Matt Slick Live

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All right, everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live. As usual, if you want to give me a call, the number is 8772-07-2276. And I want to hear from you, give me a call. You can also send me an email.

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So, I got a call coming in. We got other stuff going on. I spent a couple of hours last night on um on uh discord. talking to Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics. And um You know, it's interesting.

I'm not sure how to articulate what I'm thinking. The difficulty. dealing with them. In their inability to be critical and logical, and their inconsistencies, and they can't see it. And this happens a lot.

And as I said before, uh this always happens too, almost always, but so close to always. I'll be in the room, right? And we'll be discussing things. And students get heated because after a while I'm refuting them, refuting them. And I'll ask a question.

They don't answer my question. I'll say, that's not what question I asked. And then they go, Yes, it was. No, it wasn't. And we go back and forth like this.

And then they get interruptive. And I say, please, let's not get interruptive. And so they'll interrupt, and I'll say, please again. This goes on and on and on. And then when I interrupt them, they're.

It always happens. Their guys jump in and go, You're being a hypocrite, Matt. You're not innocent. And I said, Why is it you guys never get your own guys? And I call them hypocrites for that because they're only out there waiting to devour, to deceive.

uh to uh to cause problems. And one of the things I've noticed that I think is particularly interesting is the notion of idolatry with them The idolatry that is so prevalent in Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism, in that the church is the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody comes to true salvation outside of those churches. And that is the idolatry of their churches. Because when you talk to them and you ask them what must you do to be saved.

you know, half the time they'll just right away mention it, you gotta be a member of our true church. And a lot of times, what they'll talk about is the necessity of belonging to their particular church. and then they attack Protestant churches as not being authentic. It's always about church. It's never about Christ and Him crucified.

I can tell you, it is never, never said. That you, that salvation and justification is by faith in Christ. You've got to trust Jesus, that you've got to come to Christ for salvation. Never do they say that. It's always the works they got to do by the authority of their church.

It's always that and that Ladies and gentlemen, it's flat out idolatry. They are idolaters, and the Bible says idolaters will not inherit the kingdom of God. And they are not only idolaters in that sense. It's called ecclesiology. Ecclesiae is the Greek word for church, gathering church.

And idealtri, right?

So ecclesioletri, they're they're church servants, church worshipers. Even though they don't worship the church, and then they get trying to get technical. We don't worship the church. No, but you behave as though it is the replacement of Christ. Because each church, each one of those, claims to be the way to God, the truth about God.

uh the life is uh you have is in the church. and that you can't come to salvation or the Father unless it's by the Church.

So, Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody comes to the Father but by Him. With them, their church is the way, the truth, and the life, but nobody comes to the truth. or salvation except by them. This is what their official teachings are.

And you will hear occasionally.

Some people say, no, there's exceptions. But the history of their own churches shows that. No, you have to have salvation by church association. not Christ Association. Church association.

And this is all the more convincing to me that of what Jesus said. In the last days, it would occur. And what I want to do before we go to the callers. Uh Is go through some of the things that the Bible says are some of the signs of the end times. I wrote an article.

On this, called What Are Some of the Signs of the N Times? that back in 2017. And um At the bottom of the article I'm just going to go through, there'll be presence of false Christs and false prophets.

Now that fits obviously Mormonism right there and Jehovah's Witnesses. There'd be wars and persecution of the faithful, apostasy. And I think that is a great example of the East Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches are a great example of apostasy. Uh And one of the things I find out is, or I discover, is their determination of truth is never biblical, it's always historical. It's they never when I say well how do you know your church is true?

They never say then it has to do with what the word of God says. It is the traditions and their authority passed down apostolically through history. Etc. And this is where their truth is. In fact, last night a guy tried to tackle me in one of the articles I wrote that they don't the their churches don't manifest the apostolic authority.

And healing the sick, raising the dead, cleansing lepers on command. And this one guy, he comes in and he says in Matthew 16, that the disciples could not cast out demons. Do they still have apostolic authority?

So yeah, they they still did, even though they failed to manifest. He says, Good, then casting out demons is not the proof of apostolic authority. And I said to him, What you're saying is the lack of evidence is your apostolic authority because you want to say it's passed down, but then how do you know that it's passed down correctly? And where's the biblical evidence that is passed down? And when I asked him that question, he went to Timothy laying on of hands, and I just, you know, I just took, peeled his argument apart because it didn't work.

I said, the issue here is how do you know that the apostles you have apostolic authority? Not how you don't know, but how you do know by the miracles and the works that the churches are not doing it. And well, I'll tell you, they work so hard. They work so hard to. to fight and to get people into the true church.

It's always about their church. And also, some of the times, some of the signs of the times, be love of money and pleasure, arrogance, mocking of Jesus, and increase in knowledge, arises spiritism.

Now, spiritism. I'm gonna talk about this a little bit. Spiritism is interesting. Because one of the guys there said something very interesting. That I'm not saying he represented everybody, but the Bible says there'll be a rise of spiritism in 1 Timothy 4:1.

There'll be rising of deceitful spirits and things like this.

Well, in Mormon, excuse me, in Mormonism, there's the doctrine of the deceitful spirit of Moroni. In In Catholicism, there's a deceitful spirit of Mary where they say it's really Mary, but I've read quotes of them before. It's just obviously they're not of Mary. They're demonic manifestations, seeking sacrifices to repair sins against Mary. It's just ridiculous.

Spiritism is a belief that practice of communicating with the spirits and the dead through mediums and seances and other means. Yeah.

So that's spiritism.

Now, spiritism is on the rise in the world. There's close to a, but last I heard, it was about 72 to 75 million. And it's on the rise, so I'm going to assume by now there's probably 80 million in the world, but it's not an official number I have.

Well, the reason it's interesting is because um This guy was talking about last night. I said, How do you know? What is true, blah, blah, blah. And he's a Catholic, I think, or Eastern Orthodox. He said, they believe in affirmed mysticism.

And I said, what? Mysticism? Yeah, through mysticism, we can gain this knowledge. And uh Wow. I said, mysticism is trying to gain divine knowledge.

Through Uh oh. Union. With the spiritual realm, let's just say. And I said it's a subdivision of spiritism. And what they'll do is they try and contact dead spirits.

which is um you know, contact with Mary and the saints. Forbidden by Scripture. Anyway, it's really interesting. A lot of stuff going through and dealing with. And I'm thinking more and more of not doing so much of that anymore as well as just writing books.

And because I'm getting in that mood again where I want to write books and stuff like that and get into some things. But anyway, there you go. Just kind of rambling. All right. Interesting stuff, I think.

Let's get to Jermaine from California. Jermaine, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt, today I wanted to discuss Psalm 82. And the divine counsel view of especially verse one.

I don't know if you're familiar with the work of like Michael Heiser and some of the others who. who take that view and I wanted to hear what you had to say about it because it seems he's arguing from a point of view of how those who existed in those times may have approached the scripture believing that. There were there were maybe other beings and and not to get too weird here, but How God is absolutely. above everything but Maybe there were other Beings or creatures we're not aware of. that we're not demons that are not mentioned.

I I just wanted to hear what you had to say about that. Right. Yeah, I've read Heiser's material and um I I was reading two or three of his chap chapters of his book and I s I quit uh because well, you know, I read a few chapters, I I saw his style and there were several things in there I thought he made mistakes on. But um there are two main schools of thought on this. God three kind of, but uh God takes a stand in his own congregation, or um as it says there, I believe it's uh Elohim.

And uh Congregation, no, that was not Elohim. And congregation.

So it's Adat. That's right. That's what it is. Amidst of the rulers. And that's the word.

Judges, amidst of the rulers, and that's the word Elohim. Anyway, so one theory is that there is a well, let's just use the word council, of beings that are up there in heaven, angelic realms of different levels, and that God stake takes his stand among them and he's the supreme one.

Now, that's a view that could be used by cults and aberrant groups to say that there are other heavenly beings that are called Elohim, and therefore Yahweh is simply one of the Elohim. And then you can get into the problems of polytheism and monolatry and things like that. That's one of the views. Another view is that it's an exaggeration. uh or representation of cr of God being supreme upon upon and beyond and within all theoretical concepts of God.

Or God or gods. And he takes a stay in his own congregation. He judges the midst of the rulers. And the psalm is an imprecatory psalm, it's a psalm of condemnation. and judgment because of the last verse.

It says, Nevertheless you will die like men. In verse seven, and then it says last verse is Arise O God, judge the earth.

So it's an imprec imprecation, which is to wish harm upon someone. And people don't know this, but there's a lot of imprecatory psalms where the psalmist says. get them, break their teeth, destroy them, you know, things like that.

Okay.

So What I see, what I lean towards, is that this is the phrase in verse one. Is not that there are other Elohim out there as though Yahweh is a class or a member of that group. I deny that because the Bible says Yahweh is Elohim in 1 Kings 8:60. He is God. He is the one.

This is an imprecatory psalm, so how I interpret it is that this is God showing his superiority over all concepts and ideas. of who and what gods and rulers might be. And that's what I see it to be. And it's an imprecation against the unrighteous Jews who were not. rescuing the needy and the weak.

And so then judgment comes upon them where it says, you will die like men. You're false judges in Israel. They're being condemned. Hold on, brother. We got a break coming up.

Be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Hello, Robert.

Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, we have one open line, 877-207-2276. Let's get back on with. Germaine.

Alright, Germaine. Back on here, buddy. What do you got? Uh Yeah, um ju just wanted to represent I do believe that Dr. Heiser was a believer, just like yourself and others.

He had some. Things that some might find controversial, but you know, I don't mind because it causes us to think. And I, I, from what I understand, I'm halfway through his book, The Unseen Realm. From what I understand, He's floating out. just views of how people may have viewed that scripture.

I think too many people Automatically feel threatened and start accusing people of outright heresy and not being a believer. But I just love to explore. all views of the scripture just to to get a complete look at it.

So That's why I uh I come to Carm to give some of my answers here. Yeah, that's a wise thing to do, is read different views.

Now, when I was reading his book, The Unseen Realm, I'm trying to open it up, but there it is, to see if I can find some of the things I highlighted for comments.

Now they updated the system I use. Oh my goodness, look at that.

So it might not include the highlights. I'm hoping it does.

So I can focus on yeah, there we go. Uh Yeah, he said some good stuff, the DJ Christ. Um Yeah, the unseen realm interaction with human. Anyway, looking for some of the stuff because I remember highlighting, going, and there were some things I just wasn't convinced of.

So uh Right from the start, that God has company other divine beings, the sons of God. And then, first, we learned that the sons of God are divine. They are intelligent, non-human beings. The Sons of God are real divine entities created by Yahweh, the God of Israel.

Well the problem here is uh Uh They're divine, but what does that really mean? How should we think of them in relation to God? And that's the right question He does ask. And I forgot what it was that uh that he was saying, but I think, if I remember correctly, he didn't define divinity and the uniqueness of God at that time. And so I remember being concerned about that.

Anyway, that's what I'd read. Those are some of the notes. I've been in chapter 3, looking through some of the stuff. But God's attributes aren't look at this. But God's attributes aren't what makes him un Elohim.

makes him one of them.

Okay, that's a warrant, that's not good. The Old Testament writers understood that Yahweh was an Elohim, but no other Elohim was Yahweh. God doesn't need a counsel, but it's scripturally clear that he has one.

So the statement He's just one of the Elohim.

Now, what does he mean by that? Is he saying their idea of different gods, or there's a class of being called Elohim, and he's one of them? That's the question. And so that's why I I my eyebrows are rising quite a bit going wait what's going on here. All right.

Yeah, and deservingly so. I'm halfway through. I have the audiobook version because there's too many books to read. But I do believe he addresses some of that, and I believe he added some clarification.

Okay, good. But yeah, no, I appreciate it, Matt. Thanks for. Bringing up this uh this topic to discuss. All right.

Well, okay, man, you brought it up. Good stuff. And if you can understand where he said better than what I do, that's fine. I just have so many things to do. I don't read books very much anymore.

In fact, someone sent me a book in the mail. I can't read it. You know, hey, where's this book? Review the book. Do this.

You know. I'm just inundated. But anyway, appreciate it, brother. Appreciate the call. Yeah, that's why I do audiobooks.

Appreciate you, Mag. God bless you. Have a good weekend. You too, man. God bless.

Alright.

Well, that was Germaine. Let's get to Scott from Washington. Scott, well. Scott, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, how's it going? I had a quick question. I think I got two, but they're both real fast.

So the first one is You know, we're told in the scriptures that You know, we will be held accountable or judged for every idle word that we speak. And My question is: How does that apply to us if we're saved and justified? Is it simply reward stuff? Is that the only.

Well, yeah, here's the thing about this. This is Matthew's Got a lot of background noise there, man. Got a lot of background noise. Yeah, sorry about that. I stopped there.

So it says, Jesus says in Matthew 7. Matthew 7:2, for in the way you judge, you'll be judged by your standard of measure, it'll be measured to you.

So these idle words are the things that God's going to measure you by, what you say, what you do, what you affirm. We've got to mute you.

Okay, hold on. We gotta mute you 'cause there's way too much background noise. And so the idea of idle words Will deal with rewards, loss of rewards in heaven. It does not deal with justification or sanctification. It's gonna be justification of being made right with God.

So a lot of people don't know that we're saved by God's grace, but we're gonna be judged. by God for our works and what we have done and not done for Him on earth.

Now, this is not taught in a lot of churches, but it is a truth, and it needs to be taught because people need to be aware. That they're responsible to God for what they say, what they do, and how they use the giftings that God has given them for the kingdom of God. He doesn't give you gifts so you can sit around and do nothing. You want to use them for the glory of God. Different gifts have different manifestations of how that is and different times and seasons when they're used.

But the overall thing is we've got to, that has to be preached and taught and expanded on in the churches. Anyway, okay, Scott?

Okay, thanks. And then, just last question. You might have told me this once before, maybe in the car or something, one time, but have you ever experienced the gift of chance being You know, being used and interpreted right before you? Have you ever seen that happen? No, I've seen.

Um I've had people speak tongues in front of me, but not interpreted, and that was fine. The context was permissible. I don't know what that background noise is, buddy, but that's Yeah. Um And so I don't have any problem with that, but I haven't had experience. No, not in fact.

Okay, all right.

Okay, yeah. All right, cool. That was it.

Sorry about the background noise. I'm working, so my bad.

Okay.

Alright, sounds good. All right, man. Talk to you.

Okay, talk to you, Shen.

Okay, bye.

Okay.

Alright, now let's get to Alberto. From Georgia, Alberta, welcome. You're on the air. Yes, good evening, Maslick. My question is in Matthew twenty four, verse forty eight through fifty one.

The evil service, some people say applies to Christians. Is that true or not? The evil servant? No. Yeah.

Um We're not evil servants. We are those who. Who will proclaim the name of Christ imperfectly? But we're not evil servants.

Okay?

So, so I hear preachers sometimes: if a Christian is not really serving the Lord right. you know, here in the earth. treating his brother or sister wrongly. And if it is more concernedly, I'm not sure what you're asking, but no, we're not evil servants. Christians can certainly make mistakes and do things that are bad, but they're not designated as evil servants.

Okay, it's good because I hear preachers sometimes in the radio, they say, like, pastors. They'll say like if I like I said, if a believer is not treating his brother right, doing wrong, and said the Lord comes suddenly, unexpectedly, You know, he was he'd be he'll be or with the hypocrites. Basically, yeah, that that's gonna s just I just gotta say this, that that that kind of preaching is just stupidly bad. It's just moronic. I wish pastors would study and realize that making statements like that is just not helpful, not biblical, not logical, just not true.

Hey brother, hold on, we got a break. And be right back, folks, after these messages, please. Stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

All Robert, welcome back to the show. Mm. By the way, uh they should drive s not drive safe, you drive safely. Yeah.

Let's get back to Alberto. Are you there, buddy? Yes, sir. I'll cut a quick one more quick question. Have you ever heard this ministry called Grace Message by Andrew Farley?

He teaches that. Christians don't have a wicked heart. Right. Well, how come the Bible says in the New Testament God commands us to guard our hearts.

So if our heart's not wicked, why does he command us to guard our hearts? What you do, you often ask questions about individuals, what their motives are, what they're thinking, and things like that. I can't really address that. Yeah, but well uh that's what they teach.

Okay.

Yeah, so they teach.

So so if they teach that don't have a wicked heart, what God's commands are guard our hearts.

Okay, so I'm just saying, I I don't know what they're just teaching, I don't know how accurate that is. And uh I don't know. I can't comment on him. But I can say that people who say that Christians don't have a wicked heart, what do they mean by that? What's the context of what they're saying?

Are they saying we don't have a wicked heart in that we're not regen or that we're regenerated and the Lord lives in us? And so we don't have wickedness like that.

Well, that would be true. On the other hand, is he saying we don't have a wicked heart in that we never sin or can't sin?

Well, that would not be true. This is why he'd say I have to know what they mean in the context.

Okay.

Well, he's well, he's saying God gave us a new heart.

So, since he gave a new heart. heart of flesh, so that means we can we don't no longer have a wicked heart. That's what he means by it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'd have to know the context of what he's saying.

Because a lot of times people will say things. and they're taken out of context. And I know this happens to me a great deal. People will misrepresent me all the time, and they they do in videos and comments and things like that. And so I've learned over the years to tell them, did you read the context?

You look at the context. to know what was actually being said. And that's why I'm just trying to defend the issue of: I don't know the context of what he's saying. And there's two options we could look at and I address both of them.

Okay?

Okay, all right.

Okay.

Thank you. It's only fair to understand. All right. Thank you. God bless you.

Keep it a great word, Mac.

Okay, man. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it.

Okay, bye-bye.

So, if you want to give me a call, you can. The number is easy: 877-2077. 2276. I want to hear from him. Give me a call.

We don't have anybody waiting right now, so maybe I'll get into.

some uh there's some questions. Let's get the first one here. First one.

Okay.

I am a periodic listener. My question involves salvation. Do women possess automatic guaranteed salvation by birthright? Whew. Because the King James states that Um that Jesus came that all men might be saved.

Uh I'm trying to see the connection here. Between Women automatically having salvation by birthright. because the King James says that he might save all men. I'm not sure I see the connection between those two categories. But he goes on, can it be demonstrated from Strong's and the original Greek and Aramaic that men specifically refers to both genders?

Yes, it does.

Okay, it's many times it's used that way in the Bible. If not, if a male transitions to Uh to female do they If not, If a male transitions to a female, Does he or she lose their guaranteed spiritual birthright and therefore guaranteed salvation that they would have automatically by virtue of being born female?

Okay.

Um The question doesn't seem to be worded logically. And uh That's a different kind of a question. It's an interesting question, let me just say. Women uh do women possess automatic guaranteed salvation by birthright? No.

Because the King James says that all men might be saved. All men might be saved doesn't mean women automatically have the birthright salvation.

So I don't see the connection between those, there's no logical point. And then it says. Can it be demonstrated from strong gender, blah, blah, blah? That's man's, yeah, already answered that, but it refers to both genders. That's true, so it does.

But if not, well, since it does, then the following stuff doesn't really. Really follow.

Okay, so let's see if we can get to another one. Matt, how about a pastor sharing the gospel with someone telling them they can? come freely, but the pastor knows it takes a work of the Holy Spirit that no one can come freely.

Okay, what do you want me to say? How about this?

Well, um, I I Uh I'd like to be able to interview such people to see what they're actually saying and intending. Because, and what's the context of saying freely come? Because the Bible does talk about us coming to Christ. And we do believe, we do receive Christ, John 1:12 and 13. But God grants those things to us.

So I don't know exactly what's being said. and or the context of what's being said so it's difficult to answer that one. Um Alright, uh let's see how about this one uh Do you believe women can be abusive verbally and physically? Yes. In fact, the statistics show that.

Women are very much abusive physically. And I saw a statistic that actually, I think it was from the CDC. where it says that women were more violent than men in marriages. Uh that was really surprising. I remember reading the statistic from a reputable source.

Anyway, why do you think society in and outside of the church have a hard time believing that women can be abusive? specifically mutters. Uh because of conditioning. Uh I'd recommend, in this context, read or see the documentary this young woman did called The Blue Pill. And I really recommend you guys read it or see it.

I've seen it two or three times. I want to watch it again. She is a feminist, but who wants to go I'm trying to represent this accurately She thinks men are Um little privileged uh perhaps and that things aren't that fair ag aren't that unfair about with them. Anyway, long story short, she interviews people, interviews men, and is shocked by the reality. and she says at the end she's not so sure she's a feminist anymore.

And they interview a very foul-mouthed woman, red-hair, big red, I think they call her, just foul, just. Exactly when woman is not supposed to be. Just horrible. and uh other women who are very intelligent and uh calm and weren't foul and presented facts and information. And um And anyway, one of the things that was surprising was that.

Now to remember the statistics, this is from the movie, the documentary, The Red Pill. And um In America, I remember the number. At this one point.

So if I get the numbers exactly incorrect, it's not intended. Trying to remember.

Something like 2,000. homes existed for women being abused, they could flee. And there was only one Yeah, yeah. In the entire United States, just one. And they interviewed a bunch of women and I forget what context, and they were talking about how they're violent to their husbands.

I mean, beat them up and do all kinds of stuff, and men won't fight back. And there's stigma to this. It's really interesting, it's called the Red Pill. Or the blue pill? Red pill.

Red pill. What is that movie? The Red Pill or The Blue Pill now? Oh man. The documentary, I think it's the red pill.

Let's see if I'm right. Anyway, but if father is abusive, it's already no questions asked and automatically believed. That's right. There is, and not just from that. Yeah, it's a movie called The Red Pill.

My bad. It's taken from the Matrix.

Now. Um I've seen lots of videos. and lots of stuff. There's uh a movement called Migto. Men going their own way, where they are abandoning seeking the company of women because it's too dangerous.

There's a lot of documentation for this and So, I've been watching a lot of stuff, and apparently, um Men are not wanting to get married and get involved with women here in America because. it it's too risky for them. All a woman has to do is accuse a guy and he's guilty. If a man accuses a woman, Then he's the one who suspect. And it's just geared that way that men are at the short end of the stick constantly.

and there's stories after stories after stories like this. And women will lie, not all women, just hang it to these stories, they'll lie, and men are just raked over the coals. And then, when he finds out that the woman lied and cost him his job, you know, finances, nothing happens to her. And it's just really interesting to see what's going on. It's a real attack against masculinity and men.

And it's true. Father's abuse of it's automatically believed. I knew a guy personally. Personally, with roommates, and he told me that a woman in the neighborhood just accused him of doing something bad to a young one. Just accused him.

And he he swarping down on the Bible. He says it never happened, it was never that case. He's got his own kid, the whole thing. She was out for him. He lost his job.

He lost his house. His his property was vandalized. The whole bit. And he didn't do anything. And I know another story.

of stuff like this going on. All it takes is an accusation.

Now why is that spiritually like that? We write back after these messages, please. Stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Welcome back to the show. I did a little bit of research during the break on statistics and stuff out of the movie The Red Pill, uh the documentary and uh and other stuff which I've known about before. I've never really put things together, but just you know, it's just something I'm interested in. And uh male suicide rates, uh men are three to four times more likely than women. that varies in by country.

Custody disparities, men receive primary custody in roughly ten percent to twenty percent of contested custody cases. Workplace deaths, men account for roughly ninety percent of work base workplace fatalities. And it's something like ninety eight percent in military. Criminal justice sentencing, men receive longer average sentences than women for the same crime. Educational performances.

This is a real interesting one, I think. In many Western countries, boys or men, I should say, underperform girls or females in reading and educational attainment at certain levels. I think that's interesting. I really do think that's an interesting one. Why is that the case?

And I also know that there are more women in college than men now. And I've seen so many stories of women who They want men to be everything to them and also basically read their minds and know how to please them and a whole bit. And 70% of divorces are initiated by women. Anyway, homelessness, men, uh comprise a a high si uh great s more uh men are are homeless than women. And mental illness also.

Men are way higher than women on this.

Now, we could make jokes, we could, and some funny ones, you know. But what's going on? I think it's a spiritual issue here behind it, underlying the attack of federal headship, of male representation, because the male represents Christ in the marriage, whether he likes it or not. This is biblically sound, and I can show you that. But it might be a demonic work through the secular.

Realms, let's just say, to attack that very representation. It would make sense, wouldn't it? Ooh. Let's try this. Let's try Patrick from North Carolina.

Patrick, welcome. You're on the air. Uh hello, Matt. Thanks for taking my call. That's right.

And wh what's I mean, what's up? What do you got? My uh question is uh Genesis twenty two one It says, Sometime later, God tested Abraham. And then he sent Abraham to sacrifice his son Do you think he was testing his faith to make sure he had his faith to go sacrifice his son. No.

Nope, not at all.

Well But two. You know, he took his son up the mountain and And he uh was getting ready to he pulled his knife out. And then uh The angel said, Do not harm that boy. I think he waited to make sure Abraham had the knife to make sure he was going to kill his son. And that was testing his faith.

Yeah, but what do you mean by testing? This is the question. I'm gonna see if he was gonna do it. Oh, so God had to learn? No, God had to, he couldn't tell if Abraham was going to do it unless he did it.

Oh, so God didn't know something, so he had to learn something by the real sign. God didn't know that Abraham would do it or not. That's for us today. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm focusing on something and you keep ignoring it.

You're saying God learned? Is that what you're saying? No, I'm saying God didn't. Hold on, hold on.

Okay, you're gone. Oh. Man. I'm trying to ask the questions to get through what's being said, and like many people, they don't know how to answer accurately and concisely. They have to explain everything with every answer.

Not interested in that. Look, folks. If God tested Abraham, it was not so that God could learn, because God knows all things. The testing of an individual is for our development, not God's increase of knowledge. The testing is for Abraham to gain through it.

And I can get through the theology of this mentioned and spoken about in James 2 when Abraham is brought up in this context. And that's all that's going on there. And so I wish that Patrick would be a little bit more patient. In fact, it reminds me of how many times I have encountered people who will do the exact same thing. I'll just ask a question: Are you saying that God was learning?

The answer should be: no, I don't think so. No, I'm not saying that.

Okay, no, it's not, well, yes, no, but you see, you have to understand, and it goes on and on all these long. That's not the question. And this happens so much, so much. Let's get to David from North Carolina. Dave, welcome.

You're on the air. Hi, man. It's been a while since I called because I've been so busy. It's a pleasure to talk to you.

Well, nice talking to you, man. The purpose of my call is about what the saints know in heaven about what's going on on earth. And scripturally, there's no support for that. They can see us. But I do believe their scriptural support for they have some knowledge of what's going on in earth.

Remember the martyrdom saints calling out to God about when their blood would be avenged? That tells you they're obviously concerned about what's going on on earth, and they know some things haven't happened yet. Right. Now, I've had this discussion, this very discussion, with countless Catholics and Eastern Orthodox. What they want to say.

Is that they have this knowledge because they can see it or they can hear prayers, which is false.

So if we have somebody who is martyred Like, say, the religion of peace, Islam, and their wonderful adherents who imitate Muhammad go and behead a lot of people. uh then those people enter into to glory. They know the condition of what's going on on earth. They don't have to see it. They don't have to hear prayers.

They would certainly know what condition because they were there. And they could ask, how long before this is taken care of? And this is one of the explanations I give to the EO and the RC, to which they reject automatically because. They're they're church idolaters.

Okay.

I'm as safely removed from Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic as I can be. I totally agree with you about the faith. I wasn't suggesting that they could see, but a lot of folks tend to think that people are so blissfully happy in heaven, the saints are, that they're totally ignorant of what's going on on earth or what might be going on. And I think they have some knowledge based on that scripture, was what I was saying. Yeah, I agree with you.

Totally agree. I thought you conveyed that well. I guess I didn't convey my part well. Which happens. But you are dead on right, and I totally agree with you, and good stuff.

And also, I think you. Uh let's see. I'm looking at uh Because they'll go to different verses, Roman, excuse me, Revelation 8:3 and Revelation 5:8. And they'll talk about that. There's other verses that talk about this in Revelation.

This is where they go to. for this. They wanna they wanna say it's okay to pray to people in heaven. One couple more things. I'll be real quick about it.

The scripture also says there's more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than 99 righteous people.

Well, how do the saints in heaven know that sinners repented unless they have some knowledge of what's going on? That's the second backup is what I was praying. I think that might be the angels that it says specifically. I'm going to look that up. It might be.

Let me see if I can find the verse and just search for it. Luke 15:7. Let's see if I'm right. I tell you in that way there will be more joy in heaven. Oh, okay, it doesn't say just angels, so my bad.

Um And it does say in Luke 15:10, though, likewise I say there is more joy in the presence of the angels of God, sinner who repents.

So we can't say that it only is angels because one of them says. Doesn't restrict it, so we know there's angels and possibly more.

Okay, so this is a logical analysis of it. In light of that, Could you ask your question again? Because I sidetracked myself and got distracted. Basically, the purpose of my question is: I got married after my parents passed, and I would like them to know I'm happily married. I know they can't see what's going on, and I certainly know you pray to God and not to your loved ones.

Your faith is put in God and not something else. I totally agree with that. But I was thinking that angels in heaven have access to both heaven and earth, obviously, to carry out God's will. Is it not possible that my parents might ask an angel, how is he doing, or did he get married? Is that totally off the wall?

When you say possible, we're talking about logistics. Is it logically possible? I would say it's logically possible. But is it true? I don't know.

So my wife passed away about eight months ago. and periodically what I'll say is, Lord, I don't know how it works. But if it's okay, could you tell her Hi Till her I miss her. And I think that's fair, and I think you could do the same thing. Say, Lord, you don't know how it works, but could you convey to mom and dad up there that I'm okay and things are okay?

And what you're doing is you're submitting. to the mediatorship of Christ. And you're not seeking the dead.

Okay.

Are you comfortable with the notion that it's scripturally sound that the saints who passed in heaven, the saints in heaven, although they can't see, they obviously have some knowledge to some extent? Is that safe to say? Absolutely, some knowledge of some extent. It's possible that they brought knowledge with them. That would be knowledge to some extent.

It's possible that they're being conveyed information about what's happening here. It's possible. And when I say that, The first one seems to be more critical or more backupable because someone who dies takes their memories of who they are with them when they go to heaven. They will have knowledge by that definition. Can they gain more knowledge through some other means in heaven?

I don't see anything in the Bible that says they can't. I don't see anything in the Bible that says they do.

So, what I'll say is. that l logistically, logically speaking, it is certainly possible that the Lord could convey information to them or there's some way of knowledge that they have, maybe by as your suggestion, by the angelic realm. that c could be c convey stuff or the presence of the Lord.

So I just don't know. And so it's possible, I would assume. Would you dismiss this teaching? I know you've heard other some pastors espouse it that God keeps the saints in heaven blissfully ignorant about what's going on earth, or otherwise they'd be very upset about the condition in the world then. Do you think That was within God's nature to do that.

That's read from the book of Second Colostomy.

Okay.

Uh That's a joke. I like that.

Okay.

Yeah, it doesn't say that in Scripture. And so we don't know what state they are in. Blissfully ignorant doesn't fit Revelation, which says when they're saying, How long is it going to take before you avenge what happened? That's not blissful.

Okay, I appreciate your insight. It was very enlightening. And thank you for taking my call and taking. I know I took a little bit of time. I appreciate it.

That's all right. It's all good, man. It's all good. No problem, brother.

Okay.

I'll be checking back in with you. Take care, Matt.

Okay, you too. Yeah.

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