. Well, that was easy. And now let's get back to how about some more More questions? Let's see.

Okay, get rid of that one from the last thing, and uh oh, it's a long one, let's see. Thank you for the source of karm. Uh I'm looking for Oh, that's a recommendation for a book. How about this question? Why does Jesus pray to God if he is God?

Because he's a different person than the Father. And he's under the law and incarnate. And so, being under the law, Galatians 4:4, he's obligated to pray to someone God, and that would be the Father. And that's why, because he's made under the law. Uh because he's obligated to follow that law.

Let's try this one. Is there a demon associated with accidents? Not that I'm aware of. But demonic forces can certainly contribute to accidents. In fact, it reminds me of my novel that I wrote.

The influence. There's a scene in which the main character's wife, Kathy, is driving on a freeway, and a demonic force is sent to destroy her. And this is, you know, just a scene. And it describes them coming up on the freeway to a neighboring car where the guy's an unbeliever. And so they're able to work in his mind and his heart and do stuff to try and cause an accident.

And I describe that in the novel and stuff like that. Not that it makes it true, but I certainly believe that it's possible that demonic influences can bring about accidents and things like that. All right. How about Can a false Jesus cast out demons? No.

Spirit lessons. Whatever book, baptized by whatever.

Okay, so there can be, okay, can, let's say, a Mormon. A Mormon is not a true Christian because they teach God came from another planet and that there's a goddess wife and that Jesus is the brother of the devil. And this is not the true God, not the true Christ.

Now, Let's just say, and I could put it this way. Since the Mormon church is an example, I'm be careful how I say this. A lot of Mormons might be listening. But it's not a Christian church. Even though they say they believe in Jesus of the Bible, they don't.

We can go into all this. You can call me sometime. You can talk. The official Mormon doctrine is not the same doctrine as the scripture. They just use the same words with different definitions.

So if you have someone who's believing that Jesus and the devil and us are all brothers and sisters in the preexistence, which is clearly not biblical. And someone like that tries to cast out a demonic force in the name of Jesus. All would be necessary is a demonic force to mimic being cast out in order to convince the Mormons that he's in the truth. by the power of Christ.

So that it could be a great deception. because they're incredibly deceptive. And so that would be one of the ways that it could appear that a false group could cast out demonic forces.

Now, on the other hand, In the book of Acts. They cast out demons And the demons beat him up. Because they did it by the power of the name of Jesus. And this is in Acts 19. That's right, Acts 19.

And in Acts 19, there were people who, the seven sons of Skiva, a Jewish chief priest, was there. And they cast the demonic forces out by the power of the name of Jesus.

Now he says, by the name of Jesus who Paul preaches.

So it was an appeal to the actual Jesus, the real one. And well, they were cast out because the name of Christ is where the power is, not in a church organization or authority and things like that.

So it could certainly appear to be that. In fact, in Matthew 7, 22 and 23, Jesus says, Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, do we not prophesy in your name, perform many miracles, and cast out demons in your name? He says, Get away from me, I never knew you, you workers of evil.

So they were able to do it, even though they weren't Christians. And they could do it by the power of the name of Jesus Christ. If they believe in the true Jesus. They can do that, even though they may not acknowledge him as the true Savior and be completely born again.

So there's a little bit of nuances in that, but that's what I would say: is that. It can certainly appear that they can do it. Just as the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church can certainly appear to cast out demonic forces, but it's either by the power of the authority of Christ's name or it's a demonic deception to make people think that those churches are true. All right, there you go.

So we're out of time. There's the music in a second or two, and may the Lord bless you and by His grace, put back on the air tomorrow. Lord dwelling. I hope you all had a great 4th of July. I did.

It was great. Wife and I went over to a friend's house, had a good time. Hope you guys did too. And. Have a great evening and by God's grace, back on your tomorrow.

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