Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at karm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick live for answers. Taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

You can find him at karm.org. And now we're on the air. Hey folks, if you want to give me a call, all you gotta do is dial 877-207-2276. And I want to hear from you. Last night I did a Bible study on eschatology. It became interesting. And I'm actually thinking about doing something different on eschatological view.

And doing something inside of PowerPoint and doing an actual long presentation. And it'll take me a few weeks to present that, or get it ready to present. I'll probably end up doing that. And let's see, what else? If you want to give me a call, like I said, 877-207-2276. I want to hear from you. Now on Fridays, a lot of times what I'll do, if things are a little bit slow because Fridays are like that, I'll do hate mail. So I spent some time before the show going through some of the hate mail.

And I thought I'd read some of them and have a little bit of fun with them. And as I like, I got issues here, but I like hate mail. I get a kick out of it when people email me and say stuff and insult me and call me names. And I don't know what it is about me, but I like it. I get a kick out of it. And people have been commenting lately that they want me to do hate mail. They enjoy it. I've even had people call up and request it on the air. So I'm going to do a little bit right now while we're waiting for people to give me a call.

877-207-2276. Check this out. What do Matt Slick and Joseph Smith have in common? Apart from being in apostasy and misrepresenting Christian message, they both had a vision of God, which they both assume was a real God, appearing to them. I never said I had a vision of God. I've never claimed that's never been the case. I had once a profound experience of his presence, but I've never had a vision of him. I wish people would get it right. You know, if you're going to insult me, do it with facts.

No, it's wrong. And he says, hi, there's a real God appearing, not a demon, not an angel from heaven, et cetera. I'm amazed that you are so quickly forsaking. Oh, he quotes scripture. Every astray Christian movement and group claims that this, that is the pastor will claim I've had a vision of Christ and he spoke to me. Well, I don't know about that. Not every one of them that I'm aware of teaches that, but I certainly never had a vision of Christ.

I wish I did. How do we justify the vision corresponds with the true factual teachings of Christ? Okay, there you go. You see misinformation.

Oh, he must be a leftist. Here's another one. I'll just say his first name, Keith, and all so-called ministers, pastors, pastors, bishops, and whatever. I can't say everything he says here.

They proclaim themselves are full of, and I can't, and will be held accountable. There you go. So somebody just calls, just writes that. Okay, here's another one. Hi. Jesus says, don't even think that I have come to do with the law. So that means you folks who believe Paul instead of Jesus, that makes all of you anti-Christ.

Wow. You know, there's a question about that. Did Paul and Jesus teach the same thing? And the answer is yes.

Now here's another question. Is Paul just as inspired as Jesus? And the answer is yes, because Jesus is God in flesh and Paul and Peter and John and Matthew, et cetera, were all inspired by God. And so it's all an equal level of inspiration and truth. Paul and Jesus don't contradict each other. All right. They don't contradict each other. And a lot of people don't get that.

They think we just follow Paul and not Jesus, but I can find, I can show you justification by faith alone in Jesus' teachings very easily, just like Paul teaches. Anyway, here, how about this one? Let's, oh, oh, okay. Now put your seat belts on folks, because we have another one from Zator. Now every now and then we get this Zatorian message. Zator. Okay.

What is Zator? Well, let's just say he doesn't have all his celestial paws in the litter box. This is what he says.

Greetings to our human cousin. The celestial elements, which propose diagnostic confirmation to disorganized thought processes rests upon prophetic uncertainty. What does that mean?

I have no clue. The book contains past and future happenings related to your planet's capabilities, capabilities to indirectly affect the universe and surrounding universes. Now, when people write to me stuff like this, you know, the universe by definition is everything that exists.

You go left, right, up, down, as far as you can go. That's the universe. So now he says that our universe and the surrounding universes, but that doesn't make any sense.

It just doesn't make sense. Anyway, the darkness that surrounds your planet has positive potential. Oh, that's good to know. We pass through your outer circle quite frequently. Yeah.

I guess on his way to get the meds. We fend off evil, so no harm will come from that passage. You harm yourselves enough. Your burden is our burden. As we watch and wait for your spiritual awakening through the eyes of master Zator, it is our desire.

Oh, they go to scripture too. It is our desire to prepare you for the journey. You have been chosen due to your bold and fearless stance in defending the book. You have proven to be an erudite scholar in your dimensional realm and or of knowledge. Hey, I'm an erudite scholar in my dimensional realm of knowledge. That's always good to know. I was wondering about that. I was at my wife a couple of days ago. Hey, I'm trying to figure it out.

Am I an erudite scholar in my dimensional realm of knowledge? And she looked at me like something was wrong with me again. Of course, you see when she looks at me with that face, I can't tell if she's looking at me like I'm not normal or I am normal because I say things like this and she looks at me.

Is it a regular face of disbelief she's looking at me or is it because I talk like that all the time and it's a normal face? I don't know, but at any rate, I couldn't figure it out. Due to the fact that many spiritual creatures battle for possession of your planet, which reveals much you and will in time expose the invisible entities and shine light and truth on them so that they may be consumed by Master Zator's all masterful hand. How do you get consumed by a hand? I don't know. Fear not the underworld along the trees of Eden.

Zaytat. So as you can see, or as you can hear, there are people who, well, let's just say, you know, I don't know. And let's see. Here's something. Dear Matt Slick, and now if you're new to the show, on Friday, sometimes I do hate mail when the callers don't come in. Hey folks, give me a call. Okay.

Five open lines. Eight seven seven. Sorry. I hate mail in the chat room. Eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six.

Give me a call. And somebody writes, he says, saying Mormons, please realize that Karm is not trying to attack you. When I say things like Mormons, please understand I'm not trying to attack you, but you know, the faith that they teach is wrong. Okay.

And it is. And then saying my religion is false and that it cannot save anyone is absolutely an attack. Well, it's an attack on the religion.

Yeah. He goes, uh, I'm a Christian. I'm Mormon. And I argued again. And if I argued against you face to face about the validity of my religion, I would wipe the floor with you.

Well, that'd be good. And uh, Ooh, though. Oh, it goes, Oh, thou child of hell. I'll see you while you weep at God's feet at judgment day, begging for forgiveness.

And I'll say, I told you so that's a Mormon saying that, man, uh, if you even remote, if you are even remotely intelligent and can spare some of your measly pathetic inherently and obviously wasted time. That is awesome. That is so good. I got to read that one again.

Oh man. I like stuff like that. If you are even remotely intelligent, I guess, I guess not. I'm not even remotely intelligent. If you are even remotely intelligent and can spare some of your measly pathetic inherently and obviously wasted time to email me back, I will be grateful. Sincerely, sincerely your unadmirer.

So, so he condemns me to hell. Even if I were remotely intelligent and I can spare some of my measly pathetic inherently and obviously wasted time, email him back. Sincerely. I'm sorry.

It's killing me. You moron, you idiot. Sincerely. Wow. Oh, yeah. I got issues.

I sure love this stuff. It's woo. Okay. Maybe I'll do one more.

Let's see if there's any other good like this. Um, okay. Let's see. Here we go. I am Mr. So and so, and I have another message. I found out that Matthew Slick, that's me, is really an agnostic.

Really? I didn't know I was an agnostic. Here I am defending Christ, defending that God exists. It's a Trinity. The God of the scripture and I'm an agnostic. Who would have thought?

Not me. He says the things that I have to say is not suitable. The things I have to say is. No, it should be the things I have to say are not suitable for the minds of agnostics. Whoa, really?

In other words, what I have to say is not of his level, but if it is not true that Matthew Slick is an agnostic, please let me know. And so he goes on and on and on. So, uh, you know, I, I, I'm just cracking up. I can't help it. The first one was good though. It was awesome.

It's insulted me left and right. Okay. One more and then we'll get to the caller right now. Here.

877-207-2276. So there's a YouTube clip out there which says, says it all about this clown, Matt Slick. He completely lies about getting authority from Jesus. Wow.

I didn't know that. I'm a clown. Man, I love, I love this stuff. Man, I just do. Uh, are you really going to trust this man? Well, of course not.

Ladies and gentlemen, you don't trust some kind of radio whose name's slick. That's a gimme. You just don't do that. Come on. He says, uh, why are all Protestants hell bound? It's because you will all die in your sin because you do not believe in baptism and confession.

Yes, we do believe in baptism and confession. Oh my goodness. Okay. Uh, you will all join your founder, Martin Luther, along with the other 30,000 or so Christian sects.

I will pray for you so that you will leave this lie that Matt Slick preaches. And then he gives a link to a, to a YouTube thing. I'm going to click and see if it takes me to a YouTube thing. Apparent. Let's see.

Video unavailable. All right. So, uh, yeah. Okay. So there's the wake up calls, uh, emails that I enjoy so much.

A lot of fun. Let's just get to daddy from Charlotte, North Carolina, who we lost. Oh man. So now why don't we just jump on with Laura from North Carolina. Laura, welcome. You're on the air. Hey.

Oh, I'm back with you last night. And I just, I wanted to commend you or, uh, that, that's the way you handle your sense. Your sense of humor is, is, is wonderful. Oh, I have a great sense of humor. Oh, people don't know.

That's right. Hey, we got a break. We got a break. So hold on. Okay. We'll get back with you. Okay.

Laura. All right. Hey folks, we have four open lines. 877-207-2276. Give me a call. All right, everyone.

Welcome back to the show. We have four open lines. Why don't you give me a call? 877-207-2276.

People in the chat room are telling me they enjoy the 8-mail. All right. So there you go. Hey, maybe Laura put the, uh, the URL for the, uh, stuff in there.

So we will watch. I don't know, but let's get back to a different Laura from North Carolina. Laura, welcome you back on the air. Hey. Oh yeah. I am from the planet far, far away. So I'll give you a call.

Long distance. So not that was all I had to really say was that, you know, um, everywhere, everywhere has gotta be somewhere. Somebody has got to do something cruel or, you know, uh, put you down.

Oh yeah. I get it a lot. Same time there was so many people, you know, so many people that didn't really care about us.

And like I said before, it does not take anything to encourage someone, you know? Well, I do get a lot of, I do get a lot of love mail though. We have a lot of people who, who, uh, are an email and they're thankful and, uh, I can read some of it. Yeah, there's a lot. Yeah, there is. We get a lot, but there's not as fun, you know, when they say things like, man, appreciate it.

You know, they'll talk about the hate. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Here's one like, here's a, here's a love mail. Here's a love mail. Okay. I listened to your radio show frequently. I benefit from your insight very much.

Keep up the good work. God bless. Well, let's see, that's not entertaining. It might be true.

Even if I do say so, maybe it's true, but it's just not exciting. You know? And so I even have, I even have whacko mail.

Well, the years ago before, uh, you know, before I got to different stations, um, it was somebody I'd read an email. It was great because it was the guy who said on a certain day, his pastor was going to turn, transform his body into an atomic body. And I just went off on that and I had so much fun, you know, an atomic body, you know, what happens if he eats beans, you know? Uh, what happens if he burps? Oh yeah, I did.

You know, run for your life. You know, he's going to the bathroom and so, you know, just having fun. Oh wow.

Thanks for sharing. I'm going to finish cleaning up the building room, but I, like I said, I so enjoyed listening to you, you know, my wife said that I learned a lot. I wish my wife said, I love listening to you. Well, no, you see what happens is, I go up to her and go, Hey honey, how are you doing? And she just looks at me like, what are you going to say this time?

You know, what's going to be dumb? So I tried to say, Oh, she's, you know, she's only been married to me 35 years. I think she's kind of used to my in name for her camouflage, but uh, you know, so poor woman.

Well, a lot of them get too personal with her, but it seems from what you said about your wife, you've been a, you've been a wonderful husband. Oh, I don't know about that. I've certainly had my faults. I've got Asperger's and there's been some difficulties due to that, but you know, uh, that's what it is, but she's a good woman. What's that? What's that? I don't have that much.

I'm on a diet lately, but losing weight and working out. So anyway, I didn't know what that was and I was being, Oh, no. Asperger's is a form of autism. It's autism. I'm on the autism spectrum. Oops, sorry.

Hold on. Yeah, I do. I'm autistic and I used to hyper focus. I don't do as much as anymore, but I hyper focus so much. It was in self hypnosis and I could do that for hours at a time studying in depth for hours and um, but I know I'm 65.

I don't do that as much and I have an ability to remember numbers and patterns and so I can remember scriptures and stuff. What's that? I've been with me. It's numbers and music. Okay. People at churches told me, you know. Okay.

Well with my wife, it's recipes and sandwich making. Okay. And so, um, okay, I'm gonna get in trouble for that one.

People are gonna start mailing me these shovels cause I dig myself a hole in my soul. All right. Okay.

Would you take care? God bless you and your wife, your family. All right. God bless. Okay. Hey folks, it's a slow Friday.

If you want to give me a call, all we got to do, all you have to do is dial 8772072276. If you're new to the show, you're not quite sure what's going on. This is a Christian apologetic show and I get very, very serious about defending the Christian faith. I do debates with atheists, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, agnostics, all kinds of people.

And I have discussions in depth and, but also like to goof around and have a little bit of fun. So, okay. Can I address the significance of Melchizedek? Was he Jesus in the Old Testament? No, he was not.

Uh, I don't believe he was. He was a type of Christ. If you go to Hebrew chapter seven, he is mentioned there and, um, he's also called a man, but no, he's not a pre-incarnate Christ, but even though it says he's born without a generation, without genealogy and all this kind of stuff, it's just a way in that ancient culture of saying how great he was. That's all it is. So he was just a man, not a pre incarnate manifestation in the sense that he was living and doing things and, uh, doing priestly duties. And I think there's no evidence of that.

So it's just a typological representation of who Christ is. All right. Now, last night I taught on, on, uh, on millennialism and we had, uh, a newbie who came to the study and there was a, let's just say, uh, not argumentative, but, uh, we tried to counter everything and, you know, try to be polite, say, you know, just hold on to different topic. And, um, you know, it ended well afterwards, but if you heard that information on millennialism, you know, I'm curious to know what you thought of it.

But what I was thinking of doing is telling my wife about this a while back. I started a PowerPoint slide presentation and I'm looking at it right now. I've got, uh, let's see how many slides.

I've got 38 slides. And what I was thinking about doing is completing it and going through building a case for all millennialism and doing it such a way that when you click the next slide, things glide and move and things like this, but also set it up so that each thing builds on another and you can see how the argument is developed. And so I'm thinking about doing that and then presenting it and then narrating it as I go through that.

So people would like that. If you do like that, if you like that idea, um, you know, in the chat room to say yes, I want to hear you if you think it's a good idea. And if you're curious about it, let me know, you know, because the more people who say yes to it, the more I get motivated to work on things. I've got three or four articles I'm working on right now and I'm about to release a table of comparing the different millennial views, pre-mill law, post-mill and going through that.

So I'll probably release that in the next hour or two. And, uh, you know, I'm enjoying the discussion of this, the, uh, the eschatological view. Now I'm going to say something here that I think is a bold statement. And I want to say that in my opinion, okay, is that this is just subjective. It was my opinion that once the information in support of all millennialism is presented, I don't believe that anyone can refute it.

Now, when I say that, I'm not saying it, you know, with the arrogance. It's like so far, but maybe someone can, and I'm totally open to that. I am. Um, so maybe you'll do it.

Who knows? We'll see what happens. Hey folks, there's the music. We write back after these messages. Please stay tuned.

877-207-2277. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone. Welcome back to the show.

Two open lines, 877-207-2276. Let's get to Jeff from Tacoma, Washington. Jeff, welcome.

You are on the air. Hey, how's it going? It's going, man. It's going. So where do you go, big guy? All right. All right. I've been listening about five or six years.

First time calling. Before I want to get started, I didn't know if you knew this or not, but most people take and hang their pictures and art up on the wall. I noticed there in the background, you got one leaning against the wall there.

On the ground. That's right. And that's because, that's so people can see it because if it's up high, then they can't see it. That's why. Oh, you're slick, man. That's right. And my wife drew that one, as a matter of fact. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. She's a good artist. All right. Oh yeah. She's very, very talented.

One of our daughters is even more talented. Yeah. Seriously. I have none. Also, I'm digging the hate mail.

I was wondering if you've ever thought of, I don't know if you watch much James White where he'll critique some of the stuff, but it seems like yours is more just kind of ad hominem garbage. They don't go. Wait a minute. You mean, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you mean they're writing his head hominem garbage or my commentary is? Oh yeah. You weren't quite clear. Clarification. The hate mail is ad hominem garbage.

They don't extract your substance. Oh yeah, I know. But you see, the thing is, people don't know this.

I mean, I try to say it, but I have a lot of fun with my friends and I have a good sense of humor and I write humor stuff and it's quite a dichotomy from the seriousness I do of theological exposition and analysis, but I like to have a lot of fun and I'm always insulting my friends. They just expect it. So, you know, stuff like that.

If they actually go for your substance, it would be nice to watch you kind of counterpoint them, but I'm not seeing that or hearing that much. It's just kind of name calling. But anyway, my main question is middle knowledge. Do you think that there is any place even for what they're calling like mere middle knowledge?

To me, I listen to it. It just sounds like they're just flapping their gums trying to make philosophy fit, but I don't know if you're listening. Well, there's truth to middle knowledge.

Okay, go ahead. Okay, so it means that God's knowledge of all things, he knows everything that would happen in every possible circumstance. So that's what middle knowledge basically is. So there's different views. Middle knowledge is the awareness that God has of what free will creatures will do under different circumstances and he knows all those things. The problem isn't with middle knowledge itself.

The problem is what people do with that concept. And then some will say that what happens is God knows what we'll do in different circumstances. And as a result of it, what he does is he brings into existence the created order that will bring about the most salvation for people because he knows what different people are going to do in different situations. So he brings out the best world for that. And it's dumb theology.

I'm sorry, but it is. It just doesn't make any sense. I see. Yeah, because he decreed all things. So even if he would know the choices that make given X, Y, Z, I mean, to me, that just doesn't even make sense because he's already decreed it anyway. See, there you go.

Now, the thing is, I got to get serious here. How can God decree our free will choices? And the answer is he can. He can decree and bring about our free will choices.

The Bible says in Proverbs 21, 1, he moves the heart of the king where he wishes it to go. Now, an illustration I use on a very basic level is I could be sitting across a table from somebody having a cup of coffee and to my right and to his left is a window outside the street. What if I want to cause him to freely look to his left to my right out the window? What if I want to cause him to freely look out the window? Can I do that? Well, yes.

I point out the window and I say, what the heck is that? And he looks. I didn't force him to, but I did cause him to, but yet he's the one who freely chose to. All of those can happen at the same time without any violation of truth or fact. God can certainly in a celestial level be in control of our lives and our freedom and work within them and around them.

It can't be any other way because God says he works all things after the counsel of his will. It's real simple. I got you.

Okay. So in a sense, using secondary causes to accomplish his degree or his primary cause. That's a way to put it.

He can use secondary causes to bring about primary in that sense of why we're looking at it. Yeah, the way we're looking at it. Right. Okay. All right. That's cool. All right.

It's not a big deal. Most of what I was hearing was, yeah, I just, it's been hot lately and I thought- Middle knowledge? Middle knowledge?

Yeah. Well, I believe it's because they are trying to figure God out in relationship with their own freedom and the only result that can come about due to man's thinking is to reduce God and exalt man because we don't have the capacity to understand the mind of God and how he can do things. So the natural tendency is to say, well, yeah, God won't violate my free will and they work as a universal principle.

People tell me that. He won't violate your free will and I say, show me that in scripture. Well, you believe he can't?

I said, I didn't say he can or can't. I'm just saying, show me your position in scripture is all I'm saying. If you're going to make a case and then build a theological, I don't know, house on this theological fact, this foundation, verify it first. Verify it. People don't verify. They assume, well, that's how it is biblical, biblically, so let's move on from here. Well, I just say, well, show me, you know, I'm not being mad or, you know, it's just, okay, just show me that verse in scripture where it says, and let's go. Yeah.

And they can't. All right. Bingo. Your summary was just what I was thinking when I'm watching the debates, how you just summed it up there at the end. That just shows you're smart.

See, you can get the same view I did. That's me, you're a smart guy. You know, great minds think a lot alike. By the way, I've noticed a sense of humor.

I think we all do. We've listened to you for any short period of time. We'll figure out that I've got some screws loose. That's what they figure out first, and then they find out. We find that out. That's right. And then they find out, wait a minute, I still like the guy. And that's what happens. I heard the rattling, and I figured it is. That's right.

They like me anyway. Yeah, the screws are loose. That's right.

Because most people can relate to it anyway. And that's just what it is. So, no big deal. All right. Thank you, man. I'll let you move on to the next. All right, man. God bless. Okay. Bye. Appreciate it.

Whoops, sorry about that. Hey, let's get to Mitchell from Charlotte, North Carolina. Mitchell, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How you doing? Let me check. I'm okay. That's funny.

Good to know. So, I guess I'm going to kind of word this right. What roles did Jesus and the Holy Spirit play in the Old Testament? Because I've heard you say, whenever, you know, when I say that, I think Adam and Eve saw God. You're saying that they saw the pre-incarnate Christ. And so, I guess I was just looking for just a little bit of clarification as for, you know, I guess what was Jesus' role before he was sent by the Father.

Sure. One of the things that he did was to create. He was the issue or the means by which all things are created. He is the one who was in the Garden of Adam and Eve, who instituted the Gospel message at the first time there.

All appearances of him in the Old Testament or the physical appearances of God in a humanish form are the pre-incarnate Christ, et cetera. The Holy Spirit is found in Genesis 1, 1 through 3 and that the Spirit of God hovered over. And also in Job 33, 4, the Holy Spirit made me. And I forgot the verse.

David says, do not take your Holy Spirit from me. And so, let me just do this right now. Let me try something here. I'm going to go do this right now. And my Bible program, which is really fast. I'm in Genesis chapter 1, verse 1.

I'm going to type in, let's see, let's see. Just try this Holy Spirit and see what happens. Yeah, and that's Psalm 51, 11. And do not take your Holy Spirit from me. So the Holy Spirit is there in the Old Testament.

Isaiah 63, 10, but they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit. And then it goes into Matthew. Hold on, we've got to break, so hold on, buddy. We'll be right back after these messages. We have two open lines if you want to give me a call.

877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back, everybody.

Let's get back on the line with Mitchell from Charlotte, North Carolina. All right, you're back on. So you there? Yeah, I'm here.

What's up, buddy? All right, man. So, hey, during the break, I did a little bit of research and just did a search of the Old Testament on Spirit of God. God did Holy Spirit, which occurs, and the Spirit of God, and it comes up a lot. And the Spirit of God came upon him, and that's in Numbers. And let's see if I can go find another one.

Oh, I can do it this way. And so, there we go. So in 1 Samuel, it mentions the Spirit of God. In 1 Samuel 11, 1 Samuel 19, 19, 2 Chronicles 15, 2 Chronicles 24, Job 33, 4, Ezekiel 11, 24. So, yep, he's all over the place in the Old Testament.

Gotcha, okay. If I can ask really quick, so how do you come to the conclusion that it was a pre-incarnate Christ? Because it says God appears in the Old Testament as God Almighty. You can go to Exodus 6, 2, and 3 for that. And you can also go to other verses, like Genesis 17, 1, Genesis 18, 1, Exodus 24, 9-11, Numbers 12, 6-8. These are verses where God appears, and it's even said to be God Almighty. And Jesus says in John 6, 46 that no one's ever seen the Father. So if they were seeing God Almighty, but they were not seeing the Father, who was it?

The only other option... Ah, there's the light bulb. Okay, there you go. The only other option is the Holy Spirit, but the Holy Spirit never appears in an anthropomorphical form. It's always a movement, a pillar of fire, things like that.

So the anthropomorphic forms are the pre-incarnate Christ. Okay? Gotcha, cool.

That clarified a lot. Thank you, sir. Have a good night.

Go get them. Okay, buddy. God bless, Mitchell.

All right. Hey, folks, three open lines. Want to give me a call?

877-207-2276. Let's get to Mike from North Carolina. Mike, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt, how you doing? Doing all right, my God.

I'm calling about... I've got some passages in the Bible which lead me to believe that every Christian in the United States, every Christian in the world, is an abomination unto the Lord. Now, let me read the passages come from Leviticus 19, 35, and 36. It says, And again, in Deuteronomy 25, it gets even more specific. It says, And then again, it says it again in Proverbs. It's the same thing, Proverbs 20-10, and then down below, I think, 20-20.

Okay, so what's your question? So the question is, aren't we all sinners and an abomination because we carry in our pockets, it's called money because it isn't, but it really isn't money. We carry these pieces of paper that we call money, and those are diverse weights and diverse measures because it changes.

No, no, no, no, no. When they would measure things back there, they had scales, and they would have to have a standard weight that other weights were compared against so that there was a commonality inside the community and inside the nation by which the common weight would be used. So you might have a weight like a stone, but they would have different ways of putting things together, have different weights. It could be of metal, and that was a standard measured by other ones. And so this would be dispersed around the area, and they would use them as a central measurement of weight. And so you would say, here's a weight of whatever for a bushel of grain or whatever it might be. That's what it's talking about when it says you shall not alter those weights so that you are stealing from people.

That's what it's talking about. But isn't one of the functions of money to be a measure of value? Money has three functions. It's a store of value, it's a medium of exchange, and it's a measure.

Now you're equivocating. Now, look, picture a piece, a small segment of metal. And let's just say, just for our argument, it's 100 grams.

Let's say it's exactly 100 grams. And we take that and we copy it by adding metal to another object, whatever it is, until we get that exact same weight. And we can balance it on a scale. The initial weight is the thing that we're using. And then we create other weights and use that as a scale.

Those other ones are carried out in the kingdom. That's what it is. That's what it means, an unjust weight. When you have money in your pocket, their equivalent of money was based out of the initial weight. And it was given a certain value monetarily because then they couldn't carry weights.

They would use money that had the equivalent of the weight. And so that's all it is. And we're to be honest in our dealings with people in commerce. And that's one of the underlying principles, to say, well, money in your pocket is the same thing as evil weights. That's not the same thing. Well, I'm not saying that we're evil, but the monetary system we have adopted, because it's not the monetary system that the Constitution of the United States gave us.

Right. The monetary system, as a matter of fact, the Constitution is very specific. The government cannot print paper money that is backed by nothing. They can only go over.

That's it. But you've got to understand something. We have a corrupt government, flat out a corrupt government. And this is why we say to people, well, we vote these people out. And we fight against the tyranny. You can do it by driving trucks into cities and saying, hey, we want our rights.

You can do stuff like that. So Christians have to get involved. Absolutely, yes. The Christians have to get involved in changing the system. Absolutely, yes. The idea of any pastor telling Christians, don't get involved with politics, it's not our realm, is either flat out wrong.

Flat out wrong. Jesus is Lord over everything. He's not just Lord over church on Sunday, but how you are when you vote. And how you are when you drive your car.

How you are when you are in the store. And you are, to be honest, a people of integrity. This is why Christians should be involved in politics. They're obligated to be involved in politics. Because in politics you can then defend the helpless.

We're obligated to do that. Isaiah 117 says that. Are the unbelievers going to do that? Are the unbelievers who are passing laws to benefit themselves? Benefit their own pockets? Who get insider trading? Who take kickbacks from people?

Are they the ones who are carrying out the concerns for the common person? Absolutely not. This is why Christians need to be involved. Right. I agree 100%. And if we don't, when everything falls, because it will. Because the unbelievers can't be trusted to live properly for long periods of time. You've got to understand, the Constitution was written and highly influenced by Christians.

Highly influenced. I recommend that people read the Constitution of the United States. You'd be surprised at how much is in there that is influenced by Scripture.

It's right there. You know, they don't meet on Sundays, for example. They have days off and things like this, the Sabbath.

So read through it. You'd be surprised. But what's happening is the inmates are now in charge of the asylum. And we have these leftist... I'm going to be careful what I say on radio because I have no respect for Hillary Clinton, for Nancy Pelosi, for AOC, for these leftist moron wackos who are there who don't know what the truth is, who are socialistic, who pass laws that oppress people, confiscate money. They want to get rid of our rights and they want to have others.

The government have rights and be the ones in charge of our lives and our distribution. They want that. And that's what they're going to do. And if we don't stop them, they're going to continue to destroy our Constitution and the laws.

I mean, think about it. This moron in office who is opening up the border to let illegals come in, which is against the law, while he's saying everybody else has to have their vaccines and their masks, and then he lets them come in illegally with no vaccine and masks. Then he flies them into the country. Right there is just demonstration that this guy is a puppet. And what are Christians doing?

Nothing. Let me make one more comment that brings me back to this to show you how truthful the Bible is, is that at the heart and soul of all of this is our monetary system. Because if we had an honest monetary system, we wouldn't have the big government that we have today because you couldn't do it because you cannot print gold and silver. In fact, when we had gold and silver as money, the government was small. It was only after the creation of the Federal Reserve that government began to grow and become this gigantic octopus. The Federal Reserve is a private organization. Right, run by bankers. And one of the things that President Kennedy wanted to do was get us back on the gold standard.

And look what happened to him. Right, that's right. And it was Nixon that took us completely off of it. Yep, that's right.

In 1973? Yep, he was brilliant in foreign policy and then he went and did what he did there, which really hurt our country because now all they've got to do is print money. And when the leftists are in control, they print more and more and more and more, which means that our dollars that we make are in our pocket literally lose value. We have to then suffer the consequences of the idiocy of our government that's overspending and now we're $30 trillion in debt.

It's just insane. Our country cannot survive this. It cannot. It's going to collapse. No, the monetary system will collapse. And what it does is it hurts the poor and it enriches the rich. That's why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Well, here, since we're talking about this stuff, I'm going to make a lot of people mad.

Why is the United States government getting involved with Ukraine and saying, your border we've got to protect, and yet they open up our own borders in hypocrisy? Why is it? I can't help but wonder. I don't have any evidence for this. I'm just thinking out loud.

Could it be because the powers that be need another war or something to be able to sell weapons for and through and people can get rich again? I don't know. I just wonder. I wish there were reporters who would run that angle down and see. I don't trust our government.

Sorry, I don't. But I'm saying this. I don't trust them. I don't trust them.

But you know what? Candace Owens, oh, man. Boy, I like Candace Owens. I love her. She's incredible. Oh, man, she's awesome. And I wish, I hope that when she turns 35, because that's the minimum age to run for president, I hope she runs for president. A black woman who's intelligent and articulate. Oh, she would be incredible. She is awesome. And I wish she would.

Yeah, we need big people. What's that? Yeah. Yeah. She's my favorite. Oh, she is. I once said to my wife, I go, can I date her?

And she goes, yeah. Because she's so awesome. And so I just think Candace Owens is just phenomenal. Yeah. We need people like her in office.

Could you imagine Candace Owens debating AOC? Be like Mike Tyson beating up me, you know? Yeah. We got to go, buddy. All right. Okay. Thanks, Matt. God bless. God bless. Vicki, what do the scriptures talk about cremation? None.

Except for Revelation 14 and 11, the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. That's the closest you'll get to. Call back on Monday. Hey, folks, everybody have a great weekend. May the Lord bless you. And by His grace, we'll be back on the air on Monday to talk to you then. Another program powered by the Truth Network.