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Go ahead. I know I don't want to I could I'm not on the level where I could debate you on this But I debated them. Here's the problem. Why did Paul when Titus was hanging out there to Jerusalem Council? Why did Paul not take that opportunity to say gentlemen as you know? Baptism has replaced circumcision. So let's not argue about Titus being circumcised or Timothy He never brings it up Okay, so Okay, so what's your point I mean, what's the way it's not connected I mean why didn't Paul connect the dot I Mean that I'm not at that point. I'm not arguing. I'm not like the guy yesterday.

It tries. No, that's okay I've just my opinion. I'm no I'm just not sure we're going with it.

That's all I believe that's what I'm trying to Connect the dots and I don't yeah, I believe baptism is a I don't see where Okay, go ahead mm-hmm it's not circumcision I Didn't say baptism was circumstance. I say it's not I Don't say it. Okay. Hold on a sec. Hold on a sec.

Hold on a sec. Okay. Okay. Baptism is not the same thing as circumcision All right, okay, but Presbyterian doctrine says it is no I'm a Presbyterian which a Presbyterian seminary and It relates to them, but doesn't equate them identically. Okay.

Okay. I'm misunderstood Yeah, and so what we would say is Presbyterians is that baptism and there are variations within this within Presbyterianism baptism is a a sign of entrance into the Covenant the same way circumcision was mm-hmm, and so So that's all and that's why we can as a Presbyterian we would do infant baptism because we don't believe it saves but because in Covenant theology the infants are included in the Covenant work of God as a You know covenant, so that's all Okay, yeah, I know I it's tough for me I just you know, I can go so far but then I get tripped up at the end and Here's something really isn't here's something to think about. All right, here's I'm gonna think about then I like to do this with people I did this last night with I had a Bible study here and We got done at midnight. But um Jesus was most probably sprinkled as baptism So then they said I agree with that bit.

That's okay good and also think about this in Joel 2 28 and 29 The spirit is poured and that is the baptism. I've spoken of an x2. Yeah No, I don't have an agree. I don't have a I'm gonna bring them both. Hold on. I'm gonna break. Okay, we're right back Okay, sorry about that.

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Here's Matt slick Welcome back to the show Dave. Are you still there? Yeah And what complicates the matter even more is you know, I was I grew up a liberal Lutheran Which you know said but I was actually baptized on the eighth day And I had my certificate, you know, and I always in and I was confirmed That my baptism was effective and that's what confirmation was and I said the Apostles freed and now is allowed to take communion Okay, so went in but but I was not sick I got saved in a Baptist Church and and you know, they they said hey you've been baptized I said well, do you have a question about all this? I'm just curious. Yeah. Yeah Well, well, my question is again in covenant theology.

I cannot I Circumcision to baptism. That's the main thing. Okay It's a train that doesn't couple and I don't think what's the sign at every opportunity? What's the sign? What's the sign of what is the sign of entering into the Covenant then the New Covenant? By being born again with with with your confession of Jesus Christ, that's not a covenant sign Covenant signs biblically have a manifestation. So we have the rainbow we have circumcision the Abrahamic covenant we have The communion as a participate right coven.

It's a remembrance. So what's the sign of entrance into the New Covenant? Well again, do you depend and now I'm a covenant I'm a half dispensationalist. So like Okay, but here's a question something to think about that What's the sign of entering into the New Covenant is because communion by his fashion of faith in Jesus? No, no, no, no, no No, communion is the sign of the New Covenant But it's not the entrance of the current covenant. It's what's part the well, I mean hold it let me finish me finish, please the believers Participate of that covenant sign, but they're already in the Covenant What's the sign that they end that they used to enter into that covenant?

That's the question? Okay You're you're both you're born-again belief where the Holy Spirit enters you at that moment. Can you show me and banner? Being born again. We're being born again is the sign of the entrance.

It was a covenant sign Show me we're being born again a covenant sign Okay And that's what you're gonna do, but I tell you what we got callers waiting check on that and see what you can find. Okay All right. Okay. Thank you.

All right, call back for sure. Okay. All right Okay, let's get to Kim from rural hall, North Carolina.

Kim. Welcome. You're on the air Thank you, Matt, yes Let me give you a please 50.

I'll give you my question. I'm coming from our first John to 20 Okay, and 27 John 16 13 Okay Now my question is is John is this Paul's thing that we should get to a certain spiritual maturity Whereas we are totally taught by the Holy Spirit and not by me Well What is these verses are talking about is an anointing and I use first on 227 frequently as a relationship to demonstrate a relationship of an anointing of the Holy Spirit and An anointing is when a person or an object is there and you take an element water blood oil And you apply it to the object That's what it means to be anointed. The Holy Spirit is spoken of in the Old Testament always as being poured upon You know, I will pour the Holy Spirit forth on all mankind out of Joel 2 20 29, which Paul Peter quotes in Acts 1 17 18 or at 2 17 18 and so And it's called this is what's fulfilled and the Holy Spirit is poured So that's just how that is related and that that incidentally that pouring is the baptism because it says in Acts 1 5 that g John the Baptist baptized with water, but you'll be baptized with the Holy Spirit So that baptism has to be the pouring of the Spirit upon you So it's the application of the Spirit upon someone so this also works with Jesus Who was anointed with the Holy Spirit at his baptism?

When he was fulfilling all righteousness as he was entering into the priesthood after the order of Melchizedek according the Old Testament law So first John 2 27 the anointing which you have received from him abides in you and you have no need for anyone to teach you but his anointing teaches you about all things and And so the implication is that the anointing is the actual Holy Spirit who bide abides in you and when you go to John 16 13 when the Spirit of truth comes he'll guide you into all truth You can also go to verse 26 1426 yeah and 14 26 talks about that as well Where it says and to get to it here it says to help her the Holy Spirit and the Father will teach you He will teach you of all things Bring your members all that I've said so the Holy Spirit is the teacher and it seems to be related in 1st John 2 27 That he will teach you of all things and so that's why the Holy Spirit is an a type of anointing that makes sense If you walk in with the Lord after so many years and you're walking in this Spirit then you're being taught by the Holy Spirit, and you don't actually need to listen to any man That's not true Now it does say you don't have any need For anyone to teach you but his anointing teaches you about all things now if that's the case if the Holy Spirit is there And you don't have any need of anyone to teach you what we're talking about here is the promise of eternal life in that context That Jesus Christ has given all of this to us And that we have an anointing and we really don't need anyone to teach us And this is the idea of what he's talking about is the Holy Spirit in himself is sufficient however God has given apostles and prophets and teachers In order to equip Christians so even though we have the sufficiency of what we need with the Word of God and the Spirit of God we still have preachers and teachers who fill the gaps for those who Don't fulfill that The trust and faith of that need where they can have that work of God teaching them, okay? Are you there okay, okay? Yeah, God bless you. Thank God bless you man. God bless all right.

Let's get to Armando from Las Vegas hey Armando welcome you're on the air Hello, Matt, thanks for taking my call sure man, so what do you got um? You had a video that I truly enjoyed it was called a conversation with the Jehovah witness And you have questions that you presented And I hate you can't answer these questions. Oh Confident in the Bible or the watchtower Would you have similar questions or conversations to have with the Latter-day Saints? They wouldn't be able to answer without contradicting the Book of Mormon or contradicting the Bible. Yes So on Karm you can look up difficult questions for Mormons to answer Okay So here's a question why do Mormons put back into their temples the veil that God destroyed at the crucifixion of Jesus Matthew 27 51? I ask Mormons this all the time. They don't have an answer How about how could Joseph Smith has seen God the father in his first vision if the Bible says that the father cannot be seen first Timothy 6 15 to 16 And then they they butcher it they well he could see he had the eye of faith. This has no one can see You know so there's lots of things or if the Book of Mormon is true Why do Indians fail to turn white when they become Mormons according to second Nephi 36?

That's prior to 1981 Version so the Book of Mormon was changed. I'd say why they change it? There's a whole bunch of stuff. Hey, hold on We got a break. Okay Hey folks, you have two open lines if you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two Seven six, we'll be right back. It's Matt slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. Here's Matt Slick Welcome back to the show.

Let's get back on the air with her but we have the article on calm difficult questions for Mormons to answer and it's worth checking out if you guys are interested in that All right. Let's see. The next longest waiting person is Let's see BC from Florida BC welcome you're on the air. I'm Matt slick. How are you? I'm fine Thank you.

Good. Good first time caller longtime listener. My husband started smiling ear-to-ear when he heard that I was on the line with my husband My husband started smiling ear-to-ear when he heard that I was on the line with you.

So it's a pleasure to call in You don't know this. His name's Ricky. Ricky? Yes, sir.

Hey Ricky, I'm waving to you. All right You don't know this but we have a love-hate relationship every time we get in the car He wants to turn on Matt slick and I'm like, no, let's just not listen to Matt No, he's a smart man. This is good.

He's smart. You should listen to your husband. You should listen. You should listen. You sound like a really good guy. Okay.

Yeah, but yes, so we're learning so much. We were in a more of a charismatic movement and now we're learning so much through systematic theology and about the reformed faith and things like that He is just leading on our family in such a great direction and I'm learning so much as well So I wanted to call in and ask, I understand in my head how to applaud the gospel But we are visiting my family because my grandmother has fallen ill And this is a family that we don't normally see on a daily basis because you know I don't know how to explain it. We're wrestling with how, or at least I am wrestling with how to deal with their sin And how to evangelize to them and that's basically my question for today. How do I evangelize to my family without you know, like jumping out on their toes like You know, you're doing this and you're doing that wrong and this and this and that like because I'm very I guess my husband calls it black and white. I see it and I want to call it out and then like stop doing it And then, how do I like walk in love and show them the gospel versus kind of tell them the gospel I'm not understanding that concept. Okay.

Exactly. Well, you always preamble it with prayer You always got to be praying that the words that you speak will be received and I was going to pray for the gospels of power of God to salvation. Romans 1 16 and speak the word.

The word is truth And Isaiah 55 11 says God's word will not come back empty without accomplishing what he desires So you pray for the opportunity to speak the word. Now with family members the thing is I could say the exact same thing you say and they'll listen to me because I'm not a family member And vice versa with you and my family. It's just, you know, it's just how it works That's how it works. Well, what you do is you get ready to make mistakes Because that's what you do.

You make mistakes. But mistakes are only made when you're trying If you never make mistakes because you're not doing anything It's better to make a mistake trying than do nothing And so look for opportunities to not necessarily just label their sin You know, you got sinners, pagans, you got to repent, you slime dogs What you can do is say Jesus came here to save sinners and we're all sinners We've all lied and we've all done bad things and so God's holy and he'll take care of that One way or another through forgiveness in Christ or you got to take care of that sin And what he said it would be taken care of is in hell And so the way to escape that is through Christ And so that way you're not really rubbing anything in their face but you're telling the truth at the same time And then what I would do is also just say and all you have to do is just pray to Jesus And ask Jesus to forgive you of all of your sins because the true Jesus is prayed to And put that in their head and they can do it anytime driving down the road Praying to Christ and trusting in him alone with their works or baptism or goodness or sincerity or anything It's a generic thing, okay Okay and so one of the things that I'm wrestling with the most is because I've had a conversation with my mother A couple of times and I always end really bad like you know like I tell her like okay well you're a single woman You're not you know the word talks about not you know shacking up with a man and this and this and that Oh well we're not sleeping together so it's fine But I brush it under the rug and then she won't talk to me for like months and then she'll show back up And think everything's alright and I'm just like I don't know how to like I'm wrestling with do I just push her away or I know the words that we shouldn't even okay Don't push her away but pray for opportunities and wisdom to speak and bring it up when you think it's necessary And I would also listen to your husband because you know aside from the joking earlier We need to rely on our spouses for an outside viewpoint so to speak and wisdom and just listen to what he says I've learned to do that with my wife over the years she doesn't have as much knowledge as I do in some areas But she has insights in stuff I'm like wow that's a good point and I listen to what she says because of that I hope she's not hearing me because then she might rub it in my face later You said it already so Well this is going to happen to me after this is going to happen to you Oh yeah that's right my wife is also slick So you know the thing is the reason I said earlier you know get ready to make mistakes is because that's what we do when we try Don't be afraid to make those mistakes but it's more important that the gospel be preached than they be comfortable They need to hear that gospel because you know may it not happen let's say your mom or whoever suddenly has a heart attack and is gone You will have wished that you've spoken more of the gospel or at least made sure it was clear Once you know it's clear and they understood what you said you don't have to say it every single time Because sometimes the right way to witness is not say anything they just know while you're being around As you are holy That's helpful when I'm thinking of my grandmother because I don't see her all the time but I do want to make it clear Before we go back home the reality is the gospel so that I don't miss out on the opportunity So thank you Matt I appreciate it Well I hope that was good advice so we'll find out I will you take care and God bless you and your life You too oh thanks well God bless Alright folks if you want to give me a call we have two open lines 877-207-2276 Ella from Iowa welcome you're on the air Hi there I hope all is great with you Matt just a quick question I'm a new baby Christian so I'm probably making the mistake of relying on my own human wisdom here But I was reading 2 Corinthians chapter 12 I believe it's verse 9 Can you move away from that sound or is that beeping in the sound in the background Oh yeah sure There you go Better? Yes that's better okay go ahead Chapter 12 9-10 when it talks about God refusing to pretty much cure Paul of his illness and tell him because well God is demonstrating his strength Could you explain that to me because I'm going through something and that's still very strong right now Alright a lot of times people think that God is always going to heal us and that's not the case Paul the apostle if anybody deserved to be healed but God chose not to But Paul asked him several times not to heal him heal him and the answer is that no that this was there to keep him from exalting himself When we don't exalt ourselves we don't need God when we are suffering we need God And so the issue here in verse 9 is God says my grace Jesus my grace is sufficient for you my power is perfected in weakness The word perfected there in Greek is teleo and it means to kind of bring to an end and to bring through and work it through in a proper way So perfected is good there and we get an English word teleology the study of design and things like that in the universe And so when he says my grace is sufficient for you for power is perfected in weakness The power of Jesus Christ is perfected or worked or maintained and brought to his proper conclusion in our weaknesses And that's what's going on there it's not perfected in the sense that it's not perfect to begin with But it's brought to that completion and mature expression in us because what comes from God is already perfect So that's what's going on there and we got a break coming up does that help? You want to hold?

Yes thank you so much You want to hold or is that good? I'll tell you what let's hold Well if you want to hang up that's okay I put her on hold Hey folks we'll be right back after these messages please stay tuned Enrica hold on a second I want to put that on hold because it says does a female pastor have the right to remarry? I wanted to talk about that because females are not supposed to be pastors That's the first thing we would talk about with that but nevertheless let's get to Anthony from Texas Anthony welcome you're on the air Hello yeah I have a quick question regarding 2 Peter 2 1 and Jude 1 4 I'm using the word there master desperately how does that relate? I'm sorry what let's do one at a time Okay 2 Peter 2 1 in regards to denying the master or sovereign lord that's not been Okay How does that I'm trying to find a way to make that square up with limited atonement Oh sure false prophets have also arose among the people Just as there will also be false teachers among you who will secretly introduce destructive heresies even denying the master who brought them Who bought them excuse me bringing swift destruction on the cells they were never saved to begin with obviously So how is it then that the issue of that they're being bought Well if you were to go through 1 and 2 Peter and I could do this in my online Bible The Old Testament quotes are in capitals and there's a lot of referencing by Peter in both epistles in the Old Testament And because he does that a great deal then when he talks about the issue of being bought When I research that I find the stuff in the Old Testament that's alluding to the idea of being bought And so I look at it like okay well what's he saying here and so then there's different answers about more technical stuff I don't want to get into that he says in Deuteronomy 32 6 God is talking to Israel And Israel had been delivered from Egypt and they were out there complaining and murmuring Do you thus repay the Lord oh foolish and unwise people is not he your father who bought you Has he not made you and established you remember the days of old consider the years of your generations So the Israelites were bought but it doesn't mean that they were redeemed it's not in the salvific sense So when I look at this what I see is the issue of the alluding to the Old Testament Now there's what's called a quote and an allusion not I illusion but allusion with a letter a To allude to something is to read to reference it without saying anything about it You're alluding to something in the past you're not bringing it up specifically And so a quote is obvious and we have a direct quotes but it looks like he's alluding a referencing the concept of the Israelites being bought And using it here because he's speaking to the bonds 1 Peter 1 he is talking to those who are residents as aliens Scattered upon just Pilate, Galatia, etc. and it looks like he's talking to the Jews who are scattered about So that's why it looks like what he's just talking about there is not a buying In which way were these teachers, I'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you. In which way are the people in that verse, how were they bought? In a generic sense that they knew that Christ was the one who provided the sin sacrifice for the people of Israel and others And in a generic sense I think what he's doing is just as God bought Israelites out by the work that he did he set them free So too Jesus did that with the people of Israel and the Jews as a whole And so in that generic sense their bought I think it's just an illusion that he's trying to get the Jews to see That's what my opinion is because it cannot be that they lose their salvation It's not possible because Jesus says so in John 6 37-40 I agree with you, I'm just having This is going to be the toughest verse I can find Yeah it's a tough one but Deuteronomy 32 6 is in light of the idea of being bought and I think that's what's going on there I appreciate it Thanks sir Alright man, well God bless Alright let's get to Brian from Alabama Brian welcome you're on the air I have a section about the dietary laws on the Old Testament and how that pertains to us in the New Testament Okay we're free to eat anything because we're no longer under the law of Galatians I mean Romans 6 1-4 or Romans 7 1-4 Okay Yes sir okay and because the reason I ask that because in Montgomery we have a real high dealing with I know you've probably heard of them the Hebrew Israelites Yes And I had just wanted to know about that and it's another scripture they use I believe it's out of Deuteronomy 28 Where they talk about this scripture about and you will be carried out over in ships I believe it's Deuteronomy 28 52 I think Where they talk about the Israelites being carried out in ships But if I'm correct that prophecy was already fulfilled and it was a particular Roman I believe it was a Roman general He had sent Israelites back into Egypt to work in Egypt correct and they were brought in in ships So that would pretty much kill that prophecy that they think and that's pertaining to the new people the blacks of the day correct Right yeah the Hebrew the black Hebrew Israelite is a racist organization very racist Yes Just like BLM is racist in my opinion Yes And so what you're talking about is Deuteronomy 28 68 and Yeah that's right It was fulfilled a long time ago it doesn't have anything to do with black people and slaves and things like that It's just not what it's about And that's what's so funny I'm even telling the guy I'm like man that doesn't have anything to do with us and I'm black And I'm telling him like bro that's not that's not talking about us Yeah it says the Lord will bring you back to Egypt in ships Yes Well talk about Egypt if they're gonna say well if they're gonna say well no that means uh to America Well that's America's not Egypt oh it's spiritual Egypt you know then they can do whatever they want and they can make anything say anything So you know that's what it is and yeah it's just a racist or a group it's very racist That is racism Well thank you yeah I know yeah thank you so much man Hey welcome alright buddy God bless you Alright Let's get to Dana from North Carolina Dana welcome you're on the air Hello Hello Hello you're on the air so what do you got Um maybe just a quick question um I was raised in a Lutheran church and I am a Christian and Good But I've always been brought up to believe that when you die you're absent from the body yet present with the Lord 2 Corinthians 5 that's correct That your soul goes immediately up to God Right But I've been hearing a lot and some people believe that that people are just sleeping or the rest in peace until Jesus comes back blowing the trumpets to wake them up Yeah So I don't know which one is correct The it's called soul sleep that the people are asleep and stuff like that that is incorrect it's not true The movement is called annihilationism or soul sleep is a subdivision within annihilationism and I have literally written 182 articles dealing with this topic of annihilationism in all different angles And soul sleep doesn't work now for example in Acts in Luke 16 9 through or 19 through 31 they'll call it a parable but it's not because Jesus says it was Lazarus and a rich man Lazarus is a specific individual it's a name and he said they both died and they're both conscious after death and they're talking Now if they want to say that's a parable then why is Jesus using a lie to illustrate the truth And then what they do with that is really bad and they'll say it has something to do with just trying to teach you a lesson about the importance of something They really butcher it and they do they butcher it And then you can go to 2 Corinthians 12 2 through 4 I'm going to read this slowly because it talks about this and relates to this I know a man in Christ who 14 years ago whether in the body I do not know or out of the body I do not know God knows Such a man was caught up to the third heaven that's a dwelling place of God And I know how such a man whether in the body or out of the apartment the body do not know God knows was caught up into paradise and heard inexpressible words which a man is not permitted to speak So that means outside the body and with a lot of commentators think that this is when he was Paul was stoned and left out the city for dead And he may have just gone to heaven and people have done this over the years and so anyways another topic But he says in the body or out of the body I don't know but he was conscious out of the body Now this is a refutation of soul sleep period and here's a third thing to think about Jesus is by definition both divine and human divine and human he has to be both divine and human because that's what he is If humanity goes to sleep then the attributes of humanity and the activity of humanity are not there In soul sleep what they say about a human person they'll say there's no activity, no thinking, no speaking, no working, nothing Well if that's the case then the human nature of Jesus when he died on the cross that was doing nothing, no awakeness, no awareness, nothing dormant But if that's the case then how do we have the true mediatorship of Christ as the person who is required to have both sets of attributes of the human and the divine ascribed to him Which deals with, I get more complicated stuff, dietheletism and the hypostatic union and what's called the communicatio idiomatum And we don't have time to go into all those but these are the issues that relate and soul sleep presents even more problems We need to look at the nature and person of Christ so just reject annihilationism, reject the soul sleep It's unfortunately increasing here in America and it's not true Right, right, I agree, I just wanted to hear you speak about it and I know what I have believed all my life and still believe So one more little quick question, let me ask you, you hear tell about when people pass that they're watching down over their son or their daughter and all that Me, I just don't think that the Lord would let people watch down to see what their loved one I tell you what, I actually have studied this a bit over the years and read books called NDEs And you know 2 Corinthians 12 lends support to it biblically and there are plenty of documented accounts of people born blind in hospitals who've died on operating tables And have been brought back and then they have described what they saw, the people in hallways and things like that So something's happening but we don't have time to really get into it But since 2 Corinthians 12 seems to support that possibility then we can't say the NDEs are not biblical But they need to all be examined because there's other stuff to it, we just don't have time to get to it right now Alright? Yeah Well you feel very helpful Okay God bless Hey folks we're out of time and the Lord bless you and have a great weekend everyone And by his grace we're back on the air on Monday Bring your questions in, we'll talk to you then God bless Another program powered by the Truth Network