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February 4, 2021 3:00 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Questions include---1- Matt discusses the various non-English sites of CARM and the plans for expansion-translation into other languages.--2- Matt discusses recent online conversations with atheists, particularly focusing on logic.--3- What was going on in Genesis 9-22-25---4- How do both faith and evidence factor into knowing how God has preserved His word- Has God's word been perfectly preserved in written form- Is that what inspiration means---5- Can you explain 2 Chronicles 18-19-20- Why would God send a lying spirit---6- What's your take on four-point Calvinism---7- Can you explain permissive decrees-

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So thank you very much really, really appreciate that one person said this up for the spokes. They spoke French and Madagascar Tylenol Bittner like to be there the bigger all right, folks. Five open lines in a call 877-207-2276. All right the last night it was in the discord talking with some atheists and stuff and they let me just say that they can be quite difficult sometimes and something interesting happened in that try to work with.

They want to put this right like what they want is proof from for God's existence. Using the credit argument for God and they wanted in a certain form, and I find it interesting that when I talk to them about the uniqueness necessary precondition for intelligibility that the fact that that the laws of logic that we use in debates in argumentation in writing and thinking that these are conceptual things and stressing about talk about a little bit.

This might hurt some people's heads, but there's what we call the transcendental argument for God's existence so well they wanted to go phone number out and then can call him and I'll talk about tag here a little bit of the smuggling, but heavy, but I think I can make it simple enough for people to understand could just take a little bit to to come get through it.

So the number. Call 8772072276C bring something from a text yet but Biden then China all right okay so I transcendental is something that exists and has an existence, but is not relegated or not dependent upon space and time. That's really an interesting concept under such things that have existence, but they are not physical and not properties and physical self. We have a bowling ball.

For example, we can take a bowling ball. We can wait to see how much it has much weight it has we could check how much mass it has we could check his volume. We can check its color reflectivity things like that. Its density and so we can measure these things and the reason we can measure them is because they have physical properties, bowling balls, a physical object in the properties of that object are measurable so baseball has properties of rock you got your yard and pick up a rock and you lifted up in your hand and you'll know that has wait. That's because gravity pulls on the mass and pulls it down. He can feel it has a certain density of material is a certain shape certain volume certain colors and things like that. These are properties of that rock. And so the reason we can measure those properties because are physically related. So what we see is that a protected bowling ball.

We can hold our hands. We can measure its weight. We can measure things because it's physically related so what they do when they look at planets and look at stars as they measure light they measure various things and gravitational effect of one body, not a body because there's a physical quality to and physical qualities affect other things around them and they have properties okay so what I thought was talk about. This is a because a thought for that same category. Can you measure a thought. Can you wait to take a picture of it. Can you see how hot it is. Its density intercourse is.

No no no no thoughts. For example, don't have the same properties as a physical object us and that the physical object can be measured. Take a picture of Ken see how hot it is how cold it is how density is whatever but this does not apply to a thought of people might say will thoughts take times take time well thought takes time to exhibit. But that doesn't mean that time is a property.

The thought and so if a thought has existence, but it exists only in the mind and the question becomes is a thought something other than the physical world because you can't measure it any way shape or form is not testable is not repeatable in the sense you can cause it to be us are going to certain things became the rock falling density. Okay, so now think about this 2+2 = 4.

Now I just said that if you were to think that in your head. You know the answers because you you in your mind you understand the concept of two and four and plus and equals now minute, imagine, say a word when you imagine it in your mind the word chair so you think of the chair you can think of any chair you want now, have you think of the different chair is a different look, a different size different patterns of fabric or wood or whatever it might be, so you can think of a chair and I can think of the chair and others were listening to the show can think of the chair. Well what were doing is we are acknowledging the idea or the concept of chair nests, chair nests, the quality of being a chair and there's many kinds enters many shapes and many locations in which the actuality of chair.

This is manifested this issue right here is a very important issue in philosophical discussions. How is it that you can recognize the chair is and I can to and yet we are in different locations and you are seeing something different that I'm seeing or you're matching something different and I imagining that we both realize we all realize what a chair is coming in contact with the idea and the concept of chair nests and this works in all kinds of things carton. This dock this milk nests.

We recognize various things and we have this ability to identify them and the recognition of them is not dependent on our minds. What I mean is, as we see them but the actuality of the quality of chair nests is not depend upon our awareness. What we do is we come in contact with the concept we apprehend this concept of chair nests. It's out there now that step side was a little bit and talk about logic. So, there are logical statements of the law of identity. Something is what it is and is not what it is not the law of non-contradiction. A statement cannot be both true and false at the same time in the same sense the same way.

This was called the law of excluded middle statement is either true or false. These statements are abstractions and abstraction is something that occurs in the mind. You don't find the laws of logic under rocks are behind trees.

You can take pictures of you can't wave them with their abstractions and here's what's neat about you use them, and I use them you come in contact with them and I come in contact with them will then how is it that they have existence.

This is the question what is their nature is their nature. Abstract in that they require a mind further actuality and answers will yes because we can't measure those laws.

We can't take pictures of them but can't find them and say oh here's right here behind that chair doesn't work like that. A lot of philosophers have been thought talking about this. Recognize the transcendental nature of these laws, they transcend space and time are not dependent upon space and time.

That means are not part of the universe because of the universe disappeared and they would be dependent on the University properties of the universe that are not measurable so they can be properties. So what are things there abstractions that break tell you how this connection to the transmittal argument regarding this little boy of five wide-open lines give a call vote 877-2077 60 revolving line of the man's leg.

Why call 770727 charismatic slave Rebecca Silverberg five open lines 877-207-2276. Give me a call. Folks and continue on this issue of the transcendental not being too difficult. But this is really important topic and I use it I teach about acts in various contexts, and the last I was discussing. So these laws of logic. How is it that they have existence in the master question what must be in place in order for those laws to exist. So much being in place for my thought to exist, what must be in place as my existence and my activity of thinking so what are the was called the necessary preconditions for the value of XX being the laws of logic or X being that houses built or X being the coffee is ready, we can say what the necessary preconditions for answer certain things must exist in order for other things to exist, or for we can say other things must exist or have occurred in order for other things to exist and have occurred if these laws always analyze these laws for minute their universal apparently everywhere we go there true and there it depends.

And that doesn't not depend on their validity on for when we are so yesterday there true.

Tomorrow there true today. There true seem to be true everywhere all the time so they have a quality of absoluteness and they have a quality of independence from us that they're not dependent upon us and are not the. Upon the physical universe but yet that the same time, they are also abstractions. They occur in the mind and yet their universal fear in the mind their universal and are absolutely don't change their always true, and are not depend upon the physical realm or our minds, but the laws of logic by nature concepts that occur in the mind by necessity.

So then what we could say is that these transcendental laws are not dependent upon space and time not depend upon your mind or my mind. Our boy they do not change their always true.

Yet they are abstractions which requires a mind, therefore it's logical to say that there is a mind out there an absolute divine mind that is behind and is the necessary precondition for all of the laws of logic is the only way to account for them if we were to say that we could explain the laws of logic without God in a vast atheist.

To do this, please explain how this works and they can't they can say things like the properties of the universe, but that doesn't work, or their things we observe and then we develop constructs based on observation that skull begging the question and presupposing the law of identity show how there been inconsistent and so I got through this over the years tell you something. The atheists hate this argument, and they say repeatedly it's been thoroughly refuted and every single time I asked that reputation is never produced what I believe is that atheists are afraid of this argument because it is so good and so strong that they cannot defeat it.

And so they will say was just been defeated.

When I ask for the arguments it doesn't work. They don't have now one of the things that I have been told is that certain propositions are trivial. Not having this discussion last night they said was one person, a mathematician, philosopher whoever was a direct discussion with you about this and show that it was not true and I said no he did not show electrical show that those that the certain construction in a logical form.

He said was trivial. This is how it works. You have a not a God or not God's, if any, are not a and these are the possibilities for something so you have a or not a not not a is a negation of of the not a therefore eight stitches and so they say it's trivial.

This means that not not a double negative, which affirms a survey and not a was not not a so therefore it's a therefore it's trivial and is a C that invalidates the argument did not doesn't invalidate the argument triviality does not invalidate arguments discussed so when we talk about this kind of a thing to me is interesting and this is what I do. This is because I do at night when I have discussions like this and working through logical paradigms and things like that. So, anyway, that would do that because this calling is when no one calls him to get a little heavy, I guess. And though if you want to give McCall we have four open lines 877-207-2276 when you get a call please do look at the bill from California bill welcome with the wrong button. There we go, bill from California had nobody going on Friday. There was a son of a friend. So much so well you got the guy at King James only people there bring up 300 driving out the first one active treatment but have everlasting life, but rather go to Bladensburg and occur leaves and what you believe the son has eternal life, but he does not obey the son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him. Okay, think of the different explain that okay let me go take a look a text comparison see the new King of the night this way. Alright, so the King James, 1900 this one verse.

Alright so the key believe us on the son hath everlasting life, and he that believe not the son shall not see life of the wrath of God abide abides on him. I don't see any real significant difference from going through and looking garden looking good aims to go ahead, obey your little day okay so looking at the Greek the office at oh is the Greek word, yes.

Okay. So alright not allow himself to be persuaded report believed to be disbelieved to be disobedient, spoken of disbelievers in many places, etc. rights, so the question becomes, why that word gets into this and see okay understand the problem, but he who does not so wise of believe versus obey asked the question you leave office at always the same Greek word, but they use believe in the King James alright so today we want to do. There is not a textual variant issue.

So the word is 544 occurs 14 times and all of them except for two places in the NASB are translated as disobedient.

First Peter two 417. Those who do not obey the gospel of God's and the not day and the other one so there's no and those little vague. I don't see any necessity for belief, break, Québec readback bulge of River Lodge. McCall, 7776 max Y call 770-7276 charismatic slave better, but we have open lines going to give me a call 877-207-2276 bill you still there is a little bit of photo researcher to break down the so it's the word is a hypothetical in the a on the front is the gator like atheism or agnostic and sourced in the gator and its it's number 544 so it's me to be disobedient to not allow oneself to be persuaded or to believe it is to disbelieved to be disobedient. The NASB translates it that way of disobedience.

See labels since there disobedient is how it is used mostly and not believing so.

CSB the Christian standard Bible. Some say it relates is as sometimes as disbelieved so well disbelieved. Also can be both the NASB just is not believe, but the say obey James knowing you and is pretty vague. One expert, or believe for both work okay yeah it's it's okay this one. It doesn't mean one is better than the other is just thinking JC proceed means that it there's better why: Lordship salvation worked much obey their wealthy Janice is not believe in. That's correct about werewolf pulse obey the son he says come to me as a command.

Love everyone.

Also do that and so come to Christ to be saved, and also goes obey what he says so is not a big deal right now I think it goblet what he thinks: all right hey folks, three open lines 877-207-2276 is good to Joe from Australia hey Joe, welcome remarks, flicking every is I can hear you loud and clear. We should you call and so are you there will undoubtedly looking every yes I can hear you I hear you and I went on a beach that was going on but I can hear you or for minute. Yes, I can hear you all thought it might. I'm fine just sitting here of doing radial wheel in the Idaho and you're in Australia where are you in Australia capital okay letters but all right but that update drug when given up both in presenting God's grace. So we got a question of God ought okay why all the look signal 'yeah yeah that in that culture. The time it was very disrespectful to view your father in his nakedness. It was a sign of disrespect and humiliation before the father and so in that there was at issue in their some commentators that you might've been a hint of the idea. The problem of homosexuality, but I don't really think it really carries much weight in that particular argument, but yet he was drunk and also he blow like an immortal sissy. So that's it, but but that what you about the because even though Noah was one who was drunk. Apparently in that culture. At that time it was like is it a sign of great disrespect to uncover your father's nakedness, or to see if you had known he was in that state. Then it they should have had the wife go in, or they do is they go in backwards with the garments walk and you cover to show that respect. Apparently that that so you don't make this.that is what they did but not really what happened either knowledge. It's a tough is that they did that they sedate me to cover up both her shoulders and walked backwards and covered nakedness of the father, and her face were turned away so that the research that classic that's going to be going more curious here why would that be the issue backward hold. That's exactly what I would've thought they were done on the research okay I will research Christ might give thanks for the well you yeah currency curses for the service you figure out what's going on all right the right. In an article about answering it through noncarbon okay no art, okay, no problem meant. God bless. All right God bless a folks want to give McCall for open lines 877-207-2276 lines Rob from Utah Rob welcome on their radar… Or the FedEx freight different. You're welcome. Thank you sir. My question, your spot for you about the doctrine of the Scriptures and how we determine what been preserved by God. We approach the Scriptures by faith that God has promised to give us his word and to preserve us his word like paragraph of the third lease and I live by bread alone, but by every word of mouth.start with faith that God has that were to live by every word we not like continue in faith believing that we will have every word in our generation to you saying that the issue continuing faith for the purpose of knowing God will remain and be true for certain where I'm coming from the grip we approach God's word.

God's promise, then wouldn't we have been perfectly preserved and then if we have all the versions always different reading rendering at what point do we rely on evidence versus faith look at how got it there. Bill versus creditor will believe not based on evidence. We know that the evidence in Scripture is Jesus Christ died, rose across eyewitnesses rodent and these documents are accurately presented in the now we have the faith that is reliable. The faith and can verify every single detail throughout history the transmission all along the way so that they cover and belief. Obedience is like that and it is are all interrelated. So it is an interesting thing because the Bible is not been perfectly preserved and mean by that is that over the years. For example, in the New Testament in Greek. There are so few places where there are copies differences in some of the copies in most of their dislike of spelling of the word or like a single word like the word thought, which is the which is the oh with a little, over that's the word, which is that the word not with ethical thinking can flake off on a document parchment to work the pottery being in a Nevada a van as Voss jar for 200 years full it out. They open it up and will flake comes off you can happen then the copy that and then the data put the flake on because not there and sweep of the lycées perfectly covered preserve. Not exactly what the documents are to be like 99, 25% textually identical old ones and where there are copyist errors or flakes offer things like that I think is a bit like 98% of those are not even an issue is only very very few places where there's any differentiation of Acer's consideration. Okay so we have faith know that God's word is been preserved.

We have to have faith that God is certainly capable of preserving his word throughout the central using various means to do that and we have that because we know that God is great and God is emotional and omnipotent, etc. and so we can know that he will preserve his word and he has and he done that.

So the evidence is there and we can trust it so I have extremely high view of of the word of God very very I feel and like I caught it constantly and unapologetically with unbelievers uncle the word of God for what would they got it promised a perfectly preserved ability third live by every word you come from this generation are forever solved 12 women were not aware of the promises and the break break a folks, please recall for the lines 87707.

The mass Y call 770727. Here is Matt's leg but it will come back to the show. Hey just let you guys know that were going to try get going. The karma card trip to Israel next year 2022. If you want to check it out to go to Israel with me and a few others well all you do is click harm and will forward you to another websites and is a survey there for questions. That gives us an idea of the interest that people might be having in considering going and then if we do have enough we can push it forward if we don't, we won't so will will know that by around March sometime in late March. So is giving you some information karma website artist get back on the phones with the CS Rob is so you say that this issue of the Bible and there is no promise that God will perfectly preserve the copies of the documents.

Inspiration applies to the original documents.

People don't know that the autographs that's how it is so. The Bible says that not one jot or two will pass away from the law of the Scriptures is not saying that the copies themselves will always be actively preserved, but it is but it's probably getting at is that the nature of God's word.

The truth that is that is written there and what God is stated none of us can pass away cultural now we have the reality of textual variants were some to consider a textual variant might be considered to be in the same level as a translation problem because if the inspiration is of the original in Hebrew and Greek word translated the Greek into English. Then we have to ask these kind of questions how inspired is the English version. What we would say is that we have a date and accurate translation of inspired document will then audit the translations inspired well-known or not, that perfectly preserve that perfectly pure and great in every single detail all the time will that it brings up other issues that will and what is the inspired word of God, and some say will inspired word of God becomes inspired when you read it.

We want to go that way want to say that what God is done is written inspired documents through the prophets and apostles and edit sufficient in its power and its scope that no matter what language we translated into we can touch that inspiration can be affected by the inspiration of God, carries with it the power of the nature of his words, which is not limited by a translation and so this is the idea of inspiration. The truth of God's word must apply to the originals and also the copies, and even the translations in other languages, and so this is how that works. Is it big topically leave or not it really is and say what we'll do now is get on the phone with Debbie from Winston-Salem, North Carolina. We welcome your on the high looking at them now.

Number 19 and number 21 are the lower lying. Going camping down Doing more with them really good now will go a speaking plane and dad, why would God send a deceiving spirit that came out if they are interested in the north where we bring a theory in the Napa Valley profit – antitank positive avail go out any outline. From heaven now with United story line for her to it know why God would do it that way. I don't know why I think it is because of the Bible to say why he would use that method when he could've gotten underway so I can bite you now gather on the hereby lighter than your knowing that whatever I got a date when I leave up there and I would get one of my like now we believe it. Many good, but Jeremy may be viewed at the thing is extant. Take the text does not tell us why with them. 11. Motivation is but we know that he sent it in order to bring about a certain result.

The question generally asked is what why would guys a deceiving spirit is not the sizing deception himself with a link in the what's called proximate and efficient causation. This may sound highfalutin, but the idea is that the actual act of deceiving is done by a false spirit and God allow that smart to go forward to accomplish with God ultimately wanted to be done a certain actually brought about a certain way and so he's not one.

It's like water behind the dam. You know the water is trickling out or whatever if he takes the dam away or put pokes a hole in it the water to flow naturally. He's not cotton was causing the water to flow its part of nature. But it is what is permitting it to do what's already there, and so this is kind. Now that I don't like the questions on the line he didn't tell us. I yeah this is one of them was a guy doesn't doesn't tell us, and so would number the cassettes we deal with the issue of responsibility, causation and stuff like that. Let's get the phones with allies for Massachusetts life. Your on their map figure. I don't do all right.

Hang in there buddy Woody got a car like to quickly thing opened up her question might be quickly answered, wondering what your take on four-point cabinet. I know what I read online in YouTube, the habit they say they say. Leo four-point John Cowan and felt didn't say anything about limited atonement artist wanting what your view on that okay. He said several things to which one what was the wood will be focusing which which part of what your take on people who claim their four-point cabinet called Demerol Diggins and they deny limited atonement yet they're just my opinion. It is inconsistent mental okay okay and and neglected us to Great Britain get clarification on number of working video view Woodland flowers is not about free will, and cream thing and how to getting a clarification.

Basically God he could. I remember you explaining about the decree where you know basically when Eva comes about by God decreed and obviously got committed basically that correct that will okay let's just look at it this way, God can direct decree or indirectly decree so God can cause something to happen. So let's say there's a boulder that's ready to roll down the hill and God walks up to that boulder and he pushes it and it rolls down the hill directly caused it.

Let's say God wants that boulder to roll down the hill, but he sits there and waits until the natural forces of road the foundation that boulder and it rolls down the hill both instances, he wanted to occur, he could certainly bring about erosion a different place and time at different rates bring about that the boulder would move at a certain time sewing in the first one he's directly causing it in the second one he's indirectly permitting it. But even the indirect cause can only occur by God's will, because, in the sense in the illustration of the boulder in the hill.

The boulders there because God wanted it there and the hill is there because God wanted there and so's gravity is not a good existence. God wanted him to be there so we talk about the this kind of an inanimate thing we can see. Okay it makes more sense how that would work will be get into the issue of personal responsibility, free will and causation decrees aggressive, more complicated, what would say that is what if there was a a person standing next that boulder and God wanted that person to push that boulder over now in the first sense God himself could make the boulder go down the hill. What he wants. That person that man let's say to cause that boulder to go over… I guess what God wants wants him to do it. Can God put a thought in his mind to do it. Yes. Can he cause a strain of gold to be underneath that boulder. The menses and the man pushes it over to get more is lots of ways were God can bring about exactly what he desires bite, so to speak. Not violating the free will of an individual so she can bring about whatever he desires whatever means he wants and so since he would be let's say puts the gold strand or whatever it is a goal thing on it that boulder has one set goal to push a little so he's caused the man to freely act the way God wanted him to go to see their right. So basically when it when it comes to know people with all nature of the have free will and that nature like you explain reality God permit the committed thin with each of the top right nature, that he gave us correct whenever anybody actually phone with the click the connection to, but whenever anybody acts believe are unbelievably have to act in a manner consistent with her nature.

The unbeliever will act in a manner freely act in a manner consistent with his enslavement to sin will always act freely in a simple way right so he can range from doing one thing. One day, but then maybe found in patients and think in the next day. Yes nest that applies to believers as well. The idea is that an unbeliever is a slave of sin, but a Christian is not unbelievers born is not born again Christian.

Is it so we can choose not to sin and actually glorify God were an unbeliever cannot ever because they don't have the proper standard which is the word of God due to the sanctifying blood of Christ. So therefore the goodness is not not goodness at all. Right and they are appreciating our you doing a minute. You have thoroughly help me understand you note for one theology I met briefly getting into that great in rescuing out compatible with in free will and all that yes not that hard.

Was he will get a few things down. They got all it all makes sense right and might and in that video with you and land flowers atop a figure prevail at M, I noticed you guys acknowledge that you formed or not reform both sides are trying to go out with worded that you keep God holy in all but did not attribute attribute, and for God are trying to do that they can still when they went on here: Faye O God decreed everything about including thin, but the Natalie. I quickly lighted shooting. Thank God that I kinda effort that will right and so they don't understand what we mean by because, to be perfectly frank reform theology requires more brain selectivity than the other stuff and not that you're at if you're smart, you believe that if you're not, you don't is not the issuances that we look at scriptures that are a little more difficult to analyze and try put them together and we see some stuff and that's it and it takes a while subtype people to get to that level and that this may not say that they don't love Jesus death is important that all the counts. Okay, right, and they will not things, of the time when there's music so I called back to our back on the Monday okay but all right folks are but that was a time. Sorry Robert North Carolina the Lord bless you and folks by God's grace were back on the air on Monday.

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