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The Matt Slick Live -Broadcast of 02-12-2024- is a production of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry -CARM-. Matt answers questions on topics like The Bible, Apologetics, Theology, World Religions, Atheism, and other issues- -You can also email questions to Matt using-, Put -Radio Show Question- in the Subject line- Answers will be discussed in a future show.--MSL- February 12, 2024--Today's Topics Include---Christians and Social Discernment--Jesus casts out Demons--Deliverance Ministries----Progressive Sanctification--God's Forgiveness--MSL- February 12, 2024


The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick live. Francis, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick live.

Today's date is, let's see, February 12th, 2024. If you want to give me a call, all you got to do is dial 877-207-2276. Real easy to do. And if you want, you can email me.

That's easy also. Just direct your email to info at, info at And put in the subject line, put in a radio comment or radio question. We're broadcasting simulcast, besides regular radio waves, we are also doing to, we're going to rumble, so you can go to forward slash Matt Slick live.

That would work. And let me look at all that good stuff there. Just doing a lot of good stuff. And actually what I was referring to just now is looking at some graphics generating for, I'll be in, I will be in, let's see, Sandy, Utah, this Friday night at five o'clock speaking on the Trinity at the Utah Christian Research Ministry. And you can go there, Utah Christian, let me make sure I get it right. I think it's on the calendar too on KARM. So the Utah Christian Research Center, that's what it is, Christian, Utah Christian research I'll be there at five o'clock speaking on the Trinity and then the next morning at nine o'clock on what it is we need to do to know how to defend our faith. And so if you're interested in that, you can go to Utah Christian Research Center, Utah Christian Research Center.

I wonder if they have, what they got that goes forward to it. I wonder, and nope, it doesn't. So there you go. Hey, why don't you give me a call?

Eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. All right. So my brother was here. He lives on the Eastern side of the state and he came out for three days. We did some brother stuff, you know, checking things out. And he has a friend from Southern California where we used to live.

And the friend has already moved up here three years ago. So we went and saw him. And I, you know, I I've seen him too, but I don't remember too much about him. He goes, Hey man, how you doing? And so, uh, not a big deal. Okay. So they were going to have a shindig for the Superbowl at their house.

And I don't watch sports, you know, I just don't have any interest. And my brother said, you know, and my, his friend said, Hey, well, Matt, you're welcome to come on. And I thought, you know, I need to do social stuff, meet people. And, uh, so I would, I went for, I was there for an hour and then I had to run some errands for my wife and do some stuff. So what I found interesting, uh, was, um, this house had, I don't know, 15 people in it, 20 people in it. And so I'm hiding, so to speak in the back towards the kitchen and, uh, just watching and listening, I'm fine. You know, all the couches and the chairs are taken.

So my brother and I are standing in the back and people are still our left standing, you know, it's no big deal. And I started paying attention to the, uh, this is before the game. I started paying attention to their language and their attitudes and their topics. And the more I listened, the more obvious it was to me of how ungodly they were. And I'm not denouncing them, I'm not mocking them, not condemning them.

It's just that it became evident. There are two worlds. I live in one, they live in another, their world is the secular world. And in that secular world, drinking and cussing and using God's name in vain and, uh, foul language is used and sexual promiscuity in the secular world and the realm and going after money and retirement so that you can just enjoy your own life and, and, uh, how different it was from the, uh, the attitude that I have, and I'm not mocking them, I'm not saying I'm better than that, but that's not the case. It's just that being a Christian and living as, as a Christian for so long. And the friends that I have are Christians. And if we had met over one of our Christian friends house for, uh, you know, to watch the super bowl and they didn't invite me over because they know, they know I generally don't do stuff like that, you know, um, so, uh, if we had gone there, you know, we might've prayed beforehand, uh, you know, uh, we were eating and we've been talking about the things of the Lord, there wouldn't have been any cussing and swearing and, uh, um, using the Lord's name in vain. Anyway, it's not a big deal and I'm certainly not condemning anybody.

You know, it's just the difference of what comes out of the heart. And it was just so obvious to me. And I'm so grateful for God's mercy upon me. I'm so grateful that he decided in his great mercy to save me from my sins. And, you know, there go I, you know, except for the grace of God. You know, except for the grace of God and just saved by his grace and kept by his grace and, uh, I mean, it was just interesting. And then it came home and, uh, and my wife wasn't feeling that well.

So we hung out and, uh, we, she said, do you want to watch the, uh, the halftime? Oh man, it was horrible about you, but, uh, as far as I'm concerned that they call it music, if I want to say, it's no good. I say, I could have written that. And, uh, it, it, there was no real melody to it. There was it. Sorry, but I was not impressed. I said, okay, she finally goes, okay, you can turn it and go click, you know? And, uh, my wife's more interested in sports than I am.

So I wouldn't be watching documentaries and stuff like that. I liked stuff like that. But I know I got issues. Hey, look, if you want to, uh, want to give me a call, uh, 8 7 7 2 0 7 2 2 7 6. Let's get to John from Raleigh, North Carolina. John welcome.

You're on the air. Hello, Matt. Hello.

One minute here. Oh, Hey buddy. I was just thinking about you today. Like, Oh, I got to call them. So what's that?

What's that? I've been calling you all weekend, but that's okay. I know I, my brother was here and I actually, last week I was exceedingly stressed and I chose to not do much and I'm finally coming out of it. Yeah. So that's all that's really good.

You and I parallel each other that way. But, uh, are you also really good looking? Uh, I don't have your hair though.

I even put in, I am, I am, uh, I covet your hair. Okay. So that's good.

So, uh, I didn't catch it, but then I just caught the rerun of the wash the feet commercial last night, uh, the super bowl and it, uh, uh, you know, Jesus doesn't want us to hate. Oh, I did see that part. Yeah. Crazy. It just completely, uh, the, uh, impressions on, yeah, well, it is, as Ben put out, it's surfer, surfer Jesus point of view and, um, not happy. Yeah. I was, I remember that part I was, uh, I couldn't hear the commercial because there was a ladies next to me talking really loudly to their husbands across the room. And, um, so yeah, when it said, I said, Jesus never taught hate.

I went, yes, he did. That's it. Yep. Yeah.

Sell your coat, get a sword. Yeah, that's right. And he actually said, you know, you must hate your mother and your father and follow me. Yeah. And, uh, you know, and you know, he did teach love. Okay.

That's absolutely true, but it's not the case that he never taught, uh, any form of hate at all, uh, where to hate evil. All right. And he says, anyway, yeah, he, so I just thought it was bad, you know, that, Oh man, who are these amateurs, you know, whatever. Yeah, indeed. So that's about it. Uh, but you did get my message about, uh, gathering up a video to suck in to the, uh, AI.

Yes. Um, we have got to talk. I've got, I had the end of year stuff I have to do for Karm as a ministry and it's, it's like, I got to talk to the guy who can help me through it.

It's a, there's just so much, so much on my plate. So what I'm going to do is, uh, that, and then I think I just got to just force myself, call you and go, okay, look, where were we, what are we doing? Let's talk, you know, and, and, uh, stuff like that. So, yeah. Now, when you do the one minute videos, do you capture them at four at four K at the highest resolution and then you knock them down? I don't know because, uh, I do them in, um, I have been doing them in, um, and, uh, oh man, uh, OBS using your Sony though. Right. Oh yeah. You're going to use OBS.

It depends. I'm going to try some different things I've got going. So one of the things I want to do, like I've got a video I want to do on, uh, on reasons to leave a church. And I wrote it up and I released it, but I want to do a video on it.

You'd meet sitting here in the chair and then having something in stream yard, I can share the screen and go back and forth. That's one way. Sometimes I do the single minute videos and I go, it goes to OBS. I don't know what the output is.

I think it's pretty high though. And then I want to, I go into my, I have a camera, a really nice camera. I want to do that in two cameras though. So you get different angles.

That's what they say you need, but only have one. So, uh, right now, and then start doing that and then put it in Vegas and then edit it and stuff like that. So yeah, it's just a, it's just a lot of work, a lot of work I got to do.

They're not whining. It's just, man, there's a lot of work. If we get this done, right, it's going to take all that away because, uh, if you look at the other video I sent, the AI is going to take your gestures in. So you just don't want, don't want to have pointing, but just kind of fluid gestures.

We could do a standup, a sit behind the desk and then a torso. And then you just put them in, uh, and you'll be able to redress them afterward. But the whole thing is that it's looking at your eyebrows, your eyes, and you know, your facial expressions. And they just want a two minute video with pauses between your, your sentences. And after that, then it's just put your text in, put the data in and boom, boom, boom. You're going to save all that video time. Video time. You just have to construct it like a PT.

So hopefully save you hundreds of hours, but I purchased the first month so that we can get that in. And, uh, I'll call you the avatar. Okay. I'm going to call you tonight. Okay. And if I don't call you in a couple of hours, just call me.

What's that? Okay. Just call me when I call you. Okay. I'm sorry.

Say it one more time. We're okay. Well, we'll figure it out. Okay. Good. All right. Have a great night. Talk to you later.

You too, John. God bless. All right. Yeah.

Oh man. I'm trying to use tech. I'm trying to use tech as much as I can. In fact, I got so much to do that I'm working on a PowerPoint slide between the three breaks here. I'm working on stuff. I got so much to do, which is good. Hey, Alberto from Georgia. Welcome. You are on the air.

Well, good evening, Matt Slick. My question is, uh, Mark chapter one, verse 34, where they say that the people brought the sick and the demon possessed to Jesus. My question is when the people brought the demon possessed to Jesus, what, how come they were never attacked by the demon possessed?

If they were, if they were demon possessed. Well, we got a break coming up. So who's the, they, who's the, they that you're talking about, but answer that when we get back after the break. Okay. Let's talk about a couple of things. We were, okay, let's talk about after the break. Hey folks, you'd want to give me a call.

We have three open lines, three out of four. And if you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. All right, let's get back on with Alberto.

All right, Alberto. So why did they attack the people around him? No, why did the demons that they brought the demons possessed to Jesus, why did the demons attack the people who were bringing them to him?

But don't know. Maybe Jesus just cast them out and they had to obey him and they went where they were. Maybe they went back to the place.

It doesn't know what I said before. They got the text that they brought the demon possessed to Jesus. The Bible never says how far they walk to bring them to Jesus.

They've been a mile, two miles. Okay, I get you. Usually, usually when we see the idea, you know, countering demon possession, it's different different kinds. Some are violent, some are self-destructive and not destructive to others. So who knows what kind it was?

Okay, it's just what it is. But there were several of them. Okay, there was several demon possessed. So there were different types of demons. So we don't know as a scripture specifically say what type of word.

So, right. So we can't say too much. You know, it's probably just either the kind that didn't really attack people individually or Jesus sent them out into, you know, commanded them to go someplace and they had to obey or whatever.

You know, it doesn't say. But the point that he's bringing up, because he's not permitting the demons to speak. So he had control over them in Mark 1 34. So he knew, they knew he was, he didn't want to realize that people didn't know who he was quite yet. That's what's going on. All right. So basically he only wanted the disciples to know really the close ones near to him to know who he was, not the regular population of the Jewish people, right?

Yes. And generally, uh, what I believe about that and the reason is, is because, um, it wasn't his time to die yet. And if they had continued to show who he was or he would reveal the, the prophecies might not have been able to have been fulfilled the way they were supposed to be so that he worked it so that the prophecies would be true and fulfilled by him. And it wasn't his time to die yet.

And it'd be done according to the Passover and things like that. Okay. Uh, I mean, that's what you're telling me is probably, it's not really backed up by scripture. It's all speculation basically, right? I couldn't hear you say it again.

What would you tell them? Is that completely backed up, completed by scripture? Is it speculation? Mostly you're saying, are you telling me or is it just speculation? What is speculation? I just read what was there.

Wait, I know what you just, you just told me. So it's not really backed up specifically by scripture, but basically it's just speculation. If you assume that's the reason why he didn't permit them to speak the demons. Yeah. He just had control over them and doesn't say specifically why.

And so all we can do is kind of guesstimate and say, well, it looks like this, looks like that. And that's about it. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you. Okay. All right. You're welcome. God bless.

All right. Hey folks, if you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276 and we don't have anybody waiting right now. So I'm thinking what I'll do is get in some Q and A, some questions and stuff like that.

And, uh, Oh boy. I will not be on the air live Friday, just an FYI. I'll be speaking at, uh, the Utah Christian Research Center and, uh, in Sandy. And you could, if you want to check it out, you can go to and I think I'm gonna make sure I'm pretty sure it's on the calendar.

We have so many things going on here. So, uh, on the Karm calendar that is. So let me just do Karm forward slash calendar. The reason I'm saying it is if people are in the area, because I know that the radio show here is broadcast down there. And so if you are interested in checking it out, you can, uh, it's, I have it listed there or it is listed there for what does it take to defend the Christian faith and Utah Christian Research Center. And that's on February 17th, but on the 16th, I'll be in the same place, uh, speaking at five o'clock. And so you can check things out.

There has, uh, uh, it has seats and stuff like that. Yeah, good. So I'm going to be, uh, I'm going to Lord willing, uh, do I have a PowerPoint slide set up and I'm going to do handouts so that I can hand out people. It's not gonna be like great. I mean, don't worry about it, but I'm gonna do handouts.

I'm going to teach on the Trinity on Friday night and I'm going to go from light to a little bit of heavy deep and then open it up to Q and A for whoever's there. And then afterwards go out and get some dinner or something like that. So there you go. And if you go to car and better road forward slash calendar, uh, that will, that's all you gotta do. Okay. All right. So there you go.

Oops. Okay. All right. So if you want to give me a call, like I said, 877-207-2276. I want to hear from you.

Give me a call. All right. Let's get to some hate mail here and, uh, we can talk about, I can go through some of the hate mail that's there. All right.

All right. Let's see. Or actually I have to just raise up radio questions. Let's do some of the radio questions. Um, so let's go down to some older ones.

Here we go. What's up with some Christians being so obsessed with celebrating the feast of booths and traveling to Israel for that they mix in that it's so it's to bless Israel and teach that Israel is God's chosen people. Well, people can celebrate the feast and want to go to Israel because it's kind of a cool thing to do. I don't know their individual motives. I wouldn't say that are denying the sufficiency of the gospel, but if people want to go do that and they want to go over there, I think it's a fun thing.

I've been to Israel a couple of times and thoroughly enjoyed it. And so, uh, you know, I just, it's all it is. It's not a big deal. If they want to do that, I think that's fine. You could do that too. So, um, other than that, I'm not sure. You know, all right, let's see if we're going to give me a call 877-207-2276. Let's get to another question here.

How about this? Um, I know that Jesus is coming back, but I hear it is the second coming. Yes, that's right. Because the first one is when he came back from, I mean, he, uh, he, uh, you know, the first time he was here during his incarnation and the second coming of Christ is when he comes back and he, you know, it'll be, it'll be rough. It's going to be rough because he's going to, uh, judge people and they're going to have to deal with who he is and what he's got.

So, uh, in his judgment, that's coming to them. So anyway, if you want, uh, to know more about that, I've written some articles on this as well, so you can check things out on there. All right, now let me get to some of these questions here.

So, uh, wouldn't this be considered his third coming since he was born as a baby, then rose from the dead and said to his father, uh, no, that the ascension is not his, his return. So it's not what it is. Okay. All right.

All right. And this is what I think is interesting. There's only going to be, uh, one return of Christ. Now this affects the idea of the return of Christ, the rapture and things like that. The rapture and things like that, because if he's only going to return once, then what happens for the idea of the pre-tribulation rapture?

So does he return partially and in the clouds and then goes back to heaven and then returns for a third time and he creates or does his stuff in judgment then that's one of the questions they have to ask and deal with. There's the music. If you want to give me a call 877-207-2276. We'll be right back after these messages. Give me a call.

I want to hear from you. We'll be right back. All right, buddy. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. All right. Let's get on the air with Clarice from North Carolina.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How are you doing this evening? Oh, hanging in there. Just working and doing stuff, lots of stuff. Sound like you needed your cup of coffee.

Oh, I had my cup of coffee this morning and got some tea next to me. Our big cat. I forgot he was in the room there for a bit.

We have a purebred Russian Maine Coon that was given to us. That's another story. And so he's like 20 pounds and he's not overweight at all. He's just big. So he's on my chest during the last part of the show.

So I had to get him out during the break. And other than that, that's it. Okay, well, here's my question. Do you believe the Bible teaches that a Christian that's been born again can be possessed by a demon and needs, quote, deliverance, unquote, from that demon? And if so, what is the difference in that and a stronghold that's mentioned in Second Corinthians 10? If people tell you that a Christian would even possess and need to be delivered, that's a very dangerous false doctrine.

It just doesn't happen. So what I'm going to do is go to Matthew, let's see, Matthew 1243, I believe it is. Yes. I'm going to read this.

I'm going to get my Bible and turn there. Okay. All right. No problem at all.

While you're reading that, I just want to have the scripture written down or look at it myself. Absolutely. Okay.

All right. So now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, that's demon possession, it passes through waterless places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, I will return to my house from which I came. And when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order.

Unoccupied, swept and put in order. There's nothing else in there. Okay. I'm hearing a lot of clanking back there.

So you got a lot of clanking going on. I'm sorry. I stopped. I stopped.

Okay. Then it goes and takes along with its seven other spirits more wicked than itself. And they go in and live there.

And the last days of the man becomes worse than the first. So the implication is, well, it finds it empty so it can go in. So the corollary is if the Holy Spirit's there, it can't go in.

So no, Christians cannot be demon possessed. Okay. Okay.

Well, have you heard of quote deliverance, unquote ministries going on? Yes. Oh, yeah. And they're dangerous. You have. They're dangerous. Yep, absolutely.

In what way? Well, what they do often is destroy people, make them worse, open them up to demonic oppression, cause emotional trauma. So what happens is, and I'll exaggerate to make the point. Let's say there's a man and a woman, and I know about these from local areas and stuff.

And I've talked to people and stuff. A man and a woman in the deliverance ministry, they go over to a party. There's a bunch of Christians there. And then they, they have an insight to one Christian there.

You know, you've got a demon attached to you and hopefully it's not in you. I do? How do you know?

Well, we just were aware of these things. I do. Well, what do I do? Well, let's meet and we'll talk about it. So they meet a week later and the couple comes over and this, uh, this Christian comes over and the Christian says, well, what's, what's up with that? You got a demon in you.

Yeah, we can tell. Well, what do I do to get rid of it? Well, what you have to do is confess all sorts of your sins from the past and trust us to be able to heal you and get it out. And then we'll give you other things you have to do in order to maintain your position and make, make sure it doesn't come back in. So now this person is under the control of these, these wackos. And this is kind of thing that happens.

Okay. Well, I know someone, um, whose family member, uh, believed, believed she is saved and she had had a, I'm going to say stronghold, cause that's the term I use because in second Corinthians 10, I know the enemy can build strongholds in us with unconfessed sin in our lives. Um, but she had watched or heard of this quote deliverance unquote ministry, and she had, um, prayed by herself. No, no pastor, nobody's there with her and was praying by herself. And I don't know what she was praying, but she was praying for deliverance to get rid of this, whatever was possessing, attacking her internally. And she did, and she told her relatives that she felt it leave her. And there was a cat in the room and the cat was watching it and saw it leave whatever type of spirit that was. And she has been totally different in her life. And, um, so what would you say if this person was talking to you and she told you that story? I'd say, show me in the scriptures where a Christian can have a demonic force inhabiting their soul other than the Lord God. Show it to me. Well, they separate, uh, listen, cause I agree with you.

Separate soul and spirit. I totally agree with you. Yeah, they do. Yeah. And they'll say, welcome to be in the spirit. Okay.

Then fine. Show me where it can be in a Christian's spirit. Show it to me in scripture. And they can't.

It's not there. They might go to Peter where Peter says, no, Jesus, don't do this. He says, get away from me. Satan goes, see, he was possessed by Satan. It doesn't say he was possessed by Satan. It says that he did not have the interest in Christ and they were ultimately demonic and he addressed them that way.

It doesn't mean he's possessed by the devil. These people are amateur theologians who are dangerous. They're amateurs.

They don't know what they're doing. They misread scripture. Now, what if someone says, well, I know something left me. Well, you have an experience, but I'm going to go with scripture. Nothing in scripture says that a Christian could be demon possessed, nothing. So you have to convince me from scripture that that's the case. And then one possibility is the person wasn't saved to begin with. Better possibility is they're just self-deceived. There are possibilities. There could be a demonic influence external to that person.

We have to look into doors and things like that to see what's going on. Okay. Well, I agree with you. I agree with you because I'm always show it to me in the Bible.

Where does it say that? Because when God saves me and I was into a lot of, a lot of different things when God saved me, not demonic, you know, I wasn't worshiping Satan, but I was into drugs and alcohol and a lot of things. And I've been saved for 43 years and I've never wanted to go back to that.

I've never had to deal with any type of fear or any encounter that I had back then now. And that's 43 years. So that's what I have to go by what God did for me. Right. And we've got to be careful. We have to be careful because we can certainly have incredible experiences. When I got saved, I had an incredible, I mean, dramatically, tremendously incredible experience. I still judge it by scripture. That's it.

I don't care how strong. So do I. So do I. And so this, this woman has to do the same thing. All things passed away. All things became this. Right. Now, if she says a cat saw it, well, what does that mean?

A cat watched something move through the air. Well, it could be a demonic oppression and Christians can certainly have demonic forces around them. And certainly that could happen. So we had to be careful because the demonic forces are exceedingly brilliant. So let's just say, for example, that this woman has emotional, mental difficulties through traumas or whatever, she's not sure of this or that, whatever, and she's being oppressed demonically for whatever reason, lots of reasons for that, but whatever reason, and he's this demon, demonic force is not possessing her. It's just got a hold, a stronghold, as we could talk about. And then she prays and the, the bondage is broken and it, it leaves, it's gone from her.

And let's say, hypothetically, a cat could see that cat move. It never says, never means that she was possessed. It just means that there was an attachment for whatever reason. And it's left. See, we have to stick with scripture.

We have to stick with scripture and when it says what it says in Matthew 12, 43 through 45, I think it is, I don't find anything in the Bible that says a Christian would even possess. And I'm sorry, but that's what they have to show me. If they can't show me, then you can't, you're making more noises. And if it doesn't say that, then we can't do it.

We can't affirm it. Okay. Well, I believe you. And I agree with you. So thank you for sharing and sorry for the background noise effect. I'm making dinner while I'm talking. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Cause I, I'm more sensitive, I'm sensitive to those noises, but what I'm concerned about is people driving on the road, hearing clicking sounds and things. Because when I drive, I hear a weird noise when I'm driving, it folk, it causes me to focus and not pay attention to the traffic. I'm listening to what that noise is. And so that's what I'm thinking. Safety. Oh, no, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I'll meet my phone next time I call in. Well, what are you making for dinner? What are you making though? Well, we can green beans every summer from our garden.

So I'm making some green beans that were canned about four years ago and some rice and gravy and chicken and rolls. And yeah, when they come over for dinner, I do invite me. I'll, I'll, I'll come on right over. Okay. There's the break. We got to go though. My husband worked hard.

He deserves a good meal. Okay. Okay. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Everybody. Welcome back to the show. Last segment of the hour. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. And if by any chance you're watching the show, then you've seen our huge cat that, uh, I forgot was in the office here and jumped up on the desk.

And anyway, he's a big cat. So, uh, I'm going to get on the air. I mean, uh, get on with some questions here, radio questions and comments. And, uh, all right. So this is, uh, Carrie says, uh, this is way back. I squint went way back this back, uh, from last year, someone suggested to me that progressive sanctification isn't biblical.

What do you say? And what is the opposing position? It would depend on what he defines as progressive sanctification, that it's all about definitions. So what is meant generally for, I understand sanctification. Sanctification is the process of becoming more like Christ. And so we progress and increase in our sanctification. And so in that sense, well, yeah, we are progressing in our sanctification.

We're becoming more Christ-like. And so, uh, I don't have a problem with that. Now, justification on the other hand simply means that, uh, we're, you know, that's instantaneous. It's not progressive.

And the false religions teaches progressive like Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox. So, uh, the other than that, I'm not sure what they mean by it. So it all comes down as I say that so frequently, uh, that it depends on the definition. So, okay. I'm actually putting that in my notes as an, as an article to write. I may have already written on it. This is one of the things I've written so many articles, like 6,000 that I put a list together of articles I need to check out.

And then I have to go make sure I didn't already write an article on it before. All right. So there's that one. Let's try another one. Um, let's see. Nobody's waiting.

Okay. So I know someone who's in the military during a war and he killed people. He doesn't feel it's forgivable by God. He seems to be avoiding God, but he is seeking.

How would you help somebody understand that God will forgive us? Um, yeah, I've talked to, uh, people in the military, uh, at some, about 10, 12 years ago, there were some guys that we knew from a local base about 40 miles away. And they, uh, one guy, one guy focused on one guy. He, uh, had been in some serious combat and I would never ask him any questions about it because it's just not appropriate to do that with the guys who've served. And we, however, did get on the conversation of the forgivableness of having killed people. And he didn't admit he did or didn't.

And it was one of those conversations. And, uh, I said, in a time of war, you do what you have to do. And you are, it's so I'm not saying it's, Hey, it's okay to kill people.

And that's not what I'm saying, but it's certainly a forgivable and justifiable thing. If the war is just, if the war is not just, that's another issue. Then you have the issue of what do you do as I know happened in Vietnam war that GIs would be going into a village and they would just kill people. They weren't even combatants. They just kill them.

They were so jaded. Now that's murder. Now, can that be forgiven?

Absolutely. The basis that we know that God forgives is because there's only one sin that's unforgivable. That's blasphemy of the Holy Spirit spoken of in Matthew 12, 22 through 32. And we know that David, um, David and Goliath, you know, David, he committed adultery with Bathsheba and he seduced her, she got pregnant and then tried to make it look as though her husband had gotten her pregnant by having him come back from the battles that he was fighting.

And then when that didn't work, he had him killed, put him on the front end. Now that's, it's really bad. This is really bad. This is really bad and so, uh, God forgave him. And if God can forgive him that he could forgive any man and or woman who has been in battle and has dropped bombs from 30,000 feet or whatever, flown in helicopters, shot people on the ground, have shot people, um, in battleships, shooting, and you know, people are dying from what you're doing, all kinds of different reasons. And what I would say, if any of you are in that situation where you don't talk about it and you're just, it hurts, it's buried, you press it away, you feel bad about it. Maybe some of you know that you're already forgiven.

Maybe some of you know you're, believe it or not. Well, just as a woman who might have an abortion and kill the child within her, that is forgivable. The blood is far greater than anything that we can do. And you have to understand that the love of Christ is greater than the purposeful, justified killing, the accidental, justified killing, the accidental unjustified killing, and the deliberate unjustified killing. All of it, all of it can be forgiven by the Lord Jesus Christ. You just go to him, you just ask him, you just confess it, you just talk to him about it and you may have to do it a hundred times until you finally realize that he's forgiven you already. It may be because of guilt that sometimes what we do when we face something like this is what we do is we guilt whip ourselves because we want to feel bad about what we did because it can't be that easy to go and just be forgiven. No, we have to be punished, and so we guilt whip ourselves and can't receive the forgiveness of Christ. So which is a greater sin, to do that or to have killed somebody in different circumstances? I asked a question because sure, varying killings, murders, varying degrees, it's wrong and it's forgivable, but if we're to trust in Christ and believe in what Christ has done on the cross, in the power of his blood, and he says, ask me anything in my name and I will do it, and we go to him and we say, please forgive me, and we don't feel forgiven, that doesn't mean you're not because truth is not dependent upon your feelings and the forgiveness of Christ is not made real by your action, by your sincerity, you appeal to God because he's given you the faith, Philippians 1, 29, that faith is in Christ, John 6, 29, therefore that faith that comes from God is good enough, and with that faith, you approach that throne, you approach that throne, even if you have to weep in the process, and you confess what you did, and you lay before the throne and you choose to be forgiven, you choose to acknowledge it, you choose to receive it, you may not feel it, but it's what you have to do, because that's what you must do, and I know what that is, because when I was younger, and I rarely ever talk about this, but I've written about it, it's on the website, when I was younger, I got involved with a girl, long story short, abortion, and I remember when I was dedicated to Christ, remembering that, I could not receive the forgiveness, I would not allow myself to do that, because I needed to be punished, because I realized what I had done, and I needed, I just needed to be disciplined so I could feel better about being forgiven, and of all things, it was my wife before we got married, her roommate, and my wife had to go work, she worked in the evenings as a waitress at the time, and at the house, and there was other ladies there, she had three roommates I think, and so it wasn't that this one woman and I were alone together, but we ended up talking, and she was a Christian of course, and she, we got talking about this, and she said, Matt, you need to receive the forgiveness, you need to trust in it, and I said I can't, because of the guilt, and it took maybe an hour of her saying the same thing over and over, she says you're not trusting Christ, you gotta trust him, he's already forgiven it, he's already loved you, it's already gone, and I wanted to weep, because I was so guilty, and she kept saying the same thing over and over again, it's alright, it's done, it's forgiven, he's done it, you need to trust it, and I had to hear it spoken to me countless times, before finally I let it go, and put it into the hands of Christ, and then I knew that he took it away, and threw it away, and so I know I'm forgiven, and this kind of a thing is what we go through sometimes as adults, regrets of our sins in the past, some of them are very serious, but you have to understand that Christ is God, the creator, his blood is of infinite value, and your sins pale in comparison to the greatness of his love, and the power of his blood to cleanse and to forgive, and you have to learn to receive it, and to rest in it, and sometimes you have to choose to, because it's by faith that we live in him, and to beat yourself up over it so much, even though that's what you deserve, isn't what's right, because if he's forgiven, and he's removed the sins as far as the east is from the west, why are you holding on to what he's already gotten rid of, and that's the thing, and it's hard, but let me tell you, there's freedom in that forgiveness, there's freedom in it, but I'll tell you also, the pain will never leave you until we're in heaven, on this side it never leaves, because you remember and you know, but associated with it is forgiveness, because you realize how good and how great he is, what he can do, and so that's what you have to do, for those who are in war, those who've killed, those who have had abortions, those who have done horrible things that I haven't mentioned, it doesn't matter, that God is so good, the person of Christ is so good, he'll forgive you, just go ask him, go ask him, that's all he asks, he doesn't ask you to do a bunch of work to make up for it, because that's just not how it works, you have to trust in him because he did everything, and the funny thing is, he's loved you even knowing about that, and he'll receive you and forgive you, even though he's known everything about you and everything that you've done, no matter how many times, this is how good he is, so you have to trust in him, that's good theology, and it's good for your heart as well, so trust him, I did, with love, I did with love, with that, and with other things, but we learned from them, but we also learned how great Christ is, and that our sin pales in comparison with his greatness, amen and amen. There's the music, may the Lord bless you, I hope that you enjoyed the show, and by his grace I will be back on there tomorrow, and we'll talk to you then, so have a good evening everyone, God bless, bye.
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